Clana Revamped/Clark and Lana Discussion

[Clana4Life]

What did you all think of Clana in this episode?

[victory01]

I am pretty disgusted right now. Clark just confronted the fact that he knows Lois has feelings for him (talking to Chloe) and in the next breath confessed it feels like Lana never left...I REALLY hope Lois does not give him an easy time when she gets back. I'm starting to feel that he doesn't deserve her. If he is so sentimental about 7 years of endless Lana drama...then he deserves Lana... Lois deserves better.

[Carolina87]

I'm going to have to watch that scene several times!! but I'm really disappointed with Clark :(:(:(

[kentfamily]

Forget Clana!! LanaFu!!! I loved that fight scene with Tess!! I thought that was sooo great!!Glad Lois was not in it! Yea!!! No Clois in this episode!!!

[kentfamily]

Eventhough I am a Clana Fan.. I say... FORGET CLANA and more Lana-Fu!!!! Loved the scene with Tess... I want more Oliver Queen and Lana.

[thehenry89]

I like lana kicking arse and taking names, as far as clana goes though...meh.

[bmwhype]

good ending. the sole reason why i watch smallville

[Iluvgreen]

Bad bad bad bad ending.

[od25star]

I am pretty disgusted right now. Clark just confronted the fact that he knows Lois has feelings for him (talking to Chloe) and in the next breath confessed it feels like Lana never left...I REALLY hope Lois does not give him an easy time when she gets back. I'm starting to feel that he doesn't deserve her. If he is so sentimental about 7 years of endless Lana drama...then he deserves Lana... Lois deserves better.


ITA!!:(

[victory01]

I think I may throw up after that closing scene. I actually had hope for Clark at the beginning of Season 8. Now I'm not sure I even want to watch the next episode.

[kg1507]

I am so disappointed. How in the world is there going to be Clois after tonight's episode?

[jimmyolsenblues]

i wonder if the writers know how much we hate clana.....but there is good news in spoiler town....(please no one post spoilers in this thread ...thanks)

[davidbrenton]

I hate clark and his stupid final 3 minutes!!! Why wasn"t he going to lois!!!!!

[dru-zod2501]

to quote the OP "I am pretty disgusted right now" I honestly had Clark-like levels of faith that Lana's presence wasn't going to be a bad thing after all. Last week supported my hope, only to have it brought down harder than the Hinderburg, in the same smoldering, flaming heap. damn... there's no denying it anymore

Lana IS pink Kryptonite

[alienkinfolk]

i know i too threw a little...but she had a nice kick butt scene. It's just a little too late though.

[victory01]

I am so disappointed. How in the world is there going to be Clois after tonight's episode?

I so agree. Clois after tonight is just going to feel like Clark on the rebound. Lois doesn't deserve that.

[Alexander III]

They didn't LIPLOCK TIGHT like they used to.

[amberdawn]

Do it surprise you? Not me.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I loved it! The Clana kiss was well worth more than a seasons wait! :p

[minerva73]

I am so disappointed. How in the world is there going to be Clois after tonight's episode?

Because he'll realize that Lois is the person that he can come back to after making everyone else happy by saving them even before Lana leaves. He knows that what he and Lana have isn't permanent and if Lois comes back and is always there for him, then he'll know that Lois is the one for him. It won't just be a case of sloppy seconds or anything IMO.

[Timester]

Do it surprise you? Not me.

Me neither.

It's Smallville after all. SEVEN years of Clana.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I was a little mad at Clark, getting wrapped up on Lana again, even though I'm a huge Clana fan. He basically dissed Lois in this episode and it hurt just a little.

[Alexander III]

Especially when the farmboy said "wut about wut we need", I felt disgusted by that!!!

[kg1507]

I so agree. Clois after tonight is just going to feel like Clark on the rebound. Lois doesn't deserve that.

Hell no she dosen't. Ugh.

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Because he'll realize that Lois is the person that he can come back to after making everyone else happy by saving them even before Lana leaves. He knows that what he and Lana have isn't permanent and if Lois comes back and is always there for him, then he'll know that Lois is the one for him. It won't just be a case of sloppy seconds or anything IMO.

This gives me hope lol

[darkone]

Riiight. Clark has fallen hard for Lois. I can see that. :lol:

Usually I'm not that mean but dudes we didn't started it.

[dru-zod2501]

I am so disappointed. How in the world is there going to be Clois after tonight's episode?
god at this point I'd even take Clois over what we just saw

[davidbrenton]

This would have been the most SUPERMAN episode ever if they replaced Clana with Clois.

[paolinki25]

Like I've said before, this is the effect Lana Lang has over every men on planet Earth. As soon as she goes into a room, men fall on her feet and emotionally regress 5 years. Clark is no exception.

[darkone]

This would have been the most SUPERMAN episode ever if they replaced Clana with Clois.

LOL and doesn't that tell you something?

[Guidron]

I was really disappointed by Clarks actions at the end of the episode. I agree that as of right now, it doesn't feel like Clark deserves Lois.

[paolinki25]

I can't honestly believe people can celebrate a couple that manages to regress the people involved to 5 or 6 years. That's all that Clana are ever going to have. This silly, childish illusion of the perfect life, which it's basically a bubble gum world and well, a lie. It disgust me how the writers mess up the progress Clark has made for a only episodes Lana is gonna be. Not worth it at all.

[Deana]

This should not have surprised anyone. Smallville Lana and Clana is the top dog . . . period. If after eight seasons that has not been learned than it won't be.

I am trying to be cool about Lana's return, the Lana worship (it was Tess this episode. I wonder who will have the high honor next episode), and Clana but the location of that kiss just pisses me off so much. I just hope Lois has officially moved all of her stuff out of the Talon because if she hasn't . . . that scene at the end was an unnecessary jab.

[green_arrow_girl358]

well on the upside she's leaving in a few episode. maybe PS3 will decide on a funeral episode

[Kid Collins]

Can't agree more!

Last scene proves that. Seriously. :lol:

[FLyxNERD]

real good ending..clana kiss!!!! whooohooo

[LovelyLoisLane]

They didn't LIPLOCK TIGHT like they used to.

I also noticed at the end that Clark had a peculiar look on his face, like he was confused. At first I thought I imagined it but then I watched it again. It looked like he got into the kiss but then when they pulled away I expected a wistful expression but instead Clark looked . . . well perplexed.

What it means? I don't know, but it is interesting.

I didn't feel like the Clana was over powering, I just think Clark is going through that phase where he is seeing his relationship with Lana for what he thought it was and is wistfully looking back on that but I don't know, call me insane, but I think that is going to wear off.

It is like anyone that has ever been in a relationship they thought was really serious when they were young, and when you get older you see that ex again and you start to romanticize about the days of yore, but then you get hit in the face with a cold bucket of reality.

I'm sure he'll always love Lana, but I'm pretty sure he isn't IN love with Lana, just basing it on my own experiences.

[skylar]

I stabbed my eyes out with a hot pocker!!! Worst episode of the season.

[kentfamily]

A guy can love two women at the same time just like a woman can too. I guess CK just likes Lana a little more than Lois. When Lana dumps CK he will go to Lois, his second choice.
Nothing wrong with being stuck on someone that is still in love with him.
Loved the music they used for the last scene, I actually loved the last scene with Clana. CK wants that connection with Lana and she is still trying to push him away(she didnt have to say it in words) which she is still hiding something from him.

[LoveHurts38]

They didn't LIPLOCK TIGHT like they used to.

I noticed it too...but, still :rolleyes:

[Effect]

I think they are doing this to finally end it. Lets face it how Clana was handled in the past wasn't that good. I'd like to see the current writers and producers of the show tackle it and end it. They've done a great job this season so far. This is the only reason why I'm not to bent out of shape about them doing this at the moment.

[latingirl]

After the episode's end I just want one thing Lois backs and makes to clark living in the HELL. After that he MUST to chasing her like abandoned dog asking for Home....


Sorry!!!!! but I so disappointing with clark today, like man not like hero... As hero he was amazing

[jimmyolsenblues]

a guy really truly in my opinion can't love two women equally...he loves one and cheats...or gets scared of how much he loves one and sabotages everything........

(not that i have first hand knowledge or anything)

[Clana Kent]

good ending. the sole reason why i watch smallville
Ditto

I am so disappointed. How in the world is there going to be Clois after tonight's episode?
Then let it go :) Let Lois hook up with Oliver again :)

The only couples in SV that ever touched me were Lollie and Clana!

[skylar]

I was really disappointed by Clarks actions at the end of the episode. I agree that as of right now, it doesn't feel like Clark deserves Lois.

Not only does Clark deserves Lois, LOIS should smack the crap out him.

[minerva73]

I was a little mad at Clark, getting wrapped up on Lana again, even though I'm a huge Clana fan. He basically dissed Lois in this episode and it hurt just a little.

I wouldn't say that he Dissed her. She left him and practically rushed out just as fast as Lana did in Arctic.

Given what Danny said about his family, Clark would've given that same speech to Lois if she were around, but she left. Even though I know that Lois is worth the wait, Clark has just been sitting around saving people and only getting the satisfaction of knowing he saved people. Lana being around definitely brought those feelings that he had back up, but at the same time he knew that Lana was proud of him for being a hero (which is why she always gives that speech about the world needing him). But despite those feelings for Lana, I have a lot of faith that Clark will realize that he can never be truly happy with Lana in the end because they know that they messed up TOO many times before. YMMV.

[victory01]

Because he'll realize that Lois is the person that he can come back to after making everyone else happy by saving them even before Lana leaves. He knows that what he and Lana have isn't permanent and if Lois comes back and is always there for him, then he'll know that Lois is the one for him. It won't just be a case of sloppy seconds or anything IMO.

You actually think these writers can accomplish a Clark about-face in the 2 episodes Lana has left so that he puts Clana behind him? I am not sure I have that faith. Maybe Clana has burned me out. The only thing that makes sense now is Clark very SLOWLY falling in love with Lois. That would make a little sense.

[kg1507]

CK wants that connection with Lana and she is still trying to push him away(she didnt have to say it in words) which she is still hiding something from him.

Their relationship will always be about secrets and lies. Lois isn't going to take that sh*t, which will be so so good for Clark.

[Kid Collins]

They didn't LIPLOCK TIGHT like they used to.

It was a gentle kiss but it was full of feeling. It's not just about lust but love.

And Clark looked at Lana in that scene with more love and expression on his face than he's ever shown with Lois! Seriously.

[Kalista]

That was some kiss. The Clana fans must be ecstatic.;)

[Timester]

You actually think these writers can accomplish a Clark about-face in the 2 episodes Lana has left so that he puts Clana behind him? I am not sure I have that faith. Maybe Clana has burned me out. The only thing that makes sense now is Clark very SLOWLY falling in love with Lois. That would make a little sense.

It's actually very simple. He just needs to understand that he no longer loves Lana, but Lois. He thinks that he loves Lana, reason of the kiss tonight, but does he really love her? We have yet to see the aftermath of tonight.

The way Clark ignores Lois is something we saw already this year. Lois ignoring Clark. We know how that moved.

[paolinki25]

I'm sorry, but all this bs about Clark "being confused" is pure horse crap. Clark is NOT a kid anymore. Those years in which everything was forgiven, because, "hey, he's still a teenager" are long over. He's a grown up man and it's time for him to get his emotional act together and decide wtf he wants to do with his life. It's amazing to me that Lana has this emotional power over him and has the power also to confuse him emotionally. It's just a weak mind, and I don't want my future Superman with a weak, "I don't know what I want" attitude. It was cute back in season 2, now it's just freaking annoying

[FLyxNERD]

forget lois..lois dont deserve to be with clark

[Cali978]

We knew that something like this was going to happen but, just seeing it on screen made me feel kind of disappointed in Clark, hopefully this Clana stage passes, and fast!

[hellnback]

it's pretty obvious that lana will leave clark again when she realizes she's only holding him back simply by being back in smallville. maybe this time lana will have a proper send off instead of the lame video taped one she did in last season's finale. clark will eventually realize that lois is the right gal for him but she'll reject him. it's possible that they might have some kind of relationship on the show but the real deal doesn't happen unti clark becomes superman and we'll never get that on this show.

[celita]

well I don't need to watch next week I saw it on the last sceonds...that expression its worths in gold :D bring power

[FLyxNERD]

That was some kiss. The Clana fans must be ecstatic.;)

we sure are!!!:D

[amberdawn]

forget lois..lois dont deserve to be with clark

You got that backwards. It's Clark who doesn't deserve Lois.

[Liquid-Prince]

I wouldn't mind if Smallville changed the Mythology a bit and Clark ended up with Lana. Might have to do with the fact that I think Kristen is drop dead gorgeous though.

[Timester]

I'm sorry, but all this bs about Clark "being confused" is pure horse crap. Clark is NOT a kid anymore. Those years in which everything was forgiven, because, "hey, he's still a teenager" are long over. He's a grown up man and it's time for him to get his emotional act together and decide wtf he wants to do with his life. It's amazing to me that Lana has this emotional power over him and has the power also to confuse him emotionally. It's just a weak mind, and I don't want my future Superman with a weak, "I don't know what I want" attitude. It was cute back in season 2, now it's just freaking annoying

It's a TV show on the CW, what were you expecting?

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I wouldn't mind if Smallville changed the Mythology a bit and Clark ended up with Lana. Might have to do with the fact that I think Kristen is drop dead gorgeous though.

No. Just no.

I can tolerate this Clana arc because I know it's the END.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I know this is going to earn me a few arrows in my back, but I am seeing Clana for what it is, because I've been there (The Mary Sue deviousness? Not so much, but I have had a young/serious love and been confused by it) and I think the writers are doing a good job as well.

I started to feel nauesous when Clark started in again at the Talon and Lana needlessly said that the world needed him. Clark is Superman this season, he KNOWS the world needs him and the rest of this episode (the non-Clana parts) added to that persona of his, his perspective on a super-hero life and how that effects the world.

