PS3: What was the point of starting Clois?

[eas]

*Clark looks at Lois across the desk from him. Lois is busy*
Clark: Look Lois...
*Lois circles something with her pen*
Clark: I miss us...
*Lois still doesn't seem to be listening*
Clark: Look I just wish we could talk... I know things didn't exactly go as either of us planned and everything was so unexpected but... Lois could you just listen to me!
Lois *As she's typing*: I'm listening, whine whine, something, Lana... whine, whine...

:rotfl::rotfl:

Awesome.

Unfortunately, I see it going down more like how Clanafan said it would (or someone). Watch -- not only will Lois be the epitome of understanding, she'll also give a speech about how wonderful Lana is and Lois is fully aware that she could never compare to someone that perfect. :rolleyes: She'll probably give this speech to Chloe, who will nod her head sagely and agree (or not... it depends which personality they give Chloe that day - she has many).

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Hope this is the place to put this....
_______________________________

Dear Smallville producers,

Thank you ever so much for ruining 70 years of history by defiling one of the bastions in Superman history, the DP rooftop.

[...]

Power made no sense and I could label it the worst episode ever but I heard you hatched another one even worse yet to air.

So to return the favor, this new baby of yours will go unsupported by fans you don't seem to give a damn about. This fan of Smallville's will reverse the engine and apologize to all and any person she misled into putting faith into you again.

Thanking you again, for nothing but disheartening trust abuse.

Yowza.... awesome post.

A very warm welcome to K-site!!! :)

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You make a good point. Clana in Smallville and Clois in Metropolis. My problem with the writers is they put Clark in Metropolis. An earlier post said something to the effect that they needed something for Clark to do with KK leaving. I wish they could have come up with something better than messing both Clana and Clois ships. Say for example, Clark finishing up with college, doing his training with Jor El. One episode he told Lois he"s going away up north (for training) then the next epi his at the farm milking cows (not quite, but you get the point).

Part of the problem they were too focused on the women. The show was supposed to be about Superman's past and how he became Superman, not the story of Superman's past women. All messed up for everyone. It's too bad because there was something to offer in every ship. Even I could have appreciated a Clana in Smallville ship. I liked the Clana idea when I first saw it years ago, (except for Clark spying on her with a telescope).

I tried to stick with the show. but the writing and place where the story ended up was too redundant and goofy for me. I tuned out, and only came back because of the strong Clois tease. Then I got more of the the part of Clana that did not work for me. I agree with those who think they had no business bringing Lois into this series (at least not way back in Season 4). I feel duped. I feel all the ships got duped.

I don't think that the folks who are Clana shippers are losing out or have been duped, in any way, to be honest. This is the best ending that Clana could get, short of them flying off into the sunset together. Chances are that if they pay KK enough, Clana fans will get THAT ending, too.

At the end of the day, the message is loud and clear: No matter what happens in the future, Clark Kent loves Lana Lang more than anyone else in the world. Perhaps even more than the world and more than being Superman. No woman will ever come close to the place that Lana has in his heart.

I just cannot understand why a Clana fan would be unhappy with this. This is what the story has been telling us (according to one who ships Clana) from Day One, so this should be the ending that was always expected.

I, as a non-Clana fan, always argued against that. I thought the story was shaping to show why they weren't good together and why Lana Lang would not be the woman for Superman. I thought that when they had her lie, cheat, steal, embezzle, kidnap, torture, attempt murder, and - in general - have a lack of ethics that would make Lex Luthor proud (and it did) that they were trying to set her up as the woman that Superman wanted to love and to save, but - in the end - her darkness and thirst for revenge & her insanity made it impossible for Clark to love her and see her as a soulmate.

Apparently, I was wrong. In a show that has two groups of people: Villians and Heroes, it is clear that Lana Lang is their definition of a Hero. So, while she may be the female version of Lex Luthor (who is a Villian) she gets a free pass on all of her bad deeds and her horrible decisions are "justified".

As far as the execution of S8 is concerned.... they could have gone down THIS EXACT same path and kept Lois out of it. This storyline is clearly a wrap-up of S7. So, it should have aired closer to S7. Not only did Lois's arc suffer from them stuffing this "conclusion" in the middle of S8, but Chloe/Davis/Jimmy also suffered. Where is Davis? Is he stalking Chloe still? He's just going to pop up in "Turbulence" and we're expected to remember who he is?

