View Full Version : Metallic pieces would tear through Chloe's skin and organs
davidbrenton
01-16-2009, 07:55 PM
Anyone else notice that metallic pieces being pulled from chloe's body with magnets would absolutely tear through her skin and organs in the process of coming out?
What special ability do they have to magically take out metallic parts with SEEMLESS extraction from the body?
I didn't hear that explained.
psyko69
01-16-2009, 08:02 PM
Suspension. Of. Disbelief.
Because we all know this was the most unrealistic thing in this episode.
Don't nitpick. Nothing about Superman, save for his message and inspiration, is realistic.
Of all the things to complain about, you'd think a Super-powered alien would top the unrealistic factor more than this.
This show does what it needs to serve the story. The universe its in has absolutely no need for photo-realism.
Off all the things in this episode...
This is nitpicky.
davidbrenton
01-16-2009, 08:05 PM
Yeah, it's nit picky. Doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a thread.
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Alright, Who chose "It makes sense...I swear!!??"
A super-power alien is at least not a contradiction of itself. magnetizing metallic parts out of a person assuming no harm is being done extracting them is a failure in logic. Superpowered alien is a stretch, but logically sound.
SORRY.
psyko69
01-16-2009, 08:12 PM
If you want an explanation, just look at Cosmic Boy's power.
He said he'd never done anything like it before. Not everything is going to be explained in every minute detail if the episodes are to remain under 40 days long.
Again: Suspension. Of. Disbelief.
Iluvgreen
01-16-2009, 08:13 PM
Don't pay too much attention to it. Chloe's alive. That's all that matters.
SV'S_immortal_hero
01-16-2009, 08:49 PM
Anyone else notice that metallic pieces being pulled from chloe's body with magnets would absolutely tear through her skin and organs in the process of coming out?
What special ability do they have to magically take out metallic parts with SEEMLESS extraction from the body?
I didn't hear that explained.
granted rokk was willing to kill chloe to save the world we're not talking about magneto here from xmen who doesnt care if he injures or kills people simply because of his inferiority beliefs, clark was right there making sure chloe wouldnt be harmed!
rokk after what we seen must of been simply focusing on making sure he didnt! harm chloe
no wonder rokk seemed nervous extracting brainaic can you imagine what rokk must have been thinking remembering clark grabbing garth for simply suggesting! chloe dieing
rokk to self ~gulps~ *dont hurt chloe or you will get more than just grabbed by clark!*
mlauenstein
01-16-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm not sure how much space there is between human cells. If it's more than a nanometre then the nano-bits should fit through.
ColdPlay3r
01-16-2009, 08:56 PM
expert at the game "operation" lol
omegadirective
01-16-2009, 08:58 PM
all the nanites seemed to exit through Chloe's mouth anyway.
davidbrenton
01-16-2009, 09:28 PM
all the nanites seemed to exit through Chloe's mouth anyway.
Yes, exit. How did they get to that exit point? They did not all start at the mouth. There are a ton of organs and tissue to pass for nanites to get to the mouth.
unfocused
01-16-2009, 09:34 PM
Rokk was careful.
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Of all the things to complain about, you'd think a Super-powered alien would top the unrealistic factor more than this.
:lol:
moviefan2k4
01-16-2009, 09:48 PM
all the nanites seemed to exit through Chloe's mouth anyway.Speaking of which, the visual FX in that scene reminded me of Supernatural. I'm not a fan of it, but my sister is, so I recognized the "smoke from mouth" moment.
FlashInSV
01-17-2009, 10:40 AM
No, really, it makes sense! Rokk is obviously a master of magnets and such.
Humor me for a second. He actually guided the magnetic pieces to exit her mouth, instead of simply jumping up (and through -yuk!) the entire Chloe.
(He also didn't want to face Clark's wrath if something happened to Chloe.)
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Yes, exit. How did they get to that exit point? They did not all start at the mouth. There are a ton of organs and tissue to pass for nanites to get to the mouth.
Okay, now I will have to pull the "It's FICTION" card. :lol:
ClarkyBoy14
01-17-2009, 10:45 AM
If you want an explanation, just look at Cosmic Boy's power.
He said he'd never done anything like it before. Not everything is going to be explained in every minute detail if the episodes are to remain under 40 days long.
Again: Suspension. Of. Disbelief.
