Is Clark kent a hypocrite?

[zorasuperman]

Ok so tell me why this BDA said to Chloe a few minutes ago about lana holding him back. my mind is a little hazy, but he said something along the lines of "lana left, I got a job at the planet, started saving people," yada yada yada yada. and chloe is like you cant blame it all on lana or something like that. and THEN clark says at the end no lana youre not a distraction in my life

Hypocrite?

yes
no
or netural

[davidbrenton]

Yes. And I'm sorry, but TW delivery of lines could express more intelligence than the actor communicates. "Lana wants to use prometheous for her own gain"

(Awwe instead of a knowledgeable acknowledgement or thinking out loud). I'm only down on Tom for his portrayel as it relates to Lana. SORRY!

[biggkoz]

Clark is BDA

[Smallville6]

It was because he was unsure and by the end once he saw Lana again, he made the decision that it wasnt Lana, it was himself.
So, no he's not a hypocrite.

[SmallvilleMan]

Because Clark was venting and Chloe made him realize he was wrong.

[TECHWON]

Because Clark was venting and Chloe made him realize he was wrong.


yeah i mean we've seen this a dozen times

[SmallvilleMan]

Seen what? Chloe talk down Clark?

[KSiteTV]

Hey, cut it out with the BDA stuff... it offends some people, and I think we should respect that. :)

[Diego*Chloe]

Yes

[Bella882]

I couldn't take him seriously, did he not learn ANYTHING, I mean anything at all from Abyss? And I wonder if the writers check their own history, considering Chlark have already had the exact.same.conversation (about Lana no less) in Season six's Hydro

Chloe: Clark, before you unload your anger on me, can I just say that I think it's incredibly unfair that everyone trusts me to keep their secrets, and then they turn around and throw me attitude for keeping someone else secret. Look, I'm sorry that I had to take a two second breather from hiding the fact that your an alien from another planet to protect someone else for a change. God.....you had that coming ya know

Clark: For the record, I prefer intergalactic traveler over Alien from another planet

[Kid Collins]

Clark said that Lana was holding him back because he was angry with her for leaving him in the first place.

Obviously after he learned how she disappeared he understood why she left and now he's no longer angry and realizes she never held him back. Now he wants her in his life again.

[paolinki25]

I'm sorry, but Clark has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. Like I have said before, this confusion was endearing and cute back in season 1. Now, it's just plain ridiculous. I'm a firm believer that what Clark needs right now is to be all by himself. In fact, I hope they won't even dare to have anything between Clois yet, because they have messed up pretty bad now.

[SmallvilleMan]

Confusion? I'm pretty sure he knows what he wants.....

[unfocused]

Hey, cut it out with the BDA stuff... it offends some people, and I think we should respect that. :)

Thanks, I was just about to report it :)

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On topic, Clark was having doubts. He regretted the kiss, but Chloe came and changed his mind about it. She helped him see it differently and now he wants Lana again.

[Alicia Chipy]

There were so many secrets and lies in this episode,I thought Chloe was the only non-hypocrite.

[Lilah]

I'm sorry, but Clark has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. Like I have said before, this confusion was endearing and cute back in season 1. Now, it's just plain ridiculous. I'm a firm believer that what Clark needs right now is to be all by himself. In fact, I hope they won't even dare to have anything between Clois yet, because they have messed up pretty bad now.

Yeah it was cute when he was in fact 14.... Now not so much.... Am I still watching Smallville or is this like a completely different show now.... I'm so cofused....:confused:

[thehenry89]

His actions were very hypocritical.

As far as I'm concerned if he doesn't know anything by now he will never never never know it.

[silverdragon]

yes he is a huge jack a$$ of a hyprocrite

[kaam]

I'm sorry, but Clark has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. Like I have said before, this confusion was endearing and cute back in season 1. Now, it's just plain ridiculous. I'm a firm believer that what Clark needs right now is to be all by himself. In fact, I hope they won't even dare to have anything between Clois yet, because they have messed up pretty bad now.

I totally agree. He needs to go into a complete solitary, by his own will.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Clark has always been a hypocrite.

[SGuthrie27]

I hadn't really thought about him being a hypocrite with what he said with Lana later, but I realize now that you all are right.

