Will Lois Be Clark's rebound?

[rebecavaldez]

Based on tonight's episode and that end scene I feel like Lois is just going to be his rebound girl. I really don't like that. I think I would have liked this season more if Lana would have never come back.

[melissan02]

Exactly why TPTB should do a complete re-write now! They've ruined the iconic love story of the whole mythos in one single shot!!
Lois will be like the rebound on SV, when in all other aspects of the mythos for 70 years, she's THE one! The soulmate! SO, now that they've ruined it, might as well pull out all stops and get KK signed on in ED's place and have Clark Kent end up with Lana Lang. Apparently that's how the story goes now!:rolleyes::mad:

[Niad]

i agree lana just sucks the fun out of smallville

[doodie8808]

im a cloiser and im happy because clark will get hurt again and i have a feeling about the next two episodes that will pause the clana train! i pray they write lois as her old self. i don't want her to be like she was in bride but her old self and have clark fall for her as she really falls for someone else and he gets hurt he needs to learn a lesson !

[rebecavaldez]

If ED leaves the show, I'm out. Clois is the reason I watch Smallville. You can't have Clois without Lois you would just have C

[Kryptonian4life]

If ED leaves the show, I'm out. Clois is the reason I watch Smallville. You can't have Clois without Lois you would just have C

why would she leave the show? ED is interested in doing more episodes and will sign for a season 9 if Tom does, but only!

[eas]

I hope not... but it does seem like they're setting it up so it'll be hard for Lois to top Lana ever.

[paolinki25]

Well, no, if they make Clark have a mind of his own around Lana and realizes that whatever was there is gone. Perhaps they will this everlasting relationship a proper closure, so Clark can heal, grow up and fall in love with the woman who's gonna be the constant in his life, and that's obviously Lois.

[kaam]

I don't like Clana but you guys are making this out to be like a high school crush! Clark will have to work to get Lois and she won't be a rebound! Why degrade Lois to "rebound"

[rebecavaldez]

why would she leave the show? ED is interested in doing more episodes and will sign for a season 9 if Tom does, but only!
Just saying if they decided to knock her out and put KK

[Alexander III]

Good question, I was thinking about that too during the kissing scene. Let's see how SV pull this off :lol:

[rebecavaldez]

I don't like Clana but you guys are making this out to be like a high school crush! Clark will have to work to get Lois and she won't be a rebound! Why degrade Lois to "rebound"
It's not the way I am putting it. It's the way Smallville is putting it

[Vergon6]

As Bizarro would say "Man, how can a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time?"

[Cage]

I think we are ALL going to be in for a surprise - I think that Clark will realize that he and Lana are over - It seems that Lana has been telling him that - but it's time to move on - from the other spoilers (Hex) he's in love with Lois - madly !!!

[VisionGirl]

Bite your tongue!!!

[Loisdragon]

she better not.

[rebecavaldez]

As Bizarro would say "Man, how can a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time?"
Hahaha, ahhh!! Clark is so blind!

[Niad]

they are doing season 9 they have everyone signed including tom there just waiting for the season to be over so they can see how the show is coming along

[rebecavaldez]

they are doing season 9 they have everyone signed including tom there just waiting for the season to be over so they can see how the show is coming along
Define "Everyone"

[WickedJenn]

they are doing season 9 they have everyone signed including tom there just waiting for the season to be over so they can see how the show is coming along

I've heard absolutely no definite confirmation of season 9 at all, and last I heard Tom was "close to a deal" with WB, not that he was definitely signed and they've mentioned nothing about anyone else yet.

Anyhow, I'd like to think Lois wasn't a rebound, but since this is SV, I'll have to see how they play it when she gets back.

[Alexander III]

they are doing season 9 they have everyone signed including tom there just waiting for the season to be over so they can see how the show is coming along

R u [MOD EDIT] serious? :eek:

[kimmiss]

Hahaha, ahhh!! Clark is so blind!


Clark's character is a typical 20 something year old guy ( Sorry 20 something year old guys on the boards) Can't see the Harley D for the " bike"....

[rebecavaldez]

I wish we could know already if they were. I would love to see Smallville do ten seasons...that would be AWESOME!

[Ace16]

As Bizarro would say "Man, how can a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time?"

I was always under the impression that because Bizzaro is the opposite of Clark,when Bizazaro said that to Lois Clark didn't like her-but when Bizzaro went after Lana, Clark's feelings for Lana have changed (not necessarily towards Lois but not like seasons 1-6)

But I was obviously wrong....

Apparently the Smallville version of Clark can't get past Lana and I'd rather Lois be with someone other then Clark if they were going to make her the second choice instead of what she really is-his soulmate.

[rebecavaldez]

Clark's character is a typical 20 something year old guy ( Sorry 20 something year old guys on the boards) Can't see the Harley D for the " bike"....
Well, it's a pretty good looking harley...he should be able to see it.

[Niad]

go to ign.com and they have a artice about it

[rebecavaldez]

Apparently the Smallville version of Clark can't get past Lana and I'd rather Lois be with someone other then Clark if they were going to make her the second choice instead of what she really is-his soulmate.
Exactly, I would like to see her with Grant(even though he is dead). He seemed to be the guy that hurt her the less.
A.C.-Left.
Oliver-Left.
Clark-Well, I have to say he's hurt her the most with his Clana drama.

[ginnyfan]

No frakking way. Lois will NOT be Clark Kent's rebound.

[BadToad]

Apparently the Smallville version of Clark can't get past Lana and I'd rather Lois be with someone other then Clark if they were going to make her the second choice instead of what she really is-his soulmate.

I actually agree with you, and I'm a Clark fan first. I'm usually the first person to say that a girl would be lucky to have Clark. But this episode has changed my mind (and made me painfully disgusted with my favorite character).

Clark needs to be alone for a really, really long time until he can emotionally grow up past the age of 14. He's not there yet.

And Lois, or any other woman, should never settle for being anyone's 2nd choice or rebound.

Clark can still be a great hero. But its obvious to me he is incapable of being a great love interest. IMO

[thehenry89]

Clark, no offense to anyone, is a complete and total idiot.

[yomama]

Clark needs to be alone for a really, really long time until he can emotionally grow up past the age of 14. He's not there yet.

And Lois, or any other woman, should never settle for being anyone's 2nd choice or rebound.

Clark can still be a great hero. But its obvious to me he is incapable of being a great love interest. IMO

Right on the money, Bad Toad! This Clark is not ready for Lois, and frankly, I'm not sure there's enough time in S8 to get him to that point (believably). But...we'll see what PS3 pulls out of their collective bag. :)

[rebecavaldez]

Clark, no offense to anyone, is a complete and total idiot.
I think every Clois fan feels like that. Well, at least I know I do.

[ginnyfan]

He's dopey when it comes to Lana. He just is. This is his first time considering that he doesn't have to choose between heroism and Lana. That was her big either or in her goodbye DVD. That was the big either or all his life! And Clark has always been nostalgic about Clana. Between the two of them Lana has always been the more realistic one concerning their relationship. The problem is, they didn't break up because of Clark being a hero. I can't wait to see what they discover in the next episode.

I hope they discover something. If not, I'll join you guys on the pessimist bench.

[rysamad]

I'm afraid so.
But it's okay.no offense to anyone.

[paolinki25]

Clark needs to be alone for a really, really long time until he can emotionally grow up past the age of 14. He's not there yet.

And Lois, or any other woman, should never settle for being anyone's 2nd choice or rebound.

Clark can still be a great hero. But its obvious to me he is incapable of being a great love interest. IMO

Couldn't have said it better. I also believe Clark needs to alone. IMO, he can be very emotionally immature.

[Ace16]

Exactly, I would like to see her with Grant(even though he is dead). He seemed to be the guy that hurt her the less.
A.C.-Left.
Oliver-Left.
Clark-Well, I have to say he's hurt her the most with his Clana drama.

I would actually like to see Lois with Bruce Wayne. I know Bruce can't be in Smallville but I remember watching the made for tv animated movie/ to be continued half an hour tv episodes that Lois and Bruce went on a few dates and she was even considering moving to Gothom-of course it made Clark jealous but I would love to see it on Smallville especially because of the way tonights episode went with Lana.

Heck, I'd rather see Clark with Lori if it gives him some progress.

[new_smallville_lover]

I don't think Lois would allow herself to be a rebound... Also in the dreaded kiss scene it seemed to me when Clark pulled away he was thinking it wasn't what he expected. Maybe it is just my wishful thinking but if the writers are smart they will make him walk away from Lana knowing it is over and there are not any feeling there anymore.

[petitemimi]

Let's not forget that writers want Clark that way and this is just pathetic.

[fan of the man]

guys calm down, quote "Lois is the future and Lana is the present", Clark can't drop his feelings for Lana all of sudden. Clark has been many good qualities and faithfulness and loyality are two of his better ones. The writer will end the Clana on Clark terms, it is the only way in which Clark can let go of the girl that has been his focus since they were five years old. They will script it so Clark can let go and move on with another love without quilt or reqret. So let it play out. Even though Lana knows that her and Clark have no future she is holding out for some hope, this was evident when she ask the young girl of the legion about her and Clark's future as a couple, so Lana hast to settle things as well. It will come to an end and in the end Clark and Lana will move on to others loves, but always remaining the best of friends.

[Kalista]

No.

[Dyanara]

That's why I said Lois is too good for Clark. She shouldnt be anyone's rebound let alone this whinny little brat of a man. She needs to go find her a real man who will love her and put her first intead of everyone and there darn mother.

[amberdawn]

I hope not... but it does seem like they're setting it up so it'll be hard for Lois to top Lana ever.

Yes, indeed. She won't be his first choice on SV. I've come to realize and accept that.

I no longer want Clois on this show. I want it to be left alone from now on. I hope if there's another season, they just don't go there.

[Kryptonian4life]

I think Clark is abit confused right now he's caught right in the middle between his old flame Lana and his sudden love for Lois, he's going through alot right now he needs time to adjust himself, soon he'll realize Lois is the one for him.

[susangail]

Lois knows now that Clark's feelings for Lana linger, and she's voted with her feet. Lois will not be anyone's rebound, even as she has feelings for him. I can hardly wait to see how they reconnect...with Chloe behind the eyeballs.

[amberdawn]

I think Clark is abit confused right now he's caught right in the middle between his old flame Lana and his sudden love for Lois, he's going through alot right now he needs time to adjust himself, soon he'll realize Lois is the one for him.

He's not gonna be the one to end the relationship with Lana I'm sure, so it's hard for me to view it like that.

[LovelyLoisLane]

LOL, God! So much gloom and Doom in here. Get it? Doom? Ah, tough crowd.

But seriously, you guys are all down in the doldrums and then once Lois is back you're going be going 'yay' again.

And I don't think Clark was that horrible, I think he is just confused and dealing with a Lana that is in the here and now. I think it is easier to try and fall into a comfort zone with Lana than to try and confront what he feels about Lois which is supremely complicated.

He had a look on his face at the end of the Clana kiss that makes me think he might realize what he needs and doesn't need before Lois gets back. As to what or who that is, I'll leave that up to you shippers.

I also know that Lois would never let herself be a rebound girl and have a very good feeling in my gut, Lois fan that I am, that Clark is going to have to WORK to get her interested again.

Remember the look on Clark's face after he kissed Lois for the first time in 'Hydro' how elated he seemed? I mean he wasn't in love with her, but it was obvious that was some kiss. That was the kind of kiss that he hadn't had before, I think because Lois was in love or thought herself to be in love with Oliver then and she was putting all her love and acceptance into that kiss thinking that Oliver was the one in the green arrow suit. I think that Clark felt all that love from her in that case and that is what made it so wow. Had they locked lips in 'Bride' who knows, I'm sure she would've wowed him yet again.


In retrospect, a lot of his kisses with Lana were saccharine sweet, and there was feeling in them of that there is no doubt. But I saw the expression he had tonight after kissing Lana. He went into it full throttle and seemed fine to do so but afterward it was as if when he kissed her he felt in that kiss that something was not as it used to be. As if something was askew after that kiss, something wasn't quite right. I'm not going to read too much into it, but at the very least I saw confusion very plainly on his face and I'll see what comes of it in next week's episode.

[amberdawn]

I'm not mad at Clark at all, actually. I'm sure he is confused, and has to work through that.

But as far as Clois goes, I'm done on this show. I know Lois won't let herself be Clark's rebound, but as far as his feelings for her go, I'm probably never going to be convinced if they decide to go there.

[eas]

I'm not mad at Clark at all, actually. I'm sure he is confused, and has to work through that.

But as far as Clois goes, I'm done on this show. I know Lois won't let herself be Clark's rebound, but as far as his feelings for her go, I'm probably never going to be convinced if they decide to go there.