So I was disappointed to feel regression, until I realised what as going on and that look of his at the end . . . I think I know what they are doing. I don't want to say, I don't want to tick anyone off, but it isn't as bad as I feared.

Also? BIG yay for Chloe sticking up for Lois. I don't think Lois needs it, but it was nice.

I wasn't that thrilled with Tess saying how stunning Lana was, we have heard that enough. But once I got past that? Wasn't half bad. I hate Lana's hair, but I could even get past that too because the Clana wasn't overpowering.

I'm sure there are Clana fans out there hanging on to the hope, but you all know she will be gone and even if KK DOES get some episodes last season (assuming there IS a next season) you all have to know that the writers without AlMiles around are getting ready to end the romantic Clana. At least you'll get an end on a high note, that's something. Because I don't think they are going to trash it, even though some non-Clana fans would probably like that, but I think they are going to end it in a way that isn't so horrible.

[CLANABABY]

You got that backwards. It's Clark who doesn't deserve Lois.

You're totally right. Clark deserves SOOO much better.

[victory01]

I'm sorry, but all this bs about Clark "being confused" is pure horse crap. Clark is NOT a kid anymore. Those years in which everything was forgiven, because, "hey, he's still a teenager" are long over. He's a grown up man and it's time for him to get his emotional act together and decide wtf he wants to do with his life. It's amazing to me that Lana has this emotional power over him and has the power also to confuse him emotionally. It's just a weak mind, and I don't want my future Superman with a weak, "I don't know what I want" attitude. It was cute back in season 2, now it's just freaking annoying


Ha, a sentiment I wholeheartedly endorse.

[paolinki25]

it's pretty obvious that lana will leave clark again when she realizes she's only holding him back simply by being back in smallville.

See? But this is the part that annoys me the most. Why do it then? Why bring Lana with the sole purpose of leaving him feeling like crap after she decides to leave? She has done this sooooo many times, and I just hate what it does to Clark. What it does to Lana, I could care less. That character was destroyed long time ago, but bring her only for that? It's just bad, and it proves again why Lana always lacked essence. She is and will always be just the object of affection in this show. No matter how much Kung fu she learns, how shorter her hair, how "brave and awesome she's for saving the world", she will always be just the cute girl who messes up with guys' heads.

[Kid Collins]

Clark's not confused. HE IS IN LOVE WITH LANA.

It's not an infatuation and it's definitely NOT a lightswitch like the Clois love shoved in the viewers faces this season.

[Timester]

Clark's not confused. HE IS IN LOVE WITH LANA.

It's not an infatuation and it's definitely NOT a lightswitch like the Clois love shoved in the viewers faces this season.

No.

[Liquid-Prince]

No. Just no.

I can tolerate this Clana arc because I know it's the END.

Yes. Just, yes.

[Khyla]

...
And Clark looked at Lana in that scene with more love and expression on his face than he's ever shown with Lois! Seriously.

I'll have to agree to that!

Though my husband thought it was all about Clark looking to get laid. :lol:

[paolinki25]

Clark's not confused. HE IS IN LOVE WITH LANA.

It's not an infatuation and it's definitely NOT a lightswitch like the Clois love shoved in the viewers faces this season.

Sorry for the double post, but are you really, seriously saying it's not an infatuation? All that Clark (clearly shown since day 1) has had for Lana is exactly that. Unhealthy infatuation. It's the effect she caused on every men, even Lex freaking Luthor.

[Supsfan]

It's sad that they had to put that ending scene of Clark regressing again back to Lana(I could care less they show him pulling back at the end) in an otherwise great Episode. I personally found Lana not annoying this episode(unlike last week's Lana lovefest) and the Clark storyline good.

I would have given it 5 out ot 5 if the episode was 2 minutes shorter and ended with Clark and Dan Turpin, but the last scene knocks it down to a 4.5 out of 5

[Timester]

Yes. Just, yes.

You didn't got it. The end of Smallville is established by TPTB since day 1. I'm simply stating a fact.

Besides the lawsuits and firing that would happen the next day Smallville did that.

[jmf1977]

I think we need to be patient with where the Clana is going right now. Honestly, the only reason KK came back is to fulfill her contractual obligations, otherwise Lana would be gone for good. Since she came back I did expect TPTB to try and rekindle the old feelings between the two to an extent. I do think Clark and Lana need to come full circle and end their romantic relationship properly with both knowing a future together will not work. This way they can part ways as friends. I think Clark deserves the chance to try and see if it will work out only bc Lana left that video in Arctic. That is not proper closure and I can understand why Clark would be confused about his feelings since Lana's abrupt departure. Once all is out in the open, Clark can then move on with his heart and conscience free to finally find Lois.

BTW, talk about old habits dying hard...if Clark regressed with his feelings for Lana, how about his regression with having Chloe be his own personal search engine. I mean come on...LOL. Braniac's gone but it's good to know Chloe still knows how to hack into secure systems from the ISIS Foundation! God forbid Chloe move on and stay with her husband!

[amberdawn]

You're totally right. Clark deserves SOOO much better.

I think Lois is the one who deserves much better.

[myankskent]

Clark's not confused. HE IS IN LOVE WITH LANA.


I think that the jury is still out on that. There's no doubt in my mind that Clark will always love Lana, but what it comes down to for me is this...if he really wants to be with her and wants to make her a top priority, then there's no way in hell he is going to let her walk out of his life again. He'll go with her if necessary but he's not going to say goodbye to her if he wants her that much, IMO.

[kg1507]

See? But this is the part that annoys me the most. Why do it then? Why bring Lana with the sole purpose of leaving him feeling like crap after she decides to leave? She has done this sooooo many times, and I just hate what it does to Clark. What it does to Lana, I could care less. That character was destroyed long time ago, but bring her only for that? It's just bad, and it proves again why Lana always lacked essence. She is and will always be just the object of affection in this show. No matter how much Kung fu she learns, how shorter her hair, how "brave and awesome she's for saving the world", she will always be just the cute girl who messes up with guys' heads.

I think some good could come out of this. Maybe now Clark will realize just how bad Lana is for him, always breaking his heart. I definitely don't think there's going to be any Clois for a while. Clark needs to slowly fall for her once Lana leaves for good.

[celita]

Clark's not confused.

Oh yes he is:D

I need to go to youtube onece again


HE IS IN LOVE WITH LANA.

wow....defensive much? :D

[Supsfan]

Clark's not confused. HE IS IN LOVE WITH LANA.

It's not an infatuation and it's definitely NOT a lightswitch like the Clois love shoved in the viewers faces this season.

I would say more like Lust. The relationship they had has to be one of the most unhealthy relationships I ever seen, if Clark isn't holding secrets away from Lana, she is doing it to him.

As for stuff shoved down our faces, do we need every character to tell us how wonderful Lana is?(Irma last week and now Tess this week, although at least in her case it made sense)

[LovelyLoisLane]

It was a gentle kiss but it was full of feeling. It's not just about lust but love.

And Clark looked at Lana in that scene with more love and expression on his face than he's ever shown with Lois! Seriously.

It was a nice kiss, I agree, but I don't think you need to bring Lois into it. He's only kissed her in one episode and that was when they were both high on Red K.

He's had a number of kisses with Lana, some nice, some not so nice, but a lot more than any of the love interests on the show because she has been his main love interest. That right there makes it pretty needless to say 'nah nah nah nah, Clark kissed Lana again!" and stick your tongue out. I'm sure you don't want the Cloisers to rub your faces in the mud when Lana's gone, so maybe we shouldn't rub their faces in the mud because you are enjoying yourself at the moment. I know it is on both sides, I've seen it, so don't feel like I'm centering in on you. I'm just saying, enjoy what you have right now, like Clark said to Lana in so-many words, and don't worry about other ships until you have to.

At any rate, I like how they seem to be treating the relationship as adults. There is this romantic tinge of course but it doesn't feel like it is being shoved down your throat and the writers are being pretty ambiguous about what is going to happen, so that is also nice.

This kiss was a lot sweeter and nicer than some of those where they used to eat eachothers face off, lol, I know some people like that sort of thing, but as openly sexy as I am I just am not a big fan of sucking face in public, and even though Clana technically weren't in public, they were being watched by a few million viewers. I always feel skeevy watching heavy making out and/or sex on t.v, like I'm being a voyeur, especially when it is a pairing I'm not a big fan of. Guiltily I admit to somnetimes getting into that stuff, but a nicer gentler kiss I can handle a lot better.

[Kid Collins]

Sorry for the double post, but are you really, seriously saying it's not an infatuation? All that Clark (clearly shown since day 1) has had for Lana is exactly that. Unhealthy infatuation. It's the effect she caused on every men, even Lex freaking Luthor.

Yes, it's not infatuation. It's real love. That's my opinion and fortunately TPTB back me up on that. :lol:

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As for stuff shoved down our faces, do we need every character to tell us how wonderful Lana is?(Irma last week and now Tess this week, although at least in her case it made sense)


And do we really need Clois anvils shoved in our faces every week?

See, you don't mind those anvils, I friggin hate them!

So every viewer has likes and dislikes regarding the show. No one will ever be completely happy with this show. Can't we all get along? :lol:

[lana kent 04]

I can't honestly believe people can celebrate a couple that manages to regress the people involved to 5 or 6 years. That's all that Clana are ever going to have. This silly, childish illusion of the perfect life, which it's basically a bubble gum world and well, a lie. It disgust me how the writers mess up the progress Clark has made for a only episodes Lana is gonna be. Not worth it at all.

I think it's totally worth it. Haven't you ever had a first love? It's so hard to let go of, especially when they're alwys there. Lana and Clark are very much perfect for one another, and yes we know he ends up with Lois, but it is Lana that teaches Clark how to love and have a relationship in the future.

I don't think it's regession at all. I think it is two people so in love they try every possible way to make it work. And Lana is not holding him back. She encourages him to go out into the world and save it. This is the Lana we've all been waiting for. (not to mention her awesome kick butt scene!)

[hatie123]

Eventhough I am a Clana Fan.. I say... FORGET CLANA and more Lana-Fu!!!! Loved the scene with Tess... I want more Oliver Queen and Lana.


I agree! I like the strong Lana. You can tell she is in control now.:rotfl:

[Liquid-Prince]

I was cool with it. I'm a fan of all the relationships.

[Eeyore840]

Glad to see Clark growing up and taking a forward leap in this episode...*snore*

[Kcirtap41B]

BTW, talk about old habits dying hard...if Clark regressed with his feelings for Lana, how about his regression with having Chloe be his own personal search engine. I mean come on...LOL. Braniac's gone but it's good to know Chloe still knows how to hack into secure systems from the ISIS Foundation! God forbid Chloe move on and stay with her husband!

No kidding! I loved this episode aside from those little interactions! I'm glad Chloe is useful, but man it's like deja vu.
Clark kissing Lana?
No.
I believe I regurgitated everywhere.
Lois better smack the crap outta Clark.

[paolinki25]

It's a TV show on the CW, what were you expecting?

True, my friend. Unfortunately, we all have to remember in which channel this show is on.

[Kid Collins]

Oh yes he is:D


wow....defensive much? :D

That's not defensive but just defending Clana. :D

[minerva73]

See? But this is the part that annoys me the most. Why do it then? Why bring Lana with the sole purpose of leaving him feeling like crap after she decides to leave? She has done this sooooo many times, and I just hate what it does to Clark. What it does to Lana, I could care less. That character was destroyed long time ago, but bring her only for that? It's just bad, and it proves again why Lana always lacked essence. She is and will always be just the object of affection in this show. No matter how much Kung fu she learns, how shorter her hair, how "brave and awesome she's for saving the world", she will always be just the cute girl who messes up with guys' heads.

That's what he'll realize before she leaves IMO. That she's screwed with his head too many times to be the one that keeps him going and happy after saving people. He'll realize that in the end, after Lois has gotten thrown out windows, knocked out by spaceships, attacked by psychotic jewelers, gotten exorcised, she's STILL going to stand by his side. Not that Lana wouldn't stand by Clark after all that (b/c she has done that after getting jumped on by Thumper and all that boring stuff rom S3), but he'll know that Lois is the equivalent to Danny's wife and child. That she'll be willing to jump on him and kiss him after he saves the day (at the right time, though).

[Timester]

Yes, it's not infatuation. It's real love. That's my opinion and fortunately TPTB back me up on that. :lol:

They do? Where?

We simply saw a kiss. We have yet to see the aftermath of it.

[Jack-El49]

I felt like clawing my eyes out.

[Lilah]

Honestly, had nothing to do with the episode.... they made it seem like Lana was what made Clark keep going... when the whole time he's been going forward (starting the DP, becoming the red-blue blur, etc.) was when she wasn't around... That kiss killed the episode for me....

[myankskent]

True, my friend. Unfortunately, we all have to remember in which channel this show is on.

Exactly. I've had to learn to accept the fact that on Smallville, romance is going to play a part in the storyline and more often than not, it's not going to make any of the characters look good. Even with Clois this season, I wouldn't say that it has been written brilliantly and I still fear what these writers will do with this romance even after Lana is long gone.

[Darth Pipes]

Clark was making such good progress this season. Lana comes back and it all goes to hell. She's the only thing he's interested in on this show. His heart is not into the superhero business.

When this relationship finally does it, it HAS to be Clark who decided to do it. Lana cannot give him an out by leaving. Clark has to reach the decision on his own but I have no confidence the writers will allow him to do so.

[FLyxNERD]

You got that backwards. It's Clark who doesn't deserve Lois.

clark can have anyone he wants....he is too good for lois...

[Liquid-Prince]

You didn't got it. The end of Smallville is established by TPTB since day 1. I'm simply stating a fact.

Besides the lawsuits and firing that would happen the next day Smallville did that.

There would be no lawsuits... They can do with characters and their stories as they please.

[Timester]

There would be no lawsuits... They can do with characters and their stories as they please.

No they can't. They answer to the WB and DC Comics.

[Jack-El49]

Honestly, had nothing to do with the episode.... they made it seem like Lana was what made Clark keep going... when the whole time he's been going forward (starting the DP, becoming the red-blue blur, etc.) was when she wasn't around... That kiss killed the episode for me....

