View Full Version : Chloe Sullivan: Live or Die, you choose
Polomontana
01-15-2009, 08:59 PM
Do you think this foreshadowed Chloe's death or was it just a way to add her to the Annals of History?
Clana_4ever2005
01-15-2009, 08:59 PM
Annals of history!
Iluvgreen
01-15-2009, 08:59 PM
She is not going to die.
harryandginnyfanatic
01-15-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh course she'll die. Of old age.
Clark being kryptonian has a longer life span than other people, so eventually Chloe would die.
thehenry89
01-15-2009, 09:00 PM
I don't think she'll die. It's more likely she won't have anything to do with clark's future.
6-Super-Man -5
01-15-2009, 09:01 PM
She will die, but not in the series.
myankskent
01-15-2009, 09:04 PM
Something is going to happen to her, let's leave it at that.
hanemg
01-15-2009, 09:23 PM
Ummm...have I mentioned episode 20 yet?
Iluvgreen
01-15-2009, 09:25 PM
kk so maybe when she grows old... with her husband Jimmy.
davidbrenton
01-15-2009, 09:29 PM
I'd say die, but if there is a spin-off, she's the most likely transplant. But, her dying would make for a more dramatic story.
HeartChakraBabe
01-15-2009, 09:36 PM
Chloe will not die. Even if the writers make the huge mistake of killing her, she will never die in my heart or imagination.
Firebunny
01-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Clark said it himself, "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
Gan-EL: the last son
01-15-2009, 09:49 PM
I choose die, but I doubt it will happen.
davidbrenton
01-15-2009, 09:50 PM
Chloe should kill herself because she can't stand what a bumbling fumbling pansy the worlds biggest hero has become. That would awesome.
Krypto~Luan
01-15-2009, 09:53 PM
live, i thought they were really gonna off her for a second, my heart sank!
Chlarkislove
01-15-2009, 09:54 PM
I think one of the points of this episode is to show that the time line for the future- DC Timeline is different than the time line for the present-SV Timeline. In DC Timeline there is no Chloe in SV Timeline there is a Chloe, so basically I think Chloe will live because this is an alternate timeline.
Loisdragon
01-15-2009, 09:55 PM
i love her so live
dreamsofnever
01-15-2009, 09:55 PM
I think they want us to think that Chloe's going to die, but I think Chloe dying would be too obvious now.
I like the idea of her going into some sort of witness protection or something like that.
I read a fic once where Chloe became Vicky Vale. Since I never liked Vicky Vale, the idea of Chloe becoming her makes her waay cooler.
*yes, I know Chloe will NOT become Vicky Vale, but you gotta admit it would kinda fit.
harryandginnyfanatic
01-15-2009, 09:56 PM
Clark said it himself, "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
He also said "no one is gonna mess with Lois and Clark"
Alicia Chipy
01-15-2009, 09:56 PM
She lives and starts writing a gossip column for the Planet with the pen name......Cat Grant.
sarcasm
HeartChakraBabe
01-15-2009, 09:57 PM
Clark said it himself, "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
You said it! I always love your posts, Firebunny! :D
BOUROUX
01-15-2009, 10:05 PM
I think one of the points of this episode is to show that the time line for the future- DC Timeline is different than the time line for the present-SV Timeline. In DC Timeline there is no Chloe in SV Timeline there is a Chloe, so basically I think Chloe will live because this is an alternate timeline.
I agree with you.
Chloe will not die.
pizzahead2490
01-15-2009, 10:39 PM
it is kind of interesting the legion mentioning that chole is not in the history book. even they say she may die. i like chole but this got me thinking.
smallvillefreak24
01-15-2009, 10:55 PM
NO NO CHLOE CAN'T DIE
take clark instead!!
teehee
AndiGirl
01-15-2009, 11:00 PM
Honestly....I was feeling great about this episode because it kept screaming "chloe wont die!!!" So I was doing a little happy dance. :lol:
Especially when Clark said "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
But then.....the STUPID last scene between the two of them. It really wasnt stupid....but there was one part that completely flipped my view. Chloe is reassuring Clark that if it ever comes to that....he needs to do whats best for the greater good.
Then Clark says something along the lines of "As long as I'm alive thats not going to happen"
And I had a sudden screeching hault in my brain! All I could think was well great...so when Clark and Dooms face off....and Clark IS about to die....and cant do anything to save the day. Chloe will sacrifice her life for him.
I was feeling so good until that line. I mean...there has to be a reason nobody has ever heard of Chloe Sullivan in the future.
I sadly think she will die by series end....if not the end of this season. :(
vikingjedi
01-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Something is going to happen to her, let's leave it at that.
Or something is going to happen to Lois and Chloe takes her name.
Krypto~Luan
01-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Ill take live for 600 trabeck.
Liquid-Prince
01-15-2009, 11:03 PM
She's too cute to die.
dreamsofnever
01-15-2009, 11:08 PM
She lives and starts writing a gossip column for the Planet with the pen name......Cat Grant.
sarcasm
:rotfl: I thought of that too! That would be hilarious and so... not Chloe.
