Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of "Legion"

[shy175223]

Please do not post your review until after the episode and please respect others opinions.

[superhippie2000]

thread will be opened when episode airs.

[Buddy91]

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[jimmyolsenblues]

every scene with the legion or brianiac was 14 .....
every scene with lana....not so much..........

[JDS2930]

It was a good episode, but still not the best for me. I definitely liked seeing the Legion. They were iconic. I'm very glad Chloe got her memory back!!

[Kal26]

Best episode of the season in my opinion. They could have seriously made a full length movie out of it. I could definitely tell Johns was involved, and loved the references. I'm wondering what the deal is with lana though. Is she going to be a hero in the Smallvilleverse? I'd even love to see a Legion spin off. The legion members were well cast, and in my opinion well written. I think Lightning Lad could have been written a little more ballsy, but all in all, the portrayal was excellent.

[JFalcon]

I hope the tights aren't too goofy looking.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

10!!! It is literally my favorite episode of Smallville, now. Every scene was pure amazing. AM's acting was superb. The Legion was amazing! AAAH! Everything was amazing!

[Glove]

It was one of the better episodes this show has ever had. Brainiac's mind wipe
will probably be used later. Chloe getting back Clark's secret was cool. They
almost slipped out Clark's superhero name, that was cool. I like that Clark had
to show them a better way to save the day. All and All, I thought it was well
written.

It didn't have parts in it that slowed it down like "Justice". The story seemed
to flow. I will expand on what I said up top, I believe that the Brainiac mind
wipe will be used after Lois interviews Clark in "Infamous". I liked all of the
Superman references. I didn't know anything about Legion prior to this
episode and I thought they were done well. I don't think there was anything
I didn't like about this episode. I'd give it a 10 as compared to most of the
other episodes in the show.

[hyped4lnc]

I give it a nine. It did have a movie feel to it. I like it for the most part, but some scenes could have been better.

I do give two thumbs up for the line quality. It was a great script. There wasn't a wasted word in my opinion.

[LuckyLois]

I really don't know anything about the Legion, but I really liked them. I don't understand Lana a hero, and being the reason Clark becomes Superman, umm, okay. Not sure about all that. I enjoyed them poking fun at his inability to fly, but already Lana is back and I see Clark sliding back to his old stuck in the mud ways!

[RedArrow52]

I think THE Greatest team up episode ever justice league was good but not like this it talked about Clark Kent/Kal-El acknowledged as Superman not some man with super powers. The spin with Lana was weird, but i laughed at myself because it'd be hilarious if Lana became Wonder Woman LMAO. On a serious note it'd be nice to bring back the legion especially with Brainac 5 which would blow minds then throw Kara in the mix an awesome episode hopefully we'll get another episode like that soon now waiting for more to come

[Kid Collins]

The episode was better than I expected. I loved the references to the future that the Legion gave to Clark and Lana. And I loved the fact that even though they told Clark some of the things he'll accomplish, they didn't throw Clois anvils his way. Geoff Johns deserves a huge pat on the back just for that.

I also liked how they wrote Lana in this ep. She was there to help and give advise to Clark, but it was Clark who ended up saving the day.

The ending Clana scene rocked because Clana have the best chemistry . They only need to look and smile at each other and sparks fly! I will miss that when Lana leaves for good.

I'm glad that Chloe got her memory back. Suck it Clark! :lol:

What I didn't like was how Chloe was extracted from Brainiac. The exorcism scene was really cheesy. But I guess this show didn't have the budget for a Chloiac/Clark smackdown!

Geoff Johns can come back and write for this show anyday!

[lauraforever]

I loved it, but there was too much Clana. That's prolly the only setback. And the kiss Imra gave Clark! AWESOME!!!

[skylar]

I had my doubts about this episode but it was pretty good.

[mrw66855]

I thought the episode was good but not great. I gave it a eight because of all the Superman references a good storyline along with decent acting and cool special effects. However, I do have a problem with the fact that they brought Chloe's memory back and never really explain why or how it happened. Another problem I had was doomsday brainiac, said 12 days, so are we supposed to assume 12 days went by since brainiac's destruction for doomsday to break out of his shelter. One more thing, how can the fortress be black still brainiac has been sucked out of Chloe and been taken from time itself. So how can the fortress be black still. And maybe only one who found it ironic that the Legion had heard of everyone's that is part of the Superman mythology and not the only person that smallville added who is still on the show. I do not know. It just cracked me up little bit when that was said. Overall a pretty good episode in my opinion 8/10

[Krypton935]

WOW! what an amazing episode!! 10 for sure!!! THAT was a great great terrific awesome sweet cool episode!!!!!!!!!

[hyped4lnc]

I think my favorite part was when Clark autographed the baseball. It was so minor, but so unexpected. I didn't know he could do that.

[Darth Pipes]

8/10. It started off slow and erratic. Clark was an angry douche like he always is and that guy Garth needs to be on the receiving end of a savage beating. Can't they ever cast someone in the "hotheaded hero" role who isn't ****ing annoying on this show?

Still, it was very cool seeing the Legion in action and I'm glad Chloe got her memories back. But Clark should not be off the hook for mindraping her.

Evil Chloe was definitely the highlight of this episode. Nice bit too with Clark autographing the ball.

[davidbrenton]

I gave it a 7. I enjoyed the dialogue and the pace, however, it felt a little forced with Clark having to "teach the legion of the value of human life". Also, I didn't like that Clark did not think for himself once without having to be told what to do (by The Legion, Lana, etc.). I thought Lois should have gotten a stronger shout out and that it should have been less about Clana.

The foreshadowing for the season finale was eminent with Clark's )SPOLER) heartbreaking choice, which will aparently mean the end for Chloe Sullivan. I give that a 10, although it was a bit overly done.

It was better than Justice.

[Fallen One]

Well Eddie (Kal-ed), you were right in your concerns. The Lana worship went on and on tonight.

[Alexander III]

It was ok, but certainly not one of the best.

[Estro-gen X]

I would have liked to have seen more chemistry between imra and clark like in the comics. I think Calum would have done a great job with the jealousy. as it was we only saw a little flicker when she kissed clark on the cheek

[TJY09]

I hope the tights aren't too goofy looking.

What is with you about Clark being Superman? Every thread that is about Clark wear a Superman costume or doing Superman things, you say something negative. Why? That is the whole purpose of watching this show! It is like you don't want to see Clark progress into Superman or something.

[IheartCJK]

Hi. I'm new, but I'll share my 2cents.

The Legion was great. Clark was great when Lana wasn't around. Chloe was...well...Chloe...I really don't have any opinion of her either way as a character...so I really don't pay that much attention to her. However, the scene between Brainiac & Davis was spectacular. I also thought that the absence of Lois weakened the entire episode.

I agree with the previous posters...a Legion spin-off would be cool...and the episode definitely had a 'movie feel'.

[bertjo44]

Love it. Gave it a 10. To me each episode has gotten better than the last this season. My favorite part was when Lightening Lad said, "Cal, where's your cape". Not just the line but the way he said it. AWSOME!!!!

[ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva]

Beautiful episode.

An easy 10.

[stenochick]

I think my favorite part was when Clark autographed the baseball. It was so minor, but so unexpected. I didn't know he could do that.

:rotfl:

Didn't know he could do what? Spell his name? He did graduate highschool, you know.:lol:

[llk6165]

I miss Clois (I wouldn't be me if I didn't). But I thought that was the best acting of any of the episodes I've scene. The actress who played Chloe should get some type of Emmy (or whatever awards they give out for TV). That was some of the best acting ever. I think Tom Welling better than prior seasons. I think new writers have something to do with it. That smile Clark gave to Lana at the end should be only for Lois (ok, I'm biased)

[Vatusia]

I have been working abroad, so I've had trouble getting to see new eps of Smallville. So I just want to express how nice it is to get to see tonight's episode, and how much I enjoyed it. I loved the SV take on the Legion (including the reference to Brainiac 5), and I loved the way the main characters have developed. Well done, PTB!

[xHerox]

I have to admit that initially I was skeptical when I discovered that the Legion of Super-Heroes was going to be incorporated into the show, most likely because I wasn't sure there was a way to implement them without being too campy. Luckily, this episode proved me completely wrong and satisfied me immensely, which is why I gave it a perfect score.

First of all, I thought that Allison Mack did an absolutely terrific job in this episode and I definitely believed the malevolence in her character throughout many scenes. I also thought that this episode was done very well technically, especially the lighting effects used when Chloe was Braniac. The entire visual style of the episode was amazing, including everything involving the Legion of Super-Heroes.

All in all an absolutely fantastic episode, and the show is definitely in top form again!

[Ginx]

Really enjoyed the writing in general and the character banter. Enjoyed the inclusion of the Legion rings and them giving CK a way to come see them. Interesting developments. I gave it a 10 - glad it's back.

[Markd329]

This ep definitely rates a 10+. It was the best episode since "Justice" and it shows how a GREAT writer like Geoff Johns can write a superhero story for TV. Mr. Johns did a "Nolanesque" approach to "Legion" that respected the source material, but put a believeable spin on the story. I love the way he made the Legion learn from Clark and how Clark learns from the Legion, and I'm finally glad that Chloe has her knowledge of Clark's secret back [because it will save his ass in the future!]

Now, WTF are we gonna do about Doomsday? Ol' Doomy looks like he'll do some damage in the future, so Clarkie better watch out!

[hyped4lnc]

:rotfl:

Didn't know he could do what? Spell his name? He did graduate highschool, you know.:lol:
:lol: Well, there were times the BDA seem to not know the basics in life.

For real, I didn't know he could concentrate his heat vision like that. I didn't know he could curve the beam without even moving his head.

[rysamad]

the best episode in this S8 so far!

[JFalcon]

The Martian Manhunter or Jor-El is going to have to give Clark more information about Doomsday. Doomsday has to have a weakness.

[reobeem]

They are certainly doing things right this season. I loved how they monderized the Legion to fit todays world. I also noticed the great nods to the Superman legend and even a few from Smallville. Chloe as Brainiac frightened me, she/he/it was so scary when it attacked Clark and then started draining information from across the world. Allison performed that role splendidly. The Legion themselves were well done and I adored their fan like attitude of Clark. Their powers were amazing and were put to good use during the Electro-Exsorsizm. Davis and Doomsday were done well to. I'm really hopeing they find a way to save Davis but manage to kill or at least imprison Doomsday. Speaking of which why didn't anybody pay notice to that overlooked fact? Lana truely has improved as a character since season 6 and 7 and I hope they give her a good send off and that she will return in the series finale. I wish though they gave a little more screen time to the Persuader or at least explaine why he hates Clark. I liked the reference to Brainiac 5 and I'm sure he'll be the plot device to bring Brainiac 2.0 back. I hope to see the Legion again before the season or series end. The previews look to be epic and I am excited for the rest of the season.

[stenochick]

:lol: Well, there were times the BDA seem to not know the basics in life.

For real, I didn't know he could concentrate his heat vision like that. I didn't know he could curve the beam without even moving his head.

I know. I was just joking around. It was a nice touch to add that into the scene.

[Hockeyking]

[Mod Edit] It was the same crap the writers have been shoveling on us for years now, with a gimmick thrown in for good measure. Chloe in distress, Clark second guessing himself on what to do, and someone showing the way for him. Such [Mod Edit]. I don't know if the majority of people on this site [Mod Edit] I recommend watching one episode of Lost, and you'll see what a truly great sci fi show can be.

[tibbit78]

I have seen better Smallville episodes than Legion. This is not one of the best episodes of the 8th season.

There's a couple of things I liked about it:

1) Special effects were great!

2) Acting was great! Allison Mack's acting was great!


I just watched Smallville a second time, and it's not as bad as I thought. The special effects were great, except not being able to see Clark fly. I liked how Clark signed the baseball with his heat vision. Great special effects.

I liked the special-effects of Chloe (looking like she was zapped by electricity) in order to save her. I know some people aren't too happy, but I'm very happy she got Clark's secret back.

I liked the lines of Lana Lang and also Clark & the Legion's lines. They were great!

[spideyfan]

I gave it a 10 for Geoff Johns writing it...I give it a 10 for doing justice (no pun intended) to the Legion...

[biggkoz]

I think the vampire episode was way better.

[eas]

Well Eddie (Kal-ed), you were right in your concerns. The Lana worship went on and on tonight.

Hey... no shout out to me? I called that, too. WAY back when.

Uh... this episode is not rated high in my book. Too much Lana Lang worship. And the fact that they Persuader was there for 2 seconds while the rest of the episode was about "Save Chloe Sullivan, Save the World"???