Exactly - and it's sickening.

[mayumi]

the episode was going well with clark doing his own thing with out anything lana involved in his bussiness and then the ending is like what the ....crap is this?

[Kid Collins]

They do? Where?

We simply saw a kiss. We have yet to see the aftermath of it.

No I'm talking about Clana being the main romantic couple since the beginning of this show.

Don't worry, Lois can have Clark again when Lana leaves. I'm sure he'll be lightswitched to notice her again. :lol:

[paolinki25]

Exactly. I've had to learn to accept the fact that on Smallville, romance is going to play a part in the storyline and more often than not, it's not going to make any of the characters look good. Even with Clois this season, I wouldn't say that it has been written brilliantly and I still fear what these writers will do with this romance even after Lana is long gone.

ITA. The truth is they haven't been able to write a proper relationship on this show. Clana had the chance to be remembered as a sweet, first love story; but somehow they managed to turned it into unhealthy infatuation. As you, I also fear how they will write the relationship they had to write properly, Clois.

[JEWCY]

Good ending! Always like a nice Clark/Lana kiss. Up there with Calling and Phantom as one of their better moments.

[Timester]

No I'm talking about Clana being the main romantic couple since the beginning of this show.

But that doesn't says that Clark is in love with Lana. It's like Vergon6 said, Clark is suffering a bad case of nostalgia. He will figure out that while he loves Lana, he moved on.

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ITA. The truth is they haven't been able to write a proper relationship on this show. Clana had the chance to be remembered as a sweet, first love story; but somehow they managed to turned it into unhealthy infatuation. As you, I also fear how they will write the relationship they had to write properly, Clois.

That's why I'm against full Clois on Smallville. Nothing against the teasing and the chasing, but, Rao, let just be it.

[amberdawn]

clark can have anyone he wants....he is too good for lois...

:lol::lol:

[eas]

I also noticed at the end that Clark had a peculiar look on his face, like he was confused. At first I thought I imagined it but then I watched it again. It looked like he got into the kiss but then when they pulled away I expected a wistful expression but instead Clark looked . . . well perplexed.

What it means? I don't know, but it is interesting.

I didn't feel like the Clana was over powering, I just think Clark is going through that phase where he is seeing his relationship with Lana for what he thought it was and is wistfully looking back on that but I don't know, call me insane, but I think that is going to wear off.

It is like anyone that has ever been in a relationship they thought was really serious when they were young, and when you get older you see that ex again and you start to romanticize about the days of yore, but then you get hit in the face with a cold bucket of reality.

I'm sure he'll always love Lana, but I'm pretty sure he isn't IN love with Lana, just basing it on my own experiences.

Amazingly enough, I agree.

A couple of things struck out at me -- Clark was very distracted and brushed Lana off at the hospital. It seemed as though he'd decided to distance himself and didn't want to go there with Lana again. She was trying, I think, to bridge their distance and get to the point where they could be friends. He wasn't really helping her.

In his convo with Chloe, he admitted that it's weird because Lana is there and it's almost like they just slipped back to how it was -- but he wasn't happy about that. And he was pretty clueless about the Lois situation... he didn't want to get into it with Chloe, but it was interesting that he didn't know what to do about Lana at all & he couldn't even think about Lois. I guess I can understand that...

And, then, at the end, when Turpin makes him realize that it's possible to have it all, he goes to Lana and decides that they should try to make it work. If cops can have it all, why not him and Lana? And they kiss... but - to me - it was a nostalgic kiss and they were both trying to capture what they had. But, I don't know, I just felt like he kind of pulled away and looked confused. Maybe the magic wasn't there, like it used to be? Maybe Lana wasn't into it (because I don't think she wants to get back with him)?

I don't know... I'm actually interested to see how this all plays out in "Power" and what Clark's reaction is to the kiss.

[SnowBird]

Like old times seeing Clark give Lana a sweet and gentle kiss. Brings back memories of the Smallville innocent days. I have a feeling more sad times are coming Clark's way. Lois will help pick up the pieces and eventually Clark will see that Lois will be the one that won't break Clark's heart in the future.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Clark doesn't deserve to get beat up just for falling into old habits. It happens to the best of us. I love Lois, I really do, but in Comitted she had a chance to admit what she was feeling and she took the easy way out, and maybe Clark bought it, maybe he didn't, but she was sending him mixed signals. He's not a jerk or a BDA or anything like for being confused.

Any of us that have been in a relationship with someone when we were young, or still are, should be able to sympathize when you are at the moment just before the sun rises, where you remember how much you yearned for the nigh and even if it was always pleasant, it was comfortable, but morning is coming and you are excited about the new day but apprehensive to leave the night behind.

The moment between love interests is never an easy transition, not ever. Lois herself struggled with her feelings for Oliver for a time, and he didn't just let it go either when he had hopes of re-igniting their relationship in 'Siren' I think they have finally gotten over one another, but it didn't happen just because Oliver was out of sight out of mind. Now I'm not going to say Clana is anywhere near as dear to me Lolliepop, given I loved one relationship and really didn't like the other, but Clark isn't going to get over Lana just because she was gone. They need these episodes to figure out where to go from here, and naturally there is going to be some looking back on times past and wondering/wanting something more for a bit. It happens.

I think we can forgive both Clark and Lana that.
I think we can also know that they tried and failed enough that another run isn't the way to go. They are adults now, and different from who they were. They aren't the same people, and that is a good thing. I won't trash on Clana because I know how hard it is to get over your first love, especially one that was on such a roller coaster.

Give Clark some time and I don't think he'll disappoint you. I really don't.

[eas]

ITA. The truth is they haven't been able to write a proper relationship on this show. Clana had the chance to be remembered as a sweet, first love story; but somehow they managed to turned it into unhealthy infatuation. As you, I also fear how they will write the relationship they had to write properly, Clois.

Lollie was well written.

[melissan02]

Okay Clana fans, I acquiesce.
Lana should have Clark Kent. After tonight, that's very obvious. Painfully so, but obvious.
I've always felt that a story as iconic as Superman shouldn't be re-written completely, but in this case of SV, I'd say let it be so. SV has always taken their own way with the mythos, but remained true to the main theme(s). Tonight, with the Clana scene however, was the reason TPTB need to re-write the whole mythos. Lois & Clark are ruined now on SV!! Such a shame!! This ain't no Superman! :mad: No indeed!
Lois deserves better!
Ya'll pull out all the stops to get KK to stick around or come back! She and Clark deserve each other!
I could care less if there's a season 9....let it go!! Let it go!!!

[Liquid-Prince]

In response to a deleted thread:
This is starting to get annoying. I would laugh with glee if the show ended with Clark and Lana together. Not because I'm necessarily a fan, but more because it would give me satisfaction on some level that so many people were jolted. There is nothing wrong with Lana and Clark, and every time they're on the show people are like " oh noezx, teh show is teh suck, iz not supermanz, itz teh regressingz!" Get over people, please...

[paolinki25]

Like old times seeing Clark give Lana a sweet and gentle kiss. Brings back memories of the Smallville innocent days. I have a feeling more sad times are coming Clark's way. Lois will help pick up the pieces and eventually Clark will see that Lois will be the one that won't break Clark's heart in the future.

This is the hope that keeps me watching. :)

[Timester]

Amazingly enough, I agree.

A couple of things struck out at me -- Clark was very distracted and brushed Lana off at the hospital. It seemed as though he'd decided to distance himself and didn't want to go there with Lana again. She was trying, I think, to bridge their distance and get to the point where they could be friends. He wasn't really helping her.

In his convo with Chloe, he admitted that it's weird because Lana is there and it's almost like they just slipped back to how it was -- but he wasn't happy about that. And he was pretty clueless about the Lois situation... he didn't want to get into it with Chloe, but it was interesting that he didn't know what to do about Lana at all & he couldn't even think about Lois. I guess I can understand that...

And, then, at the end, when Turpin makes him realize that it's possible to have it all, he goes to Lana and decides that they should try to make it work. If cops can have it all, why not him and Lana? And they kiss... but - to me - it was a nostalgic kiss and they were both trying to capture what they had. But, I don't know, I just felt like he kind of pulled away and looked confused. Maybe the magic wasn't there, like it used to be? Maybe Lana wasn't into it (because I don't think she wants to get back with him)?

I don't know... I'm actually interested to see how this all plays out in "Power" and what Clark's reaction is to the kiss.

See what I have been telling you for the past couple of weeks? :p

Seriously, I have yet to see the episode, but for what I have read, they are building the exact same scenario which Lois was in the beginning of the season. Though Lois was free, without a chain-ball on her mind, unlike Clark.

[myankskent]

And they kiss... but - to me - it was a nostalgic kiss and they were both trying to capture what they had. But, I don't know, I just felt like he kind of pulled away and looked confused.


It seemed like he was almost second guessing everything that he had just told Lana prior. Maybe the kiss felt good to Clark and maybe it didn't, but I don't believe that Clark is really willing to give up on the world for a relationship at this point. If he is, then we'll be seeing him hang up his red/blue shirt/jacket combo next week along with his DP job.

[Timester]

In response to a deleted thread:
This is starting to get annoying. I would laugh with glee if the show ended with Clark and Lana together. Not because I'm necessarily a fan, but more because it would give me satisfaction on some level that so many people were jolted. There is nothing wrong with Lana and Clark, and every time they're on the show people are like " oh noezx, teh show is teh suck, iz not supermanz, itz teh regressingz!" Get over people, please...

Lana is gone in 2 more episodes. Gone as in never coming back. Didn't you knew that?

[Kid Collins]

Amazingly enough, I agree.

A couple of things struck out at me -- Clark was very distracted and brushed Lana off at the hospital. It seemed as though he'd decided to distance himself and didn't want to go there with Lana again. She was trying, I think, to bridge their distance and get to the point where they could be friends. He wasn't really helping her.

Clark was confused because he thought Lana was asking him on a date or coffee date. She made it pretty clear she's moved on from him and he should accept it. But here she is wanting to do something with him socially. He was surprised.


In his convo with Chloe, he admitted that it's weird because Lana is there and it's almost like they just slipped back to how it was -- but he wasn't happy about that. And he was pretty clueless about the Lois situation... he didn't want to get into it with Chloe, but it was interesting that he didn't know what to do about Lana at all & he couldn't even think about Lois. I guess I can understand that...

Too bad he didn't show an ounce of emotion when he was talking about Lois. No longing in his eyes or expression.


And, then, at the end, when Turpin makes him realize that it's possible to have it all, he goes to Lana and decides that they should try to make it work. If cops can have it all, why not him and Lana? And they kiss... but - to me - it was a nostalgic kiss and they were both trying to capture what they had. But, I don't know, I just felt like he kind of pulled away and looked confused. Maybe the magic wasn't there, like it used to be? Maybe Lana wasn't into it (because I don't think she wants to get back with him)?

I don't know... I'm actually interested to see how this all plays out in "Power" and what Clark's reaction is to the kiss.

I guess it's all up to interpretation and how it supports your ship. But when Clark was talking to Lana his expression and how he talked wasn't someone who was confused. He was very decisive and sure of what he was saying to her. There wasn't any bumbling of his words or hesitation. He told her exactly what he wanted and went for the kiss.

No confusion on Clark's part.

[Timester]

Oh, ops, sorry, forgot the spoilers tag.

Thanks, jimmyolsenblues. :o

[Kreukie]

You got that backwards. It's Clark who doesn't deserve Lois.

But Clark didn't want Lois in the first place, it's been Lois who's been sweating Clark all season. :lol:

[Timester]

Too bad he didn't show an ounce of emotion when he was talking about Lois. No longing in his eyes or expression.

Neither had Lois.


I guess it's all up to interpretation and how it supports your ship. But when Clark was talking to Lana his expression and how he talked wasn't someone who was confused. He was very decisive and sure of what he was saying to her. There wasn't any bumbling of his words or hesitation. He told her exactly what he wanted and went for the kiss.

No confusion on Clark's part.

Keyword: Aftermath.

[WickedJenn]

Well, Clark sure leaned in to kiss Lois in "Bride" no matter what happened afterward.

Anyway, I'm still going to go with what I said last week, Clark's definitely trying to figure it all out while Lana is around.

Still a wait and see for me.

[Loisdragon]

Im tired of clark.

[Timester]

But Clark didn't want Lois in the first place, it's been Lois who's been sweating Clark all season. :lol:

Nope, only after Commited.

[Kreukie]

Well, Clark sure leaned in to kiss Lois in "Bride" no matter what happened afterward.

Yeah, he did the same with Chloe back in season one and his feeling afterward still remain in the friendship stat with her even though.

For me, Clark seems to just be testing the waters with Lois, like he did with Chloe...but he doesn't give the impression he actually wants her in the way he's wants Lana.

I think it's too soon for all that anyway.

[paolinki25]

Im tired of clark.

:lol: Funny. This is exactly what my roommate said while watching this episode.

[eas]

I guess it's all up to interpretation and how it supports your ship. But when Clark was talking to Lana his expression and how he talked wasn't someone who was confused. He was very decisive and sure of what he was saying to her. There wasn't any bumbling of his words or hesitation. He told her exactly what he wanted and went for the kiss.

No confusion on Clark's part.

No, I didn't mean that he was confused before kissed her. I agree that he wanted to kiss her and he was the one who initiated it. (In fact, Lana seemed kind of hesitant.)

I meant afterwards... his expression seemed ambigious to me. That's why I'm interested to see how this plays out in "Power".

And, trust me, I'm not saying this to support my ship. My ship - imo - has sailed and sucks right now. I was surprised to even get the 2 second convo that Chlark had about Lois and it sure as hell didn't make me happy on how it played out. At this point, I'm not even sure I ship SVClois anymore.

So... anyway... I was just saying it how I saw the Clana kiss, without really thinking about how it impacts Lois.

[vyperman7]

Oh, ops, sorry, forgot the spoilers tag.