Yeah, that's how I feel, too.

I understand why Clark did what he did... but, I guess, for me, this was the moment where I realized that SVClark really may not ever get over SVLana. And even if he does... if he jumps straight to loving Lois right after (or admitting it) then I won't believe it's the real deal. :(

[susangail]

He had a look on his face at the end of the Clana kiss that makes me think he might realise what he needs and doesn't need before Lois gets back. As to what or who that is, I'll leave that up to you shippers.

I also know that Lois would never let herself be a rebound girl and have a very good feeling in my gut, Lois fan that I am, that Clark is going to have to WORK to get her interested again.

No doldrums for me: action, creep factor, and romance. I enjoyed every minute of it!

[Iluvgreen]

She won't be his rebound. We need to repect the fact that Clark has "loved" (can we call it that?) Lana for so long. Lana left Clark when he still had feelings for her, thus he's not over her yet... key word YET. He will be over Lana by the time she leaves in two weeks. I think that next week he will face it that he has feelings for Lois. And he will tell Lana that. They will have their closure.... and we can have our Clois.

[Dyanara]

My thing is, imo he will never be over Lana and no matter what Lois will be second to him. If he keeps doing that, lets say 10yrs in the future if Lois and Clark are married and Lana comes by for a visit whats going to happen? I dont think Smallville Clark should ever have Lois.

[amberdawn]

Yeah, that's how I feel, too.

I understand why Clark did what he did... but, I guess, for me, this was the moment where I realized that SVClark really may not ever get over SVLana. And even if he does... if he jumps straight to loving Lois right after (or admitting it) then I won't believe it's the real deal. :(

Yep, we're on the same page.

I'm just done shipping Clois on the show, I guess.

[Iluvgreen]

Yep, we're on the same page.

I'm just done shipping Clois on the show, I guess.


Please don't give up on them just yet! They really need support!

[rebecavaldez]

Please don't give up on them just yet! They really need support!
Yeah, I agree. The most Clois fans the better. Let's just hope Clana is over (for reals) soon.

[superspider02]

yea we just have to wait and see how things fall out with lana and clark in the next two episodes and then what goes down once lois is back in the scene.

[Clana4Life]

I like Clois fine enough. If I can't have Clana, then I'll take Clois. I'll enjoy them, but I will pretty much always think Clark's first choice was Lana. Given the choice, that's who he would choose. But Lois is a nice girl too, so if you can't have the one you love, then love the one you're with.

[amberdawn]

I'll enjoy them, but I will pretty much always think Clark's first choice was Lana. Given the choice, that's who he would choose.

I actually will agree with you here. That's how it is on SV anyway.

[SnowBird]

I get a little tired of the negetive attitude against Clark. Lana was his first love. Clark and Lois has never been a couple so he isn't cheating on her. Lana will forever be the first. She has been gone for 7 months by Lana's words. Would Lois be a rebound girl after 7 months since he almost kissed Lois? How long do you have to be single before the next love is a rebound? I would really like to know. I don't think Lois and Clark is going to be a couple this season so I don't see Lois as a rebound.

[zHeN_zHeN]

I don't know. I just don't see how it's going to work for Clois now.


if you can't have the one you love, then love the one you're with.
Nope. That's not good enough. Lois deserves better than that.

[bychance]

I think its just Clark/Lana need closure so Clark can be with Lois later on.

[amberdawn]

Nope. That's not good enough. Lois deserves better than that.

She does. That's why I don't want them exploring Clois anymore.

[Clana4Life]

I don't know. I just don't see how it's going to work for Clois now.


Nope. That's not good enough. Lois deserves better than that.

Why is it so bad? He'll love her.

[amberdawn]

I don't think Lois and Clark is going to be a couple this season so I don't see Lois as a rebound.

I see it more like, it would hard not view Lois as his second choice, even if they're not dating, since he won't be able to have Lana.

If Lana was around when Lois is, I doubt he'd even be interested in Lois, on SV.

[MrZeppo]

Whoa whoa whoa people, calm down... Don't give up yet! Jeez KK is only in 2 more episodes and that's it. It's not like Clark and Lana are going on beyond that and Lois is coming back.

I think it's kind of unfair to get mad at Clark and get down on him just because he isn't running to Lois right now. We're all looking at this from our P.O.V as the viewer and not recognizing what Clark is going through right now.

Clark has had his first love come back into his life. That's not something to ignore or dismiss. KK wouldn't come back for a bad storyline, so there has to be some sort of resolution to the Clark-Lana relationship. Not only for the fans, but the storyline itself. Because if they didn't realistically show this closure, and when Clark does finally move on, people will always feel he will never be over Lana.

Clark himself admitted to Chloe that he is aware of how Lois feels and he is confused about how he feels because for all these years she's always been just "Lois". And really for the past two seasons we've seen more growth on Lois' side in regards to her emerging feelings for Clark, more than we have seen from Clark because he's still struggling to understand how he feels for her.

Because KK is leaving and not planning any immediate return you have to realize that they need to setup some closure for Clana and the fans. Where Lana and Clark can both let go and move on. If Clois is to happen, you guys need Clana now to bring that closure. You know it's coming, Lana is leaving by "Requiem" and Lois is back in "Infamous". Let them do that, I know it doesn't make Clois fans happy, but it's the right thing to do for the story and the fandom.

Just an honest opinion from an Anti-Shipper.

[Kevin24]

I just hope when it ends it's Clark's choice and not Lana's. From the previews it has seem like Lana is the one who pushes Clark away and he is still chasing after her. I really hope the previews aren't how it will really play out.

I just want Clark to realize it's over and he doesn't feel the same way about her anymore and that's how it ends. I just don't want it to be Lana who has the final say because then Lois will always be second best if it goes that way.

[borednow]

I'm just hoping that weird look at the end and the quick cut off meant something...

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

I'm just hoping that weird look at the end and the quick cut off meant something...

You know I did not see what people were talking about, but, then i finally saw it in high-def and it was pretty evident...I just don't exactly know what it means :confused:.

[Fish1941]

Lana will appear on the show for two more episodes before she's gone. After that, Clark will have to work at gaining Lois' affections. If that is the case - and I suspect that it is - I can only hope that Lois will make Clark move heaven and earth in trying to regain her affections. If this happens, I will enjoy it.

[MrZeppo]

I'm just hoping that weird look at the end and the quick cut off meant something...

Huh! I thought that was just me. I noticed that too. It made the kiss look bittersweet rather than romantic, like they were both looking at each other while thinking, "Uhhhh, that wasn't as good as I remember..."

LOL!

[BadToad]

Whoa whoa whoa people, calm down... Don't give up yet! Jeez KK is only in 2 more episodes and that's it. It's not like Clark and Lana are going on beyond that and Lois is coming back.

I have to admit, I just don't get this POV at all. So, because KK leaves in 2 episodes, that doesn't mean that serious, unchangable damage can't be done in her wake. Its Presto!, she's gone, so how Clark acted when she was here shouldn't matter or count?

I'm sorry, I can't work that way.


I think it's kind of unfair to get mad at Clark and get down on him just because he isn't running to Lois right now.

Oh, believe me, I'm not. Him running to Lois isn't even in the equation.

Its purely Clark's reactions to Lana, and how emotionally stunted he appears that has me down on MY favorite character. The fact that he's so callous about Lois is just an added unfortunate reflection on him. It actually doesn't reflect on Lois herself.


Clark has had his first love come back into his life. That's not something to ignore or dismiss.

You mean the same first love that he's been up and down and up and down and up and down with for years? The same first love that he lived with all last year, and both of them seemed distant and fairly uncomfortable. The same first love that thought Bizarro was way better then Clark? The same first love that, to the best of Clark's knowledge, dumped him by video tape 7 months ago, and didn't come back for him, and still hasn't explained to him why she did it?


KK wouldn't come back for a bad storyline, so there has to be some sort of resolution to the Clark-Lana relationship.

KK was contracted to come back. She had episodes to make up for from last season.


Because if they didn't realistically show this closure, and when Clark does finally move on, people will always feel he will never be over Lana.

And there are many, many ways for them to have done this that allowed Clark to maintain some self-respect, and to show maturity, and allowed both him and Lana to become friends. Its clear to me that isn't happening. At least on the Clark side. I fully expect Lana to leave as the sainted martyr heroine.


Where Lana and Clark can both let go and move on.

So, honest question, if its not mutual, but one-sided, will you still feel as though it was the right thing to do, and a good storyline?


You know it's coming, Lana is leaving by "Requiem" and Lois is back in "Infamous". Let them do that, I know it doesn't make Clois fans happy, but it's the right thing to do for the story and the fandom.

What fandom? Speaking as a charter member of the Clark fandom, it sure doesn't seem like the right thing to do for me. YMMV. And again, I don't understand how Lana's exit means that what happens during her arc can't have long running consequences for Clark, his storyline, or any future relationship he has. The damage done is the damage done. It doesn't get erased because KK leaves again. IMO


Just an honest opinion from an Anti-Shipper.

And mine is just from a Clark's fan POV, who really think Clark needs to remain single for a really long time. Its just better for him, IMO. He's really emotionally stunted when it comes to romantic relationships, and he should just concentrate on the heroic stuff. IMO

[amberdawn]

And mine is just from a Clark's fan POV, who really think Clark needs to remain single for a really long time. Its just better for him, IMO. He's really emotionally stunted when it comes to romantic relationships, and he should just concentrate on the heroic stuff. IMO

Agreed. He still needs to grow into who he's meant to be before he can think about being in a real adult relationship. But this is SV so you know he'll always have a love interest. :rolleyes:

[Clana4Life]

I have to admit, I just don't get this POV at all. So, because KK leaves in 2 episodes, that doesn't mean that serious, unchangable damage can't be done in her wake. Its Presto!, she's gone, so how Clark acted when she was here shouldn't matter or count?

I'm sorry, I can't work that way.



Oh, believe me, I'm not. Him running to Lois isn't even in the equation.

Its purely Clark's reactions to Lana, and how emotionally stunted he appears that has me down on MY favorite character. The fact that he's so callous about Lois is just an added unfortunate reflection on him. It actually doesn't reflect on Lois herself.



You mean the same first love that he's been up and down and up and down and up and down with for years? The same first love that he lived with all last year, and both of them seemed distant and fairly uncomfortable. The same first love that thought Bizarro was way better then Clark? The same first love that, to the best of Clark's knowledge, dumped him by video tape 7 months ago, and didn't come back for him, and still hasn't explained to him why she did it?



KK was contracted to come back. She had episodes to make up for from last season.



And there are many, many ways for them to have done this that allowed Clark to maintain some self-respect, and to show maturity, and allowed both him and Lana to become friends. Its clear to me that isn't happening. At least on the Clark side. I fully expect Lana to leave as the sainted martyr heroine.



So, honest question, if its not mutual, but one-sided, will you still feel as though it was the right thing to do, and a good storyline?



What fandom? Speaking as a charter member of the Clark fandom, it sure doesn't seem like the right thing to do for me. YMMV. And again, I don't understand how Lana's exit means that what happens during her arc can't have long running consequences for Clark, his storyline, or any future relationship he has. The damage done is the damage done. It doesn't get erased because KK leaves again. IMO



And mine is just from a Clark's fan POV, who really think Clark needs to remain single for a really long time. Its just better for him, IMO. He's really emotionally stunted when it comes to romantic relationships, and he should just concentrate on the heroic stuff. IMO

Why does still being in love with Lana equal Clark being stunted. He himself said you can't just fall out of love with someone. I don't know why the fact that he still loves Lana means that he's somehow regressed. He's still doing everything exactly the way he was doing it before. He's still saving people's lives. HE's still fighting crime. He's still investigating and working at the DP. Nothing has changed except that Lana is back and he wants her in his life, too. But being in love with her and wanting her back hasn't made him any less capable of doing what he was doing prior to her arrival.

[borednow]

Huh! I thought that was just me. I noticed that too. It made the kiss look bittersweet rather than romantic, like they were both looking at each other while thinking, "Uhhhh, that wasn't as good as I remember..."

LOL!

Yeah there was no smile or second kiss... it was kinda flat...

[Kreukie]

why does still being in love with lana equal clark being stunted. He himself said you can't just fall out of love with someone. I don't know why the fact that he still loves lana means that he's somehow regressed. He's still doing everything exactly the way he was doing it before. He's still saving people's lives. He's still fighting crime. He's still investigating and working at the dp. Nothing has changed except that lana is back and he wants her in his life, too. But being in love with her and wanting her back hasn't made him any less capable of doing what he was doing prior to her arrival.

bingo!

[SnowBird]

I see it more like, it would hard not view Lois as his second choice, even if they're not dating, since he won't be able to have Lana.

