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celita
01-22-2009, 10:01 PM
just want to clearify that I just was stating my opinion about the aftrer kiss, not about the kiss itslef...I dont care about the kiss....been there done that.....but for my and seeing that i am not the only one the after kiss was really weird

Mad Madam Mimm
01-22-2009, 10:02 PM
I knwo the feeling I was going to hit my head agains the monitor but then the "look" came and I was owwwwwwwww:rotfl: thank god

The crazy part is that I have always been (well almost always, I deviated in S6-7) a fan of Clana. I like their dynamic together, but man, I am ready for Clark to move in another direction (just wish there were a few less anvils - they hurt!)

Still... I am reserving judgment (and throwing my TV out the window) until next week.

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btw since tonight I am a Tesex...se sounds dirtily wonderfoul already

It sounds way better than "Less" :rotfl:

AndiGirl
01-22-2009, 10:04 PM
just want to clearify that I just was stating my opinion about the aftrer kiss, not about the kiss itslef...I dont care about the kiss....been there done that.....but for my and seeing that i am not the only one the after kiss was really weird

Oh I know. :)
A lot of people saw the awkwardness you did.

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yep, let's just go with the flow.

Exactly! :)

celita
01-22-2009, 10:05 PM
The crazy part is that I have always been (well almost always, I deviated in S6-7) a fan of Clana. I like their dynamic together, but man, I am ready for Clark to move in another direction (just wish there were a few less anvils - they hurt!)

Still... I am reserving judgment (and throwing my TV out the window) until next week.
I am waiting too I was one of the people that though this was going to suck but maaaann I was wrong...except for the wolrd won't go first crap-we are 14-lets kiss again bs I pretty much enjoyed the episode especially then end

SmallvilleMan
01-22-2009, 10:15 PM
but for my and seeing that i am not the only one the after kiss was really weird

And the weird part was what? Clark looking into her eyes? Did you think he transformed into bizarro:lol:

SVsleuth
01-22-2009, 10:18 PM
I loved it! I loved that Clark was taking a serious look at how the cops have a family & still go out to save the world every day. And he began to wonder why it can't be that way for him too. As he said, "Maybe it doesn't have to be all or nothing." I loved that when Danny asked Clark if he had someone special, Clark thought immediately of Lana & went to seek her out. It's ALWAYS been Lana who inspires him to develop his abilities and to use them to help others. It's always been Lana that he wanted to protect; always been Lana for whom he wanted to make the world a better place.

I love the playful start to the Clana conversation, and then how Clark comes right to the point, asking Lana why she's staying, knowing it is because she likes being near him - NEEDS him. I love how he takes the risk, goes for it, and leans in for the kiss - and how Lana willingly kisses him back. It's been a long time since they've really kissed - since Wrath, when they did a whole lot more than that.

I'm looking forward to the Clana kiss next week as well. And I'm eager to know what reason they're going to come up with that will cause Lana to be gone for good, & Clark to fall for Lois so quickly after she's gone.

I have to say that my expectatios for the Clana this season were very low, & this is better than I expected we'd get, so I'm very happy with it.

Clana4Life
01-22-2009, 10:19 PM
He was practically asking Lana to marry him. Clark was so nervous. It was really sweet. He really wants to try again. I wish Clark could get his heart's desire.

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I loved it! I loved that Clark was taking a serious look at how the cops have a family & still go out to save the world every day. And he began to wonder why it can't be that way for him too. As he said, "Maybe it doesn't have to be all or nothing." I loved that when Danny asked Clark if he had someone special, Clark thought immediately of Lana & went to seek her out. It's ALWAYS been Lana who inspires him to develop his abilities and to use them to help others. It's always been Lana that he wanted to protect; always been Lana for whom he wanted to make the world a better place.

I love the playful start to the Clana conversation, and then how Clark comes right to the point, asking Lana why she's staying, knowing it is because she likes being near him - NEEDS him. I love how he takes the risk, goes for it, and leans in for the kiss - and how Lana willingly kisses him back. It's been a long time since they've really kissed - since Wrath, when they did a whole lot more than that.

I'm looking forward to the Clana kiss next week as well. And I'm eager to know what reason they're going to come up with that will cause Lana to be gone for good, & Clark to fall for Lois so quickly after she's gone.

I have to say that my expectatios for the Clana this season were very low, & this is better than I expected we'd get, so I'm very happy with it.


Hey, it's about time you showed up! :) It's always a pleasure to read your posts and Clana has been great this year. I think Clark will be lightswitched after Lana leaves. He's too in to her to suddenly fall out of love with her in two episodes.

SmallvilleMan
01-22-2009, 10:29 PM
Dammit Sv, you and your happy, optimistic thoughts.......I love them, but then they get me high and smallville brings them down:mad:

Alwaysforever
01-22-2009, 10:29 PM
I wish Clark could get his heart's desire to and that's Lana no matter what anyone says it's Lana. I wish they would have ended Smallville with the main three Clark, Lex and Lana it started with the main three and it should end with them.

Clana4Life
01-22-2009, 10:31 PM
I wish Clark could get his heart's desire to and that's Lana no matter what anyone says it's Lana. I wish they would have ended Smallville with the main three Clark, Lex and Lana it started with the main three and it should end with them.

I think both Lex and Lana will be back for the series finale. So hopefully we'll get to see them all again.

Alwaysforever
01-22-2009, 10:34 PM
Yea I hope so that would be great to see. I've always wanted them to connect the pilot to the series finale. In the pilot when Lana asks Clark "so what are you man or superman" I'd love if they had her say something along the lines of "i guess you answered my question your not just a man your Superman" something like that, but better.

Clana4Life
01-22-2009, 10:39 PM
Yea I hope so that would be great to see. I've always wanted them to connect the pilot to the series finale. In the pilot when Lana asks Clark "so what are you man or superman" I'd love if they had her say something along the lines of "i guess you answered my question your not just a man your Superman" something like that, but better.

Where do you want Clana's last scene to end this year? KK leaves in two episodes. I was trying to think of a really memorable setting for them to have their last scene. So far we've had the loft, the front porch and now the Talon. Maybe the high school football team where they first screamed or the graveyard where they had their first real talk. What do you think?

Alwaysforever
01-22-2009, 10:43 PM
thats really tough the graveyard scene basically started it all off with out that conversation they wouldn't have shared that connection, but what would get them to that. And then you have the loft were they have had all those memorable moments the good ones and the bad.

damara531
01-22-2009, 11:02 PM
You know I can't help but think that EVERY time Lana makes a re-appearance in Clark's life it sets him back. He was so close in this episode to finally realizing his potential and coming to terms with the depth of his feelings for Lois...he was so close that it hurts my head to think about how far away from that he'll be again after tonight's nauseating display.

Clana4Life
01-22-2009, 11:08 PM
You know I can't help but think that EVERY time Lana makes a re-appearance in Clark's life it sets him back. He was so close in this episode to finally realizing his potential and coming to terms with the depth of his feelings for Lois...he was so close that it hurts my head to think about how far away from that he'll be again after tonight's nauseating display.

Why do you think he was so close? He didn't even mention Lois until Chloe brought her up.

Sunny8
01-22-2009, 11:38 PM
I loved it! The Clana kiss was well worth more than a seasons wait! :p

Didn't that kiss look awkward? They don't kiss well to me anymore. It looked passionless to me.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-22-2009, 11:38 PM
I know most people are disappointed, bt I didnt mind as much as I thought I would. I think Clark is just a little confused and needs to have his Lana once more to know for sure. Trust me..look at how he looked at her after the kiss;)

Sunny8
01-22-2009, 11:42 PM
A guy can love two women at the same time just like a woman can too. I guess CK just likes Lana a little more than Lois. When Lana dumps CK he will go to Lois, his second choice.
Nothing wrong with being stuck on someone that is still in love with him.
Loved the music they used for the last scene, I actually loved the last scene with Clana. CK wants that connection with Lana and she is still trying to push him away(she didnt have to say it in words) which she is still hiding something from him.

What makes you think Lois will accept him? Lois has been the love interest of billionaires. Clark (to her knowledge) is just a simple farm boy. She could get over him easily. Its not like they actually kissed or anything.

CLanaF23
01-22-2009, 11:43 PM
LOVED the Clana in this episode. it was like better..lana is so good for clark. and when the kissed at the end!! omg it was like it all just came backk. i felt the love. it was like when they first kissed it was like that finally feel..then i think they felt like they never left. loved it so hot!! ughh

CLANA! i honestly hate the writers for making you want clana for 7 seasons then in the end just throwing him with lois. such crap.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-22-2009, 11:46 PM
I for one didnt see 'love' during the Clana scenes.. I saw confusion and desperation to cling onto something that isnt there. I loved it:D:lol:

Sunny8
01-22-2009, 11:51 PM
...and yes we know he ends up with Lois, but it is Lana that teaches Clark how to love and have a relationship in the future.

I hope not because yikes!!! Lois is in for a lot of hell and angst.

fortress7081
01-22-2009, 11:52 PM
The kiss was not so good.Kinda akward.Were they tense??;)But anyway,still happy with the lines..;)

Sunny8
01-22-2009, 11:56 PM
No I'm talking about Clana being the main romantic couple since the beginning of this show.

Don't worry, Lois can have Clark again when Lana leaves. I'm sure he'll be lightswitched to notice her again. :lol:

Who wants Lana's leavings? If Clark has not matured to realize who Lois is then Clois should not take place on SV. He is too immature to be with her at this point. They never should have brought Lois on SV if they were going to mess over the legendary Lois/Clark relationship. They already messed on Clark Kent by making him such a pansy. Any fool would be wise not to mess with a legend.

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Well, Clark sure leaned in to kiss Lois in "Bride" no matter what happened afterward.

Which makes him look like a jerk. That is the point. If he is in love with Lana why kiss Lois? Why even make her and the audience think you have moved on? It makes Clark Kent look bad. Why would the writers do that to soon-to-be-Superman? They are messing with a legend which is not good.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 12:06 AM
Clark says before he kisses Lana that this year, he had to let go of everything and what if the world doesnt have to come first. Erm..like we havent heard such a statement before during a clana scene.lol.

He has been smiling and happier this year than ever. He knows this to his surprise. He's probably trying to figure out if this his 'new world'(lol) can have Lana in it and still make him happy. The answer will obviously b NO, since Lana will soon b packing her bags.

Of course the writer have to have him go through another clana 'real' go to realize this.