Thanks, jimmyolsenblues. :o

Timester, I don't really think your post needed a spoiler tag. Basically everyone knows that KK was only doing 5 episodes. If you had given details about what Lana was going to be doing in the next two episodes, then I could see using the spoiler tag. However, just stating the obvious isn't a spoiler.

I don't really understand it either myself in regards to Clana fans getting all excited again. Kristin was obviously brought back just to bring closure to Lana and the Clana romance finally.

[Liquid-Prince]

Lana is gone in 2 more episodes. Gone as in never coming back. Didn't you knew that?

Yes I knew that.

[Alexander III]

I'm gonna miss Lana, gonna cherish her before she disappears =)

[eas]

See what I have been telling you for the past couple of weeks? :p

Seriously, I have yet to see the episode, but for what I have read, they are building the exact same scenario which Lois was in the beginning of the season. Though Lois was free, without a chain-ball on her mind, unlike Clark.


You gonna pull an "I told you so" on me, Timester? :)

Let's wait until after "Requiem"... but, I'll admit, I enjoyed this episode. I really did. Clark was, for the most part, awesome.

However, the Clark fan in me was happy in this episode, but the Clois fan? Hhmm... I'm not so sure.

But Clark is more important to me than Clois. And, story-wise, I felt that the way Clark acted with Lana made sense.

[minerva73]

Too bad he didn't show an ounce of emotion when he was talking about Lois. No longing in his eyes or expression.

Same thing with Clark in Toxic. He said to Lois that he sits back and watches Lana's goodbye video. He didn't look like he yearning for Lana to return. No longing in his eyes or expression.

[Timester]

:) You gonna pull an "I told you so" on me, Timester? Let's wait until after "Requiem"... but, I'll admit, I enjoyed this episode. I really did. Clark was, for the most part, awesome.

Nah... But since you asked so nicely, I told you so! :lol:

But, yeah, we have to see what happens on Infamous. My only concern is Power, don't have a good feeling about it.

[eas]

It seemed like he was almost second guessing everything that he had just told Lana prior. Maybe the kiss felt good to Clark and maybe it didn't, but I don't believe that Clark is really willing to give up on the world for a relationship at this point. If he is, then we'll be seeing him hang up his red/blue shirt/jacket combo next week along with his DP job.

Well, that was the whole point of the episode, wasn't it? Clark has thought, up to this point, that he had to choose: "Save the world or be with the one you love."

Turpin's last words to him made him realize that he shouldn't have to choose. So, he went to Lana to tell her that they should be able to have it all.

My question is... where do they go from here? I mean, Clark seemed onboard with this, but Lana really doesn't. And the trailer for next week makes it seem like Lana is very resistant to them being together.

So... let's see how this plays out.

[myankskent]

See what I have been telling you for the past couple of weeks? :p


The game's not over yet.:) You have a 7-4 lead after 7 innings but there are still two innings(episodes) left to play so until those final outs are recorded, anything can happen.

[eas]

Yeah, he did the same with Chloe back in season one and his feeling afterward still remain in the friendship stat with her even though.

For me, Clark seems to just be testing the waters with Lois, like he did with Chloe...but he doesn't give the impression he actually wants her in the way he's wants Lana.

I agree.

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Nah... But since you asked so nicely, I told you so! :lol:

But, yeah, we have to see what happens on Infamous. My only concern is Power, don't have a good feeling about it.

Well, you can give me half an "I told you so"... I had fears of Clark regressing and he didn't do that. But I was right about how Clana went down... I don't see Clark being the one to end the relationship... he is, as usual, chasing after Lana & she's got reasons to stop him.

Anyway... we'll see, though, how it all plays out. I'm reserving judgement until after "Requiem".

[LovelyLoisLane]

I guess it's all up to interpretation and how it supports your ship.

No confusion on Clark's part.

Excuse me, but I am not a Cloiser, I'm a Lois fan and I'm a Clark fan this season as well. I happen to be a Lolliepopper, so explain to me why I would be seeing something with Clana that isn't there because it affects how Oliver and Lois feel about eachother?

It could have been that you were enjoying the kiss and didn't want to see the look on Clark's face, did you think about that? Take your own words to heart and think about them.

Now I don't know what that look meant, it could've meant that he was confused as to what kind of Stride gum Lana had been chewing earlier. I don't know, maybe he wasn't confused at all.

But I picked up on it and I actually DID think I was imagining it, so I hit the back button on the TiVo and checked again . . . twice. There was something there, and I think I know what it means, but I don't know for sure. Neither do you my friend. And this whole back and forth between Cloisers and Clanaists of "Nah nah, my ship is better than your ship" is getting ridiculous. To the point that some of it is getting aimed at someone that isn't even a SV-RomaCloiser for crying out loud!

I watch the show with a grain of salt, but because I don't ship Clark with anyone I spot things that shippers might not like, but it doesn't mean those things aren't there. I don't claim to have inside knowledge as to what is going on, so I just do what ALL of you do and speculate. Respect my speculation as I respect yours. I'm being very cordial towards Clana right now, and I'm looking at it logically.

I wish I had some caps of that or I show you the image of his face and you'd be force into admitting that there was something on his face that was odd at the very end. Wether it meant anything or not is anyone's guess but there WAS something there, and please refrain from a needless "Oh yeah, it was the look of utter devotion to Lana, duh!" Or anything like that you might feel like squeeing at me. If you think Clana is the ownage of all ships, fine, be merry but I am not imagining things.

[Kid Collins]

No, I didn't mean that he was confused before kissed her. I agree that he wanted to kiss her and he was the one who initiated it. (In fact, Lana seemed kind of hesitant.)

I just watched the kiss again and after the kiss they both looked at each other with a question mark on their face. My interpretation of that is "Where do go from here" .

Their kiss gets better everytime I watch it.



Same thing with Clark in Toxic. He said to Lois that he sits back and watches Lana's goodbye video. He didn't look like he yearning for Lana to return. No longing in his eyes or expression.

Difference is that Clark was angry with Lana for leaving. He wanted to forget her and move on. He was pissed at her Dear John video.

With Lois she didn't do anything to piss him off. He should show some emotion when he's talking about her.

[Alaska Young]

Loved the clana!!

[eas]

I just watched the kiss again and after the kiss they both looked at each other with a question mark on their face. My interpretation of that is "Where do go from here" .

Your interpretation works, I'm sure. In fact, I think we're both kind of looking at it the same way... because, to me, past Clana kisses have not really ended that way. Where they wonder what they're going to do next, you know? It's always so intense and stuff. And, this time, the very fact that they looked confused tells me that something is different now.

This one was different... I don't know... I guess that's why I want to see what happens in "Power". But it seems as though Lana's response isn't going to be, "Oh yeah, let's get together! You're right!" She says some stuff in the trailer that makes it seem like she thinks Clark is wrong.

What did you think about the "If I squint, it's almost like we're 14 again..." convo? I liked it. It reminded me of the history the share and it just struck me, in that moment, that these two have been there -- at the Talon -- with Lana making coffee, since they were kids. And, now, they both looked so grown up and mature. I'm glad they put that line in... because it made Clark's words to her make more sense to me. It made the kiss and Clark wanting to make it work with her make more sense.

[AndiGirl]

I'm disappointed in both of them honestly. :(

The new and improved Lana who came back fully aware that Clark had a destiny beyond her....where did she go??

This Lana didnt put up much of a fight at all. :\
And since we know that Lana wont be around all that long....she's just getting his hopes up??

Then Clark....one minute he's about to kiss Lois, then he's takling to Chloe and saying her name like it's a bad thing. :(

He just came off as incredibly immature...almost like a 12 year old girl. Fickle...Fickle...fickle..


So yea, not thrilled about the Clana. Just make it like a band aid....rip it off quick and painfully! :lol:

BUT, for the Clana fans out there...I really am happy for you. :)

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

So sad...a good episode ruined in the last few minutes...why PS3? Is it just bcs you want to appeal to the Clana fans... I'm sorry but your losing out on your Clois fans this way...*sigh* Clark of course is my number one fan and I will watch regardless... However Lois Lane doesn't deserve Clark if he is always Clana Obsessed :\

[LovelyLoisLane]

No, I didn't mean that he was confused before kissed her. I agree that he wanted to kiss her and he was the one who initiated it. (In fact, Lana seemed kind of hesitant.)

I meant afterwards... his expression seemed ambigious to me. That's why I'm interested to see how this plays out in "Power".

And, trust me, I'm not saying this to support my ship. My ship - imo - has sailed and sucks right now. I was surprised to even get the 2 second convo that Chlark had about Lois and it sure as hell didn't make me happy on how it played out. At this point, I'm not even sure I ship SVClois anymore.

So... anyway... I was just saying it how I saw the Clana kiss, without really thinking about how it impacts Lois.


I agree with your post, it is exactly what I meant as well. I know he wanted to kiss Lana and he also seemed to me to be enjoying the kiss. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed that look on his face though. Lana had, I think, a very peaceful look on her face afterwards of expected wistfullness. I'm sure Clark went into that kiss going on what the cop said to him before about 'having someone that makes it all worth it' I really think Clark was thinking that person might be Lana. I'm not protesting that.

But there WAS a look from Clark of being perplexed right at the very end that caught my interest, it caught my interest when I wasn't even looking that hard. It was that available to the eye. I don't know what it means, but it was there.

Also, I don't want anyone to think that I keep saying "I'm not a shipper and that makes me objective" and hearing instead that I'm saying that ALL shippers are incapable of being objective. I just know that it can be hard to be open minded about something that really isn't what you like when you want to see something else a whole lot more. I am or rather was an active Lolliepop shipper and I know I wasn't always the most objective with defending my one ship of choice. So I just want everyone to know that I realise some shippers CAN be open minded as well. :)

[nic25]

I just finfished the epi and i have to say,i did not like that last scene.I know we have to see how it all plays out,but is just seems as if Clark is never gonna realize that him and Lana should just be over.I really feel like Lois is gonna have a second place in his heart.I also think that for there last few episodes together they could have left out the whole Clark begging for Lana convo.I would have rather see them just be 2 people trying to be friends because even though they love eachother,they know they cant be together.It seems Lana may have gotten that but it would have been nice to see Clark come to that conclusion first.

Sometimes it seems like Clark never gets anything until someone else tells him first.

But hey it there ending may not be so bad!

[doodie8808]

im a cloiser and i really dont see why others are that angry they kissed it was bound to happen and i don't think lois will be second choice, i think the secert in power will piss ck off that both lana and chloe are keeping secerts still and he will see some things just don't change, i think lois will be a in his life and he will fall because of that but from lois stand point i think she has lost feelings for him and then it will be vise versa but the eppy was cool not a lana fan but she kicked but until tess threw her through glass. im intersted in how this will play out! I love lois as a character and clois so i do want to see next week eppy not clana but everybody deserves closure and they will get it sorry for spelling but just tired and have to work tomorrow which sucks ass a whole lot!)

[kal-el_Girl]

I'm going to have to watch that scene several times!! but I'm really disappointed with Clark :(:(:(

glad I'm not the only one that feels like this, I'm basically pretty sick and tired of clana situation, the writers just want to keep pushing that button until kingdom comes.:mad:

[Kid Collins]

Your interpretation works, I'm sure. In fact, I think we're both kind of looking at it the same way... because, to me, past Clana kisses have not really ended that way. Where they wonder what they're going to do next, you know? It's always so intense and stuff. And, this time, the very fact that they looked confused tells me that something is different now.

Of course. Lana wants to be with Clark but deep down she knows his destiny is more important. I bet Clark feels kind of the same way. It's like wanting something so badly but a part of you knows that your not doing the right thing. It'll definitely make you hesitate. But that doesn't mean that you want that thing LESS. It's just your conscience is getting in the way.

But let's continue this discussion after Power airs.

We'll see how confused Clark and Lana are about their relationship.



What did you think about the "If I squint, it's almost like we're 14 again..." convo? I liked it. It reminded me of the history the share and it just struck me, in that moment, that these two have been there -- at the Talon -- with Lana making coffee, since they were kids. And, now, they both looked so grown up and mature. I'm glad they put that line in... because it made Clark's words to her make more sense to me. It made the kiss and Clark wanting to make it work with her make more sense.

I liked it also. Brought back memories of the early seasons when Clana relationship wasn't so angsty or complicated.

[minerva73]

Difference is that Clark was angry with Lana for leaving. He wanted to forget her and move on. He was pissed at her Dear John video.

With Lois she didn't do anything to piss him off. He should show some emotion when he's talking about her.

Maybe Clark is upset with Lois. She did leave him in Bride and he tried to put that away, but when she comes back, he'll realize that he was wrong to hide those feelings. Just like when Lana came back and Clark wasn't ready to hop back into a relationship with her too. It wasn't until Turpin told Clark that he could be with the one he cared about and save the world (like eas said) that Clark would've gone to Lana. In my opinion, he only went to her because at the moment, she was the only person standing by him. He could go give that speech to Chloe, but what satisfaction would that give him? When Clark realizes that he and Lana aren't meant to be, he'll find that Lois will be the person that's equivalent to Danny's wife and child. But that's all just my opinion.


I'm disappointed in both of them honestly. :(

The new and improved Lana who came back fully aware that Clark had a destiny beyond her....where did she go??

This Lana didnt put up much of a fight at all. :\
And since we know that Lana wont be around all that long....she's just getting his hopes up??

In Lana's defense, she didn't just sit there and let Clark pour his feelings out to her and then kiss her unexpectedly. He asked her how long she'd be around and she said that she doesn't know, but it's not for a long time. Lana was slowly trying to push Clark away, but she couldn't do it because she still loves Clark too, but she knows that it's not meant to be.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Your interpretation works, I'm sure. In fact, I think we're both kind of looking at it the same way... because, to me, past Clana kisses have not really ended that way. Where they wonder what they're going to do next, you know? It's always so intense and stuff. And, this time, the very fact that they looked confused tells me that something is different now.

This one was different... I don't know... I guess that's why I want to see what happens in "Power". But it seems as though Lana's response isn't going to be, "Oh yeah, let's get together! You're right!" She says some stuff in the trailer that makes it seem like she thinks Clark is wrong.

