View Full Version : Who else was disappointed in Chloe?
kg1507
01-29-2009, 07:17 PM
Ok, Chloe gave Clark that great speech about the love triangle and how the third point always hurts the most. She told him not to hurt Lois. She stuck up for her cousin, and one episode later, what does she do when she finds out Clark and Lana kissed? NOTHING. I was so disappointed.
malcrew
01-29-2009, 07:22 PM
Why isn't she in star city with her dying husband? She should relieve Lois so she can be with Clark.
mayumi
01-29-2009, 07:24 PM
i want to know why the fact that she is not with her husband was never addressed in the episode? i mean she is strolling around and drinking coffee etc while lois sits next to her injured husband. what?
ErinN
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
Yeah, the whole Chloe being there makes no sense. She is letting Lois take care of her husband while she runs around helping Clark. Don't like it.
I was also annoyed that she didn't at least show some kind of disappointment in Clark for the backwards movement to Lana, even just a look on her face. Instead she was almost encouraging him where Lana is concerned.
malcrew
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
i want to know why the fact that she is not with her husband was never addressed in the episode? i mean she is strolling around and drinking coffee etc while lois sits next to her injured husband. what?
So True!
ManOfSteel87
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
I almost thought she was incouraging another Clana go-round the way she was talking.
kg1507
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
I almost thought she was incouraging another Clana go-round the way she was talking.
I know! Goodness Chloe, think of your family first!! :mad:
AndiGirl
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
I think the only reason she said those things was because she new the real reason why Lana left. We didnt know it yet, but later in the episode we find out Lana had made a visit to the Isis foundation before she made her big return to smallville.
So Clark sitting there ripping on her....I'm sure Chloe just felt the need to defend Lana a little bit. Cant blame her for that.
I just think she wants Clark to be happy. She still obviously doesnt think Clana is a good idea, but she cant make Clark be with Lois....can she?? And if she constantly gives him lectures he's going to stop talking to her i'm sure! :lol:
malcrew
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Yeah, the whole Chloe being there makes no sense. She is letting Lois take care of her husband while she runs around helping Clark. Don't like it.
I was also annoyed that she didn't at least show some kind of disappointment in Clark for the backwards movement to Lana, even just a look on her face. Instead she was almost encouraging him where Lana is concerned.
True That!
AndiGirl
01-29-2009, 07:28 PM
i want to know why the fact that she is not with her husband was never addressed in the episode? i mean she is strolling around and drinking coffee etc while lois sits next to her injured husband. what?
I honestly just think that was bad writing!!
Cant blame that on Chloe.....
myankskent
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
I have no idea what TPTB are doing with Chloe on this show anymore.
lillie_poo_pod
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
*snort* Everyone was in love with Chloe after she pimped out Lois. Now she's being hated again. Not surprised.
mayumi
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
I honestly just think that was bad writing!!
Cant blame that on Chloe.....
its terrible writing! i don't blame the actress though. i am disappointed with the writers of this episode.
Kid Collins
01-29-2009, 07:30 PM
Ok, Chloe gave Clark that great speech about the love triangle and how the third point always hurts the most. She told him not to hurt Lois. She stuck up for her cousin, and one episode later, what does she do when she finds out Clark and Lana kissed? NOTHING. I was so disappointed.
Chloe told Clark not to hurt Lois. That doesn't mean Chloe told him to go for it with her.
That means don't play games with Lois' heart.
Chloe didn't say anything about Clark not going after Lana. Obviously in this episode she encouraged Clark to do just that.
MetropolisGirl4SV
01-29-2009, 07:31 PM
I was disappointed in Chloe as well... She could of at least questioned Clark on the kiss and if it felt right? Standing up for her cousin at least mentioning her name would of made the scene better for me.Why the hell isn't Chloe in Star City nursing Jimmy back to health? Isn't it till death do us part...or is he dead or something? The mysteries of Smallville....:confused:
I'm sick of Chloe being the one to pimp the relationships. Who gives a sh!t. Give Chloe her storyline back. I was not disappointed in Chloe. She was looking out for her cousin last week; but once she realized Clark kissed Lana she knew he didn't have feelings for Lois. I'm just hoping the next couple of episodes she tells him to come clean. But of course they'll just forget about all the Clana kisses when Lois comes back.
Chloe is right when she "pimps" Clois and is wrong when she is looking out for her best friend's feelings?
The whole Chimmy thing should be explained; but if Jimmy is fine then Chloe should damn well be down here trying to help save the world instead of babysitting Jimmy.
Kalista
01-29-2009, 07:32 PM
*snort* Everyone was in love with Chloe after she pimped out Lois. Now she's being hated again. Not surprised.
I guess she's no longer awesomesauce.:lol: I have often read that what happens between Clark and EDlois doesn't involve Chloe. So, why should she be the Clois cheerleader?
LiLViLLiaN
01-29-2009, 07:34 PM
She had her moment, haha.
Kid Collins
01-29-2009, 07:34 PM
*snort* Everyone was in love with Chloe after she pimped out Lois. Now she's being hated again. Not surprised.
:rotfl:
morena
01-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Chloe told Clark not to hurt Lois. That doesn't mean Chloe told him to go for it with her.
That means don't play games with Lois' heart.
Chloe didn't say anything about Clark not going after Lana. Obviously in this episode she encouraged Clark to do just that.
well said
kg1507
01-29-2009, 07:34 PM
*snort* Everyone was in love with Chloe after she pimped out Lois. Now she's being hated again. Not surprised.
I don't hate Chloe. I just didn't like that scene with her and Clark.
this is my own opinion on things....
i dnt know why chloe isnt at the hospital with jimmy...tat one i did ask myself
but the whole lois lana clark thing this is my take..
yes chloe and lois are cousins...but clark is her best friend...nd she prolly knows him better than anyone...nd she knows that he still holds some kind of feelings for lana...so wat do u prefer....
tat chloe manipulates or convinces clark into being with lois and leaving lana(which we all know will happen sooner or later)
or let clark choose for himself....and them being happy together by their own choices not because chloe kinda pushed him into it.
nd also she already told clark not to mess with her emotions, choose once and for all...lana or no lana. wat else cn she do...put green K in front of him nd demand tat he go bang bang with her cuzin
kg1507
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
Chloe told Clark not to hurt Lois. That doesn't mean Chloe told him to go for it with her.
That means don't play games with Lois' heart.
Chloe didn't say anything about Clark not going after Lana. Obviously in this episode she encouraged Clark to do just that.
I did overlook that. I guess I'm just another mad Clois fan :\
SmallvilleMan
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
Why shouldn't she want help out her friend? And what is she suppose to do when she found Clana kissed? Throw a fit? Slap Clark with a meteor rock?
AndiGirl
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
I guess she's no longer awesomesauce.:lol:
:rotfl: Guess not.
I think people are being overly harsh. With all of the awesomly bad stuff in this episode, we're focusing on Chloe??
