Chloe remembering Clark's Secret - All Discussion

[Clana_4ever2005]

Chloe remembers the secret!

[kal-el returns]

Now i'm a bit confused...so she still knows clark's secret??

[ktina]

But she doesn't remember NOT knowing, meaning she doesn't know Clark took it from her.

[Chlarkislove]

I think it's awesome that she does.

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But she doesn't remember NOT knowing, meaning she doesn't know Clark took it from her.

I think that part sucks and it's a writer cop out.

[Mischael12]

yes

[Aloof]

I was wondering that too.

[rebecavaldez]

Yes!!
I love it!
Chloe not knowing his secret made her kind of stupid.

[JDS2930]

Yep she does. :)

[attitudejc]

clark should tell her or else its going to come bite him in the butt later

[Krypton935]

Heck YES!!! I am soooooo happy!!!!!! I knew she couldn't forget forever!!!

[tyson08]

But she doesn't remember NOT knowing, meaning she doesn't know Clark took it from her.

I have a feeling she might find out down the line from someone other than Clark and that could cause some major issues. This could be that factor they use for Chloe defending Davis or siding with him over Clark.

[Hopefulsuicide]

can i ask a question? in terms of writing, what was the point in removing it? i mean i assumed if they were going to do something that huge it would be for a really good reason and would be essential to some big plot... but it wasnt essential to this plot at all

ah this all supports my 'they were just trying to get the fans talking' theory

[Clana_4ever2005]

It was just part of the three episode arc of Abyss-Bride-Legion and it got resolved at the end, I guess...

[Clana4Life]

How does Chloe remember? Clark had Jor-El erase her memories of him, now she ups and remembers. I think they could have written this better. I mean it's good that Chloe remembers, but now she and Clark won't have a "good talk" about him having her memories wiped.

[Kid Collins]

That was great! And the look on Clark's face when he found out that Chloe remembers was classic.

Suck it Clark! :lol:

[Darth Pipes]

I can see Chloe not remembering Clark being the one to take her powers, she was unconsious.

[Storm45]

But she doesn't remember NOT knowing, meaning she doesn't know Clark took it from her.

So what was the point of Abyss ? There should be a follow-up...

[latingirl]

I am so confused between abyss and legion... Jor-el eraser the memory or just blocked, what he did????

[TECHWON]

i think because of brainac her memories of his secret wasn't totally erased

[morena]

That was great! And the look on Clark's face when he found out that Chloe remembers was classic.

Suck it Clark! :lol:


I have not seen the episode, please, can you describe the scene?

[luvinChlark]

Yay! I'm so glad she remembers! :D


But she doesn't remember NOT knowing, meaning she doesn't know Clark took it from her.


This part stinks though, she has no idea that Clark actually took them. I'm hoping he's not of the hook in the later episodes, but I doubt it...

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Wonderful! Now she can go back to obligating herself 24/7 as Clark's sidekick, instead of pursuing her own interests or career again.

Life is so grand for Chloe Sullivan.

[sconte66]

Actually...maybe she never forgot and Brainiac just pretended to make it look like Chloe forgot everything....:confused::rolleyes:

[dru-zod2501]

and no consequences for Clark again, how lucky :rolleyes:

Chloe deserved better than that

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'm not so concerned about that as I am about the purpose of taking her memory. If they were going to restore her memory two episodes later with nothing happening in betwee, what was the point?

The only thing I can think of right now is that Chloe might find out and it will put a wedge between Clark and her, possibly pushing her closer to Davis.

[Liquid-Prince]

There is no need to push her closer to Davis. The purpose of that relationship has been fulfilled.

[morena]

So what was the point of Abyss ? There should be a follow-up...

to remind us how beautiful is Chlark
:rotfl:

[Krypton935]

well like chloe said - it would take a force more powerful than brainiac to make her forget! :D

[Clana4Life]

well like chloe said - it would take a force more powerful than brainiac to make her forget! :D

I figured Jor-El was a force more powerful than Brainiac. It was pointless to have her forget for just two episodes. What a waste!:mad:

[susangail]

What a relief.

[davidbrenton]

Whatever, plot device to get her memory back. who cares.

[shamville]

Maybe something rokk did. Like show care about chloe.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Wonderful! Now she can go back to obligating herself 24/7 as Clark's sidekick, instead of pursuing her own interests or career again.

Life is so grand for Chloe Sullivan.

wonderful! now she can go back to feeling like she has an important purpose in the world instead of just being a mind warped mrs olsen

[Kid Collins]

I have not seen the episode, please, can you describe the scene?


Clark walked in on Chloe at the Talon when she's packing to see Jimmy at the hospital.