Sunny8
01-23-2009, 12:10 AM
Clana = 1

Clois = 0

Thank God. Clark is too much of a flake to be with Lois right now. Let Lana deal with him. She's used to all that drama and confusion (and part of why it happens).

gnovack
01-23-2009, 12:13 AM
The whole Lois and Clark is all wrong. [MOD EDIT]

Sunny8
01-23-2009, 12:16 AM
DeKnight even said it on lana-clark.net that Smallville was built with the idea of Clana in mind and Lana being the main girl for Clark on the series from start to finish.

I honestly believe if Kristin signed on for this season, there wouldn't be any Clois whatsoever in this season and if Kristin signed on for an 9th, the same thing would had happened.

Clois on this series is the fall back of no Lana, IMO.

Then they should never have brought Lois on the show at all. People could handle that. Not this constantly confused to-be-Superhero.

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When the guy asked him if there was anyone back home who made fighting for the greater good worthwhile, he went to Lana.

Who else did he have to go to? Shelby? Mom's gone, Chloe's married, Lois is in Star City. He had to go to Lana by default.

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Originally Posted by Kreukie
DeKnight even said it on lana-clark.net that Smallville was built with the idea of Clana in mind and Lana being the main girl for Clark on the series from start to finish.

I honestly believe if Kristin signed on for this season, there wouldn't be any Clois whatsoever in this season and if Kristin signed on for an 9th, the same thing would had happened.

Clois on this series is the fall back of no Lana, IMO.

If DeKnight really wanted Clark and Lana to be together for the entire series then TPTB should have made the show only 4 years or they should have let the characters stay in school the entire 8 years. Clark only went out with Lana in high school in the history of Superman. Then he moved on to other love interests, as did Lana.

llk6165
01-23-2009, 02:31 AM
Looks like they're in awe of each other... like "WOW". Lana has her mouth dropped open and Clark's eyes are eye [insert bad word here] her. :eek:

Interesting observation. When I saw the kiss, I thought that he looked at Lois with much more passion.

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if that awe.....well Clana its a weird creepy couple...but well we already knew that....they think they are 14......enough say:rotfl:

Celita - your use of the word creepy is too coincidental. I was just coming on to use that same word about Clark's comment about still being 14. Clark is demonstrating a lack of maturity in that comment. His emotional growth is stunted. Someone his age wanting to recapture the feelings of a 14 year old - very creepy. What now, are he and Lana going make out behind the tasty freeze? Maybe his high school football team needs a new quarterback. And the Torch could always use a new editor, since Chloe has moved on to the next developmental stage of life - adulthood. Even Lana recognized the dysfunctionality of that comment
as Garth said in Legion - Clark is nothing like the man of steel.

friday
01-23-2009, 05:15 AM
The best part of the kiss. Credit to Trisha
:lol:

http://i39.tinypic.com/1pe3bk.gif

akkkkwwarddddddddd

I don't see awkwardness in the after kiss. I've seen caps of it in another site and Clark is looking very intensely at Lana afterwards. He was even leaning towards her again. I think he wanted another kiss.

Awkwardness in my opinion is when they can't look each other in the eyes and they back away from each other. None of that happened in this scene.






Didn't that kiss look awkward? They don't kiss well to me anymore. It looked passionless to me.

I thought the kiss was a little awkward in the beginning because Clark's head was tilted all the way to the left which made for weird kissing angles.

But after Clark moves and faces Lana it got better especially when he gives her a big open mouthed kiss and Lana started responding. That was hot.

Lilah
01-23-2009, 06:23 AM
clark can have anyone he wants....he is too good for lois...

Think of it this way, if you have these feelings for a guy, who is a good friend, and he kind of gives you the vibe that he feels the same.... then you two almost kiss only to get interrupted by his ex girlfriend, who was his high school sweetheart and the first girl he loved, wouldn't you want to skip town the first chance you got? And on top of that, the chick stays and he kisses her while you're away??? Wouldn't you feel, I don't know, like you never want to come back home????? I know I would.... So I think after yesterday, he doesn't deserve her, and she better make him grovel for her.... And that's not as a Clois fan, or an anti-Clana or whatever other ship anyone claims.... It's purely as a woman who grew up watching Lois Lane be iconic. If she gives in really easily, it throws off her entire character. And that's going to upset me more than the Clana kiss.

melissan02
01-23-2009, 06:43 AM
Well, obviously we Clana fans are happy tonight! Thanks TPTB. I know we only have two more episodes with Lana, but I felt like we got our cake and icing tonight. No matter what happens after these two episodes, it is almost cemented that Clark will always love/be in-love with this woman. Her coming back is "just like she never left." When the guy asked him if there was anyone back home who made fighting for the greater good worthwhile, he went to Lana. Per SV, this is the couple, she is his soulmate. He is very much in love with her - so much so that he would put the world second to her. Sorry, Lois is the point (just like Chloe said) in this triangle. If anyone will be hurt it is her. But lucky for her Lana will be gone soon, so no competition there. Still, TPTB will have a hard time proving that Clois is not the fall back/second choice now. The best part of the episode was the very beginning (Clana scene) and the very end (Clana scene). :)
Not only will TPTB have a hard time proving Lois is not the second choice, but they'll also have quite a HUGE task to prove that Clark is not a shmuck, but a super-hero! IMHO, he was ruined last night. :( It's a shame really, for the character of Superman. I understand that SV has obviously decided to do a complete re-write of the entire mythos...they made that clear last night by having Clark run back to Lana wanting to be with her! The re-write is that Lois (no matter what they do now) will look like second prize...and that's NOT how the mythos goes---not at all!! Wonder what Margot Kidder would have thought about last night?...or better yet, Christopher Reeve!!!:eek:
I do wonder how any SV fan (regardless of ship) can honestly say that Clark looked heroic last night at the end with Lana? Did he really, in all honesty, look like he's inching closer to Superman? To me, he looked far from it, which is why the re-write should be done...let Lana have him, let them be together. This man is NOT the one who will become Superman, not in the least! He really looked pathetic.:(
SV should have never started down the CLOIS road at the beginning of this season. Now, I don't want it at all. It's tainted. My fear was for such an iconic, legendary love story that's been around for SEVERAL decades, it would not be done properly, and my fears were realized last night!
SV should end this season. We know who the real Superman mythos soulmate is,...Lois Lane. After tonight's SV episode, owning the season 8 DVD set won't be a necessity for me. In order to get the REAL story, the story that's lasted over 70 years, the story that most people the world over recognize, I'll rely on the comics, and Superman movies. You know....the ones that feature Lois Lane....there's a reason for that.;) Guess SV didn't get the memo.:rolleyes:
Enjoy the re-write though. Hope it's worth it....not for me, I'm walking away as one very disappointed Superman fan.:( I'll leave the REAL interpretation for Christopher Reeve or Brandon Routh---and that last one I thought I'd never say!!!

nic25
01-23-2009, 07:00 AM
Not only will TPTB have a hard time proving Lois is not the second choice, but they'll also have quite a HUGE task to prove that Clark is not a shmuck, but a super-hero! IMHO, he was ruined last night. :( It's a shame really, for the character of Superman. I understand that SV has obviously decided to do a complete re-write of the entire mythos...they made that clear last night by having Clark run back to Lana wanting to be with her! The re-write is that Lois (no matter what they do now) will look like second prize...and that's NOT how the mythos goes---not at all!! Wonder what Margot Kidder would have thought about last night?...or better yet, Christopher Reeve!!!:eek:
I do wonder how any SV fan (regardless of ship) can honestly say that Clark looked heroic last night at the end with Lana? Did he really, in all honesty, look like he's inching closer to Superman? To me, he looked far from it, which is why the re-write should be done...let Lana have him, let them be together. This man is NOT the one who will become Superman, not in the least! He really looked pathetic.:(
SV should have never started down the CLOIS road at the beginning of this season. Now, I don't want it at all. It's tainted. My fear was for such an iconic, legendary love story that's been around for SEVERAL decades, it would not be done properly, and my fears were realized last night!
SV should end this season. We know who the real Superman mythos soulmate is,...Lois Lane. After tonight's SV episode, owning the season 8 DVD set won't be a necessity for me. In order to get the REAL story, the story that's lasted over 70 years, the story that most people the world over recognize, I'll rely on the comics, and Superman movies. You know....the ones that feature Lois Lane....there's a reason for that.;) Guess SV didn't get the memo.:rolleyes:
Enjoy the re-write though. Hope it's worth it....not for me, I'm walking away as one very disappointed Superman fan.:( I'll leave the REAL interpretation for Christopher Reeve or Brandon Routh---and that last one I thought I'd never say!!!

Good post!!!!!...and the question still remains, Why did they bring Lois in the show to do this to her.I get that they want to do some things a little different then the comics,but i mean really.This is a bit drastic.If the whole point is that Lana is supposed to be the one for Clark in SV then Lois should have never been there.

Like i said before everybody knows about Lois and Clark when it comes to superman.To me there are ruinung the relationship in away.Unless we get a season 9,i dont know how they could possibly fix it.If Lois was not gonna be the best that she should be,then what was the point.

Its all fine if Lana was/is the main girl(and i actually dont mind Lana!),but dont bring Lois on the show to look like fool.I dont blame Lois for taking off,because i would feel like an idiot seeing all that Clana stuff going on,after Clark just tried to kiss me.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 07:05 AM
The whole Lois and Clark is all wrong. They brought in a middle aged Lois to play a Lois that is supposed to be college aged. She looks like his mother.


If you repeat that enough..many will start to agree with u:rolleyes:.lol

Kreukie
01-23-2009, 07:23 AM
If you repeat that enough..many will start to agree with u:rolleyes:.lol

Hey, that's what I say! :rotfl:

It's true though, jumping the bandwagon is what it is!:lol:

Alania
01-23-2009, 07:46 AM
The whole Lois and Clark is all wrong. They brought in a middle aged Lois to play a Lois that is supposed to be college aged. She looks like his mother.

Middle aged is someone in their 40's. As far as i know, ED is 30 and she started out with 26. Plus, she's one year younger than TW. So, we got ourselves a middle-aged Lois and Clark. :rolleyes:


I do wonder how any SV fan (regardless of ship) can honestly say that Clark looked heroic last night at the end with Lana? Did he really, in all honesty, look like he's inching closer to Superman? To me, he looked far from it, which is why the re-write should be done...let Lana have him, let them be together. This man is NOT the one who will become Superman, not in the least! He really looked pathetic.:(
SV should have never started down the CLOIS road at the beginning of this season. Now, I don't want it at all. It's tainted. My fear was for such an iconic, legendary love story that's been around for SEVERAL decades, it would not be done properly, and my fears were realized last night!
SV should end this season. We know who the real Superman mythos soulmate is,...Lois Lane. After tonight's SV episode, owning the season 8 DVD set won't be a necessity for me. In order to get the REAL story, the story that's lasted over 70 years, the story that most people the world over recognize, I'll rely on the comics, and Superman movies. You know....the ones that feature Lois Lane....there's a reason for that.;) Guess SV didn't get the memo.:rolleyes:
!!!