A forty day long episode? That would be interesting. :p
j/k
davidbrenton
01-17-2009, 10:52 AM
[QUOTE=psyko69;4340685]If you want an explanation, just look at Cosmic Boy's power.
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Cosmic Boy's Power:
He can manipulate, repel or attract metal objects of varying sizes. Naturally, the more metal is in an object the easier it is for him to affect magnetically. Cosmic Boy has been show to pull large iron meteors and satellites down from space with minimal effort. He can use his magnetic power on rocks that contain iron ore to pull or use them a projectiles. He can also magnetize metal objects so that they become magnets themselves and stick make them stick to other metal objects. His power cannot affect non-magnetic metals, such as aluminium and gold, or organic substances like wood or flesh.
Okay. I looked. Where is the explanation? I get he can pull metal from something. I don't get how he turns that into a matterless structure to leave her body unharmed.
moviefan2k4
01-17-2009, 12:41 PM
If his powers are similar to Magneto, then it stands to reason he could probably break down the metal shards at a molecular level, thereby creating the "dust" or smoke we see in the episode.
Just another wild assumption. :lol:
Bizarrolover
01-17-2009, 01:17 PM
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all the nanites seemed to exit through Chloe's mouth anyway.
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it was like a super electromagnetic belch.
shase
01-17-2009, 02:31 PM
If we are being so realistic, how could he separate the metal that is part of brainiac from the iron that belongs to chloe's body.she would be anemic afterwards. xD
THE"Lurker"
01-17-2009, 02:35 PM
I guess every Episode needs its nonsense threads:rolleyes:
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 05:54 PM
well let's just say it was ridiculously dangerous and entered into way too lightly
so many things could have gone wrong...
HeartChakraBabe
01-17-2009, 06:02 PM
Whatever, it's Smallville. I've learned to overlook these things. :lol:
unfocused
01-17-2009, 06:19 PM
well let's just say it was ridiculously dangerous and entered into way too lightly
so many things could have gone wrong...
It was either that or killing Chloe. What would you have chosen?
As for how Rokk got the nanites out of Chloe without damaging her... well I like the dust theory. And as far as we know, BrainIAC's physical... whatever... could have been in her stomach or lungs, making it very possible to be extracted without harming her body.
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 06:27 PM
all i am saying is that he had never done it before... he had never tried anything that focused before... and they had no idea exactly how Brainiac was possessing Chloe... so the immediate eagerness and ease with which it was decided seemed a little off to me
i don't see it as a huge plot hole, but i can see why people think there were risks too it
as far as we have ever seen, brainiac has been in a sort of liquidy form... i have no idea what his actual posession would be like. could be that he had replaced all the fluid in her brain with himself in liquid form... who knows
RedKRules
01-17-2009, 06:30 PM
It was just another WTH moment, which I am so used to :lol: .... I didnīt look too much into it, cause I really liked the episode as whole :)
unfocused
01-17-2009, 06:30 PM
Of course there were risks. But they needed to be fast about extracting BrainIAC from Chloe, there wasn't enough time to sit and pray and hope that Rokk would be able to do it right.
Plot hole? :lol:
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 06:45 PM
why couldnt they make time?
why couldnt they hit brainiac with another blast?
don't get me wrong, i'm glad it worked, but they were lucky it did
optinox
01-17-2009, 07:02 PM
well technically it could've been done with no harm to chloe. Brainiac can break down and become smaller than nano technology, so small that his remains would come out of chloes pores, no pain, no blood, as if she sweat it out. It accumulated into a ball because they were using electricity and magentism, creating electromagnetic energy to extract and control the matter, which in this case was remains of brainiac inside chloe. Everything in smallville is fantasy like, for instance kal-el from krypton living on earth in smallville, or crystals that build fortress of solitudes, so chloe not bleeding or anything is very plausable with how they removed brainiac. And obviously she was somewhat invulnerable while being under the influence of brainiac, she had super strength, speed, i assume she had invulnerability as well. so they could say she had that ability until he was fully removed, thus the reason she had no cuts, or anything like that.