I understand the disappointment, but come on. What is chloe supposed to do?? Every time Clark mentions Lana....say "Did I MENTION....that I think Lois would be great for you?" :rotfl:
Her life purpose isnt to make sure Clois happens....thats Clark and Lois's job, last time I checked. :\
this is my own opinion on things....
i dnt know why chloe isnt at the hospital with jimmy...tat one i did ask myself
but the whole lois lana clark thing this is my take..
yes chloe and lois are cousins...but clark is her best friend...nd she prolly knows him better than anyone...nd she knows that he still holds some kind of feelings for lana...so wat do u prefer....
tat chloe manipulates or convinces clark into being with lois and leaving lana(which we all know will happen sooner or later)
or let clark choose for himself....and them being happy together by their own choices not because chloe kinda pushed him into it.
nd also she already told clark not to mess with her emotions, choose once and for all...lana or no lana. wat else cn she do...put green K in front of him nd demand tat he go bang bang with her cuzin
haha :lol: ITA
Bella882
01-29-2009, 07:38 PM
Yeah, the whole Chloe being there makes no sense. She is letting Lois take care of her husband while she runs around helping Clark. Don't like it.
Since apparently what Chloe mentioned last week concerning her cousin was based on events apparently that happen in offscreenville, I think it's safe to say Chloe has been visiting Jimmy during this period as well right? By the show's logic of course.
And didn't we already have a shot of Chloe getting ready to leave for the hospital to visit him at the end of Legion immediately after her chloiac ordeal and had just come back from visiting him in Bulletproof? The reality of the situation is simple, Erica and Aaron weren't contracted for these episodes, and Allison who is contracted to appear in every single episode of the season has to appear. Bottom line.
The only time we will be seeing Chloe visiting Jimmy, is either in the fan fiction world or another Chlimmy centric episode (perhaps in Turbulence you'll get your wish). People either complain because there is too much Chlimmy, therefore detracting from Clark centric storylines or damn her because she isn't off their screen visiting him (which is really the gist of the argument here)
Gotta love this board...:cool:
skylar
01-29-2009, 07:39 PM
I was disappointed in Chloe as well... She could of at least questioned Clark on the kiss and if it felt right? Standing up for her cousin at least mentioning her name would of made the scene better for me.Why the hell isn't Chloe in Star City nursing Jimmy back to health? Isn't it till death do us part...or is he dead or something? The mysteries of Smallville....:confused:
:lol::lol:
Poyntz
01-29-2009, 07:44 PM
Here we have Chloe.... switching her mind from last episode. Last episode we had her Pimping Lois. This episode she's pimping Lana??? talk about turn around!!! Do the writers every see what was done last episode?
I blame the writers again.
How can Clark freak out on Chloe for keeping Lana's Secret. She keeps his secret. And if you want to talk about honesty... I notice he still hasn't come clean and told her about the mind wipe situation...
Sigh.. oh well i'm not even got to say anymore. I'm very disappointed they better shape up.
mr lane
01-29-2009, 07:44 PM
I'll always have a special place in my heart for Chloe
I loved how she called Clark out last episode
and at first when she said what she did this episode i felt betrayed
but after rethinking it
it felt like to me she was telling Clark that he couldn't really blame everything on Lana
a big part of the blame goes to himself as well
lana wasn't holding him physically back from growing up it was himself holding him back
and if he was questioning his feelings then yes he needed to go talk to lana about it
Dustmite
01-29-2009, 07:48 PM
Last week Clana fans were disappointed in Chloe. This week Clois fans are.
Here's an idea for the writers. Remember what you had the character say last week and leave Chloe out of Clark's romantic entanglement unless it's a Clark, Chloe one on one.
So no, I'm not disappointed in Chloe.
AndiGirl
01-29-2009, 07:51 PM
I'll always have a special place in my heart for Chloe
I loved how she called Clark out last episode
and at first when she said what she did this episode i felt betrayed
but after rethinking it
it felt like to me she was telling Clark that he couldn't really blame everything on Lana
a big part of the blame goes to himself as well
lana wasn't holding him physically back from growing up it was himself holding him back
and if he was questioning his feelings then yes he needed to go talk to lana about it
Exactly :)
I think Cloisers are just heartbroken right now (with good reason) and we were looking for Chloe to be in our corner again. But the truth of the matter is....Clark is just as much to blame as Lana for their rollercoaster relationship. Chloe was just reminding him that there's always two sides to a story.
Deana
01-29-2009, 07:52 PM
It's not really surprising. Chloe mostly does what keeps her in Clark's good graces. He made his decision . . . she supported it. She is more loyal to him then to herself. Sometimes she takes a stand but most she is Clark's lapdog.
It is really weird that she is in Smallville all radiating happiness and her husband is in the hospital because he tried to stand between her and a monster, but I clock that as the same bad writing such as when all those people who were hurt in the Kent barn in Bride was never mentioned again. They got sent to the Bermuda Triangle which may just be located in Clark's brain. :lol:
Edit: Yes, I ended up watching this(for those who saw my post in the trailer thread), but only because my brother is home. We haven't watched the show together in months, he wanted to watch it so I joined him.
mr lane
01-29-2009, 07:58 PM
Exactly :)
I think Cloisers are just heartbroken right now (with good reason) and we were looking for Chloe to be in our corner again. But the truth of the matter is....Clark is just as much to blame as Lana for their rollercoaster relationship. Chloe was just reminding him that there's always two sides to a story.
Exactly and I can't really blame Chloe
Lois is her cousin so shes going to stick up for her
but Lana was/is her best friend so she isnt going to Bash her either although i wish she would...lol
all she can do is play neutral and lay out the cards for clark
its up to him what hand he plays
It's not really surprising. Chloe mostly does what keeps her in Clark's good graces. He made his decision . . . she supported it. She is more loyal to him then to herself. Sometimes she takes a stand but most she is Clark's lapdog.
It is really weird that she is in Smallville all radiating happiness and her husband is in the hospital because he tried to stand between her and a monster, but I clock that as the same bad writing such as when all those people who were hurt in the Kent barn in Bride was never mentioned again. They got sent to the Bermuda Triangle which may just be located in Clark's brain. :lol:
Edit: Yes, I ended up watching this(for those who saw my post in the trailer thread), but only because my brother is home. We haven't watched the show together in months, he wanted to watch it so I joined him.
Chloe is no ones lapdog. She wants her best friend to be happy. If Lana makes him happy, there ya go. Just because it isn't something some people want to see, doesn't mean Chloe is the one to blame.
Storm45
01-29-2009, 09:12 PM
*snort* Everyone was in love with Chloe after she pimped out Lois. Now she's being hated again. Not surprised.
Everything is back to normal.
If it was okay for Lois to support his feelings for Lana despite her cousin's feelings (Prom, season 4) it should be okay for Chloe to do so. Chloe can't insist for Clark to put his feelings for Lana on hold for Lois right? They each told Clark to be careful but they won't spend their time reglementing his love life.
unfocused
01-29-2009, 09:32 PM
I am very disappointed in Chloe.