They should have aired this 4 episode arc earlier in the season and saved episodes like "Identity", "Prey", "Instinct", and "Committed" for the second half after Lana was gone for good. They shouldn't have made Lois fall so hard for Clark if he was still going to be so hung up on Lana. They shouldn't have made Clark realize that Lois was falling for him -- no "almost kiss" and no "going undercover as an engaged couple".

I don't think that Lois fans would be calling foul right now if they had flipped the two arcs around in order. If Lana decided to become power-mad and was crazy pants enough to steal Lex's power suit and Clark was OK with it, then we'd probably still think that Clark was written poorly. But at least LOIS LANE wouldn't look like a fool & we'd feel sorry for her for falling for him in the 2nd half, but we wouldn't blame her, because she'd be so clueless about it. And we wouldn't think that Clark was doing anything wrong, because it's not HIS fault that Lois is falling for him -- he's still hung up on Lana & he's too clueless to know that Lois has feelings for him.

There... they've played with the concept of Clois while still keeping them apart. And NO ONE looks like a fool and no one has been duped or played.

I would say that Clana fans would still be happier than Clois fans, but - at least - Clois fans would have the HOPE that Clark... once faced with Lois's feelings and the possibilities that exist there.... would be able to realize that LOIS the one he's been looking for all along.

However, it's impossible to believe that NOW. Because Lois is in love with him. And Clark KNOWS that Lois has feelings for him. And Clark has seen that Lana is crazy-pants. However, he willingly walked away from the possibilities that could exist with a woman who is NOT crazy & is kissing the insane woman on the DP roof.

I'll never get over it. I really won't.

[Superman&Clana]

What was the point in starting Clois?
None,0, zero. This is show about Clark Kent becomming superman and his first love Lana Lang. If you know what i want to say .

[myankskent]

I don't think that Lois fans would be calling foul right now if they had flipped the two arcs around in order.


Providing that Clana got the proper closure. If Clana breaking up is something that they are forced into, then Lois still looks like Clark's second choice, along with any other girl that Clark might end up with. I think that TPTB just went the extra mile to really destroy Clois by starting it up in the beginning of season 8.

The more that I think about it, the more that I come to the same conclusion. TPTB don't really care about Clois. It's not their priority, it's their fall back plan and it's very hard for the viewer, whoever they might be a fan of, to take a relationship seriously when they know that TPTB care more about another relationship. Part of being a good writer, IMO, is to give the audience a sense that you really like the story that you are writing and I don't get that sense when it comes to Clois.

[borednow]

:rotfl::rotfl:

Awesome.

Unfortunately, I see it going down more like how Clanafan said it would (or someone). Watch -- not only will Lois be the epitome of understanding, she'll also give a speech about how wonderful Lana is and Lois is fully aware that she could never compare to someone that perfect. :rolleyes: She'll probably give this speech to Chloe, who will nod her head sagely and agree (or not... it depends which personality they give Chloe that day - she has many).

Please don't ruin my hope!

The only way I want Lois to say she's sorry:

Lois: "Sorry things didn't work out with Lana-"
Clark: "Thanks tha-"
Lois: "Must have been quiet a shock after how it worked out last time, and the time before that, and the time before that..."
Clark: "Lois..."
Lois: "I mean who could have possibly seen it coming?"

[One-Winged-Angel]

I just don't get it... what was the point of starting up the Clark and Lois relationship if THIS is what you were going to do with Lana's arc?


There is no point, it's like a conundrum or oddity. The writers are on drugs and they know smallville is going to heck, so they though they might have some fun before ending it.

[zHeN_zHeN]

*Clark looks at Lois across the desk from him. Lois is busy*
Clark: Look Lois...
*Lois circles something with her pen*
Clark: I miss us...
*Lois still doesn't seem to be listening*
Clark: Look I just wish we could talk... I know things didn't exactly go as either of us planned and everything was so unexpected but... Lois could you just listen to me!
Lois *As she's typing*: I'm listening, whine whine, something, Lana... whine, whine...
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[individuall]

Please don't ruin my hope!

The only way I want Lois to say she's sorry:

Lois: "Sorry things didn't work out with Lana-"
Clark: "Thanks tha-"
Lois: "Must have been quiet a shock after how it worked out last time, and the time before that, and the time before that..."
Clark: "Lois..."
Lois: "I mean who could have possibly seen it coming?"
:rotfl:

Once again...YES!:D

[SGuthrie27]

LOL, Lois should totally say that to Clark with as many break-ups as Clark & Lana have had. Frankly, though, I'm still not too upset. We know Lana will be gone after Requiem (this Thursday), and then I imagine they'll slowly lead back towards some great Clois moments. The departure of the Lana character (for Clark) was so abrupt and gave him no chance to get some closure, so I think it makes sense that he would at least attempt to figure out if they still have a chance together. After next week, I'm sure it'll be as obvious to him as it is to the viewers that the Clana ship has sailed and Clois is on the horizon.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Sunny8]

Clark Kent (yeah I feel compelled to name him to avoid confusion on who becomes Superman in the end or at least should be the protagonist...).