The MOST hypocritical thing he did (at least for me), though, was (once again), bashing Chloe for keeping Lana's secret from him when she's ALWAYS faithfully keeping his secret from other people, and HE'S keeping the secret that he wiped her memory away from her! That was one of the few moments this season where I thought about the old nickname people used to use for Clark so often -- Big Dumb Alien.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

P.S. I'm not bashing Clark, here. I think he's an awesome character. He just needs to learn to practice what he preaches sometimes.

[ginnyfan]

Clark is conflicted. And yeah... in this episode he's dumb. LOL!

I don't think he's being hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if he was always telling people to be heroic and when faced with a destructive relationship, end it quickly.

About secrets his motto is to keep a secret to PROTECT people. He felt Chloe keeping Lana's secret endangered her. The truth is, Lana is a danger to herself in this quest for POWER.

[claudiss]

clark is so ...clark. when it comes to love.

[pizzahead2490]

clark is an idiot

[Fugoukakusha]

Actually I think Clark is just confused. Though I really wish that he could think for himself and not have Chloe be his voice of reason all the time. Sheez, I mean the guy is supposedly in his 20's isn't he?

Truthfully, I found Lana to be the most hypocritical. I mean really, she was sprouting these phrases on how she thought that they weren't really meant to be together when really, inside she was just envious of what Clark had and when she had it, hey, they can be together again!

[CLanaF23]

ok. i guess everyone didnt see what clark was trying to do..just because everyone hates lana for NO legit reason. i think clark was watching the video and got mad because he thought "lana wanted to leave me she broke my heart", and he was mad at himself that he could still love her..after the video thing..a defense mechanism obviously. but then when he found out from tess that lana was forced to make the video clark felt like he didnt have to hold back his feelings. and if everyone thinks lana held him back from getting a job and saving people not true...lana has always encouraged clark to save lives and grow up..truthfully clark didnt want to grow up and realize lana is grown and they both can live their lives grown up but together..and if everyone wants to say "oh clark is always saving lana" how many times has clark saved LOIS and chloe? oh but they aren't holding clark back right. lana is the one person through the whole series who has been 100% down for clark..even if she didnt want to admit it..lana's life has been turned completly upside down for Clark...they still love each other even now and they cant be together??? i think its a rip off and bs..and its not smallville at its best. lois is the most forced relationship on clark ever. and i hate it and smallville for destroying true love. CLANA <3

[unfocused]

Clark was awesome tonight. He saw the Clana for what it really was. A relationship that held him back all these years.

Too bad Chloe had to come and open her mouth about how Lana never did that :lol:

[smallvillerocks45]

The way I see it is like this: Clark is in the candy aisle at the grocery store. He knows that he shouldn't eat any because it's not particularly healthy and even when in small doses it's really expensive, so he walks along to get to the other end of the store when finally he sees his favorite candy - he hasn't had it in a year but today it's on sale - buy one, get one free - and they're selling the new and improved less sugar, fewer calories version and the company is going out of business (once the stock is gone, it's gone forever)... who could pass up their favorite candy?

He's been doing really well with the tasty, healthy organic snacks, and he was starting to lose the taste for this candy, but now that it's right in front of him, he can actually afford it and he may never get a chance to eat it again - if the factors that kept him from eating it are no longer an issue, why not? Maybe he'll kick himself if he doesn't buy it, or always wonder what if... it's just candy, but it makes him happy... So he caves in and buys the piece of candy, and now because he knows it's normally not healthy, that it is always expensive, an he may never get the chance to purchase it again, he'll treat his candy differently... he won't consume it like before, he'll try to make it last longer, he'll remember to brush his teeth, and he'll balance it with his other meals - he won't just eat candy all day... He knows one day he'll finish this bag of candy, but he'll enjoy it as long as it lasts - if that's a day, okay, but if it's a few weeks that's okay too...

Wouldn't you buy the candy, too?

