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Reeve_290
01-23-2009, 07:08 AM
Okay, I understand Lana haters must be pretty pissed right now. I'm pro-Lana, I don't mind Clana and even I thought the scene was rather random, coming out of nowhere. But it is NOT like everyone wasn't forewarned!

Just about everyone would have seen the Legion/Bulletproof trailer - probably multiple times. Therefore Lana haters must have known the kiss was coming, so why are you all "OMGing" and acting totally taken aback and surprised?

Plus, with Lana coming back for 5 episodes in the first place, can you honestly say that (even if the Legion/Bulletproof trailer hadn't revealed the kiss) you weren't expecting one at some point anyway?

After the scene heaps of people are saying PS3 are just AlMiles 2.0. In my opinion thats seriously petulant and childish. Just cos the new creaters have done one thing you don't like, you boycott their creativity? It would be like me saying, because PS3 continued the Chimmy relationship they're clones of AlMiles! No. The truth is PS3 have produced a pretty good season (so far) all things considered and the last three minutes of one episode isn't gonna tarnish that.

All they're doing is finishing off the Clana relationship properly, so I reckon everyone (except Chlarkers :p Aw poor Chloe, not even really considered :() will be happy - Clana fans cos Lana and Clark get a good send off that hopefully wont involve a bloody video tape, and Clois fans cos Lana's finally out of the picture after Kristin's 5 episodes are up.

So all that considered rationally, is the Clana kiss really all that bad?

SPOILER WARNING: For those who saw the kiss in the Legion/Bulletproof trailer and somehow still managed to be surprised when it actually happened, chances are that (seeing as there's a photo of Clark and Lana kissing featured in the Power archive) they're gonna be lip-locking in that episode too. So consider yourself warned. Don't freak out when it actually happens :p

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 07:13 AM
Well, I knew the kiss was coming, I just didnt like Clark wanting to feel 14, again. WTF is up with that?
A grown ass man wanting to be 14 again is sick IMO.lol

krpto
01-23-2009, 07:34 AM
Well, I knew the kiss was coming, I just didnt like Clark wanting to feel 14, again. WTF is up with that?
A grown ass man wanting to be 14 again is sick IMO.lol
Exactly and him yet again talking abot wanting his life with lana over what best for the world if anything this episode should have taught him that its possible to save the world and have a life not put one over the other yet he's still talking about choosing lana over the world and not letting the world come firt clark really needs to grow up and realize he can be a hero and have a life if cops can get married and have kids and be happily married when they are constantly risking theyre lifes clark should learn that he can be happy with whoever and protect the world especially when he has invulnerabilty not the cops don't have to keep them safe and there loved ones happy.

Cogito17
01-23-2009, 07:44 AM
He never said he wanted to put Lana ABOVE the world, he just wants to be able to balance saving lives with a life of his own. As was said earlier in the season, and during this episode, Clark's desire to save people has been all consuming. He doesn't want to give that up, he just wants to find a way to balance it better with a real life, as was somewhat suggested to him by MM. I don't know what episode you watched, but the episode was aimed at exactly what you said. To quote from Clark, "Maybe it doesn't have to be all or nothing". He isn't putting the world ahead of Lana, he is doing exactly what you asked for, realizing that he can balance both.

And nowhere did Clark say "Gee, I wish I were a 14 year old boy!", they were simply reminiscing about old times.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 07:59 AM
meh.lol

Alania
01-23-2009, 08:15 AM
After the scene heaps of people are saying PS3 are just AlMiles 2.0. In my opinion thats seriously petulant and childish. Just cos the new creaters have done one thing you don't like, you boycott their creativity? It would be like me saying, because PS3 continued the Chimmy relationship they're clones of AlMiles! No. The truth is PS3 have produced a pretty good season (so far) all things considered and the last three minutes of one episode isn't gonna tarnish that.

So all that considered rationally, is the Clana kiss really all that bad?

SPOILER WARNING: For those who saw the kiss in the Legion/Bulletproof trailer and somehow still managed to be surprised when it actually happened, chances are that (seeing as there's a photo of Clark and Lana kissing featured in the Power archive) they're gonna be lip-locking in that episode too. So consider yourself warned. Don't freak out when it actually happens :p

Who come up with AlGough 2.0??!! My word, after all we've seen in this season 8! Plus, after yesterday, something tells me things will only get better for Lois and Clark, despite the second liplock
Calum, i really laughed at your post: consider yourselves warned!!! Looks like the end is near and we must prepare! That was nice, thanks! There's one thing i won't do: eat during the episode, cause i grabbed myself a snack yesterday on the second half and the food had a hard time going down.

I don't mind Lana coming back as much as i mind clana kiss. Lana ok, she can get her sendoff, finish her role in Smallville and get a closure with Clark. But, TWO kisses???!!!. That was too much! One is acceptable, but two...So, my answer to your question is: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2300/rantkp9.gif

Kreukie
01-23-2009, 08:16 AM
He never said he wanted to put Lana ABOVE the world, he just wants to be able to balance saving lives with a life of his own. .

Yeah, the exact thing he ends up doing with Lois later on in life, settling down and marrying her, while still being Superman.

But since that considered regression, then I guess canon needs to change! :eek:

Timester
01-23-2009, 08:17 AM
Yeah, the same thing he ends up doing with Lois, settling down and marrying her, while still being Superman.

