AlMiles, is that you?

[theotherJane]

This episode has AlMiles written all over it. The last 5 min.... I couldn't believe what I was seeing. ::shakes head in disappointment::

[jimmyolsenblues]

This episode has AlMiles written all over it. The last 5 min.... I couldn't believe what I was seeing. ::shakes head in disappointment::

i agree...those last few minutes were a step back not forward...

[biggkoz]

Clark doesnt need any romance in his life. He needs to keep looking ahead.

[Timester]

If it was written by AlMiles, the episode would have been "All... About... Lana...". Which was not, not even close.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I literally spit out by ginger ale when I saw the kissing seen...really was it necessary to have them lip lock! the episode was going fine with out all the dreamy eyes. Good thing is that i know its not gonna last.

[thehenry89]

If it was written by AlMiles, the episode would have been "All... About... Lana...". Which was not, not even close.

close enough. the last 5 mins were like a slap in the face.

[Deana]

Tess semi-worshiping Lana and putting her on the same level as Lex. :rotfl:

I wonder did Saturn Girl manipulate Tess's mind to worship her idol. :lol:

My god, will the characters we were introduced to at the beginning of Season 8 please stand up. To change things so much to accommodate one character is just ludicrous.

[myankskent]

The last five minutes were bad, but the rest was great. Maybe some of the best stuff we've had all season and since I don't see Clark giving up on saving people anytime soon or walking away from his DP job, the ending doesn't really mean a whole lot to me.

[origin]

The last five minutes were bad, but the rest was great. Maybe some of the best stuff we've had all season and since I don't see Clark giving up on saving people anytime soon or walking away from his DP job, the ending doesn't really mean a whole lot to me.


ITA

[Timester]

The last five minutes were bad, but the rest was great. Maybe some of the best stuff we've had all season and since I don't see Clark giving up on saving people anytime soon or walking away from his DP job, the ending doesn't really mean a whole lot to me.

Me neither. And I see it as the last attempt of the "lack of love" relationship. Clark ignoring Lois was so Lois-like, of what we saw this season. Maxima just came to my mind.

[ClarkyBoy14]

The last five minutes were bad, but the rest was great. Maybe some of the best stuff we've had all season and since I don't see Clark giving up on saving people anytime soon or walking away from his DP job, the ending doesn't really mean a whole lot to me.

That's true. The ending was bad, but it doesn't take away from the greatness of the rest of the episode.

[Kid Collins]

I thougth the last five minutes made this episode worth it! I correct that. The last Clana scene made this episode worth it! :D

[Liquid-Prince]

Oh god, just stop. Every time there is a Clana scene, people snap... There is nothing wrong with Clana, and from the beginning this show was just as much about Clana as it was about Superman. Get over it...

[thehenry89]

I need to rinse my eyeballs...

this is just too much, wtf is clark thinking. the world does not revolve around lana freakin lang. He's willing to give up everything he accomplished all year just for another shot at the worst relationship I've ever seen in my life.

[myankskent]

That's true. The ending was bad, but it doesn't take away from the greatness of the rest of the episode.


Yeah, and let's face it, this episode did not have a lot of Clana in it. Two scenes that probably added up to about 4 minutes. Clearly, the A plot was about Clark going undercover and I thought that is what this episode should be about.

[skylar]

My head stills hurts from this. I need a glass of wine.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yeah, and let's face it, this episode did not have a lot of Clana in it. Two scenes that probably added up to about 4 minutes. Clearly, the A plot was about Clark going undercover and I thought that is what this episode should be about.

That's right. It had a lot of good Clark too. I really liked his scenes with Danny, especially the one in the car and their last one.

Lana also had something interesting to do in this one. :)

[theotherJane]

If it was written by AlMiles, the episode would have been "All... About... Lana...". Which was not, not even close.

Even though the last 5 minutes were only a small portion of the whole episode, it pretty much overshadowed and regressed the first half of the season for me.

Clark keeps (YET AGAIN) looking for a false hope of security and comfort, which Lana provides, and I thought we were way past that point. At least that's the feeling I got after watching the first half of this season. He's running away from himself and his own progress! This reminds me of season 7, when he nonchalantly hung the cape over the fence and followed Lana like a puppy into the house.

I think Lana said it best: "We're not 14 anymore."

[Liquid-Prince]

Even though the last 5 minutes were only a small portion of the whole episode, it pretty much overshadowed and regressed the first half of the season for me.

Clark keeps (YET AGAIN) looking for a false hope of security and comfort, which Lana provides, and I thought we were way past that point. At least that's the feeling I got after watching the first half of this season. He's running away from himself and his own progress! This reminds me of season 7, when he nonchalantly hung the cape over the fence and followed Lana like a puppy into the house.

I think Lana said it best: "We're not 14 anymore."

Getting over someone is not progress. At least not in the Clana situation. You all need to have a pill of some sort. Perhaps of the chill variety.

[Lilah]

I almost lost my dinner the moment Clark stepped into the Talon... Seriously, I was so stoked the whole episode, until it ended.... Now I don't wish to have it on my ipod... =[ Why did Lana have to come back for five freaking episodes?????


I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE Chloe standing up for Lois, in her absence, though!!!! I felt the love there!!

[Vergon6]

The ending made no sense. I think Clark is really confused. He's trying really hard to hold onto something that's not there anymore. Hopefully Lana will make him realize that he is missing out on his life or selling himself short by holding onto the past, pretending like they are 14 again. Nostalgia is getting the best of Clark right now.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Oh god, just stop. Every time there is a Clana scene, people snap... There is nothing wrong with Clana, and from the beginning this show was just as much about Clana as it was about Superman. Get over it...

Its not that we have a vengeance against Clana. It just puts Clark in a position where all he cares about is Lana Lana and did I mention Lana...There is no progression in the character. At the same time Lana is also put in a position where her character revolves around Clark and stagnation occurs...The yo-yo relationship of Clana just doesn't bounce with many fans! :)

[green_arrow_girl358]

it wasn't just the clana scenes that were bad, ANY scene with lana in it made eyes roll. we're trying to move forward, more lana-fu is taking us back. however if we saw a bit more lex.....

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

it wasn't just the clana scenes that were bad, ANY scene with lana in it made eyes roll. we're trying to move forward, more lana-fu is taking us back. however if we saw a bit more lex.....

I don't mind some sexy lexy...but thats up to Michael Rosenbaum...lets not tempt fate ;)

[thehenry89]

Clarks a 14 year old idiot trapped in a 22 year old idiot's body. If he doesn't understand how toxic his relationship with lana is by now, he will never know. And as far as I'm concerned when lois does come back, he better work his flannel clad arse off to prove that she is not just his second choice.

[kg1507]

it wasn't just the clana scenes that were bad, ANY scene with lana in it made eyes roll. we're trying to move forward, more lana-fu is taking us back. however if we saw a bit more lex.....