:rotfl:
I glad you said who Clark becomes because maybe they really do not know. They probably thought it was Oliver.

Anyway, this is a very good letter.

[zHeN_zHeN]

The only way I want Lois to say she's sorry:

Lois: "Sorry things didn't work out with Lana-"
Clark: "Thanks tha-"
Lois: "Must have been quiet a shock after how it worked out last time, and the time before that, and the time before that..."
Clark: "Lois..."
Lois: "I mean who could have possibly seen it coming?"
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Borednow, you crack me up! :D

[borednow]

:rotfl:

Once again...YES!:D


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Borednow, you crack me up! :D

Thanks both, it's my why of dealing with grief...

[Vergon6]

Please don't ruin my hope!

The only way I want Lois to say she's sorry:

Lois: "Sorry things didn't work out with Lana-"
Clark: "Thanks tha-"
Lois: "Must have been quiet a shock after how it worked out last time, and the time before that, and the time before that..."
Clark: "Lois..."
Lois: "I mean who could have possibly seen it coming?"
:rotfl: Too funny. Clark, will you ever learn? Even Lana tried to hint at it, to walk away despite her feelings, but you just can't let go. Why Clark? Why? haha.

Is that Winifred Burkle I see in your avatar?

[borednow]

Yes yes it is!
Winifred Burkle is my soul sister!

[Superboy2]

I agree. I like that Lana did that to become stronger, but I doubt her powers will stay. TPTB ruined the DP scene as well.

[Vergon6]

Yes yes it is!
Winifred Burkle is my soul sister!
Hehe. I miss Angel.

[borednow]

Hehe. I miss Angel.

Me too... but I've drowned that missing in the making of icons... many many icons...:lol:

[Vergon6]

Me too... but I've drowned that missing in the making of icons... many many icons...:lol:
:lol: I only made the one. Anyways, back to the topic at hand. I guess we will never know the answer to this question. I seriously think that PS3 will avoid answering the question, at least directly or to our satisfaction.

[SuperheroFan87]

Wow.......okay this is so weird.........I'm paging through my comics, like I always do, and I stumble across this dude called........uh............Superman.......or something like that..........and he is brave, strong, decisive, loyal, pure of heart, and his morality is unmatched and he is incredibly loving and caring towards his beautiful wife..........her name is Lois or something along those lines..........I don't know the story...........

So.........................uh..............this show called "Lanaville" why do they have a guy with the exact same name as this "Superman" dude? The Clark on Lanaville is nothing like this Superman...............all the Clark Kent on Lanaville does is mope and incessantly pine after Lana Lang (only the most popular superhero on, literally, the entire FREAKIN' planet). It takes away from the appeal of this awesome "Superman" guy, who I literally discovered JUST today!!!!!

Okay........sarcasm over, now that I have that off my chest........let me spew some venomous words towards PS3:

Just because AlMiles worshipped Lana Lang like the pervs they are, does not mean you have to join in their sick little fetish cult............but why should you listen to me? I have only been a loyal Superman fan for years and could probably RUN CIRCLES around soap opera writers like yourselves who are apparently in the business of taking respected and time-honored American legends, like Superman, and debasing them. You guys are probably getting a big laugh out of this and I'd bet dollars to donuts you don't give a flying crap about my opinion or the opinions of other fans.......but I don't care. Far as I'm concerned, if you guys write another superhero show with or without AlMiles, I WILL NOT tune in........I will simply stick with the comics, a magical realm where people actually CARE about time-honored legends. Or I'll pop in one of the big Hollywood adaptations of said legends..........even Hollywood, with creative license, has more respect for Superman than you guys do. Heck, compared to this Lanaville show you got going, Superman IV is practically on the level of Shakespeare............oh my God........I just remembered........I actually have this Shakespearean masterpiece on a Special Edition DVD...........guess what I'll be watching Thursday if you continue to screw up? Just leave writing shows like this to the professionals, like say, ACTUAL comic book writers........you guys need to go write 90210 or Melrose Place. You can take Lana Lang and Clana and shove--(transmission aborted).