But since that considered regression, then I guess canon needs to change! :eek:

ITA

Kreukie
01-23-2009, 08:19 AM
ITA

What does ITA mean? Sorry, I see that a lot and I have no idea what it means.:\

Timester
01-23-2009, 08:22 AM
What does ITA mean? Sorry, I see that a lot and I have no idea what it means.:\

I totally agree.

HowardFilms
01-23-2009, 08:25 AM
Shoo Lana. Don't bother me.

krpto
01-23-2009, 08:30 AM
maybe I need to rewatch the episode but I didn't get lets save the world together I got forget the rest of the world all I want is you lana and I couldn't care less about anyone else. And that is the regression I was talking about yes clark should have a life but when lana tells him the world needs him that they canget coffee and be together later clark would rather ignore the world and kiss lana instead of going saving the world and then kissing lana or whoever he may choose to kiss.

Timester
01-23-2009, 08:32 AM
maybe I need to rewatch the episode but I didn't get lets save the world together I got forget the rest of the world all I want is you lana and I couldn't care less about anyone else. And that is the regression I was talking about yes clark should have a life but when lana tells him the world needs him that they canget coffee and be together later clark would rather ignore the world and kiss lana instead of going saving the world and then kissing lana or whoever he may choose to kiss.

Clark Kent: "Maybe it hasn't to be all or nothing."

Right there. Clearly shows that Clark is thinking about balance, just like the one Danny has on his life. The one that Clark will have with Lois.

Kreukie
01-23-2009, 08:34 AM
maybe I need to rewatch the episode but I didn't get lets save the world together I got forget the rest of the world all I want is you lana and I couldn't care less about anyone else. And that is the regression I was talking about yes clark should have a life but when lana tells him the world needs him that they canget coffee and be together later clark would rather ignore the world and kiss lana instead of going saving the world and then kissing lana or whoever he may choose to kiss.

Wait, what? So Clark shouldn't had kissed Lana, he should had just left to save the world.

So when Clark gets married to Lois, he shouldn't kiss her or spend time with her, all his free time should be given to saving the world?

Seriously, what's the point of Clark settling down and getting married to Lois if he's going to always be off saving lives and never actually sending time with her. :confused:

krpto
01-23-2009, 08:38 AM
Wait, what? So Clark shouldn't had kissed Lana, he should had just left to save the world.

So when Clark gets married to Lois, he shouldn't kiss her or spend time with her, all his free time should be given to saving the world?

Seriously, what's the point of Clark settling down and getting married to Lois if he's going to always be off saving lives and never actually sending time with her. :confused:

There a difference to kissing her and then going to save the world and hearing her say the world needs you and him just standing there like so what all I want to do or will do is kiss you the world can take care of its self I don't care about it at all. I think they should have kissed then had him go to savwe someone not end the episode with him kissing her and making it clear thats all he wants that he only will be a hero when force to now. But then again maybe thats not what the writers were going for with thagt scene and I need to rewatch it even if the thought of watching it again hurts my brain.

KryptonTim06
01-23-2009, 08:43 AM
Let's be honest: Lana really can't do anything in Smallville with being involved in a romance of some kind.

Now, I'm not a Lana hater. It is just the way the character is written in the show, and has been written for the past 7 years. So, no surprises here.

On the same token, We will have to see how this plays out in the overall arc of these episodes. Because, she's here for two more and then she's up and outie!!!

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 08:47 AM
I was pleasantly surprised by their kiss!! Yes, it was actually a good thing for Clois, and I'll tell you why.

There was absolutely no passion behind it whatsoever, and when they pulled away for the first time that I've ever seen with Lana and Clark there were no lovey dovey looks from either of them.

Both were thinking the same thing, something's missing. Clark was trying to convince himself that he's still in love with Lana during his and Chloe's discussion. That's the one positive thing that came out of that as well. It told me that Clark is hanging on more than pursuing. I think this is the start of the realization on his part that he's not "in love" with Lana anymore but that he's more or less hanging on to the past.

The writers/director made it clear last night that this was not a "I'm so in love with you kiss" but more of a "gee, this sort of left me a little cold" kiss.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


Clark Kent: "Maybe it hasn't to be all or nothing."

Right there. Clearly shows that Clark is thinking about balance, just like the one Danny has on his life. The one that Clark will have with Lois.

I agree with this completely. I paid attention to the "in between the lines" last night, and that's exactly my take too.

Like Martha Kent once said to Lois, "you have to go through all the wrong "men" to recognize the "right" one, and that's what we're beginning to see with Clark now. I was pleasantly surprised last night. The hints were there for sure.

Kreukie
01-23-2009, 08:51 AM
There was absolutely no passion behind it whatsoever, and when they pulled away for the first time that I've ever seen with Lana and Clark there were no lovey dovey looks from either of them.

That's all in the eye of the beholder, because I didn't see it like that at ALL and reading the Clana fans relations on youtube and over at SWEET nor did they! They all saw the kiss to be very passionate and with a lot meaning, likewise with the stare afterward.

suzieQ
01-23-2009, 08:57 AM
I was pleasantly surprised by their kiss!! Yes, it was actually a good thing for Clois, and I'll tell you why.

There was absolutely no passion behind it whatsoever, and when they pulled away for the first time that I've ever seen with Lana and Clark there were no lovey dovey looks from either of them.

Both were thinking the same thing, something's missing. Clark was trying to convince himself that he's still in love with Lana during his and Chloe's discussion. That's the one positive thing that came out of that as well. It told me that Clark is hanging on more than pursuing. I think this is the start of the realization on his part that he's not "in love" with Lana anymore but that he's more or less hanging on to the past.