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 07:04 PM
well your theory still depends in where exactly Brainiac was inside her body... and if he was able to 'cling on' to her body parts and they were being pulled from her body... which obviously he wasn't :lol:
optinox
01-17-2009, 07:18 PM
I don't doubt brainiac could crush organs from inside anyone he infects but in this case i don't think he was "clinging" onto chloes body parts...he can make himself so small that he can enter or Infect others in numerous ways, including through the pores. I would think he could attach himself to organs however i don't think he was clinging onto her organs like a leach, i would speculate tha he would enter the blood stream and basically be like cells roaming around her blood. Brainiac wasn't fully destroyed, nor was he fully back. What we seen was the remains that clark got out of chloe, except brainiac needs power, or intelligence to help fuel him, this is the reason why the ball was bigger than the initial amount that left chloe when clark took her to the fortress. He was using chloe as a vessel to bring back all his remains or provide him with enough fuel to bring himself back. Brainiac was resisting not so much clinging, he still had control over chloe until he was fully removed from her body. But this is where the magnetism comes in, they basically combined there powers to extract brainiac without hurting chloe. In other words, if you got shot with a tazer, you'd have no control over your body, thats what they did to brainiac, then used magnetic energy to pull up out of chloes pores. After he started to power back up, he tried to fight back, meaning pull himself back into chloe, but he was no match for magnetic energy carefully pulling him out of chloe, while being harmed by electricity, which prevented him from fighting back or causing blood, ripped out organs, ect.
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 07:21 PM
where are you getting all this information?
and if brainiac was indeed in the blood stream, then to suck the particals out through her mouth they would have to somehow get through the arteries and veins, into her lungs and out of her mouth...
unfocused
01-17-2009, 07:24 PM
why couldnt they make time?
why couldnt they hit brainiac with another blast?
don't get me wrong, i'm glad it worked, but they were lucky it did
So, they should have kept hitting BrainIAC with blasts over and over until Rokk experimented with that level of concentration on someone else enough to the point to where you would be satisfied and sure he would be ready to work on extracting BrainIAC from Chloe? :lol: Hey I have an idea! How about we do what's best for the world and NOT allow BrainIAC to live any longer as a threat to humanity! Chloe would agree that her life should never be considered over billions of others. Acting fast was the right choice, Clark put enough trust in the Legion and it turned out that he was right to do so.
well technically it could've been done with no harm to chloe. Brainiac can break down and become smaller than nano technology, so small that his remains would come out of chloes pores, no pain, no blood, as if she sweat it out. It accumulated into a ball because they were using electricity and magentism, creating electromagnetic energy to extract and control the matter, which in this case was remains of brainiac inside chloe. Everything in smallville is fantasy like, for instance kal-el from krypton living on earth in smallville, or crystals that build fortress of solitudes, so chloe not bleeding or anything is very plausable with how they removed brainiac. And obviously she was somewhat invulnerable while being under the influence of brainiac, she had super strength, speed, i assume she had invulnerability as well. so they could say she had that ability until he was fully removed, thus the reason she had no cuts, or anything like that.
Good point. It looked like Rokk turned the nanites into dust, which wouldn't hurt Chloe anyway.
well your theory still depends in where exactly Brainiac was inside her body... and if he was able to 'cling on' to her body parts and they were being pulled from her body... which obviously he wasn't :lol:
Where BrainIAC was wouldn't matter since something so small would easily pass through Chloe's body. That was his point....
zorasuperman
01-17-2009, 07:26 PM
lol its smallville
the home of the strange
and weird :D
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 07:36 PM
Where BrainIAC was wouldn't matter since something so small would easily pass through Chloe's body. That was his point....
how does it get from her blood to her lungs to being sucked out of her mouth, in seconds, forcefully, with no damage?
how would it get from her brain, to being sucked out her mouth, in seconds, forcefully, with no damage?
unfocused
01-17-2009, 07:44 PM
How do you keep asking the same question after it's been answered?
How do you keep asking the same question after it's been answered?
Showmaster
01-17-2009, 07:47 PM
Duuh.
Chloe heals, its no problem.
Or perhaps Braniac left all the pieces in her throat and nostrals..:)
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 07:50 PM
How do you keep asking the same question after it's been answered?
How do you keep asking the same question after it's been answered?
you haven't answered it...
seriously, how does kryptonian metal come from the blood stream and then out of the mouth, with no sign of blood or damage...
if you've answered this question and i've missed it somehow i'm sorry... but i havent seen it
ginnyfan
01-17-2009, 07:52 PM
This thread title makes me want to cry. Well, that certainly would have topped the chest carving for goriest visual ever on Smallville.