Honestly....I was feeling great about this episode because it kept screaming "chloe wont die!!!" So I was doing a little happy dance. :lol:
Especially when Clark said "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
But then.....the STUPID last scene between the two of them. It really wasnt stupid....but there was one part that completely flipped my view. Chloe is reassuring Clark that if it ever comes to that....he needs to do whats best for the greater good.
Then Clark says something along the lines of "As long as I'm alive thats not going to happen"
And I had a sudden screeching hault in my brain! All I could think was well great...so when Clark and Dooms face off....and Clark IS about to die....and cant do anything to save the day. Chloe will sacrifice her life for him.
I was feeling so good until that line. I mean...there has to be a reason nobody has ever heard of Chloe Sullivan in the future.
I sadly think she will die by series end....if not the end of this season. :(
Aww, Andi... I hope you're wrong! Because, if she did die to save Clark, wouldn't people remember her as the woman who gave her life for him?
I think something else will happen and she'll get a different alias, and I went into this episode thinking there was a high likelihood of Chloe sacrificing herself for Clark.
It's too bad that there was already a Lucy Lane introduced, because it would be awesome to have Chloe be renamed as Lucy Lane. Lucy is blonde in some comic books and she's sometimes romantically linked with Jimmy, and Chloe and Lois are like sisters...
Yeah, a girl can dream.
I think one of the points of this episode is to show that the time line for the future- DC Timeline is different than the time line for the present-SV Timeline. In DC Timeline there is no Chloe in SV Timeline there is a Chloe, so basically I think Chloe will live because this is an alternate timeline.
That's what I think- Smallville is an AU version of the DC comics- which would account for all of the discrepancies in Smallville and I'm not just talking about the existence of Chloe which is what all the fans of the mythos gripe about. I mean hello he has been working at the Daily Planet for months so where is Superman?
harryandginnyfanatic
01-15-2009, 11:32 PM
take clark instead!!
teehee
You never know.
AndiGirl
01-15-2009, 11:32 PM
:rotfl: I thought of that too! That would be hilarious and so... not Chloe.
Aww, Andi... I hope you're wrong! Because, if she did die to save Clark, wouldn't people remember her as the woman who gave her life for him?
I think something else will happen and she'll get a different alias, and I went into this episode thinking there was a high likelihood of Chloe sacrificing herself for Clark.
It's too bad that there was already a Lucy Lane introduced, because it would be awesome to have Chloe be renamed as Lucy Lane. Lucy is blonde in some comic books and she's sometimes romantically linked with Jimmy, and Chloe and Lois are like sisters...
Yeah, a girl can dream.
Thats actually a very good point!! Chloe would be remembered for giving her life! :)
I'm hoping I'm wrong too...but it's just a weird gut feeling I have now.
I hope she just gets a new alias or something...but then the other part of me thinks its just ridiculous that they have to "do something with her" because she isnt an origional character in the comic books. :\
Black Panda
01-15-2009, 11:36 PM
:rotfl: I thought of that too! That would be hilarious and so... not Chloe.
No but Cat Grant does remind me of someone...
:
I think something else will happen and she'll get a different alias, and I went into this episode thinking there was a high likelihood of Chloe sacrificing herself for Clark.
I can't blame you, when doesn't she sacrifice herself for Clark? Not to mention dying regularly.
I agree, an alias was strongly suggested.
Thats actually a very good point!! Chloe would be remembered for giving her life! :)
I'm hoping I'm wrong too...but it's just a weird gut feeling I have now.
I hope she just gets a new alias or something...but then the other part of me thinks its just ridiculous that they have to "do something with her" because she isnt an origional character in the comic books. :\
That argument has absolutely no weight with me because much of Smallville doesn't follow that mythos line.
kkjdt
01-15-2009, 11:41 PM
Annals of history!
dreamsofnever
01-15-2009, 11:47 PM
Thats actually a very good point!! Chloe would be remembered for giving her life! :)
I'm hoping I'm wrong too...but it's just a weird gut feeling I have now.
I hope she just gets a new alias or something...but then the other part of me thinks its just ridiculous that they have to "do something with her" because she isnt an origional character in the comic books. :\
Yeah, I agree. I would be perfectly happy to see them have Chloe continue being Chloe. They've already thrown a lot of the mythos out the window, and Smallville has got to be AU of the DC universe (which already has lots of inconsistencies and plot variations because hello, it's been around for 70 years!)
I'm all for Chloe-as-Vicky-Vale though. It fits-a blonde reporter, and she gets to hook up with Batman... lol.
But you know they wouldn't let them touch a Batman character. Oh well.
No but Cat Grant does remind me of someone...
I can't blame you, when doesn't she sacrifice herself for Clark? Not to mention dying regularly.
I agree, an alias was strongly suggested.
Who does Cat Grant remind you of? *curious*
And yes, she does sacrifice herself for Clark regularly and you're right-how many times has she died now? Smallville is quite fond of the soap opera killing off characters, only to have them not be really dead or come back to life. It amuses me!
ginnyfan
01-16-2009, 12:44 AM
LOL! Chloe's death has been foreshadowed countless times and then she actually died!
