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tbird4u

01-31-2009, 02:31 PM

I will, Yup, and only one more episode until lana leaves to show it as well. :D

dobby

01-31-2009, 02:32 PM

Sorry but I think the writers are fully aware of the significance of the DP rooftop scene. This scene was canon Supes/Lois and they put a Clana scene there because they are trying to say that LANA is Clark's true love.

The thing is that they are under the delusional that Clana is this great, epic romance. They want Clana as endgame. They want a Superman/Lana romance. They don't see how damaging Lana is to Clark. They don't see how Lana treating Clark like dirt but Clark panting for more is damaging not only for Clark as a self-respecting MAN, but for him to become Superman.

IMO, Smallville's Clark and Lana deserve each other. May this be the last season. I can't bear to see Clark more castrated than he already is.

umm

01-31-2009, 02:33 PM

I will, Yup, and only one more episode until lana leaves to show it as well. :D

Thanks, now I can be merry once again!!!!:)

Sunny8

01-31-2009, 02:55 PM

I said this on another thread but I think the reason they used the roof of the DP for Clark and Lana is because it showed how their relationship needs to piggy back off of the Lois/Clark legacy to have any meaning. Lana and Clark really don't have a place together (an "our place" like "our song") that is reminiscent of them. When people see the roof of DP they automatically think Clark and Lois. Its just like when people think about Superman they immediately think about Lois and know nothing about Lana.

What place reminds people of Clark and Lana? No where. Not even Clark's loft reminds me of Clark with Lana because when I think of the loft I just think of Clark being there by himself or with Shelby, Pete, Chloe, Lois Alicia, Kyla, Lana, Oliver, his mother, his father and/or random other people that find their way there. Clark and Lana in fact do not have too much together and they were more apart than together. Clark pined for Lana in seasons 1, 2 (together 2 days, maybe), 3 ,4, 5 (together a few months? then broke up again), 6, 7 (lived together a few months and still couldn't make the relationship work). In all of that time there is no place I look at that reminds me of Clark and Lana. So of course the writer's had to steal from Clark and Lois or else they would have nothing. Did they ever do anything together or go anywhere together? They don't even have a place where they kissed unless they go to that oak tree that TW french kissed KK under in season 2 towards the end. The DP scene really showed how sadly lacking the Clark and Lana relationship is:lol:.

Whatever Clark does with Lana now he did with Lois first. On SV he even lived with Lois before he ever lived with Lana. Lois was created way before Lana in the comics. Compared to the love he has for Lois later, Lana is merely like Clark's little crush. The only reason that it appears to be so much now is because it is happening in the present. Soon it will be just a blip on Superman's past.

Clana4Life

01-31-2009, 05:40 PM

Everytime I think of Clana I hear Jason Mraz's song "You and I Both" in my head after seeing that vid with them. I think it's a great Clana song which matches a great Clana kiss.

Promise

01-31-2009, 06:24 PM

it was huge slap in the face. it is downright blasmphmy for ps3 using the iconic DP rooftop that is meant for clois and gave it to clana:mad:

As Homer Simpson would say: TOO LATE!!!

Now that spot will always be Clark and Lana's first. Anyways, the show is Smalliville, b4 Superman and Lois on the DP. Enjoy the show, I am.....:D

Sunny8

01-31-2009, 08:54 PM

Now that spot will always be Clark and Lana's first.

No it won't. Lana and Clark are just a blip of what Lois and Clark are and have been in history. Not even on SV is that scene reminiscent of Clark and Lana but of Clark and Lois. It's like the writer's have to go back in history to change events to fit Lana into the place that Lois has occupied. They are trying too hard and it kind of makes you wonder why. Is Lana that forgettable as a person in her own right that she has to become Lois? How sad for Lana.

lana 9

01-31-2009, 08:54 PM

it was ok

boingo

01-31-2009, 09:36 PM

Here Clana fans. Enjoy the kiss in slow-motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2na_kVBxOA&feature=channel_page

That was sexy hot!
Although no slo-mo is needed; the kiss is beautiful and passionate just the way it is.

malft

01-31-2009, 10:16 PM

Okay, so now I have to sell my car because I can't do it there because my old girl put out there?

malft

01-31-2009, 10:27 PM

Clark isn't tied down. Why not hit the High School Sweetheart again- for old times sake.

celita

01-31-2009, 10:35 PM

As Homer Simpson would say: TOO LATE!!!

Now that spot will always be Clark and Lana's first. Anyways, the show is Smalliville, b4 Superman and Lois on the DP. Enjoy the show, I am.....:D

Actually it was Clark and Lois first....on Crimson. Sorry in bursting your bubble of screwing the Cloisers

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

I doubt the writers put so much symbolism into the situations. Since the situations and scenes are so different, I don’t think that the Clana DP scene was stolen from Clois.
Thank you for this:)

Imzadia

02-01-2009, 04:37 AM

I posted this in the "Don't Give Up" Thread, + some others, but I also think that it's appropriate to post it here as well.

In as much as I've regained most of my 'Smallville' Equilibrium back and have somewhat emotionally recovered since my initial viewing of "Power" last Thursday night, I'd like to Change my initial Negative opinion of the episode. I admit, I was in Shock and felt deep Grief over the events that unfolded in this episode, but I was mostly Blindsided by the 'Clana'. It was like someone had punched me in the gut and knocked all of the wind out of me, or stuck a pin in my bubble and burst it unexpectedly. I, too, was totally Deflated yet a bit Hysterical, but I’m proud to say that I’m coherent once again.

Initially, at the beginning of the episode when Chloe found Clark at the farm rewatching Lana's 'Good-Bye' DVD, I saw Clark as someone who was regaining some Rationality after being overwhelmed with the Break up and Loss of his romantic relationship with Lana. In another Thread, I elaborated about Clark's possible feelings and reaction to seeing Danny Turpin with his family still 'in love' with his wife, and Clark's longing for that type of 'normalcy' in his life, maybe triggering his nostalgic feelings for what he always thought that he wanted with Lana, which seemed to be denied him. Clark experiences the Same feelings as us Humans, so naturally, he wants the same things we want out of life, except that he has an enormous Responsibility to the world.

Today I finally felt able to rewatch "Power", twice. Clark really Was recognizing that he was "revisiting feelings from the past" ...because he wants that type of Intimacy in a Committed relationship with his 'Counterpart/True One', and Lana is all he's known as far as ‘Being In Love’. Before he had a chance to talk over what he and Lana were feeling for each other, like he intended when he went to Chloe's apartment to talk things over with Lana as Chloe suggested, he found that the apartment had been broken into and Tess already there. "Power" suddenly became a story wherein Clark once again felt that he had to RESCUE Lana from Lex's clutches; The 'relationship' talk forgotten.

Allison Mack did a Wonderful job in her directorial debut with "Power". IMO, The story flowed very well with seamless editing with the Flashbacks and integrating computer video images with real-time images. It was suspenseful as the 'Details' were revealed and Clark finally figured out what Lana’s true intentions were. He knew that her Goal wasn't Only to destroy the technology so that Lex wouldn't possess it. He didn't seem to be at all happy; rather he was frightened for her. When he witnessed Lana performing a 'superheroic' act as she escaped from the Prometheus Lab, Clark was too shocked to even follow her after she Smiled at him triumphantly. It was Weird that Lana Supersped away from him. Clark was even more worried even though he'd already figured out that she wanted to use the 'experimental procedure' on herself and had obviously already done so.

Clark was still searching for evidence of her whereabouts at the DP when Lana contacted him and called him to meet her on the roof. Yes, he was relieved to see her, but he was concerned for her well-being. He knows from experience that humans wielding sudden superhuman powers are Dangerous and Destructive. Yet, according to Imra of LoSH, Lana creates a heroic future for herself that leaves behind an illustrious legend in 'future' history.

Still, at the core of Lana's intentions, Not wanting to be a Victim again, Not wanting Lex to wield such power, Lana also ambitiously Craved Power and Glory for herself. That attitude alone doesn't seem Compatible with who Clark is and is reminiscent of Oliver's mistake in judgment in S6's "Rage". He wanted to be like Clark, too. Yet, Lana thinks that her actions have 'Fixed' all of the things that may have kept her and Clark apart. IMO, her actions were IMMATURE and IMPULSIVE, even though she'd planned it for months. Yet, they could also be called SELFLESS, HEROIC, and DARING. : \ IMO, Lana seemed to be somewhat mentally unstable and in dire need of intensive Psychotherapy.

Clark WILL always have feelings for Lana, but while she was smiling too much and spewing how they were "equals" now, and they could be this 'super' couple working together saving the world, ...there was WORRY and DOUBT in Clark's eyes. He warned her that her 'too-good-to-be-true' ideal life may be a Dream that can't come true. However, he couldn't Resist her when SHE INITIATED the Kiss between them this time, unlike the last time at the Talon. In my Re-evaluation of "Power", IMHO of course, it was a Great episode. It was a Heroic Adventure with some Gory details Mysteriously tied up with a Love Story teetering on a tightrope that tied up many loose ends. What more could we ask for from Smallville? ...Except maybe some Iconic Clois Respect?

Everyone feels that Clark has 'Betrayed' some loyalty, especially when it comes to Lois. I'm an AVID Clois fan/supporter, but over the course of this series, I've come to know and love Clark Kent, too. He's very slow when it comes to change and stubbornly clings to what he thinks is Right. Granted, he IS anchored in his moral upbringing (no matter what some Accuse) and was taught that making a commitment to the person he believes he should spend his life with should Not be taken lightly. In his mind (or maybe in his heart, too,) he's not fully over Lana yet, or he believes that he'd be a 'shallow' person if he was.

