Clana Revised

[Clana4Life]

I loved Clana in this episode - working together, no angst. :) I loved how Lana encouraged Clark. She said everything he needed to hear. It was like we were seeing a mature relationship. And even Saturn Girl leaves open the possibility of what could be. The future/destiny is not written in stone. Did anyone see all of the Lana/Clark pictures in Clark's house? Wow! Saturn Girl picked up one. And then that last scene with Clana where he asks Lana what they will write next - priceless. Lana's destiny is sounding pretty great, too. I look forward to the next three episodes with her in it. She definitely adds to the show. I think this is a Clana everyone can get on board with. :)

[Alexander III]

OMG, there's no more love vibe between them <SOB> :(

[Aloof]

I vote no.

[FLyxNERD]

i think they still do..but on a friendship level...i think lana loves him a bit more but shes just holding it in

[WickedJenn]

I'm making this the Clana thread, I've left the poll in place.

[melissan02]

OMG, there's no more love vibe between them <SOB> :(

Eh, I'm not sure about that:(....and I'm a full CLOISer!!

I thought it was pathetic that Imra knew Lana wanted to know about her and Clark in the future!!
I wish Imra had been more specific with Lana....as in:"NO, Lana! YOu and Clark are kaput in 3 more episodes! YOu don't end up with him!":p:p

[Deana]

Saturn Girl seemed a little to appreciative of Lana. 0_0

She must have had to stop being a unrelenting ball and chain to a guy too.

Saturn Girl: I can read your mind so much for you trying your secrets and lies.

[melissan02]

Yep, right back to the lies! Um, um, um, um, um...shame! (shakes finger)

[TJY09]

This looks like a Clana thread.......................I'm leaving

[Kid Collins]

There was definitely a love vibe especially in the end scene. Clark's eyes glow when he looks at Lana still.

And he still keeps pictures of himself and Lana at the Farm. That's definitely telling.

Being able to talk to each other like adults is a refreshing change.

[Clana4Life]

Eh, I'm not sure about that:(....and I'm a full CLOISer!!

I thought it was pathetic that Imra knew Lana wanted to know about her and Clark in the future!!
I wish Imra had been more specific with Lana....as in:"NO, Lana! YOu and Clark are kaput in 3 more episodes! YOu don't end up with him!":p:p


Yeah, there still seems to be some love there. Clark kept gazing at her, almost like he was seeing her for the first time. He also looked and asked her what will come next in their destiny book - I think together and individually. Also, SaturnGirl leaves open the possibility of a Clana future.

[hyped4lnc]

I am a Cloiser, but I enjoyed the last scene with them. I can see them becoming just friends.

[davidbrenton]

I don't like how they are handling Clana. It should be a "we're over thing." Not a, "Can we do this?" thing? Lois seriously got ***** slapped by the writers and it sucks for everyone.

I voted no. Lana should love him, but he should be over her, a la the comics.

TW pisses me off because he plays up his love of Lana instead of showing us he's over it.

[celita]

I am fan of Clark as much as the next person but the writers SCREWED it with him. How they show photos of CLANA on the house still....so much to move on...:rolleyes:

I was one of the first saying that I didn't believe that Lana would have been handle the same....but we are back to the "Lana is the wiser and greatest" era.....

Welcome back AlMilles...I hope you are enjoying the bodies you are inhabiting right now

[Clana4Life]

I am a Cloiser, but I enjoyed the last scene with them. I can see them becoming just friends.

I don't think they will ever be "just friends." But I enjoyed them overall. Lana has a big future ahead of her. Lana encourages Clark to be everything he can be. They are giving us a Clana that really works. Too bad we don't have many more eps of this left, but I'll enjoy Clana while it's here. Clark sure does have a lot of pictures of her in his house.

[melissan02]

Yeah, there still seems to be some love there. Clark kept gazing at her, almost like he was seeing her for the first time. He also looked and asked her what will come next in their destiny book - I think together and individually. Also, SaturnGirl leaves open the possibility of a Clana future.WOah, hold up there!:eek: I didn't get that impression from telepath chick:lol: at all---about a Clana future! Mainly because, I KNOW THERE ISN'T ONE!! ;)
Several decades of the story tells us all (Geoff Johns, and the rest) that it's LOIS LANE!;)

I just think there was a love vibe. I expected there to be. Until they give full closure, and Lana's secrets are exposed:rolleyes:, they're trying to "feel" each other out---and that's all.
It's gonna close and close with finality. That was an impression I got as well.

GONE IN 3 BABY!! GONE IN 3!!

[dru-zod2501]

I vote no on romantic love

But I'm far more impressed that Lana was a useful asset not a dying appendage.

PS3 you never cease to amaze me!

[melissan02]

I don't think they will ever be "just friends." But I enjoyed them overall. Lana has a big future ahead of her. Lana encourages Clark to be everything he can be. They are giving us a Clana that really works. Too bad we don't have many more eps of this left, but I'll enjoy Clana while it's here. Clark sure does have a lot of pictures of her in his house.

a lot? :confused: I just saw one.:cool:

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I vote no on romantic love

But I'm far more impressed that Lana was a useful asset not a dying appendage.

PS3 you never cease to amaze me!

:rotfl:

[Kid Collins]

I am fan of Clark as much as the next person but the writers SCREWED it with him. How they show photos of CLANA on the house still....so much to move on...:rolleyes:

I was one of the first saying that I didn't believe that Lana would have been handle the same....but we are back to the "Lana is the wiser and greatest" era.....

Welcome back AlMilles...I hope you are enjoying the bodies you are inhabiting right now

Lana didn't do anything but give Clark advise to help save Chloe. That was Clark's opinion to begin with. He wanted to save Chloe at all costs. So Lana just backed him up on his original opinion.

He still ended up saving Chloe all on his own.

TPTB didn't Clark into a moron in this ep.

[davidbrenton]

I am fan of Clark as much as the next person but the writers SCREWED it with him. How they show photos of CLANA on the house still....so much to move on...:rolleyes:

I was one of the first saying that I didn't believe that Lana would have been handle the same....but we are back to the "Lana is the wiser and greatest" era.....

Welcome back AlMilles...I hope you are enjoying the bodies you are inhabiting right now

AGREED. Now, if Timester will show his face around here to get his comeupins for being WRONG about the "New Lana". It's the same friggen character we've watched for years, pawning over Clark and giving him life lessons. Next thing you know she'll be signing her name for him.

[Clana4Life]

a lot? :confused: I just saw one.:cool:

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:rotfl:

Seriously, there were three that were visible. I recorded the ep. There were more pictures on the table, so there might even be more, but there was definitely more than one. How's that for moving on? He's basically walking into the house everyday and seeing her pictures.

[Ginx]

I think they like each other as friends.

[hyped4lnc]

Lana didn't do anything but give Clark advise to help save Chloe. That was Clark's opinion to begin with. He wanted to save Chloe at all costs. So Lana just backed him up on his original opinion.

He still ended up saving Chloe all on his own.

TPTB didn't Clark into a moron in this ep.
You're right. Clark's natural instinct was to save everyone, but he had the Legion in his head telling him that it would be impossible. Lana just reassured him that his instincts are always right.

I saw nothing wrong with Lana in this episode, but then again, I never hated the character. :cool:

[Kid Collins]

Seriously, there were three that were visible. I recorded the ep. There were more pictures on the table, so there might even be more, but there was definitely more than one. How's that for moving on? He's basically walking into the house everyday and seeing her pictures.

Yep at least 3. He had 3 pictures in a row of him and Lana.

1 is just not enough! :lol:

[Clana4Life]

Yep at least 3. He had 3 pictures in a row of him and Lana.

1 is just not enough! :lol:

I know!! It was good. That last scene with him gazing at her was great. No matter how long she's gone, his love for her seems constant. The end scene was the best and of course the hug in the beginning. And the fact that Lana asks Saturn Girl about "their future" shows how she's interested in the possibility of still being with Clark, too. I wish we could get more eps like this. I think Clark and Lana make a great crime-fighting team, not to mention couple.

[paolinki25]

If by love you mean the annoying angsty looks, then no. And Clark keeping all those pictures is just plain weird.

[rysamad]

We all know that they still and will love each other, but people here wont think that and wil vote no just because they arent clana shipper so it doesnt matter at all.

[theotherJane]

Blech!

[Clana4Life]

We all know that they still and will love each other, but people here wont think that and wil vote no just because they arent clana shipper so it doesnt matter at all.

Yeah, I agree. But even some Cloisers said they can still see the love. It's only been 7 months. They are not "out of love" yet. I really don't think they ever will be.

[Kid Collins]

I know!! It was good. That last scene with him gazing at her was great. No matter how long she's gone, his love for her seems constant. The end scene was the best and of course the hug in the beginning. And the fact that Lana asks Saturn Girl about "their future" shows how she's interested in the possibility of still being with Clark, too. I wish we could get more eps like this. I think Clark and Lana make a great crime-fighting team, not to mention couple.


I agree.

Remind me does the ring that the Legion left Clark allow for Time Travel or something?

Maybe that ring will play a part in Requiem.

Lana flying off into the future would be great. She and Clark could be together later on. Just my spec.

[Clana4Life]

I agree.

Remind me does the ring that the Legion left Clark allow for Time Travel or something?

Maybe that ring will play a part in Requiem.

Lana flying off into the future would be great. She and Clark could be together later on. Just my spec.

That's exactly what I think. I was going to write a fanfic on it, but I'm waiting to see how it will all play out. I thought it was a bit of foreshadowing to show Lana looking at the ring. I think this makes everyone happy. CLosiers get their Clois in the present and we get our Clana in the future to come - maybe in 2100. :)

Back on topic. Clana 2009! :D

[suzieQ]

Still ion my Clana cloud........:D

Imra came to Lana to convince Clark to kill Chloe.....and Lana REFUSED to even consider Chloe being hurt was ever an option.....by Clark or by Her! Giving Lana BIG props there! Lana wasn't afraid of another Alien, Lana is stronger and more confident, Clark sees that too! He knows that Lana sees him as a savior of people but knows him and his values with which he was raised. She has complete faith in him.......it was an important step that Clark took in that faith in himself. Well done.

Loved, LOVED the porch scene.....Kristin and Tom are just two incredibly beautiful people, not just physically but the spirit with which they express themselves with each other. It is a very rare chemistry indeed. Smallville struck gold when they cast KK and TW! Even after months apart, The Clark and Lana magic is so there!

The Legion has great respect for Lana and I thank Geoff Johns for showing that......AND.....the emphasis was that Lana does have an important future.....a destiny herself and that is what I want to see finally!

I guess Chloe's future is still to be determined.....maybe she will be part of the Superman future?

Well done Legion.......bring on more Lana!!:)

[xrayvision]

I wish this is how Clana always was. Too bad. I actually enjoyed their scenes together for a change.

[Clana4Life]

I wish this is how Clana always was. Too bad. I actually enjoyed their scenes together for a change.

Yeah, I wish this as well.

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Still ion my Clana cloud........:D

Imra came to Lana to convince Clark to kill Chloe.....and Lana REFUSED to even consider Chloe being hurt was ever an option.....by Clark or by Her! Giving Lana BIG props there! Lana wasn't afraid of another Alien, Lana is stronger and more confident, Clark sees that too! He knows that Lana sees him as a savior of people but knows him and his values with which he was raised. She has complete faith in him.......it was an important step that Clark took in that faith in himself. Well done.

Loved, LOVED the porch scene.....Kristin and Tom are just two incredibly beautiful people, not just physically but the spirit with which they express themselves with each other. It is a very rare chemistry indeed. Smallville struck gold when they cast KK and TW! Even after months apart, The Clark and Lana magic is so there!

The Legion has great respect for Lana and I thank Geoff Johns for showing that......AND.....the emphasis was that Lana does have an important future.....a destiny herself and that is what I want to see finally!

I guess Chloe's future is still to be determined.....maybe she will be part of the Superman future?

Well done Legion.......bring on more Lana!!:)

From the way SaturnGirl talks, I don't think Clois is written in stone yet. It seems that at this point it is open. So I'm keeping Clana hope alive and I too am on my Clana high! :)

[thehenry89]

yeah...I don't think so.

[globalbudd3]

Just need to say, Go CLANA!!!!

[Kreukie]

I was waiting for Clana to start making out after Clark stopped talking, with the way they were both looking at each other. :lol:

[hyped4lnc]

Yep at least 3. He had 3 pictures in a row of him and Lana.

1 is just not enough! :lol:
Earlier in the season, her picture was seen in a drawer. Now they are out and about.

[Clana4Life]

Just need to say, Go CLANA!!!!

Holding up the pom-poms and Clana-banner! :D

[Iluvgreen]

Clark loves Lois Lane.

[minerva73]

I don't think they still love each other. I mean especially after Lana looked at Imra and Imra told her that she was known for more than just her relationship with Clark Kent. That pretty much set in stone her decision that she made when she confirmed their break-up in Bride. She realized that she could still be good friends with Clark while still making a big name for herself.

I'm not too sure if Clark still has those feelings, but I don't want those feelings to come back again. I love that they actually interacted peacefully as friends and that they could just talk about stuff without the added angst (which was another reason why this episode was fantastic).

[Clana4Life]

Clark loves Lois Lane.

Ok, Clark loves Lana.

[Kid Collins]

Clark loves Lois Lane.

Yeah, that's why he has 3 pictures of him and Lana displayed right near the door so that he sees their pictures everytime he comes in and out of his house.

[Kreukie]

From the way SaturnGirl talks, I don't think Clois is written in stone yet. It seems that at this point it is open. So I'm keeping Clana hope alive and I too am on my Clana high! :)

That's interesting, I know there's a comic scan on SWEET where it shows future Clark with future Lana way into the future... Wait found it:

http://lana-clark.net/comic/GenerationsFull1.jpg

[Kid Collins]

Earlier in the season, her picture was seen in a drawer. Now they are out and about.

Cause Lana's back and Clark's giving her a huge hint.

Come back honey, baby, sweetie pie. :D

[Clana4Life]

That's interesting, I know there's a comic scan on SWEET where it shows future Clark with future Lana way into the future... Wait found it:

http://lana-clark.net/comic/GenerationsFull1.jpg

On my gosh!!! I wish everyone could see and read this comic. Where did you get it? I want to read the whole thing! There is Clana-hope! :)

[thehenry89]

:rolleyes: there are also comics where clark ends up with wonder woman, and Lori Lermis. And there are a great deal of comics (the overwhelming majority) that end with clark and Lois.

[doodie8808]

is it just me or are some people just grasping at the straws to prove their point for their ships! (clana chlark or clois )

[Kid Collins]

is it just me or are some people just grasping at the straws to prove their point for their ships! (clana chlark or clois )

Well this is a Clana thread. :rolleyes:

[thehenry89]

is it just me or are some people just grasping at the straws to prove their point for their ships! (clana chlark or clois )

It's not just you.

[suzieQ]

That's interesting, I know there's a comic scan on SWEET where it shows future Clark with future Lana way into the future... Wait found it:

http://lana-clark.net/comic/GenerationsFull1.jpg

I have always loved that scan! Thanks for bringing it here!

I just want to say that Clark had one of my favorite pictures of Clark and Lana....the one I have in my avi! The picture at Jonathan's election night and Clark and Lana were engaged. To me that was a shot of Clark and Lana of pure happiness, love and acceptance. Lana knew Clark's secret, Clark asked Lana to marry him after he decided to tell Lana the truth, Clark made Lana her engagement ring, Lana accepted him and his proposal of marriage, then they told Martha and Jonathan about their engagement. Jonathan says the line that I will always love him for, " Lana, I can't see Clark with anyone else but you!" It was the happiest Clark and Lana moment.....and Clark had a picture of it in his living room......now I am happy!

[Clana4Life]

is it just me or are some people just grasping at the straws to prove their point for their ships! (clana chlark or clois )

Not sure, but I think you might be close to breaking a K-site rule.

[christina]

they're last scene proved they still love each other. most people here seem to vote no because they hate the idea of clana but the question wasn't whether or not you liked the Clana, it is an honest answer question to what was shown on screen! so stop the denial people! :lol:

[Kreukie]

Am I in a Clana thread or a Clois thread? :lol:

Seriously, who knew posting a scan in respond to another post would rub people the wrong way. :lol:

[Clana4Life]

Am I in a Clana thread or a Clois thread? :lol:

Seriously, who knew posting a scan in respond to another post would rub people the wrong way. :lol:

That scan was great. Which comic is that from. I'd like to read the rest. I think TPTB will leave open the possibility for Clana. They want to satisfy both ships (Clois present), Clana future. Afterall, Clana has so much history. I don't think it will ever really be over. Lana is a good one to wait 700 years! :) Can't say I would.

[fuchsiaRose]

The whole clana stuff was stupid and didn't make sense. 1) Since when is Lana the person that tells Clark NOT to kill people. He's said that himself time after time again. Suddenly Lana is here and he's questioning that and SHE has to tell him that he can save his friends and save the world? Lame. Oh, and Lana seems to have forgotten that she's the one who wanted to kill Lex to save the world last season. Hypocrite. 2) CLANA is just plain boring. It's always "Lana let me do everything for you." "No, Clark, I'm a big girl. I can do it myself." How many times will Lana have to explain to Clark than she can do her own thing. She can research. She can defend herself. Every time she is back it's the same clana crap. 3) Why in the world would Clark still have photos of Lana in the house? That makes no sense. He was supposed to be moving on. And now here are PS3 catering to the fans again (the clana fans that is) and showing these photos that have NEVER been there before. Lame. 4) At the end the whole "What will be our next move" or whatever was said was so stupid. Clark it's been seven years and you STILL don't know the answer? It's to move on!!


Any way you cut it. You bring back Lana and Clark regresses. I'm personally not watching until Infamous.

[Kid Collins]

Any way you cut it. You bring back Lana and Clark regresses. I'm personally not watching until Infamous.

Oooh that breaks my heart. NOT. :lol:

[Clana4Life]

The whole clana stuff was stupid and didn't make sense. 1) Since when is Lana the person that tells Clark NOT to kill people. He's said that himself time after time again. Suddenly Lana is here and he's questioning that and SHE has to tell him that he can save his friends and save the world? Lame. Oh, and Lana seems to have forgotten that she's the one who wanted to kill Lex to save the world last season. Hypocrite. 2) CLANA is just plain boring. It's always "Lana let me do everything for you." "No, Clark, I'm a big girl. I can do it myself." How many times will Lana have to explain to Clark than she can do her own thing. She can research. She can defend herself. Every time she is back it's the same clana crap. 3) Why in the world would Clark still have photos of Lana in the house? That makes no sense. He was supposed to be moving on. And now here are PS3 catering to the fans again (the clana fans that is) and showing these photos that have NEVER been there before. Lame. 4) At the end the whole "What will be our next move" or whatever was said was so stupid. Clark it's been seven years and you STILL don't know the answer? It's to move on!!


Any way you cut it. You bring back Lana and Clark regresses. I'm personally not watching until Infamous.

Well, I understand the things you are saying, but I see these things differently.
1.) Lana was just encouraging Clark to go with his first instinct. Clark didn't want to kill Chloe anyway. So I felt like Lana supported Clark's first decision. 2.) I think Clark finally got that Lana's a "big girl." The way he looked at her tonight showed that he was seeing her in a new light. 3.) Yeah, he has a lot of photos of her - a lot. What can I say? I guess he still loves her and likes to look at her picture everyday and remember those great times. What would be funny is if we saw these exact same pictures at Lana's house, too.:rotfl:4.) I think Clark is trying to find out from Lana's perspective if there's a possibility of them getting back together, so I don't think he's ready to move on just yet. I don't think Clark regressed. He never got closure, so he's not ready to move on yet. And with Lana back, he's probably wondering why he has to move on from her.

[thehenry89]

Well, I understand the things you are saying, but I see these things differently.
1.) Lana was just encouraging Clark to go with his first instinct. Clark didn't want to kill Chloe anyway. So I felt like Lana supported Clark's first decision. 2.) I think Clark finally got that Lana's a "big girl." The way he looked at her tonight showed that he was seeing her in a new light. 3.) Yeah, he has a lot of photos of her - a lot. What can I say? I guess he still loves her and likes to look at her picture everyday and remember those great times. What would be funny is if we saw these exact same pictures at Lana's house, too.:rotfl:4.) I think Clark is trying to find out from Lana's perspective if there's a possibility of them getting back together, so I don't think he's ready to move on just yet. I don't think Clark regressed. He never got closure, so he's not ready to move on yet. And with Lana back, he's probably wondering why he has to move on from her.

all i can say is I'm glad she'll be gone in 3 episodes

[Clana4Life]

all i can say is I'm glad she'll be gone in 3 episodes

I take it your note a Clana fan? But you seem to like this thread. :)

[thehenry89]

I take it your note a Clana fan? But you seem to like this thread. :)

No I am not;)

[Clana4Life]

No I am not;)

Well, was there anything about Clana in this episode that you could appreciate or that you did like?