I vote live. Long live Chloe Sullivan. :D
Sunny8
01-16-2009, 12:57 AM
Live, of course. I still don't know why people thinks she has to die. The main people seen in Clark's life when he becomes Superman are Lois, Jimmy and his enemies. That does not mean that other people don't play a part in his life. Maybe they are just not mentioned. Chloe could be one of those people.
BadaBingBadaBoomsday
01-16-2009, 03:54 AM
As much as I would love to see her live, I think dying would do her more justice.
If Chloe lives I would have to come to terms with Clark choosing Lois over her, but if Chloe died I would know that Clark had no other option.
FlashInSV
01-16-2009, 04:28 AM
Killing Chloe would be a perfect way out for the writers, since her character was never a part of the DC universe. Don't get me wrong, it would be devastating for me to see her go, for I have loved her all those years. But in this episode, it was obvious more than ever that TPTB are considering killing her. They even hinted that Chloe's death might be the 'price' we have to pay to see Clark fly.
Although I want to see Chloe live, I think we might in fact see her die.
Mickey_Bickey
01-16-2009, 05:44 AM
LOL! Chloe's death has been foreshadowed countless times and then she actually died!
I vote live. Long live Chloe Sullivan. :D
I'll second that! I've been a Chloe fan since Pilot. I don't want to see her die!:)
SupermanRox
01-16-2009, 06:03 AM
I think she will die of old age.
AChloeChick
01-16-2009, 06:08 AM
Killing Chloe would be a perfect way out for the writers, since her character was never a part of the DC universe. Don't get me wrong, it would be devastating for me to see her go, for I have loved her all those years. But in this episode, it was obvious more than ever that TPTB are considering killing her. They even hinted that Chloe's death might be the 'price' we have to pay to see Clark fly.
Although I want to see Chloe live, I think we might in fact see her die.
I don't want to see Chloe or anyone else HAVE to die just so we can see Clark fly!
I also don't want her to die saving Clark (no matter how heroic it may seem) or at the hands of Doomsday because she's caught in the middle of that.
I want to see her live! She's grown on me too much to see her simply disappear and never be seen or heard from again.
shase
01-16-2009, 06:18 AM
She is going to live. They just don't know the name Chloe. And if i heard correctly one of the legion guys says that she changes her name when clark comes public with his super powers...or he is just guessing xD
Dustmite
01-16-2009, 06:56 AM
I think Clark said it best: Chloe Sullivan does not die.
LoveHurts38
01-16-2009, 08:04 AM
But, Chloe did say if it comes to killing her to do it close to the end of the episode.
But, Chloe did say if it comes to killing her to do it close to the end of the episode.
That doesn't mean that Clark listened and would actually do what she said.
RedKRules
01-16-2009, 10:22 AM
Long Live Chloe Sullivan:D
----- Added 58 Seconds later -----
I think Clark said it best: Chloe Sullivan does not die.
hehehe sooo true :D
ClumsyGRL
01-16-2009, 10:48 AM
Clark said it himself, "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
he also said something like..:"your wedding is gonna be perfect, i'll make sure of it!!!" look how that turned out... anyway i don't think chloe will die, i think the LOSH didn't know who she was 'cause clark will protect her somehow along the story...
marcella
01-16-2009, 10:50 AM
Everyone dies someday
Timester
01-16-2009, 11:01 AM
I don't know, the vibe that I got from the episode was Chloe will sacrifice herself for the good of humanity. AND that does fit on the "bittersweet" season ending that PS3 talked about.
They are hinting something about Chloe, of that, I'm sure.
AndiGirl
01-16-2009, 11:10 AM
I don't know, the vibe that I got from the episode was Chloe will sacrifice herself for the good of humanity. AND that does fit on the "bittersweet" season ending that PS3 talked about.
They are hinting something about Chloe, of that, I'm sure.
Thats the vibe I got as well.
Especially in the last scene between Clark and Chloe.
She told him if anything was to ever happen...she would want him to do whats best for the greater good. And let her die.
Then he said "as long as I'm around that wont happen"
So I got the feeling that its going to be a flipped situation. Clarks life will be on the line (probabley after the doomsday show down) so Chloe will want to do whats best for the world and sacrifice her own life to save Clark. If he's dying...and injured he wont be able to protest...or atleast not enough to stop her.
Basically this episode let us know how Chloe feels about the matter....and how Clark would do anything to keep her around. But sadly...I'm still not feeling great about Chloe's fate. :(
But then someone made a good point in another thread. If Chloe died....wouldnt people have still heard about her in the future? :\
But, Chloe did say if it comes to killing her to do it close to the end of the episode.
And Chloe also begged him not to take her memories... Clark Kent has trouble listening to his friends wishes.
Jaderoyale
01-16-2009, 01:18 PM
I'm a fan of her character so i don't want her to die.
