PLEASE READ: Stop The Bashing

[ginevrakent]

Again, that is personal opinion about a term that is permitted. And whether some like it or not the Chlois theory does exist and there needs to be a way to distinguish between the characters considering the fact that there is a difference of opinion as to which character is the real Lois Lane.

Sorry, it's not bashing.

The term EDLois should not be used outside of the Chlois debate and it should only be used when comparing two versions of the character.

It is bashing because it implies that Erica Durance, the girl who was hand picked by comic guru Jeph Loeb to play Lois Lane on Smallville and the girl who listened to Margot Kidder whisper, "You hit it out of the ballpark, kid," will find out someday that her role as Lois Lane was all an elaborate hoax.

[Timester]

Again, that is personal opinion about a term that is permitted. And whether some like it or not the Chlois theory does exist and there needs to be a way to distinguish between the characters considering the fact that there is a difference of opinion as to which character is the real Lois Lane.

Sorry, it's not bashing.

There is one billed Lois Lane on the show, not two.

Therefore, it IS bashing.


No, because it involves the characters and has nothing to do with the actresses.

No, it does involve the actresses, because only one can be Lois Lane, not two.

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... i dont see how calling her erica durances lois can be called bashing... she IS erica durances lois!

No, she IS Lois Lane. It's how she is credited. Simple as that. It's belitting the fans of the characters, the exact same reason why this thread was created in the first place.

[pizzahead2490]

see this only comes to opinion some say it is bashing and other say its not... you will think your self is the one in the right...

[THE"Lurker"]

LoL:lol:

"And once more a thread turns Chlois whats the count now "1,677,998 threads and counting":confused:

"On the show they're cousins, on the boards they're enemies":cool:

[SnowBird]

We also get to a point where oversensitivity gets ridiculous.

I guess I'm really uncomfortable with having to give up terms used from the very beginning that were never intended to bait some other fan group around here. It's like, too much censorship is too much. The names intended to bait other people are bad, whereas names like BDA or even The MB (for Lionel Luthor) are names that even the actors themselves would laugh and agree with.

I just seriously don't think BDA is anything but affectionate. But that's just my opinion, and I will listen to all opinions, I just don't happen to agree.

I guess you might be aiming at me since I replied about your Clark thread. I have been in a simular situation. I have a forum as well and it's fairly new and not many people have seen it. One of the threads is about the Scot-Irish history and coming to America. The title and throughout the written content, I had "Scotch-Irish" which I have seen in articles and on the internet. Low and behold a lady from Scotland sent me an e-mail and told me that it should be "Scot-Irish" and not "Scotch-Irish." I didn't change the spelling for a couple of days but then I got to thinking about it. This nice lady had taken the time to tell me of the error and I wouldn't want to offend her or any Scot or Scot-Irish so I changed it. Believe me, I had a lot of changing to do. I could have ignored the whole thing as I didn't have to change anything since it is my forum, but as a tribute to my ancestors and the people of Scotland and Ireland I swallowed my pride and did the right thing. I am a stubborn person but not too stuborn to right a wrong.

Sorry this is so long but it has proven my point that some things need changing when it is offensive to others. BDA (Big Dumb Alien) is offensive to others when used to describe Clark Kent.

Thank you...SnowBird

[ColdPlay3r]

i hate this thread, i luv u all:)

do pple noe the difference between opinions and bashing ?

[Timester]

see this only comes to opinion some say it is bashing and other say its not... you will think your self is the one in the right...

Actually, this is nothing more than politicizing the thread for personal crusades.

And that's all I'll say without breaking rules.

[morena]

I used EDLois many times... as THLois...KBLois.... I never thought it was offensive... anyway... it really depends on the context.


yes, especially for us that we are Chlois supporter.

[Timester]

"And once more a thread turns Chlois whats the count now "1,677,998 threads and counting":confused:

I'm happy I'm not the only one to see it.

[pizzahead2490]

i hate this thread, i luv u all:)

do pple noe the difference between opinions and bashing ?

interesting question.... like i said opinions.

not one person is always right.

i think if someone is saying why they dont like my ship or fave chracter i should be able to say the same thing.

[ginevrakent]

i went on the chlois thread about twice in my life time and i was not paying attenshion to any thing they say. and when i use the term EDlois its only cuz i want to stae the diff between the diff lois that played the chracter. i also say THlois and MKlois, is that offensive?

There's nothing wrong with using EDLois to distinguish between actresses playing Lois Lane in a discussion about Superman in other media. If no comparisons are being made, the term should not be used for the simple reason that there would be no need to clarify which Lois you're talking about. I know this has been said before, but no one feels the need to call Clark TWClark or Lana KKLana outside of comparing them to CRClark or DCClark or BRClark or AOLana.

In short, you're not offending anyone if you use EDLois to compare Erica to all the other actresses who got the amazing opportunity to play such an iconic character as Lois Lane.

[Kalista]

I called it and I'm done now.

[battlecat403@yahoo.com]

Well, Erica is not Lois, which would be handy to remember.
Of course she is. Who has the name credit of Lois Lane? Erica Durance. Who appears in conventions with Margot kidder? Erica Durance. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't mean that Erica Durance isn't Lois Lane. She is.