Hopefulsuicide
01-17-2009, 07:54 PM
:lol:
unfocused
01-17-2009, 09:13 PM
you haven't answered it...
seriously, how does kryptonian metal come from the blood stream and then out of the mouth, with no sign of blood or damage...
if you've answered this question and i've missed it somehow i'm sorry... but i havent seen it
I didn't answer it, optinox did.
well technically it could've been done with no harm to chloe. Brainiac can break down and become smaller than nano technology, so small that his remains would come out of chloes pores, no pain, no blood, as if she sweat it out. It accumulated into a ball because they were using electricity and magentism, creating electromagnetic energy to extract and control the matter, which in this case was remains of brainiac inside chloe. Everything in smallville is fantasy like, for instance kal-el from krypton living on earth in smallville, or crystals that build fortress of solitudes, so chloe not bleeding or anything is very plausable with how they removed brainiac. And obviously she was somewhat invulnerable while being under the influence of brainiac, she had super strength, speed, i assume she had invulnerability as well. so they could say she had that ability until he was fully removed, thus the reason she had no cuts, or anything like that.
I don't doubt brainiac could crush organs from inside anyone he infects but in this case i don't think he was "clinging" onto chloes body parts...he can make himself so small that he can enter or Infect others in numerous ways, including through the pores. I would think he could attach himself to organs however i don't think he was clinging onto her organs like a leach, i would speculate tha he would enter the blood stream and basically be like cells roaming around her blood. Brainiac wasn't fully destroyed, nor was he fully back. What we seen was the remains that clark got out of chloe, except brainiac needs power, or intelligence to help fuel him, this is the reason why the ball was bigger than the initial amount that left chloe when clark took her to the fortress. He was using chloe as a vessel to bring back all his remains or provide him with enough fuel to bring himself back. Brainiac was resisting not so much clinging, he still had control over chloe until he was fully removed from her body. But this is where the magnetism comes in, they basically combined there powers to extract brainiac without hurting chloe. In other words, if you got shot with a tazer, you'd have no control over your body, thats what they did to brainiac, then used magnetic energy to pull up out of chloes pores. After he started to power back up, he tried to fight back, meaning pull himself back into chloe, but he was no match for magnetic energy carefully pulling him out of chloe, while being harmed by electricity, which prevented him from fighting back or causing blood, ripped out organs, ect.
where are you getting all this information?
Probably not the same place you got the "clinging on to" information. Because that's just a guess, whereas Rokk having control over magnetism is actually a fact. If he can manipulate metal into dust, it wouldn't hurt Chloe because it wouldn't be sharp. I'm sure she'd feel discomfort while Rokk was forcing the dust through open airwaves in her body, but he can control it enough to not rip through her body (which is what he was trying to prevent).
Also, I never said BrainIAC was in her bloodstream and I really don't think that to be true. I said he could very well have been in her lungs or stomach, or any accessible part of her body. Truth is, that is never going to be explained because it's minor and there are far more important and interesting details that most of us want to see instead.
BrainIAC needed to be removed quickly, Chloe needed to be kept alive, Clark needed to trust the Legion in doing all of this right. Mission accomplished.
optinox
01-17-2009, 10:04 PM
how does it get from her blood to her lungs to being sucked out of her mouth, in seconds, forcefully, with no damage?
how would it get from her brain, to being sucked out her mouth, in seconds, forcefully, with no damage?
They didn't forcefully suck brainiac out, they were careful, did you not here the legion say they've never concentrated on using there abilities that precisely before? Anyways its like sweat, perspiration from your breath, if brainiac is like liquid the smallest particle would be extracted with combination of electricity/magnetism. I have a background in electrical engineering, so i already understand how this could be applied and would work, and to answer how this whole process would happen, well magentism and electricity have other properties to them. Brainiac is not metal, he's not quite like the T-1000 from Terminator 2, his molecular structure is more of a liquid than anything, but can manifest into sold form as well, and duplicate, copy himself, infect, just like an actual computer could do. I can't explain it to you unless you know the basics in electrical and magentic properties. try getting shocked by a tazer and see how much control you have over you body....this is what they did with the "electricity", sorta paralyzing brainiac to by them time before he powers up. Brainiac is liquid form thats how he came out of chloe when clark brought her there, thats more than likely how brainiac was when he got back in her. Flowing inside chloes blood stream, in her body. Yes he couuld've crushed or done physical damage to her, i don't doubt that, but he didn't. They used magnetic energy to attract his metalic properties, carefully pull brainiac out of her pores, we don't see what happens from an atomic or subatomic level, but as brainiac is closer to being out of chloe all we see is brainiac starting to clump together as it forms the ball. So when they focused to use there abilities, they used properties such as extreme heat from electricity, and extreme preasure from magnetic waves that it changed the molecular structure of liquid brainiac into metal form after the remains were out of chloe, that why you see metal. Unless you understand the power of electricity and magnetism and what both those properties can do then i cant explain this anymore to you.