If Lana was around when Lois is, I doubt he'd even be interested in Lois, on SV.

Lana and Clark have been on again, off again and usually those type of relationships don't make it. I think that Clark would realize this on his own and maybe he will since we don't know what is going to happen with the last episode Lana is in. One thing for sure is that we know what the ending is and Clark does realize that Lois is his true love, so no worries...Remember that Clark is not Lois' first choice either since she dated other men in Smallville.

[Mythosgirl]

I just hope when it ends it's Clark's choice and not Lana's. From the previews it has seem like Lana is the one who pushes Clark away and he is still chasing after her. I really hope the previews aren't how it will really play out.

I just want Clark to realize it's over and he doesn't feel the same way about her anymore and that's how it ends. I just don't want it to be Lana who has the final say because then Lois will always be second best if it goes that way.

Agreed. It will absolutely weeken his character if it is not his decision. I know there is alot of talk of only 2 episodes and needing a wrap up, but really if you saw one of your friends pining this long and not moving on already, what would you say?

[SnowBird]

Why does still being in love with Lana equal Clark being stunted. He himself said you can't just fall out of love with someone. I don't know why the fact that he still loves Lana means that he's somehow regressed. He's still doing everything exactly the way he was doing it before. He's still saving people's lives. HE's still fighting crime. He's still investigating and working at the DP. Nothing has changed except that Lana is back and he wants her in his life, too. But being in love with her and wanting her back hasn't made him any less capable of doing what he was doing prior to her arrival.

Well said:)

[BadToad]

Why does still being in love with Lana equal Clark being stunted. He himself said you can't just fall out of love with someone.

Because I think he should've gotten to that point by now. I think enough has happened. I get that you think that Lana is perfect and wonderful and the end-all-be-all, but I do not. I think it should've been done when she jumped in bed with Lex Luthor. I thought it should've been done when she thought Bizarro was awesome and so much better then Clark. And I have never seen Clark and Lana have anything that remotely looks like a healthy, nurturing, functional relationship. And after 7 years of dysfunction, pain and angst, I'm over it, and I think there's been enough on the show for Clark to be past it. It doesn't mean he has to not "love" Lana. Or want the best for her. Or want to be friends with her. But I think, by now, he should grow up. Before he's crawling up her behind again, could we at least allow him the dignity to actually confront her over why she dumped him via videotape? No, apparently he's not even allowed that small dignity when it comes to Lana.

And thats why I think he's being shown as emotionally stunted.


I don't know why the fact that he still loves Lana means that he's somehow regressed.

I think I made the distinction between Clark's heroics, and the emotional side of things.

[Mythosgirl]

wow BadToad...I am speechless..I wanted to respond but you kind of said it all

[Kevin24]

Agreed. It will absolutely weeken his character if it is not his decision. I know there is alot of talk of only 2 episodes and needing a wrap up, but really if you saw one of your friends pining this long and not moving on already, what would you say?

LOL, I would actually tell him to move on already. I still think after they kissed it didn't look all fine and dandy. It looked like it wasn't the same anymore. I just hope that Clark ends it and realizes his feelings for her have changed.

[trojan20]

I love this thread:D and i really like that word"REBOUND";)

[zHeN_zHeN]

I love this thread:D and i really like that word"REBOUND!";)
Yup, me too. I can't wait until Clark REBOUNDS from Lana to be with Lois! ;) :D

[celita]

God lord and I though nothing couldn't get more anooying than big caps.

Wlel let them be happy they ahve two episodes left :p

[Clana4Life]

Because I think he should've gotten to that point by now. I think enough has happened. I get that you think that Lana is perfect and wonderful and the end-all-be-all, but I do not. I think it should've been done when she jumped in bed with Lex Luthor. I thought it should've been done when she thought Bizarro was awesome and so much better then Clark. And I have never seen Clark and Lana have anything that remotely looks like a healthy, nurturing, functional relationship. And after 7 years of dysfunction, pain and angst, I'm over it, and I think there's been enough on the show for Clark to be past it. It doesn't mean he has to not "love" Lana. Or want the best for her. Or want to be friends with her. But I think, by now, he should grow up. Before he's crawling up her behind again, could we at least allow him the dignity to actually confront her over why she dumped him via videotape? No, apparently he's not even allowed that small dignity when it comes to Lana.

And thats why I think he's being shown as emotionally stunted.



I think I made the distinction between Clark's heroics, and the emotional side of things.

Well, no need to think or project for me. I assure you, I'm perfectly capable of telling you what I think. I've never said that I think Lana is "perfect and wonderful and the end-all-be-all". And really, I don't even have to think that about her to be able to defend Clark's emotional health. I'm gathering from what you said that there is a set time (or even ball park time) that you think Clark should be over Lana? People vary in their ability to move on from people and let relationships go. The fact that she's always in his "orbit" probably doesn't aid him in this. He did question her when she first came back and he let it go after that. We obviously see this differently, but Season 8-Clark strikes me as someone who doesn't give up on people or relationships without a fight. In season's past, we have seen Clark just cave and give in to other people's wishes, but this time he's stepping up for what he wants. He's fighting. Whether one thinks Lana is the right choice for him or not, this at least shows that Clark is being proactive about what he wants.

[MrZeppo]

I have to admit, I just don't get this POV at all. So, because KK leaves in 2 episodes, that doesn't mean that serious, unchangable damage can't be done in her wake. Its Presto!, she's gone, so how Clark acted when she was here shouldn't matter or count?

I'm sorry, I can't work that way.


That's cool, that's your perogative. But you're automatically assuming everything is going to go pear shaped. You don't know, just like I don't know. For all we know, Clark and Lana could decide that they no longer fit together and both move on amicabley like adults. The descriptions for "Infamous" don't sound like Clark is in mourning or anthing crazy, which is something I imagine would be happening if everything did go pear shaped with Lana.

Me, personally? I'm taking a wait and see stance on things. So far Lana hasn't been actively trying to get back together with Clark. It actually seems like she's been active on trying to keep their relationship friends only.



Oh, believe me, I'm not. Him running to Lois isn't even in the equation.

Its purely Clark's reactions to Lana, and how emotionally stunted he appears that has me down on MY favorite character. The fact that he's so callous about Lois is just an added unfortunate reflection on him. It actually doesn't reflect on Lois herself.


Okay I can agree with your POV. I wish he had followed up with Lois after the near kiss in "Bride". But then again, Chloe had been kidnapped and discussing a kiss would have been out of left field and callous. And since she hasn't really been around because she's been with Jimmy there hasn't really been any oppurtunity for him to talk or even snub Lois since then. Hopefully now that all the chaos has settled, when she comes back in "Infamous" maybe they can at least try and discuss it.



You mean the same first love that he's been up and down and up and down and up and down with for years? The same first love that he lived with all last year, and both of them seemed distant and fairly uncomfortable. The same first love that thought Bizarro was way better then Clark? The same first love that, to the best of Clark's knowledge, dumped him by video tape 7 months ago, and didn't come back for him, and still hasn't explained to him why she did it?


Look, I hope you're not getting angry at me. I'm just expressing my opinion. I'm not really big on shipping. In a thread that basically dissolved into a bash-Lois thread for "Bride" here on K-site, I jumped to Lois' defense. I see her gruff exterior as a disguise she uses to hide the real her. The vulnerable Lois we've seen rare instances where she lets her guard down. But to be fair, I will admit I am coming to Lana's defense now. And trust me, I haven't been the biggest Lana fan. But since she's been back I've found her really compelling because she's grown as a character. She wasn't rushing to get back together with Clark. All the sneaky business she's been upto seems to involve gathering intel on Lex. So I don't really see her doing anything wrong right now. The past is the past. Clark hasn't been perfect either. But all I can do is look at the show right here and right now and look at the intentions of their actions on screen now.

Clark loves Lana. It's kind of expected he needs to see if they can still fit. Like you said, she just upped and left 7 months ago and he never got any closure. And he obviously still feels she's worth trying for, so I will allow him his desire for a happy ending. To be a hero and have love. But just because he is hoping for that doesn't mean it will happen. At least not the way he's expecting.



KK was contracted to come back. She had episodes to make up for from last season.


Yeah, but the noticabley better writing this season has really made her more grown up. And based on interviewed with Erica, she's had a lot of imput on her character and her relationship with Clark. I would surmise that KK had the same right. She probably had some imput to offer the writers in terms of where Lana should go. Not a lot, but some. Just like how TW has had with Clark.



And there are many, many ways for them to have done this that allowed Clark to maintain some self-respect, and to show maturity, and allowed both him and Lana to become friends. Its clear to me that isn't happening. At least on the Clark side. I fully expect Lana to leave as the sainted martyr heroine.

So, honest question, if its not mutual, but one-sided, will you still feel as though it was the right thing to do, and a good storyline?


Yeah, I can understand why you feel like that. I guess I'm more hopeful that both of them decide to end things amicabley and they can be friends. Lana will continue onto her journey and Clark onto his. If it were one-sided then yes, I would be upset too. But like I said before, neither of us knows what will happen. And this season has been so much better so I'm still going to adopt my "wait and see" attitutde rather than getting upset over something that I don't know will happen.




What fandom? Speaking as a charter member of the Clark fandom, it sure doesn't seem like the right thing to do for me. YMMV. And again, I don't understand how Lana's exit means that what happens during her arc can't have long running consequences for Clark, his storyline, or any future relationship he has. The damage done is the damage done. It doesn't get erased because KK leaves again. IMO

And mine is just from a Clark's fan POV, who really think Clark needs to remain single for a really long time. Its just better for him, IMO. He's really emotionally stunted when it comes to romantic relationships, and he should just concentrate on the heroic stuff. IMO

The fandom like the Clana fans. Like me. I'm not even a Clana fan or a huge Lana fan. I am actually mainly a Clark fan. But SV's success isn't due to any one fandom. Clark fans, Lana fans, Chloe fans, Lois fans, etc... Clana, Clois, Chlark, Clex, Chimmy, etc... All of these fandoms have attributed to Smallville's success. And I'll be honest, I really didn't like Clana in Seasons 2-6. Even Season 7 was iffy to me. This season I really find her interesting and I am curious where it's going. Especially because I've watched the dance between Clark and Lana for years now, and it has been so painful sometimes, and I want to see how it ends. I want this closure so Clark can be the hero. So Clark can move on. So Clark and Lois can maybe start their dance. I can understand if you don't like this or like what you're seeing. But your fandom isn't the only fandom, and I think the writers are trying to respect all the fandoms that have attributed to what has made Smallville a show we all watch to this day.

[SmallvilleMan]

. I've never said that I think Lana is "perfect and wonderful and the end-all-be-all"

That's the problem with Anti-Lana or people who have a bad view of Lana, they think lana fans think she's the greatest ever and don't understand her faults. Which is not true at all......


And after 7 years of dysfunction, pain and angst, I'm over it, and I think there's been enough on the show for Clark to be past it

Wow, the way you describe it, it's like their relationship never had one happy moment in it......The fact of the matter is, when things have been right between them, is when Clark has been his happiest. And if you're a fan of Clark you should be all for his happiness as a character. Of course they've had their rough times and let me make this clear, BOTH OF THEM are responsible for pain and angst. It isn't Lana did this and Lana did that.....Clark made a lot of mistakes on his own, especially when it comes to his secret and Lana made her own with Lex as well as bizarro.

[Clana4Life]

That's the problem with Anti-Lana or people who have a bad view of Lana, they think lana fans think she's the greatest ever and don't understand her faults. Which is not true at all......



Wow, the way you describe it, it's like their relationship never had one happy moment in it......The fact of the matter is, when things have been right between them, is when Clark has been his happiest. And if you're a fan of Clark you should be all for his happiness as a character. Of course they've had their rough times and let me make this clear, BOTH OF THEM are responsible for pain and angst. It isn't Lana did this and Lana did that.....Clark made a lot of mistakes on his own, especially when it comes to his secret and Lana made her own with Lex as well as bizarro.

Yeah, I don't even have to think Lana is perfect to make a defense for Clark. And it's never fun to have anyone projecting for you.

[BadToad]

Look, I hope you're not getting angry at me. I'm just expressing my opinion.

Not angry at all. This was just a very disappointing episode for me. As a Clark fan, thats why I watch. For him. And there was so much potential for this to be a great episode for him, and there were many positive things here. But the ending...

If it ends up that they allow Clark a mutual say in the end of Clana, and allow him to keep his dignity in the end, I promise I will post that I was wrong.


But your fandom isn't the only fandom, and I think the writers are trying to respect all the fandoms that have attributed to what has made Smallville a show we all watch to this day.

If they are trying to respect all fandoms, I think they are doing a piss poor job of it. They seem to do a lot of crapping on one fandom to appease another, and very often, Clark as a character is the one that gets left out in the cold, IMO.