We should have Lois for these episodes instead of Chloe. Lois shouldn't be doing Chloe's job for her, staying with Jimmy.
borednow
01-29-2009, 09:46 PM
Ok, Chloe gave Clark that great speech about the love triangle and how the third point always hurts the most. She told him not to hurt Lois. She stuck up for her cousin, and one episode later, what does she do when she finds out Clark and Lana kissed? NOTHING. I was so disappointed.
word...
Leave Chloe alone! It's not her fault that Clark is drooling over Lana and has forgotten who the hell is Lois. You cannot blame her for his feelings towards Lana. There is no reason to be disappointed by Chloe, it is Clark who people should be disappointed at. WHy? Because he is a poor excuse for a hero right now...he's lame!
Kalista
01-29-2009, 10:20 PM
Chloe can't force Clark to do anything. He acted on his lingering feelings for Lana. If he were interested in EDlois then nothing would have stopped him from pursuing her. What exactly should Chloe have done? Pushed him toward EDlois? Why would anyone want the "legendery" romance to start that way?
ginnyfan
01-29-2009, 10:23 PM
I don't think Chloe is a Clois shipper. She was just cautioning Clark that he should tread delicately in his pursuit of Lana or he could hurt Lois. She was worried about Lois getting hurt. She wasn't telling him not to follow his heart, wherever it leads him. As others have said, Chloe wants Clark to be happy. *sigh*
paolinki25
01-29-2009, 10:24 PM
Why isn't she in star city with her dying husband? She should relieve Lois so she can be with Clark.
:lol: I know. The whole time, my boyfriend kept telling me "Why isn't she with her pretty sick husband?"
MetropolisGirl4SV
01-29-2009, 10:36 PM
First of all because some people are disappointed in Chloe doesn't mean we automatically hate her all of a sudden. I personally love Chloe.
As a loving cousin to Lois and also being sucked into a Clana triangle herself she had ever right to voice out her opinion to Clark not to hurt her cousin in Bulletproof.
At the same time if she's so concerned about Clark her BFF should she not inquire if these feeling are real are not?
She knows about Clark and Lana's yo-yo relationship and how it made him a wreck.
And she also is Lana's friend and I'm sure she doesn't want Lana getting hurt either.
I'm more dissapointed in Clark,but the differance is its usually expected from him. and actually I feel bad for Chloe juggling everyones love life,while her hubby is in ICU.:\
clana4everfan2
01-29-2009, 10:37 PM
First of all why should Chloe be a Clois shipper. She does want to protect her cousin which is natural but She knows that Clark and Lana have loved each other for years. Not to mention she has gone through many ups and downs with their relationship with them.
claudiss
01-29-2009, 10:40 PM
I`m not disappointed at all.
Lois is her cousin and Lana is her best female friend so what can she do? she just tried to protect her cousin last episode, and now she`s just listening to his good friend Clark. she isn`t pimping clana nor bashing Lana, she`s just trying to help Clark confront his stupid feelings towards Lana.
anyways, I loved when Chloe told Clark that the reason he is starting to change the world and helping more people or whatever was because of him growing up...not because of Lana. so I`m proud of her for telling that to Clark :)
and ...Jimmy who?
unfocused
01-29-2009, 10:42 PM
She brought up Lois' feelings for Clark and the subtle attraction and chemistry between them, in Bulletproof. That's why people are calling her a Cloiser.
Storm45
01-29-2009, 10:45 PM
She was looking out for her cousin. She didn't say that Lois and Clark should be together or needed one another like Jimmy and Oliver did.
WildGoatTamer
01-29-2009, 10:46 PM
I thought Chloe meant that Clark has to make a decision, break or make Lois' heart. Not dawdle between Lois and Lana but actually stick with one girl.
BOUROUX
01-29-2009, 10:49 PM
I`m not disappointed at all.
Lana is her bestfreind.
Jimmy is in a coma. It's not necessary to stay at the hospital every day.
If you have parents at the hospital for more then a week you will understand.
I like Chloe in this episode.
I like the directing of Allison.
unfocused
01-29-2009, 10:57 PM
Wow, my brothers father-in-law is in the hospital right now. His wife is with him every day, all day. Even my brother visits a whole lot...
pizzahead2490
01-29-2009, 10:59 PM
i do not understand chole's actions.... even the extrem chole fans should be able to admit that.
MrZeppo
01-29-2009, 11:11 PM
I will admit, I was disappointed in Chloe. But not because she didn't speak out against Clana. Doing that would be over-stepping her bounds as a friend.
No, I was pissed that she kept quiet about Ares and Lana's earlier visit.
Chloe didn't have any idea what Lana's intentions were, why she was gathering all this info about Ares and whatnot. It could very well have been for revenge against Lex. It could have even put Clark in danger, however unintentionally.
So where was that Chloe from "Wrath" that said that she wouldn't allow Lana to do something that could hurt Clark? She said she knew Lana was capable of hurting Clark, and that she wouldn't let that happen.
Messing around with one of Lex's projects, with Ares, in no way could that be good. I can't imagine any way this would end well.
I dunno, I understand respecting a friend's privacy and confidence. But I think there are instances where that just doesn't work. I think Chloe should know better.
To be honest, it just seemed so unlike Chloe, I think that the writers just wrote Chloe to serve the storyline...
snarkycole
01-30-2009, 12:23 AM
I am very disappointed in Chloe.
We should have Lois for these episodes instead of Chloe. Lois shouldn't be doing Chloe's job for her, staying with Jimmy.
Wait, I'm sorry...maybe I zoned out while watching the episode, but I do not recollect hearing anyone say that Lois was holding vigil at Jimmy's hospital bedside. For all we know she's out of town chasing down a hot lead for the Planet. We also don't know if Jimmy is still in Star City or not (or, for that matter, what his medical status is), so perhaps some time between the end of Legion when Chloe took off to visit Jimmy to tonight's episode Jimmy had recovered enough to be transported from Star City to Metropolis General. The reason Chloe's in Metropolis/Smallville is most likely because somebody has to run Isis since the foundation's obviously not one of Lana's top priorities now.
Also, Lois in this episode instead of Chloe would not have worked at all because Lois would not be privy to any of the information Chloe has in order to move the plot (i.e. Chloe's close relationship to both Clark and Lana that provides her with some of their secrets.) In fact, having Lois in this episode would only have forced the audience to watch the emotional rollercoaster of a Lois/Clark/Lana triangle. The episode would no longer have been about how Lana plays a much larger role in the Superman mythology than she was originally intended, but rather it would've been about how Lois feels about Clark being so concerned about Lana and showing her emotional turmoil as she struggles with her growing feelings for Clark whilst his attentions are focused on his old flame whom he might still be in love with. And that would have distracted from the focus of showing how Lana becomes so important to the world as previously mentioned by Irma in Legion.
I just want to postscript my post by saying, I'm not trying to attack what you posted previously (although my extensive rant my probably suggests otherwise), because I do agree that even though I hate the fact that Jimmy is her husband now, Chloe should be by his side if we are to still assume he is indeed outside of Metropolis in critical condition. However, I thought your comment was a little overcritical and assumes facts that aren't actually in evidence, so I had to stay something.