Seriously, I miss what Lex contributed to the show, even though he is the ultimate bad-guy. We need to know where he's been!!!!

And yes, I agree that this episode had Al&Miles stamped all over it. And this season was going so well... :( better luck next week.

[paolinki25]

:lol: It did have an AlMiles feeling, didn't it?

God, that fight with Tess/Lana was ridiculous. They have shown Tess to be the closest to Mercy Graves, and believe me, Mercy Graves would had destroyed Lana with just a look.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Clarks a 14 year old idiot trapped in a 22 year old idiot's body. If he doesn't understand how toxic his relationship with lana is by now, he will never know. And as far as I'm concerned when lois does come back, he better work his flannel clad arse off to prove that she is not just his second choice.


:rotfl:

[theotherJane]

Getting over someone is not progress.

I'm sorry, what?

Getting over someone is progress. Let me ask you this. After a break up, do you still have the same attitudes and feelings towards relationships? My guess is no. If anything should change it's your knowledge about relationships and that to me represents progress.

[thehenry89]

I'm sorry, what?

Getting over someone is progress. Let me ask you this. After a break up, do you still have the same attitudes and feelings towards relationships? My guess is no. If anything should change it's your knowledge about relationships and that to me represents progress.

exactly! clark and lana keep trying at this relationship, and they always end up doing the same thing over and over and over again. I belive Faith from BTVS said it best "...isn't that the definition of insanity"

[Liquid-Prince]

I'm sorry, what?

Getting over someone is progress. Let me ask you this. After a break up, do you still have the same attitudes and feelings towards relationships? My guess is no. If anything should change it's your knowledge about relationships and that to me represents progress.

No. Because you don't want him to get over her for his own sake. You just want a full blown Clark Lois relationship, which is why there is so much lashing out everytime there is a Clana scene. The thing is, the show has been about Clana just as much as it has been about Superman. Lois wasn't even supposed to be in Smallville, so now that we do have her as a bonus, people should really just chill.

Besides that, I see nothing wrong with the Clana relationship. It would make a lot less sense if Clark finally just broke up with the girl he's loved since forever. It's like Spider-man not getting his Mary Jane. At least, that's how it is on Smallville, and I don't mind it.

[paolinki25]

I'm sorry, what?

Getting over someone is progress. Let me ask you this. After a break up, do you still have the same attitudes and feelings towards relationships? My guess is no. If anything should change it's your knowledge about relationships and that to me represents progress.

Of course. This is what grown ups do. They don't live stuck in "first love foreva! world".

And I'm sorry, who the hell is talking about a "full blown Clois"? I don't want that. I just want the main character of this show to stop acting like a love sick puppy and grow the hell up, emotionally and mentally. It's been 8 years, and it's just NOT excusable anymore.

[thehenry89]

No. Because you don't want him to get over her for his own sake. You just want a full blown Clark Lois relationship, which is why there is so much lashing out everytime there is a Clana scene. The thing is, the show has been about Clana just as much as it has been about Superman. Lois wasn't even supposed to be in Smallville, so now that we do have her as a bonus, people should really just chill.

Besides that, I see nothing wrong with the Clana relationship. It would make a lot less sense if Clark finally just broke up with the girl he's loved since forever. It's like Spider-man not getting his Mary Jane. At least, that's how it is on Smallville, and I don't mind it.

First: I have been against this clana yo yo since season two, waaaaay before lois ever showed up. I recognized then that the relationship clark and lana wanted was nothing but the imature pinings of two people with too many horomones. It's unfair to charachterize everyone who's agains clana as crazed clois fans, because it's simply untrue.

Second: The spiderman mary jane analogy is flawed, because mary jane is to peter parker as Lois is to Clark. Lana is to clark what cookies are to cookie monster, an unhealthy obsession, that will rot whoever consumes it from the inside out.

[kg1507]

First: I have been against this clana yo yo since season two, waaaaay before lois ever showed up. I recognized then that the relationship clark and lana wanted was nothing but the imature pinings of two people with too many horomones. It's unfair to charachterize everyone who's agains clana as crazed clois fans, because it's simply untrue.

Second: The spiderman mary jane analogy is flawed, because mary jane is to peter parker as Lois is to Clark. Lana is to clark what cookies are to cookie monster, an unhealthy obsession, that will rot whoever consumes it from the inside out.

Nicely put. If I could give you a high-five, I so would :rotfl:

[theotherJane]

No. Because you don't want him to get over her for his own sake. You just want a full blown Clark Lois relationship, which is why there is so much lashing out everytime there is a Clana scene. The thing is, the show has been about Clana just as much as it has been about Superman. Lois wasn't even supposed to be in Smallville, so now that we do have her as a bonus, people should really just chill.

Besides that, I see nothing wrong with the Clana relationship. It would make a lot less sense if Clark finally just broke up with the girl he's loved since forever. It's like Spider-man not getting his Mary Jane. At least, that's how it is on Smallville, and I don't mind it.

Did I even mention the name Lois at all in this thread? So stop psycho-analyzing me, it's against the rules.

[jazzylg]

The new writers just dropped the ball at the end of the episode.It's Like your're about to score the winning shot, just to fumble and lose the game. I almost expected clark to hesitate, and tell lana that he cares for someone else(lois). I don't agree with the return to bitterly harse chlana angst. It's unbearable to watch, and a nosedive in the direction of soap opera fluff. Give me more legion type action and dialog. More clark getting sliced with atom cutting axxes. The new president needs to write an executive order banning chlana angst from smallville forever! :eek:

[nede]

i totally missed todays ep!...can anyone give me a summary of wat happened...im hearing all these interesting things....plz

[Vergon6]

I was fine with Clark and Lana together in Season Five, but now it is just become beyond ridiculous because they keep on bringing it back like a Merry-go-round.

And I think you'll find that only some people are rooting for a full-blown Lois and Clark relationship. Me, I guess I gravitate towards it a little because Clark is moving closer to his destiny, but I don't live or die by it. In fact, I'm in the process of writing a fanfic season with others where there is sometimes a Clois undertone, but it's not the main focus. In fact, we are going for more of Clark/Lois/Boy Scout (pre-Superman but in a costume) dynamic. Clark has a growing crush on Lois but Lois is infatuated with Boy Scout. We aren't going to have them get together at the end of our pseudo-Season 8.

[petitemimi]

No. Because you don't want him to get over her for his own sake.

Yes, I do. I'm not a shipper and I'm tired to see Clark' character being destroyed by that immature ship.

[Liquid-Prince]

Second: The spiderman mary jane analogy is flawed, because mary jane is to peter parker as Lois is to Clark. Lana is to clark what cookies are to cookie monster, an unhealthy obsession, that will rot whoever consumes it from the inside out.