The writers/director made it clear last night that this was not a "I'm so in love with you kiss" but more of a "gee, this sort of left me a little cold" kiss.


----- Added 2 Minutes later -----



I agree with this completely. I paid attention to the "in between the lines" last night, and that's exactly my take too.

Like Martha Kent once said to Lois, "you have to go through all the wrong "men" to recognize the "right" one, and that's what we're beginning to see with Clark now. I was pleasantly surprised last night. The hints were there for sure.


WOW.....Totally disagree! We must have been watching a different show!

The kiss was slow, soft, deep, open, sensuous.......then they both give each other their infamous nose nuzzle and forehead touch! Then THE STARE that Clark gives Lana......it rivaled the look before the Calling Kiss and the Mortal Kiss! The look Clark gave Lana would melt Steel, I tell you!

That was a kiss that only two people who deeply love each other give! "COLD?", my friends,......... there was nothing COLD about that kiss!

I guarantee you, if anyone gave you a kiss like that, I don't think you would consider it "COLD"!

This boggles my mind!

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 09:03 AM
That's all in the eye of the beholder, because I didn't see it like that at ALL and reading the Clana fans relations on youtube and over at SWEET nor did they! They all saw the kiss to be very passionate and with a lot meaning, likewise with the stare afterward.


I've been watching this show since S1, and there was zero passion in that kiss last night. Go back to youtube, and pull up kisses from older episodes. This was a "feeling it out" kiss. There is no debate. The writers are clearly stating that this is the end of Clana, and they're showing us the beginning of Clark realizing it. Quite honestly, I am happy from what I saw. TW can pour it on, boy, and obviously the director and writers clearly told the audience "something's missing".

Even from the camera angle!! They never zoomed in on their faces like they used to do to show the "lovey dovey" looks. I rewatched it in slow motion on my HDTV, and I can say with certainty that the look they had was a big old question mark!

It's my viewpoint, obviously you have a different one, and being a Clana fan I can understand why you want Clana to be the end all be all. There's another ship on the horizon, and last night made it clear to me that the USS Clois is coming full steam ahead!

Timester
01-23-2009, 09:05 AM
It was clearly a lovely kiss, but not a "in love" kiss. They love each other, but they moved on.

Which makes sense, which would be dumb to processed with Clana otherwise, 2 episodes before its end.

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 09:05 AM
WOW.....Totally disagree! We must have been watching a different show!

The kiss was slow, soft, deep, open, sensuous.......then they both give each other their infamous nose nuzzle and forehead touch! Then THE STARE that Clark gives Lana......it rivaled the look before the Calling Kiss and the Mortal Kiss! The look Clark gave Lana would melt Steel, I tell you!

That was a kiss that only two people who deeply love each other give! "COLD?", my friends,......... there was nothing COLD about that kiss!

I guarantee you, if anyone gave you a kiss like that, I don't think you would consider it "COLD"!

This boggles my mind!

I've seen these two kiss many times over, and this kiss was cold. No passion, stale as 5 day old bread on a counter top, plain and simple.

It made me so happy!:) The writers are turning the page! Clark is going to realize it on his own finally!

----- Added 45 Seconds later -----


It was clearly a lovely kiss, but not a "in love" kiss. They love each other, but they moved on.


I agree, Bruno! They'll always love each other, but they are definitely turning the page! I couldn't be happier this morning!

KryptonTim06
01-23-2009, 09:17 AM
I've seen these two kiss many times over, and this kiss was cold. No passion, stale as 5 day old bread on a counter top, plain and simple.

It made me so happy!:) The writers are turning the page! Clark is going to realize it on his own finally!

----- Added 45 Seconds later -----




I agree, Bruno! They'll always love each other, but they are definitely turning the page! I couldn't be happier this morning!

A stale kiss? Hmmmm . . . I have to watch this episode again. How interesting . . .

Eyzi-33.1
01-23-2009, 09:34 AM
Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! why did they have to make them kiss i so hate the script writers i mean making clark and lana kiss???????? what is wrong with them i mean sure lana and clark were okey for a short period of time but not in season 8 thats way to late for them to start dating.Clark and Lois should just be beginning to kiss they're makin clark look like a bad ass by making him almost kiss lois and then making him kiss lana eventually breaking lois's heart removing all hope of them ever being together.

Kyogre
01-23-2009, 09:51 AM
Clana is forever.

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 09:51 AM
Clana is forever.

Actually, it's not. It's about to come to an end.:lol:

Iluvgreen
01-23-2009, 09:53 AM
It's not really the kiss itself, it's what led to it and everything. Like he's gonna love Lana until she leaves, but then go after Lois as a rebound. But I doubt that will happen. I get we can bare just one more jiss, hopefully being a goodbye, and Clark tells her he just wants to be friends or something. Then us Cloisers can be happy.

pizzahead2490
01-23-2009, 09:54 AM
i am just mad that its clark initieted the kiss

Kyogre
01-23-2009, 09:59 AM
i am just mad that its clark initieted the kiss

*initiated & of course he did lana is the bomb.

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 10:00 AM
i am just mad that its clark initieted the kiss

Don't be!!! It's all good!!! Clark did, and when he pulled away he knew that it's not the same.

I'm glad they kissed, because it's going to prove to Clark that his feelings for Lana have "actually" changed. He's been in this almost dream state since she returned, and by kissing her he's getting a dose of "reality".