RowdyEl
01-30-2009, 12:30 AM
I think what Chloe wanted was for Clark to make up his mind on who he wanted to be with!she knows that Lois has feelings for Clark and she didn't want Lois left hanging while Clarks beating around the bush with his feelings for Lana...in other words she wants Clark to talk with Lana and get those feelings out and pursue it if in fact he still had feelings for her instead of leaving Lois out there thinking there could be hope for her and Clark.so I am not disappointed in Chloe at all.
unfocused
01-30-2009, 12:32 AM
I'm getting the impression that Lois is still by Jimmy's side because no one else is.
devilneedsaride
01-30-2009, 01:01 AM
Who gives a sh!t. Give Chloe her storyline back.
Here here! I'm not overly fond of what's been done with Chloe this season, but please, for the love of cute little furry puppies, give her SOMETHING interesting to do.
1. Chloe seems to be going back and forth between Star City and Metropolis- Jimmy may even be out of ICU my point is WE DON'T KNOW.
2. No one knows where Lois is at the moment once again WE ARE NOT TOLD. And obviously Clark doesn't care where she is
3. Last week Chloe was protecting Lois- there was nothing to say that she thought clois should happen
4. Chloe didn't tell Clark he should be with Lana she was advocating that they discuss the situation like mature adults.
People are making assumptions about things we don't know because the writer's aren't bothering to tell us and Chloe is getting slammed for being put in the middle again.
AgentChaos
01-30-2009, 02:30 AM
1. Chloe seems to be going back and forth between Star City and Metropolis- Jimmy may even be out of ICU my point is WE DON'T KNOW.
How much time passed between Legion and Bulletproof? We know Legion started the same night Bride ended, and Power started the day after Bulletproof ended. Based on the timeframe, Jimmy could be out of the ICU, or he could still be in a coma.
As for Lois' whereabouts, it's not important to the plot this week, so they don't get mentioned.
unfocused
01-30-2009, 04:22 AM
Until there is reason to believe otherwise, Lois is still by Jimmy's side because no one else is.
SacredK
01-30-2009, 04:32 AM
Last week Clana fans were disappointed in Chloe. This week Clois fans are.
Here's an idea for the writers. Remember what you had the character say last week and leave Chloe out of Clark's romantic entanglement unless it's a Clark, Chloe one on one.
So no, I'm not disappointed in Chloe.
Thank you.
Anyhow, what exactly was Chloe supposed to do? She did nothing 'cuz she doesn't have the power to change anything. Lois might be her biological cousin, but I'm sure she sees Lana and Clark as somewhat family too. When it comes to the people you love and their romantic life, as long as there's no physical violence, IMO it's best to keep out and let them sort it out themselves. I'd do it the way Chloe did.
unfocused
01-30-2009, 04:35 AM
But Chloe didn't keep out of it...
But Chloe didn't keep out of it...
No she only advised him to talk to Lana, which he would have to do anyway either to explain that he had made a mistake or that he wanted to renew their relationship. It's not interfering to suggest that people talk about their feelings.
unfocused
01-30-2009, 04:45 AM
Chloe opened her mouth and put her two cents in. That's not "keeping out of it."
Alania
01-30-2009, 04:48 AM
I wasn't disappointed in her, she's not the problem at all, far from it. Clark is a grown man and Chloe certainly isn't his love counselour. Clark needs to figure things out on his own, it's his life. Chloe, last week was just standing up for her cousin, cause she knows pretty well what it feels like to be the third point in a love triangle. The problem is Clark, the fact that he still wants Lana Lang and that's never gonna change. The first half of season 8 was brushed off completely, regarding Lois and Clark.
Chloe opened her mouth and put her two cents in. That's not "keeping out of it."
If Clark didn't want to hear her advise he could have said so, but I didn't see him knocking it back did you? The problem is you don't like clana and think it's a mistake. Fair enough your entitled to that opinion, but it's Clark and Lana's decision to get together.
Kal-ed
01-30-2009, 04:59 AM
I'm sick of Chloe being the one to pimp the relationships. Who gives a sh!t. Give Chloe her storyline back. I was not disappointed in Chloe. She was looking out for her cousin last week; but once she realized Clark kissed Lana she knew he didn't have feelings for Lois. I'm just hoping the next couple of episodes she tells him to come clean. But of course they'll just forget about all the Clana kisses when Lois comes back.
Chloe is right when she "pimps" Clois and is wrong when she is looking out for her best friend's feelings?
The whole Chimmy thing should be explained; but if Jimmy is fine then Chloe should damn well be down here trying to help save the world instead of babysitting Jimmy.
What are you talking about? watch Bulletproof again and you`ll see Chloe never pimped Clois, she was merely looking out for her cousin. soooo not the same thing, she never said "Hey Clark, ditch Lana, Lois is the one for you" or "You should forget about Lana and go for Lois", she only said he should be carefull with Lois`s feelings, actually now that I think about it, it was quite the oposite Chloe was basically implying that he should let Lois easy. Im disapointed Chloe didnt have the common sense Clark lacks so much when he`s around Lana.
I had a friend he was in a destructive relationship, he didnt seem to realize it, all of us that cared for him did, we aproached him (not an intervention but individually) to give him our two cents in the matter, I wouldnt consider myself a good friend if I had kept my mouth shut, he didnt break up though but I did my part, a couple of months later she cheated on him, he caught her, needless to say he was devastaded, I was sad for him but with a clean concience. Im not saying Lana will cheat, the point is that Clark seems to forget the Bizarro incident, Lana stealing, Lana leaving Lex to die, Lana abusing his powers in Wrath, etc... Chloe had the chance to be the voice of reason and she decided to speak in favor of Lana while omiting the cons. Cause yes Clark should know the truth and that Lana didnt leave him via DVD out coldheartness, certainly Clark deserved to know the truth and Lana shouldn be blamed for it, how ever she`s still responsible for the other things I listed plus some more Im to lazy to write so IMO Chloe did wrong in this instance, in omision not in deed.
Also why is she not with her husband, since we havent heard of her return and she`s not at the DP we can asume its still Lois sitting next to Chloe`s husband, all chimmy issue aside, he`s still her husband and per last episode she was really concerned about her husband, today he was a non issue.
Of course this all boils down to the writers and the Clana obssesion, like in Promise both Chloe and Martha had a very OOC moment and pimped the Clana when in previous episodes the retoric had been the exact oposite. But in this case Chloe is the character that sufferd, which brings me to my main point Clana doesnt just hurt Clark and Lana, it hurts everyone around them.
unfocused
01-30-2009, 05:01 AM
Who else was disappointed in Chloe?
Me.