unfocused
01-17-2009, 10:12 PM
I understand what you're saying. What it boils down to is Rokk being powerful enough to manipulate BrainIAC into small enough particles so that he can be removed safely. The answer is yes. You're just helping us understand how that process works.
optinox
01-17-2009, 10:39 PM
If you think about it, extreme heat is one property they use for manipulating atomic particles, and magnetic polarities possess extreme force/preassure. So its like taking a coal and using properties to change it into diamonds, if he was in liquid form then it makes sense for him to come through pores or out of chloes mouth (being moisture or liquid first, but as brainiac comes out of chloes mouth we just see it clumping together. Electricity temporarily blocking brainiac, while magnetic energy pulls brainiac, the the combination of both to bring it all together change the molecular structure into a solid round object.
jimmyolsenblues
01-18-2009, 11:10 AM
i remember that x-men 2 movie where the guard had too much iron in his blood and magneto took out...it didn't end well...i assumed the same thing in chloe's case....
but they are from 31st century...maybe cosmic boy is better than metallo?
unfocused
01-18-2009, 06:22 PM
Maybe Magneto was intentionally trying to kill the guard?
Lol I honestly don't see the problem in believing Cosmic Boy is powerful enough to remove manipulated metal from a persons body without harming them...
Liquid-Prince
01-18-2009, 06:28 PM
Well her body probably changed into a Kryptonian one. Also explain how she can run faster then the speed of sound...
sarcami
01-18-2009, 06:38 PM
I think the metal is a liquid like the robot in T2. This means that it could be removeg like .... what in the world am I saying? Believe it. That;s what the show says can happen well it can.
optinox
01-18-2009, 10:54 PM
Chloe was definately somewhat invulnerable, she had superspeed, strength, she seemed to have the same abilities James Marsters did (except flight). For one brainiac had total control over chloe this time, not like before. And yes Magneto intentionally hurt the guard. If cosmic boy has the power of magentism, or lightning lad has electricity, the properties of there powers and what they can do doesn't change. They both already possesses the power/ability it was just a matter of concentrating on using them much more precisely extracing brainiac carefully.
The particles of brainiac come out of chloes mouth, then start clumping together to form the ball. Its possible that by the time the last amount was being sucked out to form teh ball that she still had invulnerability to prevent any internal damage.
ginnyfan
01-18-2009, 11:23 PM
^Hmm that's an interesting theory. Chloe was shaking a lot, perhaps because Brainiac was fighting being extracted from Chloe's body. So if he was hoping to keep Chloe's body and resume sucking up knowledge he would have an interest in preserving the body while resisting extraction. LOL! Great theory.
Hopefulsuicide
01-19-2009, 03:40 AM
They didn't forcefully suck brainiac out, they were careful, did you not here the legion say they've never concentrated on using there abilities that precisely before? Anyways its like sweat, perspiration from your breath, if brainiac is like liquid the smallest particle would be extracted with combination of electricity/magnetism. I have a background in electrical engineering, so i already understand how this could be applied and would work, and to answer how this whole process would happen, well magentism and electricity have other properties to them. Brainiac is not metal, he's not quite like the T-1000 from Terminator 2, his molecular structure is more of a liquid than anything, but can manifest into sold form as well, and duplicate, copy himself, infect, just like an actual computer could do. I can't explain it to you unless you know the basics in electrical and magentic properties. try getting shocked by a tazer and see how much control you have over you body....this is what they did with the "electricity", sorta paralyzing brainiac to by them time before he powers up. Brainiac is liquid form thats how he came out of chloe when clark brought her there, thats more than likely how brainiac was when he got back in her. Flowing inside chloes blood stream, in her body. Yes he couuld've crushed or done physical damage to her, i don't doubt that, but he didn't. They used magnetic energy to attract his metalic properties, carefully pull brainiac out of her pores, we don't see what happens from an atomic or subatomic level, but as brainiac is closer to being out of chloe all we see is brainiac starting to clump together as it forms the ball. So when they focused to use there abilities, they used properties such as extreme heat from electricity, and extreme preasure from magnetic waves that it changed the molecular structure of liquid brainiac into metal form after the remains were out of chloe, that why you see metal. Unless you understand the power of electricity and magnetism and what both those properties can do then i cant explain this anymore to you.