The analogy isn't flawed. Lana equals girl next door, and Clark's first love. This is Smallville, and I would be much happier if Clark ended up with Lana rather then Lois. If only for one reason. I was talking to my friend recently and he said he doesn't like watching Smallville anymore. I asked him why and he replied that the show is too predictable, especially when Lois showed up. Before Lois, we didn't know what could happen, would they remake the story and possibly let Clark end up with Lana? Who knew? But now, it's obvious they're trying to head for Lois, and that means there is no mystery anymore.

People want a remake of the exact same story, not a complete re-imagining. I would have been happy if Clark ended up with Lana, but still kept the main themes of Superman, like Superman's love for the world, and human life and so on. Because, then the show would have branched out. There are stories in Spiderman where Peter end up with Gwen, however there has never been a story where Superman even dared to go with someone other then Lois. I dared to believe...

[xrayvision]

I think most of the episode was great, but like many others said, the last scene was definitely a step backwards. Why PS3.....why???

[Alania]

I think most of the episode was great, but like many others said, the last scene was definitely a step backwards. Why PS3.....why???


How is this Clark gonna go from this to "fallen hard for Lois", i haven't a clue!

[jazzylg]

My point exactly. This show shouldn't be about clark's love life. It's supposed to be about his growth into superman. So far, despite my love for the show, we haven't had a full season without this type of soap opera angst. Come on new showrunners, bounce back next episode! ;)

[thehenry89]

People want a remake of the exact same story, not a complete re-imagining. I would have been happy if Clark ended up with Lana, but still kept the main themes of Superman, like Superman's love for the world, and human life and so on. Because, then the show would have branched out. There are stories in Spiderman where Peter end up with Gwen, however there has never been a story where Superman even dared to go with someone other then Lois. I dared to believe...

there are several comic story lines where clark ends up with other female charachters even *Gasp* lana. The reason they aren't well known is because the overwhelming majority of people who read superman comics enjoy the clark lois relationship, or they read for reasons other then romance. The point is that Clark always ends up with lois for two reasons (copy right issues for one) and the many people who have enjoyed the story of superman for the last 70 years, and lois lanes importance in that story.

[Timester]

How is this Clark gonna go from this to "fallen hard for Lois", i haven't a clue!

Simple, he already has. He just doesn't know.

[MetroGirl06]

After that scene I just muttered "Damn it, Clark!" for a while. I mean, seriously! Here I thought we were seeing Clark finally progressing into the man of steel, saving people on the streets and what have you, then Lana comes back and suddenly the world is not as important? I feel like I was slapped in the face.

And Lana! You'd think she was trying to move on from Clark as well! Then she lets him get the idea in his head and get his hopes up! Wasn't she the one encouraging him to save the world and becoming the man she always knew he could be? I was actually starting to like her too.
(takes deep breaths) PS3, I know you're going to fix this, so I'm putting my trust in you guys right now. I have the comfort of knowing this won't last long, and hopefully after it, Clark will come out with some brain cells.

[Liquid-Prince]

there are several comic story lines where clark ends up with other female charachters even *Gasp* lana. The reason they aren't well known is because the overwhelming majority of people who read superman comics enjoy the clark lois relationship, or they read for reasons other then romance. The point is that Clark always ends up with lois for two reasons (copy right issues for one) and the many people who have enjoyed the story of superman for the last 70 years, and lois lanes importance in that story.

Exactly, in other words, the so called fans only want to see Lois and Clark continually... That's why I wanted Smallville to have him end up with Lana. A major show, known by many, changing the mythology is more daring then some comic book, that barely anyone will read...

[susangail]

If the clana kiss bothered you, watch the don't-mess-with-my-cousin scene with Chloe again. I took great solace from that.

When Clark kissed Lana, I shouted "NO! NO MORE CLANA!!" at the VCR. But it's a good question Clark asks himself. Just remember that he has only a few episodes to figure out that his person-to-do-it-for is not Lana.

[paolinki25]

Simple, he already has. He just don't know.

Well, that is true. Clark is slow when it comes to matters of the heart.

[biggkoz]

They couldve had lana say this is wrong or something afterwards.

[SnowBird]

I'm glad the last five minutes didn't bother me. Seriously, it seems by the posts in this thread that we need medical help for some...LOL...I hope everyone survives.

[blakexy1125]

i think they did that so when lana leaves clark finally realizes that they werent meant for eachother

[kal-el_Girl]

Tess semi-worshiping Lana and putting her on the same level as Lex. :rotfl:

I wonder did Saturn Girl manipulate Tess's mind to worship her idol. :lol:

My god, will the characters we were introduced to at the beginning of Season 8 please stand up. To change things so much to accommodate one character is just ludicrous.

exactly! It absolutely makes no sense

[BadToad]

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Seems PS3 can only write a decent show if certain characters are missing, and as soon as they come back? Its time to turn Clark into an emotional cripple. But I do thank them for allowing him to be heroic.

[Iluvgreen]

Well Clana was their thing but....... I'm sure the producers just did it to give them a closure.

[kentfamily]

Can someone tell me what PS3 stands for? because the only PS3 I know is Play Station 3

[cygnusx1]

i'll be glad when the lana arc is over. between last week with the self doubt and second guessing to this weeks i want to be normal and live on the farm with you i feel like they are cramming a seven year review into 4 episodes.

[highdro_pharmer]

I dug the scene. It's been a while and Kreukie and Welling make out well together. Just a pit stop on memory lane, nothin' more.

[Shadowlord367]

Can someone tell me what PS3 stands for? because the only PS3 I know is Play Station 3

PS3 is an abbreviated term for the team of four showrunners who have been in charge of Smallville since and Al and Miles departed after season even. Slavkin, Swimmer, Souders, Peterson are their last names. One "P," three "S's," hence "PS3." You'll occasionally hear them refered to as TPTB - which stands for The Powers That Be.

[RingzTerritory]

this episode pretty much made me not want to even bother with the rest of the season, if I didn't know lana was about to be done with in two more episodes(?? right?) I'd stop watching all together.

[Shadowlord367]

To be fair, I don't think you can expect Lana to just walk back into Clark's life, and have Clark feel totally at peace with a platonic friendship with her. She was his first love, and they endured a great deal together. And even when she left she made it clear that she did and always will love Clark.

So, I think that we should wait till the arc concludes itself before we make judgements on it.

After all, if you walked in halfway through surgery, it would look like murder.

[AgentChaos]

Clarks a 14 year old idiot trapped in a 22 year old idiot's body.

It's better than the immature 10-year old he turns into when he's around Lois. Both ships make Clark look bad.

[vikingjedi]

I still think Clark has to make the decision to become Superman, not Lana. I was like this with a girl I've known for awhile and it wasn't meant to be but we kept getting back together.

Clark has got to say I care about you Lana but the world needs me and then break it off.