[thehenry89]

Well, was there anything about Clana in this episode that you could appreciate or that you did like?

Actually yes. I thought they were moving toward some nice closure, and maybe in the future (if we get a season 9) they will have clark and lana as friends, the way he is with chloe, and the way they are in the comics, some of the comics anyway.

[Clana4Life]

They haven't talked about the break-up in any great detail yet. I think Clark is wondering why they aren't together and Lana is having second thoughts about why she left.

[FLyxNERD]

Go clana!!!!!!!!

[Clana4Life]

Go clana!!!!!!!!

Welcome FLyxNERD. Clana pom-poms are to the right and Clana-banners are too the left! :D

[WickedJenn]

General note:

Everyone is entitled to their opinions--NO psychoanalyzing or insulting/flaming other fanbases per rule #10.

Also--though the topic is Clark and Lana, this is not a fancamp thread as they are not permitted.

Thank you.

[Liquid-Prince]

They will always love each other.

[pizzahead2490]

i saw some touchy muchy eye connection mombo jumbo going on in the clana scenes. thats all i am gonna say....:(

[Alicia Chipy]

They love each other but are falling out of being in love gradually.

[Gan-EL: the last son]

Yes they love eachother, but its not a romantic love, it is a friendship love.

[tbird4u]

They will always love one another just not in a romantic sense, He may still have doubts and stuff but in 3 more epis this isnt gonna matter anyway cause she will be gone.

[dreamsofnever]

Well, was there anything about Clana in this episode that you could appreciate or that you did like?

Just wanted to say kudos for asking this in such a polite way.

And I will say that if Clana had been written like this in the first few seasons, I would have been much more of a fan.

Them working together would have been good, but I didn't like that the writers put Clark in the position where Lana had to tell him what to do, if that makes sense.

But that's been hashed and re-hashed already.

Anyways, I think there were some okay moments between them, but it's kind of 'too little, too late for me.'

But if I was a Clana shipper coming into the episode, I probably would have enjoyed them a lot more, so more power to ya for enjoying the Clana in the episode :)

[trojan20]

Clana was sooooooooo good tonight!!! YEEEEEEEEEEESSS finally!!:D and was it me or did i see almost another clana kiss in the upcoming trailer:eek: that makes 2 clana kisses:p im gona be sleepin really good tonight;)

[Sunny8]

Did anyone see all of the Lana/Clark pictures in Clark's house? Wow! Saturn Girl picked up one.

Yep. I saw all those Clark/Lana pics and I was wondering where the heck they came from. I have never seen them in any other episode and I look closely at the house all the time. Did he run around putting the pictures out when Lana showed up so that she would think he was still into her? Or did the writers think the audience would think that he was still into her just because of those pics? We'll probably never see those pictures again after KK is finished with her contract. Next batch of pictures we'll be seeing are those of Clark and Lois together around the farm smiling at each other while they are feeding the horses, him teaching her how to cook with his arms around her waist while looking at her with love in his eyes while she is stirring something in a bowl, both of them sitting on the sofa with Clark's arm around her while they smile into the camera, laughing and looking lovingly into each other eyes while the sun is setting, etc. :lol:

[joemamma]

I am fan of Clark as much as the next person but the writers SCREWED it with him. How they show photos of CLANA on the house still....so much to move on...:rolleyes:

I was one of the first saying that I didn't believe that Lana would have been handle the same....but we are back to the "Lana is the wiser and greatest" era.....

Welcome back AlMilles...I hope you are enjoying the bodies you are inhabiting right now

QFT!

Couldn't have said it better.

[Sunny8]

I just want to say that Clark had one of my favorite pictures of Clark and Lana....the one I have in my avi! The picture at Jonathan's election night and Clark and Lana were engaged. To me that was a shot of Clark and Lana of pure happiness, love and acceptance. Lana knew Clark's secret, Clark asked Lana to marry him after he decided to tell Lana the truth, Clark made Lana her engagement ring, Lana accepted him and his proposal of marriage, then they told Martha and Jonathan about their engagement. Jonathan says the line that I will always love him for, " Lana, I can't see Clark with anyone else but you!" It was the happiest Clark and Lana moment.....and Clark had a picture of it in his living room......now I am happy!

The happiest Clark and Lana moment? Is that the one where after that moment Lana then receives a call from Lex, does not stay to party with her to be husband and her to be in laws but runs immediately to Lex, gives Lex an inkling that she knows Clark's secret, drives away from him while talking to Clark (who by the way has Lois standing by his side celebrating instead of his newly engaged fiance), gets hit by a bus because she is not paying attention to the road as she should, dies and then returns and takes Jonathan's place by living instead of dying? That's their happiest moment? Thank God, then that Clana is almost over.

[vyperman7]

Well considering the fact that Kristin Kruek is only appearing as Lana for five episodes, with three left to go, I don't really see that leaving much time to resurrect anything...LOL I mean after her fifth episode, she is gone from the show for good.

[Timester]

AGREED. Now, if Timester will show his face around here to get his comeupins for being WRONG about the "New Lana". It's the same friggen character we've watched for years, pawning over Clark and giving him life lessons. Next thing you know she'll be signing her name for him.

And who says I'm wrong? You?

We are supposed to throw stones to Lana now when she is a GOOD influence? I'm not a hypocrite and most certainly I don't see a 7-heads monster everytime I see someone called "Lana Lang". Chloe does what Lana did, ALL THE TIME.

The photos situation is kinda dumb, yes, but it's so minor in related to what happened on the episode that makes it almost pointless.

And it's pretty obvious what they are doing, they are writting Clana OUT of Clark's system. As much I hate Clana (and AlMiles Lana), she is indeed a HUGE part of the story, so sometimes we have to go one step back to move two foward. They know Lana is gone in 3 episodes, after that is over.

[blackcelebration]

And who says I'm wrong? You?

We are supposed to throw stones to Lana now when she is a GOOD influence? I'm not a hypocrite and most certainly I don't see a 7-heads monster everytime I see someone called "Lana Lang". Chloe does what Lana did, ALL THE TIME.

The photos situation is kinda dumb, yes, but it's so minor in related to what happened on the episode that makes it almost pointless.

And it's pretty obvious what they are doing, they are writting Clana OUT of Clark's system. As much I hate Clana (and AlMiles Lana), she is indeed a HUGE part of the story, so sometimes we have to go one step back to move two foward. They know Lana is gone in 3 episodes, after that is over.

I have to disagree with Lana being a HUGE part of the story.

Yes, she is a character from Clark's life but she is merely a love interest, in Smallville for Clark, in the comics vice versa. Indeed the film versions barely mention her (Apart from Superman III) and her future life usually consists of trying to win Clark back from Lois.

You could quite easily write her character out of Superman mythos and it would have zero effect on how Clark would turn out.

P.S

I am not a Lana Lang hater but just know that her character isn't as important as this episode tries to put out. Hell, Pete "The Boss" Ross, has more of an important role than Lana. :lol:

I think the main problem is that Smallville's Lana Lang has been so horribly written (especially since Season 3) that her character is basically remembered for all the annoying things she did during seasons 3-7 and even for myself it was hard to even watch her character without thinking NEXT!

[Mickey_Bickey]

When a guest star is more captivating than the lead actor, you know something's wrong!

Rokk had all the traits that I so desperately wanted to see Clark have in this episode. Alpha male, confident, secure, wise, and I could go on.

What we saw in Clark's character was pure regression. They completely sacraficed Clark's character to put emphasis on Lana.

Isn't this series supposed to be about Clark? I can't believe they would mess up such an important episode like this with potentially new fans tuning in to see the young Superman!

If I didn't watch this show, I would have thought what Garth said, "I don't know. Are you sure we have the right guy, because he's no Man of Steel?

[blackcelebration]

When a guest star is more captivating than the lead actor, you know something's wrong!

Rokk had all the traits that I so desperately wanted to see Clark have in this episode. Alpha male, confident, secure, wise, and I could go on.

What we saw in Clark's character was pure regression. They completely sacraficed Clark's character to put emphasis on Lana.

Isn't this series supposed to be about Clark? I can't believe they would mess up such an important episode like this with potentially new fans tuning in to see the young Superman!

If I didn't watch this show, I would have thought what Garth said, "I don't know. Are you sure we have the right guy, because he's no Man of Steel?


I have to agree and disagree with that!

My main argument is that although there was no real progress for clark becoming Superman, what was good was when he lectured them about not killing, which is an important, if not the most important principle of Superman.

Indeed, by episodes end, the Legion were making the "Not Killing" rule their most important priority, meaning yes, Clark as a character hadn't really changed, but Clark Kent had changed those around him, which again is another important part of Superman, reminding us humans of what it is that makes us human:D

As for emphasis on Lana, that was annoying but lasted barely 5 minutes in the episode... just think only three more to go :lol: and if they are like that then all the better for it. But Lana's character is for all together different thread :lol:

[BadaBingBadaBoomsday]

All I can say on the subject, is that he still checks her out!:lol:

A sneaky look down as he moves in for a hug in the barn, and his eyes dip down the instance Lana turns. Using some trigonometry I calculated his eyes to be looking.... lower than the back of her head anyway.:D

I see you Clark or should I say Tom?

[Mickey_Bickey]

I have to agree and disagree with that!

My main argument is that although there was no real progress for clark becoming Superman, what was good was when he lectured them about not killing, which is an important, if not the most important principle of Superman.

Indeed, by episodes end, the Legion were making the "Not Killing" rule their most important priority, meaning yes, Clark as a character hadn't really changed, but Clark Kent had changed those around him, which again is another important part of Superman, reminding us humans of what it is that makes us human:D

As for emphasis on Lana, that was annoying but lasted barely 5 minutes in the episode... just think only three more to go :lol: and if they are like that then all the better for it. But Lana's character is for all together different thread :lol:

Yes, only 3 more episodes! :lol:

[Mr.Magic]

My main argument is that although there was no real progress for clark becoming Superman, what was good was when he lectured them about not killing, which is an important, if not the most important principle of Superman.

It's also the principle he doesn't keep. He killed in Superman 2, post-crisis comics, Lois & Clark and Smallville.

["Lois I Never Lie"]

At last we have waited a long time for this one folks!!!! Lana is becoming the person that we all grew to love in the comics and films. A true friend and confidant to Clark and the one and only person besides Lois who he truly trusts.
Way to go PTB

[blackcelebration]

It's also the principle he doesn't keep. He killed in Superman 2, post-crisis comics, Lois & Clark and Smallville.

Those were unique circumstances, but in general Superman would always see killing as a last resort.

And let's not revert back to Season 4 of Lois and Clark or Smallville Season 6 :lol:

[Kid Collins]

When a guest star is more captivating than the lead actor, you know something's wrong!

Rokk had all the traits that I so desperately wanted to see Clark have in this episode. Alpha male, confident, secure, wise, and I could go on.

What we saw in Clark's character was pure regression. They completely sacraficed Clark's character to put emphasis on Lana.

Isn't this series supposed to be about Clark? I can't believe they would mess up such an important episode like this with potentially new fans tuning in to see the young Superman!

If I didn't watch this show, I would have thought what Garth said, "I don't know. Are you sure we have the right guy, because he's no Man of Steel?

Emphasis on Lana? Who saved Chloe? Who did the Legion worship and knew everything about? Clark!

Rokk was not perfect. Rokk was confident that they had to kill Chloe, it was Clark who told them there had to be another way. He didn't have all of the answers either, and he was man enough to admit it to Clark after they saved Chloe.

Clark wasn't regressing in this ep. He was the hero and Lana advised and supported him.

Yeah, he's not the man of Steel because he's still growing into that role. He's not wearing the cape yet.



All I can say on the subject, is that he still checks her out!:lol:

A sneaky look down as he moves in for a hug in the barn, and his eyes dip down the instance Lana turns. Using some trigonometry I calculated his eyes to be looking.... lower than the back of her head anyway.:D

I see you Clark or should I say Tom?

Yeah, he was definitely checking out her assets. He also did it in Bride. :lol:

[Timester]

I have to disagree with Lana being a HUGE part of the story.

Unfortunally, I do agree with you, but that isn't what happens on Smallville. AlMiles made her a HUGE part of the story (story being Smallville, of course).

[Krpyto]

You can love someone and know they love you but also realize your not meant to be together. Have had it happen to me. Sometimes you may meet later on and have a brief moment to rekindle the flame but then move on because its the wrong time or place or situation, happens all the time. I think Clark and Lana will always love each other on a certain level but also realize their destinies are taking them in different directions.

[smallvillefreak24]

they will always love eachother

[Mickey_Bickey]

Emphasis on Lana? Who saved Chloe? Who did the Legion worship and knew everything about? Clark!

Rokk was not perfect. Rokk was confident that they had to kill Chloe, it was Clark who told them there had to be another way. He didn't have all of the answers either, and he was man enough to admit it to Clark after they saved Chloe.

I never said Rokk was perfect, but his character didn't second guess himself, and he was clearly the leader. Something I would have liked to have seen in Clark, like we've seen in the previous episodes of this season. I'd argue that Saturn Girl worshipped Lana BTW. A little too much emphasis on how great Lana will be one day when in the comics there's not much of a destiny.:confused:


Clark wasn't regressing in this ep. He was the hero and Lana advised and supported him.

I disagree. Lana's presence in this episode only served to bring down his character as it always has. It was my biggest fear, and unfortunately it was realized last night. No one should have to tell Clark what to do or what the right thing is to do. Clark is wise enough or should be to know that on his own. Unfortunately, the writers were more focussed on elevating Lana's character to a higher level while sacraficing Clark's character and the rest of the important storylines in the process.


Yeah, he's not the man of Steel because he's still growing into that role. He's not wearing the cape yet.

He was growing until last night's episode. Now he's regressed.





Yeah, he was definitely checking out her assets. He also did it in Bride. :lol:

True! He's been there done that so it's only natural to take a gander.:lol:

[davidbrenton]

And who says I'm wrong? You?

We are supposed to throw stones to Lana now when she is a GOOD influence? I'm not a hypocrite and most certainly I don't see a 7-heads monster everytime I see someone called "Lana Lang". Chloe does what Lana did, ALL THE TIME.

The photos situation is kinda dumb, yes, but it's so minor in related to what happened on the episode that makes it almost pointless.

And it's pretty obvious what they are doing, they are writting Clana OUT of Clark's system. As much I hate Clana (and AlMiles Lana), she is indeed a HUGE part of the story, so sometimes we have to go one step back to move two foward. They know Lana is gone in 3 episodes, after that is over.

Do you think that this "new version" of Lana actually progressed Clark's Character? If so, how?

[Timester]

Do you think that this "new version" of Lana actually progressed Clark's Character? If so, how?

Did she regressed it? It was the LOSH that came with the idea of killing Brainiac, not Lana.

Lana was pointless, that's all. The same would happen without her on the episode. But pointless is different than regressing or progressing.

[davidbrenton]

Did she regressed it? It was the LOSH that came with the idea of killing Brainiac, not Lana.

Lana was pointless, that's all. The same would happen without her on the episode. But pointless is different than regressing or progressing.

Her entire reason for coming back was a "Will they or won't they" plot which isn't fun at all. The whole fact that they are here is a bit regressive. They simply should have brought her back as a friend and supporter. Enough of the failed relationship stuff. All I'm saying. That's really what I expected.

So, was this the "new" Lana of the comics? Has she met your initial expectations?

[Timester]

So, was this the "new" Lana of the comics? Her entire reason for coming back was a "Will they or won't they" plot which isn't fun at all.

Actually, it is the new Lana. The Lana that is just there, the one written by Geoff. :p

[rysamad]

Some comments are so funny....:lol:

[Fly by guy]

This looks like a Clana thread.......................I'm leaving

Goodbye.

[davidbrenton]

Actually, it is the new Lana. The Lana that is just there, the one written by Geoff. :p

I'm glad your content with her arc.

[Timester]

The whole fact that they are here is a bit regressive. They simply should have brought her back as a friend and supporter. Enough of the failed relationship stuff. All I'm saying. That's really what I expected.

But to end up the relationship, they do need to focus on it. It's the Hell Legacy left by AlMiles, the 7 years of Clana and unfortunally for a good story telling, we can't ignore it.

Just look the example of Chloe's memory. Everyone is already complain it was pointless without even knowing what is going to happen in the future episodes. The same would happen if Lana appeared and Clark and Lana would buddies, with 7 years of otherwise. They are not going back, but they do need to work it out.

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I'm glad your content with her arc.

Honestly? I would prefer she would stay in France or Cuba or both.

But since she is back, I'm going to let the arc to finish. If it's indeed for what I always said, that is to end Clana once and for all, then I'll be happy. It's just 3 more episodes.

[Vala]

All I can say on the subject, is that he still checks her out!:lol:

A sneaky look down as he moves in for a hug in the barn, and his eyes dip down the instance Lana turns. Using some trigonometry I calculated his eyes to be looking.... lower than the back of her head anyway.:D

I see you Clark or should I say Tom?
:lol:

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they will always love eachotherYUP!:)

[myankskent]

Did she regressed it? It was the LOSH that came with the idea of killing Brainiac, not Lana.

Lana was pointless, that's all. The same would happen without her on the episode. But pointless is different than regressing or progressing.


I wouldn't say that Lana was pointless. She did give Clark a little pep talk about how he shouldn't waver on his decision to handle Chloe. I didn't find anything wrong with this because it wasn't as if Lana was holding Clark's hand the whole time and giving him a lecture on what he should do. It was Clark who decided not to kill Chloe from the very beginning of the episode as well. Lana played no role in that thought popping into Clark's head. While the pep talk might be a bit much for some, IMO, I've seen a heck of a lot worse on this show where people have practically drawn a diagram for Clark which told him what he needs to do.

[Timester]

I wouldn't say that Lana was pointless. She did give Clark a little pep talk about how he shouldn't waver on his decision to handle Chloe. I didn't find anything wrong with this because it wasn't as if Lana was holding Clark's hand the whole time and giving him a lecture on what he should do. It was Clark who decided not to kill Chloe from the very beginning of the episode as well. Lana played no role in that thought popping into Clark's head.

Yeah, pretty much. For some reason I saw Diana on Lana this episode. The exact same talk Clark usually has with Diana and the exact same answer that Diana would give.

[Superman&Clana]

Well we can see it in their eyes they love eachother still. Too bad for lois:lol:

[loislanefan15]

Can we say two characters that have shown ZERO growth? Two characters that have learned NOTHING, have changed NOT AT ALL, and who have never treated each other well, and have shown no signs of ever changing in their behaviour towards one another? The relationship never worked for a gzillion reasons, and NONE of those reasons have changed or gone away. It is an insult to the viewer to have to put up with this nonsense.

[davidbrenton]

Can we say two characters that have shown ZERO growth? Two characters that have learned NOTHING, have changed NOT AT ALL, and who have never treated each other well, and have shown no signs of ever changing in their behaviour towards one another? The relationship never worked for a gzillion reasons, and NONE of those reasons have changed or gone away. It is an insult to the viewer to have to put up with this nonsense.

Here here.

[suzieQ]

Can we say two characters that have shown ZERO growth? Two characters that have learned NOTHING, have changed NOT AT ALL, and who have never treated each other well, and have shown no signs of ever changing in their behaviour towards one another? The relationship never worked for a gzillion reasons, and NONE of those reasons have changed or gone away. It is an insult to the viewer to have to put up with this nonsense.

Couldn't be farther from the truth!

Clark had a defining moment in his conviction in never taking a life. And Lana standing up to Imra, an alien she just met, and saying she would not encourage Clark to kill nor would considering killing Chloe an option. Lana is stronger and steadfast and she encouraged Clark to hold on to his convictions as well. Lana supported the core of who Clark has always been and she wouldn't let him doubt himself. Absolutely NO regression. How can anyone not see the growth in these two......!

[Bre723]

I think that Clark will always love Lana, but maybe just not in the same way.

[davidbrenton]

Couldn't be farther from the truth!

Clark had a defining moment in his conviction in never taking a life. And Lana standing up to Imra, an alien she just met, and saying she would not encourage Clark to kill nor would considering killing Chloe an option. Lana is stronger and steadfast and she encouraged Clark to hold on to his convictions as well. Lana supported the core of who Clark has always been and she wouldn't let him doubt himself. Absolutely NO regression. How can anyone not see the growth in these two......!

I'll admit, that at this point, there is room for this to be seen as progression. I'm looking at the show pessimistically expecting the worse from this storyline. But, as they wrote it, there is definitely room for it to be percieved either way. Had Clark came to Lana with his decision already made and she simply said "I support you. You're doing the right thing." It would be less arguable. I just don't think Clark should have exhibited even the slightest stumble in his convictions over such a basic principle. It's also a stretch to think a super advanced race would need a "lesson in the value of human life". It was cheese for grade schoolers. But, I can take that with a grain of salt if it does in fact move the characters FORWARD in the following episodes.

