Finally...a connection established between Martian Manhunter & Oliver

[xrayvision]

We finally got a scene showing that Ollie & J'onn J'onzz know each other so that Martian Manhunter can be tied to the rest of Smallville's JLA.

[Timester]

It's long over due, since "Justice & Doom", we knew it.

[xrayvision]

I would think Justice & Doom would show a relationship between Ollie's parents & MM. I never followed it though. Is it still available somewhere to go back to?

[jimmyolsenblues]

i love that MM is a member of justice

[Timester]

I would think Justice & Doom would show a relationship between Ollie's parents & MM. I never followed it though. Is it still available somewhere to go back to?

J'onz was "Ezra", the one that gave all the clues to Justice League in J&D. We also see him on the Watchtower, a Swann satellite.

[kentfamily]

Im reading all the replies in this thread. I am a little lost, was all this happening on Smallville? Or is this in the comics? Or are you talking about the hospital scene with MM GA and Superman?

[Timester]

Im reading all the replies in this thread. I am a little lost, was all this happening on Smallville? Or is this in the comics? Or are you talking about the hospital scene with MM GA and Superman?

It's part of Smallville, but it was an online contest.

[Effect]

Im reading all the replies in this thread. I am a little lost, was all this happening on Smallville? Or is this in the comics? Or are you talking about the hospital scene with MM GA and Superman?

A few seasons ago there was a small contest done by one of the cell phone companies, it might have been Verizon or one of the others. It was also to help promote a new phone I think. You texted a code announced during the episode and you got to watch a small animation clip each week that was an installment of the Justice & Doom storyline that showed what the Justice League (with Chloe's help as Watchtower) was doing that season.

I think you could have won a car, the type Chloe was driving at that time, as well.

[kaam]

Much awaited mention by Oliver

[myankskent]

I loved that scene with MM, Clark and Oliver. It seemed like there was a quick cut away at the end of it. I wonder if there was more to it that they had to eliminate from the episode.

[Chlois Supporter]

J'onz was "Ezra", the one that gave all the clues to Justice League in J&D. We also see him on the Watchtower, a Swann satellite.

Its been awhile since I've watched the J&D stuff, but I'm pretty sure it was a Queen Satellite. Same one that was mentioned in Justice when Chloe and Clark tracked down Bart's cellphone calls to Queen Industries.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I loved that scene with MM, Clark and Oliver. It seemed like there was a quick cut away at the end of it. I wonder if there was more to it that they had to eliminate from the episode.

That end did seem kind of awkward, like there was more to it or something.

But regarding the topic, it is nice that Ollie and MM are now working together too. It would be cool if there was a future episode in which all three (Ollie, Clark and Jones) teamed up.

[Liquid-Prince]

That end did seem kind of awkward, like there was more to it or something.

But regarding the topic, it is nice that Ollie and MM are now working together too. It would be cool if there was a future episode in which all three (Ollie, Clark and Jones) teamed up.

You mean:

Clark
Oliver
Jonn
Bart
AC
Victor

Right?

[ClarkyBoy14]

You mean:

Clark
Oliver
Jonn
Bart
AC
Victor

Right?

That would be cool. I don't know if they could afford it though.

[Timester]

Its been awhile since I've watched the J&D stuff, but I'm pretty sure it was a Queen Satellite. Same one that was mentioned in Justice when Chloe and Clark tracked down Bart's cellphone calls to Queen Industries.

Why I have this picture of a bad CGI of the real form of MM inside a Swann satellite inside my head? :confused:

EDIT: Yep, it was a Swann satellite. I was right.

[Deana]

I great moment that I missed most of. My sister had changed the channel and I did not realize it until too late. ;_;

[Niad]

wait i thought victor was a member of teen titions

[jimmyolsenblues]

i really don't believe MM is never getting his powers back....MM is coming back is my belief

[minerva73]

I'm glad that this scene happened too. I guess it kind of fits for it to have happened at this point in the series even though it could've been accomplished in S7 if Ollie wasn't focused on training Dinah Lance and MM wasn't letting wraiths escape from Mars that he was supposedly taking care of.

[Chlois Supporter]

Why I have this picture of a bad CGI of the real form of MM inside a Swann satellite inside my head? :confused:

EDIT: Yep, it was a Swann satellite. I was right.