IMO, at this point, Clark’s not sure What he's feeling ...other than Lonely. In past years, concerning the intimacies of his ‘personal’ life, it was his parents' guidance he depended on, then Chloe’s, when she wasn't see-sawing her opinions, who helped Clark by giving him advice and encouragement; but it's been Lois Lane who has Consistently been the one who helps give him Clarity. I believe he'll figure that out, too.

These 5 episodes that KK had Obligated in her contract, cut short by the WGA strike last year, was a means for the writers to give Clark and Lana a chance to find suitable Closure to their relationship. I'm sure they gave consideration to 'Appeasing' all 'Shippers' as well as to honor the 'Character' of Lana Lang. Lana left Abruptly with Clark believing that he was still deeply in love with her and feeling broken-hearted. Her departure was mysterious, but he thought she had done it willingly. Lana's story Arc will tie up all those loose ends, and after "Requiem", we'll see the last of Clana.

I'm sure PS3/TPTB were Well Aware that if they told a story that made it appear that Clark all but Abandoned the 'stirrings' of romance that were just beginning between Clark and Lois the moment Lana returned for a 'Few' episodes, that they would jeopardize losing the viewership of all of Smallville's CLOIS supporters; NOT A GOOD THING FOR 'THEM'. I don't think that they are Dumb or Inconsiderate as that. PLEASE, TRUST THEM. Season 8 has been Great! THEY MUST HAVE A PLAN. Just because We can't figure out what that may be doesn't mean we should GIVE UP ON THE SERIES.

I sadly admit that I once again feel nervous since watching the Extended "Requiem" preview video. However, I Still have Hope.

Kid Collins

02-01-2009, 05:33 AM

What place reminds people of Clark and Lana?

I'm not territorial when it comes to places for Clana. I know some are but I could care less. It's more the special moments that Clana shared whether it's the loft, Clark's bedroom, the Talon, Lana's apartment, the Oak Tree, Chandler's Field and now the roof of the DP. All of those places remind me of Clana.

It's not the place but the memorable moments they've create in them.

They don't even have a place where they kissed unless they go to that oak tree that TW french kissed KK under in season 2 towards the end. The DP scene really showed how sadly lacking the Clark and Lana relationship is

Actually I was so happy with their kiss that it could've taken place anywhere. I thought it was funny when I came here and found pages of complaining about where the kiss took place. Of course I had to joke about it.

But what did make the DP scene so great was how beautifully Allison filmed that scene.

Whatever Clark does with Lana now he did with Lois first. On SV he even lived with Lois before he ever lived with Lana.

I wouldn't be showing that off. Clark and Lois lived together yes, as brother and sister along with mom and dad Kents. Lana lived with Clark as his GF without the parental units. So different.

Lois was created way before Lana in the comics.

I'm not a comic book reader. I could give a crap about when Lois or Lana were created. All I know is what happened in SV mythos. And Lana comes out waaay ahead of Lois Lane in this show.

Compared to the love he has for Lois later, Lana is merely like Clark's little crush.

Too bad we won't see it in Smallville. And SV is the longest running show ever to focus on Clark Kent. And for the past 7 years, it's Clark and his ever enduring love for Lana Lang. And it's being broadcast all over the world and will live on forever on DVD's.
I think after this show, Lana Lang will definitely not just be a blip in Superman history.

Actually it was Clark and Lois first....on Crimson. Sorry in bursting your bubble of screwing the Cloisers

So what is all the complaining about? Why are some people so angry about the Clana DP scene?

Kid Collins

02-01-2009, 05:38 AM

Although no slo-mo is needed; the kiss is beautiful and passionate just the way it is.

I agree. Watching it in regular speed you can see Clark and Lana reacting to the kiss in real time. And that's really hot.

But slo-mo is also good.

cloisthelegendbegins

02-01-2009, 07:11 AM

Sorry but I think the writers are fully aware of the significance of the DP rooftop scene. This scene was canon Supes/Lois and they put a Clana scene there because they are trying to say that LANA is Clark's true love.

Which is the biggest problem I have with that scene. My gut reaction wasn't OMG ANOTHER KISS! It was NOT the roof of the DP!!! And until someone can come up with an equal amount of comic/TV/movie and animated series examples of this having been done before with Lana and Clark I will still consider it a slur on a love story I have adored for two decades. The DP roof is as synonymous with Lois and Clark as the balcony scene with Romeo and Juliet. Has anyone ever tried to re-write Shakespeare and put another woman on that balcony? No. And why? Because you can take artistic licence with a legendary love story but you DO NOT disrespect it. And that's exactly what Slavkin/Swimmer - and I'm sorry, but AM too - did with this scene. They disrespected a love story adored by millions and thumbed it in the face of the Smallville fans who understood it's significance. Any other place and it's simply another Clark and Lana kiss that those who dislike the relationship have to endure. Setting it where they did made it something else entirely.

The thing is that they are under the delusional that Clana is this great, epic romance. They want Clana as endgame. They want a Superman/Lana romance. They don't see how damaging Lana is to Clark. They don't see how Lana treating Clark like dirt but Clark panting for more is damaging not only for Clark as a self-respecting MAN, but for him to become Superman.

I bolded the fort part of this because I agree and disagree. They have wanted from the very beginning to show us the significance and importance of Clark's relationship with Lana and how it helped shape the man he becomes. However, by changing Lana's character to suit a particular story-line in each season they made her inconsistent. Any early chances they had of showing us that this was a healthy relationship for either of them was ruined with later seasons until the point where, particularly in season seven, it was hard to see their relationship as anything but destructive for both characters. So, I for one ain't buying the 'epic love' angle. It's tragic already, it's been bittersweet in places, it's been downright cringe worthy in places and in Power, we're finally shown that Lana's insecurities and thirst for power together with Clark's blinkers and an inability to learn from his mistakes, have drawn them back into a relationship that is STILL unhealthy for both of them. A super-suit doesn't make the boo-boo all better like some kind of DNA encrusted band-aid. It does what has been done time and time again ad nausea with this relationship and covers up all the problems that still exist.

IMO, Smallville's Clark and Lana deserve each other. May this be the last season. I can't bear to see Clark more castrated than he already is.

Which is where I am right about now. And I don't have high hopes of next week changing my mind.

I said this on another thread but I think the reason they used the roof of the DP for Clark and Lana is because it showed how their relationship needs to piggy back off of the Lois/Clark legacy to have any meaning. Lana and Clark really don't have a place together (an "our place" like "our song") that is reminiscent of them. When people see the roof of DP they automatically think Clark and Lois. Its just like when people think about Superman they immediately think about Lois and know nothing about Lana.

This kinda brings up that old debate of Clark Kent on Smallville NOT being Superman YET. One that I've debated before from the POV of apart from the recognizable suit and the glasses and the flying, he already IS recognizable as the man we know as Superman. I'm not alone in this either and found a HILARIOUS cartoon only yesterday that demonstrates this: http://www.**************.com/fansites/MediaGeekComics/news/?a=6099

Thing is, everything that Clark says or does at this late stage of the game goes towards the man he is inside. It forms his character. And by telling us after seven and a half years, with maybe less than half a season, maybe a season and a bit to go that his love for Lana is this 'epic' it deserves to be placed in the minds of viewers on a par with Lois Lane and Clark Kent (as demonstrated by that shot of the DP) they have said theirs is the great love story. They have said that Lana having superpowers makes her more worthy of Clark than she was before. They have said it's alright for her to have done what she has to be with him and that taking revenge on Lex along the way was justified. So not only is revenge good - something the Superman I love would disagree with. A human woman is not enough for Clark - despite the fact Clark wanted so badly to be 'normal' and live as normal a life as possible and despite the fact the Lois and Clark love story had told us that her being human grounded Superman, reminded him of his love for humanity, and that ANY OF US were good enough to be loved for WHO WE ARE not WHAT WE ARE. It flies in the face of not only things Smallville canon has told us in the past, but a great many things that are part of the Superman legacy.

And that to me is unacceptable.

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Okay, so now I have to sell my car because I can't do it there because my old girl put out there?

The second you can bring an example of a legendary, seventy year old love story attached to an epically romantic scene in the back seat of someone's car it's completely irrelevant.

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Now that spot will always be Clark and Lana's first. Anyways, the show is Smalliville, b4 Superman and Lois on the DP.

So Clark saving lives as the red and blue blur and working at the DP with Lois Lane is unrecognisable from the original story is it? If Clark wasn't already working at the DP with Lois Lane then there wouldn't have been a rooftop at the DP for this scene to be shot, would there? Let's just put things into perspective shall we.

And for Clana fans, if that's the 'we were here first' attitude they want to take then fine, I'll continue to stomp my feet and say it was done FIRST with Lois and Clark on TV, film, in animated cartoons and comic books for decade upon decade before some people were even born or knew who Clark Kent and Superman was. As far as I'm concerned the Smallville showrunners spat on that legacy in a purposeful and conscious manner. If they continue the way I suspect they will in the next episode then they'll have relegated Smallville to the position of an AU in the mind of this Superman fan - and a poor one at that. To me, Lana Lang was never a mere blip in Superman's history. She had her place and it held value in the bigger picture. Smallville elevated it to a point where it was made out to be more important than their CENTRAL CHARACTER and that's bad writing for Clark, for Lana and it shadows everything that comes after the end of their relationship IMO. They've created a huge problem with this story arc that will take a miracle to come back from as far as I'm concerned. But if we're saying it's fine to screw up the remainder of the story so long as one part of fandom is happy...

I'm not territorial when it comes to places for Clana. I know some are but I could care less. It's more the special moments that Clana shared whether it's the loft, Clark's bedroom, the Talon, Lana's apartment, the Oak Tree, Chandler's Field and now the roof of the DP. All of those places remind me of Clana.

It's not the place but the memorable moments they've create in them.