Mel, like i said to you before, give it a time, there's still two more episodes to go. Yesterday, IMO, Lois' mention made it up to the kiss, cause you could see that Clark was confused, he wasn't sure anymore whether Lana back was a good thing or not. He kept asking Chloe whether it was possible to just stop loving someone just like that, he wanted a confirmation from her: stop loving someone like what's happening to him cannot be possible. Clark also has Oliver around all the time, the only guy Lois has ever fell for. She was all sad and worried about him in Toxic, she had her "come back to old flame", same way Clark is having with Lana. She even said to him: "sometimes i wonder whether i should've let you go". She had her closure with Oliver, it's time for Clark. Although i really wanted a Lois-Ollie smooch just to see Clark's reaction, we had to settle only for a lot of crying and Clark comforting her. Clark, on the other hand, has seven years of history with Lana, the girl went away saying goodbye through a videotape, i mean, they have a lot to talk and close! Good thing for us is that Lana came back a little too late, cause Clark is already in love with someone else.
So, have faith in our hero, Mel, he will get there, trust me! It's easy for us to say this and that about him cause we know Lois is the one, the problem is that HE doesn't, he's figuring it out now, on his terms.

bigblueplanet
01-23-2009, 07:54 AM
If this Lana hasn't been so screwed up over the years, Clark having difficulity to let her go won't look this bad, IMO. The only thing SVLana is remotely resemble to her comic counterparts to me is that she is extremely loyal to those she loves, even 'those she loves' are Lex Luthor, or Bizzaro or whomever.

If one thing I learned from this show during 7 and half years is that why Clark and Lana are NOT meant to be together. The show made that point very clear to me while TPTB kept proving it again, again, again, and again until I almost choked with Clana angst.

So as to why some people still think Lana is the right woman for Clark is beyond me. If you care about Clark, you'd think he deserves someone much much better. But it's just IMHO.

Now, on to Clark POV. I don't think Clark is 'being confused' status right now. In my eyes, he thinks he still loves Lana. He thinks their relationship still work well if they give it another try. And he finally figured out that he won't have to sacrifice his love life in order to save the world. Thus this end scene where he tried to pursue Lana. Good cliffhanger I must say whether or not we like it.

I can' deny this isn't a natural reaction for SVClark, although I was hoping they rather work out to be good friends at this point. I figured PS3 couldn't resist this last opportunity to create another Clana drama. Yes, I know. This is Smallville. I should've known it's coming.

Lana represents Smallville and boyhood of Clark Kent. Before Clark becomes Superman, he needs to leave this part of his life behind. And in SVClark's case, it looks like hell of a trip to get there but who knows? Maybe PS3 can still pull it off.

I'll wait and see.

simplemath
01-23-2009, 08:02 AM
Guys I think your forgetting the part that kelly souders and brian peterson are also clana fans... I thought you guys should know because i noticed that most clana episodes were actually written by them.....

nic25
01-23-2009, 08:03 AM
I am not very familiar with the comics,but is ComicLana the same as SVLana?...or are they extremely different?

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 08:17 AM
I am not very familiar with the comics,but is ComicLana the same as SVLana?...or are they extremely different?

Comic Lana and Smallville Lana are as different as Chalk and Cheese.lol.

Smallville Lana can do no wrong and has a great 'destiny' becoming Supergirl
Comic Lana has no great future. Apart from moping over Clark

nic25
01-23-2009, 08:20 AM
Comic Lana and Smallville Lana are as different as Chalk and Cheese.lol.

Smallville Lana can do no wrong and has a great 'destiny' becoming Supergirl
Comic Lana has no great future. Apart from moping over Clark

Thanks!...there are so many differences,i cant keep up :)

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 08:25 AM
Hey, that's what I say! :rotfl:

It's true though, jumping the bandwagon is what it is!:lol:

Your right. 30 is only middle aged to a 14 year old:p.:rotfl:

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Thanks!...there are so many differences,i cant keep up :)


Your welcome:). I for one will be deleting all things SV Lana from my personal canon.lol

Vala
01-23-2009, 08:41 AM
I'm not watcing season 8 at all but i saw tonight episode. The kiss was warm and beautiful. :)

Dustmite
01-23-2009, 08:44 AM
I don't have much to say about the Clana except that Kristin looked incredibly beautiful. I pretty much wacthed this episode going, "Clark is so beautiful, Lana is so beautiful, Chloe is so beautiful." And even though Ollie just rubbed me up the wrong way, he looked gorgeous too.

Sometimes with SV, it's best to just hang out in the shallow end of the pool.

Kyogre
01-23-2009, 08:47 AM
Clana is great in this episode they still love each other.

phasts
01-23-2009, 10:17 AM
Isn't Lana only contacted for two more episodes? That being said, this kiss is exactly what we need. Lana previously mentioned that she doesn't want to be with clark, and that he needs to go off and do better things. It's in her mind that she doesn't want him. Even though we saw a kiss, we never saw what happened after it. I believe that in the next two episodes, lana is going to finally, and probably brutally, get it through clark's mind that they were not meant to be. This, in turn, will possibly be the driving force that makes clark man up and be a super hero.

If this happens, I'll actually end up liking lana... haha.

Kevin24
01-23-2009, 10:44 AM
I really hope it is the over way around. If it happens that way I will be extremely disappointed .

Alania
01-23-2009, 10:51 AM
Justin, i do not accept Lana making Clark man up and embrace his superhero side, he needs to do that alone. She cannot interfere like that. If that happens, it gonna sound like they've sacrificed their relationship, that it wasn't suppose to end or that she is, solely, the reason for Clark to become the hero, when in fact, a lot of factors and people contribute to it.

Showmaster
01-23-2009, 10:55 AM
Im thinking something like: Clark and Lana are together for x ammount of weeks, Lana finds out she's hurting Clark with this and leaves again..

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 11:17 AM
I liked last night's episode a lot. My sister came downstairs during the last scene that I had been rewatching over and over and she said she saw no awkwardness between the two Clark even looked as if he was leaning in again towards Lana. I still wish I could understand why Lois was brought in don't get me wrong I love Lois I think she's great, but I dont understand why the push to Clark. In Superman mythology Clark and Lois don't meet until the Daily Planet and Clark's the one who like's her. I was a huge Clark and Lois fan I loved them in the movies and in The Adventures of Lois and Clark, but as soon as I became a fan of Smallville I became a fan of Clark and Lana they just pulled me in and clouded my vision.

I think it would have been nice if Clark met Lois at the ending of the series as he's entering the Daily Planet or something as 'dorky kent'. I just cant see these two together in Smallville.

"Lana Lang fell in love with the boy next door and Lois Lane fell in love with Superman and settled for Clark Kent."

BillBoeBaggins
01-23-2009, 11:21 AM
Justin, i do not accept Lana making Clark man up and embrace his superhero side, he needs to do that alone.
I really, really, really don't want this to be about Lana being the bigger person and making the "sacrifice".

Ilovebeinglost
01-23-2009, 11:24 AM
The attraction is gone. No matter what you think it's gone between the actors and the Clark and Lana

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 11:29 AM
Yea I don't see that at all, but thats your opinion

Iluvgreen
01-23-2009, 11:38 AM
I actually hope it's Clark that tells her that they weren't meant to be.

skye4376
01-23-2009, 11:43 AM
for one, clana is all wrong. i hated it when clark kissed lana, but what i'm hoping for is that clark realizes after the kiss that the spark isn't there anymore. that way we'll know that he won't go to lois as a rebound but found out from kissing lana that he wasn't in love with her anymore.

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 11:49 AM
I just must be to big of a Clark and Lana fan to notice that because I'm blinded by them lol. I just dont see the Clark and Lois I've tried I watch clips of them on youtube and they are cute together, but then I watch a clip of Clark and Lana and it just WOW'S me. The way Clark is with Lana is so different from any of the girls he's ever been with. The way he looks at her and the way when they kiss is different from the way he kisses the other girls. See there I go blinded.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-23-2009, 12:05 PM
Clana is poisonous to smallville. 3 down, 2 to go!!!

Viper2369
01-23-2009, 12:06 PM
I think both are wondering why it doesn't fell the same, theya re going to work trhough that on Power and ended it right there and on the last esoidoe theya re going to be friends


My thoughts on this too. After this kiss and the one coming in the next episode, he is going to realize those feelings he thought where there (as he said, you don't just lose those feelings overnight) aren't for Lana anymore. IMO, that is what they are doing with Lana, using her to show Clark he doesn't care for her as much as he thinks. This could just be wishful thinking though.

And what if her secret is that she is engaged to Pete, lol.

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 12:13 PM
Lana Lang has and always will be Clark Kent's first love and even though Clark does eventually end up with Lois he will always love Lana Lang, because you dont forget your first love.

thedarknight
01-23-2009, 12:19 PM
I'd prefer Clark wanting to be with Lois more than Lana, like it's supposed to be. Not Lana dumping Clark and then Clark turning to Lois.

myloveahmed
01-23-2009, 12:21 PM
Really disappointed!!

Promise
01-23-2009, 12:30 PM
I liked last night's episode a lot. My sister came downstairs during the last scene that I had been rewatching over and over and she said she saw no awkwardness between the two Clark even looked as if he was leaning in again towards Lana. I still wish I could understand why Lois was brought in don't get me wrong I love Lois I think she's great, but I dont understand why the push to Clark. In Superman mythology Clark and Lois don't meet until the Daily Planet and Clark's the one who like's her. I was a huge Clark and Lois fan I loved them in the movies and in The Adventures of Lois and Clark, but as soon as I became a fan of Smallville I became a fan of Clark and Lana they just pulled me in and clouded my vision.

I think it would have been nice if Clark met Lois at the ending of the series as he's entering the Daily Planet or something as 'dorky kent'. I just cant see these two together in Smallville.

"Lana Lang fell in love with the boy next door and Lois Lane fell in love with Superman and settled for Clark Kent."