Yeah... um... about a 5. I can't believe they had LOSH to play with and they made the whole episode about Chloe & Lana. Gotta love SV... they really know how to take iconic moments and ruin them.

[thehenry89]

I give it a 6, I liked Justice better. But Jeff Johns is a pretty awsome writer.

[Slimgoodi17]

And the kiss Imra gave Clark! AWESOME!!!

:eek::eek::eek:

I swear if I was was Alexz Johnson, I would have kept screwing up the scene so I could kiss Tom over and over. :rolleyes:

But back on topic, I really liked the episode. I can't really decide if it's because I actually liked the episode or if it's because I'm so excited Smallville's back. Either way...the 'Superman' references rocked, AM's acting was on point, and overall, the writing for the ep. was spectacular. I PRAY Clark uses that ring for...something! The episode wasn't Smallville's best, but it was still more than entertaining to watch. I can't wait until next week!

[melissan02]

Hey... no shout out to me? I called that, too. WAY back when.

Uh... this episode is not rated high in my book. Too much Lana Lang worship. And the fact that they Persuader was there for 2 seconds while the rest of the episode was about "Save Chloe Sullivan, Save the World"???

Yeah... um... about a 5. I can't believe they had LOSH to play with and they made the whole episode about Chloe & Lana. Gotta love SV... they really know how to take iconic moments and ruin them.

I agree with this....when it started I thought it was gonna be great. Then it had that whole..."save the cheerleader, save the world":rolleyes:...bit to it and I became less and less interested throughout the episode.
Then the Lana worship .....I'll not touch that with a ten foot pole right now, for fear I'd get banned, so it's better I not say what I think.:D

[Hockeyking]

Hey... no shout out to me? I called that, too. WAY back when.

Uh... this episode is not rated high in my book. Too much Lana Lang worship. And the fact that they Persuader was there for 2 seconds while the rest of the episode was about "Save Chloe Sullivan, Save the World"???

Yeah... um... about a 5. I can't believe they had LOSH to play with and they made the whole episode about Chloe & Lana. Gotta love SV... they really know how to take iconic moments and ruin them.


Exactly my thoughts on the show. The show has had eight years to show Clark as a indecisive person and it's time to move on into the Superman mythos already. They had better end this show already as they have hit their peak years ago.

[Physeo]

I thought it was really good + awesome mysterious ending

[ledzepfan23]

very very good episode. i loved the references and possible foreshadowing with the ring clark got and the stuff about chloe not being in the history books. I give it a 9 because of the Lana factor and i felt the battle with the persuader could have been longer.

[AgentChaos]

I really wanted to give it a 10, but the nauseating Lana-worship bumped it down to a 9.

ETA: Chloe got her memory back! YES! A horrible wrong was righted, although if Clark's actions are just ignored for the rest of the season, I will not be happy.

[ClarkyBoy14]

9/10

Another very good episode for Smallville. The writing was nice. I liked all of the Superman references. I like who they picked to play the Legion members, especially Rokk. AM did a nice job as Brainiac, although there were a few spots that could have been better. I liked the way Tom delivered his speech to the Legion in the Daily Planet.

My only major problems are that it seems like there was no purpose to taking away to Chloe's memory and the Persuader fight could have been longer.

Also, there were, like, a few references to Lana and everyone flips out. I'm not even a fan of the character and the bias against her is evident to me. The bias is old and annoying, but what should I expect? :rolleyes:

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, I'm going to give it a 9/10.

[Fallen One]

Hey... no shout out to me? I called that, too. WAY back when.

Uh... this episode is not rated high in my book. Too much Lana Lang worship. And the fact that they Persuader was there for 2 seconds while the rest of the episode was about "Save Chloe Sullivan, Save the World"???

Yeah... um... about a 5. I can't believe they had LOSH to play with and they made the whole episode about Chloe & Lana. Gotta love SV... they really know how to take iconic moments and ruin them.
Sorry Sana, you're right. And now that I think about it I left out somebody else who expressed concerns of "good ole Smallville" influence, and thats Badtoad. All three of you were right in your concerns.

There was a lot good tonight and the episode will rate high for me after I rewatch it multiple times, but there was some stuff that I could point to and say "yep, thats usual SV writers sticking their nose in Johns' writing". And its not that I ever doubted you guys. But I should have been more vocal at the time.

None of this surprises me anymore.

[Blue Orange NY]

i loved it

[MsCali4Eva]

:lol: Well, there were times the BDA seem to not know the basics in life.

For real, I didn't know he could concentrate his heat vision like that. I didn't know he could curve the beam without even moving his head.

Hilarous comment. Scrathing my head - come to think of it, I didn't know that Smallville's CK could do that neither, I've only seen it in the comic books, but I digress.....

I gave this an 8, although I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. AM was phenomenal with her role. She can act her butt off! Davis was creepy. Can't wait to see how DD will come after CK. I love the Legion here. It brought back cartoon memories. Please bring 'em back! They had great chemistry. It's nice to see CK getting some assistance for a change. I loved all the Superman references. And I loved the special effects. Today's episode made me realized how the previous episodes were lacking with the special effects. I was yearning for MORE.

I missed Lois though, and the Legion didn't even mention her. Hello? I mean Clois anvils were being tossed all around since the beginning of this season. So what made today's episode any different regarding the anvils? My bad - different writers. But Clana.... was well, still Clana. I could've used a little less of that. To add insult to injury CK still doesn't appear to be over her. She said she's been gone 7 months! Get over her all ready CK! Damn. Okay - I'm going to go "woosai" now. That's why I gave the episode an 8 instead of a 10. So there. :p

[ZODisGOD]

This was an absolute 10! This was my favorite episode of the season with Identity as a close second. The future references, Doomsday scenes, the Brainiac extraction, and a few humor spots, it was awesome. So good, the clana scenes didn't leave a scratch.

[STFanatic]

This episode ranks right up there with the Pilot episode for me.

[warriorrenegade]

What can I say. The episode didn't live up to it's hype. Was it a good episode? Sure no doubt, but it wasn't EPIC as many of us were lead to believe. It had solid characters and solid plot and decent action. It just had something missing. And I don't know what IT is, but I know IT when I don't see it. Weird huh? LOL I know. Could that IT be more of the Persuader? More Clark/Legion interaction? More Clark? Don't know but something was missing. I know I can't be the only one who felt this way, right? Anyways , if I had to rate the episode I'd give it a 8/10 solid but not perfect for an episode of this "importance" it should've been.

[christina]

Loved it!!!! 10 the last clana scene was beautifully shot!! very pretty people those two.

[globalbudd3]

I thought it was very entertaining. My only complain was that the legion costumes were not "futuristic" enough. I find it hard to believe that in the 31st century, kids still dress like teenagers from the 21st century.

AM did a wonderful job as always. Clana was definitely the icing of the cake.

Love the three actors portraying the Legion. I thought they did a wonderful job.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Some more things:

- The baseball thing was really cool.
- The lighting and such was really pretty for this episode.
- Sweet ending.

I liked the Legion a lot, and I think it would be awesome if we get to see them again. Either in an episode next season or in a spin-off.


I missed Lois though, and the Legion didn't even mention her. Hello? I mean Clois anvils were being tossed all around since the beginning of this season. So what made today's episode any different regarding the anvils? My bad - different writers.

Actually, she did get one mention. One of them said "we've heard of Lois Lane, Lana Lang, even Jimmy Olsen, but never Chloe Sullivan." ;)

[Karafan1]

10!!! I loved it!! I loved the "no tights, no flights" line..

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Actually she got two mentions. That one, and at the end with Chloe.

[BadToad]

I'm giving this one a 6, and overall, I found it disappointing. For one thing, there didn't seem to be that much Clark in the first 1/2 of the episode. Secondly, Johns made the same mistake the SV writers make very often, that is that they don't allow Clark to fully express what he's thinking and feeling, but instead have others TELL him what he's thinking, or assure him of what he should think. Its frustrating.

I had been told about how much Johns gets Clark, and Superman, and how that will shine through. I'm not sure I saw that here. While we did see Clark's resolve to save Chloe, and I very much like the ending where he convinced the Legion to come around to his line of thinking, I didn't especially feel the writing for Clark in this episode. Maybe because Johns was too busy making sure someone was shining Lana's butt.

Wow, the Lana canonizing was off the chain, wasn't it? Good gracious, the next 4 episodes will probably have her curing cancer, bringing about world peace, and be elected President. Either Johns suffers from the same disease as the SV writers, or he was overruled here bigtime.

The Chloe as Brainiac thing, and her getting her memories restored would've been far more effective if we'd seen some of the aftermath. Instead, Chloe was just fine, than seemed sunshine and happiness as she packs to go off to her hospitalized hubby. And Clark should've told her what he did. Talk about a lack of reaction. AM did fine as Brainiac, though I wasn't so much blown away. She's obviously an extremely capable actress, so I'm going to blame some of the issues I had on direction. Sorry Glen. :\

TW did a so-so job, and anyone that knows me knows how much it pains me to say that. He was really solid as the episode went on, but seemed strangely removed in the first part of the episode.

And really, The Persuader was sort of a waste of time, wasn't he?

And the Lana pictures in the house? Come on SV. That crap just makes Clark look emotionally stunted. Is it necessary to regard Clark so little to elevate Lana? Really?

So, I was underwhelmed.

I do want to give props to the actors that played Rokk and Garth. They were wonderful. The actress that played Imra was a bit weak, and I was totally distracted by her blue eye shadow.

I just don't get it though....Superman never passed on that "Don't kill" thing before? How does that even make sense?

Not much to say about the Davis stuff.

Like I said, its a 6. Its a bit generous. JMHO

[ClarkyBoy14]

Actually she got two mentions. That one, and at the end with Chloe.

I know. I was talking about when the Legion mentioned her. :)

[superman_reboot]

It just had something missing. And I don't know what IT is, but I know IT when I don't see it. Weird huh? LOL I know. Could that IT be more of the Persuader? More Clark/Legion interaction? More Clark? Don't know but something was missing.

Are you maybe referring to Clark flying?

I didn't feel anything was missing. More hope Clark might fly than missing it really.

I rated the episode a 9. The Clana aspect of it did seem to overshadow Lois, but at the same time, Lois was not in the episode to interact with the Legion. The Clana plot left me with more questions than before. Such as what is Lana really hiding? We all expect Lana to perhaps die in "Requiem" coming soon, but Saturn Girl told her that she will go on to do many great things and her secret is safe. Doesn't sound like a "Hey, you're gonna die soon." to me. To all those complaining about the Clana side of things, I don't love that whole area myself. But with respect, the Legion mentioned they "even" heard of Jimmy Olson in their time, yet there was no mention of Lex Luthor at all. I think the focus on Clana is just to build the hype as Kristin begins to leave the show in the next few episodes. Its ratings and building hype for a show, that's why. Doesn't surprise me the writers did it.

I would still say Justice is my favorite episode, but Legion is right there with it. Very well written (by Geoff Johns of course), and well done overall. Some great acting my AM, the new Legionnaires, and some very welcome special effects that have been very lacking in my opinion this season. The effects in this episode reminded me of seasons where they had a budget for it.

Good job, and I hope the rest of the episodes this season are on par with it.

[6-Super-Man -5]

10!!! I loved it!! I loved the "no tights, no flights" line..

Yeah, that was awesome! :lol:

[superman_reboot]

For one thing, there didn't seem to be that much Clark in the first 1/2 of the episode. Secondly, Johns made the same mistake the SV writers make very often, that is that they don't allow Clark to fully express what he's thinking and feeling, but instead have others TELL him what he's thinking, or assure him of what he should think. Its frustrating.


I can see what you are saying BadToad, but I disagree with this. The first half of the episode had Clark with the Legion trying to tell him to kill Chloe. He was there the whole time. As for the second point, I totally disagree. I thought it was great that even in the present, Clark literally "told" or "lead" the Legion that Chloe would not be harmed. And even at the end of the episode Rokk said the new number rule for the Legion will be to preserve life at all costs. Sounds like Clark said what he thought and felt loud and clear to me, don't you think? It demonstrated his taking leadership and the Legion accepted it with respect for him despite what they thought.

[Lilah]

Favorite episode of the season by far. Could have done without the Clana though.... but it did seem like she was written it just because the episode was smack in the middle of her 5 episode arc.... I would have preferred Lois Lane in this episode and Garth going ga ga because he was meeting Superman and his wife! lol

[Larry5000]

Well I thought it was good, but not great. I too was expecting more. Still wish it could have been a two hour episode, that way they would not have had to cram so much into so little time and very well could have made it a really great episode.