Dustmite
01-30-2009, 05:09 AM
I had a friend he was in a destructive relationship, he didnt seem to realize it, all of us that cared for him did, we aproached him (not an intervention but individually) to give him our two cents in the matter, I wouldnt consider myself a good friend if I had kept my mouth shut, he didnt break up though but I did my part, a couple of months later she cheated on him, he caught her, needless to say he was devastaded, I was sad for him but with a clean concience. Im not saying Lana will cheat, the point is that Clark seems to forget the Bizarro incident, Lana stealing, Lana leaving Lex to die, Lana abusing his powers in Wrath, etc... Chloe had the chance to be the voice of reason and she decided to speak in favor of Lana while omiting the cons. Cause yes Clark should know the truth and that Lana didnt leave him via DVD out coldheartness, certainly Clark deserved to know the truth and Lana shouldn be blamed for it, how ever she`s still responsible for the other things I listed plus some more Im to lazy to write so IMO Chloe did wrong in this instance, in omision not in deed.
I don't believe Chloe did wrong by not telling Clark to stay away from Lana. It's not her place. I would rather she stay well away from Clana. As far away as possible but the writers won't allow that and I'm certainly not going to blame Chloe for Clark's decisions. Let's be honest, he doesn't need encouragement and never has where Lana is concerned.
Talking of friends and difficult situations, we each have our own experiences. I had a close friend who's boyfriend treated her like crap. He still does. I talked to her about it. She defended him and decided I was just trying to get between them. We don't talk anymore but she's marrying him next year. He's till a f*ckwit but now I'm the one who lost a friend :\
I don't believe Chloe did wrong by not telling Clark to stay away from Lana. It's not her place. I would rather she stay well away from Clana. As far away as possible but the writers won't allow that and I'm certainly not going to blame Chloe for Clark's decisions. Let's be honest, he doesn't need encouragement and never has where Lana is concerned.
Talking of friends and difficult situations, we each have our own experiences. I had a close friend who's boyfriend treated her like crap. He still does. I talked to her about it. She defended him and decided I was just trying to get between them. We don't talk anymore but she's marrying him next year. He's till a f*ckwit but now I'm the one who lost a friend :\
Oh you poor thing, it's hard to know when to say something and when not to. I had a friend whose boyfriend at the time hit on me and I never said anything, which was really wrong on my part but I was afraid she wouldn't believe me. They broke upo not long after anyway.
Dustmite
01-30-2009, 05:18 AM
Oh you poor thing, it's hard to know when to say something and when not to. I had a friend whose boyfriend at the time hit on me and I never said anything, which was really wrong on my part but I was afraid she wouldn't believe me. They broke upo not long after anyway.
Thank you for the sympathy. I would probably do the same again because I can't keep my mouth shut and I couldn't stand stand to see the way he treated her but...
Back on topic, they need to keep Chloe away from Clana. I hate it with a passion when the writers use her like this.
Chloe opened her mouth and put her two cents in. That's not "keeping out of it."
Did she tell him to go eat her face on the roof of the DP?
unfocused
01-30-2009, 05:19 AM
She still butted in. That's not "keeping out o fit."
Kal-ed
01-30-2009, 05:22 AM
I don't believe Chloe did wrong by not telling Clark to stay away from Lana. It's not her place. I would rather she stay well away from Clana. As far away as possible but the writers won't allow that and I'm certainly not going to blame Chloe for Clark's decisions. Let's be honest, he doesn't need encouragement and never has where Lana is concerned.
Talking of friends and difficult situations, we each have our own experiences. I had a close friend who's boyfriend treated her like crap. He still does. I talked to her about it. She defended him and decided I was just trying to get between them. We don't talk anymore but she's marrying him next year. He's till a f*ckwit but now I'm the one who lost a friend :\
I think the writers can choose to have Clark having a mature reaction to Chloe`s advice so I dont forsee a problem there. Im sorry about you loosing your friend but your still suporting my point, whether your friend believed you or not, whether she listened to you or not, you did your part and as you stated it, you`d do it again, cause as a friends its the right thing to do, and that`s what Chloe should have done. Your friend`s reaction was very inmature, ok so my friend didnt listen to my advice either but he also didnt acuse me of having an agenda and conspirying against him. They could have Clark having the same reaction my friend had, listening to Chloe but choosing to overlook it, at least we`d know where he stands and Chloe did what she could as a friend, but as things are, Im not even sure if he remembers it or is he blaming himself for Lana sleeping and being utterly happy with Bizarro. And we dont know if Chloe thinks its a bad idea or not, I dont sugest she should do something to separate them, just give her 2 cents on the matter and let Clark make the choice.
I never blamed Chloe for Clark`s decisions, Clark getting back with Lana is certainly all his doing, I blame Chloe (the writers really) for her decision to not giveClark a piece of her mind and that`s as far as the blame goes. Also her decision to diss her husband, that`s the problem when you shoehorn a character into an episode while at the same time shoehorning some out of one, it doesnt make sense that Chloe is not next to Jimmy, it doesnt make sense that Jimmy is in Star City and it doesnt make sense that Lois would be taking carae of Jimmy while Chloe is in Metropolis having cofee with Clark.
wafflles87
01-30-2009, 05:30 AM
I didn't really mind her encouraging the Clana. Made sense.
What I did mind was the lack of mentioning Jimmy, or why the hell she's in Smallville. And no, Allison's contract for all epis is not a good reason story-wise. Would it have killed them to drop a line?
They could've just have Clark ask how Jimmy, and Chloe mention she's in SV because of smth that happened at the Isis. That's it... 2 lines. 20 seconds tops
Awful writing if you ask me. Almost broke my leg in one of those plot holes.
Dustmite
01-30-2009, 05:31 AM
I think the writers can choose to have Clark having a mature reaction to Chloe`s advice so I dont forsee a problem there. Im sorry about you loosing your friend but your still suporting my point, whether your friend believed you or not, whether she listened to you or not, you did your part and as you stated it, you`d do it again, cause as a friends its the right thing to do, and that`s what Chloe should have done. Your friend`s reaction was very inmature, ok so my friend didnt listen to my advice either but he also didnt acuse me of having an agenda and conspirying against him. They could have Clark having the same reaction my friend had, listening to Chloe but choosing to overlook it, at least we`d know where he stands and Chloe did what she could as a friend, but as things are, Im not even sure if he remembers it or is he blaming himself for Lana sleeping and being utterly happy with Bizarro. And we dont know if Chloe thinks its a bad idea or not, I dont sugest she should do something to separate them, just give her 2 cents on the matter and let Clark make the choice.
I never blamed Chloe for Clark`s decisions, Clark getting back with Lana is certainly all his doing, I blame Chloe (the writers really) for her decision to not giveClark a piece of her mind and that`s as far as the blame goes. Also her decision to diss her husband, that`s the problem when you shoehorn a character into an episode while at the same time shoehorning some out of one, it doesnt make sense that Chloe is not next to Jimmy, it doesnt make sense that Jimmy is in Star City and it doesnt make sense that Lois would be taking carae of Jimmy while Chloe is in Metropolis having cofee with Clark.
Jimmy should have been mentioned. It's absurd that he wasn't but if we're talking about it from a storytelling POV, I simply don't believe Lois is in Star City for the sole purpose of nursing Jimmy. IMO, she's avoiding Clana and I think that is what's keeping her away from Metropolis.