What did you think about the "If I squint, it's almost like we're 14 again..." convo? I liked it. It reminded me of the history the share and it just struck me, in that moment, that these two have been there -- at the Talon -- with Lana making coffee, since they were kids. And, now, they both looked so grown up and mature. I'm glad they put that line in... because it made Clark's words to her make more sense to me. It made the kiss and Clark wanting to make it work with her make more sense.

I agree and I also thank Collins for at least trying to look at that scene and realize what we were saying, that can take a lot and I appreciate it. :)

I also concur with you about how they are mature now as opposed to little kids, which is what I was trying to say earlier about them not being the same people anymore. Which is a good thing. You just said it a lot more elegantly.

[Ginx]

I think Clark is confused and went back to when he thought he was 'comfortable' but as Lana said to him 'we're not 14 anymore' I don't think that they are the same people any more and Clark is going to realize that and also realize he's moved on.

[AndiGirl]

Maybe Clark is upset with Lois. She did leave him in Bride and he tried to put that away, but when she comes back, he'll realize that he was wrong to hide those feelings. Just like when Lana came back and Clark wasn't ready to hop back into a relationship with her too. It wasn't until Turpin told Clark that he could be with the one he cared about and save the world (like eas said) that Clark would've gone to Lana. In my opinion, he only went to her because at the moment, she was the only person standing by him. He could go give that speech to Chloe, but what satisfaction would that give him? When Clark realizes that he and Lana aren't meant to be, he'll find that Lois will be the person that's equivalent to Danny's wife and child. But that's all just my opinion.



In Lana's defense, she didn't just sit there and let Clark pour his feelings out to her and then kiss her unexpectedly. He asked her how long she'd be around and she said that she doesn't know, but it's not for a long time. Lana was slowly trying to push Clark away, but she couldn't do it because she still loves Clark too, but she knows that it's not meant to be.

Yea, I guess that's true. I forgot she did try to discourage him. But come one...try harder!! :lol:

Clark was just so determined to live in the "right now." Even though I think he knows he isnt the type to be ok with a relationship one day..and the next the woman he loves picks up and leaves.

Once again fooling himself. :\

[eas]

I'm disappointed in both of them honestly. :(

The new and improved Lana who came back fully aware that Clark had a destiny beyond her....where did she go??

This Lana didnt put up much of a fight at all. :\
And since we know that Lana wont be around all that long....she's just getting his hopes up??

Actually, I'm going to defend Lana here. I didn't get that sense from her, at all.

When she stopped by for coffee, I felt like she was trying to be friends with Clark. She was kind of sad that things were weird between them. I get that.

Then, at the Talon, I loved her, "You say that like it's a good thing...". Her voice was friendly and upbeat... she was happy he was talking to her. But I totally didn't get the sense that she was hitting on him or anything.

And, then, Clark makes a comment about her being there & she immediately reminds him that she doesn't know how long she's going to be around. (We know she isn't staying for him, but she doesn't tell him this... I'm sure she will at some point.) She doesn't get his hopes up or try to make it seem that it's Clark who is keeping her there.

And - at the end - Clark is the one who wants to make it work again and she tells him that the world needs him... that's Lana's way of saying, "No." When he leans in to kiss her, does she kiss him back? Of course... she cares for him and have you seen him? He's hot. I'd kiss him, too.

Point is... I didn't get the sense that Lana was trying to start something up again.


Then Clark....one minute he's about to kiss Lois, then he's takling to Chloe and saying her name like it's a bad thing. :(

Well, this is a Clana thread, so I think this should be elsewhere... but, no, I didn't see him saying Lois's name as though it was a bad thing. I saw him as being unable to describe Lois properly (which is kind of sweet in a weird way) and Chloe understood and gave him an out.


He just came off as incredibly immature...almost like a 12 year old girl. Fickle...Fickle...fickle..

Hhhmmm... it's not great storytelling that he almost kissed Lois in "Bride" and now he's trying to give it another shot with Lana. But I don't know if he's fickle. He's confused and he loved Lana for a long time. He just doesn't have that same depth of emotion for Lois, I guess. Or, if he does, he doesn't know it.

[j-peezy]

Eventhough I am a Clana Fan.. I say... FORGET CLANA and more Lana-Fu!!!! Loved the scene with Tess... I want more Oliver Queen and Lana.


I sense a little chemistry there too...Lanaver. But lets face it...nothing'll ever come of that. Lana-Fu! Woo Woo!


And, I have to stick up for CK cuz I totally know how it feels to walk in those shoes. Plus, he never got to work it out, she just took off. He needs to work it out. Refer back to S6, Lois is Clark's future, Lana is his past, this is the present...let him work it out! Lois is a big girl. Lana is now too...thanks to Lex!

[Loisdragon]

Lana just wants to Tap that and bounce.

[udtiger]

You Clana haters floor me. Your first TRUE love is hard to shake, regardless of the circumstances. Mind you, this has been a two-way street. Lana has been just as "obsessed" w/ Clark as Clark has been with Lana (at least since Whitney went away).

Besides, you KNOW she's only around for 1 more episode and, as noted, this wasn't your "typical" Clana kiss. If you can get past your revulsion, you will see that the looks being exchanges were the "that was nice, but let's just be friends" looks.

I know all of you are hell bent on Lois and Clark (and I admit, I like the way the writers have developed this [anvils and all]), but in the mythos, they (L & C) don't get together for quite some time.

[eas]

I also concur with you about how they are mature now as opposed to little kids, which is what I was trying to say earlier about them not being the same people anymore. Which is a good thing. You just said it a lot more elegantly.

I almost feel like they did it on purpose... they haven't used that part of the Talon set in a long time. To have Lana standing there, making coffee... it was almost like they were echoing Clana of past (pre-Lexana) and we were hit with the same amount of nostalgia as Clark was.

The Clana kiss in "Red", imo, is one of the hottest kisses in SV history. And this scene reminded me of that scene -- Lana was so different now. In complete ownership of who she is and was able to hold her own against Clark. He was urging her to think beyond what the world needed and think about them, as a couple, but she disagreed. Clark initiated the kiss, much like he did back in "Red", and Lana recieved it - like she did in "Red"... but so many things were different between them. It wasn't an outpouring of lust, emotion, or even massive amounts of love. It was two people feeling their way and trying to re-connect.

So, when Clark and Lana pulled away from each other, I almost saw them thinking, "Wow, we really aren't 14 anymore, are we?"

[minerva73]

Yea, I guess that's true. I forgot she did try to discourage him. But come one...try harder!! :lol:

Clark was just so determined to live in the "right now." Even though I think he knows he isnt the type to be ok with a relationship one day..and the next the woman he loves picks up and leaves.

Once again fooling himself. :\

I agree, Clark was definitely not thinking in the long term about his decision. But I mean, I guess when he realized how much sense Danny made, he wanted to get that satisfaction immediately. Not that he was trying to play Lana or anything, but that he wanted to be loved after saving people all in one day.


Then, at the Talon, I loved her, "You say that like it's a good thing...". Her voice was friendly and upbeat... she was happy he was talking to her. But I totally didn't get the sense that she was hitting on him or anything.

To be honest, I didn't really get that line. I know Clark was trying to show how similar the two situations were, but was Lana acknowledging the angst and the problems that they had back then?

[ginnyfan]

What did you all think of Clana in this episode?

It was wonderful. It simply was. Clark was heroic. Lana was a realist. Clark was an idealist. Lana was doin' the Lana-fu. Why oh why couldn't it have been like this long ago.

It was lovely to see them together in the Talon.

The writing led into Clark reconsidering his relationship with Lana so perfectly. His destiny was this roadblock to his relationship with Lana for so many years. He always thought it was this either or thing. So it was great to see him realize that maybe he could do both. Great job Smallville!

[AndiGirl]

Actually, I'm going to defend Lana here. I didn't get that sense from her, at all.

When she stopped by for coffee, I felt like she was trying to be friends with Clark. She was kind of sad that things were weird between them. I get that.

Then, at the Talon, I loved her, "You say that like it's a good thing...". Her voice was friendly and upbeat... she was happy he was talking to her. But I totally didn't get the sense that she was hitting on him or anything.

And, then, Clark makes a comment about her being there & she immediately reminds him that she doesn't know how long she's going to be around. (We know she isn't staying for him, but she doesn't tell him this... I'm sure she will at some point.) She doesn't get his hopes up or try to make it seem that it's Clark who is keeping her there.

And - at the end - Clark is the one who wants to make it work again and she tells him that the world needs him... that's Lana's way of saying, "No." When he leans in to kiss her, does she kiss him back? Of course... she cares for him and have you seen him? He's hot. I'd kiss him, too.

Point is... I didn't get the sense that Lana was trying to start something up again.



Well, this is a Clana thread, so I think this should be elsewhere... but, no, I didn't see him saying Lois's name as though it was a bad thing. I saw him as being unable to describe Lois properly (which is kind of sweet in a weird way) and Chloe understood and gave him an out.



Hhhmmm... it's not great storytelling that he almost kissed Lois in "Bride" and now he's trying to give it another shot with Lana. But I don't know if he's fickle. He's confused and he loved Lana for a long time. He just doesn't have that same depth of emotion for Lois, I guess. Or, if he does, he doesn't know it.

I do agree about Lana. I didnt give her the benefit...now that I've re-watched it, it's obvious she is trying to stay on the friendly side...and Clark is the one pushing it.

Clark though, I'm sorry I still disagree. He is lonely and yes...he may still love Lana. But he seems to have the mind set that if he doesnt think about things...they arent issues. I will bring up Lois again, only because I very much think she ties into this. If she was around...Clark wouldnt have made his decision so easily. I'm sure of that. So when I say fickle...I mean its the typical "out of sight out of mind" mentality.

I agree though, his feelings for Lois arent that developed yet...and he has a long history with Lana. So i can see why his draw to her would be stronger. Plus,he so badly wants to have a super life and a normal life. And Lana knows that side of his life...where Lois does not. Less complications.

So....basically, I'll deal with Clana for now. And if some how it gets Clark to a better place, then awesome. I just hope it doesnt make him digress. :\

[eas]

Maybe Clark is upset with Lois. She did leave him in Bride and he tried to put that away, but when she comes back, he'll realize that he was wrong to hide those feelings. Just like when Lana came back and Clark wasn't ready to hop back into a relationship with her too. It wasn't until Turpin told Clark that he could be with the one he cared about and save the world (like eas said) that Clark would've gone to Lana. In my opinion, he only went to her because at the moment, she was the only person standing by him. He could go give that speech to Chloe, but what satisfaction would that give him? When Clark realizes that he and Lana aren't meant to be, he'll find that Lois will be the person that's equivalent to Danny's wife and child. But that's all just my opinion.

As much as I would love to look at it that way, I really don't.

I think he chose to go to Lana, because Lana is who he has given up to save the world and she is the one who thinks that there is a choice he has to make. This has been a constant theme in their relationship in S7. So, he went back to his ex-girlfriend, because he realized that they should be able to have it all. I can't imagine a scenario in which Lois would have come to his mind, given that this sort of thing has never been an issue between him and Lois.

Also, I don't think he's upset with Lois. I really do believe that he's compartmentalized Lois and Lana. Lois is... hard for him to deal with. He figured he'd deal with the Lana situation first, and then Lois would just resolve itself.

I think, of course, this will come back to hurt him when Lana is gone & he's working side-by-side with Lois. If his feelings for Lois increase and he realizes that he feels more strongly for her than he thought -- well, she may not be as receptive as she would have been if he hadn't taken the time to sort out his feelings.

But right now? He's chosen Lana over Lois. It's just the way it is.

[Kcirtap41B]

Lana just wants to Tap that and bounce.


:rotfl:

[nic25]

I do agree about Lana. I didnt give her the benefit...now that I've re-watched it, it's obvious she is trying to stay on the friendly side...and Clark is the one pushing it.

Clark though, I'm sorry I still disagree. He is lonely and yes...he may still love Lana. But he seems to have the mind set that if he doesnt think about things...they arent issues. I will bring up Lois again, only because I very much think she ties into this. If she was around...Clark wouldnt have made his decision so easily. I'm sure of that. So when I say fickle...I mean its the typical "out of sight out of mind" mentality.

I agree though, his feelings for Lois arent that developed yet...and he has a long history with Lana. So i can see why his draw to her would be stronger. Plus,he so badly wants to have a super life and a normal life. And Lana knows that side of his life...where Lois does not. Less complications.

So....basically, I'll deal with Clana for now. And if some how it gets Clark to a better place, then awesome. I just hope it doesnt make him digress. :\

I agree!

Its just sometimes its so hard to give cut them slack,when things have been stretched and emphazied so much for so long.

[rysamad]

yeah, just the wait it is.

[Kreukie]

Lana just wants to Tap that and bounce.

And people say she isn't smart... can you blame her? Clark has a lot growing up to do and Oliver, Lois and Chloe seem pretty find with telling him how to be and act still. :rotfl:

[eas]

To be honest, I didn't really get that line. I know Clark was trying to show how similar the two situations were, but was Lana acknowledging the angst and the problems that they had back then?

When they were 14, they didn't have angst, though. Early Clana was, actually, quite lovely. It was a nice story of first love. Back then, Clark loved Lana from afar and she was a sweet girl. I think what the purpose was that he was remembering less complicated times.

Look at it from Clark's POV... when he was 14 his life was a little more simple. He has both of his parents, good friends, and he loved the girl next door. He and Lana didn't have years of bitterness, lies, and secrets between them. He hadn't met Zod, Brianiac, or seen the Phantom Zone. The weight of the world was not on his shoulders. Lex Luthor was his best friend. The biggest problem he had was making sure that folks didn't know his secret, but it wasn't as hard back then... he wasn't as guilt all the time back then.

If you're Clark and you see this woman & for a split second, you see the shadow of the young girl you once used to love in a simpler time? That's a good moment. And you'll say it in a happy way. And I think even Lana understood... she kind of laughed when she responded.