[Moonshayde]

I think I am obviously watching a different show than most people and I'm tired of the disrespect I see going around. There is a difference between stating your opinion and then being rude about it.

Clark was in charge and had his own principles that he stood by. I did not see Lana regress him in any way. She was there in a support role which is what Chloe tends to do, but I found Lana's support more realistic.

The LOSH can't inform Lana or Clark about what the exact future holds for them. That would be a violation and interferring. Imra couldn't tell Lana their relationship wouldn't last. That could alter the past. The fact that Clana ends in Superman canon has to be decided by Lana and Clark themselves. No one can tell them.

I believe Lana took Imra's vagueness as a sign that maybe she and Clark could work things out. Clark is at a crossroads in his life and now that he knows he makes such an impact on a cosmic level so he's probably going to wonder how Lana fits into everything. It makes sense that they might try to rekindle something here.

We know how the story ends. The characters don't.

[WickedJenn]

I wouldn't say that Lana was pointless. She did give Clark a little pep talk about how he shouldn't waver on his decision to handle Chloe. I didn't find anything wrong with this because it wasn't as if Lana was holding Clark's hand the whole time and giving him a lecture on what he should do. It was Clark who decided not to kill Chloe from the very beginning of the episode as well. Lana played no role in that thought popping into Clark's head. While the pep talk might be a bit much for some, IMO, I've seen a heck of a lot worse on this show where people have practically drawn a diagram for Clark which told him what he needs to do.

That's pretty much how I felt about it too. I think she just reaffirmed Clark's initial instinct to not kill Chloe.

Continuing--what a difference in the Clana this season compared to last. One scene I particularly liked was in the barn, when Clark told Lana to rest, and she insisted on going to Isis to help find Chloe. I see a much more mature Lana, who knows what she wants out of life now. I'm hoping we continue to see this for the rest of the epis she's in.

On the whole "in love"/"not in love" deal--well, I think this is going to be interpretative per person, each drawing their own conclusion. Some may see romantic love, others may not, but that doesn't make their opinions wrong, everyone in here needs to remember that, per my warning earlier in this thread.

Myself--well, Clark and Lana still really need to get into more of a discussion about things, IMO. The one in "Bride" was a mite too quick to have settled absolutely everything. What I get from Clark is that he's still a bit well, shell-shocked from Lana's reappearance and is trying to process it all. They really didn't have much time to mull it all over due to everything happening in this episode.

We'll have to see how it all plays out. Me, well I like verbal confirmation of feelings and not just looks alone, since looks can be read in various ways.

[Timester]

I just don't think Clark should have exhibited even the slightest stumble in his convictions over such a basic principle.

He kinda does, all the times, as Superman. That's why he has pep talks all the time with Lois, Diana, Bruce and his parents.


It's also a stretch to think a super advanced race would need a "lesson in the value of human life". It was cheese for grade schoolers. But, I can take that with a grain of salt if it does in fact move the characters FORWARD in the following episodes.

The future is very different than we expect to be. Only Earth is a save heaven for aliens and even there is not very safe.

[WickedJenn]

He kinda does, all the times, as Superman. That's why he has pep talks all the time with Lois, Diana, Bruce and his parents.

Yep, I recall one specific comic where Clark is really doubting himself and Lois gives him a pep talk and reassures him that what he's doing is the right thing.

[Physeo]

Do you think that Clana will be back on after last nights episode or not?
Personally I think that the two really love each other I'm a die hard Clana fan so........:\

[WickedJenn]

Threads merged.

[Timester]

For Comic Fans:

I think we can all get a chuckle with these!:lol:

I'm going to pull a leg here, but what has that to do with the topic of the thread?

[pizzahead2490]

lana was in the pic....

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

Yeah they still love each other and will always love each other...but not like that!!!

[zorasuperman]

they love and care for each other deeply on a friendship level; i mean they were high school sweethearts, for lack of better words, just like in teh comics. they are really close and its because of lana that in a way pushes clark to embracve his destiny even more.

but on a romantic level i dont think so; perhaps lana WANTS there to be soemthing more, and hopes for it too, but i think she sees it as something that she wants, and knows nothing more can become of it. she knows clarks destiny is far greater than hers, and she cannot get in the way of that.

[lana 9]

yes clana love eachother but is a friendship love

[Alania]

Well we can see it in their eyes they love eachother still. Too bad for lois:lol:

I'm sorry, what? You lost me somewhere. One word: Destiny.

[Superman&Clana]

I'm sorry, what? You lost me somewhere. One word: Destiny.
Destiny i know. But not on show called Smallville ;)

[Jaderoyale]

^^ I gotta disagree with you.
Yes i may be a Cloiser.
But what relationship, thats had has many ups and downs as theirs, all the angst for 7 YEARS can be considered destiny? If it was Lois and Clark in Clark and Lana's shoes and i was still a Cloiser, i'd be saying the same thing.

We've seen it all for 7 years.
Lana coming back and any return of Clana means bad things imo.

[Alania]

Destiny i know. But not on show called Smallville ;)

Another one: Mythos! U don't mess with mythos.:cool:

[melissan02]

^^ Nothing about seven years of angst makes a case for destiny.

Besides, she's gone in 3, so bit by bit over the next 3 episodes, Clana romantic relationship will come to a definitive close. It will end (and should) without angst,
with dignity, peacefully, friendly, and with finality.:)
We already know from spoilers that Clark has fallen hard for Lois by "Hex" so, it will be interesting to see how we get from Point A to Point B by the time that episode airs. ;);)

[kal-el_Girl]

she's gotta go away, I cannot stand her, she's the only thing that I hated about legion. She's as likable as a 20 lb rock about to hit you in the head.
IMO :lol:

[melissan02]

Another one: Mythos! U don't mess with mythos.:cool:

I agree with this completely. Destiny is one thing, but mythos is another. Lois & Clark have been around for over 70 years as an integral part of the Superman mythos. It is she who is well-known, infamous in fact, as being the love of his life/soulmate. Even folks who don't watch Smallville but are Superman comic fans/afficionados would go ballistic :eek:if they thought such an important part of the mythos had been altered by having Clark end up with anyone besides Lois Lane.;)
****** Yes, SV has taken their own route in regards to the Superman story, and in essence, Lois Lane shouldn't be a part of the scene right now, BUT TPTB chose to (wisely;)) bring in ED for Lois Lane, have started down the path of the legendary love story of Lois & Clark/Superman, so therefore, it will be played out...at least to some degree, ...as we're already seeing.;)
The mythos can be altered in a way that puts a spin on things, but can't be altered to make it look like a complete re-write.
(i.e. you can take many routes to get to one DESTINation, but as long as you arrive at the ORIGINAL;) DESTINation is the point!)

[Minamostaza]

Of course they still love each other....I mean they being in love for almost 7 years, the've been trought so much together.....why in the world make us think that Clark and Lana don't love each other???? The question is: Are they still in love and want to start over again? It seems to me that they want to, that Clar's look at Lana at the end of this episode was too reveleating, he is ovbiously happy that she's back, so he wants to try again, and I think Lana does to.

I don't mean to be rude or something(because I'm a peaceful girl, believe me) but I hate the word destiny, really, it's...it's like you're forced to do what you are destined to do, I don't like the fact that Clark and Lois are going to be together because it's called: destiny.....I mean I wanna see them love each other so much, really, the thing is we don't have to always say 'because it's destiny', don't you think it sounds awful to say it, like it's forcing it? Clark and Lois are going to be together, get married and all we know from comic books, but let's just not put the word 'destiny' as answer for their relationship. Clois moments are great!!!

[geminis]

I'm tolerating Lana. What I didn't like was the Lana love fest speech that Imra gave. That was way too over the top. I'll admit that Clark and Lana shared some chemistry on the porch but they also have a ton of bad history. Lana has hurt Clark more times than I can count and dumped him several times as well. Clark deserves a face to face with Lana; I'm not going to say heart to heart because I don't think his heart (or hers) are fully invested any more.

They may still have the faint hope that their lives are intertwined, and to some extent they are, but when the regular Smallville writers take over without any of Geoff Johns' influence, we'll see what the future holds for Clana. I think that they will find that the romance is gone.

[darkone]

Clark's totally in Lanaland and I'm loving it. :D. And for once it was nice to see that Clark wasn't donwgraded as 'Copyboy' or other crap while acting heroish. Legion showed me why Clark and Lana are totally right for each other.


I think that they will find that the romance is gone.

Clark's tongue in Lana's mouth proves the opposite. :lol:

[thehenry89]

*sigh* three more episdoes...

[Superman&Clana]

^^ Nothing about seven years of angst makes a case for destiny.

Besides, she's gone in 3, so bit by bit over the next 3 episodes, Clana romantic relationship will come to a definitive close. It will end (and should) without angst,
with dignity, peacefully, friendly, and with finality.:)
We already know from spoilers that Clark has fallen hard for Lois by "Hex" so, it will be interesting to see how we get from Point A to Point B by the time that episode airs. ;);)
3 episodes for now. If this is the last season then there will be 1 or 2 more episodes with lana in it.

[geminis]

Sorry, I respectively beg to differ. Tongue in the mouth is something slightly different than romantic; plus, we don't know if Clark's tongue goes there. If it does, well, one for you, but I just don't see it. Not after Bizarro and Lex.

And I think Clark might not mind being called copyboy; it might be rather refreshing to be treated as normal and human after alternatively being fawned over then dumped then fawned over then dumped, etc., etc., etc.

[Alania]

3 episodes for now. If this is the last season then there will be 1 or 2 more episodes with lana in it.

Bring it!! :cool:

[Clana Kent]

Bring it!! :cool:

Can't wait to see that :) Dying to know what her storyline will be like :D:)

[ginnyfan]

Clark's pictures of Lana didn't surprise me. It reminds me of "Emma" by Jane Austin, how Harriett Smith had that box of trinkets that she kept long after her hopes with Mr. Elton were dashed. Clark is still in the mourning period with his love for Lana. He's vulnerable, he's sad, he's not quite over her but it's not like any of the reasons they broke up have changed. He's watching her goodbye video, he's looking at pictures of himself and Lana (some of which seem to have been taken by stalkers). He was dazzled by Lois at Chloe's wedding and he definitely has unexplored feelings for Lois but right now romantic Clois is more potential than reality. I'm glad, for this reason, that it was an almost kiss between them rather than a full on kiss. Call me oblivious but I didn't see the Clana in the episode as a blow to Clois at all. If there were no bumps in the road of Clark getting over Lana after 7 years... that would ring a little false.

Anyway I was disappointed in the Clana in "Legion." I was really looking forward to something new and interesting between them and what I got where Chloe-esque speeches from Lana which didn't really ring true IMO and Lana-worship from Saturn Girl. I would much rather have cut all that and just had Clark and Lana work together to find Chloe. The episode worked really hard to reassure us that Lana Lang has an amazing destiny. That was odd to me because I was never worried about Lana's future. I was worried about Chloe's future and instead of reassuring us on that point, they added to the uncertainty. Ah well.

We still have three more episodes. Hopefully the Clana will be better then. Lana looked beautiful. But I was disappointed in the writing. Super-close-ups and Lana-worship are not good closure to me.

I enjoyed Lana's reaction to the mention of Brainiac. She seemed terrified. I like that she asked to be included in Clark's search for Chloe. Lana was softer and gentler in this episode and she didn't wear black the whole time, which was nice. The last scene between Clark and Lana "where do we go from here" was very... hopeful and it did leave room for renewed romance. I love that there was NO angst.

Here's hoping for no angst, no worship in the last few episodes. I want to see Clark and Lana talk things out and truly be friends. They'll always love each other but as others have suggested, it will move even further from romantic hope to friendship.

[suzieQ]

Destiny......Iconic.....mythos......"_" more days.........

MOD EDIT

Clark said, I quote, " Destiny means that you don't have a choice..." How sad for Clark....

Lana said, " ....our destiny is not written in some book in the future, ...we write it ourselves,... every day..." Wise girl!

[Alania]

Destiny......Iconic.....mythos......"_" more days.........

MOD EDIT

Clark said, I quote, " Destiny means that you don't have a choice..." How sad for Clark....

Lana said, " ....our destiny is not written in some book in the future, ...we write it ourselves,... every day..." Wise girl!

Lana's right, Suzie, you write your destiny every day. Then, we shall talk again in about three episodes! Are u up to? ;):D

[suzieQ]

Lana's right, Suzie, you write your destiny every day. Then, we shall talk again in about three episodes! Are u up to? ;):D

I already know about Lois.....it bores me....so if that is the "only" path for Clark.....well,....been there, done that ....sorry, don't need to see another rendition. Won't really be watching .....I can turn on my own lightswitches! Thanks anyway!;)

Terry Hatcher was my favorite......

[Alania]

I already know about Lois.....it bores me....so if that is the "only" path for Clark.....well,....been there, done that ....sorry, don't need to see another rendition. Won't really be watching .....I can turn on my own lightswitches! Thanks anyway!;)

Terry Hatcher was my favorite......

Ok, i'll spare you! :D But, try to watch, who knows you might actually get to like them, despite being a "Clana"? :) Yeah, i really liked Teri too, she introduced me to the Lois and Clark world, before that, only knew about superman.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Destiny......Iconic.....mythos......"_" more days.........

MOD EDIT

Clark said, I quote, " Destiny means that you don't have a choice..." How sad for Clark....

Lana said, " ....our destiny is not written in some book in the future, ...we write it ourselves,... every day..." Wise girl!



I do hope this is substantial enough!:)

After hearing so much about destiny lately, I think it's time we talk about history!

A relationship based on mistrust, lies, insecurities and on Clark's part not wanting to share his secret with Lana even while on Red Kryptonite points to nothing but doom. Unfortunately, the angst, lies, deception and road blocks that have transpired between them have taken too much of a toll on this relationship for it to be successful. This has nothing to do with destiny! It has everything to do with their history.

Both of these people need a fresh start with someone else. It has never worked out between them no matter how hard they've tried. It's not possible for them to have any sort of a healthy relationship, because of the damage of the past.

Both will move on, and they'll be better for it, and so will the viewing audience!

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

Of course they still love each other....I mean they being in love for almost 7 years, the've been trought so much together.....why in the world make us think that Clark and Lana don't love each other???? The question is: Are they still in love and want to start over again? It seems to me that they want to, that Clar's look at Lana at the end of this episode was too reveleating, he is ovbiously happy that she's back, so he wants to try again, and I think Lana does to.

I don't mean to be rude or something(because I'm a peaceful girl, believe me) but I hate the word destiny, really, it's...it's like you're forced to do what you are destined to do, I don't like the fact that Clark and Lois are going to be together because it's called: destiny.....I mean I wanna see them love each other so much, really, the thing is we don't have to always say 'because it's destiny', don't you think it sounds awful to say it, like it's forcing it? Clark and Lois are going to be together, get married and all we know from comic books, but let's just not put the word 'destiny' as answer for their relationship. Clois moments are great!!!

Agree:
I don't like the "Destiny" word to much either and I'm a Cloiser! It's very reassuring and all that, but, I'm more interested in the Clois Journey than the Clois end. I really want to feel and see the love that they have for each other, rather than having someone tell it to me. So I hope that Smallville really makes Clois genuine and not take the easy route out.

Agree and disagree:
The perception is that Clana might seem to want get back together :\, but, honestly that's just a moment thing! Right now it looks like Clark may want to be with Lana, but, Lana does not feel that way...at least until the end of legion when she is curious as to how they end up, which suggests that she want's to be with him.

But honestly, I give those feelings Clark thinks he has for Lana 2 episodes...when he starts too see the change in her and does not like it and realizes that they are on two completely different roads.

[suzieQ]

I do hope this is substantial enough!:)

After hearing so much about destiny lately, I think it's time we talk about history!

A relationship based on mistrust, lies, insecurities and on Clark's part not wanting to share his secret with Lana even while on Red Kryptonite points to nothing but doom. Unfortunately, the angst, lies, deception and road blocks that have transpired between them have taken too much of a toll on this relationship for it to be successful. This has nothing to do with destiny! It has everything to do with their history.

Both of these people need a fresh start with someone else. It has never worked out between them no matter how hard they've tried. It's not possible for them to have any sort of a healthy relationship, because of the damage of the past.

Both will move on, and they'll be better for it, and so will the viewing audience!

Thank you for making a point. History ...is important......it can be a "destructive" thing or a "building" thing. And yes, much in the history of Clark and Lana has been painful. Some pain brought on purposefully and much brought on outside of their control. Did they keep coming back to each other because they loved one another....I would say yes.

Did we see any "love" between them last night? IMO, yes! Now, not to go into other spoilers....but the reason for Lana's exit, her "secret" now, and the "sacrifice" she makes are all a mystery now. SO ...I will wait to give my opinion if that warrants the two of them to "give up" on each other and go their separate ways. And it better be a "good" reason. Because, I don't believe that they have shown that Clark and Lana to have a reason to let go. The two of them have struggled as a couple under extraordinary circumstances........there would be no book to tell them how to handle the situations that strengthen or strain this special relationship. Clark himself , finally, recognized in Siren that , "it wasn't easy to handle the double side of life he leads". But we never got a Good chance to see them recover from that. Lana got infected by Brainiac. So much unfinished between Clark and Lana.

SO .....IMO, I can't say that their relationship, finally after Siren, was a relationship that would of headed to destructiveness or was a relationship so damaged from the past. It looked like it was starting fresh.....and again they were building their trust. It was clear in Hero. Then Brainiac changed everything and again the new spoilers will determine how this relationship will or will not end and how?

Relationships are fluid and dynamic........nothing is beyond repair....and if there is still LOVE, well , if two people want it to change, it is not impossible. SO .....I will be curious to see if the writers can make it believable why they part.

But one thing is for sure......the LOVE is still there.......in my eyes!

[Clana4Life]

I agree with not overusing "destiny." It does make it sound as if Clark and Lois have no say in the matter. I appreciate that we have had years to see Clana build. We had the opportunity to see Clark fall for Lana and Lana fall for Clark. We've seen their ups and downs. If this is the last season of Smallville, I will say it's too bad SV will not have the opportunity to do this with Clois. Clana has a lot of history. In my opinion, TPTB are leaving the Clana possibility open at the moment per Irma's words. I don't think they will put the final nail on that coffin even after Lana leaves. In other words, I don't think SV will tell you who Clark ends up with - they will leave it open to the viewer's interpretation. This is a new rendition of Clark/Superman, so I don't think anything is written stone despite mythos, cannon, etc. Per the Superman movies, Superman doesn't even end up with Lois by the last movie. And in the new movie, Lois is practically married to someone else.
I think Clark and Lana are still in love and both are thinking about the possibility of trying again. I really enjoyed their interaction in last night's episode. I love the nice, warm conversation they shared at the end. They have a strong connection and can communicate on a level with each other like no other characters on the show.

[BillBoeBaggins]

I said YES, but I wanted to be able to say NO.
Her Barn entrance and the way everything else no longer existed for Clark was telling. Not to mention Lana's giving up Clark is a "sacrifice" on her part, not a choice.

[melissan02]

Can't wait to see that :) Dying to know what her storyline will be like :D:)

It won't just be her storyline, it will be hers with Clark.:D

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Of course they still love each other....I mean they being in love for almost 7 years, the've been trought so much together.....why in the world make us think that Clark and Lana don't love each other???? The question is: Are they still in love and want to start over again? It seems to me that they want to, that Clar's look at Lana at the end of this episode was too reveleating, he is ovbiously happy that she's back, so he wants to try again, and I think Lana does to.

I don't mean to be rude or something(because I'm a peaceful girl, believe me) but I hate the word destiny, really, it's...it's like you're forced to do what you are destined to do, I don't like the fact that Clark and Lois are going to be together because it's called: destiny.....I mean I wanna see them love each other so much, really, the thing is we don't have to always say 'because it's destiny', don't you think it sounds awful to say it, like it's forcing it? Clark and Lois are going to be together, get married and all we know from comic books, but let's just not put the word 'destiny' as answer for their relationship. Clois moments are great!!!
I wasn't referring to destiny in my post, rather, the more important mythos. The story's been written for several decades, it's Lois & Clark.:)

[Alania]

SO .....IMO, I can't say that their relationship, finally after Siren, was a relationship that would of headed to destructiveness or was a relationship so damaged from the past. It looked like it was starting fresh.....and again they were building their trust. It was clear in Hero. Then Brainiac changed everything and again the new spoilers will determine how this relationship will or will not end and how?

Relationships are fluid and dynamic........nothing is beyond repair....and if there is still LOVE, well , if two people want it to change, it is not impossible. SO .....I will be curious to see if the writers can make it believable why they part.

But one thing is for sure......the LOVE is still there.......in my eyes!