And she's all smiling and Chloe brings up Brainiac, etc and Clark starts smiling and feeling around to asking what exactly she remembers like anything special about him. Complete with cheesy smile.

And Chloe tells him she remembers his secret. She could never forget that. :D

But she didn't call him out on wiping out her memory. I don't think she remembers that part. So Clark got away from getting Kryptonite shoved up his a$$.

[Bella882]

Clark needs to own up to his mistake. He looked guilty in that last Chlark scene. And she gave him the perfect excuse to come clean. What the hell was he waiting for? Until he fesses up and honors that alleged moral code he just proclaimed to the Legion, about standing up for the greater good, truth, justice and all that spiel, then he's still a guilty hypocritical prick.

[haydenclaireheroes]

tell you truth if she did not get her memory back it would not be the show it is today because this whole show is about clark journey. think about clark's journey who was always there to help him when ever he needed it. clark's sidekick. like batman has robin. clark has chloe.

[morena]

Clark walked in on Chloe at the Talon when she's packing to see Jimmy at the hospital.

And she's all smiling and Chloe brings up Brainiac, etc and Clark starts smiling and feeling around to asking what exactly she remembers like anything special about him. Complete with cheesy smile.

And Chloe tells him she remembers his secret. She could never forget that. :D

But she didn't call him out on wiping out her memory. I don't think she remembers that part. So Clark got away from getting Kryptonite shoved up his a$$.
:rotfl:
thank you

[harryandginnyfanatic]

wonderful! now she can go back to feeling like she has an important purpose in the world instead of just being a mind warped mrs olsen

So the so called former "dream" of hers no longer matters because she's made an impact on the world?

Fair enough.

[Hopefulsuicide]

i was under the impression making an impact on the world WAS her dream...

[Khyla]

In the first place, it has been a huge misconception that Clark had Jor-El take away CHloe's memories of him. Ppl have even been mad at Clark for doing that, which is an opinion I never shared.

BRAINIAC, and ONLY BRAINIAC is the one who replaced Chloe's memories with Kryptonian code.

The only thing Jor-El was able to do was to translate the code back into human memories for her and HE EVEN WARNED CLARK that it was all he could do, and that Brainiac was still there and highly unpredictable and a danger.
Clark obviously had something else on his mind as he completely missed that part of the conversation with Jor-El. All he heard was that Chloe's memories could be translated back, NOT that she could be cured of the Brainiac infection, but somehow he misinterpreted it, and Jor-El complied with Clark's request to leave the memories about himself untranslated back. I don't have a clue why Clark would think Jor-El had cured her. That's the puzzling part.

[Dannyblue1]

In the first place, it has been a huge misconception that Clark had Jor-El take away CHloe's memories of him. Ppl have even been mad at Clark for doing that, which is an opinion I never shared.

Actually, Clark outright and specifically asked Jor-El to not return some of Chloe's memories. In fact, here is the dialog.

Clark: Chloe never would have gotten hurt if she wasn't trying to protect me.

Jor-El: I tried to warn you of the danger in sharing your true identity.

Clark: Now that I'm taking more risks... ...it's even more dangerous for her. Chloe deserves a life free from the burden of my secret. When you restore her memory, I don't want her to remember a anything about Krypton... or my abilities.

So he did do what some people are mad at him for doing.

[Hopefulsuicide]

most people have said 'took away her memories' because it's simply easier than constantly saying 'agreed not to translate back her memories from kryptonian code'... but we all know what we mean

[Khyla]

^ I was answering the question posted, "How did CHloe get her memories of Clark back?"
Since the memories were replaced with code under Brainiac's influence, now that Brainiac is gone, her memories are no longer under his influence. Does that make it clearer? :)

[Clana4Life]

I don't know what the point of having her memories erased was in the first place. Where were the writers going with this story? It just seems so pointless now.

[Karafan1]

I'm happy she got back her memories of who Clark really is..I wonder if she'll ever find out that Clark and Jor-El erase them..

[unfocused]

Wonderful! Now she can go back to obligating herself 24/7 as Clark's sidekick, instead of pursuing her own interests or career again.

Life is so grand for Chloe Sullivan.

:rotfl:

[Iluvgreen]

I'm screaming with joy!!!!!! How could the writers tease us like that!!!!? It gave me the biggest scare EVER!!!!!

[redeem147]

I think I was right in the first place - Brainiac was hiding in the missing memories, and now that he's gone her memories are restored.

[Just Another Guy]

Well, I'm happy now.

[BadToad]

I'm not sure what the point of erasing her memory was if she was just going to have them restored a few eps later, and I'm not sure what the point of restoring them was if they weren't going to have Chloe and Clark have an honest conversation about what he did, and why, and what she felt about that.