And TBH, I don't know why the writers feel the need to treat us as we're stupid and won't realize these things :mad:
I didn't really mind her encouraging the Clana. Made sense.
What I did mind was the lack of mentioning Jimmy, or why the hell she's in Smallville. And no, Allison's contract for all epis is not a good reason story-wise. Would it have killed them to drop a line?
They could've just have Clark ask how Jimmy, and Chloe mention she's in SV because of smth that happened at the Isis. That's it... 2 lines. 20 seconds tops
Awful writing if you ask me. Almost broke my leg in one of those plot holes.
Yes but according to some the writing was good and it was the director's fault that Jimmy wasn't mentioned
People are making assumptions about things we don't know because the writer's aren't bothering to tell us and Chloe is getting slammed for being put in the middle again.
Exactly. Clark chose Lana. Not Chloe. Not Lois. Not Tess. Not the chickee who serves him coffee at the Talon or wherever. But Lana. Again.
Imo, Chimmy stinks so much even the writer's have forgotten to remind the audience that she's married and might be busy with the new hubby who was recently attacked by her stalker. *This* is why that relationship doesn't work. She's far more invested in her best friend than her husband. Maybe she wants more out of life than just being Mrs. Olsen.
Plus I still have issues with Clark suggesting (once again) that Chloe's been hiding things from him. What about the dang mind rape? When is that going to be addressed?
unfocused
01-30-2009, 06:27 AM
Ok so Clana is Clark's fault, but Chimmy is the writers fault and not Chloe's?
llk6165
01-30-2009, 06:34 AM
Yes. I was disappointed. No, I don't hate Chloe. My problem is the same one I have with every aspect of the show. What was the point? It doesn't make sense that she is counseling Clark about his love life while her husband's life hangs on the thread. Jimmy got that way becaue he was trying to protect Chloe, and she's going to visit the farm, stopping at a quaint coffee shop for a latte. They do have coffee in the hospital vending machines. I know it's just TV, but that aspect is a bit ridiculous.My problem is not with a fictional character, but rather I don't get the real people that write these things.
Ok so Clana is Clark's fault, but Chimmy is the writers fault and not Chloe's?
Nope. Clana and Chimmy is both the writers' fault. What I meant is that Clana is still obvious bcuz the writers chose that road. While Chimmy is so boring that (imho) they can't be bothered to sustain it even by devoting a few words to the relationship (in this episode). I mean, Clark could have thanked Chloe for being there despite having a sick husband. Hell they could have mentioned Lois out chasing the story of a lifetime. But no. They didn't. Instead they chose (with perhaps Mack's consultation) to have a very iconic Clana kiss. Who knows? Maybe it's been done is some era of the comics.
This show is increasingly showing signs of decay and I just think it's quite contrary to PS3's claims of having more stories to tell.
luthorian
01-30-2009, 07:11 AM
I think they did kill Chloe in Legion. :(
marikology
01-30-2009, 07:21 AM
Chloe didn't bother me. Clark was asking her questions about Lana that she couldn't answer, so she told him, "go talk to her and find out, dur."
I wasn't disappointed in Chloe, but I'm annoyed that they have put all her issues (mindwipe, wedding, chimmy (ugh), etc) on the back burner.
stenochick
01-30-2009, 07:44 AM
I was only disappointed in Chloe keeping Lana's secret from Clark because the secret involved Lex, who knows Clark's secret. Clark cannot be blindsided by this stuff. Lex is very dangerous now that he knows Clark's secret.
LuckyLois
01-30-2009, 07:58 AM
I wonder if Chloe remembers she killed someone yet! She is bi-polar lately. Don't hurt my cousin, go after Lana even if she does suck the life out of you, blah, blah, blah! I love Chloe but go take care of Jimmy already and bring Los back!!!!!
Chloe + Lana = Clark stuck-in-mud!
Vindellavon
01-30-2009, 02:34 PM
*snort* Everyone was in love with Chloe after she pimped out Lois. Now she's being hated again. Not surprised.
:lol: I was thinking the same thing!
kg1507
01-30-2009, 05:17 PM
Can I just say once again that I don''t hate Chloe, and after reading all these responses I can understand where the rest of you are coming from. Yes, Chloe just wants the best for everybody, I can get that. I'm just a big Cloiser around here so I guess I let that get in the way of how difficult it must've been for her to try and keep everyone happy.
luthorian
01-30-2009, 05:27 PM
I don't undestand why any Clois fan would want Chloe to tell Clark what to do and what not to do. That is exactly what makes me say no to Clois.
Now what I find dissapointing is that Chloe is written to tell Clark what to do next when she should have a life of her own. At least she did in the better half of this season:rolleyes:
Billy Jor-El
01-30-2009, 05:37 PM
I guess she's no longer awesomesauce.:lol: I have often read that what happens between Clark and EDlois doesn't involve Chloe. So, why should she be the Clois cheerleader?
"Awesomesauce" :lol: I gotta steal that!!!! The purr kitten is awesomesauce, la-la-la-la-la
Keep in mind, too that I don't think she'll ever be over Clark herself. When talking to him about the Lana/Lois potential triangle she reference something about knowing what it's like to be the third member. relationships are hard. Tough to run into one where....you love her, she loves you....there's usually, uh, complications along the way.
:D awesomesauce awesomesauce hee hee hee :D
Kal-ed
01-31-2009, 01:57 AM
I wasn't disappointed in Chloe, but I'm annoyed that they have put all her issues (mindwipe, wedding, chimmy (ugh), etc) on the back burner.
Everything is in the back burner during this Lana intermision, the Red and Blue Blur, Doomsday, what ever consecuences of Chloe having Brainiac inside of her, Clark as a reporter, Tess and her Injustice League (and now seeing how Lana opening Tess´s eyes has put Tess against Lex, that whole plot went down the hole, just to have Lana shine:rolleyes:), Clois (which also wento down a hole to favor Lana).
It´s what´s so ridiculous about PS3´s decision.
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Keep in mind, too that I don't think she'll ever be over Clark herself
I would think/hope Chloe is a lot smarter than Clark and has actually moved on.
Bizarrolover
01-31-2009, 05:12 AM
Chloe can't force Clark to do anything. He acted on his lingering feelings for Lana. If he were interested in EDlois then nothing would have stopped him from pursuing her. What exactly should Chloe have done? Pushed him toward EDlois? Why would anyone want the "legendery" romance to start that way?
This is a discussion about SV characters. Please, in posts when there is no need to tell the difference between actresses playing Lois, try not to use EDlois, it's a discredit for the actress that plays the role. There is only one Lois in smallville, even if you don't recognize ED's as such.
marcella
01-31-2009, 05:33 AM
I honestly just think that was bad writing!!
Cant blame that on Chloe.....
ITA:lol:
Wicked Lois
01-31-2009, 05:37 AM
HAHAHAH I dont blame Chloe at all. I blame this show.
Mickey_Bickey
01-31-2009, 11:18 AM
Chloe was all strength and power last week, and it's not because she was warning Clark about Lois, but just that her character was standard Chloe for me.....strong, convincing, standing up for herself and those around her!