So perfectly said, and to be honest with you, I said my thought about Lois coming in on the latter end of Smallville back in S4. TPTB at taht time should of just left Lois as Chloe cousin or after the 2 story Arc to find Chloe's body. Its just like when they brought in Perry, it was a one episode arc, basically a shout out to the future we already know about, but right now, its about the beginingins. Great post!!

blueman
01-23-2009, 12:36 PM
I don't mind Lana being back on the show and kicking some butt, but com'on are we gonna start this all over again, it took how many seasons of it going on and off b4 they actually realized it wasn't going to work? I just think that if Clark is growing up...then he SHOULD grow up!

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 12:38 PM
Clark is growing up and for once he has guts. Last night's episode of if it was the older Clark as soon as Lana said "the world needs you" Clark would have just agreed with her and not press on, but this Clark didn't back down instead he was honest with his feelings and he took the leap.

myloveahmed
01-23-2009, 12:45 PM
Yeah, I agree with that,it was'nt right to make a man sound more emotionally fixated esp. a superhero like C.K.

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 12:48 PM
I don't think an actual 'break up ' is going to happen I think there is going to be a reason Lana is leaving Clark, but he's going to know how she still and will always love him. I think the two are always going to love each other and know how they were meant to be, but Lana know's that Clark is meant more then just for her and her happily ever after dream so she's going to let him go.

phasts
01-23-2009, 12:54 PM
smallville's clark kent is always going to have some sort of love towards lana, so I feel like she's the one that's gotta do something.

zHeN_zHeN
01-23-2009, 01:00 PM
I'd prefer Clark wanting to be with Lois more than Lana, like it's supposed to be. Not Lana dumping Clark and then Clark turning to Lois.
Exactly.

One day he'll choose Lois when he knows in his heart that she is indeed "The One".

Fish1941
01-23-2009, 01:06 PM
Lana Lang has and always will be Clark Kent's first love and even though Clark does eventually end up with Lois he will always love Lana Lang, because you dont forget your first love.


So what? Just because Lana will always be Clark's first love, doesn't mean she is the right woman for him.

Lois has her first love . . . and it's certainly not Clark. Are we expected to moon over the great love that Lois had for the first romance in her life? I rather doubt it.

Alwaysforever
01-23-2009, 01:09 PM
Yes I know that but I'm saying that Clark has always loved Lana and if the two were to see each other again and if Clark was with Lois at that time. I think that there would still be that tension there between the two. Lois has had a lot of loves it's hard to keep up.

Cogito17
01-23-2009, 03:47 PM
I see so much gloom and doom about the re-emergence of Clark and Lana's relationship, and I have to disagree because....

1. It needed to happen IMO. Clark and Lana's relationship ended because Lana decided it was best to cut it off, NOT, I repeat NOT because of a lack of romance between the two. If Clark is ever going to have a succesful relationship with Lois, they need to erase any doubts about his relationship with Lana. Simply removing Lana from the equation isn't enough. Now that they are back together, they will be able to show them deciding to go their seperate ways of their own free will and erase doubts about what would have happened if Lana had stuck around.

2. I see lots of people talking about it being regression on Clark's part. I personally see it as progression. MM warned Clark earlier in the season about being consumed by his need to save people. Now, with Lana, he sees that he can balance the heroic side of his life with a personal life.

3. It's not an emotional regression either, its been made clear throughout the season that Clark wasn't entirely over Lana. Not to mention his feelings for Lana have done nothing to hamper his job at the daily planet or his proactive approach to saving people.

4. It gives Clana fans something to celebrate while allowing the opportunity that Clois fans should want for full closure on the Clana relationship, allowing future Clois romance to be free of doubts about what could have happened with Lana.

woolanayu
01-23-2009, 03:49 PM
^yeah right

lana 9
01-23-2009, 04:03 PM
good post love what you say

Alicia Chipy
01-23-2009, 04:10 PM
Just no lightswitch Clois please.

Dustmite
01-23-2009, 04:13 PM
Your post is well thought out and I would agree if it was any couple other then Clana. My fear is, what if they never show a lack of romance between them? What if they force them apart due to something contrived whilst hammering home the message that they will always love each? That it's the world/circumstances/Martians keeping them apart?

BadToad
01-23-2009, 04:15 PM
If it happens the way you describe? Then maybe.

But what if things don't go down that way? What if there isn't a mutual decision to go there seperate ways? What if its not Clark's choice at all?

Will it still seem like such a positive, necessary thing then?

I'm glad you have faith in the writers. More power to you. Unfortunately, I am not so inclined. I don't believe this had to happen AT ALL. I believe there were other ways to write this arc in a far more positive way (particularly for Clark). This was the one option I was hoping they would avoid, and they didn't. Hence my lack of faith. Not mention, as [b]Dustmite[/i] said, there is a certain history and tendency with this couple. Why assume it will be different now?

But I do hope you are right, and it all ends as positively and cleanly as you are hoping for. JMO

cygnusx1
01-23-2009, 04:49 PM
i rewatched the episode and it seemed to me there wasn't any spark with the kiss.

BWOracle
01-23-2009, 04:57 PM
I see so much gloom and doom about the re-emergence of Clark and Lana's relationship, and I have to disagree because....

1. It needed to happen IMO. Clark and Lana's relationship ended because Lana decided it was best to cut it off, NOT, I repeat NOT because of a lack of romance between the two. If Clark is ever going to have a succesful relationship with Lois, they need to erase any doubts about his relationship with Lana. Simply removing Lana from the equation isn't enough. Now that they are back together, they will be able to show them deciding to go their seperate ways of their own free will and erase doubts about what would have happened if Lana had stuck around.

2. I see lots of people talking about it being regression on Clark's part. I personally see it as progression. MM warned Clark earlier in the season about being consumed by his need to save people. Now, with Lana, he sees that he can balance the heroic side of his life with a personal life.

3. It's not an emotional regression either, its been made clear throughout the season that Clark wasn't entirely over Lana. Not to mention his feelings for Lana have done nothing to hamper his job at the daily planet or his proactive approach to saving people.

4. It gives Clana fans something to celebrate while allowing the opportunity that Clois fans should want for full closure on the Clana relationship, allowing future Clois romance to be free of doubts about what could have happened with Lana.

YES. After all the immature whining on this site about Lana, finally someone who gets it.

Clana4Life
01-23-2009, 05:32 PM
Not only will TPTB have a hard time proving Lois is not the second choice, but they'll also have quite a HUGE task to prove that Clark is not a shmuck, but a super-hero! IMHO, he was ruined last night. :( It's a shame really, for the character of Superman. I understand that SV has obviously decided to do a complete re-write of the entire mythos...they made that clear last night by having Clark run back to Lana wanting to be with her! The re-write is that Lois (no matter what they do now) will look like second prize...and that's NOT how the mythos goes---not at all!! Wonder what Margot Kidder would have thought about last night?...or better yet, Christopher Reeve!!!:eek:
I do wonder how any SV fan (regardless of ship) can honestly say that Clark looked heroic last night at the end with Lana? Did he really, in all honesty, look like he's inching closer to Superman? To me, he looked far from it, which is why the re-write should be done...let Lana have him, let them be together. This man is NOT the one who will become Superman, not in the least! He really looked pathetic.:(
SV should have never started down the CLOIS road at the beginning of this season. Now, I don't want it at all. It's tainted. My fear was for such an iconic, legendary love story that's been around for SEVERAL decades, it would not be done properly, and my fears were realized last night!
SV should end this season. We know who the real Superman mythos soulmate is,...Lois Lane. After tonight's SV episode, owning the season 8 DVD set won't be a necessity for me. In order to get the REAL story, the story that's lasted over 70 years, the story that most people the world over recognize, I'll rely on the comics, and Superman movies. You know....the ones that feature Lois Lane....there's a reason for that.;) Guess SV didn't get the memo.:rolleyes:
Enjoy the re-write though. Hope it's worth it....not for me, I'm walking away as one very disappointed Superman fan.:( I'll leave the REAL interpretation for Christopher Reeve or Brandon Routh---and that last one I thought I'd never say!!!


But Clark is becoming Superman. No one is really talking about the police scene. That was very much Superman-like. Clark investigated. Clark went after the bad guys. Clark i still committed to the greater good, to saving people. Personal life aside, he is becoming Superman. I would be concerned if his personal life were detracting from his heroic-life but it is not. He's able to love Lana and still help others. So I'm not upset (obviously as a Clana fan) that he wants Lana. He can want whomever he wants. As long as he's saving the world, it doesn't matter much. After all the world is happy just as long as they are being saved and just as long as the bad guys are being put behind bars. The world - i.e., Metropolis/Smallville, etc., doesn't care who Superman's girlfriend or wife is.

petitemimi
01-23-2009, 05:34 PM
4. It gives Clana fans something to celebrate while allowing the opportunity that Clois fans should want for full closure on the Clana relationship, allowing future Clois romance to be free of doubts about what could have happened with Lana.

I think this is wildly optimistic, and there's absolutely nothing in the history of the show to make me believe it will happen. I will be very surprised if Clark make things clear (by actually TALKING about his feelings). The whole history of his love life was to say "I'm not over Lana." or to be evasive enough to keep the clana ship alive. I have no faith that I will see some mature break up especially from Clark. I believe the showrunners will never have the balls to go there.

I wish I'm wrong; because this is hurting the show. A LOT. A lot of people are not enjoying the show as they should because of that, and no amount of lecture is going to change that. We don't want to be told about how wonderful the breakup will be for Clark and his future relationship with another woman, we want to SEE it and if it doesn't show right now that this clana thing will lead to a mature break up for the vast majority of people in here, it's because it's not there.

batfinx
01-23-2009, 05:43 PM
Clark is growing up and for once he has guts.

He's growing up, but it seems to scare him. He retreated to his youth.


Lois has had a lot of loves it's hard to keep up.

Now that's funny considering Whitney, Jason, Lex Luthor, and Bizarro. Though even if Lois had twice as many men as Lana, the one thing she has never done is throw them in Clark's face as being better than he is, or more honest than he is, which included Seth who was controlling Lana. I mean come on, she said "Even though my compass was way off with Seth, he still had the courage to be honest with me". He got her arrested, was controlling her and almost killed Clark, but isn't it nice he was honest with her? :lol:

Clana4Life
01-23-2009, 05:45 PM
I think this is wildly optimistic, and there's absolutely nothing in the history of the show to make me believe it will happen. I will be very surprised if Clark make things clear (by actually TALKING about his feelings). The whole history of his love life was to say "I'm not over Lana." or to be evasive enough to keep the clana ship alive. I have no faith that I will see some mature break up especially from Clark. I believe the showrunners will never have the balls to go there.