[akaLane]

I would say that Clana fans would still be happier than Clois fans, but - at least - Clois fans would have the HOPE that Clark... once faced with Lois's feelings and the possibilities that exist there.... would be able to realize that LOIS the one he's been looking for all along.

However, it's impossible to believe that NOW. Because Lois is in love with him. And Clark KNOWS that Lois has feelings for him. And Clark has seen that Lana is crazy-pants. However, he willingly walked away from the possibilities that could exist with a woman who is NOT crazy & is kissing the insane woman on the DP roof.

I'll never get over it. I really won't.

I could not agree more with this.

[Larel]

Wow.......okay this is so weird.........I'm paging through my comics, like I always do, and I stumble across this dude called........uh............Superman.......or something like that..........and he is brave, strong, decisive, loyal, pure of heart, and his morality is unmatched and he is incredibly loving and caring towards his beautiful wife..........her name is Lois or something along those lines..........I don't know the story...........

So.........................uh..............this show called "Lanaville" why do they have a guy with the exact same name as this "Superman" dude? The Clark on Lanaville is nothing like this Superman...............all the Clark Kent on Lanaville does is mope and incessantly pine after Lana Lang (only the most popular superhero on, literally, the entire FREAKIN' planet). It takes away from the appeal of this awesome "Superman" guy, who I literally discovered JUST today!!!!!

Okay........sarcasm over, now that I have that off my chest........let me spew some venomous words towards PS3:

Just because AlMiles worshipped Lana Lang like the pervs they are, does not mean you have to join in their sick little fetish cult............but why should you listen to me? I have only been a loyal Superman fan for years and could probably RUN CIRCLES around soap opera writers like yourselves who are apparently in the business of taking respected and time-honored American legends, like Superman, and debasing them. You guys are probably getting a big laugh out of this and I'd bet dollars to donuts you don't give a flying crap about my opinion or the opinions of other fans.......but I don't care. Far as I'm concerned, if you guys write another superhero show with or without AlMiles, I WILL NOT tune in........I will simply stick with the comics, a magical realm where people actually CARE about time-honored legends. Or I'll pop in one of the big Hollywood adaptations of said legends..........even Hollywood, with creative license, has more respect for Superman than you guys do. Heck, compared to this Lanaville show you got going, Superman IV is practically on the level of Shakespeare............oh my God........I just remembered........I actually have this Shakespearean masterpiece on a Special Edition DVD...........guess what I'll be watching Thursday if you continue to screw up? Just leave writing shows like this to the professionals, like say, ACTUAL comic book writers........you guys need to go write 90210 or Melrose Place. You can take Lana Lang and Clana and shove--(transmission aborted).



Bravo!!:rotfl:

So true, within 1 mere hour they took the Superman legend & lore & crapped all over it!
Lana turned into the original Superwoman? WTF & to top it all off Clana on the roof of the DP in a romantic embrace & kiss, I felt like I was about to hear a voiceover say ......."you have now entered The Twilight Zone!":\

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Providing that Clana got the proper closure. If Clana breaking up is something that they are forced into, then Lois still looks like Clark's second choice, along with any other girl that Clark might end up with. I think that TPTB just went the extra mile to really destroy Clois by starting it up in the beginning of season 8.

The more that I think about it, the more that I come to the same conclusion. TPTB don't really care about Clois. It's not their priority, it's their fall back plan and it's very hard for the viewer, whoever they might be a fan of, to take a relationship seriously when they know that TPTB care more about another relationship. Part of being a good writer, IMO, is to give the audience a sense that you really like the story that you are writing and I don't get that sense when it comes to Clois.



That sums up the mess right there & that is what I fear will happen!:rolleyes:

[Alania]

Wow.......okay this is so weird.........I'm paging through my comics, like I always do, and I stumble across this dude called........uh............Superman.......or something like that..........and he is brave, strong, decisive, loyal, pure of heart, and his morality is unmatched and he is incredibly loving and caring towards his beautiful wife..........her name is Lois or something along those lines..........I don't know the story...........

So.........................uh..............this show called "Lanaville" why do they have a guy with the exact same name as this "Superman" dude? The Clark on Lanaville is nothing like this Superman...............all the Clark Kent on Lanaville does is mope and incessantly pine after Lana Lang (only the most popular superhero on, literally, the entire FREAKIN' planet). It takes away from the appeal of this awesome "Superman" guy, who I literally discovered JUST today!!!!!