As always, more putting on hold the flight thing, If this show is good for one thing it is to constantly put the whole Clark flying thing in the deep freeze. Oh well one can only hope they are saving that for a really really spectacular moment, at a time we would say wow I did not expect that.

And the comment thing about the costumes on the Legion I have to agree with now. I know they were going for the earlier Legion I guess just like Smallville is before Clark being Superman. But being they are from the 31th Century they should have had the more modern costumes. That would have added a more cool touch to the whole episode.
They are referencing Clark as Superman with the whole outfit cape and all so why would they not have their cool outfits too. Just a thought.

Well that is all from me, again very good episode but not great.

[dchrisrea]

First post but this was a great episode. I became a fan last year and bought all seasons on DVD to catch up and this was good.

Fast pace, not too much Superman history to divert the script and just enough to keep things interesting!! Season 5 and 6 scared me a bit as they slowed things down and seemed to have cut the budget.

I can't say that they increased the budget but they do seem to be moving Clark from geeky farm boy to super hero a lot faster than previous seasons. I was getting tired of his loyalty to his small town roots without welcoming his 'destiny'.

The foreshadowing of Chloe having to be sacrificed to save the world was rather interesting considering it was the topic of this episode. I have a feeling we will be seeing that arc soon enough.

Looking forward to more 'all new' Smallville.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I can see what you are saying BadToad, but I disagree with this. The first half of the episode had Clark with the Legion trying to tell him to kill Chloe. He was there the whole time. As for the second point, I totally disagree. I thought it was great that even in the present, Clark literally "told" or "lead" the Legion that Chloe would not be harmed. And even at the end of the episode Rokk said the new number rule for the Legion will be to preserve life at all costs. Sounds like Clark said what he thought and felt loud and clear to me, don't you think? It demonstrated his taking leadership and the Legion accepted it with respect for him despite what they thought.

I agree.

However, there's one thing that BadToad brought up that I forgot to mention in my complaints. And that's Chloe's reaction to being kidnapped and possesed. It seems like Lana was more upset about what happened to Chloe than Chloe was upset about what happened to Chloe. It was odd. Maybe if some of the commercials had been cut out we could have seen that.

[Saber]

I’m on the fence about this episode, I give it a 5.

I think on paper it would have read as a good comic book and I would have paid money for it but acting it out made it a bit hokey. It was just too much tooty-fruity, bubble gum dialogue from the future Legion and Clark.
Now the Chloe scenes were excellent and AM did a great job, I’m glad she got her memories back.

It was a bit of overkill on Lana’s super destiny, to much in your face about it and the gushing was excessive.

Even so I am on the fence about this episode I do like the move towards more comic book action rather than love triangles.
Right about now, I think Smallville needs some rawness, to be darker and edgy. The show is still taking to many baby steps for Clark at this stage. They need to step up to the plate so we can see why any one would want to see that baseball in a museum one day.

[unfocused]

Loved it. The Legion, the Persuader, Chloiac, the special effects, and the Doomsday ending... all so amazing.

[Moonshayde]

I loved it. I loved all of it. And Clark was in charge the whole time.

[Clois4eva89]

I'm new to the whole Legion stuff but this episode was pretty good.Though I was surprised that there was no mind wipe at the end. I heard some rumors that a Legion spin-off could happen if the ratings were good enough. That would make sense why Clark was given a Legion ring. Tom Welling could guest star during Season 9 or after Smallville ends every once in a while. I mean when Buffy and Angel were still on the air,Sarah guest starred on Angel,and David on Buffy.

[GrimmReeper]

I gave it a 10, but I really wanted to give it a 10,000+:D the Lana and Clark scenes were OK, I'm just glad it didn't take up the whole episode.

[lm1212]

I gave it a 7. I may enjoy it a bit more after watching it a few more times (as I usually do) but I wasn't that satisfied with it. Things I didn't like:

-The whole lana thing gives it a 7th season feel, which i hate.
-The ending scene with Chloe didn't seem right. They saved her for a reason, (hopefully) and I'm sure they'll get more in depth with the whole "who is Chloe, really" thing, but the ending scene made her seem like a regular save of the day. Like a "thanks Clark, i'll go back to my normal life now". There is no story for her anymore, without brainiac.
-Saturn girl was such a bore....zzzz...it was like she just woke up whenever she was on screen.
-TW's acting was like the BDA back in season 5 or something....he was maturing so much in the past episodes this season. But in the beginning of this one, he was, vacant. Distant. Lost. It was weird.
-The persuader thing was a bit of a waste? It's like, ooooohhhh no the persuader, then 10 seconds later, he's gone, and there's no reason to mention him for the rest of the episode.
-The dialogue was so dang on cheese-filled.

But I did like the overall writing for the show. The effects were good, too. (except Doomy, I laugh when he's on screen)

[gnovack]

Tom and Kristin are such good looking people.

[Seeya'round Smallville]

I'm giving this one a 6, and overall, I found it disappointing. For one thing, there didn't seem to be that much Clark in the first 1/2 of the episode. Secondly, Johns made the same mistake the SV writers make very often, that is that they don't allow Clark to fully express what he's thinking and feeling, but instead have others TELL him what he's thinking, or assure him of what he should think. Its frustrating.

I had been told about how much Johns gets Clark, and Superman, and how that will shine through. I'm not sure I saw that here. While we did see Clark's resolve to save Chloe, and I very much like the ending where he convinced the Legion to come around to his line of thinking, I didn't especially feel the writing for Clark in this episode. Maybe because Johns was too busy making sure someone was shining Lana's butt.

Wow, the Lana canonizing was off the chain, wasn't it? Good gracious, the next 4 episodes will probably have her curing cancer, bringing about world peace, and be elected President. Either Johns suffers from the same disease as the SV writers, or he was overruled here bigtime.

The Chloe as Brainiac thing, and her getting her memories restored would've been far more effective if we'd seen some of the aftermath. Instead, Chloe was just fine, than seemed sunshine and happiness as she packs to go off to her hospitalized hubby. And Clark should've told her what he did. Talk about a lack of reaction. AM did fine as Brainiac, though I wasn't so much blown away. She's obviously an extremely capable actress, so I'm going to blame some of the issues I had on direction. Sorry Glen. :\

TW did a so-so job, and anyone that knows me knows how much it pains me to say that. He was really solid as the episode went on, but seemed strangely removed in the first part of the episode.

And really, The Persuader was sort of a waste of time, wasn't he?

And the Lana pictures in the house? Come on SV. That crap just makes Clark look emotionally stunted. Is it necessary to regard Clark so little to elevate Lana? Really?

So, I was underwhelmed.

I do want to give props to the actors that played Rokk and Garth. They were wonderful. The actress that played Imra was a bit weak, and I was totally distracted by her blue eye shadow.

I just don't get it though....Superman never passed on that "Don't kill" thing before? How does that even make sense?

Not much to say about the Davis stuff.

Like I said, its a 6. Its a bit generous. JMHO

Cool, I was looking forward to hearing your thoughts since you watch it for Clark first. In episodes without Lois, Clark's pretty much my only concern. Some of my Clois fans really hate it but I don't know how much of that is ship-bias so it's good to hear your thoughts to get a more middle of the road opinion. Sounds kinda like what I figured though, sadly.

[Marfeic2011]

I love this show, hands down my favorite ever, and I have followed it since the beginning. It's had its ups and downs, but this is a set back in my opinion. Special effects and great production cannot make up for the CHEESY and PREDICTABLE dialogue. Where was Lois? I know Erica was only contracted for half the season - which does not make any sense to me. What is the point of developing her relationship with Clark only to yank the rug out like nothing ever happened, bring Lana back in, and suddenly its like we are in a different season... major step backwards. The show was just getting good and felt like it was going in the right direction. I know its their last season & everything - but why derail a good thing? I am surprised so many people liked it so much... I think Clana has had enough closure, put the nail in the coffin already - PLEASE!!!

[Lexgirl33]

Thought the episode was kind of average, but the Legion was a lot of fun. I would rate this a 7. I really enjoyed the little anvils as well :)

[Jaded Wolf]

I usually don't give episodes 10/10 but this was the one I did. I loved it and I loved the nods to the mythos and to us fans. Did anyone else think the producers were telling us the same thing Lana told Clark at the end. When Lana told Clark to fullfill his destiny on his own time I thought it might have been a nod to us as well. Numerous times we have come on this site to complain about the slow progression of Clark into Superman. Maybe this was a way the producers to tell us they understood our frustrations but that it was coming.

Garth was hilarious and I thought Emma was not only gorgeous but well casted. I could definetely tell there was a comic book writer behind the scenes and I hope Geoff comes back for more. I love that Clark now has a Legion ring and I hope he uses it later on or even the next season. And yes, I want a season 9 now!!!

[llk6165]

Lauraforever is right. Way too much Clana. Other than that I enjoyed Legion. They did a great job. Chloe was awesome.

[warriorrenegade]

Are you maybe referring to Clark flying?

Not hardly. Just more depth of character or story. It all just felt shallow like more could've been said or done. But instead we got window dressing and an overall underwhelming episode. Still it was a good episode just not the epic one would expect.

[Karafan1]

They need to rerun "Legion" soon! I just watched it on my tape and my tape started acting up and skipping towards the end..Ahhh!!:eek:

[Firebunny]

I enjoyed the episode except for the Lana praising (which was way over the top) and the end was pretty flat.

[Meda1]

It was funny, and good and I really liked how Clark proved to the Legion he was the man history remembers. I also didn't like that it took Clark to show the Legion that killing isn't an option for Heros. Oh, and I liked that little thing about taking the leftovers of Brainic to make Brainic 5, I remember that from the recent cartoons. I never did understand how he was made but why is he Brainic 5? Did Clark destroy Brainic 4 times?

[llk6165]

They need to rerun "Legion" soon! I just watched it on my tape and my tape started acting up and skipping towards the end..Ahhh!!:eek:

[mod edit]

[Clois4eva89]

So does Chloe remember Clark's secret now?

[MsCali4Eva]

Some more things:

Actually, she did get one mention. One of them said "we've heard of Lois Lane, Lana Lang, even Jimmy Olsen, but never Chloe Sullivan." ;)

Oh yeah! Thanks for refreshing my memory ClarkyBoy14. See - I was so ticked-off about Clana in this episode that I had selective memory regarding Clois. :rolleyes:

[fuchsiaRose]

It had good moments which no doubt are owed to Geoff (namely most of the LOSH moments) but then the Lana crap was just so old and boring. I was pleased at least that all Lana had was like 3 scenes...she was barely there or in BRIDE so I'm loving the lack of screentime but at the same time, when she's there...it's just the SAME CRAP from season's past.

But now they want to suddenly make Lana into a person who is wiser than Clark Kent. And of course to achieve this feat they make Clark into a complete idiot who actually thinks that killing Chloe could be an option. Unbelievable. This is what we get when Lana is around.

But thankfully she was there to set him straight. Thank you Lana Lang. </sarcasm>

I was read to give Lana and her story arc another chance but this is just the same garbage from the previous years. What exactly is her arc? Keeping secrets again? *yawn*


And Saturn Girl being all "you have a great destiny" was laughable. What exactly is Lana Lang's destiny (comic wise)? Hmm...marrying Pete, having a baby and naming him Clark, divorcing Pete, fawning over Clark and trying to be a homewrecker.

Oh Lana! You're future is amazing!!!

Seriously. Were we supposed to swallow this crap? Lana Lang has a great future ahead of her? Give me a break. Seriously. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

[Karafan1]

Tomorrow google the phrase "watchsmallvilleonline" and you can watch again.

Well, it was kinda my fault because I was at the end of a tape and sometimes the end of tapes get fuzzy and skip..But it was a new tape and I didn't think it would do that. I'll be taping from the beginning of tapes from now on. I learned my lesson tonight!!

[dreamsofnever]

It had good moments which no doubt are owed to Geoff (namely most of the LOSH moments) but then the Lana crap was just so old and boring. I was pleased at least that all Lana had was like 3 scenes...she was barely there or in BRIDE so I'm loving the lack of screentime but at the same time, when she's there...it's just the SAME CRAP from season's past.

But now they want to suddenly make Lana into a person who is wiser than Clark Kent. And of course to achieve this feat they make Clark into a complete idiot who actually thinks that killing Chloe could be an option. Unbelievable. This is what we get when Lana is around.

But thankfully she was there to set him straight. Thank you Lana Lang. </sarcasm>

I was read to give Lana and her story arc another chance but this is just the same garbage from the previous years. What exactly is her arc? Keeping secrets again? *yawn*


And Saturn Girl being all "you have a great destiny" was laughable. What exactly is Lana Lang's destiny (comic wise)? Hmm...marrying Pete, having a baby and naming him Clark, divorcing Pete, fawning over Clark and trying to be a homewrecker.