Trust me, it was clearly passionless. You've seen these two kiss before, and this was just touching lips.....no breathing heavy, no embrace, no shot of the camera moving further away "to give them privacy" and just no desire! I'm happy!:D It's the beginning of Clark moving on...just like Oliver said in Bride to Lois!

velocity
01-23-2009, 10:10 AM
Don't be!!! It's all good!!! Clark did, and when he pulled away he knew that it's not the same.

I'm glad they kissed, because it's going to prove to Clark that his feelings for Lana have "actually" changed. He's been in this almost dream state since she returned, and by kissing her he's getting a dose of "reality".

Trust me, it was clearly passionless. You've seen these two kiss before, and this was just touching lips.....no breathing heavy, no embrace, no shot of the camera moving further away "to give them privacy" and just no desire! I'm happy!:D It's the beginning of Clark moving on...just like Oliver said in Bride to Lois!
You're wrong.

Your reasoning doesn't make any sense.. since they kiss in an intimate embrace the next episode.

Why would they, if they both felt it wasn't the same after that kiss?
I suppose you're gonna tell me that Clark is in denial, and kiss her again to convince himself that he is in love with Lana. :lol:

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 10:19 AM
You're wrong.

Your reasoning doesn't make any sense.. since they kiss in an intimate embrace the next episode.

Why would they, if they both felt it wasn't the same after that kiss?
I suppose you're gonna tell me that Clark is in denial, and kiss her again to convince himself that he is in love with Lana. :lol:


So, if you're going by spoilers and not what we actually saw last night then Clark clearly doesn't love Lana anymore because Hex...how hard he has fallen for Lois and S8...after an almost kiss with Lois lust and emotions are flying

My post is about what I saw last night, and I'm not wrong at all!:D Actually, thanks for bringing up the spoilers, because now it all makes perfect sense!!

velocity
01-23-2009, 10:34 AM
So, if you're going by spoilers and not what we actually saw last night then Clark clearly doesn't love Lana anymore because Hex...how hard he has fallen for Lois and S8...after an almost kiss with Lois lust and emotions are flying

My post is about what I saw last night, and I'm not wrong at all!:D Actually, thanks for bringing up the spoilers, because now it all makes perfect sense!!
I'll attach a picture from last night's episode.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/140/clbulletproofys0.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clbulletproofys0.jpg)

Can you honestly tell me that you think Clark's stare says "Oh my god, It's not the same".
It's an intense and confident stare.

candor
01-23-2009, 10:36 AM
lois should come back and just beat the hell out of lana.

adidastec9
01-23-2009, 10:41 AM
suprise no

but i dont understand how clana fans exist...whatever

;)

Alania
01-23-2009, 10:43 AM
I'll attach a picture from last night's episode.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/140/clbulletproofys0.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clbulletproofys0.jpg)

Can you honestly tell me that you think Clark's stare says "Oh my god, It's not the same".
It's an intense and confident stare.


Have you heard of a saying "a picture is worth a thousand words?" So, that means your interpretation is not exactly the same as ours. It's just yours. I see doubt, on both sides, despite the tenderness. So, that narrows it down to 998 words.:D


lois should come back and just beat the hell out of lana.

ITA!!!!! Let's just give her a call, i'm sure Jimmy won't mind at all!

tbird4u
01-23-2009, 10:45 AM
I'll attach a picture from last night's episode.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/140/clbulletproofys0.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clbulletproofys0.jpg)

Can you honestly tell me that you think Clark's stare says "Oh my god, It's not the same".
It's an intense and confident stare.

I can because when you watch it, he crinkles his eyebrows like he is confused... therefore he cant honestly say him and lana are meant to be... its okay it will all come to play in the next 2 episodes :D

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 10:47 AM
I'll attach a picture from last night's episode.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/140/clbulletproofys0.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clbulletproofys0.jpg)

Can you honestly tell me that you think Clark's stare says "Oh my god, It's not the same".
It's an intense and confident stare.


There's no doubt in my mind, especially with this picture!! They're both looking at each other with a big question mark over their head! Thanks!:lol:

velocity
01-23-2009, 10:54 AM
:lol:

You guys are so hilarious.

Have you heard of a saying "You see what you want to see".

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----


I'd say that about sums up your own posts!:lol:
Sure, Sure.

That is the final shot of the episode.. Clark's final expression after the kiss.
If we were to show it to a group of completely unbiased people, who don't watch this show.. and ask them to describe his expression. None of them would say "He looks unsure, like a total question mark".

Kton4
01-23-2009, 10:58 AM
The last scene with Lana and Clark was HORRIBLE!! Its time for Clark to grow up and let her go! GO LOIS!!

pizzahead2490
01-23-2009, 10:59 AM
it was more than horrible it was like the world ended as we know it :\ ugh!! i hate lana

Timester
01-23-2009, 10:59 AM
:lol:

You guys are so hilarious.

Have you heard of a saying "You see what you want to see".

Right back to you.

Unless you are one of the writers, both specs are valid until further notice.

velocity
01-23-2009, 11:06 AM
So many excuses :rolleyes:
This kiss was not some sort of realization for either of them.
Something that happens in the remaining episodes will be.
Something that will cause Lana to leave and Clark letting her.

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 11:11 AM
Last night's episode was the defining moment, the beginning of the end!