The term really refers to Lois not being Iconic Lois though. That's about the writing of the character.
Why does there have to be a term for this? Why can't you simply just express it through a conversation. Even if you feel that Erica Durance is not Lois, you do not need to continually remind people through your the use of an offensive term.



It's not a personal attack on the actress.
That is your opinion. Others here have clearly stated that this is what it is to them.




I'd be a lot more sympathetic to this complaint if I felt it was anything more than a straw dog strategy to complain about people having a different opinion.
Again, this is your opinion. If it was so simple, then I would argue why not call Chloe "Chloogle" -- that is after all what she is? She's the go to person for information. Or why not call Lana "Blahna" that is after all what her character has become, boring and repetitive.

But these terms are not acceptable because they offend, promote hostility and squander chances of having rational discussions. We all can do without petty name calling, and at the end of the day, that's all a term like "EDLois" is when it is not being used appropriately (in pairing with TWClark and KKLana)


What's the name Erica's credit has? Yep, Lois Lane.

Therefore, "Nois" is bashing Erica, just to rise the importance of other actress on the show, there is no other way to read it.
Exactly. And here we are already proving that EDLois is not used to distinguish but to discredit.

If you do not like this Lois then you can state so through rational discussion.

Name calling is just very unnecessary and it adds tension to the board. I'm sure Lois Lane fans would feel offended if we ban "Lana Fang Fu", "Choogle," "Blahna" etc, but keep "EDLois" when Lois fans are stating that they feel very offended by the term.

[Hopefulsuicide]

No, she IS Lois Lane. It's how she is credited. Simple as that. It's belitting the fans of the characters, the exact same reason why this thread was created in the first place.

so let me get this straight... are you denying that she is Erica Durance's Lois Lane... cause i must say on the behalf of Erica Durance that i would find fans not permiting a distinction between her interepretation and others and insult

i think that saying she is THAT actresses Lois is attributing that actress with the credit... which i think is respecting the actresses work...

[KSiteTV]

Please don't turn this thread into other fandom wars.

The original intent of this post was to get people to stop baiting one another... that is the topic. Maybe it should be closed?

[Black Panda]

TIIC isn't used in years.
And has the terms disfavor resulted in people expressing a general high opinion of the quality of the writing on the show? Has it lack made KSite a more friendly place to post? Or is it just trivia irrelevant to the main point that nick names are not the problem? It is fan on fan attacks for having differing opinions that is the problem.

One last thought. Focus on nicknames, rather than one's mode of expression makes it far to easy to focus attention on protecting just one character or opinion. Focus on how people talk to one another is trickier, but ultimately more rewarding.

[THE"Lurker"]

i hate this thread, i luv u all:)

do pple noe the difference between opinions and bashing ?

That is the best thing anyone has said in here:lol::cool:

[battlecat403@yahoo.com]

Please don't turn this thread into other fandom wars.

The original intent of this post was to get people to stop baiting one another... that is the topic. Maybe it should be closed?
No, please do not close it. I think it poses valuable information for everyone to know what offends people. I think this thread just needs to be monitored very closely.

[ginevrakent]

I just wanted to say that even though we do disagree and offend one another sometimes, I really do love having such a passionate fandom to interact with through this site. We're all human and we make mistakes, but we can all resolve to do better and be a little more sensitive to others' feelings. I know I'll try my best.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Please don't turn this thread into other fandom wars.

The original intent of this post was to get people to stop baiting one another... that is the topic. Maybe it should be closed?

i feel bad because i can see what you were trying to do... there is a lot of harsh and unneccesary bashing going on... but what the thread has opened up is a lot of subjective and biased opinions of what is 'bashing' that some shippers and fans of characters are going to back till the cows come home... it's very very hard

[ColdPlay3r]

this thread think this thread should be closed casue every1 has on opinion on opinions and bashing and cats

we should all just go back to our shipper threads were we arnt criticized by the language we use
:)

[THE"Lurker"]

Please don't turn this thread into other fandom wars.

The original intent of this post was to get people to stop baiting one another... that is the topic. Maybe it should be closed?

ITA:confused::\

[Timester]

And has the terms disfavor resulted in people expressing a general high opinion of the quality of the writing on the show? Has it lack made KSite a more friendly place to post? Or is it just trivia irrelevant to the main point that nick names are not the problem? It is fan on fan attacks for having differing opinions that is the problem.

Two things:

- Report button
- Defend your point without being abusive. Just check my historial from the past two weeks an see it for yourself

[THE"Lurker"]

this thread think this thread should be closed casue every1 has on opinion on opinions and bashing and cats

we should all just go back to our shipper threads were we arnt criticized by the language we use
:)

'Im Game' for that:cool:

[drew24]

Please don't turn this thread into other fandom wars.

The original intent of this post was to get people to stop baiting one another... that is the topic. Maybe it should be closed?

Newbie here!!...ummm I think you should have made your post from the beginning and closed it....Rule and Impliment. All you need to do is get the message out there and warning to all. That's all!=)

[pizzahead2490]

i just honestly think the term "bashing" is usesd way to often for things that is not. imo.

[KSiteTV]

Focus on how people talk to one another is trickier, but ultimately more rewarding.

I agree 100%. And that's a very good note on which to close this post.

Any other comments or concerns on it, PM me :)