Though the hint of "Chloe's death influencing Clark to fly" really irked me. Clark should fly of his own bounds not of anyone elses (and before anyone says anything, that includes Lois to me)
Minamostaza
01-16-2009, 01:32 PM
Everybody will die....someday of course.....as Lana said in this epi:
"Our destiny it's not written in some book in the future, we write it ourselfs, everyday"
kal-el_Girl
01-16-2009, 01:32 PM
Oh course she'll die. Of old age.
Clark being kryptonian has a longer life span than other people, so eventually Chloe would die.
yes so will Lois and mercifully Lana
[...]and mercifully Lana
:) too funny!
kal-el_Girl
01-16-2009, 01:33 PM
Everybody will die....someday of course.....as Lana said in this epi:
"Our destiny it's not written in some book in the future, we write it ourselfs, everyday"
I think lana has seen too many times Back to the future
----- Added 30 Seconds later -----
:) too funny!
thank you :p
Primal Slayer
01-16-2009, 01:35 PM
While I like Chloe, I am going to ahve to say die. And just have her death be that extra push to help him to jumpstart his Superman career. So far Clark has been pretty lucky with his friends suriviving everything they have gone through with him. Its a matter of time before there is a casualty.
She'll die because no one is clever enough to put her in the comics in a good way (not talking about Chlois).
Vindellavon
01-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Love Live Tiny Non Mythos Blonde!
ginnyfan
01-16-2009, 02:51 PM
I think Clark said it best: Chloe Sullivan does not die.
I love that moment. <3
Clark: Chloe Sullivan does not die. Hear me?
Garth is afraid. Then he totally geeks out. He's going to look at those bruises on his arms with awe when he gets home. If aliens of his species bruise that is. :D
She'll die because no one is clever enough to put her in the comics in a good way (not talking about Chlois).
Well until little Chloe fans grow up to be comic book writers. Then we'll get winks and nods at the very least.
I love that moment. <3
Clark: Chloe Sullivan does not die. Hear me?
Garth is afraid. Then he totally geeks out. He's going to look at those bruises on his arms with awe when he gets home. If aliens of his species bruise that is. :D
Well until little Chloe fans grow up to be comic book writers. Then we'll get winks and nods at the very least.
If I could only grow up... :) Then I'd steal Chloe off to Gotham to meet a certain Dark Knight who could bring out her actual feelings instead of letting her bury all that anger in such a tiny figure!
Primal Slayer
01-16-2009, 03:33 PM
She was going to be introduced into Superman last year but the writer who was going to do it had to go do another title. So I wouldnt be surprised if she popped up finally in the next few years.
She was going to be introduced into Superman last year but the writer who was going to do it had to go do another title. So I wouldnt be surprised if she popped up finally in the next few years.
Yeah I know... but the way they were going to do even that was uncreative anyway.
Vindellavon
01-16-2009, 04:04 PM
I love that moment. <3
Clark: Chloe Sullivan does not die. Hear me?
The best moment in the episode. :D
SVrnFAN
01-16-2009, 04:12 PM
Honestly....I was feeling great about this episode because it kept screaming "chloe wont die!!!" So I was doing a little happy dance. :lol:
Especially when Clark said "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
But then.....the STUPID last scene between the two of them. It really wasnt stupid....but there was one part that completely flipped my view. Chloe is reassuring Clark that if it ever comes to that....he needs to do whats best for the greater good.
Then Clark says something along the lines of "As long as I'm alive thats not going to happen"
And I had a sudden screeching hault in my brain! All I could think was well great...so when Clark and Dooms face off....and Clark IS about to die....and cant do anything to save the day. Chloe will sacrifice her life for him.
I was feeling so good until that line. I mean...there has to be a reason nobody has ever heard of Chloe Sullivan in the future.
I sadly think she will die by series end....if not the end of this season. :(
Could the reason be that she is not known in the future is because in the Legion future Chloe died when Brainiac was removed from her. So, know that they helped Clark save her - people will know her in the future.
Or as suggested - she has a pseudonym and she is remembered under the pseudonym ;)
ginnyfan
01-16-2009, 04:13 PM
If I could only grow up... :) Then I'd steal Chloe off to Gotham to meet a certain Dark Knight who could bring out her actual feelings instead of letting her bury all that anger in such a tiny figure!
I have enjoyed this scenario three times in fanfic form. :D In one of them (my fave so far) dating the Prince of Gotham was deadly. :( But in the other two I think she'll live. :)
She was going to be introduced into Superman last year but the writer who was going to do it had to go do another title. So I wouldn't be surprised if she popped up finally in the next few years.
I'd love that. I was so excited for her to arrive in the comics. Someone had a scan where Perry mentions a reporter named Chloe off on an assignment. I don't know what it was from.
I have enjoyed this scenario three times in fanfic form. :D In one of them (my fave so far) dating the Prince of Gotham was deadly. :( But in the other two I think she'll live. :) On a side note: Ashbarker's Chruce stuff is Lengendary... in my world anyway.
Back on topic: I'm definitely liking the "send her to the future" idea. I mean, can Chloe ever really pick up the pieces in her life? Because right now she maybe walking around without a care in the world but that's only going to last so long.