I wish I'm wrong; because this is hurting the show. A LOT. A lot of people are not enjoying the show as they should because of that, and no amount of lecture is going to change that. We don't want to be told about how wonderful the breakup will be for Clark and his future relationship with another woman, we want to SEE it and if it doesn't show right now that this clana thing will lead to a mature break up for the vast majority of people in here, it's because it's not there.

I agree, particularly since there's a chance KK will come back towards the end of next year (per her words if the material is good). So I don't think they'll ever put the final nail in the coffin, because they love Clana and they've invested too many years to completely wash their hands of it.

petitemimi
01-23-2009, 05:51 PM
^^ Yeah, they will recast Clark, transfer Clana in Melrose Place, and everything will be great! :lol:

Cogito17
01-23-2009, 05:57 PM
I think this is wildly optimistic, and there's absolutely nothing in the history of the show to make me believe it will happen. I will be very surprised if Clark make things clear (by actually TALKING about his feelings). The whole history of his love life was to say "I'm not over Lana." or to be evasive enough to keep the clana ship alive. I have no faith that I will see some mature break up especially from Clark. I believe the showrunners will never have the balls to go there.

I wish I'm wrong; because this is hurting the show. A LOT. A lot of people are not enjoying the show as they should because of that, and no amount of lecture is going to change that. We don't want to be told about how wonderful the breakup will be for Clark and his future relationship with another woman, we want to SEE it and if it doesn't show right now that this clana thing will lead to a mature break up for the vast majority of people in here, it's because it's not there.

So you think they spent the first 10 episodes of the season building up Clark and Lois' romantic relationship just so that they could throw it away the moment Lana walks on the scene? Lana and Clark had one romantic scene, Lois and Clark had the whole first half of the season. I don't think one scene is enough to convince me that they are changing the direction foreshadowed by the first 10 episodes of the season. But who knows, maybe people like you will be telling me "I told you so" a couple weeks from now. As I said eariler, time will tell!

Bizarrolover
01-23-2009, 06:05 PM
So you think they spent the first 10 episodes of the season building up Clark and Lois' romantic relationship just so that they could throw it away the moment Lana walks on the scene? Lana and Clark had one romantic scene, Lois and Clark had the whole first half of the season. I don't think one scene is enough to convince me that they are changing the direction foreshadowed by the first 10 episodes of the season. But who knows, maybe people like you will be telling me "I told you so" a couple weeks from now. As I said eariler, time will tell!

I'm optimistic because I think they are building up things for the final debacle. Lana comes back and she's all sweet and nice but Clark doesn't have a clue of what is going on behind her smiley mask. he's still dreaming of having this idyllic relationship with the girl next door. But that girl is completely gone and soon he'll realize that. As you said, time will tell and Requiem is only two episodes away.

JEWCY
01-23-2009, 06:41 PM
I see so much gloom and doom about the re-emergence of Clark and Lana's relationship, and I have to disagree because....

1. It needed to happen IMO. Clark and Lana's relationship ended because Lana decided it was best to cut it off, NOT, I repeat NOT because of a lack of romance between the two. If Clark is ever going to have a succesful relationship with Lois, they need to erase any doubts about his relationship with Lana. Simply removing Lana from the equation isn't enough. Now that they are back together, they will be able to show them deciding to go their seperate ways of their own free will and erase doubts about what would have happened if Lana had stuck around.

2. I see lots of people talking about it being regression on Clark's part. I personally see it as progression. MM warned Clark earlier in the season about being consumed by his need to save people. Now, with Lana, he sees that he can balance the heroic side of his life with a personal life.

3. It's not an emotional regression either, its been made clear throughout the season that Clark wasn't entirely over Lana. Not to mention his feelings for Lana have done nothing to hamper his job at the daily planet or his proactive approach to saving people.

4. It gives Clana fans something to celebrate while allowing the opportunity that Clois fans should want for full closure on the Clana relationship, allowing future Clois romance to be free of doubts about what could have happened with Lana.


I read a lot of discussion about all topics covering Smallville, but this might be one of the best, non-biased, cut to the point answers I have read on this site.

ClanaDestinyObsession
01-23-2009, 07:33 PM
1. Clark and Lana's relationship ended because Lana decided it was best to cut it off, NOT, I repeat NOT because of a lack of romance between the two.

2. Now, with Lana, he sees that he can balance the heroic side of his life with a personal life.

3. It's not an emotional regression either, its been made clear throughout the season that Clark wasn't entirely over Lana. Not to mention his feelings for Lana have done nothing to hamper his job at the daily planet or his proactive approach to saving people.

4. It gives Clana fans something to celebrate

I agree with you on THAT, but I do not want Clana to end, ever! I think Clark should be able to save the world, but like Chloe says "sometimes even a hero needs to be saved". Lana does that. I mean why should he bear these burdens alone? They can have their cake and eat it too.

Lois can jump in a lake...or marry Ollie =]. She's a whiny man-hunter. Blehhhh. Really She's pushy and rude and whiny and I would feel sorry for Ollie, but if he can put up w/ it....

paolinki25
01-23-2009, 07:43 PM
If it happens the way you describe? Then maybe.

But what if things don't go down that way? What if there isn't a mutual decision to go there seperate ways? What if its not Clark's choice at all?

Will it still seem like such a positive, necessary thing then?

I'm glad you have faith in the writers. More power to you. Unfortunately, I am not so inclined. I don't believe this had to happen AT ALL. I believe there were other ways to write this arc in a far more positive way (particularly for Clark). This was the one option I was hoping they would avoid, and they didn't. Hence my lack of faith. Not mention, as [b]Dustmite[/i] said, there is a certain history and tendency with this couple. Why assume it will be different now?

But I do hope you are right, and it all ends as positively and cleanly as you are hoping for. JMO

See, this is exactly what bothers me about this whole situation. This was their last chance to repair the mess Clana became after season 1. Unfortunately, they seem to have chosen ( I say seems, because maybe following episodes will prove me wrong; however, I doubt it.) the same road again. A road that leads to Clark being miserable, Lana looking like a martyr and Clark blaming himself for all that bad things that happen to Lana Lang.

ClanaDestinyObsession
01-23-2009, 07:45 PM
So you think they spent the first 10 episodes of the season building up Clark and Lois' romantic relationship just so that they could throw it away the moment Lana walks on the scene? Lana and Clark had one romantic scene, Lois and Clark had the whole first half of the season. I don't think one scene is enough to convince me that they are changing the direction foreshadowed by the first 10 episodes of the season. But who knows, maybe people like you will be telling me "I told you so" a couple weeks from now. As I said eariler, time will tell!

so Clois "had" the first part of this season, but not truly b/c Clark always had Lana on his mind. Even when the almost kissed it was out of each other's loneliness.
CLana has had the first 7 seasons. During no point since they both started liking each other as more than friends (although even before that they had sparks) has either one ever really stopped feeling the way they do about each other (IMO). Sometimes it was masked by temporary feelings of rage or spite, but they still loved one another and that is why it hurt so bad.

LiLViLLiaN
01-23-2009, 07:51 PM
I'm so over Clana. Same [MOD EDIT] different season!

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 07:51 PM
Feelings have changed. That was evident in last night's kiss.

LiLViLLiaN
01-23-2009, 07:52 PM
^^ I agree.

Jack-El49
01-23-2009, 07:52 PM
Clana revamped? It's like Clana 2009, Home Edition.

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 07:52 PM
I'm so over Clana. Same sh!t different season!

I couldn't agree more! It's time for fresh blood if you know what I mean!

pizzahead2490
01-23-2009, 07:53 PM
yup you guys speak the truth

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Absolutely!

Jack-El49
01-23-2009, 07:55 PM
I do not want Clana to end, ever!


It doesn't have to...one little bite from Lana-Fu-Fang and Clark will live forever!

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 07:55 PM
I actually hope it's Clark that tells her that they weren't meant to be.


After the passionless kiss of last night it wouldn't surprise me one bite!

od25star
01-23-2009, 07:55 PM
It doesn't have to...one little bite from Lana-Fu-Fang and Clark will live forever!


OMG!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

LiLViLLiaN
01-23-2009, 07:56 PM
Lois needs to come in with her military brat whoop a$$ skills and splash some holy water on Lana.

Maybe she will melt?

pizzahead2490
01-23-2009, 07:56 PM
It doesn't have to...one little bite from Lana-Fu-Fang and Clark will live forever!

they can live happily never after in clanaville

Mickey_Bickey
01-23-2009, 07:57 PM
It doesn't have to...one little bite from Lana-Fu-Fang and Clark will live forever!


Where's Buffy when we need her?:lol:

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Lois needs to come in with her military brat whoop a$$ skills and splash some holy water on Lana.

Maybe she will melt?

Yeah, who needs Buffy when you have Lois Lane!!!

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Not only will TPTB have a hard time proving Lois is not the second choice, but they'll also have quite a HUGE task to prove that Clark is not a shmuck, but a super-hero! IMHO, he was ruined last night. :( It's a shame really, for the character of Superman. I understand that SV has obviously decided to do a complete re-write of the entire mythos...they made that clear last night by having Clark run back to Lana wanting to be with her! The re-write is that Lois (no matter what they do now) will look like second prize...and that's NOT how the mythos goes---not at all!! Wonder what Margot Kidder would have thought about last night?...or better yet, Christopher Reeve!!!:eek:
I do wonder how any SV fan (regardless of ship) can honestly say that Clark looked heroic last night at the end with Lana? Did he really, in all honesty, look like he's inching closer to Superman? To me, he looked far from it, which is why the re-write should be done...let Lana have him, let them be together. This man is NOT the one who will become Superman, not in the least! He really looked pathetic.:(
SV should have never started down the CLOIS road at the beginning of this season. Now, I don't want it at all. It's tainted. My fear was for such an iconic, legendary love story that's been around for SEVERAL decades, it would not be done properly, and my fears were realized last night!
SV should end this season. We know who the real Superman mythos soulmate is,...Lois Lane. After tonight's SV episode, owning the season 8 DVD set won't be a necessity for me. In order to get the REAL story, the story that's lasted over 70 years, the story that most people the world over recognize, I'll rely on the comics, and Superman movies. You know....the ones that feature Lois Lane....there's a reason for that.;) Guess SV didn't get the memo.:rolleyes:
Enjoy the re-write though. Hope it's worth it....not for me, I'm walking away as one very disappointed Superman fan.:( I'll leave the REAL interpretation for Christopher Reeve or Brandon Routh---and that last one I thought I'd never say!!!