Okay........sarcasm over, now that I have that off my chest........let me spew some venomous words towards PS3:

Just because AlMiles worshipped Lana Lang like the pervs they are, does not mean you have to join in their sick little fetish cult............but why should you listen to me? I have only been a loyal Superman fan for years and could probably RUN CIRCLES around soap opera writers like yourselves who are apparently in the business of taking respected and time-honored American legends, like Superman, and debasing them. You guys are probably getting a big laugh out of this and I'd bet dollars to donuts you don't give a flying crap about my opinion or the opinions of other fans.......but I don't care. Far as I'm concerned, if you guys write another superhero show with or without AlMiles, I WILL NOT tune in........I will simply stick with the comics, a magical realm where people actually CARE about time-honored legends. Or I'll pop in one of the big Hollywood adaptations of said legends..........even Hollywood, with creative license, has more respect for Superman than you guys do. Heck, compared to this Lanaville show you got going, Superman IV is practically on the level of Shakespeare............oh my God........I just remembered........I actually have this Shakespearean masterpiece on a Special Edition DVD...........guess what I'll be watching Thursday if you continue to screw up? Just leave writing shows like this to the professionals, like say, ACTUAL comic book writers........you guys need to go write 90210 or Melrose Place. You can take Lana Lang and Clana and shove--(transmission aborted).

God, Joe, you're a hoot! Dont' forget the tennis ball as way of moping! :rolleyes: I'll get old, a grandma but i'll never forgive that one from Clark Kent!!!!!!!!! It's all just one big insanity clana love fest that doesn't seem to have a fricking end! I thought she was coming back for closure, but instead, we're getting an angel of vengeance in an invincible suit who, in the mean time, is trying to reset Clana!!:mad: I am definitely paying all my sins now!!!!!!!

[SuperheroFan87]

Bravo!!:rotfl:

So true, within 1 mere hour they took the Superman legend & lore & crapped all over it!
Lana turned into the original Superwoman? WTF & to top it all off Clana on the roof of the DP in a romantic embrace & kiss, I felt like I was about to hear a voiceover say ......."you have now entered The Twilight Zone!":\

DO NOT bring up that blasphemous DP scene.............I will forever block that from my mind..........the trauma nearly had a strange effect on my sanity (not in a good way either:p).

Seriously though, in the magical realm of DC Comics (where superheroes are not whiney, mopey, wimps who haven't lost.........ahem.........an important piece of........equipment at the hands of Lana Lang) there exists the multiverse.......a complex, contradictory, and VERY NECESSARY system of 52 alternate universes where stories that either contradict or don't jive with the stories of mainstream canon and continuity are placed...........I think its time DC Comics names Smallville as the 53rd Earth.............a TWILIGHT ZONE type of AU.....:) Of course the 52 remaining earths will have ZERO interaction with this new Earth 53.........because Lana is just a waste of valuable time.:)

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God, Joe, you're a hoot! Dont' forget the tennis ball as way of moping! :rolleyes: I'll get old, a grandma but i'll never forgive that one from Clark Kent!!!!!!!!! It's all just one big insanity clana love fest that doesn't seem to have a fricking end! I thought she was coming back for closure, but instead, we're getting an angel of vengeance in an invincible suit who, in the mean time, is trying to reset Clana!!:mad: I am definitely paying all my sins now!!!!!!!

:lol: Thanks Alania! To help you in your Clois rehab, look at my above post about how Smallville should be an AU in the DC Multiverse..........TRANSLATION: Lanaville has nothing to with mainstream Superman canon.

Sadly I agree with you, LANAville is a cruel, torturous weapon expertly employed by The Man Upstairs to punish our sins!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[eas]

Wow.......okay this is so weird.........I'm paging through my comics, like I always do, and I stumble across this dude called........uh............Superman.......or something like that..........and he is brave, strong, decisive, loyal, pure of heart, and his morality is unmatched and he is incredibly loving and caring towards his beautiful wife..........her name is Lois or something along those lines..........I don't know the story...........

So.........................uh..............this show called "Lanaville" why do they have a guy with the exact same name as this "Superman" dude? The Clark on Lanaville is nothing like this Superman...............all the Clark Kent on Lanaville does is mope and incessantly pine after Lana Lang (only the most popular superhero on, literally, the entire FREAKIN' planet). It takes away from the appeal of this awesome "Superman" guy, who I literally discovered JUST today!!!!!

Okay........sarcasm over, now

[...]