Makes the whole thing a waste of time, IMO.

But I'm glad she has them back. I'm not a fan of mindwipes and memory losses.

[Cellist]

My first reaction to this was that the writers saw the negative reaction of the mind wipe by fans and tried to fix it in this episode. Notice how the "Oh, I remember your secret now" is just sort of tacked on to the end of the scene.

[rehana/chole]

Chloe remembers the secret!
of course she remember :eek:, if u look at amm abyss u notice blood leek form chole and secound brainaic:mad: took over her . i am glad she remember :) but did anyone else notic rokk was concern or that the legion new abt lana,lois an jimmy not chole which mean in future she is not married 2 jimmmy she was supose 2 be death it ,mean they just rewriten superman story line. even if she death they had no history of her y she married jimmy an was clark bf so he killed her but legion change the future . chole is back plus lighten boy said maybe she change her name an rokk said she the reson he became superman but they save her so the future is diffrent so i guess sv write just puted chole in comic book:eek: fa good . i just wish:rolleyes::rotfl: jimmy an chole split and she marry some from future like rokk anybody but jimmy . :rotfl:

[unfocused]

My first reaction to this was that the writers saw the negative reaction of the mind wipe by fans and tried to fix it in this episode. Notice how the "Oh, I remember your secret now" is just sort of tacked on to the end of the scene.

Would that be possible? To go back and re film an episode after seeing the fan reaction? It seems possible in the time frame between the airing of Abyss and the airing of Legion, but could/would they do that?

[rehana/chole]

^ I was answering the question posted, "How did CHloe get her memories of Clark back?"
Since the memories were replaced with code under Brainiac's influence, now that Brainiac is gone, her memories are no longer under his influence. Does that make it clearer? :)


ur smart i like ur style sa:). and u story 2 .keep up

[Becc]

Would that be possible? To go back and re film an episode after seeing the fan reaction? It seems possible in the time frame between the airing of Abyss and the airing of Legion, but could/would they do that?

I don't think that's possible at all. This was the PS3 intention to give Chloe back her memories all along. What I would like to know is how did taking away Chloe's memories and restoring them to her 2 eps later serve as an effective plot device? What was the point apart from upsetting a lot of the fans?

[Veilleuse]

It's interesting to me that Chloe apparently does remember the past few days, marrying Jimmy, the monster abducting her and then getting possessed by Brainiac. However, she's not aware that in those few days she hadn't remembered Clark's secret? You'd think there'd be a quite noticeable gap there when she didn't know the secret, between pre-"Abyss" Chloe's memories and now post-Brainiac memories. I don't know, seems weird.

To be honest, I think she actually is aware of those few days she didn't remember Clark's secret and possibly even figured out what Clark had done. Maybe I was just seeing things or maybe she was just upset about Jimmy in the hospital / being Brainiac's vessel, but Chloe almost seemed somewhat distant, even a little stand-offish towards Clark at the end of "Legion". She was friendly enough, but she just seemed.... off to me.

Hypothetically speaking, if Chloe is aware of what Clark did or at least is aware of that memory gap the past few days, it would be interesting why she felt the need to keep that secret from Clark. Maybe she didn't say anything because she might understand why he did what he did (Chloe mentioned at the reception she felt like she'd been carrying this weight and it's suddenly felt lifted, "like [she] could let go") - even if she isn't happy about it - but doesn't want to make an issue of it. Which would be typical Chloe, burying her true feelings around Clark. At least doesn't want to make an issue of it yet.

[susangail]

Why wouldn't Chloe seem a teeny bit distant at the moment? She's married to someone else who's lying in a coma far away....

[unfocused]

I don't think that's possible at all. This was the PS3 intention to give Chloe back her memories all along. What I would like to know is how did taking away Chloe's memories and restoring them to her 2 eps later serve as an effective plot device? What was the point apart from upsetting a lot of the fans?

It's actually very possible to film a single episode within 2 months... I was asking if the PTB would do it.

As for your plot device opinion, well I'm just going to wait and see if it does have any effect. Let's hope it does, I'm sure Chloe fans don't want to see a passive Chloe when she finds out about the memory wipe. Saying the memory wipe was pointless would be like saying Chloe wouldn't care.

When Chloe finds out, she WILL care, and the effectiveness of the "plot device" will be revealed through her actions.

[Kevin24]

I think the point of the memory wipe is to show that Clark does what he think is best no matter what. Chloe even says it in her speech at the end and that no matter what she would understand his reasoning behind the decisions.

[SnowBird]

Chloe isn't acting quite right to me. I think Brainiac gave the information about Clark's secret to her. I don't think he is completely out of her as there were chunks out of the Brainiac ball. Therefore, she remembers Clark's secret because Brainiac is still infecting her. The look on Clark's face might be him wondering how is she remembering his secret as we are all wondering about that question.