I don't think it's Clark being a hypocrite, Clark's just trying to find happiness and balance. No, the relationship hasn't been "normal" or anything close to healthy in the past - but is it just Lana's (a lá, the candy's) fault... Well, no... because Clark was not following abiding by the rules of the food pyramid, so to speak, in that he wanted just that type of food and nothing else. The thing is, he knows better now, and he also realizes that it might not last and for all intensive purposes probably won't - but does a person ever begrudgingly eat a candy bar because he/she knows that once you're done chewing you have to swallow? No, you eat it and move on. ...But was I happy while it lasted? Yes. Am I kicking myself for my indulgences? No. Do I think it will be easier to continue on with a healthier path now that I've gotten this craving out of my system? Yes. Will I always kind of wish the company hadn't shut down? Of course, but I'm not going to let it rule me - at the end of the day it's just candy and there are more important things in the world. Besides, now that the candy I've always preferred is gone, I can try out something new - it's still candy so I have to be careful - but who knows, it may become my new favorite and never go out of stock...

[LOvInLoiSLaNe]

Clark's a punk! and he should get slapped. I LOATHE the way he acts when he is around lana. he's just so blah..

[coco#1]

hypocracy has nothing to do with it. its more like uncertanty.....its probably more likely a continuity error in the script writing.

[lauraforever]

Yeah, first Lois, then Lana. He's using them.

[ywm]

if clark was a buddy of mine in RL i would tell him "dude u must have thr.." but this is Smallville, future Superman... i mean BRING BACK CLOIS!

[TOMophilus]

The way I see it is like this: Clark is in the candy aisle at the grocery store. He knows that he shouldn't eat any because it's not particularly healthy and even when in small doses it's really expensive, so he walks along to get to the other end of the store when finally he sees his favorite candy - he hasn't had it in a year but today it's on sale - buy one, get one free - and they're selling the new and improved less sugar, fewer calories version and the company is going out of business (once the stock is gone, it's gone forever)... who could pass up their favorite candy?

He's been doing really well with the tasty, healthy organic snacks, and he was starting to lose the taste for this candy, but now that it's right in front of him, he can actually afford it and he may never get a chance to eat it again - if the factors that kept him from eating it are no longer an issue, why not? Maybe he'll kick himself if he doesn't buy it, or always wonder what if... it's just candy, but it makes him happy... So he caves in and buys the piece of candy, and now because he knows it's normally not healthy, that it is always expensive, an he may never get the chance to purchase it again, he'll treat his candy differently... he won't consume it like before, he'll try to make it last longer, he'll remember to brush his teeth, and he'll balance it with his other meals - he won't just eat candy all day... He knows one day he'll finish this bag of candy, but he'll enjoy it as long as it lasts - if that's a day, okay, but if it's a few weeks that's okay too...

Wouldn't you buy the candy, too?

I don't think it's Clark being a hypocrite, Clark's just trying to find happiness and balance. No, the relationship hasn't been "normal" or anything close to healthy in the past - but is it just Lana's (a lá, the candy's) fault... Well, no... because Clark was not following abiding by the rules of the food pyramid, so to speak, in that he wanted just that type of food and nothing else. The thing is, he knows better now, and he also realizes that it might not last and for all intensive purposes probably won't - but does a person ever begrudgingly eat a candy bar because he/she knows that once you're done chewing you have to swallow? No, you eat it and move on. ...But was I happy while it lasted? Yes. Am I kicking myself for my indulgences? No. Do I think it will be easier to continue on with a healthier path now that I've gotten this craving out of my system? Yes. Will I always kind of wish the company hadn't shut down? Of course, but I'm not going to let it rule me - at the end of the day it's just candy and there are more important things in the world. Besides, now that the candy I've always preferred is gone, I can try out something new - it's still candy so I have to be careful - but who knows, it may become my new favorite and never go out of stock...
Nicely said! Always good to see someone with some understanding. :)

[skylar]

What Clark really need to do is ask himself if he can trust Lana in the long run. She is untrustworthy I can't believe he still loves her.

[Sunny8]

Clark is BDA
Man, I always used to hate when people said that about Clark, but I think you're right.

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I couldn't take him seriously, did he not learn ANYTHING, I mean anything at all from Abyss? And I wonder if the writers check their own history, considering Chlark have already had the exact.same.conversation (about Lana no less) in Season six's Hydro

Chloe: Clark, before you unload your anger on me, can I just say that I think it's incredibly unfair that everyone trusts me to keep their secrets, and then they turn around and throw me attitude for keeping someone else secret. Look, I'm sorry that I had to take a two second breather from hiding the fact that your an alien from another planet to protect someone else for a change. God.....you had that coming ya know

Clark: For the record, I prefer intergalactic traveler over Alien from another planet

I think its just lazy writing on the writers part. Why think up something new when you can re-hash something old several times if necessary.

