The Lectures

[Mischael12]

Why can't we go through one episode without Clark getting some kinda lecture...and with Lana back now...its like they aren't going to stop. I still enjoy this season more than others...I just wish for once people would stop lecturing him.

[biggkoz]

Big dumb alien

[Mischael12]

Its just that it seemed like he was stepping away from that roll. But its like whenever Lana: Warrior Princess is around Clark is just like dur dur...sigh.

[Kreukie]

They're just all setting him up for a life with Lois.

[Mischael12]

Except Clark gets lectured by Lois and Lois generally knows nothing about him being Superman. The others do...sigh...

[lauraforever]

LOL, this will go into the Smallville History Books as THE Lecture Episode!

[Clana4Life]

They're just all setting him up for a life with Lois.

Exactly! :) Also, she was so much lecturing as she was encouraging him to go with his first instinct anyway. Clark didn't want to kill Chloe and Lana just supported him.

[davidbrenton]

NO KIDDING. It was horrible. PS3: NEW RULE - LET Every character think for themselves ALWAYS.

[Deana]

Yeah, the lectures get on my nerves period. I only want to hear them from Martha Kent or another hero who actually knows what he is talking about.

[biggkoz]

Oliver normally does more lecturing I think.

[Kal26]

I never thought I'd be standing up for Lana, and I probably never will again, but that lecture was probably the only thing she's ever said that I liked. Well, except when she said she was leaving.:) I just thought this one wasn't as bad, because with all the Legion members telling Clark he should break his moral code, I think it felt good for him to hear from someone else that he was right. I know from his actions, and the looks he was giving them that he felt that way the whole time, but sometimes it's reassuring to know that your not the only one who believes in you. I'll let this lecture pass, but I'm with the rest of you in that on the whole, I'd like Clark to trust his instincts without being told to by Lana Lang.

[Iluvgreen]

It's just the way she knpows how to talk to him. :lol:

[Mischael12]

Its not so much what they say...but how they say it. Its like they are talking down to him, its like he's a kid whose stuck in the middle and they yank him back and forth.

[cksidekick]

as i recall, Clark grabbed Garth in a "Super Listen Up!" grip and told THEM how it was all gonna go down...he gave the lectures...

Lana simply gave him advice to do as he always does when he asked her a "what if" question...did we really expect her to whisper when she said it? sometimes Clana Hate makes even less sense than Clana...

[kaam]

Oliver normally does more lecturing I think.
I have to agree but only because the writers' make his character do that. Since he is in a role that Clark can relate to in some way, the use that as a segway to lecture Clark. I also hate it when they have to dumb down one character just to make the other one move ahead. This has been happening constantly to Clark, every time Lana shows up. Oliver has been dumbed down so Clark can step up.

[pizzahead2490]

i hate lecturing on clark but i hate it most of all when lana says it to him.

[Sunny8]

I never thought I'd be standing up for Lana, and I probably never will again, but that lecture was probably the only thing she's ever said that I liked. Well, except when she said she was leaving.:)

Maybe I'm just really sleepy but I thought that was funny:rotfl:

[BadaBingBadaBoomsday]

Sorry while I quote myself from another thread.

And whats wrong with that? Smallville has been like that from the start, hes not Superman YET!

Smallville is all about Superman learning and showing us how he became the man he was, how he was born with flaws that were corrected by various characters to become the great hero he is. I think thats what makes Smallville special, afterall he is known as the BDA (sorry) and we enjoy a laugh at him sometimes.

If he was perfect all the time, we would be saying Clark doesn't need LL, LL, CS or the Legion but Smallville says he does, and this was highlighting why.

Smallville would be a duller place without his imperfections.

[Mischael12]

At the risk of sounding old...thats what made Superman Superman though. Why do you think he was called the Big Blue Boyscout? I mean now they want kids to relate more to Superman so they give him these imperfections, but what always made superman awesome was that he knew right from wrong, he knew what he had to do. While other superhero's were limited by their powers to either save one person or billions, Superman wasn't, and it never would cross his mind to sacrifice one life for millions, he would have remained adamant about saving Chloe and the world. Going even further, true this is Clark's story, but Clark is what reflects off Superman. If he was just raised as an Alien he would have been different, but its his upbringing that made him who he is. But its not so much the lectures, but how they do it like I said. Its as if they are talking down to him. He's not a kid, he's a grown man, and they act like oh yeah your such an idiot here let me break it down for you. Its kinda sad.

[Kal26]

I'm with cksidekick, I saw Clark doing a lot of lecturing. I think a lot of the problem is being on the outside watching a conversation. I look at young kids talking today, it's like they have no respect for each other. I see conversations all the time where one person is talking to another like they're a bloomin idiot, and don't even know how to tie their shoes. At least that's how it looks to me. Then I think back to some of the conversations I had with my friends growing up, and I realize, people never told me what they would do, or what they thought would be best for me to do, they strait told me what to do, and I either took the advice and did it, or told them to F off and did what I knew was right. Either way, it was those conflicts that taught me to either trust in myself, or trust in my peers. I for one saw Clark do a lot of telling people to F off last night, and also saw him learn to trust in one of his peers that shares the same world perspective he has. Learning to hear people out, but at the end of the day do what you know is right is part of human interaction. It's part of life. I also have to say that before the Superboy comics came out, we had no Idea what Superman was like as a young man. Yeah, we saw that Superman was a perfect being, but we never really saw how he got to that point. Having never read the actual Superboy comics, I have always figured that Clark grew to that role, just as any other young man that was raised by humans. My dad was as close to a real life Superman as I've ever known. Just, responsible, caring, and devoted to life. He was also raised with the same kind of morals and values that the Kent's pass on to Clark. However, when he was Clark's age right now, he was hardly recognizable as the man I knew as father. I always thought that the Superman we know was something that a young Clark Kent grew into over time, with help from his parents, and peers, so I'm quite pleased with what Smallville has done with the character. Also, I have read a lot of comics over the years, and watched a lot of Superman and Justice League in other forms of media, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Superman hasn't been portrayed as this all knowing, perfect being for a long, long time. He constantly takes the advice of other members of the league, and is in constant struggle with moral dilemmas, one of them being if he should even continue to be Superman or not. He was humanized long before Smallville. It's just that Smallville has been more in your face about it than other interpretations.

[Mischael12]

It basically started in the 90's I would say with Mullet Superman as I like to call him, thats when he started becoming more and more humanized.

Though you can argue that the basic humanizing is seen in the movies which are what most people see, not the comics.

Like I said it wasn't so much the lecturing, it was how it was done. I found him being rather irrational in the beginning but when he got that lecture from Lana it was weird, because I just dont' see where she is coming with that Holier than thou tone.

[Kal26]

I was fine with it, but my wife brought up one point. How does little miss "the only way to stop Lex is to kill him" switch gears so fast. I guess she took the lecture Clark gave her to heart, and is now returning the favor. It reminded my of the scene in JLU when Superman finds out the star labs cloned Supergirl. He goes into the control room and says "give me one good reason I should go down there and take them out!" I believe Martian Manhunter replies with something like "If you didn't know the answer to that, you wouldn't have asked." Superman then says, "Don't handle me J'onn!"