In this episode I almost didn't recognize her! She was almost ditzy in some scenes especially the "Dear Clark" video scene and the flashback with Lana.
What was most noticeable for me was that Chloe who is usually the smartest character on this show seemed almost dumb compared to the "brilliant mind of Lana Lang". I didn't like it, not one bit. Also, not even a mention of Jimmy by her. The writers made her character look bad, and the only reason that I can think of was once again to put the Lana Lang character above everyone else.
I hope that we see the real Chloe next week.
I don't blame AM for this at all. It all falls on the writing 'team'!
Iluvgreen
01-31-2009, 12:23 PM
I wasn't what you call disappointed. I was expecting something else though. Maybe she feels Clark needs to do what he wants before he realizes his love for Lois more clearly.
Ok, Chloe gave Clark that great speech about the love triangle and how the third point always hurts the most. She told him not to hurt Lois. She stuck up for her cousin, and one episode later, what does she do when she finds out Clark and Lana kissed? NOTHING. I was so disappointed.
No consistancy whatsowever! Clark has obviously decided to make the same mistake once again for the hundredth time! Chloe told him not to hurt her cousin, well he decided against it, cos he is well on the way of just doing that! First it was Chloe he was hurting now Lois, all cos he has got Lana blinders on! Chloe should have said something alongt the lines: 'Are you crazy, you mindless, spineless idiot!!!! Wake up and smell the disaster!' And she should have left him to his own devices and flown to Star City to sit by her hubby, and not give that job to Lois! What are the writers thinking! Every time Lana blows into town every other character has to pay the price! Clark, Chloe, Lois, etc...
Kal-ed
02-02-2009, 12:06 AM
The thing is, its not about Lois or Clois, at all, I was glad Chloe looked after her cousin in Bulletproof, we hear how they are like sisters but we very seldomly see it play out on screen, specially on Chloe´s side. Now Im disapointed in Chloe, LOIS and CLOIS completely aside, that as Clark´s friend she didnt speak her mind when, he clearly needs some perspective. if Ive been Clark´s friend I would have had this convo a year or two earlier.
Maybe Im being too hard on Chloe cause I desperately want someone, anyone to at least say what Lana has done wrong, so Clark can hear it and we can at least know if he´s shruging it off as endearing, or he blames himself for all she´s done... it frustrates me to see him this much in love, with this image of Lana that is so far from the truth, even she has admited it.
How ever I cant let Chloe free from the not being with Jimmy thing, as I said before, its the problem with the contracts taking seniority over story, AM has a 22 episode so she MUST be in all 22 episodes, so even if it would have been the best idea for Chloe to be in Star City during this episode. Or they could have worked a scene with Chloe in the hospital with Jimmy but again, contracts over story, hey maybe they could have an extra with Jimmy´s hair color, put an artificial breather and have Chloe on the cell with Clark with someone else playin Jimmy in bed out of focus.
Honestly I dont get how this people who are suposed to be profesionals manage to screw up things so much, so fast.
Kalista
02-02-2009, 12:23 AM
Now Im disapointed in Chloe, LOIS and CLOIS completely aside, that as Clark´s friend she didnt speak her mind when, he clearly needs some perspective. if Ive been Clark´s friend I would have had this convo a year or two earlier.
Maybe Im being too hard on Chloe cause I desperately want someone, anyone to at least say what Lana has done wrong, so Clark can hear it and we can at least know if he´s shruging it off as endearing, or he blames himself for all she´s done
It's not Chloe's place to interfere with Clana. When Clana fails, it needs to happen because of problems within the relationship and not because of any external influence. She told him to go see Lana so they could figure things out between themselves and I think that was appropriate.
How ever I cant let Chloe free from the not being with Jimmy thing, as I said before, its the problem with the contracts taking seniority over story, AM has a 22 episode so she MUST be in all 22 episodes, so even if it would have been the best idea for Chloe to be in Star City during this episode. Or they could have worked a scene with Chloe in the hospital with Jimmy but again, contracts over story, hey maybe they could have an extra with Jimmy´s hair color, put an artificial breather and have Chloe on the cell with Clark with someone else playin Jimmy in bed out of focus.
Chloe doesn't need to be in Star City in order for the audience to know that she is visiting him in the hospital and extras are unnecessary.
I'll just quote myself from another thread.
In Legion, she baked cookies and went to see Jimmy. In Bulletproof, Clark said he was glad to catch her before she left (for Star City) as she was packing a bag. Chloe told Clark she wanted to get back before Jimmy wakes up.
So, she's obviously traveling back and forth between Star City and SV probably to pick up things she needs while away. Stopping by to briefly see Clark during one of her return trips to SV does not make her a neglectful wife. The writers have given plenty of hints that she is with Jimmy on a routine basis.
Kal-ed
02-02-2009, 10:32 PM
It IS her place as Clark friend to tell him she doesnt agree with X or Y, now if she´s all pro Lana, then have her endorse it but dont say its not her place cause as Clarks bff her point of view is something Clark should take into consideration, Im not saying that she has the last word on Clana but I think if she gave Clark a piece of her mind (Im hoping it would be against Clana and about all of Lana´s defects, Clark has managed to overlook), he could open his eyes to the mistake he´s doing.
I wouldnt consider someone my friend if they didnt care enough to tell me something, when they think Im going down a wrong path, Im not saying they should tie me up and force me to do something but speaking their mind, if I dont choose to listen to them, then it was my bad, they did what was in their power as my friends.
So IMO it is her place, I cant understand people who talk about the Chlark conection but now she cant even give Clark some well deserved sound advice cause "its not her place".
As for Chloe "visiting" Jimmy when she´s on a nother city, well unless Star City is an hour drive or she´s making tons of money to pay for 2 round tickets per week, she´s at most visiting him once a week, that´s not what I would expect from my wife if I stood against a monster to protect her and wound up seriously hurt, specially when her cousin temporarily moved to Star City to take care of him.
But I guess if its about giving Chloe a get out of jail free card, facts dont matter.
Just Another Guy
02-02-2009, 10:39 PM
Good grief... I'm waiting for someone to start complaining about the radiator design.
This is getting ridiculous.
Kalista
02-02-2009, 10:50 PM
Im not saying that she has the last word on Clana but I think if she gave Clark a piece of her mind (Im hoping it would be against Clana and about all of Lana´s defects, Clark has managed to overlook), he could open his eyes to the mistake he´s doing.
After watching this series for eight years, do yo honestly believe this?
Clark knew she stole ten million dollars from Lex, kidnapped Lionel and tried to kill Lex in S7 but he stayed with her. Chloe sees what's wrong with Lana but she's smart enough to know that has to reach a decision about Lana on his own. The situation is similar to having a good friend who's dating someone that is abusive or cheating on them (with the mate's knowledge of the infidelity).
You can encourage them to leave, research shelters, and offer to take them but until they see for themselves that they need to leave and decide to take action, you cannot force them. It's a similar situation with Chloe, Clark, and Lana. Since Chloe is Clark and Lana's friend, it wouldn't be right for her to interfere with the relationship.