I understand that you can't write a show to please everyone. And apparently, I'm one of the unlucky ones. :\


And if you're a fan of Clark you should be all for his happiness as a character.

I am. And IMO, after watching the show this long, I am 100% convinced that this is not even remotely possible for him in a romantic relationship with Lana. Or vice versa. Why am I convinced? I've watched the show. Let me give you an example....is Lana being honest with Clark at the moment, or do we have more "secrets and lies"? Ah, sweet, beautiful love :rolleyes:

[SmallvilleMan]

If they are trying to respect all fandoms, I think they are doing a piss poor job of it. They seem to do a lot of crapping on one fandom to appease another, and very often, Clark as a character is often the one that gets left out in the cold, IMO.

As a Clana fan I don't see them appeasing mine at all.......I feel it's stupid to keep going back and forth like this.......Now in two episodes we're going to find out they aren't meant to be with each other or now they want to be friends or whatever.

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I am. And IMO, after watching the show this long, I am 100% convinced that this is not even remotely possible in a romantic relationship with Lana. Why am I convinced? I've watched the show

Well, I've seen Clark the happiest for the first three episodes and the first half of episode 12 and episode 9 of Season 5(with Lana) and episodes 3-7 with Lana........Those have been those happiest moments IMO that didn't involve a special occassion.

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Let me give you an example....is Lana being honest with Clark at the moment, or do we have more "secrets and lies"? Ah, sweet, beautiful love


I don't remember anyone saying love had to include honesty.......Although it should. Sometimes when someone sets the standard of honesty in a relationship, such as Clark did, it's hard to break.

By the way, it's also deserves to be mentioned that the secret is unknown. So it might have to be kept and who says it has anything to do with Clark?

[BadToad]

Well, I've seen Clark the happiest for the first three episodes and the first half of episode 12 and episode 9 of Season 5(with Lana) and episodes 3-7 with Lana........Those have been those happiest moments IMO that didn't involve a special occassion.

And comparitively speaking, how often have they been miserable? I'm not sure what episodes 3-7 you are talking about exactly, but are you talking about the ones in S7? When Lana was lying to Clark constantly, and doing things behind his back? Because something like that sort of negates any happiness we'd see from Clark because its based on a false pretense.

Honestly SmallvilleMan, I do respect your opinion. To me, I've always found that you at least show some consideration for Clark, aside and apart from Lana, and I've always appreciated that. So, I don't want to argue with you. I'll agree to disagree :)

[Hmm]

I am. And IMO, after watching the show this long, I am 100% convinced that this is not even remotely possible for him in a romantic relationship with Lana. Or vice versa.

do you really think it would be different if it was not lana and somebody else, lois or chloe? the only reason why lana and clark could not get a healty reletionship and happy ending is because the writers don't know how to write that and make the show continue ..

[BadToad]

do you really think it would be different if it was not lana and somebody else, lois or chloe? the only reason why lana and clark could not get a healty reletionship and happy ending is because the writers don't know how to write that and make the show continue ..

You could very well be right. But that doesn't change what was. It was Lana, and thats what we saw on screen. But believe me, I very rarely sing the praises of SV writers.

[MrZeppo]

Not angry at all. This was just a very disappointing episode for me. As a Clark fan, thats why I watch. For him. And there was so much potential for this to be a great episode for him, and there were many positive things here. But the ending...


I'll admit, I loved the episode. Not for the ending. To be honest, I groaned painfully when I saw them kiss.

But the Dan Turpin storyline was oh so good. And seeing Clark interact with cops and really see not just the black and white of a situation was like the most delicious payoff ever. I loved that he got to lecture Ollie. About the grey area no less, that was awesome!

I used to be annoyed that Smallville never dealt with some of the really dark issues with humanity. FotW storylines were painful. And this was a story that finally satisfied that desire I've had for so long. Seeing Clark helping to stop a cop from crossing a line is a very mature issue.

I loved how pro-active he's been. And seeing him admit in the end with John and Ollie that sometimes you need people watching your back is such a far cry from his solo attitude in "Justice" that pissed me off.



If it ends up that they allow Clark a mutual say in the end of Clana, and allow him to keep his dignity in the end, I promise I will post that I was wrong.


I hope for the same thing my friend, trust me. If he doesn't have some say I can't possibley imagine the character ever being able to really move on. Here's hoping!



If they are trying to respect all fandoms, I think they are doing a piss poor job of it. They seem to do a lot of crapping on one fandom to appease another, and very often, Clark as a character is the one that gets left out in the cold, IMO.


Actually Clark has had so much growth this season I have to disagree with that. He's really becoming a hero and funny enough, sometimes he reminds me of Jonathan Kent with how adult he seems now. He's not fully there yet, but I think he will get there.

Personally, I think what they are doing now is wrapping up some storylines. We don't know if KK will ever come back so I imagine the Clana storyline has to get resolved. I do hope and believe MR will come back as Lex for 1 or 2 episodes. But that's just faith really. Chloe has had a really good storyline this season being in the center of Davis and Clark. But also Brainiac and getting married. I think the Clois storyline will be the new "it" ship they'll be pushing. Kind of the whole "will they or won't they" bit. It reminds me of how LnC was but I have to admit I connect to Erica's version of Lois a lot more than Teri Hatcher's.



I understand that you can't write a show to please everyone. And apparently, I'm one of the unlucky ones. :\


Well I guess the thing is you can't please everyone all the time. We all take turns. :)



I am. And IMO, after watching the show this long, I am 100% convinced that this is not even remotely possible for him in a romantic relationship with Lana. Or vice versa. Why am I convinced? I've watched the show. Let me give you an example....if Lana being honest with Clark at the moment? Of course not! Ah, sweet, beautiful love :rolleyes:

I will agree just because I think they've outgrown each other (and also because KK isn't signed to come back). They need to move on.

[SmallvilleMan]

Honestly SmallvilleMan, I do respect your opinion. To me, I've always found that you at least show some consideration for Clark, aside and apart from Lana, and I've always appreciated that. So, I don't want to argue with you. I'll agree to disagree

I do consider Clark, he's trying to find happiness. That's what I find so interesting about him and obviously the Clana relationship. It's something I think we all face, how to balence what we need to do and at the same time find that happiness. While at the time realizing that nothing means anything without happiness.

Not to add on or start something else, but rather a little rant on my part. I wish the previous writers as well as these ones would just allow Clark to be happy with her, just so he can feel that. They have him seemingly afraid to say, "Hey, i want to be happy".......It's like they have him believing it's wrong to want happiness and it's good to see him step up to the plate tonight for HIMSELF.

[Clana4Life]

Actually KK has said she will consider coming back for the series finale and a few more eps if it's good material.
Whether one thinks Clark is emotionally stunted or not, he is still saving lives, rescuing people, fighting the good fight and those are all of the things Superman does. His personal life has not yet negatively affected his heroic pursuits. And really the show is about his journey toward becoming Superman and not so much about his journey toward becoming a great half-of-a-relationship/boyfriend/husband, etc.

[Sunny8]

Based on tonight's episode and that end scene I feel like Lois is just going to be his rebound girl. I really don't like that. I think I would have liked this season more if Lana would have never come back.

No, unless the writers make Lois out to be as stupid as they are making Clark.

[WickedJenn]

Actually KK has said she will consider coming back for the series finale and a few more eps if it's good material.
Whether one thinks Clark is emotionally stunted or not, he is still saving lives, rescuing people, fighting the good fight and those are all of the things Superman does. His personal life has not yet negatively affected his heroic pursuits. And really the show is about his journey toward becoming Superman and not so much about his journey toward becoming a great half-of-a-relationship/boyfriend/husband, etc.

Had to quote and bold that part right there.

[Sunny8]

Actually KK has said she will consider coming back for the series finale and a few more eps if it's good material.
Whether one thinks Clark is emotionally stunted or not, he is still saving lives, rescuing people, fighting the good fight and those are all of the things Superman does. His personal life has not yet negatively affected his heroic pursuits. And really the show is about his journey toward becoming Superman and not so much about his journey toward becoming a great half-of-a-relationship/boyfriend/husband, etc.

Then why the heck are they spending so much time on his personal relationship with Lana?

[Clana4Life]

Then why the heck are they spending so much time on his personal relationship with Lana?

Well, they only had two scenes tonight. The majority of his scenes where geared toward the MM storyline, so more heroics tonight than romance.

[Sunny8]

Exactly why TPTB should do a complete re-write now! They've ruined the iconic love story of the whole mythos in one single shot!!
Lois will be like the rebound on SV, when in all other aspects of the mythos for 70 years, she's THE one! The soulmate! SO, now that they've ruined it, might as well pull out all stops and get KK signed on in ED's place and have Clark Kent end up with Lana Lang. Apparently that's how the story goes now!:rolleyes::mad:

I hope he ends up with Lana Lang because the way they have written his character now Lois is too good for him. He does not deserve her.

[Clana4Life]

Had to quote and bold that part right there.

Yeah, I think we forget sometimes in the midst of all of the relationships and triangles. I know I do, but it's suppose to be about him embracing his heroic destiny. I think we are seeing that this season more so than we've ever seen that. So I think SV is moving forward in that vein.

[Sunny8]

As Bizarro would say "Man, how can a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time?"

Isn't it sad that Bizarro had more sense than Clark?

[SmallvilleMan]

From what I've seen Lois should take what she can get:lol:

[Hmm]

Then why the heck are they spending so much time on his personal relationship with Lana?

dont you watch smallville? there are few persons who are trying to push clark towards becoming superman and lana is the most effective one because she is love of his life (not mine, chloes words..)

[WickedJenn]

Yeah, I think we forget sometimes in the midst of all of the relationships and triangles. I know I do, but it's suppose to be about him embracing his heroic destiny. I think we are seeing that this season more so than we've ever seen that. So I think SV is moving forward in that vein.

Agreed.

I mean sure, whenever one's favorite character/'ship/what have you, has a rough patch it well, can make fans miffed/upset, etc.

As long as I keep seeing Clark have Supermanly moments, like he did tonight, on the whole I feel good.

[Alwaysforever]

Lana makes Clark feel human

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Agreed.

I mean sure, whenever one's favorite character/'ship/what have you, has a rough patch it well, can make fans miffed/upset, etc.

As long as I keep seeing Clark have Supermanly moments, like he did tonight, on the whole I feel good.

He had a lot of good Supermanly moments it was nice to see

[Sunny8]

I actually agree with you, and I'm a Clark fan first. I'm usually the first person to say that a girl would be lucky to have Clark. But this episode has changed my mind (and made me painfully disgusted with my favorite character).

Clark needs to be alone for a really, really long time until he can emotionally grow up past the age of 14. He's not there yet.

And Lois, or any other woman, should never settle for being anyone's 2nd choice or rebound.

Clark can still be a great hero. But its obvious to me he is incapable of being a great love interest. IMO

Hey you said everything I wanted to say. I too am also disgusted with SV's Clark Kent. I loved him above everyone. Lois is my favorite now...unless they mess her up too.

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I would actually like to see Lois with Bruce Wayne. I know Bruce can't be in Smallville but I remember watching the made for tv animated movie/ to be continued half an hour tv episodes that Lois and Bruce went on a few dates and she was even considering moving to Gothom-of course it made Clark jealous but I would love to see it on Smallville especially because of the way tonights episode went with Lana.

Heck, I'd rather see Clark with Lori if it gives him some progress.

I think this would be a good time to get Lois a new love interest too. I also was thinking about Bruce Wayne. Maybe Lois can come back from Star City and say she has fallen for a new beau...Bruce Wayne. They could say she met him in Star City while he was visiting a friend at the same hospital that Jimmy was in. They never have to show Bruce but she can visit him a lot off screen.

[Malicieux Toutou]

Exactly why TPTB should do a complete re-write now! They've ruined the iconic love story of the whole mythos in one single shot!!
Lois will be like the rebound on SV, when in all other aspects of the mythos for 70 years, she's THE one! The soulmate! SO, now that they've ruined it, might as well pull out all stops and get KK signed on in ED's place and have Clark Kent end up with Lana Lang. Apparently that's how the story goes now!:rolleyes::mad:

I don't think it will happen this way. He just has some feelings that he needs to sort out before he's ready to move on. Being in love with Lana has been a constant for him the last 7 years; something he has always been certain of. So it won't be easy for him to admit that maybe the other LL is miss right. But he will. That's why Lana came back. There was a lot of Clois foreshadowing in the episode.

[j-kent]

haha that's true thread starter...that's messed up! Put it one way or another she's being played the rebound! My Lois! My ED!