[kszonew]

The last few minutes were a step back, but I would hardly say it's going to be a drastic step back in the long run. On top of it, too often people seem to forget that, in addition to what became recurring annoyances, Al and Miles also were behind such wonderful eps like "Memoria", "Descent" and "Shattered/Aslyum" during there time on the show.

Maybe those episodes weren't filled with DC guest stars and Lois and Clark flirting, but they were wonderfully told storylines that, for many, defined the series. The earlier part of this week's episode reminded me a lot more of that side of Smallville's past than the negative side that so many seem to think the majority of pre-season 8 is.

In the end, Clark's character development has been one of the only things that has kept me interested this season, and I highly doubt his fling with Lana will ruin that. Not even a Lana fan, but still I realize their story was left undone and now it's being wrapped for good.

Just my thoughts, not bashing anyone for there opinon so don't take it as such.

[Cyn]

The analogy isn't flawed. Lana equals girl next door, and Clark's first love. This is Smallville, and I would be much happier if Clark ended up with Lana rather then Lois. If only for one reason. I was talking to my friend recently and he said he doesn't like watching Smallville anymore. I asked him why and he replied that the show is too predictable, especially when Lois showed up. Before Lois, we didn't know what could happen, would they remake the story and possibly let Clark end up with Lana? Who knew? But now, it's obvious they're trying to head for Lois, and that means there is no mystery anymore.

People want a remake of the exact same story, not a complete re-imagining. I would have been happy if Clark ended up with Lana, but still kept the main themes of Superman, like Superman's love for the world, and human life and so on. Because, then the show would have branched out. There are stories in Spiderman where Peter end up with Gwen, however there has never been a story where Superman even dared to go with someone other then Lois. I dared to believe...


Okay, first off, your friend is kind of an idiot because the END has always been known. Clark & Lois ARE the Supercouple. Smallville has given depth to the Superman story, but it hasn't really altered its endgame. DC comics, WB/Etc. will see to that. It may take until the next century, but

[SmallvilleMan]

Oh brother......:rolleyes: Same people same complaints........."Oh Clark is still in love with lana, so he can't progress." Please........spare me. That's such a silly argument it's funny:lol: People still want Clark to see Lana like they see her. Instead he sees her in his way, which depending on some look at it, is more unbiased.........And i'm sorry, but trying to find happiness is NEVER a regression. Never is it wrong to have a hero looking for a reason.

[Kal-ed]

If it was written by AlMiles, the episode would have been "All... About... Lana...". Which was not, not even close.

No, not really, usually the episodes in the AlMiles era had Clark fighting the FOTW, saving Chloe or Lana or Pete and then a barn scene with Lana or Clark´s parents and Clark saying something that completely regressed him, so yeah, it is exactly like an AlMiles episode.

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The last few minutes were a step back, but I would hardly say it's going to be a drastic step back in the long run. On top of it, too often people seem to forget that, in addition to what became recurring annoyances, Al and Miles also were behind such wonderful eps like "Memoria", "Descent" and "Shattered/Aslyum" during there time on the show.

Maybe those episodes weren't filled with DC guest stars and Lois and Clark flirting, but they were wonderfully told storylines that, for many, defined the series. The earlier part of this week's episode reminded me a lot more of that side of Smallville's past than the negative side that so many seem to think the majority of pre-season 8 is.

In the end, Clark's character development has been one of the only things that has kept me interested this season, and I highly doubt his fling with Lana will ruin that. Not even a Lana fan, but still I realize their story was left undone and now it's being wrapped for good.

Just my thoughts, not bashing anyone for there opinon so don't take it as such.

I think the OP wasnt refering to the episodes written by AlMiles, they are talented writers IMO, it was refering to the AlMIles era and their endless obsession with Clana.

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Oh brother......:rolleyes: Same people same complaints........."Oh Clark is still in love with lana, so he can't progress." Please........spare me. That's such a silly argument it's funny:lol: People still want Clark to see Lana like they see her. Instead he sees her in his way, which depending on some look at it, is more unbiased.........And i'm sorry, but trying to find happiness is NEVER a regression. Never is it wrong to have a hero looking for a reason.

Ok first, I think calling peoples opinons silly is against the rules, secondly, your not even getting what people are talking about, try reading the posts again, no one is saying that clana getting together is a regression, sure most of us dont like Clana but its not a regresion, what is a regresion is Clark questioning, once again his future as a hero, just to be with Lana.

And there´s a diference between trying to find happynes and considering quiting the heroe bussines. In the comics Clark is happily married and is still earths greatest hero, so I they´r not mutually exclusive and Clark seemed to have understood that in the first part of this season, aparently as soon as Lana came back so did his doubts.

[CLanaF23]

I almost lost my dinner the moment Clark stepped into the Talon... Seriously, I was so stoked the whole episode, until it ended.... Now I don't wish to have it on my ipod... =[ Why did Lana have to come back for five freaking episodes?????


I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE Chloe standing up for Lois, in her absence, though!!!! I felt the love there!!



ok forget chloe. lois is no competition when Lana is back in the picture. her and chloe need to step off. chloe is such a lana blocker..like shutup.

and if AMiles had something to do with the Clana amazing-ness tonight. THANK YOU! its about time someone realized what smallville should have in it: CLANA <3

[Mr.Magic]

I think the OP wasnt refering to the episodes written by AlMiles, they are talented writers IMO, it was refering to the AlMIles era and their endless obsession with Clana.

Yes, very talented, if you like cheesy comedy.

Just watch Made Men, Shanghai Noon/Knights, Showtime, Herbie Fully Loaded and The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor. You'll see what I mean.

[FlashInSV]

The ending should have never been aired. There's a reason why PS3 is a relief after 7 years of Al-Miles. Do not make us regret it.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

The ending made no sense. I think Clark is really confused. He's trying really hard to hold onto something that's not there anymore. Hopefully Lana will make him realize that he is missing out on his life or selling himself short by holding onto the past, pretending like they are 14 again. Nostalgia is getting the best of Clark right now.


Agreed. Except I want Clark to realize this on his own:)

[vyperman7]

Oh brother......:rolleyes: Same people same complaints........."Oh Clark is still in love with lana, so he can't progress." Please........spare me. That's such a silly argument it's funny:lol: People still want Clark to see Lana like they see her. Instead he sees her in his way, which depending on some look at it, is more unbiased.........And i'm sorry, but trying to find happiness is NEVER a regression. Never is it wrong to have a hero looking for a reason.

This isn't a normal person we are talking about though. It is the guy who is supposed to become Superman. Superman would NEVER put his own needs ahead of the entire world. That is what makes him the hero that he is. This season, by creating the "Red Blue Blur" the writers finally seemed like they were taking a step in the right direction by trying to build Clark up as more of a hero who helps people on a grander scale, instead of just those closest to him. Then in the blink of an eye with Lana, he is willing to put that on the back burner. When he says "What if the world didn't have to come first" it is a regression. First and foremost, Clark is supposed to be going towards Superman.