I wouldnt consider someone my friend if they didnt care enough to tell me something, when they think Im going down a wrong path, Im not saying they should tie me up and force me to do something but speaking their mind, if I dont choose to listen to them, then it was my bad, they did what was in their power as my friends.
So IMO it is her place, I cant understand people who talk about the Chlark conection but now she cant even give Clark some well deserved sound advice cause "its not her place".
Chloe has spoken her mind to Clark plenty of times. But there are times when she needs to stay out of a situation. For obvious reasons the quality of her friendship to Clark isn't in question.
As for Chloe "visiting" Jimmy when she´s on a nother city, well unless Star City is an hour drive or she´s making tons of money to pay for 2 round tickets per week, she´s at most visiting him once a week, that´s not what I would expect from my wife if I stood against a monster to protect her and wound up seriously hurt, specially when her cousin temporarily moved to Star City to take care of him.
That's speculation. We don't know how often she is with him but the writers have taken the time to let the audience know that she is concerned about Jimmy and visiting him on a regular basis as she travels back and forth between Star City and Smallville. Period.
As I said before, either her cousin went to Star City to look after Jimmy or she left because of Clana. It's one or the other so I don't think it was this grand, noble gesture as much as she wanted to get away from the situation with Clark and Lana.
But I guess if its about giving Chloe a get out of jail free card, facts dont matter.
Facts do matter and that's why we can't ignore what the writers have said about Chloe visiting Jimmy.
CK&CK
02-03-2009, 12:03 AM
Chloe Sullivan has become a joke now. Not quite as bad as the laughable miss Lana Fu Fang.........but now.....if they never introduce Chloe to the comics.....that would be A-Okay with me. Seriously.....what is it with Jimmy Olson and the women he dates or marries in the comics.....they all become perfectly forgettable.........he's the Kiss of Death Miss Sullivan......the kiss of death!
Kal-ed
02-03-2009, 02:55 AM
Alright, if we are not going to speculate at all, then Chloe has only ONCE visited Jimmy, so I was actually being very generous with the once a week thing.
And in the same vein of not speculating, Lois has no personal agenda and is truly there to take care of Jimmy, she said it herself in Bride and we havent seen or heard anything from or about her that contradicts that line, its like you said, we cant ignore what the writers have said about Lois´s reasons for being in Star City.
And, I dont remember or I may have skiped the episode since I usually skip Clana centric ones but when has Chloe spoken her mind about Clana and what did she say?
Kalista
02-03-2009, 03:50 AM
Alright, if we are not going to speculate at all, then Chloe has only ONCE visited Jimmy, so I was actually being very generous with the once a week thing.
We don't know how much time has passed since Chloe's separation from Brainiac but the show contradicts your statement that she has only been to the hospital once. She went to see him in Legion. In Bulletproof, Clark said he was glad to catch her before she left to see Jimmy. Chloe emphasized that she wanted to get back to the hospital to be with Jimmy.
This doesn't sound like a wife who lacks concern for her husband.
Legion
I'll feel even better when I get to Star City to see my husband. I'm relieving Lois of her nursing duties.
I'm just glad he's okay.
In this scene, we have Chloe packing clothes, books, photography magazines, and a camera for Jimmy. She even baked cookies for him.
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Clark: I'm glad I caught you before you left.
Chloe:I just want to get back to the hospital before Jimmy wakes up.
The dialogue and the props in Bulletproof indicate that Chloe returned to to SV and Isis to pack additional items and return to hospital. Clark must have just caught her before she returned. She didn't specifically return to visit Clark, he caught her by chance.
If you look at this cap you can see that there is a carry on bag and and a suitcase with baggage claim tags. That means that Chloe packed for an extended stay in Star City.
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And in the same vein of not speculating, Lois has no personal agenda and is truly there to take care of Jimmy, she said it herself in Bride and we havent seen or heard anything from or about her that contradicts that line, its like you said, we cant ignore what the writers have said about Lois´s reasons for being in Star City.
So are you saying that she didn't leave because of Clana? Because ED implied that is why she wouldn't be around when Clana resurfaced. I see many of the character's fans saying that she left to avoid the Clana drama. Although the writers said that she left to take of care of Jimmy there was a clear indication that she left because of what transpired at the wedding and because she observed Clana in the hospital. That's why, IMHO, she is in Star City for only one of those reasons.
And, I dont remember or I may have skiped the episode since I usually skip Clana centric ones but when has Chloe spoken her mind about Clana and what did she say?
I didn't mean to imply that Chloe has ever openly criticized Clana. She hasn't but there have been occasions when she addressed certain issues with Clark and Lana. In Wrath, Chloe told Clark he was looking for reasons to excuse Lana's behavior. Actually, she posed what I think was a rhetorical question. I'm glad that she did because that was her way of encouraging Clark to analyze Lana's behavior and his own thought process with regard to Lana.
If Chloe criticized Clana then people would accuse her of being spiteful and jealous. I'm happy about that because when Clana dies, no one can accuse Chloe of undermining the relationship.
Krypto_marcus
02-03-2009, 04:02 AM
I was big time disappointed in Chloe!
In "Bulletproof" she basically told him not to get back with Lana but in "Power" she suddenly became a Clana fan. I was so happy for a moment there when Clark said "It was a mistake... she's holding me back" and so on, but then Chloe had to ruin it!
I'm not blaming everything on Chloe though, it's not her fault. But I was very disappointed in her!
Maybe Im being too hard on Chloe cause I desperately want someone, anyone to at least say what Lana has done wrong, so Clark can hear it and we can at least know if he´s shruging it off as endearing, or he blames himself for all she´s done... it frustrates me to see him this much in love, with this image of Lana that is so far from the truth, even she has admited it.
The problem is, that for all her faults Lana didn't force Clark to be with her or to constantly put his future as a Superman on hold for the sake of some misguided dream of a common life and relationship with a person, who is in a fact only an illusion! Truth is he doesn't know the real Lana, the real Lana isn't his type at all, and if he knew her he wouldn't even like her!
But he can't see that cause he is blinded by the wish to have that, which was not meant for him, a 'normal' life, and Lana the quintessential girl next door is in his eyes the girl to have that life with! So in endeffect, the only person to blame is Clark! We can blame Lana for the konstant mistakes she made in her life and keeps making, we can also blame her for her many characterfaults, which she by making those many mistakes only makes worse, but we cannot blame her for Clark's weakwilled character when it comes to her! That is all on him!!!!
gem65
02-12-2009, 11:04 AM
I think we should cut Chloe some slack.
lovinredkclark
02-12-2009, 11:20 AM
She was looking out for her cousin last week; but once she realized Clark kissed Lana she knew he didn't have feelings for Lois. I'm just hoping the next couple of episodes she tells him to come clean. But of course they'll just forget about all the Clana kisses when Lois comes back.
what about the little fact THAT HE SLEPT WITH BLAHNA. how can they just sweep that away and forget it.:(
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