You can take Lana Lang and Clana and shove--(transmission aborted).

:rotfl:

What are these mythical PAGES you speak of?? "Comics"? What is THAT? Are they those things on paper.... with funny colored drawings... text in balloons?

Why on EARTH would "Smallville" try to live up to THAT? After all, Kristin Kreuk isn't in those pages, is she? How on earth can they use THAT story, then?

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Please don't ruin my hope!

The only way I want Lois to say she's sorry:

Lois: "Sorry things didn't work out with Lana-"
Clark: "Thanks tha-"
Lois: "Must have been quiet a shock after how it worked out last time, and the time before that, and the time before that..."
Clark: "Lois..."
Lois: "I mean who could have possibly seen it coming?"

:rotfl:

Awesome. I hope it does go down that way.

[skylar]

PS3 will come though and make up for all of this mess they made. Hopefully starting with Clark .

[myankskent]

PS3 will come though and make up for all of this mess they made. Hopefully starting with Clark .


Yeah, they'll just start lightswitching the hell out of every character and relationship on this show.

[eas]

Yeah, they'll just start lightswitching the hell out of every character and relationship on this show.

Pretty much.

I'm not one of those people who believes in the "out of sight, out of mind" concept when it comes to Lana. Her dark shadow will cast a pall over all the rest of the season for me.... Clois just won't make sense.

And I can't be onboard with it if it doesn't make sense.

[skylar]

Pretty much.

I'm not one of those people who believes in the "out of sight, out of mind" concept when it comes to Lana. Her dark shadow will cast a pall over all the rest of the season for me.... Clois just won't make sense.

And I can't be onboard with it if it doesn't make sense.

It is a shame too

[SuperheroFan87]

:rotfl:

What are these mythical PAGES you speak of?? "Comics"? What is THAT? Are they those things on paper.... with funny colored drawings... text in balloons?

Why on EARTH would "Smallville" try to live up to THAT? After all, Kristin Kreuk isn't in those pages, is she? How on earth can they use THAT story, then?
:lol:
Apparently "comics" are randomly assorted drawings of people in weird outfits, they are for children only, and looked at as fairy tales.........weird stuff.......apparently Lanaville has to live up to these "children's fables" because, for reasons I simply can't fathom, these tales are called "source material". I've looked long and hard and so far.....no Kristin Kreuk anywhere on these pages...........just a dude with a big red 'S' on his chest, beating up scary bad guys and saving people.........can you tell me why this Lois Lane chick keeps popping up? She seems far more significant and important than Lana Lang!:)

[eas]

:lol:
Apparently "comics" are randomly assorted drawings of people in weird outfits, they are for children only, and looked at as fairy tales.........weird stuff.......apparently Lanaville has to live up to these "children's fables" because, for reasons I simply can't fathom, these tales are called "source material". I've looked long and hard and so far.....no Kristin Kreuk anywhere on these pages...........just a dude with a big red 'S' on his chest, beating up scary bad guys and saving people.........can you tell me why this Lois Lane chick keeps popping up? She seems far more significant and important than Lana Lang!:)

Hhhmm.... I don't know. Are you sure she isn't really Lana Lang? Does she have dark hair? Does this man with the "S" love her a lot? Is he nice to her and wants to be with her forever?

If so, maybe.... it's Lana? They must just misspell her name... you know, "Lane" and "Lana" are very similar.

[kg1507]

PS3 will come though and make up for all of this mess they made. Hopefully starting with Clark .

YES!!! Here's hoping...

[Kal-ed]

I see it going more like this:

Clark: Lois, about what almost happened at Chloe's wedding...

Lois: Yeah I haven't got any leads on the giant monster, but I've been working on it...

Clark: No I mean we-

Lois: Danced? Yeah you're a terrible dancer but I'll get over it, I have work to do.

Clark: Lois... I'd really like to talk about this!

Lois: *looking at her computer screen* Then I suggest you hire a psychiatrist, they are paid to listen to that type of crap... hey what do we have here.

Clark: I mean with you...

Lois *grabs her coat*: Uh-huh- *heads to the elevator*

Clark: Wait Lois! *elevator door closes in his face*

Its the only type of Clois Id like to see from here on now. great scene btw, both in character.