Ah okay. I guess i got it confused cause the JLA International satellite that was mentioned in Justice. It wouldn't have made much sense I guess to have him aboard a Queen sattelite though since they had no clue in those J&D stuff who they were working for till the end. But than it makes less sense since Swann was dead for three years at that point, and Virginia Swann had no knowledge of the JL and MM that we know of. Ah well, whatcha gonna do.


I'm glad that this scene happened too. I guess it kind of fits for it to have happened at this point in the series even though it could've been accomplished in S7 if Ollie wasn't focused on training Dinah Lance and MM wasn't letting wraiths escape from Mars that he was supposedly taking care of.

I don't think the MM let Bizarro escape. I think it was supposed to be implied that the eclipse caused by Zor-El in Blue is what allowed Bizarro to get out. That he was just stuck somewhere that was consistently exposed to sunlight, and that the timing of the eclipse is what gave him the strength to escape. They really didn't clarify that all to well though.

[Niad]

maybe swann knew it all along and didint tell them because he is super smart

[ClubXerxes]

Wasted and forced IMO...I simply cannot believe that we have skipped over the reactions of all of the human JLAers to A-L-I-E-N-S in their midst!!

They went through all of this nonsense about the Traveler and all of the families (Teagues, Queens, Swann and Luthors) that were awaiting him. Most of them die at the hands of the Luthors (including Ollie's parents), and we just simply gloss over the discovery of Clark being an alien??? From another PLANET?????

They then decide to do it AGAIN!! Of course, they are able to find a doctor who can operate on Martians - after all, their physiology is pretty much the same. Why couldn't Clark find J'onzz lying in a ditch and take him to Ollie directly to help him? I always thought J'onzz had to concentrate on keeping his human form - that's some concentration he must have - being unconscious and all...


Sorry - I was truly disappointed by this episode. I felt they shoe-horned too much into one hour and very little made any sense.

[Niad]

hes human now he cant change anymore so hes stuck like that intill he has his powers back

[Chlois Supporter]

Wasted and forced IMO...I simply cannot believe that we have skipped over the reactions of all of the human JLAers to A-L-I-E-N-S in their midst!!

They went through all of this nonsense about the Traveler and all of the families (Teagues, Queens, Swann and Luthors) that were awaiting him. Most of them die at the hands of the Luthors (including Ollie's parents), and we just simply gloss over the discovery of Clark being an alien??? From another PLANET?????

They then decide to do it AGAIN!! Of course, they are able to find a doctor who can operate on Martians - after all, their physiology is pretty much the same. Why couldn't Clark find J'onzz lying in a ditch and take him to Ollie directly to help him? I always thought J'onzz had to concentrate on keeping his human form - that's some concentration he must have - being unconscious and all...


Sorry - I was truly disappointed by this episode. I felt they shoe-horned too much into one hour and very little made any sense.

Sorry -- But uh, what are you on about now? J'onzz has no powers right now so thats why he didn't switch back to being a Martian, he can't switch back, his powers are gone because of what happened in the Season Premiere. The only thing they glossed over is that the JL knows that Clark and J'onzz are aliens. And considering that other than GA the other JLers have you know, Superpowers that aren't meteor induced, and none of them know how they got them, (except for Cyborg) it's no stretch to think they'd accept Clark and J'onzz. GA may have a tough time with it, but the rest probably don't because they to are so different. If they were all just ordinary people, than maybe, but they're superpowered, so really, why do we need to see their reactions to them being aliens, other than "Oh okay, so thats how you can do cool stuff like us."

As for the doctor, it was pretty much implied that it Was Emil Hamilton (Oliver said the doctor's name was Emil, and that he was on the JLA's payroll) thats while the doctor told the nurse no one else was allowed into the room while he was operating, to keep J'onzz anatomy a secret.

[xrayvision]

J'onz was "Ezra", the one that gave all the clues to Justice League in J&D. We also see him on the Watchtower, a Swann satellite.

So Ezra Small all along was MM? But I thought Ezra over a hundred years ago (like in the 1800's)?

[Niad]

chlois supporter wow you know your stuff im impresed ahaha

[Chlois Supporter]

So Ezra Small all along was MM? But I thought Ezra over a hundred years ago (like in the 1800's)?

No, MM, during his conversations with the JL in Justice and Doom, was going by the codename Ezra, in reference to the Ezra Small prophecies.

[AJL2137785]

You mean:

Clark
Oliver
Jonn
Bart
AC
Victor

Right?

Let's not forget Dinah & Kara.