I agree with the bolded part. Because that's just the thing for me and many other Lois and Clark Superman fans. Many, MANY memorable moments have been created for Lois and Clark on the rooftop of the Daily Planet. So many in fact that it has become as ingrained in the hearts of Lois and Clark fans as the names Lois and Clark have been irrevocably entwined in Popular culture. By filming the Lana and Clark kiss on the roof of the Daily Planet and lighting it the way they did and panning out to give us the epic picture of the Daily Planet globe, they gave the scene an importance on a par with the history that went before it. And they KNEW THAT when it was shot that way. IMO there wouldn't be as many people unhappy about the location if it hadn't been so immediately recognisable.

Actually I was so happy with their kiss that it could've taken place anywhere. I thought it was funny when I came here and found pages of complaining about where the kiss took place. Of course I had to joke about it.

And the part in bold just makes it all the worse. Because that's how a great many of us feel. It COULD have taken place anywhere and Lana fans would have been happy. By doing what they did, they did it at the expense of another fan group. It's insulting quite frankly.

But what did make the DP scene so great was how beautifully Allison filmed that scene.

This is where I'll respectfully disagree. And this is why I hold her partly responsible, particularly if it wasn't in the script. By filming it as beautifully as she did, and by giving it that stunning, epic feel, it lays even more importance on it. A kiss on the rooftop of the DP is bad enough - shoving in our faces how important that location is and wrapping it up in an epic bow is insult upon insult. Why film it that way if it wasn't considered important enough to spend the money on? Why put so much emphasis on having the Daily Planet globe in shot? Why have a sweeping, epic skyline and a rising sun?

It's a kick in the face. Pure and simple and INSULTING AS HELL.

I think after this show, Lana Lang will definitely not just be a blip in Superman history.

I think it's sad you considered her that in the first place. And even sadder that the show-runners felt they had to rectify this misconception by tearing down the HERO of the show to make people believe it.

For me, they can never replace the Lois and Clark relationship I've loved in every other form of the media. Right now SVClark is a poor imitation of the Clark Kent I adore, when from episodes 1-12 of this season he was getting closer and closer to becoming that man. I'll wait to see if he can be redeemed, but I would NEVER had built ANY character up at his expense. As someone said on another thread, if Oliver had done what Lana did to get the power suit, this more mature Clark would have argued with him and disagreed with what he'd done. But since it's Lana, Clark has no problem with it? All is forgiven? He CAN be with her now that she's superpowered like him?! To me that says he has double standards, blinders around Lana and that Lana felt she wasn't good enough for him before - if he jumps into bed with her next week Clark is plainly agreeing with this. As a Clark fan, I'm not happy about that - if I was a Lana fan I wouldn't be either, heck even as someone who likes this more mature Lana better than she liked some of the Lana's of old, I STILL don't like it. Like I said before, IMO you don't love someone simply for WHAT they are - you love them for WHO they are. And that to me has crap all to do with having superpowers.

suzieQ

02-01-2009, 08:40 AM

I can't get over how truly passionate this kiss is! Fast or Slow.....this kiss personifies the LOVE Clark and Lana have. The kiss goes on and on......but what I like the most is how Clark just squeezes Lana to him....he wraps his entire arm around her waist and then reaches his arm and cradles her head in his hand. All the while moving deeper into the kiss......Lana also wraps both her arms around his neck and caresses his face. It is like they are melting into each other!

This whole scene.....basked in the warm glow of a sunrise........PERFECTION!

This was a GREAT KISS!

dru-zod2501

02-01-2009, 08:48 AM

Okay, so now I have to sell my car because I can't do it there because my old girl put out there?
:rotfl:

Just brilliant!!

Kid Collins

02-01-2009, 09:45 AM

I agree with the bolded part. Because that's just the thing for me and many other Lois and Clark Superman fans. Many, MANY memorable moments have been created for Lois and Clark on the rooftop of the Daily Planet. So many in fact that it has become as ingrained in the hearts of Lois and Clark fans as the names Lois and Clark have been irrevocably entwined in Popular culture. By filming the Lana and Clark kiss on the roof of the Daily Planet and lighting it the way they did and panning out to give us the epic picture of the Daily Planet globe, they gave the scene an importance on a par with the history that went before it. And they KNEW THAT when it was shot that way. IMO there wouldn't be as many people unhappy about the location if it hadn't been so immediately recognisable.

But those memorable moments happened in the comics. You still have that iconic DP rooftop there just not in SV.

SV isn't following the comics. If they did, Lois shouldn't be a part of Clark's life at this point in his life. But she's here. That's SV's mythology.

If you can accept Lois being here in SV then you have to accept that this show will not always follow the comics.

You can't have it both ways. Either you accept what TPTB are writing for Clois whether it's iconic or not OR you should be protesting that she's here at all because it doesn't follow the comics.

I think it's sad you considered her that in the first place. And even sadder that the show-runners felt they had to rectify this misconception by tearing down the HERO of the show to make people believe it.

I think you misunderstood what I said. I was responding to Sunny's post about Lana being an insignificant blip in Superman history. And I said with the long popularity of this show, I seriously doubt Lana is unknown now.

Promise

02-01-2009, 10:29 AM

Too bad we won't see it in Smallville. And SV is the longest running show ever to focus on Clark Kent. And for the past 7 years, it's Clark and his ever enduring love for Lana Lang. And it's being broadcast all over the world and will live on forever on DVD's.
I think after this show, Lana Lang will definitely not just be a blip in Superman history.

I HUGS YOU!!! Perfectly said

thehenry89

02-01-2009, 10:33 AM

It was sacralige.

I reserve the right to be upset about that abhorant blasphemous garbage.

Iluvgreen

02-01-2009, 10:39 AM

That was the Clois place first because that is where they first took a "flight" if that's what you want to call it. And I'm glad that Lana will be gone in a week.

thehenry89

02-01-2009, 10:47 AM

Okay, so now I have to sell my car because I can't do it there because my old girl put out there?

My best friend trashed an entire bedroom set cuz her husband and his ex "Put Out" there.

darkone

02-01-2009, 10:58 AM

They also had Lois walk in Lana stylish in Clana territory (Loft), so it's only fair we get the same treat.

obsessedwithsv

02-01-2009, 11:00 AM

If they wanted to use this scene as some sort of foreboding that Clana is doomed, they could've just as easily have used the roof of the Talon or even the barn instead of the iconic DP rooftop. It was a slap in the face and I don't understand what PS3 are doing. On the other hand, I agree with Madelyne that we should have faith in them with this season being as good as it is minus the Clana crap obviously. I sincerely hope they have a plan; a really good one. Let's face it, something pretty significant must happen to Clark going off spoilers for Infamous if he is to look lovingly into "Lois'" eyes; enough to make Chloe realise just how much he's fallen for her.

darkone

02-01-2009, 11:07 AM

Yeah another lightswitch, which is the usual routine when it comes to Lois/Clois. :/

Promise

02-01-2009, 11:19 AM

So Clark saving lives as the red and blue blur and working at the DP with Lois Lane is unrecognisable from the original story is it? If Clark wasn't already working at the DP with Lois Lane then there wouldn't have been a rooftop at the DP for this scene to be shot, would there? Let's just put things into perspective shall we.

Perspective? :eek:lol.:lol: I laugh because I think about the million threads of Clana hating on this board, and how many people(Clois) fans won't watch Smallville anymore depending on how Requiem is played out, well the Clana in Requiem.

But to your question, no there probably wouldn't have been that particular scene shot on the DP, but then again, like you said, Superman had a lot of history created way before we were born so I'm sure the idea of the DP being filmed on the show of Smallville would of happened anyways, oh wait, it did and we have a scene of Clark and Lana kissing.;)

Even though you mentioned a lot about the many of shows, comics, animated cartoon etc., of Superman, there was never one about his up bringing. So Smallville was created and boom here we are on the 8th Season, mind you, Lois and Clark didn't last too long by the way, but my point is that this show is before Clark and Lois and before he wears the red cape and after 8yrs and as a Superman fan, the writers(all of them) have stayed true to that, which is keeping Clark at Clark. Sure there have been times I been frustrated with Clark's character on many episodes, but that's the growing pains the writers are telling.

But now all of a sudden Smallville sucks because were not getting enough Clois???I'm a Superman fan period and I love good storytelling and good discussions, and as much of pain it was to watch Reckoning(2nd half) and to put up with the failed Lexana story arc, I'm still here. Its very sad to come on a site where Superman fans can't even have a decent discussion due to their dislike of a shipper aka Clana.

I mean, outside of the "shipping" of the couples we like, it still comes down to Clark Kents story being told and if Clark Kent/Superman's young love life was a long struggle, then so be it. Again, if you have read the comics and all the history of Superman that you mentioned, you saw the name Lana and Smallville was the opportunity to explore that. And from my understanding, Lana was in the Lois and Clark seris as well.

As a Clana fan, and forever I will be;), all I and other Clana's want is just the proper closure because we ALL know that there is Lois Lane. Clana has been written at times horribly and its actually refreshing to finally see that passion again before it ends, and this week, yes Lana will be done, but the character sure is leaving her mark and its obvious on this board site.

And in my conclusion, do you think I'm going to announce or yell "I'M NOT WATCHING SMALLVILLE ANYMORE" after Requiem?, of course not, then all the talk of me being a Superman fan is just talk. Its about Clark Kent ripping the shirt open, huge S symbol, (Superman Theme music).

Tompouce

02-01-2009, 11:27 AM

Watch that scene again.

It's beautifully framed.

The Daily Planet Globe is spinning...

Clark and Lana are kissing....

The sun is setting....

THE SUN IS SETTING!? Gosh, that's kind of, um, I don't know SYMBOLIC, mabye?

Stop looking at the trees and see the forest.

Clark and Lana are almost done. That scene shows it.