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I think he likes Lois. I think there's an attraction, but at this point I don't think he's in love with her. Right now the feelings he has for Lois don't compare to what he feels for Lana and has felt for her all his life. Right now Clois hasn't had enough time to develop something deep and meaningful. I think that comes with being in an actual relationship. This is why I think the almost kiss was forgotten. I don't think he's a player or wishy-washy (we'll have this conversation again after Hex), but I think he has a lot of history with Lana and a deep love for her that nothing else can rival right now. I think if the writers pursue Lois in Season 9 (I hope they don't start it this year), and Lana comes back at the end of Season 9, Clark really will be torn and rightly so. By this time I think he will probably love both deeply.


Im not saying he loves Lois, or is falling for her, my only point was to a poster that was saying that we shouldnt complain cause Clois was always one sided and I disagree, sure its heavier on Lois´s part but Clark is not without guilt.


Now I cant speak for all but my complain is not that Clark should have thought about Lois and dumped Lana, cause its not only known but understandable he feels stronger for Lana and its also understandable he needs closure, my issue here is that if TPTB wont give Clana closure, so why bother with Clois, why bother if they always planned on having this Clana returns arc and with every intention of making it very clear, to all of us, that who ever comes after Lana, whether its Lois, Lori or Chloe, will be slopy seconds.

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Providing that Clana got the proper closure. If Clana breaking up is something that they are forced into, then Lois still looks like Clark's second choice, along with any other girl that Clark might end up with. I think that TPTB just went the extra mile to really destroy Clois by starting it up in the beginning of season 8.


not necesarily, not if the arcs had been the other way around. Ok so Clana break up cause they cant be together, Clark is desolated, he things he lost his true one, sudenly here comes Lois and shows him that Lana was not the one.

The problem is that in this order, Lois was already a romantic posibility for Clark and he chose Lana over her, sure a few months of pasive flirting cant compare to 7 years, how ever, Lois is suposed to be his soulmate, they are suposed to have a conection almost beyond comprehension, a natural draw to each other, I could understand Clark not even going there cause it simply wasnt a posibility, how ever with Lois´s feelings out there, he chose Lana but I agree with eas that if things had been done the other way around (Clana first then Clois) even if Clana didnt have proper closure, Clois could have made sense, if properly written, how ever, now Im going to suspence my belief a lot to buy into Clois, I mean Clois I can buy, Clois soulmates, for ever and ever, not so much.

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Unfortunately, I see it going down more like how Clanafan said it would (or someone). Watch -- not only will Lois be the epitome of understanding, she'll also give a speech about how wonderful Lana is and Lois is fully aware that she could never compare to someone that perfect. :rolleyes: She'll probably give this speech to Chloe, who will nod her head sagely and agree (or not... it depends which personality they give Chloe that day - she has many).

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I can see that happening, again, Ive been saying this all day, i wish just once, Lana´s failures would be discussed by characters in the show, just to know that they know what we´ve been clearly seeing.



I don't think that the folks who are Clana shippers are losing out or have been duped, in any way, to be honest. This is the best ending that Clana could get, short of them flying off into the sunset together. Chances are that if they pay KK enough, Clana fans will get THAT ending, too.

I disagree with everything, except what I highlighted. IMO Clana will be as tarnished as Clois, not only have we all seen how disfuntional they trully are but Clark will, quite quickly I might add, move on to Lois, so its not like his love for Lana is undying and eternal. They might want to fanwank an explanation for it but the fact is, Clark will move on pretty soon, too soon all things considered.

As for the part i highlighted, you are right if TPTB had KK for the rest of the series, the show would end on a Clana note.


At the end of the day, the message is loud and clear: No matter what happens in the future, Clark Kent loves Lana Lang more than anyone else in the world. Perhaps even more than the world and more than being Superman. No woman will ever come close to the place that Lana has in his heart.

Not enough to not be looking lovingly at Lois, enough for Chloe to notice, just a few weeks after his "true one" is gone.


I just cannot understand why a Clana fan would be unhappy with this. This is what the story has been telling us (according to one who ships Clana) from Day One, so this should be the ending that was always expected.
I wouldnt, just like Im a clois fan and dont like Clark almost kissing Lois one epi, dating Lana the next 4 and looking lovingly 3 epis after Lana is gone. If I were a Clana fan, i wouldnt be happy Clark moves on from whom is allegedly the love of his life in the span of 4 weeks more or less.


I don't think that Lois fans would be calling foul right now if they had flipped the two arcs around in order. If Lana decided to become power-mad and was crazy pants enough to steal Lex's power suit and Clark was OK with it, then we'd probably still think that Clark was written poorly. But at least LOIS LANE wouldn't look like a fool & we'd feel sorry for her for falling for him in the 2nd half, but we wouldn't blame her, because she'd be so clueless about it. And we wouldn't think that Clark was doing anything wrong, because it's not HIS fault that Lois is falling for him -- he's still hung up on Lana & he's too clueless to know that Lois has feelings for him.