[Sunny8]

In retrospect, a lot of his kisses with Lana were saccharine sweet, and there was feeling in them of that there is no doubt. But I saw the expression he had tonight after kissing Lana. He went into it full throttle and seemed fine to do so but afterward it was as if when he kissed her he felt in that kiss that something was not as it used to be. As if something was askew after that kiss, something wasn't quite right. I'm not going to read too much into it, but at the very least I saw confusion very plainly on his face and I'll see what comes of it in next week's episode.

You're right. Something did not look right about that kiss. It seemed awkward and passionless. Afterwards they looked at each other differently. Maybe they felt no sparks or maybe Lana is not really Lana. :confused:

[Clana4Life]

You're right. Something did not look right about that kiss. It seemed awkward and passionless. Afterwards they looked at each other differently. Maybe they felt no sparks or maybe Lana is not really Lana. :confused:

Did you see the trailer after this episode? It looks like they have another almost kiss on the rooftop of some building.

[SnowBird]

I do consider Clark, he's trying to find happiness. That's what I find so interesting about him and obviously the Clana relationship. It's something I think we all face, how to balence what we need to do and at the same time find that happiness. While at the time realizing that nothing means anything without happiness.

Not to add on or start something else, but rather a little rant on my part. I wish the previous writers as well as these ones would just allow Clark to be happy with her, just so he can feel that. They have him seemingly afraid to say, "Hey, i want to be happy".......It's like they have him believing it's wrong to want happiness and it's good to see him step up to the plate tonight for HIMSELF.

Thank you, I would so much like to see Clark truly happy and I hope to see it for a few episodes before the end of the series.

[Sunny8]

Well, they only had two scenes tonight. The majority of his scenes where geared toward the MM storyline, so more heroics tonight than romance.

I mean 7 looooong years and now, it seems, 8 years. Enough is enough.

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dont you watch smallville? there are few persons who are trying to push clark towards becoming superman and lana is the most effective one because she is love of his life (not mine, chloes words..)

On SV I guess she is, but not anywhere else. I at least expected to see some similiarity to the Clark Kent/Superman that has been written about for 70+ years but I guess it is not going to happen on SV. I can accept that but when they brought Lois on the show they made it seem like they were going in the direction Clark Kent/Superman's character has gone in before.

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Agreed.

I mean sure, whenever one's favorite character/'ship/what have you, has a rough patch it well, can make fans miffed/upset, etc.

As long as I keep seeing Clark have Supermanly moments, like he did tonight, on the whole I feel good.

It has nothing to do with ships for me. I was okay with Lana but when Clana was over it should have been over. SV showed no progress. The tv series 'Lois and Clark' lasted only 4 years and showed more progress than SV has done in 7 years. I thought season 8 was moving forward but it is not as I thought.

[fortress7081]

Obviously she's really a rebound. Sorry guys but that's the way it is!:lol::lol::lol:

[Sunny8]

Lana makes Clark feel human

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I disagree. I think she makes him feel desperate.

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Did you see the trailer after this episode? It looks like they have another almost kiss on the rooftop of some building.

And?

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Obviously she's really a rebound. Sorry guys but that's the way it is!:lol::lol::lol:

Lois has enough sense not the get stuck with an idiot Clark (meaning he will have to wise up if he is to be with her). For that matter, Lana does also. That is why she keeps pushing him away. He dumped her so much that she finally has seen that they don't work well together.

[Watching Smallville]

IMHO, Clark already has a healthier relationship with Lois than he does with Lana. Lana was happier with Bizarro, they always manage to sabotage their relationship, it goes on, but it doesn't develop. His relationship with Lois actually makes progress, and they have a steady bond. They're already close. And I think this is confusing for Clark, who has been convinced all this life that he was "meant" to be with Lana. To me, this seems to be a last ditch effort to make that belief a reality. But from what I've seen, he's already fallen for Lois. He just can't adjust to the idea.

[fortress7081]

Wise to be with Lois??I don't think so.:lol::lol::lol:. I think Lana is a package for Clark.:)IMO

[CLanaF23]

actually. i like this episode because Lana was in it.

and yes Lois will be Clark's rebound girl. we all know deep down she will always be the rebound girl, the second choice because he cant have Lana. get over it.

we all know lana and CLARK still love each other.just like in the Notebook. allie fell in love with that other guy although she still loved Noah. and thats what Clark is gonna do cause of the writers lois is the otehr guy its just smallville doesnt have the noah and allie aka lana and clark end up together which sucks but whatever

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Im not too fussed at the mo. It would 'seem' things are back to the way they were. but trust me it isnt. Clana is dead!!

Lois needs to have as many walls as possible when she comes back.

[j-kent]

actually. i like this episode because Lana was in it.

and yes Lois will be Clark's rebound girl. we all know deep down she will always be the rebound girl, the second choice because he cant have Lana. get over it.

we all know lana and CLARK still love each other.just like in the Notebook. allie fell in love with that other guy although she still loved Noah. and thats what Clark is gonna do cause of the writers lois is the otehr guy its just smallville doesnt have the noah and allie aka lana and clark end up together which sucks but whatever

Maybe a rebound in the context of this show...but definitely not a rebound in the L & C mythology. In many continuations, Lana was Clark's high school love and was there to show that Clark was able to love. Lois is a big part of his life, in later time of his life, and we find out a better fit for a Superman.

[zHeN_zHeN]

Ah, well... soon Lana will be in the past. She'll be long gone and nothing more than an afterthought.

[new_smallville_lover]

Okay...here is my thinking with the whole Clana thing...I hate it but I understand it. In my experience guys who have on again off again girlfriends who treat them badly, usually really sweet guys, tend to go back to them over and over again until they find someone who appreciates how sweet and caring they are. That would usually be a girl who has also been in a few bad relationships.

So while I hate the Clana I think it is important for the story line. Once he finds out Lana is once again keeping secrets from him he will be able to appreciate how much better a person Lois is then Lana. Then hopefully we will see him chasing Lois as he has a lot to make up for if he intends to get another chance with her.

[eas]

I get a little tired of the negetive attitude against Clark. Lana was his first love. Clark and Lois has never been a couple so he isn't cheating on her. Lana will forever be the first. She has been gone for 7 months by Lana's words. Would Lois be a rebound girl after 7 months since he almost kissed Lois? How long do you have to be single before the next love is a rebound? I would really like to know. I don't think Lois and Clark is going to be a couple this season so I don't see Lois as a rebound.

Yes, I see what you're saying.

I think, for me, it's important that they don't explore Clois for the rest of the season. When Lois gets back, I think that they should have Lois doing her own thing and there shouldn't be any declarations of love or anything.

Then, if they get a S9, they can get into it. In S8, though? She'll look like a rebound.

[Isabel14]

I know he will realize that he loves Lois, but now I'm so mad on him, because 1. he never showed that at least he missed her and he always is talking about her like she's his buddy or something, wait no, even worse, 2.he seemed to never think at their almost kiss...so..I want him to work really hard for her love..

[myankskent]

Well, they only had two scenes tonight. The majority of his scenes where geared toward the MM storyline, so more heroics tonight than romance.

I agree about this episode, but when you look at this entire series, it's an equal blend of Clark's romantic life with Lana and his heroic journey.

[new_smallville_lover]

I know he will realize that he loves Lois, but now I'm so mad on him, because 1. he never showed that at least he missed her and he always is talking about her like she's his buddy or something, wait no, even worse, 2.he seemed to never think at their almost kiss...so..I want him to work really hard for her love..

I disagree... I think it was obvious when Chloe brought up Lois that he had been thinking about her. But as we know even from the Lana crap in earlier seasons he usually takes the easy way out...In my opinion a part of him wants to make it work with her because she knows his secret and it would be easier than telling Lois. It will be much more complicated with her. She doesn't know exactly how she feels about him or how he feels about her. But I think it became obvious to him when he kissed Lana that it wasn't what he expceted...Yet knowing Clark he will still chase after it trying to make himself feel something he doesn't

[Cogito17]

If anything Lois looked more like a rebound girl earlier in the season. I don't understand why people are so concerned that she will look like the "rebound girl" now.

Earlier in the season, Clark was coming off being dumped in a rather harsh manner, and had admitted that he still had some lingering feelings about Lana. But people are okay with him progressing his relationship to Lois at that point, without it seeming like Clark is on the rebound?

But, assuming Clark and Lana come to some kind of understanding that they are meant to be friends and mutually decide to go their seperate ways, NOW she seems like she is just coming in on the rebound? I must say I disagree. While we don't know how this arc with Lana will end, I don't see how she undisputably will appear to be a rebound girl, or at least certainly not MORE of Clark's rebound than she was before.

Clark and Lois developing a relationship after Clark was dumped and Clark has lingering feelings for his ex seems a lot more like a rebound than Clark and Lois developing a relationship after Clark and Lana mutually decide to be friends. If anything, this arc has more potential to make Lois seem like less of a rebound, not more of one.

[eas]

I'll admit, I loved the episode. Not for the ending. To be honest, I groaned painfully when I saw them kiss.

But the Dan Turpin storyline was oh so good. And seeing Clark interact with cops and really see not just the black and white of a situation was like the most delicious payoff ever. I loved that he got to lecture Ollie. About the grey area no less, that was awesome!

I used to be annoyed that Smallville never dealt with some of the really dark issues with humanity. FotW storylines were painful. And this was a story that finally satisfied that desire I've had for so long. Seeing Clark helping to stop a cop from crossing a line is a very mature issue.

I loved how pro-active he's been. And seeing him admit in the end with John and Ollie that sometimes you need people watching your back is such a far cry from his solo attitude in "Justice" that pissed me off.

I feel the same way. Overall, I really loved this episode.

As far as Clana vs. Clois is concerned: It's pointless.

I'm going to step back for a moment and say that Clark has a very different relationship with both women. And I think this is something that both Clana fans and Clois fans have to come to terms with, because it's good & bad for both groups.

He's been madly in love with Lana for years. Has that evolved to just plain love and not being "in" love? We don't know, yet. He has put Lana on a pedestal and refused to see things with her in a realistic way. Even when Lana asked him to and called him on it. Clark sees something in Lana that - perhaps - no one else sees, but that's HIS call to make. I can't look down on him for that. At this point, I felt that his reaction to Lana made sense. The episodes started with him avoiding her. He made Chloe come back from Star City to help him with research instead of asking Lana to do it. He brushed her off when she tried to have a coffee with him. And, then, at the very end, he chose to go Lana, because she broke up with him to save the world (so he thinks). His response, at the moment, was to say, "Why does it have to be that way?" He kissed her. Why wouldn't he kiss her? These two have had years of history and they've lived together, slept together.

Moving on to Clois... he's never idealized her, that's for sure. :lol: He doesn't put her on a pedestal and he has no problem being rude or sarcastic to her. But he cares for her and they're very good friends. I see a healthy amount of mutual respect and friendship between them. There's a lot about Clark that Lois doesn't know. But I think there's a lot about Lois that Clark doesn't know, too. She still surprises him and I think that's the biggest difference between Lana & Lois, in Clark's eyes. Maybe it's because he met Lois late in life or what-not, but he doesn't pigeon-hole Lois & try to get her to behave the way he believes she SHOULD be... and that makes their friendship easier to digest. He's also phyisically attracted to her, but I think that he would hesitate (and he is) in anything going deeper between them, because I think that he is scared. She's very different than any woman he has ever been with. And he's still unsure of where things stand with Lana, so he probably thinks "no action" is better than trying to move forward with Lois and ending up hurting her more down the road.

Anyway... the fact is that Clark loves Lana & I think he's in the process of falling in love with Lois. I think it's not ideal that they overlapped these two relationships & it makes Clark look confused and a bit out of it. But, hey, that's life. "SV" is the "Clark, Lex, and Lana" show, after all.

[melissan02]

Yes, I see what you're saying.

I think, for me, it's important that they don't explore Clois for the rest of the season. When Lois gets back, I think that they should have Lois doing her own thing and there shouldn't be any declarations of love or anything.

Then, if they get a S9, they can get into it. In S8, though? She'll look like a rebound.
She'll look like a rebound no matter a season 9 or not at this point.:( TPTB ruined that last night in one fail shot! Even more disappointing, they ruined Clark in one fail shot last night too!! I'll leave the REAL interpretation of Superman to the comics, and Christopher Reeve:), and (as much as it pains me to say it), Brandon Routh!!!
I don't want CLOIS now at all....it's tainted, and it shouldn't be....shouldn't ever be!!

[supes0]

I'm going to step back for a moment and say that Clark has a very different relationship with both women. And I think this is something that both Clana fans and Clois fans have to come to terms with, because it's good & bad for both groups.

Bravo. I couldn't agree more.



Anyway... the fact is that Clark loves Lana & I think he's in the process of falling in love with Lois. I think it's not ideal that they overlapped these two relationships & it makes Clark look confused and a bit out of it. But, hey, that's life. "SV" is the "Clark, Lex, and Lana" show, after all.