Oh Lana! You're future is amazing!!!

Seriously. Were we supposed to swallow this crap? Lana Lang has a great future ahead of her? Give me a break. Seriously. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Um, yeah, quoted because you said just about everything I wanted to say.

That said, I absolutely adored the portrayal of the Legion. I loved the effects, the costumes, the actors, and Lightning Lad provided a lot of levity in an episode that could have been extremely serious. And he actually did start to say "someday, you'll be known as S-"!!!! That moment had my little Superman-loving heart all aflutter. So glad they switched out the syllables on us (in the promos he started to say K- instead)

So, to recap:
The Legion scenes=awesome, truly awesome. (would love a spin-off, even if it won't happen)
Clark being adamant about not taking a life=very Supermanly and lovely, and I just loved his influence on the Legion
Allison Mack as Braniac=incredible!
Lana and the rehash of Clana and the Lana-worship from Saturn Girl=WTH? Al and Miles, how did you sneak this into the script AND filming? WTH?

Don't get me wrong, I want to see Clana get closure. I did like the comment about Lana having a destiny outside of being Clark's girlfriend, because the girl needs to learn that you don't need to ALWAYS have a boyfriend. Sometimes you can just do great things without having to have a love interest and play the break-up/angst tango game with them.

I think Lana on her own could do some interesting things. I would love to see Lana depart for a destiny of her very own.

What I don't want to see is Clark mooning over Lana for the next four episodes, and completely disregarding the fact that he stomped all over Lois' heart and hasn't even bothered to address that. While he was looking for Chloe, that's all well and good that he wouldn't take time to talk about his feelings. But now that Chloe's safe and sound, all he can say is that it was nice of Lois to take care of Jimmy, but he's sure Jimmy would prefer Chloe around?

Regardless of what ship you root for, Clark almost kissing someone and realizing their feelings and then walking away without a second thought or consideration for those feelings is not a gentlemanly way to act. It's unkind and inconsiderate, and not the qualities of a future Superman.

[bizzaroboy9]

i was amazed with this episode
i loved the humors and allusion about kal el's future
the legion was amazingly perfectly casted! i hope to see more from them again!
chloe as brainiac was very chilling, i got gossebumps and cill in my spine after hearing what she as brainiac said. the special effec was very nicely done! i noticed they started to film more on location rather than the studio which is nice! it's nice to see the kent farm again not from a repeated clip.
this was a very important episode geared toward clark's destiny as superman.
i loved lana lang's scenes. i was pleased that she didnt steal the scenes. she was actually very helpful!
10 out of 10!
looking to more episode from smallville! :D

[SnowBird]

It was an excellent episode and kept me wanting more throughout. I liked the strong minded Clark the most. He was determined to save Chloe and led the way. Of course he had some doubts about what would happen to the people worldwide with his choice of letting Chloe live or killing her. He wouldn't be the future Superman if he wasn't concerned for the human race. The world was in his hands and he saved it and Chloe and now she is back to normal, or is she. There was something different about her when she was talking with Clark towards the end. Allison did a great job as Brainiac and sold me on the evilness...I like the stronger, more confident Lana who is more concerned for Clark's destiny than for her own. I wonder what her secret is. I'm intrigued about that...The Legion did a terrific job and giving Clark just enough knowledge of the future but not too much. It will give Clark another reason to go in the right direction to fulfill his destiny. I believe the ring will be used in Smallville's future. After all Clark went back to Krypton so why not go to the future...The red cape just pops up all the time, as a gift, on Green Arrow pretending to be Clark, and now another reference made. Maybe we will get to see Clark wear the red cape eventually. I liked the beginning of the episode and even if the Persuader wasn't long for this world, it let Clark know there are more aliens that could hurt him which he needs to be aware of...The threat of Doomsday is ever present and the warning from the Legion is foreshadowing what is to come between them, imo. I think there was a lot of foreshadowing that will come to pass and we have a front seat to see it happen which is very exciting for me...Overall, I liked this episode very much and I gave it a 10.

[diinIN]

EXCELLENT episode! I gave it a 10. REALLY nice to come back to this after the long break.

Loved the Legion! The actors really did a nice job. I hope they return from the future again sometime. I like that Clark taught them something important to take forward, and that they so admired him. "Where's your cape?" was funny. Also, "No tights, no flights." Rokk was cool. Excellent work to both the writers and the actors.

Allison did a wonderful job portraying a creature straight out of Supernatural. WHERE are Sam and Dean when you need them? (BTW, it looked to me like Helen Slater was on their show tonight). The make-up crew made Chloe look spectacularly creepy! Not sure I like that her memories are back already--it might have been better to milk that situation a little longer. Interesting that Chloe leaves no mark on the future. Maybe she just goes off and lives a quiet, low-key life with Jimmy.

I keep hoping Lana skips town real quick before Clark all turns to jello again. I fear the kiss we keep hearing about. I hope they make a last minute decision to cut it, or at least that Lois isn't around when it happens.

My husband is really enjoying SV again, I think for the first time since season 5. Tonight he said, "What are we going to do when they take this show off the air?" Wear out our DVD sets, that's for sure. We are seriously enjoying this season. I hope we can look forward to #9!

[mfarhaniqbal33]

[Mod Edit] It was the same crap the writers have been shoveling on us for years now, with a gimmick thrown in for good measure. Chloe in distress, Clark second guessing himself on what to do, and someone showing the way for him. Such [Mod Edit]. I don't know if the majority of people on this site [Mod Edit] I recommend watching one episode of Lost, and you'll see what a truly great sci fi show can be.

Lemme start by saying This Episode was fantastic. Beyond everything. Just that Lighting Lad's acting as the show was going ahead was weird to me may be it is cuz i dont know much about him. Any way Mr. Hockey King should take off his Crown and hit himself with a Hockey. If u wanna refer a show at least refer a good one Not LOST please..I GET LOST IN LOST and not good way...please NO MORE FLASHBACKS!!!

[ywm]

Man, i was blown away by the episode. totally 10/10!!!!

[Kevin24]

10/10 Did anyone notice Alicia Baker in the episode?

[jqedward]

I think this episode was well done. I will say it again because it needs to be heard about a billion times, but Allison Mack is one of the most amazing young talents out there! She was brillant as Chloiac. Also seing Doomsday look all menacing at the end was icing on the cake.

[Mini Wolfsbane]

I'm so underwhelmed. For once, I actually don't understand why some people are rating this episode a ten. A ten? Seriously?
I give it a 6...an 8 at best.

If they'd cut the Lana scenes down to just one, that would've been enough.
They could've filled up the rest of her screen time with, dare I say it, Lois and Jimmy
at the hospital or something. Anything but not more Lana! *pokes own eyes with a spork*

Same old, same old. Clark is regressing. That's bad! And what's everyone so excited about him using his heat vision? So he signed a ball without turning his head. Um, so what? I almost yawned when he used his heat vision again. Been there, done that.

Don't get me wrong, though. The parts with Chloe were really good. That is about up until she started taking over every computer in the world. Then I thought it was lame until they explained it, then it made sense...though the way it looked was lame.
I would've rather seen the people who's minds were being erased instead of looking like they were watching Youtube videos, just sitting there staring at the screen.

In short, Lana ruined the episode. The Legion was, um, okay. I didn't love them,
(At least not in a fangirlish way. Rokk was kinda hot, Garth was a cute fanboy,
and Saturn girl was neat. Too pretty (I'm envious), but neat.),
but I didn't hate them either. I thought it was a bit too soon and really unexpected to just have people popping in from the future.
What is this, Heroes?:lol:

Anyway, I don't care how it happened, I'm so glad Chloe got her memory back!
I cheered. I see the writers heared our pleas. Awesome!

If I watch it a couple more times, I might like it a little more, but it looked like
a regression of Clark and the same stuff we've seen before. Hopefully next week
will be better.

[dreamsofnever]

Oh, I forgot to add-I LOVED the last line with Rokk...

"Be careful in the coming days, Kal." *chills*

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


10/10 Did anyone notice Alicia Baker in the episode?

Yup! I thought it was interesting how prominent her photo and article were in the Wall of Weird book that they were paging through!

[Black Panda]

I really enjoyed this episode. I was so into the Brainiac V thing coming from Chloiac.

It was nice to see some action, and this episode was very intense. AM did a great job as Chloiac. TW did a great job bringing the pathos.

I liked how the Legion was nervous about changing too much history, and how they figured out that they'd already failed to prevent the change. I loved the Chloisy shout outs with the idea that she use a pen name.

I liked watching Saturn Girl manipulate Lana, that was fun. She's got cold streak.

[Bre723]

I gave it an 8.
Not as awesome as i expected, but still some great moments.
The legion was kinda dorky, but whatev. i REALLY liked all the superman references though.

[JordanElliot]

I gave it a seven... It had a great build up, and the hype for this episode was phenomenal, but I think it's end was a little cheesy. The Legion should have known about Clark's inability to fly... and Lightning Lad should have been portrayed slightly smarter. Thank God Chloe was kept alive, Allison Mack is a great actor and I don't think the show would be the same without her. I liked it, but can't wait until we get to see Kal fly.

[The Dark Knight74]

10. Easily the best of the season far. My only complaint is that Clark didn't confess to Chloe that he erased her memories of his secret. Other than that, all I can say is wow!! Why can't Geoff Johns write every ep.

[ForzaItalia]

Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it!

Better than Justice! Best episode since Season 2!

[ellives]

First time. heh.

About the episode, I was hoping... I guess my hopes were a little too high after the last episode aired. It all felt very rushed and seemed like the Legion was just added to bring viewers in after the hiatus. It was one of those episodes where at the end, everything wraps out and begins anew. It's probably just me but I hate those episodes.

It's mostly because the last episode was so good and this one was just meh. Too high of hopes I guess but I will say that because of those hopes, this ranks as maybe the second worst of the season.

[ginnyfan]

I gave this episode an 8.

Great post Badtoad. I agreed with most of what you said. I actually thought it was a great Clark episode. I loved the way he confronted the Legion about not killing people. It was nice to see him take a stand for something so forcefully.

Allison Mack did a great job playing creepy Chloiac.

I adored the Legion guys especially Rokk on whom I now have a huge crush. <3

I was confused by Lana's "destiny" and saddened that no one remembers Chloe in the future. My friend Shelley had a great idea that Clark prevented the future the Legionnaires were talking about.

Lois was even mentioned and for some odd reason, there was a lot of Lois in the "Previously on Smallville."

The best thing about this episode was Brainiac! I watched an animated movie or Superman TV show I don't know which and Brainiac was a sort of serial planet killer. He would collect the information from a planet and then kill it. In the cartoon, he'd done it several times. I adored that plot line. So I was completely jazzed to see that plot here. And Smallville added to it with Brainiac stealing info right out of people's brains! So cool Maybe that's the brain drain I've heard people talk about but this is my first time seeing it. It was very "Dr. Who." LOL!

I wonder if Doomsday gestated long enough for Davis to be completely gone. I hope not.

I was happy to hear a Chimmy mention but, as Badtoad says, Chloe getting her memories back was not executed well. It was kind of swept under the rug. Letdown.

Overall it was a great episode. A few jarring things bumped it down to an 8 but still great.

[vyperman7]

I loved Legion. Definitely a 10/10 episode for me. If I wanted to pick things apart and be extremely technical about it, it wouldn't be a 10. However, I am sick of being one of those nit-pickers who just complain for the sake of complaining. If you sit back and just enjoy the episode from a pure entertainment standpoint, it was a great episode. Tons of great forshadowing and mythos as well as guest heroes.

The pacing was quite good and I was dissapointed when it ended. Great forshadowing. The mention of the cape, glasses, and repeated mentions of flight were awesome. Speaking of flight - I do think it is a bit strange that Clark started working at the DP before he learns how to fly. I mean he is coming up on his 23rd birthday and still can't fly. In past versions Clark always flew by the time he was 18. Flight is long over due. I also liked how they made mention to knowing of Lois and even Jimmy Olsen. Kind of makes you wonder about Jimmy and Chloe's future as a couple though if they had never heard of Chloe, but they had heard of Jimmy. If they had heard of Jimmy, they should have heard of his wife. I hope to God, that means that Chloe and Jimmy will be getting a divorce. Allison Mack was so great as Brainiac and Davis finding out about who he will become was cool as well. I like the fact that they are having Brainiac start out as a human with emotions that doesn't want to hurt anyone. It makes the struggle and transformation into Doomsday that much better. I also really liked the baseball bit, even though I find it strange considering Clark never played baseball. They did that in Oracle as well when they said that Johnathan was really into baseball. Yet, they always billed him and Clark as two guys who were into football.