Later, skaters.
For sure it is almost ended. Look and listen to Clark : he has doubts, you can see it in his eyes, On his face when Lana asked him if it is what he wants to be with her forever...She was forced to tell him "uneless, it is not what you want". Even her feels something is wrong...

jmf1977

02-01-2009, 11:30 AM

I have been a huge SV fan since the beginning but I have not made alot of posts, as you can see.

But this entire sequence of Lana's final arc is really and the fan reaction is interesting. After reading all of the posts in this thread I would agree and disagree with some things IMHO.

The show initially took place in SV (obviously) so I have no problem with Lana Lang being a major part of young Clark's early development. I do think that these 2 were really in love even though they had lots of obstacles and bad writing and lack of character development moments. I understand why these 2 never really were "together" during the show - it's all due to drama or what TPTB perceive to be drama.

I can't see the reasoning of some that suggests Clark was never in love with Lana or that he put her on a pedestal and can't really see her for who she is. Don't get me wrong, I think Lana's super powered suit is a mistake. I think Lana should have been brought back to finally get proper closure and to end her time on SV as her and Clark being friends, confidantes on good terms.

Conversely, at this point in the series, there is nothing that leads me to believe that CK is in love with Lois. They have not and are not dating; they really are not shown to spend alot of personal time together (other than working at the DP). Honestly, I'm not sure why Lois is shown to be head over heels with Clark at this juncture.

I'm not a Clana shipper but have enjoyed their storyline (most of the time). I'm not entirely convinced that if this is the route Chloe would have taken, it would receive all of this negative fan attention - JMO.

Finally, in thinking about the end of Power on the rooftop of the DP with the sun rising, I think this is symbolic to maybe show that now Lana and Clark are equals and that this is a new beginning for these 2. We know this will be short lived since Lana is gone after the next episode. I do feel for all the fans that suggest this is sacrilege and the rooftop of the DP is off limits to Clana...I was taken aback at this ending too.

If this is the end of the show and no season 9, then I think TPTB will have something else in mind for Lois and Clark finally getting together. Since they chose this location for Clana, the only "epic" situation, IMO, would be for Clark and Lois to have their first truly romantic moment in the sky. Think about it...in the Clana scene Clark is just Clark. He is not yet Superman. I think this part of the scene was symbolic - to show that yes he may be the "red blue blur" but Clark has yet to really put himself out there in Metropolis tights and all. He is still hiding. I don't think this means Lana is holding him back.

So I think since TPTB gave us Clana on the rooftop of the DP with the sun rising (also note that there are leaves on the rooftop floor. How can you have tree leaves on the roof of one of the tallest buildings in a major metropolitan city is beyond me...another small thing that seemed to slip past the producers), the only fitting ending for Clois is in the sky and Lois knowing he is Superman not just the red blue blur.

Sunny8

02-01-2009, 11:41 AM

To me, Lana Lang was never a mere blip in Superman's history.

Lana is a mere blip in Superman's history to me because frankly I did not know who the heck she was and didn't care. When I saw how SV was putting so much importance on her I looked her up but I still didn't care.

They have wanted from the very beginning to show us the significance and importance of Clark's relationship with Lana and how it helped shape the man he becomes. However, by changing Lana's character to suit a particular story-line in each season they made her inconsistent. Any early chances they had of showing us that this was a healthy relationship for either of them was ruined with later seasons until the point where, particularly in season seven, it was hard to see their relationship as anything but destructive for both characters.

And this is why I don't care who Lana is. She has been written so inconsistently over the years and has truly not been a good person for Clark to be in a relationship with. Their relationship was toxic not healthy.

So, I for one ain't buying the 'epic love' angle. It's tragic already, it's been bittersweet in places, it's been downright cringe worthy in places and in Power, we're finally shown that Lana's insecurities and thirst for power together with Clark's blinkers and an inability to learn from his mistakes, have drawn them back into a relationship that is STILL unhealthy for both of them. A super-suit doesn't make the boo-boo all better like some kind of DNA encrusted band-aid. It does what has been done time and time again ad nausea with this relationship and covers up all the problems that still exist.

This is why I'm not buying the epic love story either. Lana does not know what power is and surely does not understand who Clark is. What makes Clark powerful is what he is on the inside, his strong moral character, not his abilities.

In 'Power' the writers made it seem like Clark has been wanting a superpowered version of himself to be with all along, even though, in the 8 years we have seen him that is not want he wanted. He was seeking normalcy in a relationship. This is why I think Lana and Clark's relationship would ultimately fail if it were to continue. By making herself into what she thinks is his "equal", Lana has totally made herself into something Clark did not and, really, could not want.

Mickey_Bickey

02-01-2009, 11:43 AM

These last 4 episodes have been a disaster, and this scene took the cake. I am looking forward very much in to Requiem when I am convinced that Clark Kent will finally come to his senses.

This scene having Clark kiss Lana on top of the DP was an abomination. Any true Superman fan knows that Lois Lane is the lengendary love interest of Superman. Lana Lang was the love interest of Superboy. Unfortunately, Clark has reverted back to Superboy even wearing his classic high school attire.

This kiss was an insult to true Superman/Lois Lane fans everywhere, and just adds insult to injury to the horrendous storyline of these past few episodes.

Annie, well said as usual. I believe there are alot of people including myself who were Superman fans well before Smallville was an idea.

I agree, Karine that this is the end, and the doubt in Clark's face was not coinsidence. He knows deep down that he may not be want to be with her, but she's the 'safe zone'. He's living in the past a little in more ways than one.

I believe Requiem will be his waking up and growing up. We can then look forward to continue watching and enjoying the season as it had been before this dreadful arc that only serves to display Lana Lang as a hero, something she's not and will never be.

scifigirl

02-01-2009, 11:49 AM

I am pretty sure that all they were really thinking about was how the scene would look visually and maybe the symbolism of the sunrise.

Tompouce

02-01-2009, 11:52 AM

I agree, Karine that this is the end, and the doubt in Clark's face was not coinsidence. He knows deep down that he may not be want to be with her, but she's the 'safe zone'. He's living in the past a little in more ways than one.
I believe Requiem will be his waking up and growing up. We can then look forward to continue watching and enjoying the season as it had been before this dreadful arc that only serves to display Lana Lang as a hero, something she's not and will never be.
ITA Michèle. Your "safe zone" is the exact word. It explains very well Clark's character. It is one of his weakness but to grow up we have to make our own experiences and we need above all to know we have made everything to make something works. After that, we are able to be in peace with ourselves and with our future decisions. Clark is in the middle, he has to try a last time and after he will be sure he can let it go...I am confident:)

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I am pretty sure that all they were really thinking about was how the scene would look visually and maybe the symbolism of the sunrise.
Honestly, I didn't think of this before but the idea is very good:)

cloisthelegendbegins

02-01-2009, 01:08 PM

But those memorable moments happened in the comics. You still have that iconic DP rooftop there just not in SV.

SV isn't following the comics. If they did, Lois shouldn't be a part of Clark's life at this point in his life. But she's here. That's SV's mythology.

If you can accept Lois being here in SV then you have to accept that this show will not always follow the comics.

You can't have it both ways. Either you accept what TPTB are writing for Clois whether it's iconic or not OR you should be protesting that she's here at all because it doesn't follow the comics.

Okay. Here's the thing. I'm not as rigid on the mythos as some people might immediately assume I am from my user name. But there are certain things I would expect. To me, there's no Smallville without the story that came before. And the story that came before gave the show-runners a base line to work towards at the end of the show. The show can't even be considered an Alternate Universe unless there is a universe for it to be alternate TO. And I'm not holding every single thing they do up against the comics or movies or TV or books or the animated version either, because every version takes a certain amount of artistic licence. I take what I consider to be the basics and then I hold the characterization of the people on the show up against it's OWN canon.

So for me the basics from the mythos going into the Pilot were:

Clark Kent is from Kryton, has Superpowers, is raised in town called Smallville by Jonathan and Martha Kent and will one day become a hero known as Superman.

Lex Luthor will become Superman's nemesis.

Lana Lang was Clark Kent's first love.

That was my baseline and what I expected to get from a show telling the story of a young Clark Kent. Everything else I let Smallville tell me and I judged it on how it was told. If they'd had someone else apart from Clark have hints of wearing a red cape and a big 'S' on their chest, I'd have been miffed, yes. Because to me those things belong to Superman. But that didn't happen, so it was a moot point. So I watched to see how the characters were written as they got closer to the end game.

Then they introduced Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen, so I added to my list of expectations;

Lois Lane will become a journalist and one day work at the Daily Planet; she will work with Clark Kent.

Jimmy Olsen will one day become a photographer at the Daily Planet; he will work with Lois Lane and Clark Kent.

And I watched to see how their journey's would unfold, expecting at most to see Lois and Clark's relationship evolve, with hints towards the future, but more than likely nothing coming of it in Smallville. The show-runners again have followed this route and I've judged it on how they do it to get the characters closer to the end game. Any hints or nods to the mythos like Lois draping Clark in a red blanket, or dreaming about a man in a red cape or being the first to kiss him when he was wearing a superhero disguise were more than enough to make me happy.

Then in season eight they placed Clark Kent and Lois Lane working in the Daily Planet across desks from each other, it had Clark saving people and gaining a reputation as a hero under the guise of the red and blue blur. We're now IN mythos territory. And the hints about Lois and Clark, though far from subtle at times, have been dropped left, right and center until we had Lois Lane in love with Clark Kent. THIS to me is Superman territory and with the spoilers for the rest of the season it's clear that's still the way the show is heading. We're closer to the end game than ever before and further along that I ever expected. To take an iconic scene on the roof of the Daily Planet at this stage of the game, and when they've never felt the need to 'steal' iconic images from Superman to use in a way not tied to the known story, made it stick out like a sore thumb to me. And I want to make it plain - if it had been Chloe or Alicia or Tess or any other woman and the shot had been filmed with that same iconic feel I'd have been just as annoyed as I am now. To me it's right up there with the red cape and the 'S' symbol. Not everyone will feel that way, and I'm not saying they should just because I do, but that place to me was sacrosanct and it was unnecessary to use it the way they did.