Again, I couldn't agree more. Thanks for a very well thought out post Sana

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And I don't think Clark was that horrible, I think he is just confused and dealing with a Lana that is in the here and now. I think it is easier to try and fall into a comfort zone with Lana than to try and confront what he feels about Lois which is supremely complicated.

He had a look on his face at the end of the Clana kiss that makes me think he might realize what he needs and doesn't need before Lois gets back. As to what or who that is, I'll leave that up to you shippers.

This is exactly how I saw this too. He mentions times when they were 14. 14!! He's looking backwards, afraid to let go.

The first 10 episodes not only set up Lois's feelings, they showed us a conflicted Clark. He was unable to tell Jimmy people ever get over their first love in Instinct, because he hadn't.

The scene with Chloe in this episode had him wondering just that. The "can you" was not a rhetorical question asked in confidence, it was self-reflection looking for reassurance that he can't fall out of love like that.

It's scary to fall out of love, just as scary as falling in love.

Lois isn't anybody's second choice, she's won't allow herself to be. If he was looking for a rebound, he would look for a quiet Lana substitute. Lois irritates him, pushes him places he doesn't always want to go, and if he doesn't keep up, she won't wait.


I also know that Lois would never let herself be a rebound girl and have a very good feeling in my gut, Lois fan that I am, that Clark is going to have to WORK to get her interested again.

Yes. He's going to have to chase her, the same way he has had to in any telling of the story. Except this time, many in the audience's sympathy will lie with Lois, not Clark.

Nobody could call Lois shallow or blind for not seeing Clark this time. Instead many will cheer her on, me included. Make Clark work to regain the trust, no pity from me!!


I'm not going to read too much into it, but at the very least I saw confusion very plainly on his face and I'll see what comes of it in next week's episode.

I always thought the kiss would be the beginning of the end. The moment when he realizes he isn't a teenager anymore. And as you say, next episode will tell the story.

[nic25]

Maybe a rebound in the context of this show...but definitely not a rebound in the L & C mythology. In many continuations, Lana was Clark's high school love and was there to show that Clark was able to love. Lois is a big part of his life, in later time of his life, and we find out a better fit for a Superman.

Although they May,it doesnt feel like they are moving in that direction.Not without feeling a little rushed.

[eas]

If anything Lois looked more like a rebound girl earlier in the season. I don't understand why people are so concerned that she will look like the "rebound girl" now.

Earlier in the season, Clark was coming off being dumped in a rather harsh manner, and had admitted that he still had some lingering feelings about Lana. But people are okay with him progressing his relationship to Lois at that point, without it seeming like Clark is on the rebound?

I can't speak for anyone else here, but I actually don't have a problem with how the first half played out, for the most part. Between "Odyssey" and "Abyss", I think they handled it well. Clark and Lois had a deepening friendship... Lois fell in love with him. (Who can blame her?) Clark, for his part, enjoyed hanging out with Lois, was a good friend to her, and flirted/bantered with her. But when it came down to it, he was still mourning the loss of his relationship with Lana & trying to come to terms with how the whole "saving the world" thing was going to wreck havoc on his personal life.

I think the part where they dropped the ball and hurt BOTH Lois and Clark's characters was "Bride". My anger and frustration stems from the events of "Bride" only. They took things too far with Lois's feelings & then they really crossed the line by having Clark realize the depth of Lois's feelings & trying to kiss her.

THAT'S the point where I feel frustrated. All the stuff going down in Clana's arc? I would have been cool with it, if Clark hadn't leaned in to kiss Lois in "Bride" and if he hadn't seen her reaction to him reading Jimmy's vows.

I think that Clois is cheapened, somehow, by having Clark give Clana another shot when he knows that he might be able to move on from Lana & end up being with Lois. Before, Lois wasn't a possibility for him, so Clana never annoyed me. But now? He's opened that door and it's hard not see him walk through it because of Lana.

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She'll look like a rebound no matter a season 9 or not at this point.

I don't know, Melissa, I think I can't agree with that. I'm not happy, by any means, in how this is playing out. (It's at Lois's expense and that saddens me.)

But, honestly, a year from now, Clark has every right to move on to someone else & for people to not see it as a rebound. If Clana end up breaking up because "the world needs Clark more" and then - a year later - he can't help but chase after Lois and try to make it work with her? She's still his first choice, because this is Superman. He can chase after Lana from one end of the earth to the other, if he wants. But, instead, he chooses to love Lois and make it work with her in a way he never did with Lana.

That's not a rebound... that's love.

However, if he chooses to go after Lois about... oh... one episode after Lana leaves, that makes him look bad & the whole thing is suspect to me.

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Bravo. I couldn't agree more.



Again, I couldn't agree more. Thanks for a very well thought out post Sana

Thanks!! For the record, you can't say "I told you so" yet. You'll have to wait until after "Requiem". ;)


This is exactly how I saw this too. He mentions times when they were 14. 14!! He's looking backwards, afraid to let go.

The first 10 episodes not only set up Lois's feelings, they showed us a conflicted Clark. He was unable to tell Jimmy people ever get over their first love in Instinct, because he hadn't.

The scene with Chloe in this episode had him wondering just that. The "can you" was not a rhetorical question asked in confidence, it was self-reflection looking for reassurance that he can't fall out of love like that.

It's scary to fall out of love, just as scary as falling in love.

I think for Clark it's even scarier than more people, because 'being in love with Lana Lang' has been a huge part of who he was when he was growing up. It was part of his identity. The second he acknowledges (to himself and others) that he's no longer in love with her, he loses a huge part of his youth and what he was.

I saw the moment where he kissed her as being well played. It was on the Talon set, in a location where they used to meet as kids. I think it's very telling that this scene didn't happen in the loft, her old apartment, or his kitchen. Those were places they had bad memories.... the coffee house hearkened back to their nice days, when Lana first started falling in love with him.

I think it was the beginning of the end and their relationship was coming full circle. Clark saw her, remembered their good times, and he's trying to hold onto that. But, I think, the next episodes will show him coming to terms with the fact that it's gone. What he's trying to hold onto just doesn't exist anymore.

[lane06]

wow this room is steamin'! i haven't seen the episode yet coz unfortunately im on the wrong pole of the globe but reading your rants makes me want lois to come back with another man...

[supes0]

Thanks!! For the record, you can't say "I told you so" yet. You'll have to wait until after "Requiem". ;)



:rotfl:

I wasn't going to even then! It's a win/win for all of us if Clark retains his dignity, and so far, so good!!





I think for Clark it's even scarier than more people, because 'being in love with Lana Lang' has been a huge part of who he was when he was growing up. It was part of his identity. The second he acknowledges (to himself and others) that he's no longer in love with her, he loses a huge part of his youth and what he was.

Well said.

Also, we have the advantage of knowing how his journey to manhood ends. But we're watching the character find his way. Even in the comic verse, he didn't immediately see Lois and say "soulmate". There was an immediate attraction, but they had their up/down pitfalls too before they both figured it out and married.

He needs to close the door to this chapter before he can move on. Had he not had the opportunity to confront his conflict, and work it through, then any other woman in his life would be competing with the ghost of this failed relationship. He needs to divest himself of the emotional baggage before he can offer anybody (Lois or whomever) his full heart.



I think it was the beginning of the end and their relationship was coming full circle. Clark saw her, remembered their good times, and he's trying to hold onto that. But, I think, the next episodes will show him coming to terms with the fact that it's gone. What he's trying to hold onto just doesn't exist anymore.

Me too. I also found it very touching and dare I say, realistic?

[Timester]

I saw the moment where he kissed her as being well played. It was on the Talon set, in a location where they used to meet as kids. I think it's very telling that this scene didn't happen in the loft, her old apartment, or his kitchen. Those were places they had bad memories.... the coffee house hearkened back to their nice days, when Lana first started falling in love with him.

Yeah, I agree on the symbolism of the scene. The scene was taken right from season 2, when all started. They came full circle now.

[simplemath]

Okay Im a clana fan, but before anybody judges me and say bad stuuf about clana, I would just like to pint out that its unfair for lois if clark suddenly falls fopr her out of nowhere when KK leaves the show. I mean that will practically say that Clark only dated lois because he was huret when lana left for good. I think they should let clark date another rebound girl before actually getting another serious relationship ( which is in fact Lois)

[Theshadow129x]

^too bad its over in two weeks! I hope it ends in that very same spot too!

[eas]

:rotfl:

I wasn't going to even then! It's a win/win for all of us if Clark retains his dignity, and so far, so good!!

No, you can... I promised you I'd let you.... :)


Also, we have the advantage of knowing how his journey to manhood ends. But we're watching the character find his way. Even in the comic verse, he didn't immediately see Lois and say "soulmate". There was an immediate attraction, but they had their up/down pitfalls too before they both figured it out and married.

Yeah, that's what Cloisers have to come to terms with: His journey isn't over. Part of his journey has been trying to find that special girl who is destined to be his soulmate. He is not anywhere NEAR realizing that it's Lois Lane!! But he HAS spent years thinking it was Lana Lang.

So, now, he's put in a situation where he almost kissed Lois, but the woman who he has always thought was his destiny walks through the door. Why would he turn back and say, "Yeah, Lois, let's figure this out..."???

I'm not happy about it, of course, because I think this causes Lois to be shafted, but - narrative wise - it makes sense for Clark to want to resolve things with Lana, one way or the other, before he can even CONSIDER Lois.

Later on in life, though, I guess the joke is on him, because Lois can be like, "You're an idiot. Your future wife was standing RIGHT THERE, and you were all about Lana."

I know we all see Lana's flaws clearly and it's hard for us to imagine why Clark would choose a woman with Lana's flaws over Lois (who has her own set of flaws), but - honestly - that's not our call to make. He sees something, clearly, in Lana that we don't see & it's HIS decision to choose whether or not fall out of love with this woman.

I just can't be angry at him for it. I really can't.

[nic25]

ok so i was just thinking...maybe they arent really screwing with us.Maybe they really want to just finish everything with Lana,before they even think of strating Clois.They are not going to start another love triangle.Which is good right??

[Theshadow129x]

Okay Im a clana fan, but before anybody judges me and say bad stuuf about clana, I would just like to pint out that its unfair for lois if clark suddenly falls fopr her out of nowhere when KK leaves the show. I mean that will practically say that Clark only dated lois because he was huret when lana left for good. I think they should let clark date another rebound girl before actually getting another serious relationship ( which is in fact Lois)


No one here is going to bash you for liking Lana. Its just there isnt a real point for them to start the relationship again when its over in 2 weeks. Besides that, Clark and Lana just arent right for each other, the time away from each other truly should have put that in perspective for Clark and Lana. Yes, you dont simply stop loving someone, but after 6 months apart you realize how much your life has changed without that person in your life and theres no heartbreak there and hasnt been since the end of the relationship. Both Lana and Clark should have relaized that they aren right for each other.

Theres no more secrets on Clark's end, he's honest with her about everything now, Lana however has become the very thing she swears she hates. She's keeping secrets and lies from Clark about why she is back and what she has been up to.

This is a constant thing we have been put through since season 4 of smallville. It should have ended last season but it hasnt. Thats why we want the end of it.

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ok so i was just thinking...maybe they arent really screwing with us.Maybe they really want to just finish everything with Lana,before they even think of strating Clois.They are not going to start another love triangle.Which is good right??

thats all the know how to do to bring tension to the show.

[eas]

Me too. I also found it very touching and dare I say, realistic?

It was realistic, I agree. I would have found it odd if he didn't kiss her in that moment. How could he stand there, where he had stood as a young boy, and have before him the girl that he used to fantasize about and not have a moment, "What if...?"

What if they don't have to be apart? What if they could just be that young couple, again, just starting out a fresh relationship? Why couldn't they be that Clark and Lana again?

Another thing to note is that Dan Turpin's wife was his high school sweetheart & he carried around with him a picture of them from high school.

It was an episode devoted to exploring: "What is holding Clark and Lana back? Why must he choose between Lana and saving the world?"

I mean, this is a question that I'VE been asking, as well. Why on earth doesn't it work out with Lana and Clark (meaning, why does he have to choose?) when - in the future - he has no problem doing both with Lois?

I don't know if they'll ever answer this, but this episode - imo - did kind of start going down that road.

[supes0]

Yeah, that's what Cloisers have to come to terms with: His journey isn't over. Part of his journey has been trying to find that special girl who is destined to be his soulmate. He is not anywhere NEAR realizing that it's Lois Lane!! But he HAS spent years thinking it was Lana Lang.

Yep. And we've seen him this season struggling to figure it out. Part of what has been so disorienting is SV turned the story sideways if you will.