Agreed!

Jack-El49
01-23-2009, 08:02 PM
The way Clark is with Lana is so different from any of the girls he's ever been with. The way they kiss is different .

Yeah, it kinda has to be different!

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Dang Jillian, your avi is scaring me to death!

Yours too Michele!

petitemimi
01-23-2009, 08:07 PM
So you think they spent the first 10 episodes of the season building up Clark and Lois' romantic relationship just so that they could throw it away the moment Lana walks on the scene? Lana and Clark had one romantic scene, Lois and Clark had the whole first half of the season. I don't think one scene is enough to convince me that they are changing the direction foreshadowed by the first 10 episodes of the season. But who knows, maybe people like you will be telling me "I told you so" a couple weeks from now. As I said eariler, time will tell!

OK, so let me get this straight. He's having a romantic relationship with Lois, then with Lana, then with Lois. I know that this is what will be happening. But it won't make any sense if Clark doesn't SAY SOMETHING for a change; because if he stays vague as always so that the showrunners can spare all ships, it will reflects badly on Clark. It already does. I'm a Clark fan and not a shipper; and I just hope that for once, those writers will care about the impact on Clark's character.
And I seriously hope that I'm wrong and that Clark will clearly show that clana is over because really, the way Clark is written regarding his love life, he sucks. And I say that as a huge Clark fan.

Loisdragon
01-23-2009, 08:12 PM
You guys are funny

petitemimi
01-23-2009, 08:20 PM
The way Clark is with Lana is so different from any of the girls he's ever been with. The way he looks at her and the way when they kiss is different from the way he kisses the other girls.

Agreed. Clark is a lot more boring with Lana. When he kisses other girls, it's a lot more exciting. But, hey, it's all a matter of opinion. :D

Minela
01-23-2009, 08:30 PM
Okay, can we move on from the Season 1 premise?

I mean, come on! How long can you drag something out? It's been 8 years, countless breakups, countless secrets and lies, and it's not getting any better. I mean, can somebody name one season without secrets and lies between these two?

And it's booooring. I mean, Lana said it herself, they aren't 14 anymore. What's with the rehash Talon scenes?

Why bring this up at all if we all know she'll be leaving in 3 episodes? She'll be gone, and it's back to square 1.

This is ridiculous.

Jack-El49
01-23-2009, 08:34 PM
Okay, can we move on from the Season 1 premise?

I mean, come on! How long can you drag something out? It's been 8 years, countless breakups, countless secrets and lies, and it's not getting any better. I mean, can somebody name one season without secrets and lies between these two?

And it's booooring. I mean, Lana said it herself, they aren't 14 anymore. What's with the rehash Talon scenes?

Why bring this up at all if we all know she'll be leaving in 3 episodes? She'll be gone, and it's back to square 1.

This is ridiculous.

ITA

Super
01-23-2009, 08:37 PM
I hated it the whole Clana scene. Hate Lana too, that *****. Can't wait for Lois to return and let the Clois romance begin.

LiLViLLiaN
01-23-2009, 08:39 PM
^^ Totally.

This person is a Fu-Fighter at heart!

Jack-El49
01-23-2009, 08:40 PM
I hated it the whole Clana scene. Hate Lana too, that *****. Can't wait for Lois to return and let the Clois romance begin.

Yep - the Clana is getting stale even for Clark!

koryaunka
01-23-2009, 08:40 PM
I loved it! The Clana kiss was well worth more than a seasons wait! :p

i totally agree! clana 4eva! i sort of like clois, but clana and lollie are better

susangail
01-23-2009, 08:43 PM
He'll figure it out. Unfortunately, we get to slog through it with him.

Jack-El49
01-23-2009, 08:46 PM
i totally agree! clana 4eva! i sort of like clois, but clana and lollie are better

I'm kinda waiting for Lana-Fu and Clark to realize they aren't meant for one another.

LiLViLLiaN
01-23-2009, 08:47 PM
Soon. She is hiding a secret once again I believe. Surprise!

amberdawn
01-23-2009, 08:49 PM
Yeah, please don't bash Erica's looks. Plus it's against the rules to bash the actors.

Vala
01-23-2009, 11:22 PM
Lana Lang has and always will be Clark Kent's first love and even though Clark does eventually end up with Lois he will always love Lana Lang, because you dont forget your first love.
That's right. Even in the comics. When Lana coming to the story, Clark get confuse between the girls.:D
Yeah for Lana!

WickedJenn
01-23-2009, 11:44 PM
MOD GENERAL NOTE:

10) DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD SHOULD AT ALL TIMES BE ABOUT THE SHOWS THEMSELVES OR THE FORUM TOPIC AT HAND..

This thread is for discussion of the Clark/Lana scenes in "Bulletproof". I have had to delete several posts that were very off-topic.

Kid Collins
01-24-2009, 06:20 AM
i rewatched the episode and it seemed to me there wasn't any spark with the kiss.


I thought the Clana kiss was hot.

Let me refresh your memory with lightened caps.

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet1jl7.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us
/my.php?image=bullet8ar8.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet8ar8.jpg)

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet10eq7.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet13ws2.jpg

http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet17qe8.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet31hb3.jpg

And these last two are right after the kiss. Clark doesn't look confused at all. Looking straight at Lana.

http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet33ot9.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet34mg9.jpg

velocity
01-24-2009, 07:33 AM
He doesn't look confused in any way.
MOD EDIT

wolverine316
01-24-2009, 08:45 AM
There is no question in my mind now that Lois will be second best because Lana won't be around. If there is a next season there is no way Clois would work with after what we saw in the final minutes. Pathetic. Are Al/Miles sneaking around on set? Sheesh.

Superman&Clana
01-24-2009, 09:13 AM
The way Clark looked in lana eyes after the kiss confirmed that he still loves her. So angry or not Lois will have to wait .... :-):-)

Clana Kent
01-24-2009, 09:18 AM
He doesn't look confused in any way.
MOD EDIT
MOD EDIT
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


The way Clark looked in lana eyes after the kiss confirmed that he still loves her. So angry or not Lois will have to wait .... :-):-)
That was a fantastic moment :D Did you notice their noses right after the kiss? That was really cute ;)

suzieQ
01-24-2009, 09:26 AM
I thought the Clana kiss was hot.

Let me refresh your memory with lightened caps.

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet1jl7.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us
/my.php?image=bullet8ar8.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet8ar8.jpg)

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet10eq7.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet13ws2.jpg

http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet17qe8.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet31hb3.jpg

And these last two are right after the kiss. Clark doesn't look confused at all. Looking straight at Lana.

http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet33ot9.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bullet34mg9.jpg

Thanks for the lightened caps. NO....Clark does not look in the least confused.....he WANTS Lana......and his eyes show it! They try to film the scene dark, but there is no question, that Clark wants her and NEEDS her........the kiss showed all the Love, and Desire for her. After everything.......the love doesn't die. He proved it right there, ....even after he asked Chloe that question......he answered his own question and put the cement on it. Clark made a choice right there, and he went for it.

Even if they tried to do a "Clark and Lois" it will never be believable in this series context! Maybe when Lois first came onto the scene 4 years ago......it would of made sense.....but now........they will FAIL!

Clana Kent
01-24-2009, 09:28 AM
For all Clana-fans:
Did you enjoy the Clana-scenes in Bulletproof?

I did, (of course :rolleyes:) The very last scene was absolutely stunning!
I don't really agree with the fact that Clark wants to give up the world for Lana, but I did like that Lana tried to talk some sense into him.

So, for the haters: It wasn't Lana who's holding Clark back.. It's Clark holding Clark back :p ;)

Let's discuss :)

batfinx
01-24-2009, 11:51 AM
MOD EDIT

I'll certainly agree the way Dean and Teri made out they put the Smallville ships to shame, but as to the Clana kiss, obviously people see what they want to see. That includes Clana fans and Cloisers or even Chlarkers for that matter. That's not uncommon. For me the Clana kiss was unusual because they both just stopped.

What do they want us to see?

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/batfinx222/smallville/bproof.jpg

That's the frame immediately before the screen went black. In fact I had to frame backward to get this capture. If I photoshopped Lex in where Clark is standing, Lana's expression would still work. There's no happiness or warmth in it at all. Clark's expression looks pretty much like it did when he said "so that's it then" in Bride. The kiss itself certainly wasn't as 'hot' as older kisses between them in previous seasons.

However, unlike others, I'm not going to assume it means they mutually realized the spark was no longer there. For all I know the next episode could take up where this one left off and they jump right into a passionate slobber fest. My only point is that they chose to stop the kiss and end with a stare down. At this point, either scenario could be true, or neither scenario could be true, but in either case these are the death throes of a doomed relationship regardless of what happens.

hero`s passion
01-24-2009, 12:14 PM
It was like it always was - VERY snotty!!!!!!!!!!)))) But not as bad as I thought, I think Clark will get over it, I like him in episode he was not all "in Lana-Fu-Fang" mood))))

velocity
01-24-2009, 12:16 PM
MOD EDIT
What are you talking about? :confused:

Alicia Chipy
01-24-2009, 02:12 PM
To me it seemed a kiss of desperation. A kiss in which both parties wish to recapture the passion they shared,but something just isn't quite right.
Blame it on Lexana, Bizarro,or secrets and lies,most times,'you can't go home again'. I hope both parties come to realize this AND discuss it,so true closure can be found.

Clana4Life
01-24-2009, 03:56 PM
The kiss was very sweet. At the end Clark kept his eyes closed for a while after the kiss, sort of still just enjoying the kiss they just shared and Lana gave him one last quick kiss before they pulled away. To me it looks like Clark is searching her eyes to see how she feels and to see if she wants to try again. And Lana seems hesitant, unsure. She loves him but doesn't know if she should stay.

ClanaDestinyObsession
01-24-2009, 07:08 PM
The kiss was very sweet. At the end Clark kept his eyes closed for a while after the kiss, sort of still just enjoying the kiss they just shared and Lana gave him one last quick kiss before they pulled away. To me it looks like Clark is searching her eyes to see how she feels and to see if she wants to try again. And Lana seems hesitant, unsure. She loves him but doesn't know if she should stay.
omigosh totally.

I thought it was full of passion. the look at the end was searching each other. not an empty look! I though it was the most WONDERFUL part of the season!!!