I liked two out of three actors who made up the Legion. Rokk and Imra were both great and the actors who played them did a good job. Especially Ryan Kennedy. Nailed the character in my opinion. I couldn't stand Calum Worthy aka Lightning Lad though. His line delivery was terrible, and it sucked because they made him the one that got to let all the pieces of future knowledge slip. It sucks that the worst actor got all the best lines.

My only real gripe for this episode is that the writers continue to make Lana Lang such an important character to the overall timeline of the mythos!! She is not supposed to be that important. I know that Kristin is only back for a select amount of episodes, but all of the Lana pimping almost made me sick to my stomach.

[Estro-gen X]

My only real gripe for this episode is that the writers continue to make Lana Lang such an important character to the overall timeline of the mythos!! She is not supposed to be that important. I know that Kristin is only back for a select amount of episodes, but all of the Lana pimping almost made me sick to my stomach.

Lana is really important to the mythos. I'm not the greatest fan of the Kreuk Lana but there is no doubting Lana Lang is incredibly important. In fact Geoff and Sterling Gates have recently brought her back into the comic books. Supergirl's new secret Identity is Linda Lang, niece of Lana.

[devilicus rebel]

I gave it a 7. Not bad overall and the Doomsday scene at the end was pretty sweet. Does this mean we won't see SW as Davis anymore?

[DWBSR620]

I give it a big ole 9! Excellent episode a further confirmation that this has been one of the best Smallville seasons, and here's hoping for one more. Take care.


Peace To All :cool:

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Long post. Skip at will :)

9/10 for me. I was nervous going in to this one, I'll be honest. But I told myself I was gonna be open minded and just watch and see. And it was a tight episode. Loved all the Legion stuff, thought Rokk was a great leader of the three - he came across as the responsible/big brother type and Imra was played as a softer, more feeling character which was in keeping with the fact she can read peoples thoughts and know what they're feeling. Garth came across as much, much younger and more immature which helped with the complete fanboy he was of Kal. It wouldn't have worked if he'd been played more mature, and a young, enthusiastic fanboy is more likely to ask questions and let information slip than someone more mature. So that worked for me. Also loved that despite the fact Clark wasn't what they expected him to be they came out of the experience with Brainiac knowing that at his core he was MORE. Going away with the first rule of saving lives at all costs because of Clark's determination not to kill Chloe was a lovely touch. Very Superman. Also seeing them combine powers to help Chloe, seeing them briefly in the sky, the rings... LOVED them. If there was ever a spinoff I'M THERE. Same as I would be for a Justice League spinoff... ;)

But then my nervousness for this episode was never about the Legion. I knew GJ would do a great job with them. It's like expecting a master chef not to be able to prepare a great meal. My nervousness was whether Clark would regress with the presence of Lana. And honestly? It was NOWHERE in the region of as bad as it could have been. I guess after season seven the only way was up. Not like it could get any worse realistically. (remind me I said that if we go downhill in the next three - k?) But I think sometimes, especially with how much Clark has matured this year, it's all too easy to expect him to be Superman too fast. Yes, I know, I know, not being able to fly at this stage is OLD and pretty PATHETIC - I think it's about damn time we saw him at least TRYING it. But he's still learning when it comes to everything else. He's learnt a lot and come a long way this season but just like someone training to be a brain surgeon or an astronaut or an astro-physicist he doesn't just pick everything up overnight. Personally, if I was about to have brain surgery, I'd like to think the guy with the knife had put several years into knowing what the crap he's at before he lifts the lid. And we're talking about a guy who will be responsible for the safety of an ENTIRE PLANET and it's people! You don't take a job like that on with considerable thought. And Clark's grounding in a small town with small town values has given him the kind of humility that makes him uncertain he can live up to that task. Not surprising. In this episode he did have a brief moment where he had to think about the fact protecting someone he loves might lead to the loss of millions of lives. We're not talking about deciding whether or not to put an old, faithful companion like Shelby to sleep and getting a new puppy here. So the guy had a moment of doubt. If he'd had a half hour to mull it over he'd have gone with his gut and done what he did anyway. It just so happened he had a time restraint and someone who knew him to talk it through with. That person was Lana. If it had been Lana possessed by Brainiac and Chloe who he was talking it through with I'd have been fine with that. If it had been Lois possessed by Brainiac and he talked it through with Oliver or Kara I'd have been fine with it too. So I don't have a problem with the fact that, on this occasion, it was Lana.

Which brings me to the main reason I was nervous. And despite the fact there have been times on this show when I've wanted to throw my TV out the window when Lana was written at Clark's expense, in Legion she was probably as well written as she's ever been. Her time onscreen wasn't wasted. There weren't undue bouts of melancholy and lingering looks and the lack of an 'The World Needs You' goes a long, LONG way with me. Yes, I'm one of the people that thinks her relationship with Clark has been drawn out for too damn long. And yes, I think her character has been written inconsistently in the past. But she didn't lecture Clark. She talked to him, let him discuss things with her, gave him a sounding board. It was angst free. ANGST FREE PEOPLE!!!!! And Imra is right, she is a PART of the reason Clark goes on to be Superman. Just like Martha and Jonathan and even Lex. Lana does have her own destiny. Everyone does. I don't think it's overly surprising that having been such a big part of Clark's life for so long she'll go on to do big things in her own way. And so long as they're not by kidnapping people, stealing money, trying to kill ex-husbands or turn into a witch then there's just as much reason to believe she'll be influenced enough by Clark to try and do good as there is to believe anything else. So why not? She's earned her place in Superman and Smallville lore. Even at the end when she questioned Imra about her relationship with Clark we didn't get a big angsty hint about love lost or trying again. So when she had the conversation with Clark about writing their own destinies it was a good set up for the next three episodes. I just hope they continue on this vein and can manage decent CLOSURE in an ANGST FREE manner.

So I didn't see any regression. It all made sense. The Legion were great and AM did an amazing job of portraying an emotionless, knowledge hungry Brainiac with a side-order of chillingly evil. Brushing over what Clark did when he took her memories was a bit of a cop out. Be interesting to see if that's brought up in the future. The decision certainly came back to bite him in the ass in a major way, so here's hoping we've learned something from that one CK. But I'd like to see it confronted. Chloe has a right to know what he did and to say how she feels about it, and you could see from Clark's expression when he asked her what she remembered that he knows that conversation isn't going to be an easy one. Having her go straight to Star City to see Jimmy was nice too. Showed she remembered everything about being married and the wedding so we know all her synapses were firing when she said 'I do.' And I liked that Rokk and Garth speculated about who she was and why they hadn't heard her name - they asked the exact same questions viewers of the show would like to know the answers to and even speculated on it, so that kinda put them in our shoes. Nice touch. And didn't give anything away, so we have to keep watching to see ;) But it'll be interesting to see what explanation the show comes up with for Chloe coming back from Star City without Jimmy in the next couple of episodes - having her go back and forth would give an explanation for less screen time in an episode as AM prepped for her directorial debut. But it doesn't explain why Lois stays away so I'd hope there's an explanation given for that at some point. The writing is DEFINITELY tighter this year and there's been more continuity so I'm optimistic...

Gotta say too that I loved the lighting in this episode. The almost ghost-like shades in the fortress and how when Brainiac touched a column the light would fade from it, the 'Bride Of Frankenstein' type messed up wedding dress, whatever it was they did to AM's eyes to make them take on that metallic glow - GREAT STUFF. Then the warm colours on the porch of the house at the end and the way the hanging baskets of flowers were similar colors to Chloe's wedding palette so we had a sense of it being the same time of year. Also liked the little attentions to detail like the fact the first time the Legion appeared they focussed on the flight ring. There wasn't a wasted shot in there. Even if the pictures of Lana and Clark still sitting around the place SEVEN MONTHS after they split up was a bit of a stretch for me. Who the hell DOES THAT?!

So yeah, all in all really, really enjoyed it. And am really glad it's back. Didn't leave me as hyped up as Odyssey did or with as big a grin on my face as I had at times during Committed but it was a tight episode with plenty of shout outs to the man of steel and a noticeable lack of ANGST.

Say what they want about AlMiles leaving the legacy for them to build on but imo the PS3 are showing us what Smallville could and SHOULD have been LONG BEFORE THIS.

[lana 9]

love it 10 I love lana in it and allison mack did amazing job in it too

[La Donna]

You could tell a comic book writer wrote this episode. This episode had the most mytho's references than any other episode by far. I'll probably do a longer review, but there were some things I've got now.

All of the Lois in the beginning "previously on Smallville" had me excited thinking there must be a Clois hint or mention in the episode. I was disappointed. While her name came up, it was mundane and had nothing whatsoever to do with Clois romantically. I don't see how they are going to explain Lois remaining in Star City, unless they say she hit on a story while out there and she's staying to finish the story (I wish) and allow Chloe to go back and forth so she can help Clark out when he needs her.

As for Brainiac choosing Chloe, I think the line was meant as "I choose Chloe because I know you wouldn't hurt someone you cared about". Chloe was also the perfect host because of her meteor power (even if it's no longer active), her friendship with Clark, her hacking "magic powers", and her previous Brainiac infection. I wish the truth came out about Clark choosing to make Chloe forget his secret. That was very disappointing how they just skipped right over a full explanation. I figured she'd get her memory back by the end of the episode, but there was nothing about Clark's decision. I hope they don't drop that, and that the truth comes out at some point.

I loved it when Chloe told Clark that in the future, she would want him to sacrifice her if it meant saving the world. I hope that doesn't have to happen, but I think it's great that a friend of Clark told him that.

When Lana said that the Clark she knows wouldn't doubt himself, I couldn't believe it. I felt like that line was a horrible joke. That was a huge complaint about Clark in the past seasons. When they said that Lana sacrificed for Clark so much (up to that point in time), I was wondering how on Earth they were going to explain that. I had hoped that Lana would survive and go on to do good things when she left the show. However, they make her out to be a big time Superhero by saying she has an incredible future ahead of her, and she does so many great things that she's known for. I just thought that was overkill, big time. I'd be just as shocked if they had said that about Lois or Chloe, too.

But, I did like Lana in this episode. I disliked some of the things that the other characters said about Lana, but I liked Lana. She was strong, helpful, and totally on Chloe's side as well as Clarks. I hope that this Lana remains for the next three episodes. I just think the other characters made her out to be Wonder Woman instead of a good friend to Clark who was important in his life. I wish Clark didn't need to be talked into his decisions, and constantly reminded of who he is and who he's supposed to be. I didn't mind his attitude in this episode, but I didn't really like how Lana had to talk him into what he was going to do and who he is as a person. I don't blame Lana for doing it, because in most of the scenes she was correct. I do hate that anyone has to tell him these things, though.

The glasses, flight and tights line was good, and should end the debate on if that will be in Smallville Clark's future once he becomes Superman. I don't mean on the show, because that won't happen on Smallville, but now we know that they will get him there and that Smallville's Superman Clark will still be mytho's Superman Clark, even if we won't see it on Smallville. They're headed there, which is nice. I have no idea how the glasses will come to be, even though Hex has the idea. I don't see how it makes sense though.

I was mixed about the Chloe references. If they know so much about Clark's pre-Superman days (like the baseball), it doesn't make sense that they would have never heard of Chloe. She's been involved in so many of Clark's activities. However, when they mentioned Clark possibly keeping Chloe Sullivan a secret in order to protect her, I guess I can see why "Chloe Sullivan" wouldn't be known, but I still think it's a weak idea. Even if she changes her name, she was Chloe for many years, and I don't see how that could be erased from history.

I don't think the name change has anything to do with Chlois, as they clearly had heard of Lois in the future and mentioned her first, and of course every other thing that proves that Chlois won't happen. I think it will be an idea of how they end Chloe's story.... maybe. She could either become a Justice League member, and change her identity in that way, or she could go into a Clark created "witness protection" in order to live the rest of her life away from the drama of Clark's life. I think they set up the alternative futures in order to give us the two logical outcomes for Chloe. Either she lives or dies obviously, but I think the two clearest choices for her would be living and becoming a part of the battle against bad guys (via Justice League, etc.), or she'll die and it will push Clark into becoming Superman. I hope she doesn't die, and I hope Clark doesn't decide to be Superman only after a friend dies. That will weaken the decision to be Superman.