If this was S1 or S2, it would be easy to say " Clark is still a kid and needs time to grow up". However, we are in S8 now, and Clark is going to be 24. People want to believe more than anything that this version of Clark could be Superman one day. But when he is still willing to put his relationship with Lana, ahead of the world, it is very dissapointing.

[Kyogre]

Yes deal with it!

[Timester]

No, not really, usually the episodes in the AlMiles era had Clark fighting the FOTW, saving Chloe or Lana or Pete and then a barn scene with Lana or Clark´s parents and Clark saying something that completely regressed him, so yeah, it is exactly like an AlMiles episode.

Do you really know what an AlMiles episode is? It isn't just those they they wrote, it's ALL 7 years of Smallville.

And, not, Clark did not regressed. If anything, he just supported his convictions. He saw that in Turpin that maybe, he doesn't need to choose between his life and the world AT ALL.

[ColdPlay3r]

last 5 min? i regret watchin it

[Alania]

last 5 min? i regret watchin it


Dude, it was so painful!! Don't know why i got the idea of grabbing a snack during the last half-hour, it was so not the right time to eat food!

[ColdPlay3r]

lol i finished my snack b4 the scene, i hold it in a bucket for all to see

[optinox]

I can't believe PS3 is allowing clark to get caught up in lana again, this is ridiculous. They talked about how they know what the fans want, and they have a different direction of the story with there own ideas, and then we get a replay of Al/Miles and the lana/clark triangle.

Like seriously, if season 8 was the last, then clark turning into superman is gonna be a miracle. In the begining of season 8 Jor-El said clark had matured and was ready to move forward, its more like clark hasn't even began...he did barely any training before having to stop and save chloe from freezing to death in the fortress, and hasn't commenced since then. Season 7 clark should've been more proactive, and over lana, with season 8 allowing him to focus more on his destiny, communicating with Jor-El alot more, like father/son relationship. This to me was just a filler episode, and clark hasn't really significantly progressed in the last 2 or 3 seasons years to become closer like superman, also the fact like i pointed out in another thread they used clips in the trailer that weren't in the episode (clark dropping to his knees in the barn with lana), and still G.A has to encourage clark to help, and be proactive, i really thought PS3 knew Al/Miles treated clark as a BDA and they're doing the same thing.

One thing i did hear, and it's probably nothing but 'may' be a possible foreshadow. When clark was in the car with Danny on patrol, Danny said "Cops have rules, CAPES don't". Could it be taken as a hint as, there is no cape rule, and possibly we'll see clark dawning a red cape (not necessarily in the superman outfit, however a prototype) Maybe thats one of the endings PS3 has in mind, have clark finally accept everrything and team up with JLA, they design a suit similar but not a replica of superman suit (to avoid rights, ect), IF a JLA movie is coming out from WB or affiliated companies, then this could fit in nicely as a smooth transition, this probably won't happen. Or clark will lose everything or nearly die by DD, realize he messed up big time, Jor-El will save him, do a memory wipe, reset the events before they happened (so no-one that wasn't suppose to die doesn't, ect), clark then does his training with Jor-El, comes back years later as supes.

[Timester]

I can't believe PS3 is allowing clark to get caught up in lana again, this is ridiculous. They talked about how they know what the fans want, and they have a different direction of the story with there own ideas, and then we get a replay of Al/Miles and the lana/clark triangle.

Actually, PS3 did on purpose. They even joked with the triangle concept on the episode, when Chloe said "Clark/Lana triangle".

It's obvious what they are doing now, they are deconstructing Clana to end it once and for all.

[optinox]

Actually, PS3 did on purpose. They even joked with the triangle concept on the episode, when Chloe said "Clark/Lana triangle".

It's obvious what they are doing now, they are deconstructing Clana to end it once and for all.


Ya i caught onto that as well, the part where clark kisses lana is fine, heat of the moment, first real gf, ect...its easy to imagine how a kiss could happen. The problem i had was when clark moreless implied the world can wait, i think clark should understand by now what his purpose is, it just seems it goes back and forth, but he truly never fully accepts his destiny/purpose, this tug of war struggle worked well, in the 1-5 seasons, but i think from at least season 7, and possibly 6 on up to now, he should be more like Kal-El but compassionate, caring, clark kent.

[Timester]

Ya i caught onto that as well, the part where clark kisses lana is fine, heat of the moment, first real gf, ect...its easy to imagine how a kiss could happen. The problem i had was when clark moreless implied the world can wait, i think clark should understand by now what his purpose is, it just seems it goes back and forth, but he truly never fully accepts his destiny/purpose, this tug of war struggle worked well, in the 1-5 seasons, but i think from at least season 7, and possibly 6 on up to now, he should be more like Kal-El but compassionate, caring, clark kent.

He didn't implied the world could wait, quite the opposite. He just saw the example of Dan Turpin, where he can have a life and be a cop at the same time. That's what he meant.

[RedKRules]

While I was watching, I was saying ..... Hey Al/Miles it´s been while .. where have you guys been ?? :lol:

[luthorian]

Clark :mad:. We would need another 8 seasons with good and progressive writing to make that guy convincingly become a superman which obviously is never going to happen. They should never make only Clark focused episodes, this season is sad proof of that.

[optinox]

He didn't implied the world could wait, quite the opposite. He just saw the example of Dan Turpin, where he can have a life and be a cop at the same time. That's what he meant.

I'm talking about him getting caught up with lana again, i didn't say clark couldn't have a life and be super hero like. I think clark should be over lana by now, moved on, YES still have feelings for her, wanted to save her, but that spark should be gone, thats my point. It seems its lana that tends to tell clark the world needs him most, i think clark should've accepted that by now and realize him and lana just aren't suppose to be with eachother. I think season 8 should be more focused on clark being more like superman.

Also he says "in the last year i've sacraficed myself and everything i love for the greater good, what if the rest of the world didn't have to come first". That to me would indicate he's saying he could live a life first, and save the world 2nd. I understand he means he can live a life and save the world too, but the statement he made could be taken 2 different ways.

[RedKRules]

Clark :mad:. We would need another 8 seasons with good and progressive writing to make that guy convincingly become a superman which obviously is never going to happen. They should never make only Clark focused episodes, this season is sad proof of that.

True, but I know I wanna see a Shelby centered episode :D

[blackcelebration]

Clark :mad:. We would need another 8 seasons with good and progressive writing to make that guy convincingly become a superman which obviously is never going to happen. They should never make only Clark focused episodes, this season is sad proof of that.

Err this is a Superman show, right?

Anyway, hopefully by the second episode Clark will realise he feels nothing for Lana or... God damn they've written themselves into a pickle, haven't they?