I think you misunderstood what I said. I was responding to Sunny's post about Lana being an insignificant blip in Superman history. And I said with the long popularity of this show, I seriously doubt Lana is unknown now.

Fair enough. To me she was never a blip. Anyone who had a major part in Clark Kent's past helped form the man he became. And there have been times in the comic books I haven't liked how she was written. I liked AO's version of her in Superman 2 when Clark went back to Smallville and I thought their relationship was sweet and had potential and I was curious to know what had happened. So she's never been unknown to me.

Perspective? :eek:lol.:lol: I laugh because I think about the million threads of Clana hating on this board, and how many people(Clois) fans won't watch Smallville anymore depending on how Requiem is played out, well the Clana in Requiem.

Without starting anything resembling the kind of 'shipper war' myself and many others are sick to death of. I think before casting a stone, I would have to look at the many different instances when particular fanbases have gone crazy and threatened to quit watching the show. Let the fanbase without sin in this department cast the first stone I say. YMMV. I personally have seen just as many Lana fans say that once Lana leaves the show they will stop watching, so it's kind of a moot point IMO.

But to your question, no there probably wouldn't have been that particular scene shot on the DP, but then again, like you said, Superman had a lot of history created way before we were born so I'm sure the idea of the DP being filmed on the show of Smallville would of happened anyways, oh wait, it did and we have a scene of Clark and Lana kissing.;)

Sigh. I'm not even going to answer this.

Even though you mentioned a lot about the many of shows, comics, animated cartoon etc., of Superman, there was never one about his up bringing. So Smallville was created and boom here we are on the 8th Season, mind you, Lois and Clark didn't last too long by the way, but my point is that this show is before Clark and Lois and before he wears the red cape and after 8yrs and as a Superman fan, the writers(all of them) have stayed true to that, which is keeping Clark at Clark. Sure there have been times I been frustrated with Clark's character on many episodes, but that's the growing pains the writers are telling.

It's nice to be able to talk about this without any little digs being made. :rolleyes: Nothing that ever went into his upbringing? Really? Superboy? The scenes at the beginning of the original Superman Movie or the ones that touched on them again in SR not to mention flashbacks in the comics? It's never been explored as FULLY before, but it's most certainly not a completely blank slate. The story it has to tie into in the end has been more than explored, so the show-runners are fully aware of what they're supposed to marry up with. If they didn't they wouldn't be where they are now with Clark working at the Daily Planet with Lois Lane and saving lives in Metropolis and the formation of the Justice League. They're already in Superman territory and have been for some time now. IMO the closer they get to the end game the MORE Clark Kent's character should be recognizable as the man who is also Superman. And just as some fans like to throw stones about Lois Lane, Lex, Doomsday et all being in Clark's life before he becomes Superman, there are fans that say Lana should not be as much of a focus in his life now that he is working at the Daily Planet and so much closer to taking on the guise of Superman. Again, if someone can bring me instances of when she has been such a large focus in his life as he started work at the Daily Planet, then I'll stand corrected on that point. The original timeline has been messed around with in this show. IMO the simple fact is we ARE now in Superman territory in a way we never have been before. And raising the importance of ANY character above the level of Clark's is wrong to me. Taking something directly recognizable as a part of the love story of Lois Lane and Clark Kent and handing it over to Lana was unnecessary as far as I'm concerned. In the same way I thought the use of the Fever letter and the corsage linked to Chloe and Clark was unnecessary.

But now all of a sudden Smallville sucks because were not getting enough Clois???I'm a Superman fan period and I love good storytelling and good discussions, and as much of pain it was to watch Reckoning(2nd half) and to put up with the failed Lexana story arc, I'm still here. Its very sad to come on a site where Superman fans can't even have a decent discussion due to their dislike of a shipper aka Clana.

And at what point did I do that exactly? At what point did I say I wasn't getting enough Clois? At what point did I claim I wasn't a Superman fan having a discussion with other Superman or Smallville fans? At what point did I say the kiss on the roof of the Daily Planet was Lana's fault and not the fault of the showrunners? This part of your post might not have been directed to me, and if my post came across as an attack on Lana it was not meant that way. I'm extremely annoyed that they used that end scene on the roof of the Daily Planet the way they did and I'm annoyed about what's being done to Clark's character to build up Lana's before she leaves and I'm annoyed about what this arc does to Clark's character in the rest of the season, particularly if he jumps from one relationship to another. That's where I stand right now. And my faith that the PS3 can handle this well has taken a severe dent. Like everyone else I have to wait and see.

I mean, outside of the "shipping" of the couples we like, it still comes down to Clark Kents story being told and if Clark Kent/Superman's young love life was a long struggle, then so be it. Again, if you have read the comics and all the history of Superman that you mentioned, you saw the name Lana and Smallville was the opportunity to explore that. And from my understanding, Lana was in the Lois and Clark seris as well.

I couldn't agree more that it's Clark Kent's story. As I've said in this post I'm more than aware of the number of times Lana Lang has appeared in varying Superman stories. But never once was her character built up at his expense. Smallville is the first show to have that 'honour'. And to me it does a great disservice to Lana as well. She wasn't enough for him without superpowers? They couldn't make it work by working through their problems together? They aren't stronger together than apart? It wasn't just a case of no matter how they tried it wasn't enough? That to me is sad enough on it's own and something we all experience at some point in our lives. But that wasn't enough for Smallville; they had to make Lana Clark's equal with a superpowered suit and then (possobly) make it that someone else pushed them apart. That to me was unnecessary too. I wanted to be given the impression they were stronger people for having each other in their lives. And that's not the impression I'm being left with as this arc comes to it's end.

As a Clana fan, and forever I will be;), all I and other Clana's want is just the proper closure because we ALL know that there is Lois Lane. Clana has been written at times horribly and its actually refreshing to finally see that passion again before it ends, and this week, yes Lana will be done, but the character sure is leaving her mark and its obvious on this board site.

Speaking as someone who isn't a Clana fan, I want the exact same thing. But by doing it the way they have, it hasn't been done nearly as well as it could have IMO. And it worries me from the point of view of what is left in it's aftermath for the rest of the season and any season that comes after that - regardless of whether or not Clois happens on Smallville. Just as you wish the character of Clark and Lana and their relationship to be treated with respect, I want the same for Clark and Lois and their relationship.

And in my conclusion, do you think I'm going to announce or yell "I'M NOT WATCHING SMALLVILLE ANYMORE" after Requiem?, of course not, then all the talk of me being a Superman fan is just talk. Its about Clark Kent ripping the shirt open, huge S symbol, (Superman Theme music).

I don't think there's anyone who watches Smallville that isn't waiting for the same thing. :) But to me it's more than that. It's the MAN who rips open that shirt and reveals the 'S' symbol. And everything that's happening to the more mature Clark Kent on screen right now becomes a part of who that man is. I'm not going to pretend this arc didn't happen for the sake of convenience. So anything that makes him look bad or flies in the face of the values the future Clark Kent and Superman hold dear, worries and annoys me. The Superman legacy is a lot to live up to and I think sometimes the show-runners seem to forget that and weaken or tear down their hero in favour of others. :(

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I am pretty sure that all they were really thinking about was how the scene would look visually and maybe the symbolism of the sunrise.

Then I'm sorry, they're idiots. It's their JOB to look at the big picture, to think about the impression they are giving and to look at everything that has gone before and that they have to live up to in the end. Saying they weren't looking at it that closely is a complete and utter cop out IMO. Continuity is their job, characterization is their job, visuals are their job, knowing the history of Superman is their job (it's called research). If they can't do those things and still come up with some of the great plots and twists they have done over the years then they shouldn't be doing what they're doing. It's the very fact they've got so much RIGHT this season that makes this arc look all the more pathetic IMO. They're better than this. And this scene was an insult. If it was just me upset about it then I'd feel like a prima-donna, but it's not just me - and the writers should have THOUGHT OF THAT. It's called considering all the angles as far as I'm concerned, and as a professional writer I'm fully aware of how much work it takes, so I'm not holding them to any higher a standard than I hold myself.

Ask anyone who has known me on these boards for a while and they will tell you how enthusiastic I was about this season and how I defended it and debated it but kept my faith in these new show-runners. I'm now very disillusioned and sincerely hope to be proved wrong. But when you set the bar high, you don't LOWER IT. You strive for bigger and better things than ever before IMO. It's part of the reason I'm so disappointed in them for this DP rooftop scene in particular. They KNEW what they were doing.

Kalista

02-01-2009, 02:00 PM

Then I'm sorry, they're idiots. It's their JOB to look at the big picture, to think about the impression they are giving and to look at everything that has gone before and that they have to live up to in the end. Saying they weren't looking at it that closely is a complete and utter cop out IMO. Continuity is their job, characterization is their job, visuals are their job, knowing the history of Superman is their job (it's called research). If they can't do those things and still come up with some of the great plots and twists they have done over the years then they shouldn't be doing what they're doing. It's the very fact they've got so much RIGHT this season that makes this arc look all the more pathetic IMO. They're better than this. And this scene was an insult. If it was just me upset about it then I'd feel like a prima-donna, but it's not just me - and the writers should have THOUGHT OF THAT. It's called considering all the angles as far as I'm concerned, and as a professional writer I'm fully aware of how much work it takes, so I'm not holding them to any higher a standard than I hold myself.

Honestly, I can empathize with you because I felt the EXACT same way about events that took place during the first half of this season. It wasn't pleasant being told it was in my imagination.