I am just pumped today!! That kiss had so much meaning in it, and the meaning of course that it's time that both move on. There's nothing left for them. I applaud the writers for that! Thank you for giving the fans of the legendary love of Lois Lane and Clark Kent/Superman a beacon of hope. I look forward to their discussion of ending it for good, and ushering back in the one, the only Lois Lane!:D;)

Again, I'll say that Clark was stronger last night too. I'm happy to see that as well.:)

Timester
01-23-2009, 11:13 AM
So many excuses :rolleyes:
This kiss was not some sort of realization for either of them.
Something that happens in the remaining episodes will be.
Something that will cause Lana to leave and Clark letting her.

Again, right back to you.

davidbrenton
01-23-2009, 11:15 AM
It sucked, plain and simple. CLASSIC BAIT & SWITCH, SEASON 8.

rdulle
01-23-2009, 11:41 AM
Last night's episode was the defining moment, the beginning of the end!

I am just pumped today!! That kiss had so much meaning in it, and the meaning of course that it's time that both move on. There's nothing left for them. I applaud the writers for that! Thank you for giving the fans of the legendary love of Lois Lane and Clark Kent/Superman a beacon of hope. I look forward to their discussion of ending it for good, and ushering back in the one, the only Lois Lane!:D;)

Again, I'll say that Clark was stronger last night too. I'm happy to see that as well.:)

Totally agree. No passion in the kiss. A realization that it's time to move on for the both of them.

redeem147
01-23-2009, 11:45 AM
I have nothing against Lana, she just doesn't work for me with Clark. So, I found the ending of the episode disappointing.

I hadn't seen the trailer. We don't get trailer's on the Canadian feed I watch.

Showmaster
01-23-2009, 11:50 AM
Loved the kiss.

Allways loved Clana..

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 11:56 AM
Totally agree. No passion in the kiss. A realization that it's time to move on for the both of them.


Once the smoke clears, I think they'll be no denying what we saw last night!!;)

SparkleforSmallville
01-23-2009, 11:57 AM
Clark is growing up, no-one matures all at once, and letting go of Lana is why they are having this closure Arc.
I think it is being handled very tastefully, and Clark will be ready to move toward Lois with no regrets.

melissan02
01-23-2009, 11:58 AM
^^ Don't let him in Lois, you stay strong girl!!!

This boy is not worthy of you!!!

damara531
01-23-2009, 12:06 PM
The last scene with Lana and Clark was HORRIBLE!! Its time for Clark to grow up and let her go! GO LOIS!!

Amen! I was so irritated with the whole scene beginning right where Officer Danny asks Clark if he's got someone who "makes it all worth it". I about heaved. I mean WHAT is it going to take for Clark to finally figure it out? I completely accept what Chloe said earlier in the episode about understanding the need get closure...but this is completely different. This isn't a step in the right direction by any means. Everytime the word Lana even comes up in an episode since she finally left it's set Clark back from all the progress he's made...and now she magically reappears (clearly hiding her true motives--which isn't a new development for her character) and suddenly he's ready and willing to throw away everything he's learned about his responsibility to the world and his destiny to stand up to protect the greater good! What the heck happened!? I mean did I miss the part where her coming back meant anything substantial to his development as the Man of Steel? When oh when will the torture end? I just hope that the writers can remedy the damage Lana's return has caused to Clark's character in the next two episodes...although I don't know how they'll be able to unravel 8 years of irreparable harm in two hours. Sorry guys....I really needed to rant :o

tarrow21
01-23-2009, 12:10 PM
That was the best thing ever - LOVED when Danny asked Clark that question and Clark smiles and goes to Lana :D just perfect.

petitemimi
01-23-2009, 12:12 PM
All they're doing is finishing off the Clana relationship properly, so I reckon everyone (except Chlarkers :p Aw poor Chloe, not even really considered :() will be happy - Clana fans cos Lana and Clark get a good send off that hopefully wont involve a bloody video tape, and Clois fans cos Lana's finally out of the picture after Kristin's 5 episodes are up.

I'm sorry. LANA gets a good send-off. At Clark's expense. And people are disappointed because they put too much fate in those writers to do a proper end to clana where both would agree that they're not the right person for each other. With 2 episodes left, it looks like it won't happen, considering the spoilers. And I'm not a shipper.


So all that considered rationally, is the Clana kiss really all that bad?

Yes. It felt like someone is trying to make me swallow something that I already ate.

rajman
01-23-2009, 12:12 PM
i guess it does get abit frustrating but our watching of 8 seasons will soon pay off. although the writers have to do something good to maintain the ratings.

Iluvgreen
01-23-2009, 12:39 PM
That was the stupidest ending.... it's like deja vu. I can't stand it anymore.

Radioflyer
01-23-2009, 12:43 PM
The last scene with Lana and Clark was HORRIBLE!! Its time for Clark to grow up and let her go! GO LOIS!!I thought it was funny because I knew it would burn up all the Lana haters.

Blugolds22
01-23-2009, 12:43 PM
I'm really sick of this Clana stuff. I'll be glad when she's gone so Lois and Clark can be together.

mistaguitarmasta
01-23-2009, 12:51 PM
I've been loving this season and I've never really hated Lana like lots of other people here do, but last night I really felt annoyed and almost angry that they were rehashing Clana once again. It is now overdone. Clark said he had been spending too much time over the last year thinking about everyone but himself. My initial reaction was "WHAT?!" If anything, he only just started thinking about others in the last few months. I know Lana is leaving very soon (2 more episodes) and that Clark will undoubtedly get over her and move on, but I still feel that this was a totally unnecessary regression, and frankly I'm shocked that PS3 would let this happen after all their efforts to have Clark move so much closer to his destiny.

doomvskal86
01-23-2009, 01:04 PM
I'm 100% with this is a major step back, and clark has to realize she is not the one. From what I heard in the last trailer I think Lana is going to be breaking it off with clark. Hopefully it happens soon

mrw66855
01-23-2009, 01:05 PM
Last night's episode was the defining moment, the beginning of the end!