I thought the silly sub plots were finished after the awful Chloe memory wipe plot but NO... the PS3 do another silly sub plot.

Still this like, Legion was a cool episode, I really liked the Dan Turpin character and Clark at least was being Superman like and going alone undercover was just cool...

BUT DO WE NEED MORE CLANA???

AFTER SEVEN YEARS DON'T THEY LEARN???!!!

:mad::D:eek:

P.S

I think there's alot of people suffering from a rare disease called MustKillLana. Cos I know I have for at least five years :lol::rotfl:

[Lilah]

The only thing that can save this episode for me, is if it picks up RIGHT where it left off at the kiss with Clark moving back and saying that he can't and that it isn't right... That's it! Orrrrrr.... if he wakes up the next day looking so guilty, that he'll have that face that looks like someone ran over Shelby... Other than that, the episode stays in the vault for me. I won't re-live through Clana again. I'm sorry, but one person can only take so much drama in there life.

I defend Smallville, because it isn't like typical soap operas like One Tree Hill and 90210 or Gossip Girl... but if they do this... then they're basically proving me wrong...

[luthorian]

Err this is a Superman show, right?


No. It's Smallville.

[candor]

This episode has AlMiles written all over it. The last 5 min.... I couldn't believe what I was seeing. ::shakes head in disappointment::
:rotfl::rotfl:

[ClarkyBoy14]

I really don't see how Clark has regressed--this is the same Clark that we have had in the first half of the season. Is Clark still working at the Daily Planet? Yes. Is Clark going out trying to find Doomsday? Yes. Is Clark going out saving people? Yes. That's what we have seen Clark doing in the first half of the season.

The writers have also made it clear from season's beginning that Clark is not over Lana. Who was the first person Clark saw when his life flashed before his eyes in the season premiere? Lana. Who's necklace did Clark stare at longingly in "Instinct"? Lana's. Who's pictures has Clark looked at throughout the season's first half? Lana's. Yes, Clark may have begun to fall for Lois, but he is clearly not over Lana yet, and her return to his life has brought his feelings for her back to the forefront. I would like for Clark to resolve all of his romantic feelings for Lana in her arc before he begins a new romantic relationship with Lois. She deserves better than for Clark to date her while he is still in love with someone else. YMMV.

Now for that final conversation between Clark and Lana. This is nothing new for Clark. Who's well-being did Clark put before the world's in "Bloodline"? Lois's. Who's well-being did Clark put before the world's in "Legion"? Chloe's. Now, we have Clark, not actually putting Lana's well-being before the world's, just expressing that it would be nice to be able to do that, and everybody goes crazy. Again, the bias against Lana is outstanding. :\

[Cogito17]

I really don't see how Clark has regressed--this is the same Clark that we have had in the first half of the season. Is Clark still working at the Daily Planet? Yes. Is Clark going out trying to find Doomsday? Yes. Is Clark going out saving people? Yes. That's what we have seen Clark doing in the first half of the season.

The writers have also made it clear from season's beginning that Clark is not over Lana. Who was the first person Clark saw when his life flashed before his eyes in the season premiere? Lana. Who's necklace did Clark stare at longingly in "Instinct"? Lana's. Who's pictures has Clark looked at throughout the season's first half? Lana's. Yes, Clark may have begun to fall for Lois, but he is clearly not over Lana yet, and her return to his life has brought his feelings for her back to the forefront. I would like for Clark to resolve all of his romantic feelings for Lana in her arc before he begins a new romantic relationship with Lois. She deserves better than for Clark to date her while he is still in love with someone else. YMMV.

Now for that final conversation between Clark and Lana. This is nothing new for Clark. Who's well-being did Clark put before the world's in "Bloodline"? Lois's. Who's well-being did Clark put before the world's in "Legion"? Chloe's. Now, we have Clark, not actually putting Lana's well-being before the world's, just expressing that it would be nice to be able to do that, and everybody goes crazy. Again, the bias against Lana is outstanding. :\

Well said, but I must warn, trying to have a fair conversation about Lana on these forums is as futile as Lex's attempts to grow a pony tail.

[Vindellavon]

It's them, I tell ya!

[RedKRules]

I knew it !!!! :lol:

[ClarkyBoy14]

Well said, but I must warn, trying to have a fair conversation about Lana on these forums is as futile as Lex's attempts to grow a pony tail.

:rotfl:

I know all about that. It seems like Lana can't do anything without people complaining about it. :lol:

[Kal-ed]

Do you really know what an AlMiles episode is? It isn't just those they they wrote, it's ALL 7 years of Smallville.
Actually for me an AlMIles episode is an episode written, produced and filmed during their era as showrunners, not just the ones they wrote.



And, not, Clark did not regressed. If anything, he just supported his convictions. He saw that in Turpin that maybe, he doesn't need to choose between his life and the world AT ALL.

Guess you missed the last 3 minutes of the show, where he told Lana "what if the world didnt need to come first" (Supes always puts the world first) and "what about what we need?" (could he have said it in a more selfish tone) and again as Im tired of saying, Clark wanting a normal life and doubting how to balance his life with his heroics is perfectly understandable and wouldnt be an issue had we not had a history, a bad history in that particular department through out the entire series, unfortunately that argument was used so many times to stretch the story that now it just seem old and a regression to something he alegedly, per his own words in the barn in Odyssey, had already understood, now that it actually makes sense, using it seems like a regresion.

[One-Winged-Angel]

Great episode, disappointing ending!

[FlashInSV]

I really don't see how Clark has regressed--this is the same Clark that we have had in the first half of the season. Is Clark still working at the Daily Planet? Yes. Is Clark going out trying to find Doomsday? Yes. Is Clark going out saving people? Yes. That's what we have seen Clark doing in the first half of the season.

The writers have also made it clear from season's beginning that Clark is not over Lana. Who was the first person Clark saw when his life flashed before his eyes in the season premiere? Lana. Who's necklace did Clark stare at longingly in "Instinct"? Lana's. Who's pictures has Clark looked at throughout the season's first half? Lana's. Yes, Clark may have begun to fall for Lois, but he is clearly not over Lana yet, and her return to his life has brought his feelings for her back to the forefront. I would like for Clark to resolve all of his romantic feelings for Lana in her arc before he begins a new romantic relationship with Lois. She deserves better than for Clark to date her while he is still in love with someone else. YMMV.

Now for that final conversation between Clark and Lana. This is nothing new for Clark. Who's well-being did Clark put before the world's in "Bloodline"? Lois's. Who's well-being did Clark put before the world's in "Legion"? Chloe's. Now, we have Clark, not actually putting Lana's well-being before the world's, just expressing that it would be nice to be able to do that, and everybody goes crazy. Again, the bias against Lana is outstanding. :\

Yeah...yeah...*looks sceptical* You know what, you got me convinced. You make a fair point. I suppose you're right. We are, some of us, pretty much prejudiced against Lana

[Clana Kent]

I don't get what you're so frustrated about :lol:
The last scene was 2 and a half minutes and the kiss looked awesome!
I'm sure everything about the Clana-relationship will be explained in the coming two eps, so don't worry Cloisers!