EternalTwilight

02-01-2009, 02:08 PM

Annie after reading your post I realize that I'm not angry. I'm just utterly heartbroken. A big fat WORD to that entire post.

Off topic: Kalista I absolutely love your avatar. It's gorgeous!

Kalista

02-01-2009, 02:20 PM

Annie Off topic: Kalista I absolutely love your avatar. It's gorgeous!

Thanks!

ClLaLeChFAN01

02-01-2009, 03:04 PM

I was hoping the kiss was a goodbye kiss....that didnt happen.

Mrs. Superman

02-01-2009, 03:06 PM

I was hoping the kiss was a goodbye kiss....that didnt happen.

Same here. This kiss was all kinds of wrong.

unfocused

02-01-2009, 04:12 PM

Clark didn't really seem to enjoy the kiss or even want to kiss her. I'm guessing next episode he wouldn't be interested and her new found hunger for power will just make him want to move on.

alienkinfolk

02-01-2009, 04:29 PM

The kiss was nice, but it's too late now for it. The Clana ship thru the years has ruined my pov of their love to the point that scenes like this make me cringe, and revolt with such an agitation that my eyes burn with fury. So I have to regress and realize that CK isn't over Lana, Is in love with Lana and is in more emotional trouble than we know.

velocity

02-01-2009, 04:29 PM

CLanaF23

02-01-2009, 05:55 PM

didnt the reporter say "clark, what are you doing rising before the roosters? so doesn't that mean the sun was rising? so the point of the whole "the sun is setting on clana" is pointless.

CLANA IS NEVER REALLY OVER. <3

unfocused

02-01-2009, 06:03 PM

Lol. That's actually very funny.

Var-Zol

02-01-2009, 06:26 PM

people, youre all overlooking the obvious reason they did that whole lana has powers thing, they just wanted to make an attempt to send her character off with a bang to appease everyone.

cloisthelegendbegins

02-01-2009, 06:26 PM

CLANA IS NEVER REALLY OVER. <3

Even when she leaves. :rolleyes:

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people, youre all overlooking the obvious reason they did that whole lana has powers thing, they just wanted to make an attempt to send her character off with a bang to appease everyone.

I'd dispute the 'everyone' part ;) If that was their intention it hasn't gone too well...

myankskent

02-01-2009, 06:28 PM

people, youre all overlooking the obvious reason they did that whole lana has powers thing, they just wanted to make an attempt to send her character off with a bang to appease everyone.

Well, I have a better idea. How about sending her off as Clark's friend so that we can get proper closure for this relationship.

obsessedwithsv

02-01-2009, 06:28 PM

^Haha, Clana's over before Lois even returns

cloisthelegendbegins

02-01-2009, 06:29 PM

Well, I have a better idea. How about sending her off as Clark's friend so that we can get proper closure for this relationship.

I vote for that!

Sunny8

02-01-2009, 06:30 PM

Sue Denim

02-01-2009, 06:35 PM

people, youre all overlooking the obvious reason they did that whole lana has powers thing, they just wanted to make an attempt to send her character off with a bang to appease everyone.

I think they could have done this differently though. It's possible to write big ideas with intelligence. This was a big huge easy button, which is why I can't look at this episode with tons of objectivity. I can't see through all the cheese.

Promise

02-01-2009, 08:05 PM

And at what point did I do that exactly? At what point did I say I wasn't getting enough Clois? At what point did I claim I wasn't a Superman fan having a discussion with other Superman or Smallville fans? At what point did I say the kiss on the roof of the Daily Planet was Lana's fault and not the fault of the showrunners? This part of your post might not have been directed to me, and if my post came across as an attack on Lana it was not meant that way. .

I will respond more, but I wanted to respond to this real quick and that is to say that no, your post didn't have that attack at all and I was just venting about the Clana hating overall, so sorry for not being to clear.

cloisthelegendbegins

02-01-2009, 08:09 PM

I will respond more, but I wanted to respond to this real quick and that is to say that no, your post didn't have that attack at all and I was just venting about the Clana hating overall, so sorry for not being to clear.

Cool. :cool:

Promise

02-01-2009, 08:10 PM

It's nice to be able to talk about this without any little digs being made. :rolleyes: /QUOTE]

hahah, With all digs aside,;) I actually enjoyed our discussion. :)

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[QUOTE=cloisthelegendbegins;4411881]

Sigh. I'm not even going to answer this.

:lol:

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Without starting anything resembling the kind of 'shipper war' myself and many others are sick to death of. I think before casting a stone, I would have to look at the many different instances when particular fanbases have gone crazy and threatened to quit watching the show. Let the fanbase without sin in this department cast the first stone I say. YMMV. I personally have seen just as many Lana fans say that once Lana leaves the show they will stop watching, so it's kind of a moot point IMO.

Nothing that ever went into his upbringing? Really? Superboy? The scenes at the beginning of the original Superman Movie or the ones that touched on them again in SR not to mention flashbacks in the comics? It's never been explored as FULLY before, but it's most certainly not a completely blank slate. The story it has to tie into in the end has been more than explored, so the show-runners are fully aware of what they're supposed to marry up with. If they didn't they wouldn't be where they are now with Clark working at the Daily Planet with Lois Lane and saving lives in Metropolis and the formation of the Justice League. They're already in Superman territory and have been for some time now. IMO the closer they get to the end game the MORE Clark Kent's character should be recognizable as the man who is also Superman. And just as some fans like to throw stones about Lois Lane, Lex, Doomsday et all being in Clark's life before he becomes Superman, there are fans that say Lana should not be as much of a focus in his life now that he is working at the Daily Planet and so much closer to taking on the guise of Superman. Again, if someone can bring me instances of when she has been such a large focus in his life as he started work at the Daily Planet, then I'll stand corrected on that point. The original timeline has been messed around with in this show. IMO the simple fact is we ARE now in Superman territory in a way we never have been before. And raising the importance of ANY character above the level of Clark's is wrong to me. Taking something directly recognizable as a part of the love story of Lois Lane and Clark Kent and handing it over to Lana was unnecessary as far as I'm concerned. In the same way I thought the use of the Fever letter and the corsage linked to Chloe and Clark was unnecessary.

I couldn't agree more that it's Clark Kent's story. As I've said in this post I'm more than aware of the number of times Lana Lang has appeared in varying Superman stories. But never once was her character built up at his expense. Smallville is the first show to have that 'honour'. And to me it does a great disservice to Lana as well. She wasn't enough for him without superpowers? They couldn't make it work by working through their problems together? They aren't stronger together than apart? It wasn't just a case of no matter how they tried it wasn't enough? That to me is sad enough on it's own and something we all experience at some point in our lives. But that wasn't enough for Smallville; they had to make Lana Clark's equal with a superpowered suit and then (possobly) make it that someone else pushed them apart. That to me was unnecessary too. I wanted to be given the impression they were stronger people for having each other in their lives. And that's not the impression I'm being left with as this arc comes to it's end.

Speaking as someone who isn't a Clana fan, I want the exact same thing. But by doing it the way they have, it hasn't been done nearly as well as it could have IMO. And it worries me from the point of view of what is left in it's aftermath for the rest of the season and any season that comes after that - regardless of whether or not Clois happens on Smallville. Just as you wish the character of Clark and Lana and their relationship to be treated with respect, I want the same for Clark and Lois and their relationship.

I don't think there's anyone who watches Smallville that isn't waiting for the same thing. :) But to me it's more than that. It's the MAN who rips open that shirt and reveals the 'S' symbol. And everything that's happening to the more mature Clark Kent on screen right now becomes a part of who that man is. I'm not going to pretend this arc didn't happen for the sake of convenience. So anything that makes him look bad or flies in the face of the values the future Clark Kent and Superman hold dear, worries and annoys me. The Superman legacy is a lot to live up to and I think sometimes the show-runners seem to forget that and weaken or tear down their hero in favour of others. :(

Yeah, some have threatened to quit, I just wasn't one of them, but with that same point, I guess were even then...:rolleyes:

For everything else you said, we basically agree as far as how are shippers are written and the effects on Clark's character and the whole story telling. To be honest with you, I'm all for them leading Clark to the Clois in Smallville, but when S8 started, Clois seemed rushed. First off, Clana wasn't over/closed properly yet, and I think they did it, and sorry to say this, but the showrunners did it to sort of please the Clois fans, and to me it didn't make sense that Lois was all of a sudden into Clark?? Since S4 they were like brother and sister and now inlove??? But now and yes here it comes, its a wait and see, but after this week, I will be satisfied with Clana and I can finally move on and not worry about that part of Clark's life anymore. If anything, I just wished the writers would had written in an episode where Clark talks about the very first time he actually told her his secret and what had happened to his father Jonathan or to why and how actually died. S7 was perfect to that, but anyways, I'm just ranting now.

cloisthelegendbegins

02-01-2009, 09:05 PM

hahah, With all digs aside,;) I actually enjoyed our discussion. :)

Right back atcha! ;)

Yeah, some have threatened to quit, I just wasn't one of them, but with that same point, I guess were even then...:rolleyes:

I have a mental image of those people sneaking into a hidden room to watch without anyone knowing... a guilty little secret they never share with the world - Shhhhh! Don't tell!!! :rolleyes:

For everything else you said, we basically agree as far as how are shippers are written and the effects on Clark's character and the whole story telling. To be honest with you, I'm all for them leading Clark to the Clois in Smallville, but when S8 started, Clois seemed rushed. First off, Clana wasn't over/closed properly yet, and I think they did it, and sorry to say this, but the showrunners did it to sort of please the Clois fans, and to me it didn't make sense that Lois was all of a sudden into Clark?? Since S4 they were like brother and sister and now inlove??? But now and yes here it comes, its a wait and see, but after this week, I will be satisfied with Clana and I can finally move on and not worry about that part of Clark's life anymore. If anything, I just wished the writers would had written in an episode where Clark talks about the very first time he actually told her his secret and what had happened to his father Jonathan or to why and how actually died. S7 was perfect to that, but anyways, I'm just ranting now.