LONG LIVE CLana!

petitemimi
01-24-2009, 08:27 PM
It was the most boring kiss ever. it was so obvious that Clark was trying to find a passion that wasn't there. It's so pathetic. Poor Clark! I'm sure he will see his mistake very soon.

celita
01-24-2009, 08:31 PM
I'll certainly agree the way Dean and Teri made out they put the Smallville ships to shame, but as to the Clana kiss, obviously people see what they want to see. That includes Clana fans and Cloisers or even Chlarkers for that matter. That's not uncommon. For me the Clana kiss was unusual because they both just stopped.

What do they want us to see?

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/batfinx222/smallville/bproof.jpg

That's the frame immediately before the screen went black. In fact I had to frame backward to get this capture. If I photoshopped Lex in where Clark is standing, Lana's expression would still work. There's no happiness or warmth in it at all. Clark's expression looks pretty much like it did when he said "so that's it then" in Bride. The kiss itself certainly wasn't as 'hot' as older kisses between them in previous seasons.

However, unlike others, I'm not going to assume it means they mutually realized the spark was no longer there. For all I know the next episode could take up where this one left off and they jump right into a passionate slobber fest. My only point is that they chose to stop the kiss and end with a stare down. At this point, either scenario could be true, or neither scenario could be true, but in either case these are the death throes of a doomed relationship regardless of what happens.
God I love that screen cap....:cool:and Obviously I agree with you in your interpretation of it

SmallvilleMan
01-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Clark's expression looks pretty much like it did when he said "so that's it then" in Bride. The kiss itself certainly wasn't as 'hot' as older kisses between them in previous seasons.


So now we're going to pick out expressions of Clark from other scenes? As for the kiss being as "hot", look pretty passionate to me, just as the one at the end of season 6 before Lana faked her death. Not every kisses is going to be them ripping their faces off.


That's the frame immediately before the screen went black. In fact I had to frame backward to get this capture. If I photoshopped Lex in where Clark is standing, Lana's expression would still work.

Based on what? She hates Lex and her look wasn't one of hate. So I don't see how you could do that.


My only point is that they chose to stop the kiss and end with a stare down. At this point, either scenario could be true, or neither scenario could be true, but in either case these are the death throes of a doomed relationship regardless of what happens.

Lol the death throes.........Hindsight is a beautiful thing isn't it. And from my POV only one of them stopped kissing and that was Lana.

Clark on the otherhand seemed very determined........Instead of going on a split second(and that's what it was) expression. I'll choose to go on what Clark had to say and the way he acted.

Ellsbury
01-25-2009, 03:37 AM
This last scene drove me to despair: how was it possible to put a Clana kiss in the middle of a season that had been all-clois? But I started to think and suddenly it hit me... it's just Smallville, the kingdom of lightswitch and incoherence!

Timester
01-25-2009, 04:37 AM
This last scene drove me to despair: how was it possible to put a Clana kiss in the middle of a season that had been all-clois?

Lois-sided Clois. Nothing illogical there.

fortress7081
01-25-2009, 04:41 AM
As long as there is Clana its always be BEAUTIFUL....;);););)

kentfamily
01-25-2009, 04:54 AM
Sunny8--------

Quote:
Originally Posted by kentfamily
A guy can love two women at the same time just like a woman can too. I guess CK just likes Lana a little more than Lois. When Lana dumps CK he will go to Lois, his second choice.
Nothing wrong with being stuck on someone that is still in love with him.
Loved the music they used for the last scene, I actually loved the last scene with Clana. CK wants that connection with Lana and she is still trying to push him away(she didnt have to say it in words) which she is still hiding something from him.


You SAID:

What makes you think Lois will accept him? Lois has been the love interest of billionaires. Clark (to her knowledge) is just a simple farm boy. She could get over him easily. Its not like they actually kissed or anything.


And I will reply:

????huh!!!??? Did you actually read what I wrote? What makes you think I said anything about Lois? What makes you think it was about Lois? What makes you think she is not in love with Clark? Said something about second choice. What makes you think I was talking about Lois? This is about Clark.

mayumi
01-25-2009, 05:55 AM
one thing to bring up here is in crimson, clark mentions how he likes kissing lois, keep chloe in his back pocket but was still in love with lana. after the recent episode, i get the hints that clark is not so much in love with lana as he thought he would be and he prolly wishes he was kissing lois at that moment cause he likes kissing lois.

Kid Collins
01-25-2009, 06:30 AM
For me the Clana kiss was unusual because they both just stopped.

I knew the kiss was finished when their foreheads touched. Actually if you watch that in slow motion, you'll see Clark leaning towards Lana again like he was going for another kiss. And it's Lana that backed away.

I have a cap of it in my previous post.


What do they want us to see?

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/batfinx222/smallville/bproof.jpg

That's the frame immediately before the screen went black. In fact I had to frame backward to get this capture. If I photoshopped Lex in where Clark is standing, Lana's expression would still work. There's no happiness or warmth in it at all.

I don't see that at all. Right after the kiss the expression on their faces tell me they both liked the kiss. Check my caps out.

Since it's Lana that's unsure after the kiss. She didn't look at Clark right away after the kiss. My interpretation is that Clark is looking at Lana intensely to get her to GIVE IN and he's watching for her reaction. It's almost like a predatory stare. It's typical Clark stare that he gives her once in awhile.
Examples below

http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clanaphantomjb3.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stare2kc4.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stare1yu7.jpg

after those predatory stares you still have this pic below that shows how affected they are with each other.
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stare4nk2.jpg



Clark's expression looks pretty much like it did when he said "so that's it then" in Bride.

That doesn't mean anything since Clark was looking at Lana THIS way while she was in the hospital. Looks like love to me.

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bc102wj5.png



The kiss itself certainly wasn't as 'hot' as older kisses between them in previous seasons.

I agree. But I think this kiss was suppose to be a hello, getting to know you again kiss. It's suppose to be more about love than lust. But you only have to look at their faces while their kissing to know they were both feeling it.

petitemimi
01-25-2009, 06:34 AM
We all know that Clark will switch back to Lois in 2 episodes, as fast as he switched to Lana. Eh, gotta keep the soap going.

Kid Collins
01-25-2009, 06:35 AM
We all know that Clark will switch back to Lois in 2 episodes, as fast as he switched to Lana. Eh, gotta keep the soap going.

Clark's feelings for Lana was never lightswitched. It was developed slowly for over 7 seasons!

Lightswitched ONLY applies to Clois.

KSiteTV
01-25-2009, 06:38 AM
I feel like riding the Clana train again is a step backwards for the show at this time because you know it's not going to end well and you know it's only temporary, but I will say there was a brief moment in "Bulletproof" that I loved - when Clark went into the Talon, I forgot what Lana said, but it was kind of smartalecky and fun.

I wish Clark and Lana had that kind of non-angsty banter more often. So much it's like the scenes are awkward for awkwardness's sake, and when Clark and Lana - and Tom and Kristin playing them - are allowed to have some fun, I think it makes for better material.

Alania
01-25-2009, 06:49 AM
Clark's feelings for Lana was never lightswitched. It was developed slowly for over 7 seasons!

Lightswitched ONLY applies to Clois.

You mean dragged for seven years? I don't think lightswitched can be apllied to a four year old growing relationship nor to a seven year old one. And from what i understood in Maddie's post, she wasn't deffending any ship, she just was just saying that Clark kent looks more like a soap handsome stud having to choose between this or that girl rather than a Superhero with greater concerns in life. If it wasn't for all that Clark kent we've seen in Bulletproof, the ending looked like a soap, and a bad one. :p

KSiteTV
01-25-2009, 06:50 AM
Please don't turn yet another thread into a shipper war. :( (Not speaking to you Alania specifically but everyone)

celita
01-25-2009, 06:54 AM
why she had to bring Clois in the mix? it was perfectly good comment untli she brought the Clois bashing.

Please you can make your point without bringing the other ship into the mix.

Aren't thsese arguments strong enough that you have to bring down other ship to make yours look better?

This are the kind of post that start the ship war, your girl is better than mine etc.

If you don't want to start an argument don't provoke fans of pther character making commnets like this. Unless that was your intention to begin with. You KNOW that fans will come and defend

ETA: What Craig said :D

supes0
01-25-2009, 06:59 AM
I feel like riding the Clana train again is a step backwards for the show at this time because you know it's not going to end well and you know it's only temporary, but I will say there was a brief moment in "Bulletproof" that I loved - when Clark went into the Talon, I forgot what Lana said, but it was kind of smartalecky and fun.

I wish Clark and Lana had that kind of non-angsty banter more often. So much it's like the scenes are awkward for awkwardness's sake, and when Clark and Lana - and Tom and Kristin playing them - are allowed to have some fun, I think it makes for better material.

Her quip about coffee when you can't sleep? I liked that. I agree, when the angst is removed from the equation, the two of them are fun to watch.

I hope this clana redux is leading us to a dignified closure for both of them with no angst ridden sacrifice on either end. My fingers are crossed!

Alania
01-25-2009, 07:03 AM
Please don't turn yet another thread into a shipper war. :( (Not speaking to you Alania specifically but everyone)


No problem, Craig, i know it wasn't just for me. :) I respect all ships if the others respect mine but usually that's not how it works. We can make a point without being agressive and when i see someone offending Lois and Clark's relationship, i step up, can't help it.

Timester
01-25-2009, 07:04 AM
Her quip about coffee when you can't sleep? I liked that. I agree, when the angst is removed from the equation, the two of them are fun to watch.

That's pretty much the same that I tried to explain to a friend of mine. This time, there was no Clana angst, nonewhatsoever.

That's also why many of the "outrage" against Clana we saw on the last couple is exaggerated. They had a nice talk and they kissed, that's all. Clark even had an epiphany, one that will define his life in the future.

celita
01-25-2009, 07:06 AM
epiphany!!! t/hat's the perfect word and that face after the kiss was exactly that!

Wait are you talking over all or about the last 3 minutes?

Well never mind the wrd also works for my theory thanks. I actually didn't care about the kiss I think I was more angry about the "wrold doesn't have to come first/we are 14 again" combo.

Yes Clark yur are emotionaly a 14 year old...I give you that

Timester
01-25-2009, 07:15 AM
epiphany!!! t/hat's the perfect word and that face after the kiss was exactly that!

Wait are you talking over all or about the last 3 minutes?

Well never mind the wrd also works for my theory thanks. I actually didn't care about the kiss I think I was more angry about the "wrold doesn't have to come first/we are 14 again" combo.