I just cut something off of yours so that it doesn't get too long. Awating... that's all we can do, wait and see how it all happens. Believe me, when it comes to awating, cloisers know better than anyone. I also know that, by the end of season 7 they didn't get a chance to try again, but u have to recognize that they had seven years to do that and kept coming and going, like a yo-yo. Blame it on the writers for doing that, blame it on age thing, both too young to handle that kind of relationship, truth is, they didn't overcome their obstacles. Lois showing up in season 4 just made things worse for Clark and Lana cause Clark started connecting to someone else on a different level. But Lois never, for once, was a potential love for Clark, she was just always there whenever he needed, much like the girl next door. Then, the goodbye videotape, which i think was unfair to their seven-year of struggling.
But, i do believe Lana is not willing to let go of Clark, she still loves him the same way, it's Clark that is having mixed feelings and, at some point, he's goint to realize that, what he feels for Lois is getting into him a lot and he can't fight it anymore. If there's someone who's gonna end it for good, without leaving anything on the air, i believe it's him and it's not gonna be easy, will probably be painful and sad to watch (i think even for me, a cloiser), cause Lana is a huge part of his life.
Nevertherless, Lana taught something to Clark that no one did and he's going to carry forever: he does not need to live alone in this world just because of his "alien" condition, he can love and be loved and by that i don't mean friends or parents, a woman's love. I admire Lana for that, she opened that door to Clark and he can let someone else in. Although, once Clark moves on to Lois, she is his last stop, it's her or no one, like in the movie. :):)

[Mickey_Bickey]

Thank you for making a point. History ...is important......it can be a "destructive" thing or a "building" thing. And yes, much in the history of Clark and Lana has been painful. Some pain brought on purposefully and much brought on outside of their control. Did they keep coming back to each other because they loved one another....I would say yes.

Did we see any "love" between them last night? IMO, yes! Now, not to go into other spoilers....but the reason for Lana's exit, her "secret" now, and the "sacrifice" she makes are all a mystery now. SO ...I will wait to give my opinion if that warrants the two of them to "give up" on each other and go their separate ways. And it better be a "good" reason. Because, I don't believe that they have shown that Clark and Lana to have a reason to let go. The two of them have struggled as a couple under extraordinary circumstances........there would be no book to tell them how to handle the situations that strengthen or strain this special relationship. Clark himself , finally, recognized in Siren that , "it wasn't easy to handle the double side of life he leads". But we never got a Good chance to see them recover from that. Lana got infected by Brainiac. So much unfinished between Clark and Lana.

SO .....IMO, I can't say that their relationship, finally after Siren, was a relationship that would of headed to destructiveness or was a relationship so damaged from the past. It looked like it was starting fresh.....and again they were building their trust. It was clear in Hero. Then Brainiac changed everything and again the new spoilers will determine how this relationship will or will not end and how?

Relationships are fluid and dynamic........nothing is beyond repair....and if there is still LOVE, well , if two people want it to change, it is not impossible. SO .....I will be curious to see if the writers can make it believable why they part.

But one thing is for sure......the LOVE is still there.......in my eyes!

I think that there will always be love between them. That won't change. What will change is the kind of love that they share. They have already parted, actually many times on this show, but the most recent was last season.

You cannot change the past, and from what I saw last night Lana is still hiding things from Clark. Nothing in that aspect has changed, and that's basically the main reason why this never worked in the first place. It's the same story, different episode so to speak. I don't see her building trust with him or visa versa at this point, because there are still secrets.

They are no longer a couple in order for them to "part again". IMO it's more of can the writers make it believable why these two individuals would ever be a couple again? I think it's fitting for Lana and Clark to talk about why they can never really be together especially to give all viewers closure on this chapter of SV.

All in all we know they move on. Spoilers indicate that beyond Lana's arc Clark has clearly fallen for Lois...Infamous/Hex, so there's no room for doubt that Clark's feelings change. More the question is can Lana get over him? I don't think she will right away. Hopefully, the writers will prove me wrong, because I wouldn't want to see either of them moping.

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I think there are definitely feelings there still, but in love still---ehh,....remains to be seen. It doesn't surprise me that they're both navigating their way through their feelings right now. It's just that I do think as they navigate over the next 3 episodes, they'll both come to the conclusion that they (as Lana stated herself) weren't meant to be together, and are both alright with that outcome. I look forward to them parting as friends (honest):), and with peace, dignity, and finality. This is what I think we'll see.;)
Enjoy your final 3 episodes. Lana should get a beautiful ending (which KK says she does), so that's good. Over and out;)


I agree here that we will see the last transition for these two individuals. There's a lot of history between these two, and I think it's suitable for them to iron things out not only for the viewing audience but for the characters themselves.

I also agree that it will be nice for all the Lana fans out there to see her go out in this beautiful way that KK has described.

[melissan02]

I agree with not overusing "destiny." It does make it sound as if Clark and Lois have no say in the matter. I appreciate that we have had years to see Clana build. We had the opportunity to see Clark fall for Lana and Lana fall for Clark. We've seen their ups and downs. If this is the last season of Smallville, I will say it's too bad SV will not have the opportunity to do this with Clois. Clana has a lot of history. In my opinion, TPTB are leaving the Clana possibility open at the moment per Irma's words. I don't think they will put the final nail on that coffin even after Lana leaves. In other words, I don't think SV will tell you who Clark ends up with - they will leave it open to the viewer's interpretation. This is a new rendition of Clark/Superman, so I don't think anything is written stone despite mythos, cannon, etc. Per the Superman movies, Superman doesn't even end up with Lois by the last movie. And in the new movie, Lois is practically married to someone else.
I think Clark and Lana are still in love and both are thinking about the possibility of trying again. I really enjoyed their interaction in last night's episode. I love the nice, warm conversation they shared at the end. They have a strong connection and can communicate on a level with each other like no other characters on the show.There is a lot of history between Clark and Lana, but, if there's one thing history teaches us in the love/romance department:D (even Clark), is what we DON'T want in our soulmate, the one we choose over any other. So, I think over the next 3 episodes, Clark and Lana will both come to the conclusion that she stated herself in "Bride", that they weren't meant to end up together, and I think we'll see that they're both alright and at peace with that decision. :)
As far as the movies, well, it's hard for an entire 70 year old mythos to play out properly in a movie. They didn't even scratch the surface of the Lois & Clark love story in any of the movies. Furthermore, the comics came first, and it's definitive that Lois Lane is his chosen one, and soulmate. So, in essence, it is sort of written in stone.:lol: --being so old and all
I do think (and I'm a huge CLOISer-if you couldn't tell) that there are feelings of love still between Clark and Lana, but in love is stretching it a bit IMO. Even if it is the latter, what we'll be seeing over the next 3 episodes is the (in-love) feeling lose it's grip on these two individuals, and transform into friendship love.:) I would expect them to be thinking and considering the possiblity of trying again, I think it would be unbelieveable if they didn't seem to be considering that, but once again, over the next 3 episodes, the discovery (as Saturn Girl said it) will be that they both don't want to try again.
Right now they are navigating their way through their feelings (which is a good idea), but by the time this arc is over in 3 more episodes, that navigation will have them part as friends, peacefully, with dignity, and with finality.
I'm glad Lana will get her beautiful send-off, she most definitely should. So enjoy the next 3 episodes as a Lana and Clana fan.
I'm over and out.;)


Ooops! I just realized that I posted basically the same thing I stated in my last paragraph on up the thread. Sorry, my computer is a little slow on the up-take tonight...and, so am I! hahaha
Oh well, some things are worth repeating I guess.----SOME things, not every thing, SOME! hahahaha

[Kreukie]

No one knows Clark's life after his life with Lois... the comics don't seem to age him anymore then he has been for the past 70 years! They seem to remind in the same timeline all the time and just moves a year forward like every 20 years. At least it seems that way! :lol:

No one knows who he may be with at the very end.... since Clark will out live Lois. It's open to our imagine and comic writers have played with that idea... shown in that comic scan I posted.

To me Smallville sure as heck makes it seem like he chooses Lois because he can't have Lana... When Lana was around, Clark showed no interest in Lois... Lana gone for longest she's ever been gone and finally Clark shows interest, Lana returns and it's "Lois who?", Lana leaves and Clark back to considering Lois. Such love! :lol:

Seriously, if I didn't already know the outcome of Clark and Lois, I would had seriously saw Clois the same way I see Chlark, it's never gonna happen.... just a lot teasing and a whole lot of nothing.

[Alania]

^^^ be careful with your words there, you're not only offending clois, but also chlark. That is not a ship debate thread, that is a clana thread and none of the posts above instigated shipper fight. Clana is part of Clark's life as much as the other two ships. But, like i said before, we can talk again in about three episodes from now, i'm game! :cool:

[celita]

you seem to have a lot of facts about the clana right now

Lets talk once Lana is gone and you can say if Lois will be a second choice.

But of course you will...you will neevr talke off your shipper blinders...as I won't take off mine...so be happy thinking Clana is the best and Clois will be second more power to you

Thank god in my world Clois is not only the last, its the best. And the difference is....I have back up....in all different media for 70 years. And of couser if a broken record cause it reminds something that would never happen....

If some panties couldn't destroy it even less the fixation of SV witters to make Lana good and Perfect while they make Clark again a...BDA (Sorry Valerie I don't use this word but sadly that's what we are heading to on these epsidoes just for the sake of Lana).

Keep telling yourself that, you still have 3 more episodes, we have a lifetime....70 yeras more and for us of course we won't be a second choice.

For others? well lets say you don't ahve other choice that think THAT....and that's all you'll have and be left with, "the proud that Lois was the second choice"...I hope that maens something among your circle of Clana fans.........for the rest of the world....we have a different view....thankfully

[Mickey_Bickey]

No one knows Clark's life after his life with Lois... the comics don't seem to age him anymore then he has been for the past 70 years! They seem to remind in the same timeline all the time and just moves a year forward like every 20 years. At least it seems that way! :lol:

I believe there are some stories written beyond Lois, and Clark/Superman never found anyone he could love like that again. He could never find another woman like Lois Lane. She certainly is one of a kind.


No one knows who he may be with at the very end.... since Clark will out live Lois. It's open to our imagine and comic writers have played with that idea... shown in that comic scan I posted.

Again, there's no other woman as exciting as Lois Lane to match up with Superman, so what would be the point past, present or future?:lol:


To me Smallville sure as heck makes it seem like he chooses Lois because he can't have Lana... When Lana was around, Clark showed no interest in Lois... Lana gone for longest she's ever been gone and finally Clark shows interest, Lana returns and it's "Lois who?", Lana leaves and Clark back to considering Lois. Such love! :lol:

Not true actually. Remember how bowled over in Hydro he was when he kissed Lois? I never remember ever seeing such a reaction from any other woman that Clark kissed before or after that. That look on Clark's face was priceless! Oh, and then there was the time on Red K in Crimson where he couldn't wait to tell Lois who he really was and show her everything he could do. I believe he never did that with Lana, because the desire wasn't there. Oh, and he couldn't take his eyes off Lois at the beach in Aqua either (Lana who?:lol:} Of course who can blame the guy? He ogled her again in Exposed and couldn't take his eyes off her or her let's just say assets! He was so embarressed when he knew she saw him watching her! He was jealous of both AC and Oliver. Oh, he was jealous of Sebastian this season too! Lois just captures his attention and keeps him on his toes in the comics, movies and yes here in SV! So entertaining! So much fun!



Seriously, if I didn't already know the outcome of Clark and Lois, I would had seriously saw Clois the same way I see Chlark, it's never gonna happen.... just a lot teasing and a whole lot of nothing.

It's that teasing that makes for the most interesting and long lasting couples. Examples would be Rhett Butler and Scarlett O'Hara, Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy, and Harry and Sally just to name a few. Those are the types of relationships I love to watch! They're never boring!

After watching not only this past season where it's been clearly demonstrated time and again that they have feelings for each other, but also in past seasons where they get under each other's skin I would absolutely have to say that I've seen their chemistry from the getgo! Oh, that chemistry! ED is the best Lois ever, and TW is the best Clark Kent! They're so exciting to watch. They light up the screen with their magic. Too bad that the writers didn't write Clark and Lana's relationship the same way. It's really a shame that their whole relationship was filled with such angst and drama. It made it rather boring for me to watch.:\

It would have been so much more exciting if they had written Clana with any passion and sparks flying, etc. What an injustice for Clark and Lana the last seven seasons. Well, hopefully we'll see some excitement in Lana's last 3 episodes of Smallville. It would be nice for Clana to go out with a bang. I'll hold out hope for that.

[melissan02]

Seriously, if I didn't already know the outcome of Clark and Lois, I would had seriously saw Clois the same way I see Chlark, it's never gonna happen.... just a lot teasing and a whole lot of nothing.
Respectfully disagree here, if you've watched this season BEFORE Lana showed up, then you would clearly see that Clois IS happening. If you'll stick around post-Lana for the rest of the season, then you'll see that Clois will happen.:)

Lois Lane is not a second choice or chance, she's THE choice....THE one, chosen by Clark in the end.

lol, :lol:and I said I was over and out:o...this time I mean it for real....off to a CLOIS thread. Ya'll enjoy now, and keep watching (the rest of the ENTIRE season), it's sure to be eye opening.;)

[Clana4Life]

This is the great thing about Clana I think. It's a new story. We got to go along for the ride. Some people didn't like the ride, some did, but at least it was a ride. It's almost hard to enjoy Clois or be excited about it sometimes, not because I don't like Clois, but because I keep hearing about how it's the end-game before it can even really begin. I keep hearing that it's destiny and it has to happen. I've never encountered a story/show/movie like this. Because if this is the case, to me it doesn't seem like it leaves much to the imagination. I know what cannon and mythos and comics say. There are variations. Clois doesn't get together in the C. Reeves movies. At least they don't stay together. They aren't together in Routh's version at the moment. I'd just like to enjoy SV's rendition of Clois - and see where it goes. If they break-up, fine. If they break up, date other people and get back together, that's good, too. Just make it original - a new spin. If the movies aren't bound by mythos/cannon/comics, why would SV, a tv-show, have to be bound by it? Would Clois fans be upset if Clois do not get together by series's end? Would Clois and/or Clana fans be upet if both Lois and Lana are in the season finale and Clark seems equally devoted to and in love with both and TPTB leave it open -- Clark goes off to his training and....you the fan write the ending. This wouldn't upset me. First because it's new, it's unexpected, it's open. I would feel like SV gave me an original story, yes rooted a bit in mythos, but a new rendition. On a side note, KK said she'd be open to coming back for the series finale (and a few more eps if she gets some good material). So I just don't know. I'm keeping an open mind about it. I actually want to be surprised. And I think the producers/writers really like Clana -- they've given us 7 seasons where it's been the pivotal story. I also think they like Clois too and are having fun with this story. As a writer/producer (not a fan), what do you do when you like both ships and you also want to please all of the fans and keep the ratings up....Just something to think about. I welcome your thoughts, and please consider the perspective of the writer/producer, not us die-hard shipper fans. Thanks! :)

[paolinki25]

The thing about Lana is that she is part of Clark's past. Plain and simple. I kindly, warmly remember my first love, but that doesn't mean I will think about him forever as the one "I couldn't have" and then sabotage every freaking relationship after that. It's not healthy. Clark has a way bigger destiny than remembering Lana 24/7. Even when he marries Lois, his priority has always been saving those in need. Lois understand this and although it's hard for her, she has managed to accept it and see it as something that's part of their lives as husband and wife. The problem with this show is that they insisted on giving Lana this humongous importance that she has never had and wasn't supposed to have, which completely fractured the Clana relationship forever, imo.

I yet have to see the upcoming episodes, but I don't like the fact that Lana has this weird power to change Clark's perspective the minute she's in the room. It's like Clark goes back 5 years in time emotionally every time she's near.

[melissan02]

This is the great thing about Clana I think. It's a new story. We got to go along for the ride. Some people didn't like the ride, some did, but at least it was a ride. It's almost hard to enjoy Clois or be excited about it sometimes, not because I don't like Clois, but because I keep hearing about how it's the end-game before it can even really begin. I keep hearing that it's destiny and it has to happen. I've never encountered a story/show/movie like this. Because if this is the case, to me it doesn't seem like it leaves much to the imagination. I know what cannon and mythos and comics say. There are variations. Clois doesn't get together in the C. Reeves movies. At least they don't stay together. They aren't together in Routh's version at the moment. I'd just like to enjoy SV's rendition of Clois - and see where it goes. If they break-up, fine. If they break up, date other people and get back together, that's good, too. Just make it original - a new spin. If the movies aren't bound by mythos/cannon/comics, why would SV, a tv-show, have to be bound by it? Would Clois fans be upset if Clois do not get together by series's end? Would Clois and/or Clana fans be upet if both Lois and Lana are in the season finale and Clark seems equally devoted to and in love with both and TPTB leave it open -- Clark goes off to his training and....you the fan write the ending. This wouldn't upset me. First because it's new, it's unexpected, it's open. I would feel like SV gave me an original story, yes rooted a bit in mythos, but a new rendition. On a side note, KK said she'd be open to coming back for the series finale (and a few more eps if she gets some good material). So I just don't know. I'm keeping an open mind about it. I actually want to be surprised. And I think the producers/writers really like Clana -- they've given us 7 seasons where it's been the pivotal story. I also think they like Clois too and are having fun with this story. As a writer/producer (not a fan), what do you do when you like both ships and you also want to please all of the fans and keep the ratings up....Just something to think about. I welcome your thoughts, and please consider the perspective of the writer/producer, not us die-hard shipper fans. Thanks! :)
We are actually seeing more variation on SV with the CLOIS romance than Clana IMO. IF you've been watching pre-Lana arc, Lois is falling for Clark (whereas original mythos has her falling for Superman)---yes, I realize that in SV Clark is not Superman, but it's still their own spin, "new rendition" as you said, to their story.;) Heck, even having Lois in SV is a "new rendition"/spin to the story, and a very pleasant, smart one I might add.;)
As far as Clana, there is nothing "new" or different as to how their romance has or will play out. Sure, we've gotten to see more of how it's been played out on SV, but in the comics and/or movies, Lana is a crush/teen romance that Clark dates and infatuates about, but in the end, he doesn't choose her. In fact, in the comics and movies, there is MUCH less angst than has been seen on SV, so , if you want to call that "new rendition" then I guess you could lay claim to that...not sure I'd want to, but?:\

If Lois Lane hadn't been brought on SV, then I could certainly see how and why the whole Clana romance would be "the thing", but SV chose to bring in Lois Lane, and now it's only fitting for the story to take that canon route. Would you agree?:)

As far as leaving things open for Clark to be in love with two women by the end....that would make Clark, nope scratch that, SUPERMAN look pathetic IMO. I wouldn't want that for such an important, timeless super-hero or legend.
Would you?
I'm first and foremost a fan of Superman, secondly a fan of the mythos, and Lois Lane is the chosen love of his life that IS that mythos. ;)

[Mickey_Bickey]

This is the great thing about Clana I think. It's a new story. We got to go along for the ride. Some people didn't like the ride, some did, but at least it was a ride. It's almost hard to enjoy Clois or be excited about it sometimes, not because I don't like Clois, but because I keep hearing about how it's the end-game before it can even really begin. I keep hearing that it's destiny and it has to happen. I've never encountered a story/show/movie like this. Because if this is the case, to me it doesn't seem like it leaves much to the imagination. I know what cannon and mythos and comics say. There are variations. Clois doesn't get together in the C. Reeves movies. At least they don't stay together. They aren't together in Routh's version at the moment. I'd just like to enjoy SV's rendition of Clois - and see where it goes. If they break-up, fine. If they break up, date other people and get back together, that's good, too. Just make it original - a new spin. If the movies aren't bound by mythos/cannon/comics, why would SV, a tv-show, have to be bound by it? Would Clois fans be upset if Clois do not get together by series's end? Would Clois and/or Clana fans be upet if both Lois and Lana are in the season finale and Clark seems equally devoted to and in love with both and TPTB leave it open -- Clark goes off to his training and....you the fan write the ending. This wouldn't upset me. First because it's new, it's unexpected, it's open. I would feel like SV gave me an original story, yes rooted a bit in mythos, but a new rendition. On a side note, KK said she'd be open to coming back for the series finale (and a few more eps if she gets some good material). So I just don't know. I'm keeping an open mind about it. I actually want to be surprised. And I think the producers/writers really like Clana -- they've given us 7 seasons where it's been the pivotal story. I also think they like Clois too and are having fun with this story. As a writer/producer (not a fan), what do you do when you like both ships and you also want to please all of the fans and keep the ratings up....Just something to think about. I welcome your thoughts, and please consider the perspective of the writer/producer, not us die-hard shipper fans. Thanks! :)

Well, I guess it could also be said that Clark becoming Superman is the end game as well, but that hasn't stopped me from enjoying his character. If anything, it makes it more interesting to me. That's the way I've approached Lois and Clark's relationship. Although we will not get to see as much of Clois as we did Clana, I think it's been good so far.