Kal-ed
01-16-2009, 04:17 PM
Honestly....I was feeling great about this episode because it kept screaming "chloe wont die!!!" So I was doing a little happy dance. :lol:
Especially when Clark said "Chloe Sullivan does not die."
But then.....the STUPID last scene between the two of them. It really wasnt stupid....but there was one part that completely flipped my view. Chloe is reassuring Clark that if it ever comes to that....he needs to do whats best for the greater good.
Then Clark says something along the lines of "As long as I'm alive thats not going to happen"
And I had a sudden screeching hault in my brain! All I could think was well great...so when Clark and Dooms face off....and Clark IS about to die....and cant do anything to save the day. Chloe will sacrifice her life for him.
I was feeling so good until that line. I mean...there has to be a reason nobody has ever heard of Chloe Sullivan in the future.
I sadly think she will die by series end....if not the end of this season. :(
I think no one remembering her is a complete plothole and Id like to add that if Chloe Sullivan gave her life to save Clark, Clark would make sure the world knew about her sacrifice.
----- Added 1 Minutes later -----
I'd love that. I was so excited for her to arrive in the comics. Someone had a scan where Perry mentions a reporter named Chloe off on an assignment. I don't know what it was from.
I dont remember the issue but it was from the LOSH comic book series.
ginnyfan
01-16-2009, 04:35 PM
I dont remember the issue but it was from the LOSH comic book series.
LOL! Really? That's too weird.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-16-2009, 04:48 PM
She's gonna die, you don't get those types of scenes unless something is gonna happen.
If the writers were smart they'd kill her off. Then again they'd probably make her some kind of martyr in death, so it's a rock and a hard place :rolleyes:
Bizarrolover
01-16-2009, 05:06 PM
While I think Clark was right in not killing her (he would never live with his conscience), letting her live will bring far worse consequences. They didn't throw all those anvils for nothing, the whole 'doing what is better for the world and not me', 'be careful on the days to come', and 'placing her trust on the wrong person' are just warnings of what is about to come. Chloe knowing Clark's secret will finally be dangerous for Clark, not just Chloe. But, it that were the case, I think the legion should remember about the friend that betrayed Clark and helped Doomsday to kill him or the martyr that sacrificied her life for Superman. I'm confused.
AndyBear1980
01-16-2009, 05:11 PM
To answer the original question, I think this was a way to add her to the history.
Clarkgirl8
01-16-2009, 05:33 PM
^^I second that... I think that's why they added all the 'To the future' stuff...
Chloe Sullivan does not die.
Long Live Chloe Sullivan!!!
alejandrita439
01-16-2009, 06:40 PM
she is human, she will die sooner or later....
but i dont want that she die in the series :(.... but who knows...
Primal Slayer
01-16-2009, 06:45 PM
I think no one remembering her is a complete plothole and Id like to add that if Chloe Sullivan gave her life to save Clark, Clark would make sure the world knew about her sacrifice.
.
Clark doesnt have control over the people who made the books/holograms/videos/museums. And he isnt there to fill in that missing piece of information on his life.
Black Panda
01-16-2009, 07:13 PM
Well until little Chloe fans grow up to be comic book writers. Then we'll get winks and nods at the very least.
We pretty much already do on a regular basis.
melissan02
01-16-2009, 07:16 PM
Umm, it's not Chloe Sullivan now, it's Chloe Olson.;) (spelling?)
Storm45
01-16-2009, 07:18 PM
She's keeping her maiden's name. As pointed in Committed.
Black Panda
01-16-2009, 11:43 PM
she is human, she will die sooner or later....
Maybe. There is more evidence of her immortality than that of her cousin though, what with the heart thing and the constant resurrections. Lois has only come back from the dead because of Chloe I believe, which could have some symbolic meaning right there.
Deana
01-16-2009, 11:45 PM
Something will happen to her. Superman starts his journey alone and young Clark Kent is too dependent on her. Something happens. I sure won't pick die if they try to make that the reason he becomes Superman.
alejandrita439
01-16-2009, 11:45 PM
She's keeping her maiden's name. As pointed in Committed.
i dont remember that :o
Sv.LoisLane
01-17-2009, 06:13 AM
Maybe. There is more evidence of her immortality than that of her cousin though, what with the heart thing and the constant resurrections. Lois has only come back from the dead because of Chloe I believe, which could have some symbolic meaning right there.
"Even if she is... gone... a thousand years and another world past... Lois is still the only one." - Superman said that to an immortal woman ;)
Lois will die because she's human, but not in Smallville. As long as she's alive in the comics it can't happen.
Chloe on the other hand...
And to answer this thread... I choose "die".
Marissa
01-17-2009, 07:10 AM
I think it would be really stupid if they are going to kill her off.. I think she is a big part of Smallville and I really like her character.
So I hope she lives. But, I think something will happen to her.
JFalcon
01-17-2009, 07:31 AM
Since the Legion did not know Chloe, she will live. Because if she had died, there would be no reason for Clark not to talk about her. Her identity is a secret. They probably know her by a different name.