Man, could only hope Al/Miles were back :D They wrote very good episodes!

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No. It's Smallville.
Yep! And it's waaaaaay better :)

[Mickey_Bickey]

Actually, I saw promise for Clois in the ending.

The kiss was as stale and cold, more like a "let's feel this thing out" sort of kiss, and the camera angle was brilliant! No "zoom in" to show any love on their faces like they've done in the past, and no "zoom out" to suggest that they're kiss is so hot they need some privacy!

I saw a big question mark over both their heads. It's the beginning of the end.

[Bizarrolover]

Actually, I saw promise for Clois in the ending.

The kiss was as stale and cold, more like a "let's feel this thing out" sort of kiss, and the camera angle was brilliant! No "zoom in" to show any love on their faces like they've done in the past, and no "zoom out" to suggest that they're kiss is so hot they need some privacy!

I saw a big question mark over both their heads. It's the beginning of the end.

ITA! I've been saying the same things in different threads. It's not a coincidence that the kiss happened at the Talon. Clark found Lana in their comfort zone, making coffe at the Talon (I don't understand why she still has a kiss to that place), just like it was when they were younger. It reminded him of their happy times together. She tried to avoid the subject twice and reminded him that she was leaving once she was done with her business in town. But he insisted because right now Clark is so lonely that all he thinks about is of having his old girlfriend back. The kiss is not that important, what matters is what comes afterwards. Clark still has to learn Lana's secrets. The trust issue will come back again. I also see this kiss as the beginning of the end.

[Timester]

Guess you missed the last 3 minutes of the show, where he told Lana "what if the world didnt need to come first" (Supes always puts the world first) and "what about what we need?" (could he have said it in a more selfish tone) and again as Im tired of saying, Clark wanting a normal life and doubting how to balance his life with his heroics is perfectly understandable and wouldnt be an issue had we not had a history, a bad history in that particular department through out the entire series, unfortunately that argument was used so many times to stretch the story that now it just seem old and a regression to something he alegedly, per his own words in the barn in Odyssey, had already understood, now that it actually makes sense, using it seems like a regresion.

Then you missed "What if hasn't to be all or nothing?".

Clark NEVER talked about balance before, EVER. Not coming first doesn't mean automatically coming second, it means also coming AT THE SAME TIME.

[Kid Collins]

People were so full of praise for PS3 when they gave YOU WHAT YOU WANTED!

But once they don't.....their AlMiles!

What loyalty!! :lol:

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yeah...yeah...*looks sceptical* You know what, you got me convinced. You make a fair point. I suppose you're right. We are, some of us, pretty much prejudiced against Lana

:lol:

I can see why people don't like her, but I think sometimes it just goes a bit overboard IMO. Plus, I wanted to provide examples that Clark hasn't regressed. :)

[petitemimi]

People were so full of praise for PS3 when they gave YOU WHAT YOU WANTED!

But once they don't.....their AlMiles!

What loyalty!! :lol:

You do exactly the same when it comes to Clana.

[Mickey_Bickey]

ITA! I've been saying the same things in different threads. It's not a coincidence that the kiss happened at the Talon. Clark found Lana in their comfort zone, making coffe at the Talon (I don't understand why she still has a kiss to that place), just like it was when they were younger. It reminded him of their happy times together. She tried to avoid the subject twice and reminded him that she was leaving once she was done with her business in town. But he insisted because right now Clark is so lonely that all he thinks about is of having his old girlfriend back. The kiss is not that important, what matters is what comes afterwards. Clark still has to learn Lana's secrets. The trust issue will come back again. I also see this kiss as the beginning of the end.


Let's keep spreading the word! Too many people are worried right now about Clark never letting go of Lana, and I think it's just the opposite.

At first, I too thought why do they have to kiss? Now I'm glad they did, because it showed everyone that change is coming and fast!

I don't believe the writers would ever compromise Lois Lane in all this. They're fully aware how important her role is to Superman/Clark Kent, and I truly don't believe they would taint her character. It would be completely dishonorable, and in the wake of the spoilers we have after these episodes it confirms that they're putting closure on the Clana once and for all to open the doors up to Clois.

I believe we'll absolutely see by the end of this arc that Clark is okay with letting Lana go.

[petitemimi]

AFTER SEVEN YEARS DON'T THEY LEARN???!!!

Apparently not. Clana is boring, they lost tons of viewers because of it, viewers have been vocal about it for years but it's still coming back like a bad rash during allergy season.


There's alot of people suffering from a rare disease called MustKillLana. Cos I know I have for at least five years :lol::rotfl:

Not so rare, I'm afraid and it's spreading like plague.

[Kid Collins]

You do exactly the same when it comes to Clana.

You assume wrong.

I only started posting again here at Ksite after Lana came back.

I never complained about the forced Clois when this season started.

[Hopefulsuicide]

If you think the problem with Smallville is that it's become predictable, then i agree. But the most predictable aspect of the show IS CLANA!

As soon as she shows up, we KNOW Clark is going to mope and ask her why they can't be together. We KNOW he's probably going to end up kissing her or at least trying too. We KNOW that Lana is going to talk about herself too much and usually bring up his secret/destiny in every sentance.

I'd much rather see Clois, which is much more unpredictable. I mean seriously how can you think that a relationship that hasn't even happened yet is more predictable than one that has been repeating itself for 8 years now...

Lana is exactly like Mary Jane. But that is a MISTAKE the writers made over the series... because that's not what the character actually is, and because they knew they were going to push the series so it fit into the mythos, they knew that at some point Clana would have to end...

not only have they made Lana into a much bigger love interest than she ever should be, but they are now trying to make out that she is more important to superman's journey than anyone else on the show... which is BS!

[Jack-El49]

i agree...those last few minutes were a step back not forward...

It was so disappointing. Maybe the impression that is being given is that whenever Lana comes into his life, Clark quits his forward progression and either idles or goes in reverse.

If he comes to that conclusion and realizes it, then I think the arc was worth the effort. If someone has to point it out to him, I'll be greatly disappointed.

[Superman&Clana]

Why people think Clark regressed in this episode? He helped police, he was Superman- like... I just don't get it where did you see regression in this episode?? Because he kissed lana or what? That was after he helped people so he deserved that kiss.

[SmallvilleMan]

This isn't a normal person we are talking about though. It is the guy who is supposed to become Superman. Superman would NEVER put his own needs ahead of the entire world. That is what makes him the hero that he is. This season, by creating the "Red Blue Blur" the writers finally seemed like they were taking a step in the right direction by trying to build Clark up as more of a hero who helps people on a grander scale, instead of just those closest to him. Then in the blink of an eye with Lana, he is willing to put that on the back burner. When he says "What if the world didn't have to come first" it is a regression. First and foremost, Clark is supposed to be going towards Superman.