There... they've played with the concept of Clois while still keeping them apart. And NO ONE looks like a fool and no one has been duped or played.

I agree with you, even if Clana had no real closure, as Im thinking it will be, Clois coming afterwards would make a lot more sense.

[supercatmom]

I think ps3 started Clois at the beginning of season 9 because KK was not availabe so they used Lois as Clark's love interest.

Think about it - hasn't Lois been the go to girl for a love interest since she first appeared on SV. First she kisssed Aquaman, then she had a romance with Oliver and then she kissed Grant. So why not have her Clark's love interest till we could get to the 5 arc Clana.

At first I thought that they were pushing Clois so that when Lana came back we could have another of the triangles they love so much. You know - Lana, Whitney, Clark, - Lana, Adam, Clark, - Lana, Jason, Clark - Lana, Lex, Clark. And now we could have Lana, Lois, Clark.

Maybe another triangle would have been preferable to the train wreck of the Clana arc.

TPTB fought so hard to get Lois Lane on SV and this is what they have used her for once they got her.

[Smallville Gone Bizarr]

I think ps3 started Clois at the beginning of season 9 because KK was not availabe so they used Lois as Clark's love interest.

Think about it - hasn't Lois been the go to girl for a love interest since she first appeared on SV. First she kisssed Aquaman, then she had a romance with Oliver and then she kissed Grant. So why not have her Clark's love interest till we could get to the 5 arc Clana.

At first I thought that they were pushing Clois so that when Lana came back we could have another of the triangles they love so much. You know - Lana, Whitney, Clark, - Lana, Adam, Clark, - Lana, Jason, Clark - Lana, Lex, Clark. And now we could have Lana, Lois, Clark.

Maybe another triangle would have been preferable to the train wreck of the Clana arc.

TPTB fought so hard to get Lois Lane on SV and this is what they have used her for once they got her.

Season 9?? Don't you mean Season 8?

[supercatmom]

Sorry, I'm meant season 8. It's l:00 AM in the morning.

[Sunny8]

People are so concerned about Lois becoming a "rebound" or "sloppy seconds", but she isn't. Clark chooses to be with her. Clark can still be with Lana even if it happens that Lana is kryptonite infested. He can wear a lead suit if he wants to be around her that badly or she can wear one, it really doesn't matter. The fact that in the 'Requiem' episode (if what we saw is true) they split up again. That shows me that Clark and Lana were not as determined to be together as everyone thought.

[Smallville Gone Bizarr]

I see it going more like this:

Clark: Lois, about what almost happened at Chloe's wedding...

Lois: Yeah I haven't got any leads on the giant monster, but I've been working on it...

Clark: No I mean we-

Lois: Danced? Yeah you're a terrible dancer but I'll get over it, I have work to do.

Clark: Lois... I'd really like to talk about this!

Lois: *looking at her computer screen* Then I suggest you hire a psychiatrist, they are paid to listen to that type of crap... hey what do we have here.

Clark: I mean with you...

Lois *grabs her coat*: Uh-huh- *heads to the elevator*

Clark: Wait Lois! *elevator door closes in his face*

Exactly, I bet that is going to happen.

[Sunny8]

Hi, supercatmom, look at your PM's:).

[myankskent]

The problem is that in this order, Lois was already a romantic posibility for Clark and he chose Lana over her, sure a few months of pasive flirting cant compare to 7 years, how ever, Lois is suposed to be his soulmate, they are suposed to have a conection almost beyond comprehension, a natural draw to each other


Well, if you put it that way, then shouldn't they have had this natural draw to each other a lot sooner? I don't think that feelings need to be specifically told to the other person to show this. It probably shouldn't have taken 5 years before we saw some evidence of it with Clois, IMO. That's why I feel that TPTB have taken Clana too far because they have had a natural draw to each other since the pilot episode and it hasn't seemed to get any weaker as time went on.

But overall, I agree with you. The order of everything was messed up and what can I say? TPTB made the choice to have things play out in this manner. It's all on them.

[supercatmom]

Hi Sunny8 - thanks for the pm - the cheerful note and song lyrics.

I have been a Superman fan/groupie for all my life, so I will continue to watch SV no matter wether Requiem is a horrendous episode or not.

But if the episode in truly bad, it will taint the rest of the season for me.