Lois put herself out there first, she's been 1 step ahead of Clark through out this. Toxic was her farewell moment to her past. Then she began to look at Clark clearly. It started with her reaction in Instinct to Maxima, she didn't say anything when Maxima called her on how she felt finding Clark/Maxima in the elevator.

When she came up to the loft to talk about the story, the look she gave him before he turned around said it loud and clear. She knows she's falling. I think that was the reason for her emotional response to his soulmate question.

She is standing right there and he doesn't see, he is still mired in the past.




I'm not happy about it, of course, because I think this causes Lois to be shafted, but - narrative wise - it makes sense for Clark to want to resolve things with Lana, one way or the other, before he can even CONSIDER Lois.

I agree. I hate that Lois was hurt by this. But in the long run it is better he walk away without kissing her (how much worse would this be if he had kissed her) and explore his unresolved issues with Lana.

I firmly believe without Lana closure, Lois would be the rebound. I was so worried they would kiss in Bride or before the Lana arc. I'm glad they didn't.

I think the clana resolution puts the story on track so he goes to Lois with clear purpose and direction. When he turns to her it's because he knows she's the right person for him.

Meanwhile she isn't going to want to take a chance on him because for the reasons posted in this thread. She doesn't want to be second choice, the rebound. So she maybe she makes his life difficult, leading him on a merry chase. And why not? He needs to show her he's grown up, he needs to show her he is no longer confused, that he understands what he wants and is willing to fight to regain her trust.




I just can't be angry at him for it. I really can't.

Me neither. I don't like it, but I understand it.

[darkone]

I don't think it's rebound because I doubt that Clark get's into a relationship with her after Lana leaves but it's clearly settling and nothing willl ever convince me from something else. And I don't even need Bulletproof to come to that conclusion.

[supes0]

Another thing to note is that Dan Turpin's wife was his high school sweetheart & he carried around with him a picture of them from high school.

It was an episode devoted to exploring: "What is holding Clark and Lana back? Why must he choose between Lana and saving the world?"


Excellent catch.

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I mean, this is a question that I'VE been asking, as well. Why on earth doesn't it work out with Lana and Clark (meaning, why does he have to choose?) when - in the future - he has no problem doing both with Lois?

I am wondering if Infamous will answer this question?

[Clana4Life]

I don't think it's rebound because I doubt that Clark get's into a relationship with her after Lana leaves but it's clearly settling and nothing willl ever convince me from something else. And I don't even need Bulletproof to come to that conclusion.

I love your avatar! Yeah, there's nothing TPTB can do now. Clana seems cemented. I don't know if any Cloiser can be happy with Clois after this. I mean I'll enjoy Clois for what it is, but I won't forget that Clark wanted to give it all up to be with Lana.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Clark wanted to give it all up to be with Lana.

That's not a good thing.

The goal is for him to not HAVE to 'give it all up' to be with the woman he loves.

Dan didn't stop being a cop so that he could be with the woman he loved. He pursued that career for heroic reasons (true he strayed from the path, just like one could say Clark has strayed from the path before, but he got back on the path at the end) and managed to stay with the woman he loved, marrying her and having a son with her.

True, Dan is a human cop and Clark is an alien super-being, but the ideal is the same.

You shouldn't want or have to give UP being a hero for your true love, but should be able to be both in a loving relationship and remaining a hero.

When Dan asked Clark if he had anyone that made it all worth it, he didn't mean to ask if Clark had anyone that was worth giving it all up for. He was asking if Clark, like himself, had someone in his life that he loved enough, that made his life loving enough that he could keep going out there, fighting the good fight, even though he knew someday he might not come back home. Someone that well . . . made it all worth it.

I also don't think Clark had any intention of giving it all up for Lana, I think he meant to ask her why it wouldn't work with him also being a hero as long as she was there and he was there.

[skizzo]

she always was his rebound, and she'll be his rebound when Lana leaves again. That's how it is. That's how I see it anyway. At least in SV.

[Clana4Life]

That's not a good thing.

The goal is for him to not HAVE to 'give it all up' to be with the woman he loves.

Dan didn't stop being a cop so that he could be with the woman he loved. He pursued that career for heroic reasons (true he strayed from the path, just like one could say Clark has strayed from the path before, but he got back on the path at the end) and managed to stay with the woman he loved, marrying her and having a son with her.

True, Dan is a human cop and Clark is an alien super-being, but the ideal is the same.

You shouldn't want or have to give UP being a hero for your true love, but should be able to be both in a loving relationship and remaining a hero.

When Dan asked Clark if he had anyone that made it all worth it, he didn't mean to ask if Clark had anyone that was worth giving it all up for. He was asking if Clark, like himself, had someone in his life that he loved enough, that made his life loving enough that he could keep going out there, fighting the good fight, even though he knew someday he might not come back home. Someone that well . . . made it all worth it.

I also don't think Clark had any intention of giving it all up for Lana, I think he meant to ask her why it wouldn't work with him also being a hero as long as she was there and he was there.

If he didn't have any intention, then why did he ask her? It seems like he meant to ask her what he asked her. He didn't seem confused. Right now Lana is saying they can't be together because the world needs him more. So he is trying to find a way that they can be together. Put themselves first and the world comes second. Maybe I said it wrong - when I said "give it all up." Not give it up, but put what they both want (each other) first and the world second. Family first - work second.

[LovelyLoisLane]

If he didn't have any intention, then why did he ask her?

I'm sorry, I know you are excited, but you need to really read a post before you quote it and respond.

I said . . .


I also don't think Clark had any intention of giving it all up for Lana, I think he meant to ask her why it wouldn't work with him also being a hero as long as she was there and he was there.

And the logic of why it keeps repeating 'he didn't seem confused' when no one said Clark was confused about what he said to Lana, but only that his face after the kiss, after he said all that, looked perplexed.

It wasn't just him though, because once I was able to watch it on loop I noticed a look on Lana's face that didn't seem confused, but it was like she was . . . well not uncomfortable but as if there was an awkwardness there.

At any rate, when anyone says they will believe Clana are soulmates no what happens, it is rather a moot point trying to debate anything. If no matter what happens you won't believe anything but what you want to then that isn't exactly being open minded. You need to look outside the box and at least try and see what other people are saying, even when you don't agree.

I detest romantic Clana, but I can see what was on the show and I can usually see where people are coming from even when I really disagree. For instance, I know that at least somewhere inside Clark will always love Lana, but I know because of my own relationships with other adults, and even those people who I had relationships with as a kid (teenager) that you can't always be in love with someone that you are no longer with. It isn't healthy and moving on is a necessity.

I suppose that might not mean much on the show, but I'm hoping it does because I don't much care to see Clark forever pining after Lana. They need to settle things.

[Theshadow129x]

die lana die!

[LovelyLoisLane]

It is not quite all that bad.

To be fair, she did try to rebuff him. She did a poor job of that but she did try. Really, it has to be Clark's decision as well as Lana's in the end.

[individuall]

No Lois will not be Clark's rebound.

[ColdPlay3r]

No Lois will not be Clark's rebound.
agreed:D:D:D

[Theshadow129x]

The show is making it seem like Lana is more than a woman than Lois and I seriosuly don't like that. I dont care what any Clana person says. A girl, like Lana, cares for themselves and their own ventures. A woman, like Lois, cares for others and looks to do selfless for others too. Lana is too wound up with herself to be with Clark.

[Clana4Life]

I'm sorry, I know you are excited, but you need to really read a post before you quote it and respond.

I said . . .



And the logic of why it keeps repeating 'he didn't seem confused' when no one said Clark was confused about what he said to Lana, but only that his face after the kiss, after he said all that, looked perplexed.

It wasn't just him though, because once I was able to watch it on loop I noticed a look on Lana's face that didn't seem confused, but it was like she was . . . well not uncomfortable but as if there was an awkwardness there.

At any rate, when anyone says they will believe Clana are soulmates no what happens, it is rather a moot point trying to debate anything. If no matter what happens you won't believe anything but what you want to then that isn't exactly being open minded. You need to look outside the box and at least try and see what other people are saying, even when you don't agree.

I detest romantic Clana, but I can see what was on the show and I can usually see where people are coming from even when I really disagree. For instance, I know that at least somewhere inside Clark will always love Lana, but I know because of my own relationships with other adults, and even those people who I had relationships with as a kid (teenager) that you can't always be in love with someone that you are no longer with. It isn't healthy and moving on is a necessity.

I suppose that might not mean much on the show, but I'm hoping it does because I don't much care to see Clark forever pining after Lana. They need to settle things.

I'm not that excited. I read your post. Obviously to "really read" a post must mean something different. But there is no need to be rude. Perhaps you did not understand my post.
Your Quote: "I also don't think Clark had any intention of giving it all up for Lana, I think he meant to ask her why it wouldn't work with him also being a hero as long as she was there and he was there."
To which I responded if he didn't have any intention why did he ask her, i.e., why did he ask her "what if the world didn't have to come first". If he had meant to ask her why it wouldn't work with him also being a hero as long as she was there and he was there, then he would have asked her that. That's not what he asked her, though. We can't say what a character meant to ask if he has already crystal clearly said his line (or in this case asked the question). Why can't what the character asked be what he meant to ask? He didn't seem confused about what he was asking her. He was talking about what they both needed and not what the world needed.
Quizas tu no me entiendes. No te preocupes. No es importante.

[paolinki25]

The only way that they can fix this mess they have created is for both Lois and Clark to go separate ways, solve their emotional turmoil, and meet again at the DP, mature enough to have the iconic relationship they are destined to have.

[Clana4Life]

The only way that they can fix this mess they have created is for both Lois and Clark to go separate ways, solve their emotional turmoil, and meet again at the DP, mature enough to have the iconic relationship they are destined to have.

How many years are we talking?

[Super]

Lana is evil, she's the devil! She needs to disappear so we can get Clois back on track.

Clois ftw

[wolverine316]

This episode officially ended Clois. The last few minutes put a nail in that coffin. Being someones afterthought is horrible.

[Clana Kent]

The show is making it seem like Lana is more than a woman than Lois and I seriosuly don't like that. I dont care what any Clana person says. A girl, like Lana, cares for themselves and their own ventures. A woman, like Lois, cares for others and looks to do selfless for others too. Lana is too wound up with herself to be with Clark.
I've never seen Lois being selfless :confused: But that could be me :p I've never been very interested in the girl, so I don't really know...

Lana, however, founded Isis to help Meteor Freaks that seek for help. That's gotta sound for something :) And when she saved Clark from Green K in Bride, she wasn't very selfish either, now was she? ;)

[davidbrenton]

This episode officially ended Clois. The last few minutes put a nail in that coffin. Being someones afterthought is horrible.

To bear this episode, I went back and watched Committed and Bride. These OUTSTANDING CLOIS episodes give me faith that PS3 know what they are doing. We are at the beginning of the end with Clana, which is why some are so nervous. By next week, I hope we can see hints of the end- AN ENDING OF CLANA.

[Clana Kent]

This episode officially ended Clois. The last few minutes put a nail in that coffin. Being someones afterthought is horrible.
I'm afraid Clois can not be ended ;)

[LiLViLLiaN]

NO Lois will not be Clark's rebound because underneath it all he has hidden feelings for her. This has been going on for awhile. He just doesn't understand those feelings yet. Soon as Lana leaves for good he can finally explore what he is feeling for Lois. When Chloe stuck up for her big cousin Lo...Clark never once denied his feelings for Lois. He just couldn't explain "Lois." Which means she is totally messing with his emotions deep down.

[lm1212]

Clois is far from over. I re-watched the last scene, and after Clark and Lana broke a part, Clark was confused and unsure...like something was wrong. The music even ended on an unsure note. I thought it was quite tasteful of the writers.

[febo]

You r right
but they are not stupid: they know everyone knows Lois is the one, so let's see how they pull this off!
season 9?
I hope so!
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and xcuseme: Lois a rebound??!!
NEVER EVER!

[vyperman7]

I didn't have a problem with Lana coming back because her character needed closure and an explanation as to why she just up and left. However, I wish that her return had only been about those things, and that they could have kept her relationship with Clark on a platonic level. We have seen romantic Clana so much already over the course of the show and since Lana is only here for 5 eps, why try to stir things up only to shut it down a few eps later? Especially when they really dove into Clois in Bride.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen Lana bring up the idea in Bride, and see Clark be the one to turn her down. Then as Lana asks "Lois?" Doomsday crashes the party and we never get a straight answer. Then over the next four episodes, Lana's story is brought to a close, and we see Lana give Clark friendly advice on how to handle Lois. It would have been great to get a reference back to S4 when Lana told Clark he would be into Lois by her saying an "I told you so" or something along those lines.

[llk6165]

I've never seen Lois being selfless :confused: But that could be me :p I've never been very interested in the girl, so I don't really know...