thankyou for your explanation, but i don't think it's a lack of understanding of the mechanics of it, but rather i don't understand the biology of it
when i asked where you were getting the information from, i was referring to the idea that it was in her bloodstream. yes it is a perfectly good theory for Chloe's infection but i just wondered if anyone in the show had ever said it
i may just not have a lot of knowledge about biology, i just would like it if someone could explain how the nano technology passed through the walls of chloe's veins/arteries, then through the rest of her body, and out of her mouth in what almost appeared to be an exhale of breath
to unfocused, i have to say i think your being a little hostile towards my question asking. it's not that i am saying 'no, your wrong' i have absolutely no expertise in anything that would help me understand these things and i would love to understand how this procedure is absolutely possible and could have been done very healthily as my average joe brain cannot fathom it
HalJordan4184
01-19-2009, 06:12 AM
Well, for starters, it was clearly explained that Brainiac was composed of nanites. He's not liquid, he is a metal, just a bunch of really, really, really, really tiny metal robots, with each individual nanite, possessing the memory of the whole. It's how he can easily infect and rewrite computer equipment, as he actually is sending pieces of himself to literally rewrite the hardware, as well as the software. I'd say it's not even a stretch then to say that Kryptonian's were advanced enough, that Brainiac's nanites, were smaller than the average human cell.
This also lends to the liquid looking appearance when he "loses" his solid form. He's not an actual liquid, but trillions of nanits moving in unison, but behaving very much like a liquid, as they have no definitive form as a group.
Now, as for the biology, i think there is a mistake assumption that the body is actually solid. It is, but it isn't. Molecules and particles pass all the time from cell to cell, and system to system in your body. Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide regularly pass in and out of your blood stream, without ripping it to shreds. It's how your body is designed to work. Things are supposed to be able to pass in and out of cells.
So, as far as Smallville is concerned, if Rokk was really concentrating, and making an effort, he could have guided the individual nanites, which may be smaller than the cells making up Chloe, and may be as small as a molecule, out without harming her. Think of it as a forced diffusion.
In the case of Magneto in X2, he simply didn't care. He wasn't trying to nice. He just ripped hunks of iron out of the poor guy.
So it can work both ways. It could be done without killing Chloe, and shredding her from the inside out. It could also have killed her if done improperly.
BadaBingBadaBoomsday
01-19-2009, 06:33 AM
If Brainiac can take liquid form how can he not be extracted? He even looked as if he was coming out of Chloe's mouth in a gaseous form which would be even easier to explain.
Well, for starters, it was clearly explained that Brainiac was composed of nanites. He's not liquid, he is a metal, just a bunch of really, really, really, really tiny metal robots, with each individual nanite, possessing the memory of the whole.
I'm pretty sure he is a liquid, when he formed a wibbly wobbly mass above her mouth. Metals can be liquids you know, in fact you can have a liquid of nearly anything even solids!
devilneedsaride
01-19-2009, 02:22 PM
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Rokk is able to manipulate metallic particles with enough dexterity that he could remove them from Chloe's body without injuring her. When I saw them coming out of her mouth I sort of sneered at the screen and went "Yeah, sure." but like the poll says, whatever, it's Smallville. It's hardly the worst plot hole we've seen.
optinox
01-20-2009, 06:20 PM
ya it may have looked like gas, but i think it was tiny particles (nanites) coming together to form the ball. Sortal like metal shavings from a file, i have a hi def TV and i could tell it wasn't gas, it looked like tiny particles coming together. And HalJor is right, brainiac appears like liquid but really he's kryptononian supercomputer made of probably trillions, and trillions, of nanonites making him appear like the T2 or liquid. I didn't mean brainiac was liquid like the meteor infected girl i think in the episode "hydro", where she could turn into water, i meant he can change shape, from solid to liquid form. Liquid when he was oozing out of chloes ear, or solid when he tried infecting chloe by touching her head with his tentacles. Even if they did get rid of brainiac he probably infected himself in DD, or is still infected in the fortress. It seems you have to get all of him to kill him, so if he had a chance to infect anyone incase his planned failed, then he would be able to be brought back.
unfocused
01-20-2009, 06:52 PM
At least one thing is undeniable and very accurate... that is BrainIAC is very effin' cool.