[Becc]

It's actually very possible to film a single episode within 2 months... I was asking if the PTB would do it.

As for your plot device opinion, well I'm just going to wait and see if it does have any effect. Let's hope it does, I'm sure Chloe fans don't want to see a passive Chloe when she finds out about the memory wipe. Saying the memory wipe was pointless would be like saying Chloe wouldn't care.

When Chloe finds out, she WILL care, and the effectiveness of the "plot device" will be revealed through her actions.

When said unlikely I meant that the PTB would not change something already written and probably filmed because of fans negative opinion, it would be nice but I don't think TV works that way and if that were the case the Clana drama would have been over years ago.

I hope you are right and Chloe does find out what Clark did and there are consequences.

[TomWellingFan15]

Ok guys i dont get it i thought that when clark took chloe to the fortress that he restre all her memories ut the ones of him and his abilities... And now all of sudden there are back..... Can some1 explain that to me...

['Tonio09]

I was thinking that same thing!

[Black Panda]

The look on Clark's face might be him wondering how is she remembering his secret as we are all wondering about that question.
He's probably wondering if he should fess up to being an idiot.

I think Brainiac was influencing her all season, sometimes more heavy handedly than others. I very much hope the writers have Chloe slowly realize the extent of that.

They do say she remembers up to Bride, and while I might suspect some of that to be spotty, it's easy enough to realize she should remember that Brainiac was trying to edit out her memories of Clark's secret in Abyss.

So, it would be natural that she think Clark is thinking of that. However she was unconcious for the mindwipe, so she wouldn't remember that.

Hopefully that will come back up. It's not like Clark didn't send out postcards saying "check out my nifty gift" to everyone and their postman.

[unex||den||adel]

this is my thoughts.

...

erm...

u know, at first i read this thread, i think i know what happen.

but

...

hold,..

eiyh...

no sense at all.

yes, u r right! the one that beeing wipe out is chloe, not chloiac. so , when brainiac gone, the chloe should be just like after abyss, with no memories abt clark secrets.

* scratch head**

im gonna leave it to someone else to unsolve this mystery.

im out!

[noblue4u]

WRONG THREAD. Move this to episode discussion, please. As there's no actual spoiler about this, this is not the place to discuss it as there are many who have not seen the episode yet.

[Diego*Chloe]

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I hope you are right and Chloe does find out what Clark did and there are consequences.


Could that be the epiphany she has in Hex??? that could be cool and will create some major problems.....perfect for a season finale or series final whatever ;)

[ginnyfan]

I'm glad she remembers. The execution writing wise was pretty lame. I hope this isn't the end of that plot point. Otherwise it is pointless.

[devilneedsaride]

It's interesting to me that Chloe apparently does remember the past few days, marrying Jimmy, the monster abducting her and then getting possessed by Brainiac. However, she's not aware that in those few days she hadn't remembered Clark's secret? You'd think there'd be a quite noticeable gap there when she didn't know the secret, between pre-"Abyss" Chloe's memories and now post-Brainiac memories. I don't know, seems weird.

Honestly, I think this is just one of those big honkin plot holes that SV is known for. That was the first thing that occurred to me too once it was made clear that she didn't remember Clark taking her memories, but I'm more inclined to believe that it's an oversight on the writer's part rather than a clue as to her deeper knowledge.

I'm glad she has her memories back, but the not remembering Clark taking them feels like a giant cop-out to me. My guess? She will find out somewhere down the road, react in a way that is hopefully satisfactory, and that will serve to be the purpose behind the two episode mindwipe.

I also don't think the restoration was in reaction to the fans. You can tell by the way the writer's dealt with Chloe's lack of memory that they never intended for it to be permanent. Had they planned on keeping her ignorant, they would be immediately answered some of the basic questions that were brought up, such as: Does Chloe remember her own powers? Does Chloe remember the Justice League? Does Chloe just have giant holes in her memory or were her memories rewritten so that they made sense with a powerless Clark? I could go on for a while, but the point is that they made no effort to establish the new basic rules of Ignorant Chloe, and imo that glossing over indicates that they didn't think it was that important because they weren't planning on keeping her that way.

[Rocky]

Same, so infamous didn't the spoiler say, these reporters will ask chloe, hows it being bff with the red and blue blur, it also said it will bring her memories back about his secret... this makes no sense

[Uzzy83]

Same, so infamous didn't the spoiler say, these reporters will ask chloe, hows it being bff with the red and blue blur, it also said it will bring her memories back about his secret... this makes no sense


no the spolier didnt say it will bring her memories back about his secret, it said "They ask what it's been like to keep his secret for so long, which may imply that her memories are returned by this point."