I guess I feel like they added in more future references than I thought they would, and I just wasn't in love with what they said all the time. Too much about Lana the hero, and a mixed bag with Chloe. I'm pretty angry that they used Lois so much before the episode started. I don't know if they are trying to keep Lois fans tuning in for the hope that the story goes somewhere with her, or if they just wanted a flash of everyone in the cast before they started again after the break. Either way, I wasn't happy that the romance was not hinted at in any way since in the flashes, Lois's scenes were almost all romance related. And then in the preview for next week, we again get a Clois romance flash, but the main scenes were about Lana and Clark. They said something about sacrificing what he loves or something, and showed Lois and Clark's parting from bride, but then they showed Clark and Lana and the kiss (I think), so who knows what they intend. I expected scenes in the preview to be about MM, Clark undercover as a cop, and perhaps a brief shot from Clark and Lana's dinner date. But the whole thing was romance related or support related between Clark and Lana.

I'm still crossing my fingers for some Clark reveals about his feelings for Lois, and a conversation or two between Clark and some other character about how he feels about her in the next three episodes. However, now that I know they enjoy false advertising, I'm not really going to expect it. Oh well, I guess I'll have to wait and see.

I actually gave the episode an 8, because I really enjoyed it. I had fun watching it, and loved the Legion. But, some of the things I've mentioned just stuck out for me, and pulled me out of my enjoyment at times.

[fortress7081]

Very good indeed!The Best epi so far...:):):).I'm so happy with the Clana scene and minus Lois.:):cool:

[amberdawn]

I gave it a 6. I loved the Legion, but there was too much Lana crap.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

8 out of 10 for me.
I enjoyed it and like I said in a previous post, Geoff did a great job. I just wish there was less Lana worship. We get it KK is only around for 3more episodes and Lana needs a good send off, but please remember Clark and other characters that will REMAIN on the show.

Take care

[Mr.Magic]

Typical Geoff Johns fare + Lana = 6/10.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I'm giving this one a 6, and overall, I found it disappointing. For one thing, there didn't seem to be that much Clark in the first 1/2 of the episode. Secondly, Johns made the same mistake the SV writers make very often, that is that they don't allow Clark to fully express what he's thinking and feeling, but instead have others TELL him what he's thinking, or assure him of what he should think. Its frustrating.

I had been told about how much Johns gets Clark, and Superman, and how that will shine through. I'm not sure I saw that here. While we did see Clark's resolve to save Chloe, and I very much like the ending where he convinced the Legion to come around to his line of thinking, I didn't especially feel the writing for Clark in this episode. Maybe because Johns was too busy making sure someone was shining Lana's butt.

Wow, the Lana canonizing was off the chain, wasn't it? Good gracious, the next 4 episodes will probably have her curing cancer, bringing about world peace, and be elected President. Either Johns suffers from the same disease as the SV writers, or he was overruled here bigtime.

The Chloe as Brainiac thing, and her getting her memories restored would've been far more effective if we'd seen some of the aftermath. Instead, Chloe was just fine, than seemed sunshine and happiness as she packs to go off to her hospitalized hubby. And Clark should've told her what he did. Talk about a lack of reaction. AM did fine as Brainiac, though I wasn't so much blown away. She's obviously an extremely capable actress, so I'm going to blame some of the issues I had on direction. Sorry Glen. :\

TW did a so-so job, and anyone that knows me knows how much it pains me to say that. He was really solid as the episode went on, but seemed strangely removed in the first part of the episode.

And really, The Persuader was sort of a waste of time, wasn't he?

And the Lana pictures in the house? Come on SV. That crap just makes Clark look emotionally stunted. Is it necessary to regard Clark so little to elevate Lana? Really?

So, I was underwhelmed.

I do want to give props to the actors that played Rokk and Garth. They were wonderful. The actress that played Imra was a bit weak, and I was totally distracted by her blue eye shadow.

I just don't get it though....Superman never passed on that "Don't kill" thing before? How does that even make sense?

Not much to say about the Davis stuff.

Like I said, its a 6. Its a bit generous. JMHO

Sadly, very sadly I felt the same way, especially what I bolded. It could have been a GREAT episode, but instead they made Clark's character regress, and it changed the whole tune.

In one of KK's interviews she stated that she had a lot of say in how Lana was written, and that differed greatly with how the writers wanted to portray her.

Unfortunately, it seemed that Rokk had all the traits I would have liked to have seen in Clark last night. I was more interested in watching his character than Clark which doesn't happen often when there are guest stars.

I thought they could have done more with Clark speaking to Chloe as well about what had happened.

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I gave it a 6. I loved the Legion, but there was too much Lana crap.

It definitely poured cold water on the episode for me. I'm a little disappointed in the writers I have to say, and I've been so happy this season with the way they've written Clark. Character regression was my worst fear come true with Lana Lang's return.

Special effects were really good though, and Rokk was all Alpha! Loved him!!

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I gave this episode an 8.

Great post Badtoad. I agreed with most of what you said. I actually thought it was a great Clark episode. I loved the way he confronted the Legion about not killing people. It was nice to see him take a stand for something so forcefully.

Allison Mack did a great job playing creepy Chloiac.

I adored the Legion guys especially Rokk on whom I now have a huge crush. <3

I was confused by Lana's "destiny" and saddened that no one remembers Chloe in the future. My friend Shelley had a great idea that Clark prevented the future the Legionnaires were talking about.

Lois was even mentioned and for some odd reason, there was a lot of Lois in the "Previously on Smallville."

The best thing about this episode was Brainiac! I watched an animated movie or Superman TV show I don't know which and Brainiac was a sort of serial planet killer. He would collect the information from a planet and then kill it. In the cartoon, he'd done it several times. I adored that plot line. So I was completely jazzed to see that plot here. And Smallville added to it with Brainiac stealing info right out of people's brains! So cool Maybe that's the brain drain I've heard people talk about but this is my first time seeing it. It was very "Dr. Who." LOL!

I wonder if Doomsday gestated long enough for Davis to be completely gone. I hope not.

I was happy to hear a Chimmy mention but, as Badtoad says, Chloe getting her memories back was not executed well. It was kind of swept under the rug. Letdown.

Overall it was a great episode. A few jarring things bumped it down to an 8 but still great.

Great post, ginnyfann. I agree here with you as well.

I loved Rokk!! If only Clark had more of that "Rokk" in him last night it would have made the episode so much better for me.

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But now they want to suddenly make Lana into a person who is wiser than Clark Kent. And of course to achieve this feat they make Clark into a complete idiot who actually thinks that killing Chloe could be an option. Unbelievable. This is what we get when Lana is around.

But thankfully she was there to set him straight. Thank you Lana Lang. </SARCASM>

I was read to give Lana and her story arc another chance but this is just the same garbage from the previous years. What exactly is her arc? Keeping secrets again? *yawn*


And Saturn Girl being all "you have a great destiny" was laughable. What exactly is Lana Lang's destiny (comic wise)? Hmm...marrying Pete, having a baby and naming him Clark, divorcing Pete, fawning over Clark and trying to be a homewrecker.

Oh Lana! You're future is amazing!!!

Seriously. Were we supposed to swallow this crap? Lana Lang has a great future ahead of her? Give me a break. Seriously. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

I hate to say it, but what should have been more emphasis on Choiac, the Legion and Clark turned into a Lana Lang centered episode. It's really too bad, because after all the articles out there about this episode it was an opportunity to get more fans on board and show Clark as being "Supermanlike".

Instead Rokk stole the show! If only Clark was more like Rokk! Very disappointed in the writers this morning.

[FlashInSV]

Classic Geoff Johns. LOVED Garth (but then again, I always do). Imra and Rokk seemed a bit out of place. TOO MUCH LANA. Please, get rid of her, she's only stalling us.
I give it an 8 (The Legion flight ring rocked!I want one!) and I take two points away for Lana thinking there might still be hope for her and Clark yet (she questioned Imra about it) and for Chloe leaving for Star City, without Lois coming back.

[stenochick]

I think the vampire episode was way better.
:rotfl:

You are just a ray of sunshine around this place!:lol:

[beatles4]

Cedric, your avatar is hilarious! I love reading your reviews. Anyway, too much Lana for me to rate it 10, plus I really missed Lois. 9/10 since I've always been a Legion fan (the older comics, though).

[Fallen One]

Thanks Annette. Are you not a cat person, too? My review should be up tonight, or at the latest tommorrow morning.

[babyluthor]

after 1st watch I give it a 7. Not the best episode but not bad either. I liked the concept of the Legion and how they kinda hint at how great Clark will become. The casting for the Legion however I thought was just ok.

It was cool how they gave him the ring at the end. I wonder if they will use it to go into the future. That really opens up a lot of possibilities.

I'm glad Chloe is back to her normal self. It's nice to know that Clark would not give up on her even though there was so much at stake for the future. So the Legion has not heard of Chloe? I wonder why not if she is such a big part of Clark's life.

[stenochick]

9/10

Another very good episode for Smallville. The writing was nice. I liked all of the Superman references. I like who they picked to play the Legion members, especially Rokk. AM did a nice job as Brainiac, although there were a few spots that could have been better. I liked the way Tom delivered his speech to the Legion in the Daily Planet.

My only major problems are that it seems like there was no purpose to taking away to Chloe's memory and the Persuader fight could have been longer.

Also, there were, like, a few references to Lana and everyone flips out. I'm not even a fan of the character and the bias against her is evident to me. The bias is old and annoying, but what should I expect? :rolleyes:

I've held my tongue in this thread because I don't know quite what to say. I have not liked Lana since season 7 and was happy she left the show for season 8. But this Lana was different. She was very likeable. But, that creates an even bigger problem for me.

They have had Lois on Smallville since season 4 and in season 8 are showing her and Clark getting closer. By keeping Lana on the screen and so attractive and likeable and emotionally healthy, why would Clark ever want to part ways with her?

This begs the question, "Is Lois Lane the rebound girl because Clark can't have Lana who is made of awesome?" I hope not. It does not do any justice to the Clark and Lois of the 70-year myth. I am going conservative here and would like Smallville to preserve the Clark and Lois of the myth no matter what it takes.

This is the Lana I wanted to see in seasons 5, 6, and especially 7 when they had all the time and space in the world to get married and be happy together. Now that they've done so much in season 8 with Clark and Lois, it's too late.

But, I have to say that the preview montage they showed with Clark and Lana looks really intriguing. I still cannot figure out WTH is going on.

I liked Legion a lot. I wish they could have incorporated more of the cast, but they have such limited time to tell these stories. Every minute is precious to the plot. AM did great. I still have to rewatch it. I usually like it even more after I watch it a second time.

[kaimau]

It's funny that everyone that watches SMALLVILLE is still going on and on about Lana (they need to just leave it alone and let the writers finish Lana's story and then everyone can be happy)...the writers wanted to rewrite Clark Kent's life in Smallville in a different "universe" and that's what they want for Clark and all the other characters around him (maybe some of the situations don't jive all the time, but really what TV show ever made any complete sense) and if the fans don't care for that "universe" then don't watch the series or enjoy this for what it is. Remember it's all about entertainment and if ratings are high then the series can go on for another season. But I would like for them to let Clark fly out of his "Smallville" cage already and go on to his "destiny" journey to becoming SUPERMAN and finish the series.

[shase]

Yeah really good episode.
I wouldn't mind lana's presence if there wasn't the clana factor...it's so annoying.

[Lurchdaddy87]

I thought the episode was good but not great. I gave it a eight because of all the Superman references a good storyline along with decent acting and cool special effects. However, I do have a problem with the fact that they brought Chloe's memory back and never really explain why or how it happened. Another problem I had was doomsday brainiac, said 12 days, so are we supposed to assume 12 days went by since brainiac's destruction for doomsday to break out of his shelter. One more thing, how can the fortress be black still brainiac has been sucked out of Chloe and been taken from time itself. So how can the fortress be black still. And maybe only one who found it ironic that the Legion had heard of everyone's that is part of the Superman mythology and not the only person that smallville added who is still on the show. I do not know. It just cracked me up little bit when that was said. Overall a pretty good episode in my opinion 8/10

That was one of the best parts of this episode, it left so many questions left to be answered. About the 12 days time is faster in the fortress, remember last year when Clark was suck there. Chloe prolly remember's clarks secret because she had brainiac's memories and Brainiac knows Clarks secret. I gave it a 9 because it had awesome FX And the Dialogue between Lighting Lad and Clark. My favorite line was the stab at the "No Flight, No Tights"

[shadoo]

Legion was a great episode thus, I gave it an 8, it could have been a 9 or 10 but then, that would be dishonest. Geoff Jones is a brilliant writer, we need more episodes written by him. "Brainiac 5 will make an appearence to take on some incarnation of himself", now that, would be sweet, but alas maybe not.