RedKRules
01-17-2009, 07:44 AM
^^I second that... I think that's why they added all the 'To the future' stuff...
Chloe Sullivan does not die.
Long Live Chloe Sullivan!!!
I will third it :D ... Chloe Sullivan is here to stay :D
wolverine316
01-17-2009, 08:05 AM
So long Chloe. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Vindellavon
01-17-2009, 08:27 AM
She's gonna die, you don't get those types of scenes unless something is gonna happen.
If the writers were smart they'd kill her off. Then again they'd probably make her some kind of martyr in death, so it's a rock and a hard place :rolleyes:
And she has died. And her death has been foreshadowed countless times throughout every single season, and once it even came true. But she keeps coming back, and I highly doubt she's going anywhere. Sure, she'll die again, be it Dooms or suicide, she'll die and she'll come back... Again. ;)
Long Live the Blonde!!!
Jaderoyale
01-17-2009, 08:29 AM
I don't like thinking of character deaths tbh, i like Chloe :\
Vindellavon
01-17-2009, 08:34 AM
I don't like thinking of character deaths tbh, i like Chloe :\
A lot of people love/like Chloe and don't want her to die, like me! All we can is hope for the best, and hope maybe DC can one way or another plunge her into the comics! :D
Bizarrolover
01-17-2009, 09:28 AM
I think she dies. It was hinted several times in this episode. Clark says that nothing is going to happen while he is around. We know that Doomsday kills him, and he remains dead for some time, so he won't be around for a while to protect Chloe. I think that's why Rokk said that maybe chloe's death is what finally inspires Clark pursue his destiny and become Superman. But, if that were the case, shouldn't Chloe be remembered for that?
morena
01-17-2009, 09:30 AM
Chloe Sullivan does not die.
Long Live Chlois
chlo-el
01-17-2009, 11:06 AM
Even if Chloe did die shouldn't she be remebered for dying for Clark. I think now Clark knows she won't be rmembered that he'll make sure she'll be remebered no matter what happens.
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I think she dies. It was hinted several times in this episode. Clark says that nothing is going to happen while he is around. We know that Doomsday kills him, and he remains for some time, so he won't be around for a while to protect Chloe. I think that's why Rokk said that maybe chloe's is what finally inspires Clark pursue his destiny and become Superman. But, if that were the case, shouldn't Chloe be remembered for that?
IT was also hinted that she would change her name. They are both Red Herrings and teases to get Chloiser and antiChloe fans all riled up.
And yes Chloe should be remembered for dying for Clark. It's ridicolous that she wouldn't.
Black Panda
01-17-2009, 11:20 AM
IT was also hinted that she would change her name. They are both Red Herrings and teases to get Chloiser and antiChloe fans all riled up.
Yeah, I really wish the show would spend more time making being a fan fun and less time baiting. It's time to pay off the set up.
The Legion also suggested Chloe was trying to get Clark to embrace his heritage, which she has. So, I'm leaning towards Chiri's suggestion that they'll pay off all three suggestions. She inspires him, she "dies", but she also lives on under a psuedonym.
Bizarrolover
01-17-2009, 12:28 PM
Yeah, I really wish the show would spend more time making being a fan fun and less time baiting. It's time to pay off the set up.
The Legion also suggested Chloe was trying to get Clark to embrace his heritage, which she has. So, I'm leaning towards Chiri's suggestion that they'll pay off all three suggestions. She inspires him, she "dies", but she also lives on under a psuedonym.
Lana dies and her spirit gets into Chloe, a la 'Dawn Stiles'. That will finally end with the Chlois theory, once and for all.;)
SVrnFAN
01-17-2009, 12:30 PM
Yeah, I really wish the show would spend more time making being a fan fun and less time baiting. It's time to pay off the set up.
The Legion also suggested Chloe was trying to get Clark to embrace his heritage, which she has. So, I'm leaning towards Chiri's suggestion that they'll pay off all three suggestions. She inspires him, she "dies", but she also lives on under a psuedonym.
I like the idea that all three suggestions will happen. She will inspire him as she has been doing the last 8 years; we know she would die for him, Odyssey proved that; with all the hints over the years about a psuedonym, I can see this happening.
Chloe Sullivan will not be forgotten because she is an integral part of why Smallville has been a success. Even if she is not added into the comics, fans will not forget her.
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History is about to get a rewrite
chlo-el
01-17-2009, 12:36 PM
^Well said. I completely agree.
Primal Slayer
01-17-2009, 01:07 PM
Ofcourse the fans wont forget her. But the future from like 100yrs from now? Thats a whole nother story.
Live for sure !!
She is indispensable for Clark I think ... and I really like her :)
Vindellavon
01-18-2009, 12:02 PM
I like the idea that all three suggestions will happen. She will inspire him as she has been doing the last 8 years; we know she would die for him, Odyssey proved that; with all the hints over the years about a psuedonym, I can see this happening.
Chloe Sullivan will not be forgotten because she is an integral part of why Smallville has been a success. Even if she is not added into the comics, fans will not forget her.