[unfocused]

When said unlikely I meant that the PTB would not change something already written and probably filmed because of fans negative opinion, it would be nice but I don't think TV works that way and if that were the case the Clana drama would have been over years ago.

I hope you are right and Chloe does find out what Clark did and there are consequences.

Consequences? Lol. yeah, like Chloe ending her friendship with Clark, then leaving the show. That would be a welcome consequence.

[herolee10]

well..lets put it this way.

I'm assuming that when Jor el took away Chloe's memories of Clark, that those memories itself must have been stored back in the FOS somehow. Now when Brainiac affected the FOS and downloaded all of the information within the FOS, he must have absorbed Chloe's memories as well. Now when Brainiac was taken out of Chloe, her memories must have been placed back in her system.

That's the only way I can think of it.

[hanna1804]

well..lets put it this way.

I'm assuming that when Jor el took away Chloe's memories of Clark, that those memories itself must have been stored back in the FOS somehow. Now when Brainiac affected the FOS and downloaded all of the information within the FOS, he must have absorbed Chloe's memories as well. Now when Brainiac was taken out of Chloe, her memories must have been placed back in her system.

That's the only way I can think of it.

Good explanation, that must be it ;)

[Cromartiefan]

In the first place, it has been a huge misconception that Clark had Jor-El take away CHloe's memories of him. Ppl have even been mad at Clark for doing that, which is an opinion I never shared.

BRAINIAC, and ONLY BRAINIAC is the one who replaced Chloe's memories with Kryptonian code.

Oh thank god someone else actually watches the show and pays attention.

[marcella]

I think it made Abyss pointless

[Timester]

My theory? Brainiac's failsafe. Doomsday is still around, after all.

[shy175223]

WRONG THREAD. Move this to episode discussion, please. As there's no actual spoiler about this, this is not the place to discuss it as there are many who have not seen the episode yet.

I agree this shouldn't be in the spoilers section because it's NOT a spoiler.:rolleyes:

[SuperJ77]

I saw legion, and thought it was awsome. My question is how does chloe now remember Clark's secret? Does it have to do with brainiac or because he was removing memories it happend to be suppressed? any ideas?

[smallvillefreak24]

i think it has something to do with the fortress damage

i knew! that they were gonna restore it how could they not
but they better address this again like chloe finding out that he did that or something otherwise it was kinda pointless

[SupermanRox]

well..lets put it this way.

I'm assuming that when Jor el took away Chloe's memories of Clark, that those memories itself must have been stored back in the FOS somehow. Now when Brainiac affected the FOS and downloaded all of the information within the FOS, he must have absorbed Chloe's memories as well. Now when Brainiac was taken out of Chloe, her memories must have been placed back in her system.

That's the only way I can think of it.

Good explanation. Makes perfect sense. Just like a computer.

[topping82]

Honestly, I think it makes perfect sense. The way I see it is that the purpose of Chloe losing part of her memories was to get Braniac to the fortress so he could take over.

Braniac knew Clark would do something this stupid (like go to Jor-El, and have him restore only part of Chloe's memories), which is why he started taking Chloe's memories to begin with. It was all part of his plan. He wanted Clark to take his host to the fortress.

Clark was mistaken in thinking Jor-El had defeated Brainiac, which I don't understand why because Jor-El warned him that he could only transfer kryptonian code back into her memories. He didn't heal her. Braniac never left her completely. I believe Braniac was able to hide out in the part of her memories Clark didn't restore, so when Braniac was really defeated, that aspect of Chloe's memories were completely returned because they were never gone to begin with.

This is how I saw it from the beginning, so I'm surprised why so many people are confused by this. I never thought Chloe was re-infected when she entered the fortress, only finally completely take over by Braniac. Braniac never left her, which is why Doomsday came for her in "Bride."

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well..lets put it this way.

I'm assuming that when Jor el took away Chloe's memories of Clark, that those memories itself must have been stored back in the FOS somehow. Now when Brainiac affected the FOS and downloaded all of the information within the FOS, he must have absorbed Chloe's memories as well. Now when Brainiac was taken out of Chloe, her memories must have been placed back in her system.

That's the only way I can think of it.

It's a good explanation, but I still don't think it went down this way. I really believe her memories were never gone to begin with.

[costas22]

They didn't give her the memories back because of the fan backlash.That was the point all along.In the course of a season a series can have these little do and undos.Personally i believe that her memory of Clark's secret remained inside Brainiac's ooze at the end of Abyss.So at the end of Bride when she is repossesed the secret is back inside her brain even if she is taken over by Brainiac.At the exorcism Clark never asked the Legion to keep any memories out did he?