Oh lord - we ALL rant about this show from time to time. It's far from perfect. But then neither can they please all of the people all of the time I guess. I just don't think it should ever be done at the expense of one fanbase over another, y'know?

As to the rushed part of Clois - we all see things differently from one section of fandom to the other - I for one saw changes in Lois and Clark's relationship back as far as Lucy and those changes continuing up to and including Arctic. I'll agree by no means was the start of this season perfect - and there were times even I was rolling my eyes at the number of occasions they dropped in third person references and other people pointing out a connection and how sappy Lois was over Clark's jacket in Bride kinda made me cringe - so I can be just as critical with my ship, believe me! And it's part of the reason I'm so concerned about the rest of the season when it comes to their relationship, y'know? I love Lois as a standalone character, most of the time I love Clark even more (he brought me to the show after all ;) and he's the reason I stay - but if they DO decide to touch the Clois relationship I just want it treated with respect and not merely done for the sake of ratings. I'm not a sheep. I'm a fan who likes to be shown how the relationship grows and enjoys the journey (for the most part :rolleyes:) I want to love my favourite characters both apart AND if they get together - and I can't love them together if I don't love them as characters unto themselves. If that makes sense...

For the most part and despite some of the plotholes, I've LOVED season eight up until now. But by raising the bar the show-runners have led me to expect so much more than I feel they gave me in Power. YMMV.

But yes, it is a case of wait and see. And yes, I am a picky fan ;)

batfinx

02-01-2009, 09:56 PM

How is that appeasing everyone? They just made her look crazy.

I agree. Lana came across as a total wack job. I watched the episode thinking somebody better send for the man with the butterfly net and haul her off to the rubber condo. As for the kiss on the DP rooftop, yeah, it was a thoughtless choice, but there's no real iconic moments for Clark and Lana traditionally, not like there is for Clark and Lois. Clark and Lana could kiss on Snoopy's doghouse and it wouldn't mean anything :lol:

EternalTwilight

02-01-2009, 10:17 PM

I agree. Lana came across as a total wack job. I watched the episode thinking somebody better send for the man with the butterfly net and haul her off to the rubber condo. As for the kiss on the DP rooftop, yeah, it was a thoughtless choice, but there's no real iconic moments for Clark and Lana traditionally, not like there is for Clark and Lois. Clark and Lana could kiss on Snoopy's doghouse and it wouldn't mean anything :lol:

:lol:

You make a good point. I just hope they don't crap on anymore tradition.

Serynarpc

02-01-2009, 10:48 PM

It was a sunrise. It was Clark and his beloved SuperLana, now free of all obstacles in their romance. And then they go home for some supersex. *pukes*

I can't take anymore. After all Lana has done, after all her deceit, her theivery, her IMMORAL actions, Clark STILL comes panting for more??? WTF?! How the f*ck is this closure??? How is sha*ging Lana closure for Clark???:mad:

But don't fret Lois fans! Cos 3 episodes later, Clark will look lovingly into Lois's eyes, and that makes it all better! :rolleyes: That means he was really thinking of Lois while he was banging Lana!!!

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Smallville's Clark Kent will NEVER be Superman. He's too much of Lana's bi*ch to ever be the Man of Steel.

Quoted for truth.

I can't believe that after Lana deceived everyone not just that she married Lex because she loved him (when really, it was to 'protect Clark'), faked her own death (and her poor Clone) and now has been deceiving everyone for months to become SuperWoman- that every thing is hugs, puppies and rainbows. Chloe fibs about lying about seeing Lana and its a big deal. Oliver goes a bit too junkie on the serum and Clark throws it in his face months later (Bulletproof).

But Lana and Clark going all over the same old road? Didn't Wrath - Lana make Clark think 'hm, scary obsession!' Didn't her falling for and sleeping with Bizarro prove that she wants an idealized Clark and not the actual conflicted super hero Clark?

I swear, this show has one more episode to pull itself into Clark striving for being the man of steel and protector of humanity and not the Purse holding, girlfriend doting push over.

ColdPlay3r

02-01-2009, 10:55 PM

Tompouce

02-02-2009, 04:54 AM

Clark didn't really seem to enjoy the kiss or even want to kiss her. I'm guessing next episode he wouldn't be interested and her new found hunger for power will just make him want to move on.
thanks we are at least 3 to think like that (Mickey Bickey, you and I):D;)

friday

02-02-2009, 05:21 AM

justme_007

02-02-2009, 06:47 AM

i just want to say this, who wants an epic and by the way boring ship as Lois and Clark after seeing that kiss. Long Live Clana! As some clois shippers even said : they own the show!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Sweetie

02-02-2009, 10:31 AM

Didn't like it not because of the kiss itself because of where it happenned.Come on,they could have go talk and kiss by the ocean,in the field,in the barn anywhere else but,the roof of DP was very big mistake.

Tompouce

02-02-2009, 11:09 AM

Their kiss was like SuzieQ said BUT it is clear Clark has doubts, he was looking at a dossier concerning Lana on his computer, he was very hesitant when she tells him "we can be together if you want to" and at the beginning of the epi he says she is holding him back. Okay, he still feels something for her but you can be attracted by someone (especially after 7 years of love ! ) but at the same time, slowly realize something is wrong. This is where we are now.
You know what ? Each time I think of Clana, I have this song from The Doors in mind : "this is the end...":D

Ellsbury

02-02-2009, 11:49 AM

thanks we are at least 3 to think like that (Mickey Bickey, you and I):D;)

<link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CRomain%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmso html1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" images="" smilies="" redface.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Embarrassment" smilieid="3" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype><style>  </style> I am with you guys! Lana totally forced the kiss.<st1> Clark</st1> was having doubts. He was clearly realizing the craziness of the situation. But unfortunately as we all know now Clark is a weak soul, he surrendered without a fight...

I have been thinking about this episode over and over and I am sure this Clana fest is too good to be true. Something is wrong. It does not feel right at all… just look at <st1>Clark</st1>’s face during the scene: he is totally uneasy with all Lana’s nonsense. I am sure the writers intentionally created this improbable final scene. They are playing with us. As <st1>Clark</st1> said they’re in a dream, it is not going to last. A painful wake up call is coming!<o></o>

skugers

02-02-2009, 12:53 PM

I really hope the writers played us too with the DP rooftop scene. Clark was definitely having doubts and Lana was just chaotic. And it seemed too goog to be true. I really hope something goes wrong, although i'm not convinced. I've been deceived by the writers many times yet...

justme_007

02-02-2009, 01:08 PM

<LINK href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CRomain%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmso html1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml" rel=File-List><?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:smarttagtype class=inlineimg title=Embarrassment smilieid="3" alt="" border="0" redface.gif="" smilies="" images="" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/></o:smarttagtype><OBJECT id=ieooui classid=clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D></OBJECT><STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </STYLE><STYLE> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent: </STYLE>I am with you guys! Lana totally forced the kiss.<ST1> Clark</ST1> was having doubts. He was clearly realizing the craziness of the situation. But unfortunately as we all know now Clark is a weak soul, he surrendered without a fight...

I have been thinking about this episode over and over and I am sure this Clana fest is too good to be true. Something is wrong. It does not feel right at all… just look at <ST1>Clark</ST1>’s face during the scene: he is totally uneasy with all Lana’s nonsense. I am sure the writers intentionally created this improbable final scene. They are playing with us. As <ST1>Clark</ST1> said they’re in a dream, it is not going to last. A painful wake up call is coming!<O></O>

Come on jajajajaj he didn´t want to kiss lana :rotfl::rotfl: look well at the kiss.. was she forcing this? :rotfl::rotfl: :rolleyes:

Ellsbury

02-02-2009, 01:13 PM

Come on jajajajaj he didn´t want to kiss lana :rotfl::rotfl: look well at the kiss.. was she forcing this? :rotfl::rotfl: :rolleyes:

I am confident Requiem will prove my point!

Tompouce

02-02-2009, 01:26 PM

<LINK href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CRomain%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmso html1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml" rel=File-List><?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:smarttagtype class=inlineimg title=Embarrassment smilieid="3" alt="" border="0" redface.gif="" smilies="" images="" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/></o:smarttagtype><OBJECT id=ieooui classid=clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D></OBJECT><STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </STYLE><STYLE> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent: </STYLE>I am with you guys! Lana totally forced the kiss.<ST1> Clark</ST1> was having doubts. He was clearly realizing the craziness of the situation. But unfortunately as we all know now Clark is a weak soul, he surrendered without a fight...

I have been thinking about this episode over and over and I am sure this Clana fest is too good to be true. Something is wrong. It does not feel right at all… just look at <ST1>Clark</ST1>’s face during the scene: he is totally uneasy with all Lana’s nonsense. I am sure the writers intentionally created this improbable final scene. They are playing with us. As <ST1>Clark</ST1> said they’re in a dream, it is not going to last. A painful wake up call is coming!

Another guy in the team and one from France, thanks you make my day:D;)
I completely understand what you mean. I have seen the post from someone (sorry, I don't remember the name)who tells you Clark was really okay for the kiss. Yes, he was but just before he was hesitant. Lana told him "UNLESS, IT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT". And after this moment, he had not the strenght to tell her the truth. A kiss is a kiss but you can kiss someone and at the same time be alrealdy far away from the person...I think it is Clark's case. You can't expect from him not to kiss the woman he has loved for so long. It is a kind of temptation because they have not closed their relation at the moment. BUT DOUBTS ARE IN CLARK'S MIND whatever you can say...

Kid Collins

02-03-2009, 03:42 PM

NOW I know why TPTB decided to film the Clana kiss on the roof of the DP.