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History is about to get a rewrite
Amen! :D
RedKRules
01-18-2009, 01:11 PM
I will second this Amen !! :D
hanemg
01-18-2009, 09:12 PM
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History is about to get a rewrite
That was right about the time Rokk and Garth slammed Brainiac through the window, right?
alejandrita439
01-18-2009, 09:17 PM
Live :)
Vindellavon
01-19-2009, 03:21 PM
That was right about the time Rokk and Garth slammed Brainiac through the window, right?
Still counting on episode 20, aye?
Sv.LoisLane
01-19-2009, 03:27 PM
Still counting on episode 20, aye?
And he's not the only one.
But in the end... I don't really care if she's dead or alive. But I guess I'll yawn less if episode 20 happens.
Vindellavon
01-19-2009, 03:30 PM
And he's not the only one.
But in the end... I don't really care if she's dead or alive. But I guess I'll yawn less if episode 20 happens.
Hopefully spoilers will start pouring in during the next few weeks.
Sv.LoisLane
01-19-2009, 03:40 PM
Hopefully spoilers will start pouring in during the next few weeks.
I doubt they'd spoil an eventual death. But who knows.
Vindellavon
01-19-2009, 03:45 PM
I doubt they'd spoil an eventual death. But who knows.
My post referred to ep 20. Ausiello will most like spoil everyone if a death were to occur, and hopefully not mention whom. I'm just bent on proving a lot of people wrong. :)
Sv.LoisLane
01-19-2009, 03:51 PM
My post referred to ep 20. Ausiello will most like spoil everyone if a death were to occur, and hopefully not mention whom. I'm just bent on proving a lot of people wrong. :)
I know you were referring to ep. 20. But that's the episode some, including myself, think Chloe will die. That's why I said the spoilers wouldn't "help" much.
Vindellavon
01-19-2009, 03:56 PM
I know you were referring to ep. 20. But that's the episode some, including myself, think Chloe will die. That's why I said the spoilers wouldn't "help" much.
I see. I guess we'll have to wait it out then. :p
Sv.LoisLane
01-19-2009, 04:01 PM
I see. I guess we'll have to wait it out then. :p
Yeah... it all depends on S9 at this point, I think.
Vindellavon
01-19-2009, 04:09 PM
Yeah... it all depends on S9 at this point, I think.
I think it's positive for S9, not that I really want it. I would, however, love Doomsday back!
Kal26
01-19-2009, 05:09 PM
I think that killing Chloe would be a huge mistake, and would really sour my memory of the show for the rest of my life.
Vindellavon
01-19-2009, 05:11 PM
I think that killing Chloe would be a huge mistake, and would really sour my memory of the show for the rest of my life.
Yup!
If they killed off Chloe I wouldn't watch- and I think a lot of Chloe fans wouldn't either. She does seem to have a substantial fanbase even though many Chloe fans seem to have deserted K-site.
Kal26
01-19-2009, 08:17 PM
I think the last think the powers that be want to do is anger Chloe fans. It's not hard to see they there are a lot, and they are devoted. :)
JFalcon
01-20-2009, 03:59 AM
Chloe is a conglomeration of Lois and Lana. She only has value in Smallville. She isn't in the Superman mythos. She should die.
Hopefulsuicide
01-20-2009, 04:51 AM
Chloe is nothing like Lana or Lois IMO.
Yes, she was created as sort of a Lois replacement, as every hero needs their spunky strong female friend as well as their sweet and innocent love story. She was the journalism aspect of the show, the information messenger for all the wacky, and she was entiorely essential to the premise of each individual episode. I can't even begin to imagine how they would have handled early storylines without Chloe's tenacious curiosity for the supernatural and her natural investigative skills.
However it is her feelings for, and subsequent awkward and fractured relationship for Clark that differentiates her from Lois and Lana, and is why she was such a sympathetic character. Her unrequited love kept pulling on my hearts strings, and the heart strings of anyone else who's ever felt that way... especially since i was in my early teens at the time and very much had the same scenario with one of my male friends.
As the show progressed, those feelings and the dynamics between Chloe/Clark, Chloe/Lana and Chloe/Lois in later seasons put a lot of heart into the show. It's not because she had a bit of Lana and a bit of Lois in her that made her popular, it's that she was new and fresh and unlike most characters she was not tied down.
There was so much freedom with Chloe. There was no possibility of anyone saying 'that's not what she does in the comics. That's why they could do things like have her get meteor powers, have her be Lois' cousin, have her and Jimmy be a couple. Because there was no one she was 'destined' to be with.
And then we have the reveal. She is the only character other than Lana that in mythos terms, was allowed to know the secret and still go on living, and walking around :lol: And this made her presence in the show essential after the Kents left, as he would have had no one other than Lana to talk to about his powers and the aliens and the phantom zoners and the fortress. Can you imagine how dull the show would have been if all Chloe's sidekick roles had had to be filled by Lana because Chloe didn't know the truth?
No, Chloe has been huge in Smallville. She may not be remembered in the future of that universe, but she will be remembered in the future in our world!
Should she die? No.