[bobsuncorp]

I think it made Abyss pointless

Totally. I saw Abyss as Chloe's swansong. An episode dedicated to a much loved character, because although she was in the following episode, she was no longer Clark's confidante and sidekick. When she "rescued" Clark from being removed from her memory by dragging him into another memory we saw how desperate she was to protect how much he meant to her.

I fully expected to have Chloe leave the show, but for Allison Mack to remain playing another character This is exactly what happened with the character of Fred in Angel. She literally died and was reborn as another character. The actress still gets work but the show has an injection of "new blood" (no pun intended) and the shake up that always comes from killing off a main character. They even had a closing sequence that showed Fred leaving home - her whole life ahead of her, full of hope - and knowing the horrible fate in her future made the whole scene very touching.

I felt that touched with Abyss (this has suddenly turned into a rant about that episode - apologies) because I honestly thought that Chloe had died, but didn't have to feel guilty knowing that AM still had a job, and probably one that she welcomed as actors always love playing different roles whenever they can.

So to find out that Brainiac was dealt with in a single episode (although to be fair to have him and Doomsday would be a bit much) was indeed saying that Abyss was pointless in that regard. I can't help but wonder if there was a gap in filming the three episodes (I can never work out the filming schedule based on the broadcast schedule) and the creators heard some fan's opinions that Clark needs a confidante and so restored Chloe.

So having moaned about all of the above, I will now close by contradicting myself because I am one of those fans who think Clark needs Chloe to fulfill that role at this stage in his life.

Confused?

[wb-superman]

I think the Writers messed up on that part or just trying to hint Chloe's memory isn't fully wiped out.

[Iluvgreen]

I think they were stored at the fortress and Chlotiac totally sucked it of it's knowlege. Or maybe the memories were just suppressed, and after she wasn't super smart anymore, she returned to normal.

[ms.c.]

I'm glad Chloe remembers Clark's secret, but her memory is still messed up if she doesn't remember not knowing his secret when she went thru with the wedding. Clark needs to confess and Chlark need to talk about it.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

Thank God She knows his secret again!!!!! I knew it was not lost forever!

[Vindellavon]

I think she never forgot, but that they were hidden and emerged after Brainiac was exorcised out.

[Black Panda]

You can tell by the way the writer's dealt with Chloe's lack of memory that they never intended for it to be permanent. Had they planned on keeping her ignorant, they would be immediately answered some of the basic questions that were brought up, such as: Does Chloe remember her own powers? Does Chloe remember the Justice League? Does Chloe just have giant holes in her memory or were her memories rewritten so that they made sense with a powerless Clark? I could go on for a while, but the point is that they made no effort to establish the new basic rules of Ignorant Chloe, and imo that glossing over indicates that they didn't think it was that important because they weren't planning on keeping her that way.
Not to mention the fact that they took the memories in an episode that made it a reflection of an imoral act, and gave them back in an episode that emphasize the question of what Chloe's role in history was.

I'm convinced they are underlining just how important that history is over and over again deliberately.

[Minamostaza]

Thank God! Chloe remembers Clar's secret now.

[Bizarrolover]

Consequences? Lol. yeah, like Chloe ending her friendship with Clark, then leaving the show. That would be a welcome consequence.


Lol! I was about to say the same thing.

Chloe also has to deal with the consequences of what she did (killing that man) in Clark's name. I'm sure Clark will be very happy to hear about that, too. That will certainly be the end of their friendship, but if I know this show (one can never be sure), they outcome will be exactly the opposite: a melodramatic scene where both Clark and Chloe confessing their sins and then hugging while a cheesy song plays on the background.

[umm]

But she doesn't remember NOT knowing, meaning she doesn't know Clark took it from her.

I hope he doesn't confess, cos that is one thing Chloe would never forgive him!!!! If he has any brain, he'll keep a lid on it and convince Lana to do the same, and seeing how she pretty much told him she wouldn't ever forgive him if he ever did something like that to her, I am sure Lana will keep that secret gladly!

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Thank God She knows his secret again!!!!! I knew it was not lost forever!

I agree!

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I'm glad she remembers. The execution writing wise was pretty lame. I hope this isn't the end of that plot point. Otherwise it is pointless.

Frankly I am glad we got our old, sane Chloe back with all her memories intact!

[superhippie2000]

i think when briniac took all the info he also took all the info jor el took from chloe. jor el had chloes memories so they were apart of chloe when briniac took them i guess they went back to where they belonged.