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So....basically, I'll deal with Clana for now. And if some how it gets Clark to a better place, then awesome. I just hope it doesnt make him digress. :\

He didn't regress in this episode. I hope he doesn't in the upcoming ones, but we'll see.

I think he had a good reason to try to make it work with Lana and he had a good reason to kiss her. It didn't seem like regression to me. (He did regress in "Bride" and "Legion", but he seems to have gotten over it here.)

[Alaska Young]

Clana = 1

Clois = 0

[paolinki25]

I agree!

Its just sometimes its so hard to give cut them slack,when things have been stretched and emphazied so much for so long.

Unfortunately, this is true. We have been slapped in the face so many times before, it's hard to trust TPTB. I can't help but remember the stupid fake baby storyline. I said to myself: "There's no way they're gonna go there and destroy Lex's character" and yet, they did.

[ClanaDestinyObsession]

I don't see what's to discuss about Clana. They both obviously love each other and always have. They both care about helping the world. That kiss was a message communicating that "We both want the same things. Why can't we save the world together? Why don't we deserve to come home at the end of the day and be together? Even heroes need love. You will never stop being the one for me"
It's what I've dreamed of for Clana all along. The kiss was longing and full of desire. At the end the *minor* perplexity was more "wow. so now...I guess...wow. Well then."

Really. it was perfect. *STILL BUZZED*

I am still a "depressed" little "Clanaist" though because I can just sense that the writers are going to stick to canon and be all "oh but lois!"
*PHHHBBBBB!!!*
lois and Clark would never work because of the same reason why she said that she and Ollie would never work, only Lollie was cuter. And if Lana and Clark can't work, than by no means could lois and Clark work.


~♥♥*SUPER CLANA FOREVER*♥♥~

[Fallen One]

Nothing. Nothingggggg good can come from a Clana kiss on the lips. EVER.

I didn't see confusion at the end, at best it was ambuiguity and even that may be stretching it considering the kiss in the next episode.

Nothing good can come from Clark crawling back to Lana while she stands there and lectures him about the greater good. NOTHING.

These writers think this crap is good entertainment, good drama, good romance or whatever the hell else they think it is. But its poor writing, rehashing, and insanity. Writing Clark.. CLARK KENT.. as being the one to make a move for Lana is disgusting.

Clark is the one doing the chasing, Clark is the one who is after Lana like a lost puppy, Clark's the one who hasn't learned the lesson here. It was Lana that says they aren't kids anymore. How is that good for Clark's character? HOW! He has no idea about the video. As far as he knows, she dumped his ass via dvd. And yet after that embarassing, humilating, castrating event.. he goes back to her.

HOW is that good for Clark? HOW??!

I'm not going to smile and nod about that garbage.

[Alania]

Nah... But since you asked so nicely, I told you so! :lol:

But, yeah, we have to see what happens on Infamous. My only concern is Power, don't have a good feeling about it.

Why? Because of more Clana? I'm a girl, these things really get to me. Maybe in this one we can see more of Clark getting over Lana, i wanna have your optimism, i really do, that he already has, just doesn't know yet.

[smallvillerocks45]

I'm not disappointed by the Clana at all. I am really warming up to the Clois factor on this show, but I've always believed that Clark and Lana deserve closure. Besides it wouldn't be fair to Lois to have Clois happen with a part of his heart lingers with Clana. We need a clean break first.

Yet, it's like Clark said to Chloe in this episode, people don't stop loving people just like that. I think Clark and Lana will always love each other, but if this show is truly about Superman's origins - the man before the legend - and I wholeheartedly believe it is, then by the end of Lana's arc on the show, we'll see why Clana doesn't work out... and by series' end (be it at the end of S8 or the end of S9 *maybe*) we'll understand why Lois does.

I am certain, however, that when Clois does finally happen, he won't be thinking of her as a rebound or someone to love as a second-rate substitiute. He'll be committed to her because ultimately she'll give him what no other girl could... and I think he'll give her what she couldn't find in anyone else, too.

[kentfamily]

I'm with eas and ginnyfan and clana4Life.
Loisdragon that was a good one. Tap and Bounce!!!LOL!!! Who wouldn't tap that and bounce!!lol!!! I mean Chloe still has some kind of thing for him, she just puts behind her.

When Chloe was talking to Clark, the impression I got from Clark was he didnt even know Lois liked him. The almost kiss between Lois and Clark was maybe out of loneliness on his part. He was going to kiss away Lana out of his mind. Like the musical " South Pacific, the song "I'm going to wash that man out of my hair ", replace "man" with "girl".
The situation between Clark and Lana, its "a beginning of a beautiful friendship" (Casablanca) nothing more.

Remember what IMRA said in Legion. Lana was the one that made who Clark Kent/Superman is. This is the part where they are writing their destinys? destinies? She was the one that pushed him to becoming the superhero that he is. She is partaking in the helping of saving the world against evil!! Just like the Justice League. If she wa sthe Insect Queen then isnt that a superhero?

[paolinki25]

Saving the world together? Lana ain't no superhero and Superman doesn't need a sidekick chick who "inspires him to become a superhero". The world, the need of people suffering. That's what should inspire Clark to become Superman.


Clark is the one doing the chasing, Clark is the one who is after Lana like a lost puppy, Clark's the one who hasn't learned the lesson here. It was Lana that says they aren't kids anymore. How is that good for Clark's character? HOW! He has no idea about the video. As far as he knows, she dumped his ass via dvd. And yet after all of that embarassing, humilating, castrating event.. he goes back to her. Again, HOW is that good for Clark? HOW??!

See, I try to stay positive and think that "Power" will bring some sort of explanation for all this, but I just cannot avoid being upset about the WTF? moments this episode had in regards to Clark's character.

[celita]

Clana = 1

Clois = 0

Clana = 1

Clois = 70 plus eternity :p:p:p

[Dyanara]

Clark is a witch-w+b. He's a little punk who needs to go hide on his farm and never leave it. I think even Lana is too good for him at this point.

[amberdawn]

Clana = 1

Clois = 70 plus eternity :p:p:p

:D

[minerva73]

As much as I would love to look at it that way, I really don't.

I think he chose to go to Lana, because Lana is who he has given up to save the world and she is the one who thinks that there is a choice he has to make. This has been a constant theme in their relationship in S7. So, he went back to his ex-girlfriend, because he realized that they should be able to have it all. I can't imagine a scenario in which Lois would have come to his mind, given that this sort of thing has never been an issue between him and Lois.

Also, I don't think he's upset with Lois. I really do believe that he's compartmentalized Lois and Lana. Lois is... hard for him to deal with. He figured he'd deal with the Lana situation first, and then Lois would just resolve itself.

I think, of course, this will come back to hurt him when Lana is gone & he's working side-by-side with Lois. If his feelings for Lois increase and he realizes that he feels more strongly for her than he thought -- well, she may not be as receptive as she would have been if he hadn't taken the time to sort out his feelings.

But right now? He's chosen Lana over Lois. It's just the way it is.

I have to say that I agree that Clark did come to the realization that he could have it all with Lana now. I feel that there's going to be a time (probably in Power as he's rewatching the video from Arctic) when Clark realizes that even if he can have it all with Lana, he won't want it because he knows that there could be problems in the future. I also agree that there hasn't been a situation where Lois has been the choice between saving the world and being with her. But maybe his brush with being a celebrity in Infamous and Lois' reaction (if she has one) will make him realize that she can be that peson in his life.

I also agree with you about finding it difficult to deal with Lois. With the Lana situation, he's trying to handle it, but he's not really taking Lana's feelings into consideration. Even after Lana said that she wouldn't be around for a while, he said that he didn't care if she stayed for ten years or until tomorrow because they could have it now. He didn't really give Lana the chance to tell him how badly the world needs him. She hasn't gotten the chance to pour her feelings out to Clark like she tried to do in her video. But then again, maybe it's supposed to happen like this, so she can say it in Power and they can take steps to their break up.

[susangail]

I don't think Clark regressed, exactly, but he cannot yet see past his own nostalgia and sense of regret. Some person or event will have to clear his vision.

[ClanaClois]

I loved Clana and still do but I have come around to being excited to see Clois take off and Bride is the one that pushed me over that edge with Lois' reaction to CK reading Jimmy's vows and then the confession to Oliver.

Anyone posting on this forum knows by now that KK has 2 more shows and that's all folks... end of Clana, so just enjoy it while it is here. In 2 weeks time we will see closure on Clana for good which opens up a whole new direction for the remaining shows this season and next (if it ever makes it).

KK as IMHO she has held the #1 spot as far as being the most attractive woman on the show these past 8 years... Sarah Carter is the only one that really gave KK a run for her money and Erica is nothing to sneeze at but c'mon if you have been watching since season 1 when KK played the girl next door it is hard to leave that behind and even having to sit through Lexana it still didn't take away from the beauty that KK brings to a screen.

[ClanaDestinyObsession]

Saving the world together? Lana ain't no superhero and Superman doesn't need a sidekick chick who "inspires him to become a superhero". The world, the need of people suffering. That's what should inspire Clark to become Superman.


Lana isn't a superhero, but she puts herself in harm's way to help Clark's purpose. And Lana wouldn't be his sidekick but someone who DOES inspire him, because she is the reason he is who he will become. There should be nothing keeping them apart. They both carry a great deal of responsibility on their shoulders, why not share the burden.


Also I think after the last episode, where the girl from the future *can't think of her name* talks to Lana about her and Clark, she's starting to realize that it doesn't matter if Clark has a destiny. Why can't she be a part of it?

[amberdawn]

But right now? He's chosen Lana over Lois. It's just the way it is.

Yes, indeed. Sad, but true.

I don't think he has true feelings for Lois anymore. I pretty much hope that if there's another season they just let Clois go and don't explore it. Lois doesn't need to be second choice, and that's how it will look. I'm sure of it.

[eas]

I have to say that I agree that Clark did come to the realization that he could have it all with Lana now. I feel that there's going to be a time (probably in Power as he's rewatching the video from Arctic) when Clark realizes that even if he can have it all with Lana, he won't want it because he knows that there could be problems in the future. I also agree that there hasn't been a situation where Lois has been the choice between saving the world and being with her. But maybe his brush with being a celebrity in Infamous and Lois' reaction (if she has one) will make him realize that she can be that peson in his life.

I also agree with you about finding it difficult to deal with Lois. With the Lana situation, he's trying to handle it, but he's not really taking Lana's feelings into consideration. Even after Lana said that she wouldn't be around for a while, he said that he didn't care if she stayed for ten years or until tomorrow because they could have it now. He didn't really give Lana the chance to tell him how badly the world needs him. She hasn't gotten the chance to pour her feelings out to Clark like she tried to do in her video. But then again, maybe it's supposed to happen like this, so she can say it in Power and they can take steps to their break up.

Well put and good points. We're definitely going to have to see how this plays out... "Power" should be a defining episode for them.

[rysamad]

Really, I dont see this Clark Kent in SMALLVILLE falling in love with another person...

AND the most incredible thing is every single person in SV have to pimp Clois. I'm confused! If it was so obvious like Chloe said today... why they have to say it??? EVEN CHLOE!! I thought she loved/like Clark more than friends.

Well, when we talk about Clana in SV, you dont need words for that, just re-watch this episode and you get the right person for Clark. I didnt say that, it was Clark choosing Lana!!!

[Iluvgreen]

It was icky icky gross nastiness!!!! I was gaging!

[eas]

Yes, indeed. Sad, but true.

I don't think he has true feelings for Lois anymore. I pretty much hope that if there's another season they just let Clois go and don't explore it. Lois doesn't need to be second choice, and that's how it will look. I'm sure of it.

I think his feelings for her are true... but he just doesn't know what they are.

One of the most telling things in that Chlark convo was that he couldn't describe Lois. This is a direct contrast to every other instance where he's had to describe Lois and he's had a handy retort and sarcastic quip at hand. This time? He was speechless... it was almost CanonClois like... that Superman doesn't quite know how to describe his wife.

Chloe figured it out that he couldn't find the words and so she supplied, "Lois?" And he took the lifeline.

The problem isn't that he doesn't have feelings for Lois. The problem is that he has leftover feelings for Lana and he wants to resolve them before even thinking about Lois... he cares for Lana more because of the history and the confusing way things ended between them. So, he thinks that the whole Lana things can't wait (and you can't just turn off love like that, can you?) and that Lois can wait.

Lois, my guess is, will have different perspective on this when she gets back and her attitude will be: "Yeah, I wait for no one." And, then, he'll have regrets.

[Iluvgreen]

I think his feelings for her are true... but he just doesn't know what they are.

One of the most telling things in that Chlark convo was that he couldn't describe Lois. This is a direct contrast to every other instance where he's had to describe Lois and he's had a handy retort and sarcastic quip at hand. This time? He was speechless... it was almost CanonClois like... that Superman doesn't quite know how to describe his wife.

Chloe figured it out that he couldn't find the words and so she supplied, "Lois?" And he took the lifeline.

The problem isn't that he doesn't have feelings for Lois. The problem is that he has leftover feelings for Lana and he wants to resolve them before even thinking about Lois... he cares for Lana more because of the history and the confusing way things ended between them. So, he thinks that the whole Lana things can't wait (and you can't just turn off love like that, can you?) and that Lois can wait.

Lois, my guess is, will have different perspective on this when she gets back and her attitude will be: "Yeah, I wait for no one." And, then, he'll have regrets.


I absolutely agree with you. We need to let Clark get over his leftover feelings.... Then we can have our Clois. But I don't know if Lois will be like I wait for no one. I think she'll be watching her step so that she doesn't get hurt.

[Kreukie]

DeKnight even said it on lana-clark.net that Smallville was built with the idea of Clana in mind and Lana being the main girl for Clark on the series from start to finish.

I honestly believe if Kristin signed on for this season, there wouldn't be any Clois whatsoever in this season and if Kristin signed on for an 9th, the same thing would had happened.