I wanted her to a while back, because i usually think that self sacrifice is a very heroic way to go out, and i wanted her to be remembered for being that much of a hero, kinda like Doyle in Angel. But unlike Angel, i don't think Clark could handle it. I think he would whine and moan and just become a recluse.
What would be much more interesting now is if she got so deep into helping the JL, that she had to dissapear. That her existence was literally erased so that she wouldn't be hunted by something/someone. And under a new name, she could be a wonderful new part of the JL.
Jedimaster_TTBaby
01-20-2009, 04:53 AM
Live!
Lazy Boy
01-20-2009, 05:45 AM
Oh course she'll die. Of old age.
Clark being kryptonian has a longer life span than other people, so eventually Chloe would die.
I agree.
If you ask if Chloe dies on Smallville - my answer is "hell no!"
haydenclaireheroes
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
the show whould not be the same with out chloe.
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I agree.
If you ask if Chloe dies on Smallville - my answer is "hell no!"
agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 100%
lostmyway
01-20-2009, 02:47 PM
I don't think she's going to die anytime soon. It's too easy and predictable to happen. I think the explanation for Chloe not being known will be a lot more complex.
Bringitback
01-20-2009, 03:07 PM
Just kill her already.
Vindellavon
01-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Just kill her already.
They already did. A second time would be a bit repetitive. :cool:
Bringitback
01-20-2009, 05:38 PM
They already did. A second time would be a bit repetitive. :cool:
I wouldn't mind :)
kg1507
01-20-2009, 05:41 PM
Chloe can't die! If anyone is going to die, it needs to be Lex, wherever the heck he is right now.
kal-el_Girl
01-20-2009, 07:49 PM
I wouldn't mind :)
me neither LOL btw I love your avi!! :p
Vindellavon
01-20-2009, 08:27 PM
I wouldn't mind :)
:lol: A lot of people wouldn't.
But I'm sticking with the blonde. Long Live Tiny Non Mythos Blonde! :D
Black Panda
01-20-2009, 11:04 PM
I doubt they'd spoil an eventual death. But who knows.
Well, I'd hope not, but Lionel was way spoiled.
Per what was said in Legion I think it's not unreasonable to expect Chloe might die yet again to save Clark so he can fly off to save the day.
Bringitback
01-21-2009, 03:46 AM
me neither LOL btw I love your avi!! :p
thank you :D,
medea
01-21-2009, 10:46 AM
Clark said it better : "Chloe Sullivan doesn't die! You hear me?" :p
Vindellavon
01-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Clark said it better : "Chloe Sullivan doesn't die! You hear me?" :p
Amen!
lana 9
01-21-2009, 04:33 PM
live
redheadluvgoddess
01-31-2009, 06:38 PM
No, Chloe has been huge in Smallville. She may not be remembered in the future of that universe, but she will be remembered in the future in our world
What would be much more interesting now is if she got so deep into helping the JL, that she had to dissapear. That her existence was literally erased so that she wouldn't be hunted by something/someone. And under a new name, she could be a wonderful new part of the JL.
I agree! If I don't get Chlois, I damn well had better get that scenario you proposed. At this point, for her to die (for good) would be ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason she wouldn't be remembered in the future (mythos) as of now. If she had died in the season 3 finale? Sure, I can buy that her relationship with Clark wasn't developed enough for the world to talk about for thousands of years. Chloe now? Irreplaceable. She's everything to Clark, whether you ship them romantically or not.
Meh. Just kill off Lois and give Chloe the official name of Clark's soulmate... since she already IS his soulmate. :D
Oh, and my answer was "live"
Inked
02-02-2009, 06:31 AM
i agree! If i don't get chlois, i damn well had better get that scenario you proposed. At this point, for her to die (for good) would be ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason she wouldn't be remembered in the future (mythos) as of now. If she had died in the season 3 finale? Sure, i can buy that her relationship with clark wasn't developed enough for the world to talk about for thousands of years. Chloe now? Irreplaceable. She's everything to clark, whether you ship them romantically or not.
Meh. Just kill off lois and give chloe the official name of clark's soulmate... Since she already is his soulmate. :d
oh, and my answer was "live"
ita :)
rebecavaldez
03-26-2009, 05:17 PM
Live live live!
Vindellavon
04-29-2009, 05:52 PM
She'll be back, baby!
ChloeandClark
01-31-2010, 10:10 AM
Folks, I think this episode gives some good clues about what would happened to Chloe at the series end. Just look at the Chlark dialogue below. If you see how the direction of Chloe's character has gone since then (befriending Davis/Doomsday, losing Jimmy, doing questionable stuffs without Clark's knowledge, etc), I think this would only lead into a situation where she would become more of a liability than an asset to Clark and at some point he would have to deal w/her. I don't like it at all, I've been a fan of Chloe since season 1, but I could see the sense of an inevitable doom.
Chloe: I just hope that if it turned out that there was no other choice, you would choose to do the right thing.
Clark: What choice would that be?
Chloe: To do what's best for the world... and not for me. Know that I'd understand.
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