Good post though!:) Unfortunately, the writers can't make everybody happy, but hopefully they'll respect all the characters with good storylines and dialogue.

[Clana4Life]

Well, I guess it could also be said that Clark becoming Superman is the end game as well, but that hasn't stopped me from enjoying his character. If anything, it makes it more interesting to me. That's the way I've approached Lois and Clark's relationship. Although we will not get to see as much of Clois as we did Clana, I think it's been good so far.

Good post though!:) Unfortunately, the writers can't make everybody happy, but hopefully they'll respect all the characters with good storylines and dialogue.

Thanks for your posts Melissa and Mickey_Bickey. You know, I guess Superman is the end game, but since I know that he will never be Superman on this show, that leaves something to the imagination. That's why I want to keep an open mind when it comes to Clana and Clois. From my understanding, Lana's teenage years and young adult years are never really discussed in the comics. It's kind of glossed over. SV did a great thing in that they created this whole back story for her and Clark. And Melissa, I'm glad you mentioned how they did do a new spin with Lois falling for Clark (but I think this also in a version of one of the comics). Surprise us with Clois. If Lois gets a new boyfriend next season, then that's a surprise - a wrench in the scenario. I'm not a comic book reader. I've only see the Superman movies and it was new and different. So I want to allow SV to do the same thing. I don't want to lock them in to any previous mythos, cannon, etc.

Mickey_Bickey, you are definitely right, the writers cannot please everyone happy. I remember the Dawson Creek series finale. Joey/Dawson and Joey/Pacey were the two biggest ships and everyone wanted their couple to end up together. Shippers on both sides were even picketing outside the studio for their fav couple! :) In the end the writers tried to satisfy both ships. I was wondering if TPTB would try to do this. I'm sure they have tried to respect all of the characters with good storylines and dialogue. I doubt everyone would agree that they've accomplished that. Ratings still reign as king. So I can see how pleasing as many viewers as possible (from all ships) would be a top priority on their list. It'll be interesting to see what happens. For me it's more interesting to see it from the perspective of "will Clois get together or won't they", or "will Clark ultimately realize his true love is Lana or Lois". Sometimes not knowing is the most fun, too! :) And again, my background for Superman comes from the movies and tv shows (L&C The New Adventure & Superboy (the version with Lana), in all three cases, the writers did something different. Only in one of them (L&C) was Clois endgame. I was pleased with all versions.

Thanks again for the great posts.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Thanks for your posts Melissa and Mickey_Bickey. You know, I guess Superman is the end game, but since I know that he will never be Superman on this show, that leaves something to the imagination. That's why I want to keep an open mind when it comes to Clana and Clois. From my understanding, Lana's teenage years and young adult years are never really discussed in the comics. It's kind of glossed over. SV did a great thing in that they created this whole back story for her and Clark. And Melissa, I'm glad you mentioned how they did do a new spin with Lois falling for Clark (but I think this also in a version of one of the comics). Surprise us with Clois. If Lois gets a new boyfriend next season, then that's a surprise - a wrench in the scenario. I'm not a comic book reader. I've only see the Superman movies and it was new and different. So I want to allow SV to do the same thing. I don't want to lock them in to any previous mythos, cannon, etc.

Mickey_Bickey, you are definitely right, the writers cannot please everyone happy. I remember the Dawson Creek series finale. Joey/Dawson and Joey/Pacey were the two biggest ships and everyone wanted their couple to end up together. Shippers on both sides were even picketing outside the studio for their fav couple! :) In the end the writers tried to satisfy both ships. I was wondering if TPTB would try to do this. I'm sure they have tried to respect all of the characters with good storylines and dialogue. I doubt everyone would agree that they've accomplished that. Ratings still reign as king. So I can see how pleasing as many viewers as possible (from all ships) would be a top priority on their list. It'll be interesting to see what happens. For me it's more interesting to see it from the perspective of "will Clois get together or won't they", or "will Clark ultimately realize his true love is Lana or Lois". Sometimes not knowing is the most fun, too! :) And again, my background for Superman comes from the movies and tv shows (L&C The New Adventure & Superboy (the version with Lana), in all three cases, the writers did something different. Only in one of them (L&C) was Clois endgame. I was pleased with all versions.

Thanks again for the great posts.

I agree it's all about the journey. There's something in every episode for everyone. I don't see how they could make Clana, Clois and Chlark ships happy all at the same time. I certainly hope that there's a definitive end either this season or hopefully next!

I hope the writers have the guts to write a proper ending without comprimising Clark. That's the end game for me, no matter what the results!

Thank you for your great posts. You're very nice!:)

[doodie8808]

im so glad i come to this site because even though there are difference of opinions you guys are very understandng of peoples feelings! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! (sometimes people forget this is just a tv show like for real, its not that serious to bash actors)I am a cloiser at heart since i saw smallville because i love ed and tom's chermisty. But i saw the clana scenes online and i was still annoyed at her because i just don't see what others see about her and thats ok cause the same can be said for lois(opinion of who you can relate too, I RELATE TO LOIS BECAUSE IM FROM NEW ORLEANS AND FIESTYNESS, JOKING, AND BLUNTESS IS APART Of everyDAY LIFE. SWEET PEOPLE GET ****ED OVER, PLUS I HAVE ARMY ROOTS WITH MY DAD BUT HE IS GREAT)but i saw the adultness of them and i personally saw what is leading toward good friendship. Lana was his first love so sometimes its hard to get over but i believe in her final eppy they will realize that and clark will have a better understanding of his wants! I don't believe that lois will be second choice but i think he will be afaird of her because she is not what he is used too in his choice of women! i feel that most final choices are realization of what you were always looking for! :)

[Kid Collins]

To me Smallville sure as heck makes it seem like he chooses Lois because he can't have Lana... When Lana was around, Clark showed no interest in Lois... Lana gone for longest she's ever been gone and finally Clark shows interest, Lana returns and it's "Lois who?", Lana leaves and Clark back to considering Lois. Such love! :lol:



:lol:

What you said does follow SV's pattern. The only time Clark and Lois spent a lot of screentime together was when Clark wasn't with Lana. S4 when Lana was with Jason, S6 when Lana was with Lex and the latter part of S7 when KK didn't come back because she was filming Streetfighter. But when Clana were together in those seasons, Clark and Lois screentime was totally decreased.






Not true actually. Remember how bowled over in Hydro he was when he kissed Lois? I never remember ever seeing such a reaction from any other woman that Clark kissed before or after that.

That is definitely your opinion. I watched that Hydro kiss and I laughed more than anything else. And I can name you Clana kiss scenes with Clark looking weak in the knees afterwards. Plenty of those.




Oh, and then there was the time on Red K in Crimson where he couldn't wait to tell Lois who he really was and show her everything he could do. I believe he never did that with Lana, because the desire wasn't there.

In Red he told Lana he was going to tell her everything but he got distracted and forgot to tell her because of their incredibly mind blowing steamy kiss at the Talon. But Kal was definitely planning on telling Lana.

He also planned to tell her to stop Lana from going to Paris in Forsaken but of course something happened and he changed his mind.

He also told her in Reckoning and showed her his powers. But of course something happened and he turned by the time to bring Lana back to life.

And in just drives home the fact that in Crimson even though he madeout with Lois and was about to get lucky, he still dumped her to go crash Lana's engagement party.

AND dumped her again when she tried that future crap on him when he kidnapped Lana to propose to her at the Loft. That's twice dumped by Clark.



Oh, and he couldn't take his eyes off Lois at the beach in Aqua either (Lana who?:lol:} Of course who can blame the guy? He ogled her again in Exposed and couldn't take his eyes off her or her let's just say assets!

That's your opinion. I never saw Clark jealous of any of Lois' boyfriends before. OTH watch Clark's face throughout the seasons when he watched Lana with any of her ex-boyfriends. You don't need to "interpret" that he was jealous. It was very very obvious.

[celita]

Like its YOUR opinion that Clois will be cause Clana couldn't be tiogether. Funny how Clana its a fact and Clark was OBVIOUSLY jeloas of Lan's LI but Clark's any kind jelousy toward any Lois LI its subjective and only a Poster opinion.

I am going to borrow someon methaphor (sp?) that it was said on the Chlois forums (don't remember exactly who)

If you see a square and most of the people see a circle, doesn't it mean everybody else are wrong?

For someone that complians a lot about double staandars you seem to use them a lot

[tmack09]

Oh Kid Collins gave very nice examples to counter-act the other posters Clois examples. Thats what I like to see among two opposing views...EXAMPLES to support your claim..good job guys very good job!

Alright as for my opinion when it comes to this thread..clana-like thread, which I LOOOVE..."Do they still love each other" right now, of course they do...things haven't been resolved, at least not for Lana because her "good-bye video" seemed to have been a cover for something else (im just saying)...

so I think Lana did what she had to do to leave him but was forced and didn't leave him on her own time....Clark on the other hand was moving on as a "smart man" would do...(out of sight out of mind..kinda) but when Lana returns and shes all...long hugs and deep stares a "loving man" (who still continues to keep pictures around the house of the woman his heart went to)...starts to go right back in the pattern he did before she left!

I think its funny that for any Clana point to be made a person from a different ship has to come through and say "yea I see it...and im a cloiser or Chlarker" hahaha :lol:

Anyway thats my thought on the matter...don't get me wrong, the love may not be as PASSIONATE as it was in previous seasons but their love is slowly moving to a more profound level...where their friendship is simply unshakable. Where Lana will come to the realization too that she has a "destiny all of her own" in other words both she and Clark will move on to do great things...and it may not end with little baby Clarks and little baby Lana's running around the barn...setting things on fire with heat vision and knocking people out with tiny shovels (sry, I heart Lana but I couldn't resist the shovel comment) lol...

[michelleMedenilla]

They still Love each other....without a doubt..

The Clana relationship is just like this saying...

"It's not the destination that matters, it's the journey that counts."

Even if they don't end up together, what matters is that they've shared a lot of experiences together, whether it may be good or bad..

[Demien]

NoNoNoNoNoNo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NoNoNo!!!!!

[Kyogre]

The CLANA was amazing

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Do you think that Clana will be back on after last nights episode or not?
Personally I think that the two really love each other I'm a die hard Clana fan so........:\

yes smallville is about CLANA not about Lois & Chloe who dont belong at all in smallville :p

[Mickey_Bickey]

:lol:

What you said does follow SV's pattern. The only time Clark and Lois spent a lot of screentime together was when Clark wasn't with Lana. S4 when Lana was with Jason, S6 when Lana was with Lex and the latter part of S7 when KK didn't come back because she was filming Streetfighter. But when Clana were together in those seasons, Clark and Lois screentime was totally decreased.


They're so electric! They don't need a lot of screen time for viewers to get the picture. They're very captivating in deed! Never a dull moment between them.:)





That is definitely your opinion. I watched that Hydro kiss and I laughed more than anything else. And I can name you Clana kiss scenes with Clark looking weak in the knees afterwards. Plenty of those.

I'm speaking of the look after he ripped off his mask. It was pure exhiliration, something he had never experienced before. It was very obvious that Tom Welling, who directed that show, wanted the entire audience to know that Clark Kent had never experienced anything like it. Oh, plus he kept kissing her even when she stopped. He loved it!:)





In Red he told Lana he was going to tell her everything but he got distracted and forgot to tell her because of their incredibly mind blowing steamy kiss at the Talon. But Kal was definitely planning on telling Lana.

He also planned to tell her to stop Lana from going to Paris in Forsaken but of course something happened and he changed his mind.

He also told her in Reckoning and showed her his powers. But of course something happened and he turned by the time to bring Lana back to life.

And in just drives home the fact that in Crimson even though he madeout with Lois and was about to get lucky, he still dumped her to go crash Lana's engagement party.

AND dumped her again when she tried that future crap on him when he kidnapped Lana to propose to her at the Loft. That's twice dumped by Clark.

There's a theme here, "he was going to tell her, but"......

See with Lois, after a very steamy hot kiss in the elevator and of course in the office where he couldn't take his hands off her, he didn't wait. He wanted her to know that he was better than Oliver! Desperately wanting her to be impressed with him so she would see him than more than just "a dorky farm boy". Too cute! Showing off to capture the girl! It's so classic.:D





That's your opinion. I never saw Clark jealous of any of Lois' boyfriends before. OTH watch Clark's face throughout the seasons when he watched Lana with any of her ex-boyfriends. You don't need to "interpret" that he was jealous. It was very very obvious.

That's okay. The writers did a good job of writing that in subtle ways that the viewing audience could pick up on. If you didn't then I can't change your opinon, but I know that deep down inside Clark has always been attracted to Lois, so it's only natural he'd be jealous. He even said so much when AC was talking at the Talon. "Is that just a pick up line you use for the girls?" The only girl AC was trying to pick up was Lois!:lol:

I didn't see a lot of jealousy from Clark when Lana was with her boyfriends. It was more like mopey, drippy, insecure boy with a broken heart most times, which got to boring to watch IMO. Unfortunately, Clark became more depressed and almost in a state of "I give up".

Now with Lois' beaus, he was fiesty, firey, sarcastic and willing to "challenge" all her love interests. Nothing more entertaining than Clark when he's being manly! I love how Supermanlike he becomes around Lois.

If only he were half the man with Lana that he is with Lois I think they would have stood a chance.:(

[paolinki25]

yes smallville is about CLANA not about Lois & Chloe who dont belong at all in smallville :p

Smallville is not about Clana, Clois, Chlark or Brangelina. It's about Clark Kent and the future iconic figure he becomes. Period. People who are watching because of the love story between Clark and Lana can't be fans of the actual character, because Clark Kent's life cannot and should not be about the women he dates. For that, I'd recommend watching Gossip Girl or One Tree Hill.

I like Lois; however, I don't expect the show to focus only on the relationship between Clark and her, Lois is (as well as Lana was) a part of Clark's journey. That's it.

[Marissa]

No. I think they both know they are better off this way.

[dreamsofnever]

This is the great thing about Clana I think. It's a new story. We got to go along for the ride. Some people didn't like the ride, some did, but at least it was a ride. It's almost hard to enjoy Clois or be excited about it sometimes, not because I don't like Clois, but because I keep hearing about how it's the end-game before it can even really begin. I keep hearing that it's destiny and it has to happen. I've never encountered a story/show/movie like this. Because if this is the case, to me it doesn't seem like it leaves much to the imagination. I know what cannon and mythos and comics say. There are variations. Clois doesn't get together in the C. Reeves movies. At least they don't stay together. They aren't together in Routh's version at the moment. I'd just like to enjoy SV's rendition of Clois - and see where it goes. If they break-up, fine. If they break up, date other people and get back together, that's good, too. Just make it original - a new spin. If the movies aren't bound by mythos/cannon/comics, why would SV, a tv-show, have to be bound by it? Would Clois fans be upset if Clois do not get together by series's end? Would Clois and/or Clana fans be upet if both Lois and Lana are in the season finale and Clark seems equally devoted to and in love with both and TPTB leave it open -- Clark goes off to his training and....you the fan write the ending. This wouldn't upset me. First because it's new, it's unexpected, it's open. I would feel like SV gave me an original story, yes rooted a bit in mythos, but a new rendition. On a side note, KK said she'd be open to coming back for the series finale (and a few more eps if she gets some good material). So I just don't know. I'm keeping an open mind about it. I actually want to be surprised. And I think the producers/writers really like Clana -- they've given us 7 seasons where it's been the pivotal story. I also think they like Clois too and are having fun with this story. As a writer/producer (not a fan), what do you do when you like both ships and you also want to please all of the fans and keep the ratings up....Just something to think about. I welcome your thoughts, and please consider the perspective of the writer/producer, not us die-hard shipper fans. Thanks! :)

You make some good points, Clana4Life. I am definitely a Cloiser, but I wouldn't be opposed to them ending it without making it clear who he ends up with.

They did something similar on Buffy. If we look at Angel as her Lana, Spike as her Lois, and Xander as her Chloe... in the last two episodes, Angel returned briefly and it was clear there were still feelings and they kissed and she said something about being cookie dough that wasn't quite baked yet, so basically insinuating that they might end up together in the end, but she still had some personal growing of her own to do.

Then she went and spent the last night before the big battle with Spike. And at the end, Spike died and Xander's fiancee also died, so those two could have gotten together in the future, if the right fanfic writer imagined it.

(*just want to say that I'm not overtly saying Clana is like Buffy and Angel, or anything along those lines. Just saying that each of those people had a similar history/place in life as Clark's female leads. Personally, I hated Spike/Buffy, so to compare it to Clois is definitely not drawing overall parallels to all of the ships)

But the ultimate ending of the story wasn't about who she ended up with romantically, but what she accomplished and the fact that her destiny was wide-open. It wasn't written in stone anymore.

So, it might be interesting to have something similar with Clark, like you said. Because ultimately, the show isn't supposed to be about his romances but about his journey to becoming a hero.

Anyways, great post, Clana4Life. We'll just have to see where they take it all from here!

[Mickey_Bickey]

im so glad i come to this site because even though there are difference of opinions you guys are very understandng of peoples feelings! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! (sometimes people forget this is just a tv show like for real, its not that serious to bash actors)I am a cloiser at heart since i saw smallville because i love ed and tom's chermisty. But i saw the clana scenes online and i was still annoyed at her because i just don't see what others see about her and thats ok cause the same can be said for lois(opinion of who you can relate too, I RELATE TO LOIS BECAUSE IM FROM NEW ORLEANS AND FIESTYNESS, JOKING, AND BLUNTESS IS APART Of everyDAY LIFE. SWEET PEOPLE GET ****ED OVER, PLUS I HAVE ARMY ROOTS WITH MY DAD BUT HE IS GREAT)but i saw the adultness of them and i personally saw what is leading toward good friendship. Lana was his first love so sometimes its hard to get over but i believe in her final eppy they will realize that and clark will have a better understanding of his wants! I don't believe that lois will be second choice but i think he will be afaird of her because she is not what he is used too in his choice of women! i feel that most final choices are realization of what you were always looking for! :)


You raise some good points. I agree that most people will indentify with a certain character.

The more I thought about it, the more I compare Clana to Scarlett O'Hara and Ashley Wilkes in Gone With The Wind. Ahsley is weak, can't make up his mind half the time, leads Scarlett on, keeps her in his back pocket, marries another woman all the while in love with Scarlett but knows that she'd be too much of a challenge for him. This is exactly what Clana is all about. Clark is Scarlett pining over Lana who is Ashley Wilkes in this equasion. Boring IMO, but still there were those that liked the two of them better because they'd rather have a mushy, weak, angst filled relationship that made you weep.

I prefer the more exciting Rhett Butler and Scarlett O'Hara pairing which of course would be more like the Lois and Clark relationship. Give me the banter and chemistry any day.

At the end of the movie Scarlett realizes she never really loved Ashley at all. It was the idea of not being able to have him and that she had convinced herself that she was in love with him. She has an epiphany. All the while it was actually Rhett she loved. She desperately tried to convince Rhett she loved him all those years that she had pined for Ashley. She tore at him and cried, but he turned and gave the most famous line of a movie, "Frankly my dear I don't give a dam" and walked away.

Clark can have Lana right now. The choice is his, just like it was for Scarlett at the end of Gone With The Wind. She could have had Ashley, because his wife had died, and she could be with him finally.

What will Clark do? Lana is there for the taking right now. She is not tied down to anyone. Will Clark decide that she's the love of his life, or will he have an epiphany like Scarlett?

[Alania]

I'm just curious...if any of the Clois fans...DIDN'T KNOW that Clark and Lois were going to end up together in the end...would you STILL some how find this unseen underlying passionate chemistry that was sooooo subtle almost invisible until season 8 between the two in Smallville? Like honestly? :p

That's impossible to answer, cause it's always going to be a biased answer. It gets even more difficult to answer when you separate from the mythos. Ask the creator of Superman why Lois is the chosen one, not spirit-elevated shippers such as you and me. Lana is the first and the one that doesn't work out. Period. IMO, Lois completes Clark's character, she fills in the missing spots whereas Lana just adds something else to what he's already got. A relationship between two people who does not add anything different to eachother's character is bound to fail.
But, this clana-clois debate has been going on for more than a page here and i can see the mods interfering at any time, since this is a clana thread, not a Clana-Clois discussion. In my pov, it's a space for your ship only, not to compare with Clois or Cless or Lollie or Chlark or Brangelina. :cool:

[Mickey_Bickey]

:lol:
Here is an example of a fan "reading into" a scene hahaha...Clana-lovers are notorious for doing it also...but I wanted to point this one out since its from a non Clana fan and its here in my face!
I'm just curious...if any of the Clois fans...DIDN'T KNOW that Clark and Lois were going to end up together in the end...would you STILL some how find this unseen underlying passionate chemistry that was sooooo subtle almost invisible until season 8 between the two in Smallville? Like honestly? :p

I deleted a lot of your post here, because these are the only things I would like to comment on back to you. In your post #164 you clearly suggest that you are a Clana fan:
Alright as for my opinion when it comes to this thread..clana-like thread, which I LOOOVE..."Do they still love each other" right now, of course they do...things haven't been resolved, at least not for Lana because her "good-bye video" seemed to have been a cover for something else (im just saying)...