Clois on this series is the fall back of no Lana, IMO.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

im a cloiser and i really dont see why others are that angry they kissed it was bound to happen and i don't think lois will be second choice, i think the secert in power will piss ck off that both lana and chloe are keeping secerts still and he will see some things just don't change, i think lois will be a in his life and he will fall because of that but from lois stand point i think she has lost feelings for him and then it will be vise versa but the eppy was cool not a lana fan but she kicked but until tess threw her through glass. im intersted in how this will play out! I love lois as a character and clois so i do want to see next week eppy not clana but everybody deserves closure and they will get it sorry for spelling but just tired and have to work tomorrow which sucks ass a whole lot!)

ITA with you! Personally, I think that kiss will benefit Clois later on...but right now, I'm just enjoying Smallville and waiting to see what twists and turns they have in store for us, cause this season is awesome and this epi was great.

[amberdawn]

I think his feelings for her are true

It's kinda hard for me to believe that right now. The whole thing has been tainted for me. Like I said in another thread, if they decide to explore Clark's side of things, it's not gonna be believable for me. I wish it wasn't that way.

doodie, I'm not angry that they kissed, I'm not angry at all. I knew it was coming. I'm disappointed with how it's been handled, but it was my fault in the first place for ever actually thinking it'd be handled differently.

[llk6165]

Riiight. Clark has fallen hard for Lois. I can see that. :lol:

Usually I'm not that mean but dudes we didn't started it.


I don't think that sounds mean at all.

[Hmm]

what did lois ever done to deserve clarks love ? hmmm, lets see ..

did she always come back to clark no matter how much he hurt her and after all the lies ?
did she made a decision that will affect her whole life just to protect clark ? (like marrying somebody else?)
did she ever play any part in clarks life to help him to be the hero he is now ?
did she continue to love him after learning he is an alien?
did she die to protect clarks secret!? (100th episode?)
i can continue but you get the idea..
hmm, i dont think that was lois..

maybe you want clois because of the mythos or maybe you think clois have better chemisty but dont claim that you want clois because lois deserves clark.. anyone can see who deserves clark..

[Kreukie]

what did lois ever done to deserve clarks love ? hmmm, lets see ..

did she always come back to clark no matter how much he hurt her and after all the lies ?
did she made a decision that will affect her whole life just to protect clark ? (like marrying somebody else?)
did she ever play any part in clarks life to help him to be the hero he is now ?
did she continue to love him after learning he is an alien?
did she die to protect clarks secret!? (100th episode?)
i can continue but you get the idea..
hmm, i dont think that was lois..

maybe you want clois because of the mythos or maybe you think clois have better chemisty but dont claim that you want clois because lois deserves clark.. anyone can see who deserves clark..

IMO, Chloe deserves Clark more than Lois does. Really, the question is, what has Lois done to deserve Clark?

Clark done more for her then she done for him.

All Lois has done really is baked a cake for Clark. :rotfl:

[minerva73]

what did lois ever done to deserve clarks love ? hmmm, lets see ..

did she always come back to clark no matter how much he hurt her and after all the lies ?
did she made a decision that will affect her whole life just to protect clark ? (like marrying somebody else?)
did she ever play any part in clarks life to help him to be the hero he is now ?
did she continue to love him after learning he is an alien?
did she die to protect clarks secret!? (100th episode?)
i can continue but you get the idea..
hmm, i dont think that was lois..

maybe you want clois because of the mythos or maybe you think clois have better chemisty but dont claim that you want clois because lois deserves clark.. anyone can see who deserves clark..

The biggest question is:
Has Lois gotten the chance to be in any of those situations?

No. Because Clark doesn't want to hurt her by telling her his secret. All of your questions only apply to Lana AFTER she found out his secret. Because if those are the requirements for deserving Clark, then in Seasons 1-6, Lana didn't deserve Clark one bit.

[j-peezy]

to quote the OP "I am pretty disgusted right now" I honestly had Clark-like levels of faith that Lana's presence wasn't going to be a bad thing after all. Last week supported my hope, only to have it brought down harder than the Hinderburg, in the same smoldering, flaming heap. damn... there's no denying it anymore

Lana IS pink Kryptonite


Uhhh, yah. Clark should whip out the led.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

The biggest question is:
Has Lois gotten the chance to be in any of those situations?

No. Because Clark doesn't want to hurt her by telling her his secret. All of your questions only apply to Lana AFTER she found out his secret. Because if those are the requirements for deserving Clark, then in Seasons 1-6, Lana didn't deserve Clark one bit.

Agreed!

[AndiGirl]

Alright...
Now...I HATE admitting this. But, I re-watched the kiss....and it was actually quite the sweet scene *Please dont throw rotten fruit at me!!*

It was light and sweet....no drama really. Just two people laying it all out there. If Clana had been written like that years ago...I may not have hated it.

That being said...I still think the two of them together is a bad idea, but as for the scene...it really was a nice moment. :)

[Kreukie]

Because if those are the requirements for deserving Clark, then in Seasons 1-6, Lana didn't deserve Clark one bit.

All those requirements are things Lana did for Clark through season 1-6. So I'm confused with your responds.

[celita]

I loved the last three seconds :p

[Clana4Life]

Well, obviously we Clana fans are happy tonight! Thanks TPTB. I know we only have two more episodes with Lana, but I felt like we got our cake and icing tonight. No matter what happens after these two episodes, it is almost cemented that Clark will always love/be in-love with this woman. Her coming back is "just like she never left." When the guy asked him if there was anyone back home who made fighting for the greater good worthwhile, he went to Lana. Per SV, this is the couple, she is his soulmate. He is very much in love with her - so much so that he would put the world second to her. Sorry, Lois is the point (just like Chloe said) in this triangle. If anyone will be hurt it is her. But lucky for her Lana will be gone soon, so no competition there. Still, TPTB will have a hard time proving that Clois is not the fall back/second choice now. The best part of the episode was the very beginning (Clana scene) and the very end (Clana scene). :)

[Kalista]

Alright...
Now...I HATE admitting this. But, I re-watched the kiss....and it was actually quite the sweet scene *Please dont throw rotten fruit at me!!*

I didn't see the end of the kiss but I have to agree with you from what I saw.

[Kreukie]

Well, obviously we Clana fans are happy tonight! Thanks TPTB. I know we only have two more episodes with Lana, but I felt like we got our cake and icing tonight. No matter what happens after these two episodes, it is almost cemented that Clark will always love/be in-love with this woman. Her coming back is "just like she never left." When the guy asked him if there was anyone back home who made fighting for the greater good worthwhile, he went to Lana. Per SV, this is the couple, she is his soulmate. He is very much in love with her - so much so that he would put the world second to her. Sorry, Lois is the point (just like Chloe said) in this triangle. If anyone will be hurt it is her. But lucky for her Lana will be gone soon, so no competition there. Still, TPTB will have a hard time proving that Clois is not the fall back/second choice now. The best part of the episode was the very beginning (Clana scene) and the very end (Clana scene). :)

This series was always meant to be about Clana, hence the series' title-- SMALLVILLE.

Lana is the it girl in SMALLVILLE, this isn't Lois & Clark or Superman Returns, this is SMALLVILLE.

[Hmm]

The biggest question is:
Has Lois gotten the chance to be in any of those situations?

No. Because Clark doesn't want to hurt her by telling her his secret. All of your questions only apply to Lana AFTER she found out his secret. Because if those are the requirements for deserving Clark, then in Seasons 1-6, Lana didn't deserve Clark one bit.

i did not say those were the requirements to deserve clark, as you can clearly see i just counted some reasons why lana deserves clark and i asked what lois has ever done to deserve clark..

[minerva73]

All those requirements are things Lana did for Clark through season 1-6. So I'm confused with your responds.

You're right. The "6" should be actually be a "4". She did do a handful of those things in S5 and S6.


i did not say those were the requirements to deserve clark, as you can clearly see i just counted some reasons why lana deserves clark and i asked what lois has ever done to deserve clark..

That's why I'm confused about the comparison. Lois hasn't been in half of those situations, so the levels that she deserves Clark on are different when placed side to side against your reasons that Lana deserves Clark (which I'm not saying are wrong).

[j-peezy]

The biggest question is:
Has Lois gotten the chance to be in any of those situations?

No. Because Clark doesn't want to hurt her by telling her his secret. All of your questions only apply to Lana AFTER she found out his secret. Because if those are the requirements for deserving Clark, then in Seasons 1-6, Lana didn't deserve Clark one bit.


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Clark never deserved LANA! He was a coward when it came to her more often than not. I recall feeling so sad for Lana in S5 after Clark broke up with her. And even though he loves Lana...in my mind he doesn't treat her the way she deserves. And he's so up and down and all around...it's not fair, it's not right. Totally unhealthy emotions there....for both of them. But, I must admit that the two of them have that entertaining Buffy/Angel chemistry....love/passion and gloom/doom. It's hot. But not good for Superman.

[Ayanne]

IMO, Chloe deserves Clark more than Lois does. Really, the question is, what has Lois done to deserve Clark?

Clark done more for her then she done for him.

All Lois has done really is baked a cake for Clark. :rotfl:

She steals his stories, she runs to him about a job, that her cousin was unfairly fired from... She made out with Grant Gabriel on the office desk?

Truthfully, this is Smallville, & at least Lana & Clark have history & credibility. I would rather see that respected, than all the lame lightswitches & insta-wuv of EDLois.

[Promise]

I
I'm sure there are Clana fans out there hanging on to the hope, but you all know she will be gone and even if KK DOES get some episodes last season (assuming there IS a next season) you all have to know that the writers without AlMiles around are getting ready to end the romantic Clana. At least you'll get an end on a high note, that's something. Because I don't think they are going to trash it, even though some non-Clana fans would probably like that, but I think they are going to end it in a way that isn't so horrible.


Exactly. Clana deserves it, since the 2nd half of reckoning, Clana has been all over the place, but then the episode Promise brought that passion back between them. Anyways, as a Clana fan, that's all I been asking for, end Clana right and I'm getting that, and then some(meaning the kisses):D


Also it seems to me, for the Clois's, that Smallville is still on sweeps week break, what since 11/20/2008?:rotfl:

kidding, had to throw that in there.

[Kreukie]

She steals his stories, she runs to him about a job, that her cousin was unfairly fired from... She made out with Grant Gabriel on the office desk?

Truthfully, this is Smallville, & at least Lana & Clark have history & credibility. I would rather see that respected, than the all the lame lightswitches & insta-wuv of EDLois.

:rotfl:

Don't forget, lived off of his family and complained the whole time she was there! :lol:

[christina]

WOW!! Some people are angry in here!! :lol: the kiss was hot! is all I gotta say.

[Kreukie]

That's why I'm confused about the comparison. Lois hasn't been in half of those situations,

Hence the question-- "why does Lois deserve Clark?" When she hasn't done anything to be rewarded that title.

[j-peezy]

DeKnight even said it on lana-clark.net that Smallville was built with the idea of Clana in mind and Lana being the main girl for Clark on the series from start to finish.

I honestly believe if Kristin signed on for this season, there wouldn't be any Clois whatsoever in this season and if Kristin signed on for an 9th, the same thing would had happened.

Clois on this series is the fall back of no Lana, IMO.


First, lemme say that DeKnight is one of my fave writers. The funniest (and sometimes korniest, but I like 'em) Smallville's are the ones by Steven S. DeKnight and Drew Z. Greenberg. Loved 'em on Buffy and Angel. Love 'em on Smallville. And BTW, DeKnight has said many times that he "never gets tired of a Clark and Lana scene" (we all have to admit that KK and TW have awesome chemistry...don't lie...you know you feel it everytime) Is that biased? I dunno....

But, I will agree and say that there probably wouldn't be much Clois if Lana was a fulltimer. Nevertheless, I think the fat lady needs to sing. Lana is leaving and Clark needs to come to terms at some point in time on the show. Now or never baby!

[Bre723]

Ehh, the kiss was hott, but it's just clana, some old, same old...isn't really new and exciting anymore.
but i'm not a Clana hater.

[j-peezy]

:d
wow!! Some people are angry in here!! :lol: The kiss was hot! Is all i gotta say.
:d:d:d

yes yes. Hot kiss. :d

[Alwaysforever]

I have to say I really liked this episode and Clark in a Police Uniform OMG wow I wouldn't mind speeding if he pulled me over it'd be worth it. I really liked the closing scene of the episode I thought that it was really beautiful. It was very tender. I loved how for once Clark had the guts to do something. He was so honest with everything he said to Lana. The old Clark would have agreed and not press on when Lana said how the world 'needs him', but this Clark he did what he wanted he did what was in his heart. I just thought it was a very tender scene between these two. And anyone who say's that there wasn't chemistry in it clearly is not watching the same thing as me.

[j-peezy]

Ehh, the kiss was hott, but it's just clana, some old, same old...isn't really new and exciting anymore.
but i'm not a Clana hater.


Whatever. :p When TW kisses KK...don't ask me why...but he's way more into it...and that's hot! Maybe it's cuz they both have those nice full lips???? Either way...yummy.

And I'm not a clana either...or a clois...just a CK-lover. And I find that I am now a Lana-Fu fan too. She needs her own show!!!!

[Clana4Life]

I have to say I really liked this episode and Clark in a Police Uniform OMG wow I wouldn't mind speeding if he pulled me over it'd be worth it. I really liked the closing scene of the episode I thought that it was really beautiful. It was very tender. I loved how for once Clark had the guts to do something. He was so honest with everything he said to Lana. The old Clark would have agreed and not press on when Lana said how the world 'needs him', but this Clark he did what he wanted he did what was in his heart. I just thought it was a very tender scene between these two. And anyone who say's that there wasn't chemistry in it clearly is not watching the same thing as me.


You are so right. I didn't even think about that. Clark did stand up for what he wanted. The old Clark would have backed down and said "you're right Lana. the world needs me more," but this Clark stood up and basically said "I want you and I know you want me too." I'm impressed. Clark has matured. He's fighting for what he wants. Clark is going after Lana and trying. The ball is in her court now. Come on Lana, win one for the team.