It's BECAUSE, if they kissed in the loft or the talon some people in here would say that Clark was living in the past, that's why they kissed in familiar Clana territory.

The same can't be said now since the DP represents the future of Clark Kent. From now on, everytime there's a rooftop DP scene, many viewers will associate that roof with the now infamous Clana kiss!:D

ClanaDestinyObsession

02-04-2009, 02:25 PM

I am pretty sure that all they were really thinking about was how the scene would look visually and maybe the symbolism of the sunrise.

yeah that's true the sunrise is symbolic of a fresh start... a new dawn. I liked also the symbolism of the stepping up to be on even ground.

It's BECAUSE, if they kissed in the loft or the talon some people in here would say that Clark was living in the past, that's why they kissed in familiar Clana territory.
also true. it's not the past Clana. It's a new [[&& improved]] Clana

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Another guy in the team and one from France, thanks you make my day:D;)
I completely understand what you mean. I have seen the post from someone (sorry, I don't remember the name)who tells you Clark was really okay for the kiss. Yes, he was but just before he was hesitant. Lana told him "UNLESS, IT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT". And after this moment, he had not the strenght to tell her the truth. A kiss is a kiss but you can kiss someone and at the same time be already far away from the person...I think it is Clark's case. You can't expect from him not to kiss the woman he has loved for so long. It is a kind of temptation because they have not closed their relation at the moment. BUT DOUBTS ARE IN CLARK'S MIND whatever you can say...

No, it is what he wants. When Lana says, "together we can help make the world a better place," Clark is scared of getting hurt again. Lana sees his face and says, "unless that's not what you want," and he quickly takes a step up towards her and says, "No! Lana, that's EXACTLY what I want!" and then explains, "It's a dream [as in something too good to be true], Lana. We both know that dreams normally don't come true." In doing this, he explains that he wants it to work but has never thought it would be able to. Now Lana says, "there's never been anything normal about us," because she is reassuring him that they should pursue their love because it's worth it.

clana4everfan2

02-04-2009, 05:54 PM

Yeah sexy sweet Clana kiss :)

zanaamen

02-04-2009, 06:23 PM

means I love you :)

tibbit78

02-04-2009, 06:44 PM

I loved the Clana kiss. It was one of the best kisses I've ever seen on Smallville.

i mean professionally, Tom & Kristin did a great job in kissing. They kissed like professional actors & actresses. They did a fantastic job!

redkryptoniteisthebest

02-04-2009, 08:21 PM

I agree completely!!

the_kryptonian

02-05-2009, 07:08 AM

During the episode "Bride" premiere:

*watches Clark and Lois get close, then the interuptus by Chloe and the reveal of none other than Lana Lang*

*eyes widen... lower jaw slowly descends til hanging agape... sinks to his knees and raises his fists skyward*

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"

During "Power" premiere:

*watches Clark and Lana talk... then kiss.*

"AAAARGH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

Today:

For the love of God... not this again! He's come so far, he finally got off his butt and went forward with his path, he was finally catching the attention of his future true love....... and now THIS!! *sigh* All the progress.... say goodbye to it, 'cause Clark's going to regress. She left, he moved on beautifully, and now it's the same stale story.

And I must say that Lana exited well in the previous season finale. She had been given reason to think that maybe she was keeping Clark from really doing whatever he was truly meant for, something bigger than life in Smallville, and that culminated into a heartbreaking but appropriate exit for her character.

THAT WAS UNTIL....... this episode and its God-awful explanation for why she left after all. So what was a beautiful ending for the character, giving up what she wanted for a greater good, is now sullied for the sake of milking a bit more of the Clana drama. It's disappointing because I feel the writers/producers have taken the show in an amazing direction in just half a season!

On a side note: I would have been a hell of a lot more intrigued if it turned out that this Lana, who we've seen since the beginning of Season 7, were actually the clone Lex had made... and the real Lana truly gone. Now *that* angle would have totally made me ignore the changing of her "graceful exit"... it would have been a pretty big twist! Show just one more reason to believe how twisted Lex is despite his absence to present it himself. :D It would justify her sudden departure by the new episode "Requiem" coming up soon... either Lana will die or just leave again. If death, of course it will relate to the nanotech used on her recently.. something goes haywire or she's left vulnerable in some way. But come on... how heartbreaking would it be if Lana (the Lana clone, if that were only the case) died from good ol' "clone degeneration"? You think about it.. it would amp how much Clark would be powerless to save her, and how he would feel so.

My only hope though is that they have Lana leave without death... she leaves because Clark tells her that he has moved on and isn't as in love with her as he once believed. Doesn't have to say everything that's changed, just suffice it to say that he has in fact moved on. Lana would deal just fine, even if it is a teary ending between them. And this, I think, would be a beautiful end to Clana and the needless drama it brings.

*sigh* Good to be writing here again after such a long hiatus. :p

rebecavaldez

02-06-2009, 07:54 PM

Go away Clana go away!

The_Promise

02-09-2009, 03:14 PM

I personally loved that kiss on the top of the Daily Planet, I thought it was beautiful and they both looked beautiful and so did the sunrise/sunset and the sky.

Sunny8

02-14-2009, 11:16 PM

I wouldn't be showing that off. Clark and Lois lived together yes, as brother and sister along with mom and dad Kents. Lana lived with Clark as his GF without the parental units. So different.

Not in the least bit different except for the parents. In season 7 Lana lived with Clark but they did not have sex with each other. That was Bizarro Lana was having sex with not Clark. So Clark and Lana lived pretty much like brother and sister---the same kind of relationship he had when he was living at the farm with Lois before Lana.

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Too bad we won't see it in Smallville. And SV is the longest running show ever to focus on Clark Kent. And for the past 7 years, it's Clark and his ever enduring love for Lana Lang. And it's being broadcast all over the world and will live on forever on DVD's.

Don't be to sure of that. TPTB might make the episodes with Lana appear like they never were this season. They change whatever they want from episode to episode. So the next time we see Clark Kent with Lois Lane he probably will be continuing the feelings he had for Lois like Lana never came back. Makes him look fickle but evidently the writers do not care.

suzieQ

02-15-2009, 09:12 AM

Not in the least bit different except for the parents. In season 7 Lana lived with Clark but they did not have sex with each other. That was Bizarro Lana was having sex with not Clark. So Clark and Lana lived pretty much like brother and sister---the same kind of relationship he had when he was living at the farm with Lois before Lana.

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I guess you missed the part in Wrath when Chloe came to the farm and after she realized that Clark and Lana had earthshaking sex, Chloe said to Lana, "I thought you said you couldn't......" and Lana said a bit embarrassed something like, " We normally can't....." and Clark asks the two if they have talked about this?

Well, it was obvious that Clark and Lana had been TRYING to find a way to have SEX and hadn't quite been able to do it "completely".....of course that means there are other intimacies that they were trying!! They weren't living together as brother and sister, not by a long shot. I guess Lana thought enough of her intimate relationship with Clark to talk about it with Chloe ......so that is evidence enough that something was going on!

I guess if some people throw away the DVD disc of Season 8 with Clana in it, it will be like the Clana never happened, right? :lol:

Sunny8

02-15-2009, 03:23 PM

I guess you missed the part in Wrath when Chloe came to the farm and after she realized that Clark and Lana had earthshaking sex, Chloe said to Lana, "I thought you said you couldn't......" and Lana said a bit embarrassed something like, " We normally can't....." and Clark asks the two if they have talked about this?

No, I didn't miss it. I said that Lois lived in the farmhouse with Clark before Lana and she did. The only time Lana had sex with Clark was when she was just like him and she jumped his bones, as usual. Otherwise they lived like brother and sister, just like Lois did before her.

Well, it was obvious that Clark and Lana had been TRYING to find a way to have SEX and hadn't quite been able to do it "completely"
Where was it obvious? Lana may have been talking about it and trying to have sex with Clark, as usual, but Clark evidently is a sexual camel--he can go without it forever it seems.

I guess Lana thought enough of her intimate relationship with Clark to talk about it with Chloe ......so that is evidence enough that something was going on!

No that does not show evidence at all just because Lana was talking about it with Chloe. It shows that Lana was, for lack of better words, hot in the pants like she always seemed to be in the past. That is why she always had to have a man in her life.

I guess if some people throw away the DVD disc of Season 8 with Clana in it, it will be like the Clana never happened, right? :lol:

Unfortunately, no one will have to do that. In 'Requiem' Clark is moaning over Lana. In 'Infamous' he acts like she was never there at all. TPTB are making the Lana arc episodes disappear (in Clark's mind anyway) right before our eyes. As I said before, that makes him look fickle and like he never really loved Lana as much as he said that he did.

emc3015

04-10-2009, 12:11 PM

kal-el_Girl

07-12-2009, 11:36 PM

I hated the kiss as well, those clana episodes were unjustified just an excuse to make us cringe and to possibly hate Lana even more.

terri7015

08-02-2009, 10:04 PM

I hated it with a passion! I still can't believe they kissed at the Daily Planet! I mean what were they thinking putting a Clana kiss in there? That ship has sailed a long time ago!!!

pizzahead2490

12-27-2010, 12:17 AM

Lois Lane: "Sick to my stomach."

Eleidich

01-10-2011, 01:48 PM

The most of the clana shippers were mean with us back then, during that awful lana arc. They practically laugh in our faces.

Gosh how things have changed now and I am so happy for it…anyway I would love to know where all those people are now.....I´d love to see what they say now!

mirandalynn22

01-17-2011, 04:33 PM

That kiss never should have happened on the DP rooftop. That's what I don't like, he could have kissed her on the roof of the Talon, anywhere in Smallville and I'd have been like 'whatevs'. I will never be happy about the location of that kiss.

JeanneKent

03-22-2011, 11:18 AM

I hate the writers.