Was he raised as Superman or as a normal person? He was raised as a normal person and carries all the traits emotionally of one. And as has been mentioned many times before, Clark's true strength is in his emotions and his carrying of humans. He can't become Superman if he's always hurting and trying to find happiness. All his statement is saying is that he can be with her and help people. That was the point of his whole conversation with Danny. That he can help people and be with the ones he loves.

Regression isn't the pursuit of happiness. Regression is him saying "run away with me". It isn't him trying to convince her that they can be together and have him still save the world.

[kentfamily]

Through my interpretation of the show was based on being heroes, the policeman who had a wife and kid? Should he have put his enforcement duties ahead of his family? But its not going to stop him from doing his job out there.

Thats what CK was trying to tell Lana, that he wants love and family and he can also help the world.

It is not regression to me..he wants both!

Think about all those men and women out there protecting and saving, you the public. Firemen, doctors, law enforcement....I dont think they are regressing because they have families.....He can have both.

[kryptonaidxh]

I writte this trheat because I miss watching my favorite show and after "Bride", I haven´t watched any episode, because there´s nothing good to watch in Smallville this days.
Lois has gone for a while, and the show has have a terrible backward step to the old Clana drama.
turning on my TV in the warner channel for watching the same tearing drama and not the Superheroe story that I expected to see? No thanks!, see you until 15 episode when all gets back to the normalty.:p:)
anyone that share this opinion?

[Timester]

Clana drama? Where?

[Tompouce]

I don't agree with you. I know Lana disturbs many people lol but the story is good, Clark is becoming slowly the hero we all love even if he is still undecided about Lana and him.
You have to watch "bulletproof", he uses all his human values to make a guy come back from the wrong way. He is already A HERO:)

[velocity]

:confused:
Clark has been very proacive the last couple of episodes, just like earlier in the season.

[Tompouce]

Oups, I forgot the most important : watch him in "Legion", as I said since I have seen it, Clark was : MAGIC, STELLAR, DIVINE. I am still under the shock lol

[petitemimi]

We don´t want Clana anymore!, don´t you get it writters?!

*writers with hands on ears* "la-la-la-la-la la!" :lol:

[Dustmite]

I think there's several threads like this already dotted about the site.

[od25star]

*writers with hands on ears* "la-la-la-la-la la!" :lol:

:rotfl: that is so true!

[WickedJenn]

Threads merged.

[supes0]

So, I think that we should wait till the arc concludes itself before we make judgements on it.

After all, if you walked in halfway through surgery, it would look like murder.

:rotfl:

I love the analogy. And I agree. The arc isn't over yet.

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Guess you missed the last 3 minutes of the show, where he told Lana "what if the world didnt need to come first" (Supes always puts the world first) and "what about what we need?" (could he have said it in a more selfish tone)


I disagree. He puts Lois ahead of the world sometimes. In the Final Crisis she's dying and he has to sit by her bedside and keep her heart from stopping with his super powers. Meanwhile chaos is all around. But the JLA knows he is out of commission because his wife is on her deathbed. He's offered a way to save her (he's taken out of time, and promised a way to save Lois, he'll be returned to the exact moment he left). The story was told in Superman Beyond 1 & 2, The second/final issue came out a couple days ago

When he decided to marry Lois , he put the world on equal terms with his personal happiness. And, if Lois is in danger he'll go rushing to her. Rucka wrote an 2 part issue a few years ago where Lois was shot in a war zone. Clark rushed to the scene, but got there too late, the JLA had to mobilize to save her. The war ended because Superman flew in to the zone, so he affected events he wouldn't have otherwise done had it not been for Lois's injuries.

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I saw the "what if the world doesn't need to come first" in Bulletproof as an important moment for Clark. He's not saying it comes last either. He's not wishing to move back to the farm. This is the first time he's realized he doesn't have to sacrifice his personal life in order to help people. He can find a balance. He can have a family and still do what he needs to do.

And in the context of where he is emotionally, it made sense to me he would go to Lana. Turpin married his high school sweetheart, and Clark still believes himself to be in love with Lana. His conversation with Chloe made me think he's struggling with his emerging feelings for Lois and his history with Lana. He's almost asking Chloe for reassurance that people don't fall out of love just like that, right? But this is what I think is happening to him, and it's scary because he's built his life around her.

It's like the old fleetwood mac song Landslide sez:

"Well, I've been afraid of changing
cause I've built my life around you
But time makes you bolder
Children get older
I'm getting older too "

The kiss at the end was a romantic cliffhanger. They pulled apart and fade to black, no words of love, no taking it to the next level, just both of them staring at each other. What happens next? I'm actually looking forward to next week to find out. And I NEVER thought I would say that about clana!! :lol:

[Bizarrolover]

:rotfl:

The kiss at the end was a romantic cliffhanger. They pulled apart and fade to black, no words of love, no taking it to the next level, just both of them staring at each other. What happens next? I'm actually looking forward to next week to find out. And I NEVER thought I would say that about clana!! :lol:

ITA! Clark and Lana saying good bye to each other on their own terms (without threats, hypnotic necklaces or video letters) will be one of Smallville's biggest events, and a huge step forward in Clark's development. It's almost like watching him flying for the first time.

[DontCha]

rather obvious isnt it? its showing us that Lana's presence makes clark faulter in his progression and Lois pushes it forward.

Lana will leave and this will be the reason, because she turns him into a love sick lapdog instead of superman, he needs MATURE love.

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*to clana* a quote from Mayor Adam West family guy *covers eyes*:

"I cant see you now! I cant hear you now..la la la la la la la la la la... LA!"

[cksidekick]

rather obvious isnt it? its showing us that Lana's presence makes clark faulter in his progression and Lois pushes it forward.

Lana will leave and this will be the reason, because she turns him into a love sick lapdog instead of superman, he needs MATURE love.


i have stated before that one of the things that makes Clois so great is that they enable each other in a "possitive" way...i use quotations because Lois getting into trouble is only possitive for me the viewer...

the more Clarks saves Lois, the more bold she becomes and the more she finds herself in trouble...the more trouble she gets into, the more Clark has to step up and save the day...and it's all done without the angst...oh the dreaded angst...

[meteor]

they had me drinking the kool aid for the first 11 episodes and 55 minutes. i actually like Lana as a character, but why they felt compelled to bring the Clark-Lana drama back into the equation i have no idea. i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt though...maybe this is setting things up for when Lois comes back. all i know is they better not turn Lois into a consolation prize because enough is enough with Clana.

[Clois4eva89]

Lets just hope Clark comes back to his senses before Lois returns.