[zorasuperman]

lol smallvillerocks45
i love your comparision of the candy
i myself am a chocaholic :D

[LoveHurts38]

There were so many secrets and lies in this episode,I thought Chloe was the only non-hypocrite.

I know...Wasn't Lana the one tired of secrets to begin with , now, she is the one with all the secrets:rolleyes:

[HeartChakraBabe]

I couldn't take him seriously, did he not learn ANYTHING, I mean anything at all from Abyss? And I wonder if the writers check their own history, considering Chlark have already had the exact.same.conversation (about Lana no less) in Season six's Hydro

Chloe: Clark, before you unload your anger on me, can I just say that I think it's incredibly unfair that everyone trusts me to keep their secrets, and then they turn around and throw me attitude for keeping someone else's secret. Look, I'm sorry that I had to take a two second breather from hiding the fact that your an alien from another planet to protect someone else for a change. God.....you had that coming ya know

Clark: For the record, I prefer intergalactic traveler over Alien from another planet

YES! Thank you! This is what I was screaming about with my sister! It didn't penetrate that invincible skull of his, apparently.

I'm sorry, but I didn't have any respect for Clark this week. He was being a jerk, IMO, with his typical Barging In and Accusing Routine, and then the Clana thing just had me shaking my head with disappointment in him.

[Jack-El49]

The comic book version isn't. The SV version is.

[Kalic]

I don't think he's one, i just think he's beeing telling him self that so lana didn't leave him in vein.

[umm]

I'm sorry, but Clark has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. Like I have said before, this confusion was endearing and cute back in season 1. Now, it's just plain ridiculous. I'm a firm believer that what Clark needs right now is to be all by himself. In fact, I hope they won't even dare to have anything between Clois yet, because they have messed up pretty bad now.


I agree! He is beyond belief! Inmature to the point that I wish Jor-El would strip him of his powers permanently!

[Alexander III]

Clark has always been a hypocrite.

Yes :lol:
That's the reason why Lex ended his frdship w/ him in the first place. :D

[Tompouce]

Thanks, I was just about to report it :)

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On topic, Clark was having doubts. He regretted the kiss, but Chloe came and changed his mind about it. She helped him see it differently and now he wants Lana again.
Which was absolutely staggering when we remember what she told him last week. "Lana and you, it is always a story which goes wrong and don't hurt my cousin" and NOW we have a completely different Chloe. I really love this character but for once we have to wonder if it is not her who was hypocrite...:eek:
Anyway, it is not Clark or Chloe's fault, this epi was totally nonsense considering all the things said, done,...before.
Clark, OUR hero:D

[Diego*Chloe]

Stop blaming Chloe!! she just said that maybe he finaly grew up.......as he started to work at the Planet blah blah

Clark can think of himself Chle didnt say "yeah go after her and kiss and then you guys can have sex" she said jus to TALK to her i didnt know she has the power to control people minds xDDD

[Iluvgreen]

I think he just changed his mind.... but it was still kinda bad.

[smallvillerocks45]

Thanks TOMophilus and zorasuperman. :)

[skugers]

I think he wasn't really a hypocrite. I think he was more like confused. And still is, unfortunatelly :((

[Waiting4Superman]

Like a lot of you, I was pretty shocked and appalled by this episode, and in particular, the kiss/rekindling of Clana. So, because of my love for the show, and my desire to still believe in its story, I have decided to interpret the events like this:

At the end of the episode, Clark ends up following Lana's lead by agreeing with her - that what he wants is to go off together, making the world a better place. That it's his dream that they be together.

But he clarifies to her that it's a dream, not that he necessarily thinks that this ideal will ever come true. And TW actually does register a look of being conflicted about it, even as they go in for the kiss.

It seemed that Clark is actually conflicted about this decision.

Which brings me to my point: I think the hypocrisy is more in the fact that Clark knows it won't work out, yet goes in for the kiss anyway. As if in the back of his mind, he's reluctant to kiss Lana because he has unresolved feelings for Lois.

My interpretation is that he let's himself give in to the moment, because of his residual love for her borne out of their deeply complicated history. And because of the hotness of the woman standing in front of him.