Come on... trillions of nanites moving in unison as if it were a liquid... wow...
The Red Aaron
01-20-2009, 08:55 PM
maybe Chloe has her healing power again and she healed herself.
Hopefulsuicide
01-21-2009, 05:07 AM
Well, for starters, it was clearly explained that Brainiac was composed of nanites. He's not liquid, he is a metal, just a bunch of really, really, really, really tiny metal robots, with each individual nanite, possessing the memory of the whole. It's how he can easily infect and rewrite computer equipment, as he actually is sending pieces of himself to literally rewrite the hardware, as well as the software. I'd say it's not even a stretch then to say that Kryptonian's were advanced enough, that Brainiac's nanites, were smaller than the average human cell.
This also lends to the liquid looking appearance when he "loses" his solid form. He's not an actual liquid, but trillions of nanits moving in unison, but behaving very much like a liquid, as they have no definitive form as a group.
Now, as for the biology, i think there is a mistake assumption that the body is actually solid. It is, but it isn't. Molecules and particles pass all the time from cell to cell, and system to system in your body. Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide regularly pass in and out of your blood stream, without ripping it to shreds. It's how your body is designed to work. Things are supposed to be able to pass in and out of cells.
So, as far as Smallville is concerned, if Rokk was really concentrating, and making an effort, he could have guided the individual nanites, which may be smaller than the cells making up Chloe, and may be as small as a molecule, out without harming her. Think of it as a forced diffusion.
In the case of Magneto in X2, he simply didn't care. He wasn't trying to nice. He just ripped hunks of iron out of the poor guy.
So it can work both ways. It could be done without killing Chloe, and shredding her from the inside out. It could also have killed her if done improperly.
thankyou, haljordan, i can always rely on you to explain things in a way i can understand :lol:
when reading your explanation i feel a de ja vu of high school biology lessons... and i guess i can except the nanites are as small as molecules
all i can say is that if rokk can pull off something as complicated as directing the billions of nanites in chloe's body safely out through her mouth, first time... then he is simply incredibly talented
go rokk!
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At least one thing is undeniable and very accurate... that is BrainIAC is very effin' cool.
Come on... trillions of nanites moving in unison as if it were a liquid... wow...
well yeah but he was helpless to rokk... rokk is obviously wayyyyy cooler :p
Bringitback
01-21-2009, 05:58 AM
it's a classic comicbook move. not just smallville.
Bizarrolover
01-21-2009, 02:20 PM
The episode lasted only 42 minutes, it's not that they could waste another minute trying to come up with a long and probably unbelievable explanation that would make more sense than magnetically extracting Brainiac from Chloe's body. It worked, that's enough for me. Anyway, the security guy in X2 died for one simple reason: unimportant extras usually die on movies, especially when they play stupid security guards that happen to be guarding the villan of the story. ;)
disciples of zod
01-21-2009, 02:25 PM
Anyone else notice that metallic pieces being pulled from chloe's body with magnets would absolutely tear through her skin and organs in the process of coming out?
What special ability do they have to magically take out metallic parts with SEEMLESS extraction from the body?
I didn't hear that explained.
because it wasn't explained. that's another reason why i found this episode so below what the CW and the ratings promised it to be.
~K
Flying Skyward
01-21-2009, 02:26 PM
I guess, but couldn't Rokk manuver where they came out from.. I thought that was part of his thing?!?!
disciples of zod
01-21-2009, 02:30 PM
^eh, you're probably right. i didn't think about that.
~K
Jedimaster_TTBaby
01-21-2009, 07:22 PM
I try not to argue with smallville anymore, lol.
curiosity
01-22-2009, 12:50 AM
They pulled the pieces out her mouth. Besides, they didn't tear anything going into her skin. It's brainiac pieces, they're different, and who cares.
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