Yes Clark yur are emotionaly a 14 year old...I give you that

The "14 years old" was reference to how all begin, when they were 14 years old, the seasons 1-2. Not that they were back to being 14 years old. It was nostalgia, nothing more.

And the epiphany IS the "world doesn't have to come first", because it really doesn't. That is what defines his marriage with Lois, that both world and Lois comes equal. That's what Clark finally understood, after seeing Danny.

supes0
01-25-2009, 07:20 AM
The "14 years old" was reference to how all begin, when they were 14 years old, the season 1-2. Not that they were back to being 14 years old. It was nostalgia, nothing more.

And the epiphany IS the "world doesn't have to come first", because it really doesn't. That is what defines his marriage with Lois, that both world and Lois comes equal. That's what Clark finally understood, after seeing Danny.

I agree. That this kiss took place in the coffee shop was good symbolism. This is how it started and in that context Clark and Lana's kiss made perfect sense. Clark is trying to recapture those halcyon days gone by. In order to move forward he needs to make peace with his past, and in my opinion, that scene was the beginning of the process.

The epiphany was indeed he doesn't have to sacrifice personal happiness in order to be a superhero. He can find balance and do both.

This was a well written layered episode. We saw Clark grow a lot.

batfinx
01-25-2009, 10:10 AM
So now we're going to pick out expressions of Clark from other scenes? As for the kiss being as "hot", look pretty passionate to me, just as the one at the end of season 6 before Lana faked her death. Not every kisses is going to be them ripping their faces off.

My expectation was that it would've deepened into something hot rather than stopping abruptly. Like I said, they could pick this up right where it left off in the next episode and they could get passionate like the old days, but my point is that it was an unexpected choice to have the kiss just stop.


Based on what? She hates Lex and her look wasn't one of hate. So I don't see how you could do that.

The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. At the height of Lana's hatred for Lex in Wrath and wanting to kill him, she got into a kiss with him. Love and hate are about passion, Lana has no passion in that screen capture.


Lol the death throes.........Hindsight is a beautiful thing isn't it

Fortunately hindsight isn't necessary with their relationship. Just watching it unfold in a linear fashion is enough to come to the conclusion that it was very destructive for both of them.


And from my POV only one of them stopped kissing and that was Lana.

Isn't that all it takes? One of them? It could mean Lana realized what's really going on with Clark even if he doesn't want to acknowledge it yet. It could mean she stopped because she hasn't been honest with him again and wanted to take a moment to explain what's going on in her life currently. A lot of scenarios are possible, but none of them will lead to happily ever after. That's not hindsight, that's foresight.


I don't see that at all. Right after the kiss the expression on their faces tell me they both liked the kiss. Check my caps out.

I'm sure they both liked the kiss, most people do like kisses, but the kiss isn't the question. Why they stopped is the question. I'm not out to kill anyone's buzz because there's two episodes with Lana left and I'd tend to believe they'd end Clana in the last of the five episodes, not the penultimate one next week. However I do expect some soul searching and motivation analysis from them.


Since it's Lana that's unsure after the kiss. She didn't look at Clark right away after the kiss. My interpretation is that Clark is looking at Lana intensely to get her to GIVE IN and he's watching for her reaction. It's almost like a predatory stare. It's typical Clark stare that he gives her once in awhile.

Just the thought of "give in" is telling in itself. It's one reason their relationship has failed over and over again. Having that attitude as an impetuous teenager is one thing, but as an adult it doesn't work that way anymore. There's too much at stake and too many responsibilities and harsher consequences for poor judgment. Clark has no clue what's going on with Lana right now, but he doesn't care because he has an old idyllic image ingrained in his head. He doesn't want to stop and think because he knows if he does he'll realize they've both outgrown it.


That doesn't mean anything since Clark was looking at Lana THIS way while she was in the hospital. Looks like love to me.

There'll always be some form of love there, just not romantic love once they move on from each other. Chloe still loves Clark and vice versa, but not romantically.


Clark's feelings for Lana was never lightswitched. It was developed slowly for over 7 seasons!

I saw it self destruct over the last 7 years. The last two years were particularly destructive. I think that's the point of this five part arc, to make them realize romance is out of the question, but that they can be friends and not suffer anymore.


That's pretty much the same that I tried to explain to a friend of mine. This time, there was no Clana angst, nonewhatsoever.

I agree. There is no romantic pressure in Bulletproof, at least until the kiss and the fate of the kiss is still unknown. Lana has a secret, but that's fine when they're just friends. She owes him no explanations right now as just a friend. If they try and rekindle a romance, then the secret becomes a problem and stumbling block. If she tells him the secret and he thinks it's too dangerous, we're off to the angst races again. On the other hand, as a friend, he can think it's too dangerous all he wants, but it's none of his business. He has no equal say in her decisions no more than she does in his.


his is how it started and in that context Clark and Lana's kiss made perfect sense. Clark is trying to recapture those halcyon days gone by. In order to move forward he needs to make peace with his past, and in my opinion, that scene was the beginning of the process.

I agree. Well put.

paolinki25
01-25-2009, 10:16 AM
Well, I'd vote for an option like "I didn't like it AT ALL". :)

supes0
01-25-2009, 11:27 AM
My expectation was that it would've deepened into something hot rather than stopping abruptly. Like I said, they could pick this up right where it left off in the next episode and they could get passionate like the old days, but my point is that it was an unexpected choice to have the kiss just stop.

Exactly. It was a strange way to end the episode, I saw it as a romantic cliffhanger.




I'd tend to believe they'd end Clana in the last of the five episodes, not the penultimate one next week. However I do expect some soul searching and motivation analysis from them.

I'm actually betting on the penultimate episode. I agree, I expect a discussion either way.




Clark has no clue what's going on with Lana right now, but he doesn't care because he has an old idyllic image ingrained in his head. He doesn't want to stop and think because he knows if he does he'll realize they've both outgrown it.

Well said.




There'll always be some form of love there, just not romantic love once they move on from each other. Chloe still loves Clark and vice versa, but not romantically.

Exactly. Clark loves Lana that will never change. What changes is the form, it evolves in to a deep friendship. Which is why I'm think the kiss in Power will be a goodbye to their romance and Requiem will begin their lifelong friendship

Clana4Life
01-25-2009, 09:02 PM
I knew the kiss was finished when their foreheads touched. Actually if you watch that in slow motion, you'll see Clark leaning towards Lana again like he was going for another kiss. And it's Lana that backed away.

I have a cap of it in my previous post.



I don't see that at all. Right after the kiss the expression on their faces tell me they both liked the kiss. Check my caps out.

Since it's Lana that's unsure after the kiss. She didn't look at Clark right away after the kiss. My interpretation is that Clark is looking at Lana intensely to get her to GIVE IN and he's watching for her reaction. It's almost like a predatory stare. It's typical Clark stare that he gives her once in awhile.
Examples below

http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clanaphantomjb3.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stare2kc4.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stare1yu7.jpg

after those predatory stares you still have this pic below that shows how affected they are with each other.
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stare4nk2.jpg




That doesn't mean anything since Clark was looking at Lana THIS way while she was in the hospital. Looks like love to me.

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bc102wj5.png




I agree. But I think this kiss was suppose to be a hello, getting to know you again kiss. It's suppose to be more about love than lust. But you only have to look at their faces while their kissing to know they were both feeling it.


You did a good job in citing proof for your beliefs. Good screen caps. I can see what you mean from looking at those pics. He does give her some intense stares. It will be interesting to see what people think after seeing Power. ;) Clana seems a far cry from developing a friendship or even coming to real closure. I suppose they could lightswitch that, but these last few episodes have given us no indication that Clark wants friendship or closure. Lana is confused. She wants Clark, but also wants him to save the world. Her lines are reminiscent of what she said in Action. "I just want to hold on to you and never let you go, but I don't want to be what's keeping you here." It seems like this time Clark is trying to hold on to her and save the world. Honestly, as a supporter and fan of Clark, I want the guy to have what he wants, not what I want him to want. I love Clana. I think they are star-crossed lovers, destined in the stars. He's the Heathcliff to her Cathy, but when the time comes and Clark wants to be with Lois, I'll support him in that too.

boingo
01-25-2009, 11:40 PM
As a Clark and Lana fan, I really enjoyed it. It is a whole lot better than some of the Clark and Lana interaction in season 7 imo.

Clana4Life
01-26-2009, 07:04 PM
As a Clark and Lana fan, I really enjoyed it. It is a whole lot better than some of the Clark and Lana interaction in season 7 imo.

We are finally getting the Season 7 eps that we really wanted.

Sunny8
01-26-2009, 08:36 PM
Sunny8--------You SAID:

What makes you think Lois will accept him? Lois has been the love interest of billionaires. Clark (to her knowledge) is just a simple farm boy. She could get over him easily. Its not like they actually kissed or anything.


And I will reply:

????huh!!!??? Did you actually read what I wrote? What makes you think I said anything about Lois? What makes you think it was about Lois? What makes you think she is not in love with Clark? Said something about second choice. What makes you think I was talking about Lois? This is about Clark.

You didn't have to say anything about Lois. Clark only has two women in his life at the moment that would be his love interest: Lana and Lois. That is why I mentioned Lois. After Lana he is with Lois. Unless they bring in Lori Lemaris, which I don't think they will.

CLanaF23
01-27-2009, 12:10 AM
LOVED all the Clana moments.. they both have grown up and it you can tell the still love each other.

zanaamen
01-27-2009, 06:29 AM
Clana in that ep like 14 again, and they still have feelling for each other
that kinda episode will never forget no matter what happen next, I just dont care
this is what all Clana’s Fan wanted since season 7

Mickey_Bickey
01-27-2009, 06:57 AM
I agree. That this kiss took place in the coffee shop was good symbolism. This is how it started and in that context Clark and Lana's kiss made perfect sense. Clark is trying to recapture those halcyon days gone by. In order to move forward he needs to make peace with his past, and in my opinion, that scene was the beginning of the process.

The epiphany was indeed he doesn't have to sacrifice personal happiness in order to be a superhero. He can find balance and do both.

This was a well written layered episode. We saw Clark grow a lot.

Good post, and I couldn't agree more!:) It's good to see Clark's character finally moving on as well as Lana's.

shy175223
02-03-2009, 03:02 PM
You didn't have to say anything about Lois. Clark only has two women in his life at the moment that would be his love interest: Lana and Lois. That is why I mentioned Lois. After Lana he is with Lois. Unless they bring in Lori Lemaris, which I don't think they will.you might never know.;)