[Bizarrolover]

I just watched the episode again and this is what I think it happened. Jor-El never erased Chloe's memories, he said he could translate 'infection' into human memories again. That's when Clark asked him to exclude the memories about his true self from the 'translation'. But those memories remained in brainiac data form inside of Chloe, so when the legion finally exorsized brainiac, her memories about Clark came back. Also, from what I understood from their conversation at the apartment, chloe knows what Clark did (the memory wipe), but she understands he did what he thought right and respects that decision. It's that or she is totally deceiving him. I don't know if it's just me, but she sounded a little off when she said that, a little 'brainiac'.

I think they are linking things slowly. The Legion telling Clark that he should kill Brainiac's host, what Clark said about Chloe trusting the wrong person and Chloe telling Clark to do what is best for the world, not for her. Something tells me that saving her today will bring disastrous consequences for Clark and that's why Rokk warned him to be cafeful in the days to come.

[AndyBear1980]

I was very very glad that Chloe remembered the secret. That was something I really wanted - in any way possible.

Though I am wondering if she remembers Clark trying to erase it? Because she seemed to remember everything else that happened all the way up to the "I Do."

[alejandrita439]

i dont see Abyss pointless, without it,
brainiac wouldnt had infect the fortress and doomsday wouldnt be like a popsicle....

im confused... Did chloe know that clark ereased her memories?

[alejandrita439]

soo... she doesnt know that clark ereased her memories...? :confused:

[mamma long arms]

im just happy that Chloe's memories of Clark's secret are back :D

[Black Panda]

Chloe also has to deal with the consequences of what she did (killing that man)
If she remembered it, that would be interesting. I'd like to see that brought up again. I mean it was pretty obviously Brainiac, and he's been pretty clearly been laid out to be selecting manipulating her, but I don't know that she knows all she thinks she does.

So yeah, let's revisit that too.

[Tatiana]

Ya I think her memories weren't completely erased because somehow Brainiac was still in control of her

[unfocused]

Lol! I was about to say the same thing.

Chloe also has to deal with the consequences of what she did (killing that man) in Clark's name. I'm sure Clark will be very happy to hear about that, too. That will certainly be the end of their friendship, but if I know this show (one can never be sure), they outcome will be exactly the opposite: a melodramatic scene where both Clark and Chloe confessing their sins and then hugging while a cheesy song plays on the background.

Unfortunately, I can picture that happening.

Chloe murdered Sebastian and she does need to own up to it and face her own consequences. She's been keeping this secret because she knows Clark would disapprove, not to mention she'd be tried and convicted of murder charges. I've been wanting Clark and Chloe to sit and have a deep talk about the memory wipe, but I haven't even thought about the murder, which is so much worse than the memory wipe. Now that they both can back eachother against a wall and just let it all loose, I think they should. We haven't had a good verbal lickin' since Oliver gave it to Clark about his "island."

It would definitely be a great discussion. Chloe angry about the memory wipe, Clark angry about the murder, friendship in question. Cue the cheesy music :lol:

[mlauenstein]

Chloe remembers the secret!

We have no evidence of this. All we know is that she remembers _a_ secret.

[rosalba]

^
Exactly!
maybe Chloe doesn't really remember the secret, she thinks she remember but maybe not the real secret. Oh well I'm in denial....I just can believe they wasted awhole episode for nothing!:mad:

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at least we KNOW that Clark did'nt want to share his secret with her anymore...I'm sure he'll find a way to erase it again...come on! is his wedding gift!

[Black Panda]

maybe Chloe doesn't really remember the secret, she thinks she remember but maybe not the real secret.
Clearly she was referring to his secret loathing for pie.

[ColdPlay3r]

of course its 'that' secret, the whole "do wats best for the world" scene kinda gave it away

[Timester]

We have no evidence of this. All we know is that she remembers _a_ secret.

The secret erased was all about Krypton. She remembers Brainiac, therefore she remembers Kal-El.

[Alania]

soo... she doesnt know that clark ereased her memories...? :confused:

Well, what's the point, anyway? Unless if it's to give Clark sage advice in Infamous to not do the same thing with Lois, since she will be aware of everything and probably even talk about feelings with Clark (and i'm sure that mind-wipe will p... cloisers off just a little bit :rolleyes:) i don't see why she ever needs to find that out, once it happened for such short time! But, who knows...

[RedKRules]

I am so happy she knows again ...... Go TEAM CHLARKK!! :D

[Mickey_Bickey]

Thank you. This is exactly how I see it. I honestly don't get why so many people are confused by this. Jor-El NEVER said Chloe was cured of Braniac, so why Clark and much of the audience believed that is very baffling to me.

I truly believe Chloe's memories are completely back because they were never gone to begin with. It's where Braniac was hiding IMO. When Braniac left, her memories were restored. Plain and simple.