I am just pumped today!! That kiss had so much meaning in it, and the meaning of course that it's time that both move on. There's nothing left for them. I applaud the writers for that! Thank you for giving the fans of the legendary love of Lois Lane and Clark Kent/Superman a beacon of hope. I look forward to their discussion of ending it for good, and ushering back in the one, the only Lois Lane!:D;)

Again, I'll say that Clark was stronger last night too. I'm happy to see that as well.:)

I do not know I will have to watch the episode again. Hopefully I can watch the scene without vomiting (figuratively of course) again. The first time I watched it I thought, they still had feelings for each other. But your posts, give me hope that Lois is just not the second pick for Clark.

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 01:07 PM
I thought the kiss was very tender. For once Clark had the guts to do something he wanted.

Mad Madam Mimm
01-23-2009, 01:12 PM
AHHH! My first instinct: To yell "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" at the TV and run for the hills. But I will reserve judgment (and re-watch the ep like 5 times) and put my faith in PS3 to continue their trend of taking us in a different direction. I find it very interesting that so many found the kiss cold. While cold was not the first thing that came to my mind, I was left with the impression that their kiss was a little off and could not put my finger on why. Only a serious re-watch will firm that up for me.
I will keep my faith in PS3 until proven otherwise.

Bre723
01-23-2009, 01:13 PM
I wasn't surprised by the kiss at all, I kinda think we all were expecting it sooner or later.
I don't mind Clana, and obviously it wont last the whole season.
So I really don't mind.

sithius
01-23-2009, 01:23 PM
There is nothing wrong with what Clark said about finding a balance, but what was incredibly wrong was his statement:

'Maybe the world doesn't need to come first'

Yes, Lois and Superman are married in the comics. Yes, he loves her with all his heart. Yes, there is a balance. But, Superman would always go for the greater good over Lois. Whereas according to what Clark said here, if it was between saving the world or Queen Lana, then Lana would be saved. Superman in the comics however, would save the world.

fa8362
01-23-2009, 01:24 PM
If you perceive something to be $%&#, knowing it's coming doesn't make it more palatable. To you, it's still $%&#.

myloveahmed
01-23-2009, 01:25 PM
I am so disappointed...!!!

melissan02
01-23-2009, 01:25 PM
There is nothing wrong with what Clark said about finding a balance, but what was incredibly wrong was his statement:

'Maybe the world doesn't need to come first'

Yes, Lois and Superman are married in the comics. Yes, he loves her with all his heart. Yes, there is a balance. But, Superman would always go for the greater good over Lois. Whereas according to what Clark said here, if it was between saving the world or Queen Lana, then Lana would be saved. Superman in the comics however, would save the world.

That's why this is no man who will become Superman! It took 3 minutes at the end of last night's episode to prove that!! Pathetic!:mad:

Ray Man
01-23-2009, 01:32 PM
The person whom has been texting/e-mailing Lana must be her boss because, Lana would be smart and not come back to Smallville at all if she were free, imo. Plus, she's breaking all her own rules about how she & Clark would never work out, and as long as she's around he can't accept his Destiny!

Cage
01-23-2009, 01:36 PM
Clark & Lois end up together - that is the end of this discussion - we went back 2 years with the ending scene - shame on TPTB - they could have done so much with the Lana caharacter and they chose not to take that road and instead made the character stale - shame on them

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 01:44 PM
I thought the scene was beautiful and yes Clark and Lois end up together but this is is Smallville not Metropolis Clark shouldn't even really know Lois right now. If anything he should have just met her since he's now actually working at the Daily Planet.

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 01:51 PM
We have to remember though that Clark isn't Superman yet. Yes when he's Superman he chooses the greater good over Lois. And last night when he said that to Lana he was choosing Lana over the world, but we have to remember Clark isn't Superman he's following right now his human heart not his hero heart. He's still a MAN not a Superman yet.

Ray Man
01-23-2009, 02:02 PM
It sounds to me like TPTB aren't staying as true to the mythology as they should be. Yes, I know that this is their show, and it's a rebooted version of the story of Clark becoming Superman, but at least try to keep w/the mythos is all I'm saying lol.

Tompouce
01-23-2009, 02:07 PM
Clark is growing up, no-one matures all at once, and letting go of Lana is why they are having this closure Arc.
I think it is being handled very tastefully, and Clark will be ready to move toward Lois with no regrets.
EXACTLY. Clark has to know for good he is not in love anymore. You can't let go a 7 years story love like this. You have to be sure. Now he has to think of it and face the truth...Is that easy ? NOOOO;)
Lois, come in, your soulmate needs you:p

velocity
01-23-2009, 02:10 PM
Again, right back to you.
What right back at me?
I just pointed out a simple fact.

The fact that they're kissing in the next episode is proof that their kiss in last nights episode wasn't the moment Clark realised that he's not in love with her anymore, and that it's never going to work between them.

That moment comes later, i would assume anyway - this storyline isn't what i expected actually.