Please read my post comparing Clana to Ashley Wilkes and Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With The Wind.

That should explain why I honestly could see chemistry between Clark and Lois from their initial meeting in Crusade. I enjoy those types of relationships with "silly banter" much more than boring melodramatic types. More examples of relationships I enjoy but are not like Clana are Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice), Rose and Jack (Titanic), Maureen O'Hara and John Wayne in the Quiet Man.

I don't enjoy watching the types of relationships that revolve around angst, despair and desperation. It's boring IMO, and I put the Clana relationship in that boat. You obviously don't like the firey, fiesty types of romantic relationships like the ones I enjoy watching.

So, I could completely understand why you wouldn't see anything between Lois and Clark. That's fine. It's probably the same reason why I don't see much passion or anything that would be long lasting with Clana.

[Clana4Life]

You make some good points, Clana4Life. I am definitely a Cloiser, but I wouldn't be opposed to them ending it without making it clear who he ends up with.

They did something similar on Buffy. If we look at Angel as her Lana, Spike as her Lois, and Xander as her Chloe... in the last two episodes, Angel returned briefly and it was clear there were still feelings and they kissed and she said something about being cookie dough that wasn't quite baked yet, so basically insinuating that they might end up together in the end, but she still had some personal growing of her own to do.

Then she went and spent the last night before the big battle with Spike. And at the end, Spike died and Xander's fiancee also died, so those two could have gotten together in the future, if the right fanfic writer imagined it.

(*just want to say that I'm not overtly saying Clana is like Buffy and Angel, or anything along those lines. Just saying that each of those people had a similar history/place in life as Clark's female leads. Personally, I hated Spike/Buffy, so to compare it to Clois is definitely not drawing overall parallels to all of the ships)

But the ultimate ending of the story wasn't about who she ended up with romantically, but what she accomplished and the fact that her destiny was wide-open. It wasn't written in stone anymore.

So, it might be interesting to have something similar with Clark, like you said. Because ultimately, the show isn't supposed to be about his romances but about his journey to becoming a hero.

Anyways, great post, Clana4Life. We'll just have to see where they take it all form here!

Mickey_Bickey and DreamsofNever, thank you for your responses. I really like my thread, so I hope it doesn't get canned. :)
Mickey, I don't know if the writers are even trying to appeal to Chlark anymore, since they married Chloe off to Jimmy. I'm a Chlavis fan myself, but oh well, what can I say....:\ Up until this moment, there's still a chance for Clana - until they permanently end it. I don't know that they will and of course there's a chance for Clois. So a good writer will throw bait to keep as many ships watching as possible. I suspect that's what we'll get. I suspect that's what I, a Clana fan, am getting right now. But it is about the journey and just enjoying it moment to moment, so I don't get up in arms.

DreamsnofNever, that was a good analogy. I used to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I really wish the writers would leave it open. It just leaves so much to the imagination. I would never want anyone to really tell me how a book I'm reading ends. Sure from the standpoint of most comics (not all) Clark & Lois get together. From the standpoint of movies/tv shows, they don't. So for me it's like, "will they, won't they." It's open. I prefer it that way. SV has deviated SO much from past interpretations, mythos, stories etc., that anything could happen. Zod could be Clark's biological father. I don't really think that, but you get my point. I'm interested in seeing how the series will wrap up. For me, it's great to watch this show as if I'd never heard of Superman, Lana, Lois, etc. Watching it like a newbie has it perks. You'll never hear me say, It has to happen because etc., etc., etc., said so." Anything can happen. I like feeling this way about a show.

Anyway, I named the thread Clana-Revised because I felt like we were seeing a new Clana, more mature, lest angsty than what we've seen sometimes in the past. The poll was added a little later by Mod-member Wicked Jenn, who's also added some great posts on this thread. So, I think were are good as long as shippers don't argue/fight and make it personal. There have been some great posts, I'd like to keep reading them.

[kentfamily]

I thought this episode was better than Bride. Yes Clana are becoming mature adults and moving onward towards a loving and caring friendship eventhough down deep inside they still love each other in a special way. But then again, you can love your friends and have respect for each other, even if the relationship moves on....Nothing wrong with Clana.
It was a very good episode. ;)

[umm]

I thought this episode was better than Bride. Yes Clana are becoming mature adults and moving onward towards a loving and caring friendship eventhough down deep inside they still love each other in a special way. But then again, you can love your friends and have respect for each other, even if the relationship moves on....Nothing wrong with Clana.
It was a very good episode. ;)


Yes it was, wery good! And you are right there is nothing wrong with Clana as a relationship purely based on friendship, however Clark is a mindless, spineless twit when it comes to Lana, so thank god she will only be in Smallville for another three episodes! Better safe than sorry, for the thousend thime!

[WickedJenn]

Anyway, I named the thread Clana-Revised because I felt like we were seeing a new Clana, more mature, lest angsty than what we've seen sometimes in the past. The poll was added a little later by Mod-member Wicked Jenn, who's also added some great posts on this thread. So, I think were are good as long as shippers don't argue/fight and make it personal. There have been some great posts, I'd like to keep reading them.

Thank you, Clana4Life :)

Not to take all the credit...the poll someone else had made, but your thread was first and already established so I figured I'd just add it in there and that perhaps it would add to the discussion.

Agreed...it's nice to have a good discussion where everyone can participate and voice their opinions while being respectful of others.

I like the thread title as well and I agree--it's definitely much better than it has been many many times in the past so it's very appropriate. I have hope that it will keep going as such for the rest of Kristin's arc, she deserves that IMO.

[ChlarkerClanaerCloiser]

Yes, more mature as one said. Good for the Clana. All ships good.

[marcella]

They can be just friends

[Mickey_Bickey]

Mickey_Bickey and DreamsofNever, thank you for your responses. I really like my thread, so I hope it doesn't get canned. :)
Mickey, I don't know if the writers are even trying to appeal to Chlark anymore, since they married Chloe off to Jimmy. I'm a Chlavis fan myself, but oh well, what can I say....:\ Up until this moment, there's still a chance for Clana - until they permanently end it. I don't know that they will and of course there's a chance for Clois. So a good writer will throw bait to keep as many ships watching as possible. I suspect that's what we'll get. I suspect that's what I, a Clana fan, am getting right now. But it is about the journey and just enjoying it moment to moment, so I don't get up in arms.

DreamsnofNever, that was a good analogy. I used to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I really wish the writers would leave it open. It just leaves so much to the imagination. I would never want anyone to really tell me how a book I'm reading ends. Sure from the standpoint of most comics (not all) Clark & Lois get together. From the standpoint of movies/tv shows, they don't. So for me it's like, "will they, won't they." It's open. I prefer it that way. SV has deviated SO much from past interpretations, mythos, stories etc., that anything could happen. Zod could be Clark's biological father. I don't really think that, but you get my point. I'm interested in seeing how the series will wrap up. For me, it's great to watch this show as if I'd never heard of Superman, Lana, Lois, etc. Watching it like a newbie has it perks. You'll never hear me say, It has to happen because etc., etc., etc., said so." Anything can happen. I like feeling this way about a show.

Anyway, I named the thread Clana-Revised because I felt like we were seeing a new Clana, more mature, lest angsty than what we've seen sometimes in the past. The poll was added a little later by Mod-member Wicked Jenn, who's also added some great posts on this thread. So, I think were are good as long as shippers don't argue/fight and make it personal. There have been some great posts, I'd like to keep reading them.

I love this thread! Good job, Clana4Life! I think that as long as people post respectfully there wouldn't be any need to worry. Usually, it's individual warnings or edits, but it would probably take a lot for it to be closed.

I love a healthy discussion and hearing other's views. It makes it funner and more interesting for me. I do agree that the Chlark theory is diminishing a bit now. I love Chloe's character, and actually I like her with Jimmy. Although, there aren't as many Chimmy shippers out there.

I do think Lana has grown up. It will be interesting to watch how the next few episodes pan out and then lead into the rest of the season.:)

[eas]

In Red he told Lana he was going to tell her everything but he got distracted and forgot to tell her because of their incredibly mind blowing steamy kiss at the Talon. But Kal was definitely planning on telling Lana.

That WAS a very hot kiss. I remember watching it for the first time and going, "Oh my....". It was like you could feel all of Clark's pent-up frustration just pouring out into that kiss. To date, I think it's one of the hottest shipper moments on "SV".

Umm... regarding the comparison to the "Hydro" kiss... I think it's comparing apples to oranges. Lois and Clark were at a very different place in their life. For starters, Lois was dating Oliver at the time. Lois initiated the kiss, thinking it was Oliver, and Clark wasn't expecting it.

The two things of note about the kiss, imo, is that (1) Clark kissed her back... a guy who has a strong moral code couldn't help but kiss her back, even though she was dating a good friend of his and (2) he ripped off his glasses afterwards and had this look of amazement on his face.

Welling directed that scene and he knows Clark better than anyone. If he directed Clark to stare off in amazement, with a grin on his face, seconds after he kissed Lois Lane for the first time, then I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Clark was supposed to be profoundly impacted by that kiss.

Later on, in "Crimson", Clark doesn't react the same way. Which makes sense, because it's no longer a surprise to him that he likes kissing Lois. He takes it for granted that he enjoys kissing Lois.

[melissan02]

The CLANA was amazing

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yes smallville is about CLANA not about Lois & Chloe who dont belong at all in smallville :p

Smallville is about Clark Kent's journey to becoming Superman.;)

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Smallville is not about Clana, Clois, Chlark or Brangelina. It's about Clark Kent and the future iconic figure he becomes. Period. People who are watching because of the love story between Clark and Lana can't be fans of the actual character, because Clark Kent's life cannot and should not be about the women he dates. For that, I'd recommend watching Gossip Girl or One Tree Hill.

I like Lois; however, I don't expect the show to focus only on the relationship between Clark and her, Lois is (as well as Lana was) a part of Clark's journey. That's it.
Well chosen wording there.;) And I concur, Smallville is about Clark Kent's journey to becoming Superman.
Interesting, yes, indeed.

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NOPE! it was an expression of "yea yea, whatever you say lady" Clark was just the biig "H" word that has a "Y" at the end and the letters "R", "O" "E" and "N" in the middle. And Lois happen to be available in the moment... Umm...HROENY??? Huh?:confused:





I'm just curious...if any of the Clois fans...DIDN'T KNOW that Clark and Lois were going to end up together in the end...would you STILL some how find this unseen underlying passionate chemistry that was sooooo subtle almost invisible until season 8 between the two in Smallville? Like honestly? :pI'm a Clois fan, and I'm not biting!;)

[ginnyfan]

Still ion my Clana cloud........:D

Imra came to Lana to convince Clark to kill Chloe.....and Lana REFUSED to even consider Chloe being hurt was ever an option.....by Clark or by Her! Giving Lana BIG props there! Lana wasn't afraid of another Alien, Lana is stronger and more confident, Clark sees that too! He knows that Lana sees him as a savior of people but knows him and his values with which he was raised. She has complete faith in him.......it was an important step that Clark took in that faith in himself. Well done.

Loved, LOVED the porch scene.....Kristin and Tom are just two incredibly beautiful people, not just physically but the spirit with which they express themselves with each other. It is a very rare chemistry indeed. Smallville struck gold when they cast KK and TW! Even after months apart, The Clark and Lana magic is so there!

The Legion has great respect for Lana and I thank Geoff Johns for showing that......AND.....the emphasis was that Lana does have an important future.....a destiny herself and that is what I want to see finally!

I guess Chloe's future is still to be determined.....maybe she will be part of the Superman future?

Well done Legion.......bring on more Lana!!:)

Great post. I had a chat with an SV buddy of mine (my sister) and she suggested to me that although I wasn't worried about Lana's future, that probably wasn't true of all fans. She said that one of the biggest problems with "Hero" is that it didn't address Pete's future at all but basically kept him where he was when he left in Season 3. Grudgingly I admit that they did a good job in this respect.


That's interesting, I know there's a comic scan on SWEET where it shows future Clark with future Lana way into the future... Wait found it:

http://lana-clark.net/comic/GenerationsFull1.jpg

Wow! I guess Lana thinks Clark is worth the wait also.


I think I am obviously watching a different show than most people and I'm tired of the disrespect I see going around. There is a difference between stating your opinion and then being rude about it.

Clark was in charge and had his own principles that he stood by. I did not see Lana regress him in any way. She was there in a support role which is what Chloe tends to do, but I found Lana's support more realistic.

The LOSH can't inform Lana or Clark about what the exact future holds for them. That would be a violation and interfering. Imra couldn't tell Lana their relationship wouldn't last. That could alter the past. The fact that Clana ends in Superman canon has to be decided by Lana and Clark themselves. No one can tell them.

I believe Lana took Imra's vagueness as a sign that maybe she and Clark could work things out. Clark is at a crossroads in his life and now that he knows he makes such an impact on a cosmic level so he's probably going to wonder how Lana fits into everything. It makes sense that they might try to rekindle something here.

We know how the story ends. The characters don't.

Great post. Perhaps the future is not set.


Agree:
I don't like the "Destiny" word to much either and I'm a Cloiser!

I don't like the word "Iconic." *shudder*

For me "destiny" is a combination of potential and choice. I don't see it as inevitable, but just a wonderful possibility based on potential and the right choices... and I guess maybe a little luck. For me, I'd say destiny and purpose are interchangeable. It comes from you as much as the cosmos or whatever.

I'm still a bit disappointed in the way Clana was written in "Legion" though now I've gained a little more perspective. I'm hoping that the next few episodes are more enjoyable for me.

[Clana4Life]

Wow! I guess Lana thinks Clark is worth the wait also.

Yeah. As much as I love Clana, gotta say that I wouldn't expect Lana to wait for him for 700 years! But hopefully she was doing her own thing for 699 years and thought about contacting Clark in the last year. ;) I thought it was nice what Bruce Wayne said about Clana. :)



I'm still a bit disappointed in the way Clana was written in "Legion" though now I've gained a little more perspective. I'm hoping that the next few episodes are more enjoyable for me.

How so Ginny? What disappointed you and what are you hoping to see in the upcoming episodes?

[eas]

No one knows Clark's life after his life with Lois... the comics don't seem to age him anymore then he has been for the past 70 years! They seem to remind in the same timeline all the time and just moves a year forward like every 20 years. At least it seems that way! :lol:

No one knows who he may be with at the very end.... since Clark will out live Lois. It's open to our imagine and comic writers have played with that idea... shown in that comic scan I posted.

To me Smallville sure as heck makes it seem like he chooses Lois because he can't have Lana... When Lana was around, Clark showed no interest in Lois... Lana gone for longest she's ever been gone and finally Clark shows interest, Lana returns and it's "Lois who?", Lana leaves and Clark back to considering Lois. Such love! :lol:

Seriously, if I didn't already know the outcome of Clark and Lois, I would had seriously saw Clois the same way I see Chlark, it's never gonna happen.... just a lot teasing and a whole lot of nothing.

Sometimes, it's the most unlikely ship that ends up working out. And, sometimes, the ship from the first episode is the one that doesn't work out. "Dawson's Creek" is an example. The first episode had Joey climbing into Dawson's window and one would have thought that this was the end-game... sure, we'd see Joey and Dawson didder and dawdle, but - ultimately - we'd see them end up together. It didn't work out that way, though. And the series showed us why. Same with Marissa/Ryan in "The O.C.". In fact, Taylor was a character who was supposed to be hated and, in the final season, she ended up with Ryan.

Anyway... I'm an SVCloiser not because it's "destiny" or "iconic" or anything like that. My hatred of SRClois is enough for me to know that. (I could care less if they end up together and, truthfully, felt that Richard could have done better than SRLois.)

I really do feel that SVLois is the best woman out of all the 3 women in the show. I also feel that she is the best fit for SVClark and I happen to love them together. I wouldn't 'ship them otherwise.

If I didn't know these two would end up together, I'd probably watch Clana thinking that TPTB were yanking our chain about them, and keep thinking to myself, "Why is he with Lana when Lois is so much better for him? These writers have no idea what they're doing."

It's similar to how I feel about Amanda in "Kyle XY"... she's clearly supposed to be the love of his life, but I keep waiting for them to bring in a new character who is the REAL love of his life, because I don't think she's right for him. Even TPTB want me to ship them so badly, I can't ship Kyle/Amanda, because there's just something off about it, to me. That's probably how I'd feel about Clana, if I didn't know about Clois.

[ginnyfan]

How so Ginny? What disappointed you and what are you hoping to see in the upcoming episodes?

The Lana-worship from Saturn Girl and Lana channeling Chloe.

I have had a little time to cool off and I now appreciate that it's just good writing to give us an idea of what happens to Lana in the future. These may be her last episodes on the series. I guess I would rather see Lana inspired to change the world than hear Saturn Girl talk about how wonderful Lana is. We had hints that Lana is driven toward something huge that makes her really happy and gives her purpose in "Bride." I would have liked for that to continue coming from Lana rather than Lana fans from the future. LOL! I guess I'm getting a little perspective on all the Clois anvil complaining.

I understand that Lana's role should have been transitioning into being a confidant and friend to Clark for a while now. In fact, Clana friendship one of the best things about the early seasons of the show. I guess I was hoping to see that kind of friendship dynamic from season 1 blossom into something even deeper than what it was. Clark and Lana have been through a lot together and have grown up. I agree with others that it was nice to see Clark and Lana talking together without angst and with maturity. However, I just couldn't shake the feeling that Lana was saying Chloe's lines. I don't know.

So for the most part it's specifically a writing thing. It's not about the purpose behind the writing but the way they executed that purpose, if that makes sense.

I'm hoping to see Clark and Lana consider renewing their romance. I'd like to see them talk about it and see why they decide not to. I want to see some Lana-fu. I do want to see more Clana friendship and fighting together without Lana worship or Lana giving me Chloe deja vu. Maybe we'll even get to see Chloe, Lana and Clark working together. And now I guess I want to see hints of what made Saturn Girl such a huge Lana fan.

What are you hoping to see in the remaining Clana episodes Clana4Life?

[Clana4Life]

The Lana-worship from Saturn Girl and Lana channeling Chloe.

I have had a little time to cool off and I now appreciate that it's just good writing to give us an idea of what happens to Lana in the future. These may be her last episodes on the series. I guess I would rather see Lana inspired to change the world than hear Saturn Girl talk about how wonderful Lana is. We had hints that Lana is driven toward something huge that makes her really happy and gives her purpose in "Bride." I would have liked for that to continue coming from Lana rather than Lana fans from the future. LOL! I guess I'm getting a little perspective on all the Clois anvil complaining.

I understand that Lana's role should have been transitioning into being a confidant and friend to Clark for a while now. In fact, Clana friendship one of the best things about the early seasons of the show. I guess I was hoping to see that kind of friendship dynamic from season 1 blossom into something even deeper than what it was. Clark and Lana have been through a lot together and have grown up. I agree with others that it was nice to see Clark and Lana talking together without angst and with maturity. However, I just couldn't shake the feeling that Lana was saying Chloe's lines. I don't know.

So for the most part it's specifically a writing thing. It's not about the purpose behind the writing but the way they executed that purpose, if that makes sense.

I'm hoping to see Clark and Lana consider renewing their romance. I'd like to see them talk about it and see why they decide not to. I want to see some Lana-fu. I do want to see more Clana friendship and fighting together without Lana worship or Lana giving me Chloe deja vu. Maybe we'll even get to see Chloe, Lana and Clark working together. And now I guess I want to see hints of what made Saturn Girl such a huge Lana fan.

What are you hoping to see in the remaining Clana episodes Clana4Life?

Hey Ginny! Thanks for asking. I didn't really feel like Lana was channeling Chloe. Her line at the end reminded me of what she had said earlier in Warrior Angel about if people could look up to him like they did with Warrior Angel. But maybe you were talking about the conversation she had with Clark about not killing Chloe.
What I'd like to see is them considering renewing the romance just like you said. I also agree that I'd love to see some Lana-fu. :lol: I want to see them working more together. I think they make an awesome team. I'd actually forgotten what great friends they were prior to the romance. Thanks for reminding me of that. I'd like to see them fly off together in the sunset, but obviously I'm not going to get that. So I'd like to see a heartfelt in the vein of "I'll always love you, you'll always be with me, etc," but happy parting - Lana going off somewhere to do something great. Clark sad to see her go but supporting her and an open ending that doesn't necessarily close the door forever on what could be in the future.

[ginnyfan]

Hey Ginny! Thanks for asking. I didn't really feel like Lana was channeling Chloe. Her line at the end reminded me of what she had said earlier in Warrior Angel about if people could look up to him like they did with Warrior Angel. But maybe you were talking about the conversation she had with Clark about not killing Chloe.