Kristen looked beautiful, Chloe looked solid (a little extra abut the body), winner: Chloe, she looked ravishing even when she fiend rapidity.

Tom Welling maybe the greatest incarnation of Superman ever, I can't see Superman without seeing him.

Lana now sees herself as a driving force which affects aliens across the galaxy, she carries it with reserved elation (Geoff Jones as Kristen's swami?).

Clark Kent is still dumb: A strange looking guy with an axe goes to hit him; and not knowing who this guy is or what abilities he has, Clark just stands there and allows himself to be hit.

George Reeve's superman would only allow bullets to come at him, but the moment some one threw a gun, that dude ducked, Clark Kent needs to do the same. Persuader needs to return, clearly that guy is dangerous.

[SupermanRox]

I think it was good. Not the best but pretty good. Too much Lana. Not enough Lois. Wonder if they will bring The Persuader back? hmmmm

[Super Maverick]

10!

[skylar]

Most every one feels the same way it was good episode but to much Lana. Making Clark go in reverse than forward with his own decision he makes. somebody always has to tell about his destiny.

[scifigirl]

I gave this one an 8. In general, I thought it was a fun episode; but, it did not blow me away.

The Legion outshined Clark. That is just wrong and that is my biggest gripe.

Unlike the majority, I didn't have a problem with Lana's presence. My problem was that Lana and Clark went from awkwardland in Bride to having no issues or tension and seemly on the verge of getting back together.

[Joelito]

I voted with 8. It was good, not many things to tell Clark from the future...I hope they return.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

The legion stuff was pretty crappy, it felt like childish comic geekism meets smallville reality and Clark was made to look like a total n00b.

Alison brainiac was cool.

[LoveHurts38]

I actually did enjoy the episode...gave a 10.

[superpal1]

I really enjoyed this episode. The Legion was handled perfectly. I like that even though they started to have doubts about Clark, that in the end he acted the way Superman would and impressed upon them that all human life is worth saving. I truly do wish that he would start to show some signs of flight. I dont mean to have him wisking off in the blink of an eye, but he should be doing something by now. I also really loved the references made into the show about each persons past and future, esp the fact that no one knows who Chloe is in the future.

[Jaderoyale]

*runs in, waving arms everywhere like a mad woman*
Since Bride, i've decided to start doing reviews, so here it comes ;)

Now, you should know me by now, anyone who doesn't, you're lucky (:lol:) - i have HIGH expectations. I'm a die hard Lois fan, so knowing that she wouldn't be in this episode really threw me, for a long time. It was putting me off it, along with the fact I tend to over spoil myself and therefore the episode becomes meaningless; though this hasn't happened yet during this season. I must admit. During the coming days i was excited, TOO exicted, but i was also nervous. I haven't watched any spoiler clips, have kept away from the spoilers of Legion as best i can. Is this going to be the first episode of S8 to disappoint me? The answer is simple; No.

I've watched it three times already. The first time was to analyse every detail as best i could. The second and to analyse and attempt to watch it normally. The third? That was just for joy. So here we go.

Firstly. The recap. I am SUCKER for recaps, the best one so far to me was the season opener. This one? Okay, its just inched closer. I was literally bouncing on my seat. The voiceover of Lois, "Why do these terrible things keep happening to us?" and showing everything seemingly terrible thats happened. Thats what i call tension. Now, onto my review properly.

Opening scene. Good. Clark has been searching for Chloe. Wonderful. Hmmm Lana wants to go to Isis.... okay, go then. Now, quick. Don't come back. Ah yes Clark you go instead. No? Lana no. You are not a different person after 7 months. Its not possible. I don't buy it. Clark don't you dare buy it. I mean it. Oh great. A hug. The beginning of the end. And shes gone. I can breath. I swear whenever shes on the screen with Clark i can't breathe. I'm scared shes going to jump on him and cling on for dear life. Nothing against Lana, whole lot of hate towards the Clana. I hope theres not too much of it in the episode, i'm feeling sick today as it is.

The arrival of the Legion; I knew, as soon as The Persuader was revealed in the spoilers, Clark was obviously going to get hit. Hurt, whatever. His axe cuts through ANYTHING, including Clark. So there he appeared, tried to slice Clark in too and oh! Whats this... do we have... is that Cosmic Boy? Yes. Yes it is. Oh. Snap. Saturn Girl. OH! Ron Weasley! Sorry, LIGHTNING LAD. I can already tell hes going to be my favourite. Oh this is awesome. Kal-El. Oh Clark looks like hes going to wet himself. OH. "Where's your cape?". Yes. He is definetly my favourite. Over all opening scene, good good GOOD. Would have preferred more of The Persuader, but i've got Lightning Lad to obssess over now.

Next scene. I'm finding Imras voice rather attractive. I offically love Garth. He is absoultely wonderful. Hes so excited. Perfect choice for the role, perfect. "Its against Legion code,". Yes Rokk, it is. No Clark don't shout at them. You know nothing. Oh Tom is looking HANDSOME, i wouldn't mind... sorry, back to the episode. Ah Rokk's speech. Good, very good. Oh my god, i offically love Garth. He's my new obssession. Bart and Garth. Phantom Zone crystal. So Persuader came to make sure Brainiac stays in Chloe. Interesting. Didn't see that coming... makes sense for his short, yet violent visit. Ohhhh tense. Yet again. Good scene.

Fortress. Oh this can't be good. Davis. Creepy looking Chloe. *shudders* I don't get scared easily but i want my pillow. Where is it. Oh god Chloe's freaking me out. Sorry, Chloiac. Oh Allison, good job. Her voice. What is with the womens voices tonight? I'm finding them attractive and now hating my own. I am not enjoying the way she's walking. Oh Davis. You poor thing. Like this scene, AM did an amazing job, bit freaked out by her now.

Seriously, i'm in love with Garth. I have really taken to these three as the Legion. I don't think they could have picked anyone better... i just realised i miss Lois. I could just imagine her walking into the barn demanding to know if Clark had found Chloe, but alas. Omg kill Chloe? What. He won't, i know that, but alright Rokk, morbid much?

FLYING. GAAAAH. Clark, just do it already. OH MY GOD. LOIS MENTION. Oh. I am so happy. GOOD BOY ROKK. Oh, STING. "Never heard a thing about Chloe Sullivan,". Ouch. Man. I can so tell this is Geoff writing. Geoff. I love you. "No glasses, no flights, no tights,"
ANVILS. SO MANY ANVILS. My heart can't take much more.


Isis. *eye twitches* No Imra. SHE IS NOT PART OF THE REASON. This scene is making me angry. If Lana dares to convince Clark to kil Chloe.... i will murder. I didn't like this scene.
Talon. Garth!! Sorry..... hang on. NO. Chloes death will not inspire him to take flight. Big mistake Geoff. BIG MISTAKE. I can hear fans throwing objects at their TV's right now. I didn't like this scene either.

Fortress. Again. Oh look, creepy Chloe. Man, Tom is good with the facial acting. Oh, hunger. Dirty. Sorry. There is something really scary about Chloe lifting Clark up. So swift like he was a feather. Odd, completely odd. Gah! Davis. Oh dear.

I like Rokk. He has so much faith. Garth stop with the whining, your annoying me now. I don't want you to annoy me. Isis. Again. Lana, he's not the Clark you know anymore. Get over it. Okay, whys Chloiac at the DP? Oh yes, power. Oh gosh not again. Veritas flashback. Oh!!!! GARTH! Thats it. Thats right. I'm getting excited again. The past few scenes have let me down slightly. I got to say, i am missing James Marsters as Brainiac. *sigh* AM is doing a great job, i just miss James.

Oh Garth can't do it. Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Man this is tense. Clark in this century teaching the Legion about morals. I literally want to applaud. Techno exorcism. Oh my goodness. This scene is TENSE. OH MY. AHHHHHHH. I'm sorry. Man. Whoa. That scene was GOOD. Whoa. I want to applaud. Oh what the heck, i'm going to.

Oh, Chloes going to see Jimmy. Second Lois mention. Is that is Clark? YOU ALMOST KISSED THE WOMAN. I knew it. I KNEW, SHE WOULD REMEMBER HIS SECRET. Oh well. Nice two lasted episodes there. Kent farm. Ah, let yourself in Lana. Ask about Clarks future why don't you. Good Imra, though i wish you'd mentioned Lois. Barn. Hahaha. Sign it. Man, Garth. Oh again, a TRUE smile from Clark. We are blessed this season aren't we? Oh. Brainiac 5 mention. OH. HE'S GOT A RING. What. Rokk. No. Don't you dare say that. The days ahead? Oh gosh.

Oh must we end on a Clana scene? *pouts* Whoa. This is reminscent of the earlier seasons. Clana chat on the porch. Oh Lana be quiet. Sorry. STOP IT. I can't handle her telling him what to do. WHOA. Transition. Smash. OH MY GOD. I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT.

*breathes*
Okay. Right. Gather thoughts.
And lets go.
Overall? I absolutely, loved it. If you can't tell by my scene by scene excitement. The acting, as usual, was absolutely superb. AM blew me away as Brainiac, she really did. I was proud of her. TW, as usual, i want to just cling onto him forever. The Legion as i've said, the perect actors were chosen, i'm very happy with them. KK.... i have no problems AT ALL with KK as an actress, she's gorgeous and works well with whats shes given. I personally think PS3 are trying to redeem her, rectify the mistakes ALMiles made from S5 onwards, but for some its a little too late and i understand that. I'm not buying the whole Lana being there for him thing right now. If they'd have started that properly in S5 i would have been happy. But right now, meh.

The directing. Glen Winter, he brought us Committed, hes not brought us Legion. Yet again, he has done the most AMAZING job he could have done. His directing ability is fantastic, the way he manages to pin point the light; for example, when Clark was injured, the light was directed at his cut, not at him, the cut being the most evidable part to us watching. Glen, i applaud you.

GEOFF. Oh. Geoff. Thank you so much for being born. Thank you, for writing this episode. Thank you, for restoring my faith in this Clark Kent becoming Superman. I wish you hadn't given us so many Clana anvils and so forth, i wish you'd mentioned Lois before. But to bring the LOS to us, so effortlessly and brilliantly. Well. I love you.

I know, that we're all probably going to disagree on this episode. Some may be unhappy with the way Clark was overshadowed shall we say? But this wasn't Justice, he was proactive in this. He may not have been held in the greatest light for the first half, but we must remember that this Clark is different to the Superman Clark, what with the storylines he's been given in the past *glares at ALMiles*

I really, really enjoyed this episode. Truely. I want to give it a 9. Because, there was no Lois. Cheap shot, silly mistake. I missed her, i really did. They could have used her in this and mentioned her more. Then there was the Clana. But. I'm going to forget that.


I'm giving it a 10.
Yes. A 10. My 3rd of Season 8. This now being my 2nd favourite of S8, the first being Identity. I'm worried now though. I don't know whether Bulletproof will beat this.

[Bilza]

I must say I've always dreaded that the show will lose some of its creative spark in terms of storyline. Dont get me wrong, I've loved almost every single episode and season up to now. However, last night's episode legion was a bit of a let down, too corny to be specific. Apart from the blonde girl I thought the whole plot was some what meaningless. Ok some legions from the future save Clark and talk about his destiny. What was really strange is how they keep bringing up that Lana is the reason why Clark turns out to be who he will be in the future. I'm thinking is that the best smallville can come up with. It wasn't a terrible episode and there were some dramatic scenes especially with Doomsday. However, even the Doomsday plot could have been handled better. I think we need to see more of character development like we used to get in previous seasons with some fantastic actors. Last night the acting was average and cheesy especially with the ginger guy who frankly I found annoying lol.

I can live with all these comic book heroes and villains but they have to bring out a storyline that fits the show, not just throw in a couple of characters and cheesy plots just to make a couple of kids happy. The main reason why I watched smallville isn't just because I want to see super powers and all amazing special effects. I want to see good storylines, great acting, alot more serious approach to the plot. That's what made this show so addictive, that's why I look at someone like Lex and enjoy his story and his character development a lot more than Clark. Smallville is known to be Sci-Fi but Legion for me went a step too far with all that fantasy and really no real substance to the plot. It all seemed a bit rushed and didn't have that special effect on me like in previous seasons or episodes.