Fly by guy
01-23-2009, 03:09 PM
Without a calculator, I can figure that Clark has been off the GoodnPlenty wagon a Long time. Should he be denied a little kiss after getting the shaft since season 5. He may one day be Superman, but right now he is a young man with needs.
All the snarled lips crying out against a minor event should pucker up for that which so many have been clamoring, a goodbye kiss to Lana, and not just from Clark, but those who have blamed her for every foolish thing he has done. Start waving, pucker up, only 2
episodes and Clark will be Perfect. No Lana, no longer your dreams, no lie.

smallvillefreak24
01-23-2009, 03:32 PM
I don't mind that he kissed but i do mind that he was like screw the rest of the world

Alicia Chipy
01-23-2009, 04:05 PM
All I can say is that I usually re-watch the SV episode after Supernatural. Last night I simply could not put myself thru that torture. I just plunged into a newly bought stack of Superman comics and allowed that Clois goodness to heal and sustain me.
Anyone else out there in need of a Clois fix, just buy Superman Beyond 3D,Final Crisis part 2. The final 2 pages will ease the Clana angst of the Last 3 minute scene in SV.

Jill
01-23-2009, 04:12 PM
That scene was not necessary...
That's my opinion.

Alicia Chipy
01-23-2009, 04:18 PM
That scene was not necessary...
That's my opinion.

ITA:mad:
THose threee minutes could have been used to clear up other loose ends in the plot.

LoveHurts38
01-23-2009, 04:22 PM
But, the kiss was not passionate.

SupaBoy
01-23-2009, 04:23 PM
EW

marcella
01-23-2009, 04:27 PM
I hated the last 3 minutes. If it wasn't for it,this episode was perfect

melissan02
01-23-2009, 04:32 PM
The last 3 minutes just took and threw an entire 70 year old mythos down the tubes!!:mad:

Cogito17
01-23-2009, 04:34 PM
If people really want Lois and Clark to have a solid relationship, I would rather have it be because Lana and Clark agreed to be friends, not because Lana dumped Clark.

The way things stood coming into this season was that Lana and Clark broke up NOT because they weren't in love romantically, or did not want a relationship with one another. Their relationship ended because Lana decided Clark's importance to the world was greater than his importance in their relationship. It ended due to circumstance, which would have left the lingering question; what if circumstance hadn't pushed them apart?

The two of them coming back together now gives them a chance to end the relationship in a way that won't leave lingering doubts. To quote from Ollie in Bride, "There is moving on in theory, then there is the point where it actually happens" (probably not word for word, but you get the point). It was clear throughout the first half of the season that Clark had not truly moved on from Lana. Clark and Lana back together will serve to demonstrate once and for all that they aren't meant to be, and erase the concept that they only broke up because of their circumstances.

This needs to happen if Clark and Lois are going to have a relationship that doesn't beg the question of what would have happened if Lana had stayed around.

NIGHTRAVENXLR1
01-23-2009, 04:50 PM
to be honest i dint like the kiss. but i knew its was coming.
but now a second kiss it beter be the kiss that makes him see its over between them!
four good!
i still think the kiss in bulletproof wasn't a clana kiss like we have seen a million times.
something was missing for sure.
lets hope know clark dos and in the next episode please!

ColdPlay3r
01-23-2009, 04:54 PM
me: wat the hell, that was gross
DOOMSDAY: i noe man, pass the bucket

BadToad
01-23-2009, 05:04 PM
Clark and Lana back together will serve to demonstrate once and for all that they aren't meant to be, and erase the concept that they only broke up because of their circumstances.

I'd like to ask you a question if I could...lets just say (and these are just assumptions) in the next few eps, we don't see a mutual parting of the ways but rather Lana being the one that makes the decision leaving behind a reluctant Clark, or there's a scenario that suggests that Clark and Lana can't be together due to circumstances outside of their control, even though they still wish they could. Would you still think this once more around was necessary, and a positive for the show, Clark's storyline, and any future relationship he has?

I think, perhaps, there are some people who still have faith that this will resolve itself in a manner that provides Clark with healthy closure, of which the parting is made of his own free will, and we can comfortably believe that he is ready to move on emotionally. And thats fine.

However, I think there are also some of us, like myself, who have completely no faith that this will happen, and in fact believe that what we saw in Bulletproof was exactly the path we most feared TPTB would take.

Now, of course, I could be wrong, to which I'll be more then happy to admit. :)

Its my belief that there were many ways to write an arc that wraps up Clark and Lana's relationship that respected them both, showed them both to be mature and strong, built a solid foundation for their future friendship, and didn't crap on any future relationships they have. IMO, what we are seeing? Is not one of those ways. YMMV

NIGHTRAVENXLR1
01-23-2009, 05:08 PM
If people really want Lois and Clark to have a solid relationship, I would rather have it be because Lana and Clark agreed to be friends, not because Lana dumped Clark.

The way things stood coming into this season was that Lana and Clark broke up NOT because they weren't in love romantically, or did not want a relationship with one another. Their relationship ended because Lana decided Clark's importance to the world was greater than his importance in their relationship. It ended due to circumstance, which would have left the lingering question; what if circumstance hadn't pushed them apart?

The two of them coming back together now gives them a chance to end the relationship in a way that won't leave lingering doubts. To quote from Ollie in Bride, "There is moving on in theory, then there is the point where it actually happens" (probably not word for word, but you get the point). It was clear throughout the first half of the season that Clark had not truly moved on from Lana. Clark and Lana back together will serve to demonstrate once and for all that they aren't meant to be, and erase the concept that they only broke up because of their circumstances.