Lana, however, founded Isis to help Meteor Freaks that seek for help. That's gotta sound for something :) And when she saved Clark from Green K in Bride, she wasn't very selfish either, now was she? ;)

You raise a point I've always had a question about. Lana stole ten million from Lex, then when Clark confronted her she said it was for Isis. Why was she sneaking around before he confronted her. That was one part of the series I never understood.

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I didn't have a problem with Lana coming back because her character needed closure and an explanation as to why she just up and left. However, I wish that her return had only been about those things, and that they could have kept her relationship with Clark on a platonic level. We have seen romantic Clana so much already over the course of the show and since Lana is only here for 5 eps, why try to stir things up only to shut it down a few eps later? Especially when they really dove into Clois in Bride.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen Lana bring up the idea in Bride, and see Clark be the one to turn her down. Then as Lana asks "Lois?" Doomsday crashes the party and we never get a straight answer. Then over the next four episodes, Lana's story is brought to a close, and we see Lana give Clark friendly advice on how to handle Lois. It would have been great to get a reference back to S4 when Lana told Clark he would be into Lois by her saying an "I told you so" or something along those lines.

You are definitely hired for writing the next episodes starting ASAP

[petitemimi]

^^ Why, this totally makes sense! That's why it has no chance of happening! :lol:

[vyperman7]

You are definitely hired for writing the next episodes starting ASAP

Thanks..LOL

For some reason the writers have always been Clana obsessed. I could see bringing it back in S5 and doing it S7 was overkill, but at least they had a whole season. However, there is no need to do it yet again, especially with only 5 episodes to work with. They spent the whole first half of the season laying the groundwork for Clois and showing that Clark has feelings for her. So why not use Lana's five episodes to effectively make us care for her as a character, and not associate her with Clark romantically?

I think if they had Clark turn her down, made things platonic, and focused strictly on her character and helping out with Lois, it would have made a lot of fans at least tolerate her if not like her better.

[Jack-El49]

I didn't have a problem with Lana coming back because her character needed closure and an explanation as to why she just up and left. However, I wish that her return had only been about those things, and that they could have kept her relationship with Clark on a platonic level. We have seen romantic Clana so much already over the course of the show and since Lana is only here for 5 eps, why try to stir things up only to shut it down a few eps later? Especially when they really dove into Clois in Bride.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen Lana bring up the idea in Bride, and see Clark be the one to turn her down. Then as Lana asks "Lois?" Doomsday crashes the party and we never get a straight answer. Then over the next four episodes, Lana's story is brought to a close, and we see Lana give Clark friendly advice on how to handle Lois. It would have been great to get a reference back to S4 when Lana told Clark he would be into Lois by her saying an "I told you so" or something along those lines.

Exactly! I almost feel that in negotiating her return for this 5-episode arc, Al/Miles forced PS3 to write it this way and make it a condition of fulfilling her contract. All the Clanadrama-rama should have ended last season and YOU, Ryan, should have written this arc!

[halvor311]

I'm a little tired of Clana, but I think everybody's being a little hard on it. Just give it time, he might genuinely fall for Lois, they just want to take it slowly and maybe they'll bring it full circle in season 9 or maybe season 9 will consist of Clark having to hide who he is from Lois. I think in a way Clark is sort of still resisting the change that kind of needs to come, but can you blame him? LOOK AT LANA!!! DAMN!!!!! haha, anyway. I think we just need to be a little more patient with the Clois and it will come. I personally was always a Chlark person, but I can live with them being best friends, I loved Legion not just for the badass of it, but also for the Chlark scenes, plus Chloe remembering Clark's secret

[vyperman7]

Exactly! I almost feel that in negotiating her return for this 5-episode arc, Al/Miles forced PS3 to write it this way and make it a condition of fulfilling her contract. All the Clanadrama-rama should have ended last season and YOU, Ryan, should have written this arc!

Thanks!

The thing we have never seen in the Clana relationship is Clark be the one to want to end things. I know that there was the scene in Hypnotic when he broke up with her and said "I don't love you." But, you could tell he was lying his ass off and that he still wanted to be with her. However, if Lana had said she wanted to try again in Bride, and Clark turns her down because his feelings had changed, that would finally be taking some new ground.

Then we get four episodes on Lana's story and bringing closure to it, and Clark having to deal with his feelings for Lois.


I personally was always a Chlark person, but I can live with them being best friends, I loved Legion not just for the badass of it, but also for the Chlark scenes, plus Chloe remembering Clark's secret

I was a die hard Chlarker for about 6 1/2 seasons. I even subscribed to the Chlois theory for awhile because Chloe was more likeable then Lois to me and it would have been great for Clark to end up with the woman he always ignored romantically. Plus a great tie in to the Fever letter. However, as soon as Lois gained more noteriety at the DP, and Chloe moved out of journalism, and into a marriage with Jimmy Olsen, it just wasn't a possibility anymore. There is no way in hell Lois Lane would turn out to be Jimmy Olsen's ex.

I didn't start liking Clois on Smallville until this season. I do think however, if the writers were going to push Clois so hard this season and have them almost kiss in Bride, they have no business trying to re-ignite Clana. Especially with so few episodes to work with. It just makes no sense.

[DontCha]

hell no, he will give Lois the bracelet meaning he sees her as his true one. Not a rebound, if he saw Lana as his true one he'd give the bracelet to her even if she left his life.

[marcella]

I don't think she will his rebound

[Tinyeppy]

I would love to see the day they tie in the bracelet from S2 for lois. If not the jewel itself but the shape of the jewel. I mean if TBTB are all about "soulmate" business then we all know who Clark choses.

I don't care about Clana. I'm sick of be subjected to something that no longer means anything postive for me. I don't know why TPTB keep show it when we probably have just 1/2 of this season & hopefully next season to explore Clois the
appropriate way & not some 2nd fiddle rebound over Lana.

I stopped watching after s6 and I started again on S8 but I think I'm gonna have to wait until March b/c I just can't take anymore of character Lana Lang (I like KK).

Clark is confused. He thinks he loves Lana b/c he always have & Lois is something new to him & he doesn't understand what is going on with the bond he feels for Lois. For me he's going to what's more comfortable from him right now Lana Lang. I think Lana is the rebound in these episode and he better realize it or bye bye with Smallville for me.

OVER CLANA, BRING ON CLOIS

[zorasuperman]

gosh i hope lois is not a rebound
if that happens well i wont be a happy camper thats for sure

[melissan02]

Lois Lane ain't nobody's rebound!!!!

Clark said himself in "Instinct" ..."what if my soulmate comes along and I'm too blind to see it?".....if Lana were his soulmate, and he truly believed that, he wouldn't have made such a statement!

Lois Lane has NEVER been the rebound for 70 years, so TPTB won't make it so for SV, trust me,--- they know they'd have comic/mythology afficionados up in their faces if they completely changed that
iconic, legendary part of the story.:D;)

It'll all work out!;)

[Mickey_Bickey]

I agree! She's not going to be the rebound. They'd hault Clois before doing that! I'm sure that even the actors themselves would step up and have input if they tried to do something underhanded like that!

Lois Lane doesn't play second fiddle to anyone!

[LoveHurts38]

When Lois returns she will not give him the time of day she does not want to get hurt anymore.

[Tatiana]

I don't think she will be his rebound, now if they don't give a proper ending to Clana from Clark's side, then she would be a rebound, that's why I think as painful as it is for some of us, we need to see the whole lana clark situation if we want a good quality Lois and Clark

[Hopefulsuicide]

It's not so much rebound, but after seeing that kiss and knowing that of course it's going to be Lana who up and leaves again, cause let's face it, Clark is pathetic... well it immediately made me think 'if i were Lois i wouldn't go anywhere near Clark after this.'

No one wants to be someone's second choice. No one wants to be constantly afraid that if the other girl changed their mind, they'd be dropped in a heart beat, That every time Lana showed up, Clark might change his mind or try and kiss her. To find pictures of Lana hidden in a desk drawer, to find him saying Lana in his sleep, to have him accidentally calling her Lana...

God i just feel so sorry for Lois... i hope someone wacks Clark on the head with a kryptonite sledgehammer then maybe he will wake up

[Ellsbury]

^^ Why, this totally makes sense! That's why it has no chance of happening! :lol:

Because you wouldn't be in Clanaville anymore... argh, these writers suck !

[LovelyLoisLane]

Clois is far from over. I re-watched the last scene, and after Clark and Lana broke a part, Clark was confused and unsure...like something was wrong. The music even ended on an unsure note. I thought it was quite tasteful of the writers.

That's exactly what I thought and the fact that the scene ended on them pulling away and both looking sort of perplexed, is telling to me.

What it is telling I'm not sure, but everything isn't all roses and sunshine in Clana land, that's for sure and I'm really interested as to what happens in the following episode with yet another kiss.

I also thought it was tasteful and clever of the writers to put that in there at the end and I'm glad I caught it. I know everyone, well a lot of people anyway, were up in arms about that kiss, either in a good or bad way, but I think the writers might actually know what they are doing and they won't mess up the story.

Clark and Lana went into the kiss with more affection then they ended it with, I think and at this point I think BOTH of them are in the same place that I am. Wondering what happens next.

But certainly if Clana was going to go into full throttle it just doesn't make much sense to have Clark look at Lois in the episode soon after Lana's last, with a very open regard for Lois in his eyes that makes Chloe realise how hard Clark has fallen for Lois. Now maybe that spoiler won't happen, so I'll have to wait, but if that does happen than it negates Lois being a rebound and it kinda would make Clark look bad for being in love with Lana and Lois at around the same time. I know that can happen, but it never makes the person with two love interests look very good.

Even if I don't blame Clark for his confusion right now, I do expect him to figure it out before he starts anything up with Lois, and I expect Lois to make it difficult for him when she gets back. She would never be anyone's rebound, and I think even fans that don't like SVLois can agree that she thinks more highly of herself than that and if she thought that was the case, she'd drop Clark at the curb.

[geminis]

I'm going to say a vehement nay to Lois as Clark's rebound.

Lana is the one who keeps dumping Clark, most recently via the video. Certainly he is attracted to Lois, but they don't have a relationship yet. He is clinging on to the (faint) hope that Lana is the one for him because he doesn't want to be alone. He doesn't like to give up on things, so it's hard for him to accept the end of his relationship with Lana as easy. Talking with Chloe about his relationship with Lana sounded more like regret than love and the way he talked about Lois, no wonder Chloe had her comment about not hurting Lois. Because if you look, he's obvious.

As you said, Valerie, Lois would also never allow herself to be a rebound. She values love too highly, which is exactly why she stepped back in Bride. Work has become a genuine passion for her and she was always going to wait for her soul mate.

[carm]

Lois should not be the rebound girl, she is THE one, but with Smallville she is always going to end up looking like second best.

[Becc]

Lois should not be the rebound girl, she is THE one, but with Smallville she is always going to end up looking like second best.
Exactly why I don't agree or ship clois on Smallville. I was just rewatching S6 and the start of lollie, and their relationship just made me smile. In comparison whenever I see clois I can't help thinking it's only because Lana isn't around. IMO if they were going to go so far with clana on this series then they shouldn't have started anything with clois- they can't do justice to the relationship.

[supes0]

That's exactly what I thought and the fact that the scene ended on them pulling away and both looking sort of perplexed, is telling to me.

What it is telling I'm not sure, but everything isn't all roses and sunshine in Clana land, that's for sure and I'm really interested as to what happens in the following episode with yet another kiss.

I also thought it was tasteful and clever of the writers to put that in there at the end and I'm glad I caught it. I know everyone, well a lot of people anyway, were up in arms about that kiss, either in a good or bad way, but I think the writers might actually know what they are doing and they won't mess up the story.

I agree with everything you said. We all know how the story ends, but the characters don't. Clark is finding his way, he's flushed with optimism because he's realizing it doesn't have to be 'all or nothing'. That perhaps he can find balance and share his life with somebody and still be a hero. This is huge.

the next kiss looks to take place on the roof of the Planet. He's dressed in his adult clothing. I'm interested to see how that kiss goes and the conversation which precedes and follows it.

[Sweetie]

Noway!Lana is still keeping secrets from Clark...yeah,we are back in truth,secrets & lies again?Don't you see that between those 2 lovebirds are always been major trust issues???That always have been the big problem in their relationship.First,it was CK and now it's Lana who is hiding things from CK...I don't think he'll be too happy to learn that she still don't have enough faith in him to tell him what is really going on.Where has she been all this time?What has she been doing?This will put the last nail into Clana's coffin.It will be over for good.

Don't be so sure that when Lois's return she will jump so easilly into CK's arms.She will be too busy investigating the red & blue blur???The iconic love's triangle will begin...Superclois.