Clark hasn't gotten any since the last episode that Lana had superpowers. He can't *be* with anyone (in the biblical sense) for fear of not being able to control his powers and hurting them, right? All I'm saying is, he has powers, now she has powers...

He is a hypocrite because he is supposed to be Superman, and his moral compass is supposed to direct him above and beyond giving in to his "needs." And if I am right about his uncertainty about his feelings for Lana, leading her on like that demonstrates that he has a lot of growing to do before he can actually BE Superman.

[justme_007]

Ok so tell me why this BDA said to Chloe a few minutes ago about lana holding him back. my mind is a little hazy, but he said something along the lines of "lana left, I got a job at the planet, started saving people," yada yada yada yada. and chloe is like you cant blame it all on lana or something like that. and THEN clark says at the end no lana youre not a distraction in my life

Hypocrite?

yes
no
or netural

He was just thinking about the reasons to leave lana. .. but he loves her :D if he could he would never let her go :rolleyes:

[The Krypton Knight]

I thought that that little speech made by Clark about progressing when Lana was gone was a tongue in cheek nod to the sentiments found on these and other message boards... And Chloe's response was the writers telling us their rationalization for Lana's return/storyline.

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Hey, cut it out with the BDA stuff... it offends some people, and I think we should respect that. :)


Yes, as a Big Dumb Alien, I was very offended. C'mon, are you guys serious? I'm all for respecting each other and our opinions, but this is a beloved term that has been on the boards since I started coming here a couple years ago. This PC stuff is getting a little out of hand, IMO.

Please don't ban me, lol.

[Mrs. Superman]

I thought that that little speech made by Clark about progressing when Lana was gone was a tongue in cheek nod to the sentiments found on these and other message boards... And Chloe's response was the writers telling us their rationalization for Lana's return/storyline.

Yeah I agree. Kinda like the "no flights no tights, he's no man of steel" line in Legion.

[The Krypton Knight]

Yeah I agree. Kinda like the "no flights no tights, he's no man of steel" line in Legion.

Exactly Mrs. Superman. I've seen alot more of this type of thing, this season in particular. It's kind of cool in a way, cause you know that they are at least hearing us (if not listening, lol).

[RedKRules]

Clark has always been a hypocrite.

Well .... how could he accuse Chloe of keeping secrets if he still didn´t have the guts to tell her about the mindbleaching is something I will never understand ... :rolleyes: ...

I really wished Clark would prove me wrong .... but until then I will consider him a hypocrite yes.

[Ellsbury]

Sometimes I am wondering if this guy is really going to become Superman... I mean as a long standing Smallville fan I still like our SVClark, it is just that I realize that the more he grows the farther he gets from my ideal of Superman. A man with a such a low moral compass he is just not the hero I loved when I was a kid.

[Mrs. Superman]

Exactly Mrs. Superman. I've seen alot more of this type of thing, this season in particular. It's kind of cool in a way, cause you know that they are at least hearing us (if not listening, lol).

Oh they are definitely not listening. :lol: But yea, there are times a few of their lines have sounded exactly like the criticism I've read on this board. I wonder how much of it (if any) they pay attention to.

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Well .... how could he accuse Chloe of keeping secrets if he still didn´t have the guts to tell her about the mindbleaching is something I will never understand ... :rolleyes: ...

I really wished Clark would prove me wrong .... but until then I will consider him a hypocrite yes.

Very true. You'd think he of all people would understand why sometimes someone may choose to keep a secret from him.

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Sometimes I am wondering if this guy is really going to become Superman... I mean as a long standing Smallville fan I still like our SVClark, it is just that I realize that the more he grows the farther he gets from my ideal of Superman. A man with a such a low moral compass he is just not the hero I loved when I was a kid.
Exactly. The pre-superman Clark had much better morals and had a stronger purpose of his life even if he didn't completely grasp it. In fact, from what I've read, pre-superman Clark is ambitious on his quest and cannot wait to leave Smallville behind. Not someone who holds on to it as it slips away from him. I realize this SVClark is a different take on the character but I always felt those were attributes to the character which were consistent throughout Clark's life, including his life as Superman. His ambition and his moral code which he held himself to just as much as he did others was an important quality he has. I haven't seen so much of this yet from SVClark, at least not consistently (although he has made great strides this year).

[red_sun1938]

Clark is BDA

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