This needs to happen if Clark and Lois are going to have a relationship that doesn't beg the question of what would have happened if Lana had stayed around.

i agree.
besides we now there r some sweet clois moments on the way.
can't wait
and they need to end it with class the hole lana thing i mean.
i am not a lana fan. but i think she deserves that much at least.
if not just for her fans.
lois is coming back and nothing is stopping that! so it needs to end in a way its not coming back.
there can be only one.
and its lois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

krypto 21
01-23-2009, 05:08 PM
I really really loved the kiss, it was so sweet and tender full of love. Looks like they are enjoing every moment, and the way they look at each other. I´m totally speechless.. no words can define what they transmit with the kiss.. Love clana!!!

Cogito17
01-23-2009, 05:16 PM
I'd like to ask you a question if I could...lets just say (and these are just assumptions) in the next few eps, we don't see a mutual parting of the ways but rather Lana being the one that makes the decision leaving behind a reluctant Clark, or there's a scenario that suggests that Clark and Lana can't be together due to circumstances outside of their control, even though they still wish they could. Would you still think this once more around was necessary, and a positive for the show, Clark's storyline, and any future relationship he has?

I think, perhaps, there are some people who still have faith that this will resolve itself in a manner that provides Clark with healthy closure, of which the parting is made of his own free will, and we can comfortably believe that he is ready to move on emotionally. And thats fine.

However, I think there are also some of us, like myself, who have completely no faith that this will happen, and in fact believe that what we saw in Bulletproof was exactly the path we most feared TPTB would take.

Now, of course, I could be wrong, to which I'll be more then happy to admit. :)

Its my belief that there were many ways to write an arc that wraps up Clark and Lana's relationship that respected them both, showed them both to be mature and strong, built a solid foundation for their future friendship, and didn't crap on any future relationships they have. IMO, what we are seeing? Is not one of those ways. YMMV

To answer your question, no, I don't think it would be good to leave things somewhat unresolved between Clark and Lana. If that does end up being the case, that they leave things between them vague and in some sort of grey area, then it is not a positive move, especially if they want to move forward with Lois.

But, they left things in somewhat of a grey area (IMO) at the end of season 7. So, I think its a good move to bring back Clana, to give the relationship the closure it needs if they want to move forward with Clois. I mean, I had seen in many different places around the forums talk about bringing closure to the relationship with Lana's re-appearance well before Lana arrived. But now Lana shows up, and they position themselves in a way that COULD bring that closure, and everyone is up in arms.

So, I suppose it could go either way. But I don't think the writers would bring back Lana, put her in a relationship with Clark, just so two episodes later they can put them right back into a grey area. I guess time will tell.

BadToad
01-23-2009, 05:20 PM
To answer your question, no, I don't think it would be good to leave things somewhat unresolved between Clark and Lana. If that does end up being the case, that they leave things between them vague and in some sort of grey area, then it is not a positive move, especially if they want to move forward with Lois.

OK, then all I ask is that you consider that some of us don't feel as sure and positive about this as yourself, which is why you are seeing people so disillusioned and negative.


But now Lana shows up, and they position themselves in a way that COULD bring that closure, and everyone is up in arms.

Because, IMO (and I'm guessing a few others as well), the move they made at the end of this episode is already indicative of a wrong direction.

llk6165
01-23-2009, 05:22 PM
The last 3 minutes just took and threw an entire 70 year old mythos down the tubes!!:mad:

don't despair. actually the comics went through therir own evolution too. Clark had other women in his life. The one thing is for sure - Lois is the only one he marries and the only ones who complete him.

It kiss looked like their noses were getting away. Definitely no passion

melissan02
01-23-2009, 05:24 PM
OK, then all I ask is that you consider that some of us don't feel as sure and positive about this as yourself, which is why you are seeing people so disillusioned and negative.



Because, IMO (and I'm guessing a few others as well), the move they made at the end of this episode is already indicative of a wrong direction.

Yes, it was the wrong direction...for the iconic love story of Lois & Clark, for the show, and most importantly, Clark!!

Cogito17
01-23-2009, 05:28 PM
OK, then all I ask is that you consider that some of us don't feel as sure and positive about this as yourself, which is why you are seeing people so disillusioned and negative.



Because, IMO (and I'm guessing a few others as well), the move they made at the end of this episode is already indicative of a wrong direction.

I understand that some people aren't so sure or positive, and I respect their opinion, mine is just different.

As for the move at the end of the episode... I think its hard to show them truly going apart, unless they are truly back together. It would be more difficult to portray a clean romantic break up without any romance shown between the two IMO.

BadToad
01-23-2009, 05:30 PM
It would be more difficult to portray a clean romantic break up without any romance shown between the two IMO.

And I believe a sign of healthy, emotional maturity (which is what I want from Clark) is being able to learn something and grow without sticking your hand into the flame. Again. Its just a different way of looking at it.

Scribe
01-23-2009, 05:38 PM
You know the last three minute did make me want to stick my hand into a fan - but in retrospect, I think it is the third act of a five act play and we should see where it goes from here. The manner in which Clark asks Chloe 'You can't stop loving someone right?' indicates to me that he is clinging to what was because it seems to be the right thing to do but there is enough doubt in his face when faced with Lois' feelings to indicate that he isn't sold on this yet. I honestly believe that the last three minutes is Clark's attempt to find out if he and Lana can reignite their relationship - that what he feels for isn't some residue from the past or really his true feelings about her now. I think it is important for Clark to attempt this relationship now that he's a bit clearer of what he wants - to find out once and for all if he and Lana can work or not. I think by the time Requiem arrives, I think he'll realise it can never work between them and close the door on the relationship without guilt that he made the wrong choice in the future.