[celita]

The best part of the kiss. Credit to Trisha
:lol:

http://i39.tinypic.com/1pe3bk.gif

akkkkwwarddddddddd

[Alwaysforever]

See I don't see that ^ as being awkward

[celita]

well its not I am so happy either....I can't wait for Power!!!

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See I don't see that ^ as being awkward

not akwrad for them....akward cause its not the usual post Iwuv you kiss face

[Clana4Life]

See I don't see that ^ as being awkward

Me neither. It looks as though he is questioning her as if asking, "Can we try again. Can we put us before the world."

[Kreukie]

well its not I am so happy either....I can't wait for Power!!!

Looks like they're in awe of each other... like "WOW". Lana has her mouth dropped open and Clark's eyes are eye [insert bad word here] her. :eek:

[celita]

I think both are wondering why it doesn't fell the same, theya re going to work trhough that on Power and ended it right there and on the last esoidoe theya re going to be friends

[Alwaysforever]

Me neither. It looks as though he is questioning her as if asking, "Can we try again. Can we put us before the world."

Yea exactly it's almost as if as soon as they pull apart they both are looking at each other thinking 'even after time away from each other it's still there'

[celita]

Looks like they're in awe of each other... like "WOW". Lana has her mouth dropped open and Clark's eyes are eye [insert bad word here] her. :eek:

if that awe.....well Clana its a weird creepy couple...but well we already knew that....they think they are 14......enough say:rotfl:

[Cogito17]

I disagree with the idea that some people expressed about this being a "step back".

Earlier this season MM warned Clark about his desire to save people becoming an obsession. In this episode, we see Clark figuring out that while saving people is a huge responsibility and priority, he will be able to learn to balance it with a regular life. Once again, Lana is brought in as his "training wheels" to learn about balancing the life of a superhero with his regular life, as opposed to the all-consuming superhero life he had been leading up to this point.

[Clana4Life]

if that awe.....well Clana its a weird creepy couple...but well we already knew that....they think they are 14......enough say:rotfl:

I guess we'll agree to disagree. It didn't look awkward to me. Even a bunch of Cloisers have said they looked very into it. But perceptions are different. Even if you take out the kiss though, you still have the fact that Clark went to Lana after his conversation with the Clark. SHe's the one who makes it all worth while. After all of this time he said it feels as though she never left. So even without the kiss, we still have those strong feelings.

[Alwaysforever]

if that awe.....well Clana its a weird creepy couple...but well we already knew that....they think they are 14......enough say:rotfl:

They don't think that are fourteen again, but with both of them being at the Talon were everything started off it was like a flashback to them of their younger years. Lana even said they aren't fourteen anymore.

[Kevin24]

My first impression of that look is that something isn't right. It looked as if Clark and Lana both felt like they had done something wrong.

I saw it more from Clark's end that he seemed like he had done something wrong or like it just wasn't the same anymore.

[Kalista]

I disagree with the idea that some people expressed about this being a "step back".

Earlier this season MM warned Clark about his desire to save people becoming an obsession. In this episode, we see Clark figuring out that while saving people is a huge responsibility and priority, he will be able to learn to balance it with a regular life. Once again, Lana is brought in as his "training wheels" to learn about balancing the life of a superhero with his regular life, as opposed to the all-consuming superhero life he had been leading up to this point.


Excellent post and I agree.

[AndiGirl]

The best part of the kiss. Credit to Trisha
:lol:

http://i39.tinypic.com/1pe3bk.gif

akkkkwwarddddddddd

Yea...I dont see the awkwardness. Just both of them questioning if they are making the right move.

He kind of looks like he's ready for seconds if you ask me.. :lol:
Which trust me, not what I wanted to see at all.....but I can admitt it.

[Clana4Life]

Yea...I dont see the awkwardness. Just both of them questioning if they are making the right move.

He kind of looks like he's ready for seconds if you ask me.. :lol:
Which trust me, not what I wanted to see at all.....but I can admitt it.

At least you're honest! And yay, love your avatar. I'm a big Chlavis fan! :)

[celita]

a bunch of cloisers and NON cloisers also pinted ouut the look on both faces being weird after the kiss. So please don't go and throw nthe "buch in cloisers" reason cause some of us and as I said some non cloisers actually agree about this.

I never denyed he went for it...in fact a "bunch" of us noticed that we are not that blind but for a "bunch" of us the aftermath was weird.

Lets see how this is resolved on the enxt episode and then we can talk.

I am going to quote my firnd Lois Lane "even when feelings are back in for a moment you know that you broke up for a reason" or something among those lines

So Clana will have thier "test" drive that well it started but the engine is failing alrwady and then they are going to realize that they doesn't want to be on that car after all.

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My first impression of that look is that something isn't right. It looked as if Clark and Lana both felt like they had done something wrong.

I saw it more from Clark's end that he seemed like he had done something wrong or like it just wasn't the same anymore.

welcome to this "bunch" gald you are joining us :D

[AndiGirl]

At least you're honest! And yay, love your avatar. I'm a big Chlavis fan! :)

I try to be honest when I can. :lol:
Why thank you!! :) I love Chlavis too!

[celita]

At least you're honest!
eh what's that suppose to mean?¨the "at least"? you think that we are actually seeing the "love" but we don't ell it and disguised with the "akward" adjetive?

Cuas e sorry the "at least" comment was like "you are the only one being honest here"

[AndiGirl]

a bunch of cloisers and NON cloisers also pinted ouut the look on both faces being weird after the kiss. So please don't go and throw nthe "buch in cloisers" reason cause some of us and as I said some non cloisers actually agree about this.

I never denyed he went for it...in fact a "bunch" of us noticed that we are not that blind but for a "bunch" of us the aftermath was weird.

Lets see how this is resolved on the enxt episode and then we can talk.

I am going to quote my firnd Lois Lane "even when feelings are back in for a moment you know that you broke up for a reason" or something among those lines

So Clana will have thier "test" drive that well it started but the engine is failing alrwady and then they are going to realize that they doesn't want to be on that car after all.

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welcome to this "bunch" gald you are joining us :D


No need for everyone to get worked up. :)
People see things differently...no crime there.
Some saw a questioning look...others saw fear and doubt. I guess it all depends on how you look at it.

I think we all know Clana isnt sticking Just incase some ppl dont know Kristen is gone in a few more episodes I put spoiler tags So there's really no point arguing.

Lets let the Clana shippers enjoy their moments. :)

[Shadowlord367]

To be fair, I don't think you can expect Lana to just walk back into Clark's life, and have Clark feel totally at peace with a platonic friendship with her. She was his first love, and they endured a great deal together. And even when she left she made it clear that she did and always will love Clark.

So, I think that we should wait till the arc concludes itself before we make judgements on it.

After all, if you walked in halfway through surgery, it would look like murder.

[Hmm]

I think both are wondering why it doesn't fell the same, theya re going to work trhough that on Power and ended it right there and on the last esoidoe theya re going to be friends

wow, that must be your dream :rotfl:

[celita]

No need for everyone to get worked up. :)
People see things differently...no crime there.
Some saw a questioning look...others saw fear and doubt. I guess it all depends on how you look at it.

I think we all know Clana isnt sticking Just incase some ppl dont know Kristen is gone in a few more episodes I put spoiler tags So there's really no point arguing.

Let the Clana shippers enjoy their moments. :)

No you get me wrong, I know ppeople in fact watch things differently, we are all different if we all think the same it would be kind of dull. I just didn't like the "well....some cloisers think this...."
ooook you know we could all liek the same ship but we all see things differently we are not zombie cloisers:rotfl:

[Clana4Life]

eh what's that suppose to mean?¨the "at least"? you think that we are actually seeing the "love" but we don't ell it and disguised with the "akward" adjetive?

Cuas e sorry the "at least" comment was like "you are the only one being honest here"

Well, the quote was directed to AndiGirl, so I don't really know that I have to explain to anyone else since it was in direct reference to her post. I actually quoted her post within my own response. And I don't know what collective bunch you are referencing when you say "we" - i.e., "you think that we are are actually seeing..." This just reminds me of Star Trek "We are the Borg. We are one."

Anyway, I digressed. Since you asked and since I'm willing to explain, I was referring to her being honest with herself about what she saw.

[celita]

wow, that must be your dream :rotfl:

Yes and its quite nice actually, like it some that DC its going to change the mythos and make Clana live forever together-

Get out of my brain !!!:cool:

[AndiGirl]

No you get me wrong, I know ppeople in fact watch things differently, we are all different if we all think the same it would be kind of dull. I just didn't like the "well....some cloisers think this...."
ooook you know we could all liek the same ship but we all see things differently we are not zombie cloisers:rotfl:

Oh then yes, ITA! :lol:
I'm a cloiser...and a chlarker...and a chlaviser. So, I pretty much have NO rules of conduct...and everyone thinks I'm a traitor. :lol:

So there's proof we all most certainly dont think the same ways. :p

[celita]

Well, the quote was directed to AndiGirl, so I don't really know that I have to explain to anyone else since it was in direct reference to her post. I actually quoted her post within my own response. And I don't know what collective bunch you are referencing when you say "we" - i.e., "you think that we are are actually seeing..." This just reminds me of Star Trek "We are the Borg. We are one."

Anyway, I digressed. Since you asked and since I'm willing to explain, I was referring to her being honest with herself about what she saw.
well for you we are "bunch of cloisers" that think this and "Bunch of Cloisers that think that" so I am only speaking for you to understand that the other "bunch" has a different perception of the aftermanth of the kiss

[SmallvilleMan]

Lol, they both looked awkward..........Tell me what's the difference between this kiss and all the other ones they had? The answer is nothing. This whole "they looked different and awkward" or whatever is silly. It's not about what you look like after the kiss, but it's about the kiss itself, which they were both very much into. And this all after Clark asking someone if they could balence the life between family and duty. Who was Clark thinking of when he asked that? I'll give you one guess.;)

[celita]

Oh then yes, ITA! :lol:
I'm a cloiser...and a chlarker...and a chlaviser. So, I pretty much have NO rules of conduct...and everyone thinks I'm a traitor. :lol:

So there's proof we all most certainly dont think the same ways. :p

Its kind of cool being a multishipper....I am but I can't be a Cloiser and being a Calicia for example or a Cloiser and a Lollier....

I am: Cloiser, Jasaner (come on Jason was a blast), a Chimmy althought I always though Chloe its better with Bart :p, a Dollier etc

[Alwaysforever]

Yea exactly. The point is he kissed her and she kissed him back. People are saying they flame died out between these two, but I say it's burning white hot.

[Mad Madam Mimm]

I am crossing my fingers that at the beginning of next week's episode, we will see Clark waking up in bed after a bad Clana dream. It took everything I had not to start banging my head against a wall and yelling "Why? Why? WHY????"

[Alwaysforever]

Its kind of cool being a multishipper....I am but I can't be a Cloiser and being a Calicia for example or a Cloiser and a Lollier....

I am: Cloiser, Jasaner (come on Jason was a blast), a Chimmy althought I always though Chloe its better with Bart :p, a Dollier etc

ha ha lol I actually thought Chloe and Bart would have been good together.

[celita]

I am crossing my fingers that at the beginning of next week's episode, we will see Clark waking up in bed after a bad Clana dream. It took everything I had not to start banging my head against a wall and yelling "Why? Why? WHY????"

I knwo the feeling I was going to hit my head agains the monitor but then the "look" came and I was owwwwwwwww:rotfl: thank god

[trojan20]

How in the world is there going to be Clois after tonight's episode?

one word=REBOUND!;)

[SmallvilleMan]

Yea exactly. The point is he kissed her and she kissed him back. People are saying they flame died out between these two, but I say it's burning white hot.

Who ever said the flame died out between them is missing something or just a hater. All you have to do is watch one scene between them to notice something.

[Hmm]

Lol, they both looked awkward..........Tell me what's the difference between this kiss and all the other ones they had? The answer is nothing. This whole "they looked different and awkward" or whatever is silly. It's not about what you look like after the kiss, but it's about the kiss itself, which they were both very much into. And this all after Clark asking someone if they could balence the life between family and duty. Who was Clark thinking of when he asked that? I'll give you one guess.;)

lois of course, but since he could not find her and since he don't have super abilities that can help him find her like in seconds, he had to settle for lana. :lol:

[celita]

one word=REBOUND!;)

awww nice we are sharing dreams now!!!!!!!!:rotfl:

I thought the one "brain travel" was going on in mine. I feel like in Dr Phill!!!

[SmallvilleMan]

lois of course, but since he could not find her and since he don't have super abilities that can help him find her like in seconds, he had to settle for lana

Hahahaha, yea and Clark really just went to the talon for coffee.:p

[AndiGirl]

Its kind of cool being a multishipper....I am but I can't be a Cloiser and being a Calicia for example or a Cloiser and a Lollier....

I am: Cloiser, Jasaner (come on Jason was a blast), a Chimmy althought I always though Chloe its better with Bart :p, a Dollier etc

Yep, I just see chemistry between everyone! Thats my problem! :lol:
I think it's silly ships feel the need to fight...especially when I'm practically a fan of all the ships out there.

[celita]

btw since tonight I am a Tesex...se sounds dirtily wonderfoul already

[AndiGirl]

ha ha lol I actually thought Chloe and Bart would have been good together.

I know, werent they so cute!?!?
"Chloelicious!!" :lol:
Oh crud...here I go again, another ship to add to the pile!

But back on topic. I think Clana was sweet tonight. And we're all going to see what we want. So seriously.....why fight? I dont get it.

It's like politics...you're never going to change someone else's mind. So let it go. ;)

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btw since tonight I am a Tesex...se sounds dirtily wonderfoul already

:rotfl: It really does!

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

I know, werent they so cute!?!?
"Chloelicious!!" :lol:
Oh crud...here I go again, another ship to add to the pile!

But back on topic. I think Clana was sweet tonight. And we're all going to see what we want. So seriously.....why fight? I dont get it.

It's like politics...you're never going to change someone else's mind. So let it go. ;)

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:rotfl: It really does!

yep, let's just go with the flow.