Hmm... I need to watch "Legion" again. I really loved all the things Lana said in "Action." I cringed the most during the Isis scene. That may have been the scene where Lana was encouraging Clark not to kill Chloe.

I love Lana-fu! LOL!


I'd like to see them fly off together in the sunset, but obviously I'm not going to get that. So I'd like to see a heartfelt in the vein of "I'll always love you, you'll always be with me, etc," but happy parting - Lana going off somewhere to do something great. Clark sad to see her go but supporting her and an open ending that doesn't necessarily close the door forever on what could be in the future.

I read a fanfic where the Clana goodbye scene happened in the graveyard. I guess that would be kind of cheesy but... the closet clana in me (SHH! Don't tell any one!) would like to see them visit a few of the old haunts.

Porch scene - check. We got a loft scene but it was sad and angsty.

[Clana4Life]

I read a fanfic where the Clana goodbye scene happened in the graveyard. I guess that would be kind of cheesy but... the closet clana in me (SHH! Don't tell any one!) would like to see them visit a few of the old haunts.

Porch scene - check. We got a loft scene but it was sad and angsty.

Ginny, I would love that! They could talk at Lana's parents' graveyard like they did in episode 1 or 2. I can't remember which. Some people might think that's a bit creepy though. :) Ahh, the old haunts. That reminds me of something one of my favorite heroines, Anne Shirely, ahem...Anne Shirley Gilbert would say in the Anne of Green Gables books. Talon needs to be visited. High school football field. Maybe have them scream out on the field like they once did. Good old memory lane! :)

[ginnyfan]

Ah. Anne and Gilbert. <3 *contented sigh*

[paolinki25]

Indeed. I will actually be very happy if they finally get a proper closure. The scenes they shared this time weren't packed with angst, and that was very refreshing. I just fear they will deviate from this. I truly hope they won't.

[Kreukie]

Sometimes, it's the most unlikely ship that ends up working out. And, sometimes, the ship from the first episode is the one that doesn't work out. "Dawson's Creek" is an example. The first episode had Joey climbing into Dawson's window and one would have thought that this was the end-game... sure, we'd see Joey and Dawson didder and dawdle, but - ultimately - we'd see them end up together. It didn't work out that way, though. And the series showed us why. Same with Marissa/Ryan in "The O.C.". In fact, Taylor was a character who was supposed to be hated and, in the final season, she ended up with Ryan.

The only reason those ships happened, or at least from what I know from Dawson's Creek. Is because the Joey and Pacey's pairing was a lot more popular with the fans then the Joey and Dawson's pairing. It was simply about pleasing the fans, not because it was planned out that way from the start.

On FRIENDS it started with Ross and Rachel and it ended with Ross and Rachel and it ended that way because again, it was simply about pleasing the fans. They were the fan favorite.

But Smallville isn't like any of those series! In Smallville we're told who Clark ends up with and even if most fans disapprov, it's still going to happen regardless what most of us want!

PS: I just remembered that Marissa was killed on TheOC and that was because the actress who played her wanted out of the series. So really, that TheOC example is not a good one. Because who's to say if the actress who played Marissa didn't leave the series, Marissa and Ryan wouldn't had ended up together in the series finale? :confused:

[tmack09]

Umm...HROENY??? Huh?:confused:

:lol: I wasn't about to write the word out...but even spelled the way you wrote it I still can read it...lmao!

[paolinki25]

Well, if I had ever been a Clana fan, I'd have just embraced whatever it was shown to me during the seasons and never and ever thought Clark and Lana were going to end up together. Like you said, Smallville is not that type of show (Dawson's Creek, One Tree Hill, etc) where there isn't a story already written. SV is a show that's based on a pre-written story, a story where Clark Kent (in the majority of versions) ends up with a girl named Lois Lane.

[Kreukie]

:lol: I wasn't about to write the word out...but even spelled the way you wrote it I still can read it...lmao!

Are you sure there's an 'E'? I just ask because the word I'm thinking doesn't have an 'E'. :lol:

[tmack09]

Are you sure there's an 'E'? I just ask because the word I'm thinking doesn't have an 'E'. :lol:

hahahaha...tis true...my bad! :lol:


That's interesting, I know there's a comic scan on SWEET where it shows future Clark with future Lana way into the future... Wait found it:

http://lana-clark.net/comic/GenerationsFull1.jpg

WHOA!! Well...would ya look at that! :D ...thanks so much Kreukie for bringing that here...just made my night!

[SacredK]

The two will always love each other. The real question is are they still in love with each other, then I would say no. There relationship seems very Clark and Chloe in this episode. There seemed to have been something in Bride, but I don't see the 'in love' spark in Legion.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Umm...HROENY??? Huh?:confused:;)

Desire was through the roof that's for sure even before at the farm! LOL! That outfit had him speechless.

It's too bad the writers didn't have more scenes like that for Clana. I think it would have spiced up their relationship. There's the metaphor of "plain vanilla" and "wild cherry". Basically, which one has more flavor? Which do fans/people prefer?

Like I said before Clana's like Scarlett O'Hara and Ashley Wilkes. Fun to watch for 5 minutes then it gets boring. :\

Maybe they'll spice them up a bit in the next couple of episodes. I didn't see it in Legion, but maybe with the new grown up Lana there will be more "wild cherry".

Personally, I much prefer the spicey flavorful relationships like that of Scarlett O'Hara and Rhett Butler! That banter, that chemistry, those suppressed feelings and firey passion! I could watch it over and over and never get bored!:):cool:

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I will say I was tired of the CLANA last season, I was ready to get off the roller coaster ride...

however this season version of CLANA 2.0 is refreshing so far and has a grown up feeling that it was lacking for a while....

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also it how the talk to each other that is different that doesnt make me run out of the room...7 months of being apart was a good thing

[celita]

hahahaha...tis true...my bad! :lol:



WHOA!! Well...would ya look at that! :D ...thanks so much Kreukie for bringing that here...just made my night!

Ah I remember that comic, it was distrubing "Lex Killed Lois" too bad that this is like 1 in like hundres comic about Clark ending alone after Lois death. He travels all over the galaxy and he spends 15,000 years inside the Sun, comes back as Superman Prime (who is made of gold), resurrects Lois (who is made of silver) from a speck of DNA he gets from Solaris and they live happily ever after. (thanks to LuvCk for this info)

It puts your things n perespective when some comics like ^^ surface and you lose faith in the world.

Lets see how this timeline of the comics turnout, although after some panties I don't see much future for Clana on this current cimic book timeline:rotfl:

[melissan02]

Are you sure there's an 'E'? I just ask because the word I'm thinking doesn't have an 'E'. :lol:

Ah-ha,--nope, that word doesn't have an 'E' in it. I can't believe I missed that one...'cause my mind is usually in the gutter:o, as my Clois friends could tell you! :lol:heehee

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Ah I remember that comic, it was distrubing "Lex Killed Lois" too bad that this is like 1 in like hundres comic about Clark ending alone after Lois death. He travels all over the galaxy and he spends 15,000 years inside the Sun, comes back as Superman Prime (who is made of gold), resurrects Lois (who is made of silver) from a speck of DNA he gets from Solaris and they live happily ever after. (thanks to LuvCk for this info)

It puts your things n perespective when some comics like ^^ surface and you lose faith in the world.

Lets see how this timeline of the comics turnout, although after some panties I don't see much future for Clana on this current cimic book timeline:rotfl:

Cool celita!!:cool: Glad you were able to dig up that factual comic information!:)

I now recall that yes,--- Superman Prime did resurrect Lois w/ a speck of DNA from Solaris, then yes, they do live happily ever after.:)

Hey, and 15,000 years is a heck of a LOT LONGER than 700 years....you can check my math, but, I'm pretty sure it is!:lol:

Ah, the comics...gotta love 'em!

[Mickey_Bickey]

Ah I remember that comic, it was distrubing "Lex Killed Lois" too bad that this is like 1 in like hundres comic about Clark ending alone after Lois death. He travels all over the galaxy and he spends 15,000 years inside the Sun, comes back as Superman Prime (who is made of gold), resurrects Lois (who is made of silver) from a speck of DNA he gets from Solaris and they live happily ever after. (thanks to LuvCk for this info)

It puts your things n perespective when some comics like ^^ surface and you lose faith in the world.

Lets see how this timeline of the comics turnout, although after some panties I don't see much future for Clana on this current cimic book timeline:rotfl:

Wow, I didn't know all that! How romantic Clark/Superman is!!:) I love when people have in depth information on the comics!!

[ginnyfan]

Like I said before Clana's like Scarlett O'Hara and Ashley Wilkes. Fun to watch for 5 minutes then it gets boring. :\

Wow that's an interesting analogy. Does that make Whitney "mealy mouthed" Melanie Hamilton? LOL!


Personally, I much prefer the spicey flavorful relationships like that of Scarlett O'Hara and Rhett Butler! That banter, that chemistry, those suppressed feelings and firey passion! I could watch it over and over and never get bored!:):cool:

Certainly for Clark, I prefer the love/hate, competitive, banter-filled relationship he has with Lois Lane.

Season 7 was the time for spicy Clana IMO. That was a disappointment in some ways. Sometimes I get the feeling the writers think happy couples are boring.

[dreamsofnever]

Wow that's an interesting analogy. Does that make Whitney "mealy mouthed" Melanie Hamilton? LOL!



Certainly for Clark, I prefer the love/hate, competitive, banter-filled relationship he has with Lois Lane.

Season 7 was the time for spicy Clana IMO. That was a disappointment in some ways. Sometimes I get the feeling the writers think happy couples are boring.

You and me both, Britt. But it's not just the writers on Smallville. I think most writers of just about any show that's a drama seem to not realize that you can have a happy couple and have them deal with drama together.

Though, I have to say as a writer, I'm guilty of throwing up obstacles to keep my couples on their toes too, and to sometimes keep them apart.

So I suppose, storytelling is conflict. It's just that certain types of conflict are extremely overdone in the relationship arena.

And I'm like you, I like couples who banter. I'm such a sucker for that, hence my Lois and Clark affinity.

But ultimately, shipping is subjective. There's no one 'right' ship. It's just personal preferences.

Yes, there's usually an endgame ship, but that doesn't mean we all have to like it, if that makes sense.

[Kreukie]

Season 7 was the time for spicy Clana IMO. That was a disappointment in some ways. Sometimes I get the feeling the writers think happy couples are boring.

Angst is what helped this series last 8 seasons. :rolleyes:

[Mickey_Bickey]

Wow that's an interesting analogy. Does that make Whitney "mealy mouthed" Melanie Hamilton? LOL!



Certainly for Clark, I prefer the love/hate, competitive, banter-filled relationship he has with Lois Lane.

Season 7 was the time for spicy Clana IMO. That was a disappointment in some ways. Sometimes I get the feeling the writers think happy couples are boring.


Thanks, ginnyfan! I think the spice of Clana should have been in S3 and should have ended in S5. That's really the season everything started getting too polluted, and the season they should have moved in.

By dragging things out they've comprimised Clark's character, and made a lot of fans unhappy in the process. Let's hope they can write this last chapter of Clana in the next 3 episodes as two strong individuals parting ways. I would like them mutually agree that friendship is the only way to go, and I want to see it on both ends. I think both Clark and Lana deserve that. I don't want to see any more angst between them.

Maybe Whitney could have been Melanie.:lol:

[eas]

The only reason those ships happened, or at least from what I know from Dawson's Creek. Is because the Joey and Pacey's pairing was a lot more popular with the fans then the Joey and Dawson's pairing. It was simply about pleasing the fans, not because it was planned out that way from the start.

On FRIENDS it started with Ross and Rachel and it ended with Ross and Rachel and it ended that way because again, it was simply about pleasing the fans. They were the fan favorite.

But Smallville isn't like any of those series! In Smallville we're told who Clark ends up with and even if most fans disapprov, it's still going to happen regardless what most of us want!

PS: I just remembered that Marissa was killed on TheOC and that was because the actress who played her wanted out of the series. So really, that TheOC example is not a good one. Because who's to say if the actress who played Marissa didn't leave the series, Marissa and Ryan wouldn't had ended up together in the series finale? :confused:

But that's my point... that even in shows where the ending is not pre-written, it can turn out that a ship that you're supposed to root for doesn't work out. Surprises can happen.

My post was in response to the general view that Cloisers only ship Clois because it's pre-written & that Clana would have been end game, no matter what, if Clois wasn't pre-written.

My attitude is: We have no clue what would have happened with Clois/Clana if the ending wasn't written. I feel like Clana - if it was written the way that it is now - would still have ended up not working out, because there's been so much energy expended in their drama that it's hard to root for the couple, imo, and it wouldn't be surprising if, in fact, it didn't work out.

Regarding The OC: In point of fact, the actress didn't want to be let out of her contract. She was fired and she was so bitter about it that she "spilled" the secret of her death before her last episode aired. She parted on bad terms with the folks behind The OC. And the reason she was "let go" was because there was a lot fan hatred of her character & a lot of people felt that the Marissa/Ryan relationship was the worst part of the show and that she brought the character of Ryan down too much.

Sound familiar? ;)

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Certainly for Clark, I prefer the love/hate, competitive, banter-filled relationship he has with Lois Lane.

Season 7 was the time for spicy Clana IMO. That was a disappointment in some ways. Sometimes I get the feeling the writers think happy couples are boring.

They tried to make it 'spicy' with "Wrath", didn't they? And it can be argued that there was spicy BizLana... poor Lana didn't know that it wasn't Clark, so I definitely count that as a point in Lana's life where she thought she was in a happy, physical, relationship with her boyfriend. He just turned out to be an evil clone....

I think what hurt Clana in S7 was the Brianiac/coma problem. (Which, of course, was because of KK's unavailability.) It seems to me that they had a good turning point in "Siren" and they were moving towards a place in their relationship where they were at ease with each other & they were going to lay all their chips on the table.

I think that it would have been great if we saw this Lana in S7 & she was able to redeem herself from her arc at the beginning of S7. The problem now is that it's been so long that we can't remember much of S7 except the angst and the darkness.

But, if I'm honest, Lana had her moments in S7 that makes S8 make a bit of sense. This Lana, in S8, is the Lana I saw in "Action". I just wish she'd been able to be more like "Action" Lana throughout S7, so this 'new' Lana wouldn't have been so jarring.

[ginnyfan]

Angst is what helped this series last 8 seasons. :rolleyes:

Uh. I don't know whether or not you're joking.


Thanks, ginnyfan! I think the spice of Clana should have been in S3 and should have ended in S5. That's really the season everything started getting too polluted, and the season they should have moved in.

By dragging things out they've comprimised Clark's character, and made a lot of fans unhappy in the process. Let's hope they can write this last chapter of Clana in the next 3 episodes as two strong individuals parting ways. I would like them mutually agree that friendship is the only way to go, and I want to see it on both ends. I think both Clark and Lana deserve that. I don't want to see any more angst between them.

Maybe Whitney could have been Melanie.:lol:

I agree. Yes ideally, looking back, Clana should have been given a shot in Season 3. It would have been so exciting if Clark had told Lana his secret back in "Extinction." When he finally told her it was kind of anticlimactic. I agree that dragging things out wasn't great for Clark's character. Since they did drag things out all the way to Clana finally being together in Season 7 with no secrets and lies, it would have been nice to finally see some happy Clana.


They tried to make it 'spicy' with "Wrath", didn't they? And it can be argued that there was spicy BizLana... poor Lana didn't know that it wasn't Clark, so I definitely count that as a point in Lana's life where she thought she was in a happy, physical, relationship with her boyfriend. He just turned out to be an evil clone....

I think what hurt Clana in S7 was the Brianiac/coma problem. (Which, of course, was because of KK's unavailability.) It seems to me that they had a good turning point in "Siren" and they were moving towards a place in their relationship where they were at ease with each other & they were going to lay all their chips on the table.

That's true. I kind of pricked up my ears after "Siren" and then... nothing. Perhaps it was the availability issue. Clark and Lana did have a lot of stuff to hash out. Wrath was certainly spicy Clana. LOL! So perhaps the writers strike had a lot to do with the way the season ended for Clark and Lana. That makes me think about what you said about Clana this season being ill timed. :)


I think that it would have been great if we saw this Lana in S7 & she was able to redeem herself from her arc at the beginning of S7. The problem now is that it's been so long that we can't remember much of S7 except the angst and the darkness.

But, if I'm honest, Lana had her moments in S7 that makes S8 make a bit of sense. This Lana, in S8, is the Lana I saw in "Action". I just wish she'd been able to be more like "Action" Lana throughout S7, so this 'new' Lana wouldn't have been so jarring.

Yes I agree. Maybe we would have seen this Lana near the end of Season 7 if not for the writer's strike. Clana4Life made a connection between "Action" and "Legion" also. That makes me feel better about the role Lana played in "Legion."

[Mickey_Bickey]

Uh. I don't know whether or not you're joking.

:lol:




I agree. Yes ideally, looking back, Clana should have been given a shot in Season 3. It would have been so exciting if Clark had told Lana his secret back in "Extinction." When he finally told her it was kind of anticlimactic. I agree that dragging things out wasn't great for Clark's character. Since they did drag things out all the way to Clana finally being together in Season 7 with no secrets and lies, it would have been nice to finally see some happy Clana.

Happy Clana? And go against everything Clana stands for [angst and despair]? Over Clana's dead body!:lol:

[MetroGirl06]

I don't believe theres any romantic love between them anymore. Too much crap went on between them for that. I think they still feel affection for each other as friends.

[geminis]

Not only angst and despair, solitary perfection apart from each other:

Clark, I'm interested, now go save the world, I don't need you, everybody else needs you more.

Poor Lana, she had to constantly fight with Clark and ultimately result to subterfuge to find out his secret, but now that she knows, I don't think it has done a whole lot to improve their romantic relationship. She is glad she knows, he accepts that she knows, but they are on uneven ground. She pushes him away from her to go out and save others. No wonder Clark is confused about Lana. Darned if she does and darned if she doesn't.

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I don't believe theres any romantic love between them anymore. Too much crap went on between them for that. I think they still feel affection for each other as friends.

I think there was still a spark, but it's dying out.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I think there was still a spark, but it's dying out.

It's like striking a match but it doesn't light.

[sarcami]

Clang Clang Clang
Here comes the bell knelling Clang to a close.
Love? Well if one views it that way, how lovely for them.
Will it be love always? I hope by the power of grayskull that it ends with mutual friendship and brotherly love

[Kid Collins]

I don't believe theres any romantic love between them anymore. Too much crap went on between them for that. I think they still feel affection for each other as friends.

Yeah right. That's why Clark keeps pictures of him and Lana in his house. Romantic pics of their time together.

I don't feel a friends vibe at all. Not at all.

[Super-Show]

I know the Clana debate will go on and on! But lets all try to remember that the show is still called " Smallville" The story of Clark Kent before he becomes Superman. While the creatures of Smallville have taken some liberties by changing some of the history of the story by adding things that really happen later in Clark's life. Like it or not Lana is Clark's first true love. I think that if the Lana of the past two episodes of this season were allowed to run her course - there realtionship would be one that would be intersting to watch. For the first time she is adding to his role he will play in the future and not only that but doing it at the expense of her feelings. Though it appears to be coming to an end after the next three episodes, lets all hope that it ends in a way that is fitting for them both. Them saying goodbye for now knowing that Clark needs to complete his transformasion from super boy to Superman, knowing that deep down inside that both love each other but as has happend before, Clark needs to but his needs aside for those of the greater good and that Lana understands and wants to help him by letting him go. Lets hope also that this final scene is shot, not in the hospital, or anywhere else but where it all began - the barn by the open window!

[eas]

Yeah right. That's why Clark keeps pictures of him and Lana in his house. Romantic pics of their time together.

I don't feel a friends vibe at all. Not at all.

But those pictures weren't there in "Identity". It's hard to take it seriously for that reason. Those pics were brought back in because Lana returned and they needed to justify Saturn Girl's comments. Personally, I think it would have made more sense if SG had found a pic of Lana in Clark's broken trunk when she was cleaning up the barn.

Also, I hated that they stuck that in there (to help progression Lana's character) because it makes Clark look bad that he kept her photos around after she dumped him via DVD.

It's those sorts of things that always make Clana ring false for me... that I'm kind of "spoon fed" this great love story, when the pieces are so disjointed and don't have much to do with each other. It makes no narrative sense for Clark to have those photos and in "Identity" (an episode where Clark was awesome) he didn't have them around. The second Lana is back in town, they put them out again & suddenly Clark isn't so awesome anymore. Hard to like Clana because of the lack of continuity and the impact it has on Clark's character.