Believe it or not mrw66855 sent me into this thread from another Legion thread to read your post about Chloe's memory loss/gain.

It's a good theory. What are your thoughts on the conversation Clark had with Chloe in the aftermath? I felt it was a bit rushed and as Badtoad put it swept under the carpet so to speak. I think considering the size of this storyline this season it deserved a bit more screne time and dialogue between them.

Either way, I'm very happy she remembers his secret again. That's one aspect about Bride I didn't enjoy. It's good to have the "old Chloe" back again.

[Hopefulsuicide]

It's interesting to me that Chloe apparently does remember the past few days, marrying Jimmy, the monster abducting her and then getting possessed by Brainiac. However, she's not aware that in those few days she hadn't remembered Clark's secret? You'd think there'd be a quite noticeable gap there when she didn't know the secret, between pre-"Abyss" Chloe's memories and now post-Brainiac memories. I don't know, seems weird.

To be honest, I think she actually is aware of those few days she didn't remember Clark's secret and possibly even figured out what Clark had done. Maybe I was just seeing things or maybe she was just upset about Jimmy in the hospital / being Brainiac's vessel, but Chloe almost seemed somewhat distant, even a little stand-offish towards Clark at the end of "Legion". She was friendly enough, but she just seemed.... off to me.

Hypothetically speaking, if Chloe is aware of what Clark did or at least is aware of that memory gap the past few days, it would be interesting why she felt the need to keep that secret from Clark. Maybe she didn't say anything because she might understand why he did what he did (Chloe mentioned at the reception she felt like she'd been carrying this weight and it's suddenly felt lifted, "like [she] could let go") - even if she isn't happy about it - but doesn't want to make an issue of it. Which would be typical Chloe, burying her true feelings around Clark. At least doesn't want to make an issue of it yet.

i totally agree, there was something off with the way she was with him, and i couldnt figure out if it was simply because she had just been through so much and needed a break, or if she was needing to figure out some stuff in her head about him

i can't even begin to imagine how i would feel straight after remembering a) knowing the secret and b) having my wedding without those memories, and talking about feeling lighter... it would be confusing and she would need time to figure it out

what i find even more interesting is Clark's behaviour in this scene

many have argued that what he did in Abyss was noble and Supermanly... but if he truly felt what he did was right, he wouldn't feel the need to hide the truth from her... it almost felt like he was too ashamed to tell here... there was an element of relief

[Lazy Boy]

My reaction to Chloe remembering Clark's secret again? Refer to this link:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O3zGKw-Wqhk

[unfocused]

many have argued that what he did in Abyss was noble and Supermanly... but if he truly felt what he did was right, he wouldn't feel the need to hide the truth from her... it almost felt like he was too ashamed to tell here... there was an element of relief

I didn't get the feeling that he kept the memory wipe from her because of his own doubts, but because she'd be angry, she just got out of the most terrifying ordeal of her life, and she still had a lot to deal with, with Jimmy hurt. It seemed to me that he was still disappointed that she knew the secret again. But I guess different people saw that scene in different ways.

[AChloeChick]

My reaction to Chloe remembering Clark's secret again? Refer to this link:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O3zGKw-Wqhk

That's funny. I think a lot of people were feeling that dance!

[Malicieux Toutou]

My theory is this:

Jor-el told Clark he could translate the Kryptonian code corrupting Chloe's mind back into human memories. But since he didn't completely restore her memory, then it stands to reason that he left a small part of the Kryptonian code untranslated. Either that, or he translated it into false human memories. If Jor-El left part of Brainiac inside of Chloe, then this would explain both how Chloe's memory of Clark's secret was restored once Brainiac was completely removed, and why Chloe was so easily taken over by Brainiac once brought to the fortress. But the show leaves things ambiguous, and I doubt they will ever fully explain the mechanics of how it all happened.

[USuperManC]

Thank you for this thread cause I wasn't sure about this, so Chloe does know Clark's secret again 100% right??

[Hopefulsuicide]

I gotta say, as Chloe and Oliver's story progresses, i'm beginning to wonder if Ollie will tell her... maybe even use it to get her more on his side, and show her she can't truly trust Clark

[Dagenspear]

I don't think that's possible at all. This was the PS3 intention to give Chloe back her memories all along. What I would like to know is how did taking away Chloe's memories and restoring them to her 2 eps later serve as an effective plot device? What was the point apart from upsetting a lot of the fans?
It was to get Chloe to marry Jimmy. Because she never would've/could've gone through with it otherwise. Erasing Clark's secret, erased the deep bond and love she feels for him, which would allow her to go through with a marriage to someone she doesn't REALLY love. Only my thoughts though.