[Clana4Life]

Part of the problem with SV is that too many people know the end and it causes one to forget the journey. That's why we get so many "He has to be with Lois it's cannon. Clana has no place, endgame is Clois. Clark has to become Superman." We have the book and we know the ending. I just keep hoping the writers throw bones that go against all of the preconceived notions. Rewrite history or rather reinterpret it. So I try to watch it in the moment. If I'd never heard of Clark Kent/Superman, would I think Clois was endgame? Probably not, particularly if I didn't know that KK was leaving. And even if I found this tidbit of info out, I'd think she would be back for the last few episodes before series end so that the original couple would work things out, etc. I'd also not be sure that he'd go off to be a superhero. I'd feel like his biggest choice would be whether to go off and be a great hero or make a family with the woman he's loved for most of his life. I'd see Lois as this different, vibrant and sometimes annoying but funny girl who he'd date for a while but ultimately end up hurting or Lois would be the girl that speaks up and says "I know you care about me Clark, but....and then they'd break up. I don't know what I'd think her fate would be - probably she and Oliver getting back together by series end. It's so interesting (call it unrealistic probably) to think of all of the possibilities without getting this wall of cannon, mythos, comics that in some ways stifles creativity I think. I wish we could all keep guessing.

[melissan02]

It's like striking a match but it doesn't light.

Or striking a match, then it burns your finger, so you blow it out!;):lol:

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Part of the problem with SV is that too many people know the end and it causes one to forget the journey. Well, I for one am enjoying the journey of the Clois legendary love story beginning to play out on SV. ED said herself in a recent interview, "it's about the journey", so I'm all for it actually. ;)
Clana has no place, endgame is Clois. I would never want to argue that Clana had no place. SV, mythos, movies, or otherwise. Obviously Clana does have a place, and should. IMHO:)

Rewrite history or rather reinterpret it.Um, I don't know, I think the Superman mythology afficionados would really go bonkers:lol: if the story had a complete re-write. :eek: A re-interpretation is one thing (mostly acceptable), but a re-write, well, ---legally, I don't believe it could be done to the Superman mythology. Plus, a re-interpretation is what we've seen on SV, and I commend them for it. Namely, Lois Lane being brought on in S4 much to my pleasant surprise.:D

[ginnyfan]

Not only angst and despair, solitary perfection apart from each other:

Clark, I'm interested, now go save the world, I don't need you, everybody else needs you more.

Poor Lana, she had to constantly fight with Clark and ultimately result to subterfuge to find out his secret, but now that she knows, I don't think it has done a whole lot to improve their romantic relationship. She is glad she knows, he accepts that she knows, but they are on uneven ground. She pushes him away from her to go out and save others. No wonder Clark is confused about Lana. Darned if she does and darned if she doesn't.

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I think there was still a spark, but it's dying out.

Well I think Clark was sending out mixed signals also. He was into her, but then he backed off for Whitney's sake. Then he was into her but then he was into some other chick while on RedK. Then he was into her then he ran away. Then he was into her but felt he was too dangerous for her and on and on. Finally in Season 7 Lana was right when she called Clark on not being honest with himself. He was still hung up on Lana marrying Lex among other things but instead of confronting her he was just cold and pretended everything was ok. He was really closed off from Lana, secret or no secret. It's not that I blame him but... he really should have opened up about his feelings. The difference between Bizarro and Clark was like night and day. You could just feel the love coming from Bizarro in that naked morning after scene. It rivals the Clana morning after from... Hidden? I dunno.


Lets hope also that this final scene is shot, not in the hospital, or anywhere else but where it all began - the barn by the open window!

When you say where it all began what scene are you referring to? I always think of the graveyard as where it all began but... as Clana4Life suggested, that might be kinda macabre. Are you talking about their first kiss?


It's so interesting (call it unrealistic probably) to think of all of the possibilities without getting this wall of cannon, mythos, comics that in some ways stifles creativity I think. I wish we could all keep guessing.

I agree. I think it's fun to see the similarities between Clois on SV and in other media but I really am more of an in the moment viewer. I honestly like Clois for what I see between them onscreen in SV. I think... Lana has been the love of Clark's life thus far. I don't think that can be denied. Whether I like the writing or feel that the relationship has been healthy is another thing.

The reason I'm NOT a Clana shipper certainly doesn't have anything to do with mythos endgame for me personally.

*sigh*

If there are any Clana fans still interested in posting here, I'd like to read what you guys are looking forward to in the last few Clana episodes. Whether it's likely to happen or not.

I'd like to see Clark and Lana have a REALLY GOOD LAUGH. Just laugh til they have to wipe away tears.

[Sv.LoisLane]

Yeah right. That's why Clark keeps pictures of him and Lana in his house. Romantic pics of their time together.

I don't feel a friends vibe at all. Not at all.

I won't comment on this because everyone is free to have their opinion.

But you mentiong the photos reminded me one thing. Who took the picture of them at the picnic? They were alone if I remember well.

Maybe it was the horse. Who knows.

[Serynarpc]

I loved Clana in this episode - working together, no angst. :) I loved how Lana encouraged Clark. She said everything he needed to hear. It was like we were seeing a mature relationship. And even Saturn Girl leaves open the possibility of what could be. The future/destiny is not written in stone. Did anyone see all of the Lana/Clark pictures in Clark's house? Wow! Saturn Girl picked up one. And then that last scene with Clana where he asks Lana what they will write next - priceless. Lana's destiny is sounding pretty great, too. I look forward to the next three episodes with her in it. She definitely adds to the show. I think this is a Clana everyone can get on board with. :)

No, its not. I'm ticking off the five episodes that KK has contracted to do. In the past, Clana was the anchor around Clark's neck. She was always the distraction/wanton school boy crush that distracted him from the bigger picture. He was more worried about Lex dating his ex than his best friend being abducted (by Lex, if Clark had ever followed up on it).

While Lana has clearly developed into a more mature, responsible woman and I can easily watch Clana scenes where in the past I gagged through them, Clana is in the past. Its time to face forward.

[Kid Collins]

But those pictures weren't there in "Identity". It's hard to take it seriously for that reason. Those pics were brought back in because Lana returned and they needed to justify Saturn Girl's comments. Personally, I think it would have made more sense if SG had found a pic of Lana in Clark's broken trunk when she was cleaning up the barn.

Lana wasn't back in Identity. Clark obviously took them out after he found out that Lana came back. It's his way of giving her hints that he's far from over her.

See if Imra found it in a trunk then it would be a clear signal that Clark is trying to get over Lana. This way Clana pics prominently displayed in his home clearly shows that Clark isn't over Lana. Not by a long shot.



Also, I hated that they stuck that in there (to help progression Lana's character) because it makes Clark look bad that he kept her photos around after she dumped him via DVD.

Just because Clark got dumped via DVD doesn't mean he gets over Lana any easier. If that were the case there wouldn't be dumpees calling their ex's begging them to take them back. I'm speaking from experience (didn't get dumped via video but phone which is just as bad. very rude). :lol:

Clark can't control how he feels. It's only been 7 months since Lana's disappeared.


It's those sorts of things that always make Clana ring false for me... that I'm kind of "spoon fed" this great love story, when the pieces are so disjointed and don't have much to do with each other. It makes no narrative sense for Clark to have those photos and in "Identity" (an episode where Clark was awesome) he didn't have them around. The second Lana is back in town, they put them out again & suddenly Clark isn't so awesome anymore. Hard to like Clana because of the lack of continuity and the impact it has on Clark's character.

Gee, what you said totally reminds me of the forced Clois shoved in my face this season. It totally rings false with Lois sudden interest because Clark got a job in the Daily Planet and started wearing a suit. Lois always treated Clark like a little brother before that. I guess Clark wearing plaid was a real turnoff for Lois. But a suit now there's a real change and she's all of a sudden interested.

And let's not talk about the awful forced Clois anvils thrown in every single Clois scene this season. :rolleyes::lol:

[melissan02]

Lana wasn't back in Identity. Clark obviously took them out after he found out that Lana came back. It's his way of giving her hints that he's far from over her.


No, Lana wasn't back in "Identity", therefore, the photos weren't needed.

Clark didn't take any photos out to display them, the stagehands did per director's instructions.

It's the director's way of giving us hints that because this is Lana's arc, the photos around serve the purpose of being --props.

My speculation is that once Lana is gone in 3 more episodes, we might see one photo, if we look real close as the camera pans in a scene, or, we might not see any, at all.:\

I'd say if Pete Ross came back, if the camera panned the right way, we'd see a photo of Clark and Pete. Then when Pete left, you'd see no photo of Clark and Pete.:lol:
See what I'm saying?
It's all props.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Actually, speaking of Pete, does Lana get together with him once Clana ends in a couple of episodes?

Perhaps, if Pete had stayed on the show longer, and Clana ended back in S3 [when it should have], they could have introduced Lete to the series!

Bottom line, Clana will be done for good in a few episodes. If there is a S9 (hopefully) maybe Lete could come into play? I would definitely enjoy Lete after Clana is done of course.:)

Lana deserves to be happy after Clana ends! I believe Lete will help immensely in easing Lana's pain after the aftermath of Clana!

[Kid Collins]

No, Lana wasn't back in "Identity", therefore, the photos weren't needed.

Clark didn't take any photos out to display them, the stagehands did per director's instructions.

It's the director's way of giving us hints that because this is Lana's arc, the photos around serve the purpose of being --props.

Who cares how they made it to the ep? The fact is that Clark has them displayed for everyone to see when they visit his house.

Like eas said if the only reason the Clana pics were around was to have Irma find them....they coudl've also been tucked away in some drawer and have Irma see them. But that's not how the scene played.




My speculation is that once Lana is gone in 3 more episodes, we might see one photo, if we look real close as the camera pans in a scene, or, we might not see any, at all.:\

Who cares? What matters is in this episode Clark had them out front and center for everyone to see.




Actually, speaking of Pete, does Lana get together with him once Clana ends in a couple of episodes?

Perhaps, if Pete had stayed on the show longer, and Clana ended back in S3 [when it should have], they could have introduced Lete to the series!

Bottom line, Clana will be done for good in a few episodes. If there is a S9 (hopefully) maybe Lete could come into play? I would definitely enjoy Lete after Clana is done of course.:)

Lana deserves to be happy after Clana ends! I believe Lete will help immensely in easing Lana's pain after the aftermath of Clana!

If TPTB wanted Lana to end up with Pete in this show, then those 3 years that Pete was around they would've hinted at SOMETHING brewing between them.

But NO it was Chloe that Pete was jonesing for. Even when he came back in Hero, it was STILL Chloe that Pete had feelings for.

Lana will not end up with Pete in this rendition of SV.

[Mickey_Bickey]

If TPTB wanted Lana to end up with Pete in this show, then those 3 years that Pete was around they would've hinted at SOMETHING brewing between them.

But NO it was Chloe that Pete was jonesing for. Even when he came back in Hero, it was STILL Chloe that Pete had feelings for.

Lana will not end up with Pete in this rendition of SV.

So Lana doesn't end up with Pete or Clark in SV? Darn!:lol: No Clana or Lete!:(;)

[ginnyfan]

Who took the picture of them at the picnic? They were alone if I remember well.

Maybe it was the horse. Who knows.

:rotfl:

Maybe Chloe took it as evidence in case Clark tried to deny that he and Lana were sneaking around and dating behind her back.

Or maybe it was one of Lana's many stalkers.

[hero`s passion]

I just can`t stand them together, I mean I don`t like Lana at all, but I don`t hate her, but when they are together as clana I think I`m starting to hate them both!!!! It`s just SO snotty!!!)))

[Kid Collins]

So Lana doesn't end up with Pete or Clark in SV? Darn!:lol: No Clana or Lete!:(;)

I never liked Pete. He was an annoying little ****. And he was even more annoying in Hero.

I'd rather have Lana be alone than end up with Pete. I bet that's what most Chloe fans feel about being Jimmy. Pete and Jimmy were/are the most annoying characters in this show, imho.

[hero`s passion]

I never liked Pete. He was an annoying little ****. And he was even more annoying in Hero.

I'd rather have Lana be alone than end up with Pete. I bet that's what most Chloe fans feel about being Jimmy. Pete and Jimmy were/are the most annoying characters in this show, imho.
Pete is SV`s huge mistake as for me....he was very Annoying!... but what`s wrong with Jimmy? I like him sometimes)))) not everyone should be heros in that show, that doesn`t mean that they are bad, imho:)))))

[Tinyeppy]

I'm so tired of Clana that I didn't see season 7 because I was tired of seeing it.

This episode there was still some reminace of Clana and I almost hit the screen and puked again when Irma give Lana "Clana" hope. Teenage Love Has Got To Go!

Lana has changed and she isn't the same sweet girl Clark loved she a women of the world now & she done some things and Clark has to realize she not the same person he once loved and she's turned different in his eyes & move else where and then Lana has to come back and see the BOND that Lois & Clark will deveolp and realize Lois is the "one" of Clark. That's where the friendship can start. I don't think Lois will like Lana around to much when she decides to start dating Cark.

That can't happen until L&C have a solid relationship something that Clana NEVER was in the 1st place.

Besides doesn't Lana marry some other guy & she name's here kid Clark in the comics. Whatever Girl! JUST MOVE ON......

OVER CLANA, BRING ON CLOIS :)

[hero`s passion]

I'm so tired of Clana that I didn't see season 7 because was over it.

This episode there was still some reminace of Clana and I almost hit the screen and puked again when Irma give Lana "Clana" hope. Teenage Love Has Got To Go! I'm so over Clana.

Lana has changed and she isn't the same sweet girl Clark loved she a women of the world now & she done some things and Clark has to realize she not the same person he once loved and she's turned different in his eyes & move else where and Lana has to come back and see the BOND that Lois & Clark will deveolp and realize Lois is the "one" of Clark. That's where the friendship can start. I don't Lois will like Lana around to much when she decides to start dating Cark. That can't happen until L&C have a solid relationship something that Clana NEVER was in the 1st place.

OVER CLANA, BRING ON CLOIS :)
Oh, YES!!!!!:D

[ginnyfan]

I never liked Pete. He was an annoying little ****. And he was even more annoying in Hero.

I'd rather have Lana be alone than end up with Pete. I bet that's what most Chloe fans feel about being Jimmy. Pete and Jimmy were/are the most annoying characters in this show, imho.

*HORRIFIED GASP*

I adore Pete! He was such a comfort to Chloe and a great friend to both Chloe and Clark. Just because the writers don't know what to do with Pete when he has his own episodes and therefore turn him into a jealous a$$... I'm not going to dismiss how wonderful Pete is the rest of the time.

I guess Pete was right that being compared to Clark was like being on the dark side of the moon. Pete and Jimmy don't fair very well in those comparisons. :(

Personally, although I loved the Pete/Lana happy greeting in "Hero," I don't blame the show for inventing a french art school version of Pete Ross in "Apocalypse." Neither Pete nor Lana have ever seemed remotely interested in one another. It was clear that between Chloe and Lana, Chloe was Pete's choice for both himself and Clark. :( Poor Pete. *sigh*

The writer's could have done so much better with Pete. Alas.

So um... what are the people who actually like/tolerate Clana hoping to see in the upcoming episodes?

I hope to see a hearty laugh between Clark and Lana. Visits to old haunts. :D I voted for the graveyard. Someone else said the loft window... I guess at sunset would be too cheesy.

Trailer talk!

In the trailer after "Legion" it looked like Clark and Lana WERE at the loft window for a moment.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I never liked Pete. He was an annoying little ****. And he was even more annoying in Hero.

I'd rather have Lana be alone than end up with Pete. I bet that's what most Chloe fans feel about being Jimmy. Pete and Jimmy were/are the most annoying characters in this show, imho.

Gee, and I would have thought you would have said Lois!:lol:

You're growing on me, Kid!!;)

In all seriousness though, the writers didn't do a good job with Pete's character. Although I do like Jimmy.

[ClarksGal]

I thought it looked like they still love each other, but it wasn't as angsty as usual. They seemed more like exes who were trying to be friends. The way they interacted didn't bother me at all.

I did not like that Lana is supposedly going to be rememebered for so much more than her relationship to Clark. But, I haven't seen what the rest of her plot line is. If she truly becomes the insect queen, or whatever, then I guess I can understand why that would be true.

[clinh83]

Lois have no connection..no vibe & definitely noooooo chemistry whatsoever!!! Lois should have never been in Smallville in the first place!!! Clark & Lana have that special bond, connection & extremely hot chemistry..Lois should have played Clarks Aunt

http://i36.tinypic.com/5ckhh5.jpg

[margarita_salt]

I really liked Lana in this eppy. She was grown up and told Clark what he needed to hear. Hooray for that!:p

[alejandrita439]

they love each other..
but i dont think in the romantic way...

maybe we will see that in the future episodes :)

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

Lois have no connection..no vibe & definitely noooooo chemistry whatsoever!!! Lois should have never been in Smallville in the first place!!! Clark & Lana have that special bond, connection & extremely hot chemistry..Lois should have played Clarks Aunt

http://i36.tinypic.com/5ckhh5.jpg

ouch....that's a bit harsh on lois. Sounds like someone is Jealous a bit of Clois right now.

[Violet-Shadow]

I think that Clark is dealing with lingering feelings for Lana but I don't think that he loves her. However, I think Lana might still love Clark. Something about this episode made me feel that this is the case.

[F..l]

I hope NOT!! Clark is fall in love to Lois :) :) lana is past ;) ...

[skye4376]

i pray that clark does not go back with lana. if he does then i say that he needs to grow up.

[CLanaF23]

ok they totally still love each other. i dont think they ever stopped. like everytime you think its really over. now they have closure...its never really over..i just think thats clana. if things were different or if lana was more selfish they would be together. but i love how lana is with clark she really believes in him.

CLANA <3

[smallvillefreak24]

this episode was good with them they shouldn't have revisited their romance and had the kryptonite pull them apart super lana is garbage

when she came back it seemed like they could be allies but NOOOOO angst city

[CloisShipper]

I think Clark found comfort in familarity rather than loved Lana.

[Aficionado]

I think the Clana ship has sailed even Tom and Kristin seemed quite bored with it, let's face it, lingering looks will only take you so far.
They were never happy in the relationship even when they were together as in season 7. He has much more fun with Lois, all in all it's a much more rounded relationship evolving as it did from friendship to romance whereas with Lana there was a lot of adulation involved, at least on Clark's part with respect to Lana.

[Lucy222]

I think the Clana ship has sailed even Tom and Kristin seemed quite bored with it, let's face it, lingering looks will only take you so far.
They were never happy in the relationship even when they were together as in season 7. He has much more fun with Lois, all in all it's a much more rounded relationship evolving as it did from friendship to romance whereas with Lana there was a lot of adulation involved, at least on Clark's part with respect to Lana.

ITA. I don´t know if Tom and Kristin were bored with it but, personally, the Clana relationship has always been the most boring to me. On the other hand, even when I didn´t expect to see one day LnC together as a couple, I was fine with that because I enjoyed watching them. Sometimes there was drama, other times banter. But it was never boring IMO. They were/are capable of keeping a balance between different emotions very well, and they have great chemistry in all the situations.

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I think Clark found comfort in familarity rather than loved Lana.

That´s what I thought when Lana came back in Bride. He kind of mixed those two things (familiarity with love). That´s why it´s so dangerous meeting with and ex (if you don´t want anything to happen).

I think Lana will always be Clark´s first love and I think he connects Lana to his own teens, when all was more innocent and simpler. I don´t think it was a coincidence he going to the DP when Lana left. She represents his own life in Smallville with his parents when he was more protected and felt safer because of his parents.

Just my two cents.

[smallvillefreak24]

i kind of feel like because smallville put so much emphasis on lana and clark loved her so deeply that i can never really accept clois its like she will always be his second choice they always make clana out to be the love to end all loves. I get lois loving clark but its like i can't see him loving someone else. someone convince me please

[Aficionado]

I don't know if I can convince you but ask yourself this, what level of enjoyment did you actually get out of the Clark/Lana relationship, was it mostly pleasant viewing for you or was it mostly "interruptus" and no "coitus" to quote Lois. Initially I enjoyed it because it seemed heartfelt and genuine and I still believe that Clark did love Lana not just as an adolescent thing, as others would posit, but with a deep, abiding love, having said that a person can have more than one great love in one's life. Lana and Clark's relationship always felt lopsided, either too much or too little, the passion, such as it was, always went unstated and even when they were together it never felt complete.
Right now even though Lois still doesn't know Clark's secret and he still harbours fears of ever revealing it to her, there is an unforced easiness to their relationship an easiness which was mostly absent from the angst ridden fest which was Clana. I think that beyond the myth and the inevitability of them ending up together is what fans appreciate about Clois. It's fun, it's playful, it's tender, there is a give and take there and a genuine appreciation of who they are regardless of what secrets might be lurking. Lana never truly trusted Clark and she had ample reasons not to do so but this lack of trust totally hampered the development of their relationship into something lasting and meaningful. She discovered his secret covertly, it was never shared by Clark willingly, inevitably this deception, which I understand was borne out of frustration, was not a great cornerstone on which to build a relationship that could last regardless of what happened later in season 8.