I just didn't take this episode seriously because it was all simply a bit too corny for my liking. There was one scene when they turned up at a railway track and I'm thinking shouldn't they just made that scene and conversation in a previous scene in the barn. What was the point in flying next to a railway track to have that conversation. I agree that Lana's role in all this is pointless how she takes all the "Chloe lines" to Clark. Clark's destiny mainly because of her? I'm thinking seriously the writers could have come up with something alot better than that?!

6/10

[cma_454]

I originally gave this episode a 5, but that's not really fair or accurate.

Looking at it as dispassionately as possible, it's a good episode.

What dragged it down for me was the regressive Lana worship. Not so much what was in this episode, but the thought we're going to have to put up with it for three more episodes after this.

Give Lana a good send off. Throw some bones to the long time Lana fans. End things on an upbeat and positive note for Lana (give her a bright future). All good.

But please, don't drag it out, and don't regress Clark.

Please. Move. On!

[Fly by guy]

I gafe it a 7. The "Lad" needed to man up a bit. I like that they are FINALLY moving Lana to a point where she will be of value to the world in the future and not just some guy's arm candy. With only three eps left for KK, the haters don't have to worry about the Clana being forced down their throats.
Why did Chloe get her memory back? Is Brainiac stronger than AI Jor-el? Oh, and where the heck is Shelby. Shouldn't we be getting the warning barks when "strangers" pop up in the barn. He's about as useless as season 6's arc.

[Tompouce]

Yes, I give it a 10. I like everything about Clark is this epi and that is which counts for me....That is all for the moment, I am just happy. I am gonna read what you are thinking to put my ideas in place lol.

[LuckyLois]

I too feel there was something off with last nights episode that I can't quite put my finger on, maybe it was that there was no Lois. My 8 year old was looking for her too and complained that she is one of the best things about Smallville.

If the LEGION even felt their hero was just not adding up, they were not alone. We have seen Clark make so much progress this season, to see it all start to go down the drain was disturbing. I really feel that the episodes with Lois in them bring out the best in Clark. Period. This has nothing to do with being a shipper either since I have been a fan of all the girls. Clark is just too indecisive and confused. In the end he was trying to finally take some charge but it left me frustrated.

The Legion was great. Rokk had a real leaders presence and I liked the way he calmed Clark down, (reminded me of Jonathan) when he got upset. Irma also had a quiet strength, even going up against Brainiac which must have been hard since mind control is his forte. I could have done without her putting Lana up on a pedestil, and Garth reminded me of Bart and was cute in the role.

Allison is always great but Chloe has been bothering me this entire season. There is still something not right with her, mark my words, somethings afoot in the future with her.

Tom I think, must be ready to shoot himself in the foot. His character, it feels to me is always being held back. He does a remarkable job with what material he is given, but I feel like the other characters are always allowed to shine more. This is first and foremost a show about him and I would have liked him in the spotlight more and in a more positive way. Bring back the Clark Kent we have started seeing before this episode.

I wonder if the writers strike hadn't happened and KK finished last season on a good note, what type of season this could have continued to be, instead of being interrupted with this dragged out story line.

[suzieQ]

Loved it! Lana , the heart of this show is back. Clark and Lana together gives Smallville back its Martha and Jonathan appeal. The meaningful heart to heart talks that reflect in Clark that he is more than just an Alien. His Humanity is the one element that separates him from those like the Legion or Justice League........it makes Clark unigue. Lana, sees that aspect in him more than anyone, she has loved him and been loved by him. She knows his history and his struggles, she believes in him. Clark needs to hear that, at this point in his transformation, ......once he crosses over into Superman, he doesn't need to hear words of encouragement, he will know what is the right thing to do.

The Kents taught him life lessons, so did Lana and Chloe. They shaped him. Clark hearing counsel from them is natural and refreshing.......he is humble and a bit insecure.....but that is part of his journey. That is what has been rewarding and frustrating to watch. He is not regressing and especially not with Lana tonight.....in reality.....he had a defining moment, a mantra that he will now live by. Lana helped him to validate that within himself. That is PROGRESSION!

[Tompouce]

I think this episode was well done. I will say it again because it needs to be heard about a billion times, but Allison Mack is one of the most amazing young talents out there! She was brillant as Chloiac. Also seing Doomsday look all menacing at the end was icing on the cake.
ITA Allison Mack is amazing, more and more:)

[Alania]

Loved it! Lana , the heart of this show is back. !


What was that?

[geminis]

Cedric, I can't wait for the review and I love the new avi; loved the aardvark, but the kitten is awesome! For the bonus add on, would it be Geoff Johns and the SV writers?...

Jade, love your review too. I'm happy you are doing a play by play like Cedric. Garth was definitely amusing, but he had his whiny annoying bits too, unlike fav Bart.

I found a lot of truth in what BadToad and LaDonna said also.

For me, this episode was all right, just very uneven and that wasn't only because my DVR kept bobbling. Geoff Johns is not a regular writer for Smallville, so in part, it felt a bit like a struggle between the two; there wasn't a perfectly cohesive mesh between the two viewpoints. I'm going to hold my judgement on the writing for the second half of the season until the next episode because of Johns' influence for this one.

The acting along with the script had moments of brilliance as well as what the heck parts. More specifically, Chloe as Brainiac: I felt she wavered somewhat, and maybe wasn't as forceful as I would have liked. Of course, that could be because she is following James Marsters performance; I wasn't sure of him, either, but he convinced me. It wasn't all bad, but I wish she had attacked the words with more force during her talk with Davis. Just my opinion as a fan of animation and voice actors. Love Chloe for bringing up Lois, but the scene felt a little flat because as far as we knew, Jimmy was in bad shape in Star City and her talking about going to see him sounded a little too blase for my taste. They may think they're in love but it's not a love that will last. The return of Chloe as a secret keeper for Clark has me happy though. Poor Clark, thinks he's doing something to protect Chloe and it turns around and bites him. It might have been interesting to have a return of a naive Chloe, innocent of his powers for a little bit longer, but I'm glad she knows again, and how they did her memory return works for me.

As for Lana; more unevenness. The whole Isis discussion with Imra was repulsively nauseating. Her scenes with Clark were actually something I almost enjoyed in comparison. And holy crap, she looks good.

Can't touch Clark. Even when he was somewhat vacillating, he was superbly awesome. I'm not going to bad mouth Clark any more, even when the writing for him reeks to high heaven.

The Legion. Loved their first live show. Johns was right, the casting was terrific. I have to humbly disagree with BadToad, I liked Imra. Her voice was captivating and the makeup, while heavy handed, worked for me. Rokk was suitably leaderlike and Garth was equally enthusiastic and annoying. Loved everything about them, even Garth as over the top whiny fanboy. (He still can't top Bart though) The Persuader was literally on again, off again. That was all right by me. We got a nod, but not the whole focus, which was more suitably on Brainiac and somewhat of Doomsday. They said Lois Lane's name first, before Lana's, YES!!! Wish we could have had more of a nod to her, but at least she wasn't completely forgotten. Where the Legion fell down for me was Imra and her whole Lana love fest. Blech. The way Imra was talking she sounded more important than Superman. NOOOOOOOO, PS3, what are you doing?????

It also felt like there was something missing from this episode and I know exactly what it is: no Lois Lane. She is much more important and relevant to Superman's future than Lana, so it was always going to miss the mark, from the moment I knew she wouldn't appear and my feelings were completely justified. She adds an extra spark and a sparkle to Clark's eye. While I felt chemistry between Clark and Lana at the end, it didn't have the same feel as when Lois and Clark are together. Lois competes with Clark and pushes him; in part because she doesn't know what he can really do, so she sees herself as his superior in some aspects. Lana does know and it's a different kind of pushing that she does. She helps him but pushes him to do it alone because she knows she is not his equal. Lois on the other hand, takes more risks, she gets out there and gets dirty and makes Clark come after her. I really wish we could have heard more about her from the Legion than just her name. Sigh. If wishes were horses and all that...

Sorry to digress. All in all: unevenness - 1; Lana love - 1; no Lois -2: total 6.

[Tompouce]

What was that?
:rotfl:

[stenochick]

I liked this episode as a lead-in to what's brewing for the remainder of the season. As a stand-alone episode it had some somewhat campy comic book moments. It fit right in with seasons 7 and 8, but would have stuck out during the early seasons.

There was foreshadowing about Chloe, Lana, and Doomsday. I was ready to see: "To be continued..." at the end of the porch scene with Clark and Lana. I am definitely intrigued and can't wait to see where PS3 take us by season's end.

Well, I need to get out of here. I am flying to New York for a long weekend. You'll never guess what flight I'm on. US Airways connecting in Charlotte!!! The first leg of the return ticket is New York to Charlotte!! I hope I get the same pilot and crew that crashed in the Hudson River. They seem to really be on top of their game.

[ClumsyGRL]

ok! i enjoyed this episode because of the LOSH and chloeiac!!! i saw a few inconsistencies, but to me what really stood out was Doom/davis... what a heck??? I thought that when doomy turns into davis, he is suppose to wake up naked!!!!!! Since "bride" I was expecting to see a naked Davis, instead,I found out a bare chest Davis...Did i Missed something????Did Doomy run home and grabbed pants just seconds before come back and turn into davis???or those pants are invisible when doom is wearing it?

[geminis]

I liked this episode as a lead-in to what's brewing for the remainder of the season. As a stand-alone episode it had some somewhat campy comic book moments. It fit right in with seasons 7 and 8, but would have stuck out during the early seasons.

There was foreshadowing about Chloe, Lana, and Doomsday. I was ready to see: "To be continued..." at the end of the porch scene with Clark and Lana. I am definitely intrigued and can't wait to see where PS3 take us by season's end.

Well, I need to get out of here. I am flying to New York for a long weekend. You'll never guess what flight I'm on. US Airways connecting in Charlotte!!! The first leg of the return ticket is New York to Charlotte!! I hope I get the same pilot and crew that crashed in the Hudson River. They seem to really be on top of their game.

Methinks you're right and I felt that to be continued even though it wasn't shown.

On a brief, personal note; love, love, love your new avi and I hope you DO get that pilot and crew, but not another flock of birds. Happy travels.

[Krissy235]

Very Chloisy ep.

a. If Chloe dies to save Clark and propels him to his destiny, she'd be the first name printed in those history books about Superman.

b. If Chloe goes off and just lives a life of normacly and anonymity, it still wouldn't negate her huge presence as Clark's best friend and confidante in his formative years and he'd never let the world forget her name.

c. If Chloe changes her name to something else...then that'd be that.

I really don't like that Clark is still the guy that isn't ready to be Superman. Enough stalling, already! For crying out loud...say it with me--SEASON.EIGHT.

For me, the absence of Lois was what made the episode work. The show is weighed down by clunky anvils and a forced Clois "romance." I thought it was pretty clear that TW and AM have the best chemistry on the show before "Legion," but after it just seems painfully obvious. There is nothing false about them. No crass sexual inuendos, no annoying angsty stares. They just gel. They are the heart of SV, IMO.

Lana I can usually do without, but her presence does sort of make the show feel more like SV. Definitely think she had a baby while gone for "7 months."

[svtwamedfan05]

I give it a strong solid 8

[Loisdragon]

you guys crack me up. I loved the episode but mad that Lois wasnt in it

[coco#1]

I'm so underwhelmed. For once, I actually don't understand why some people are rating this episode a ten. A ten? Seriously?
I give it a 6...an 8 at best.

If they'd cut the Lana scenes down to just one, that would've been enough.
They could've filled up the rest of her screen time with, dare I say it, Lois and Jimmy
at the hospital or something. Anything but not more Lana! *pokes own eyes with a spork*

Same old, same old. Clark is regressing. That's bad! And what's everyone so excited about him using his heat vision? So he signed a ball without turning his head. Um, so what? I almost yawned when he used his heat vision again. Been there, done that.

Don't get me wrong, though. The parts with Chloe were really good. That is about up until she started taking over every computer in the world. Then I thought it was lame until they explained it, then it made sense...though the way it looked was lame.
I would've rather seen the people who's minds were being erased instead of looking like they were watching Youtube videos, just sitting there staring at the screen.

In short, Lana ruined the episode. The Legion was, um, okay. I didn't love them,
(At least not in a fangirlish way. Rokk was kinda hot, Garth was a cute fanboy,
and Saturn girl was neat. Too pretty (I'm envious), but neat.),
but I didn't hate them either. I thought it was a bit too soon and really unexpected to just have people popping in from the future.
What is this, Heroes?:lol:

Anyway, I don't care how it happened, I'm so glad Chloe got her memory back!
I cheered. I see the writers heared our pleas. Awesome!

If I watch it a couple more times, I might like it a little more, but it looked like
a regression of Clark and the same stuff we've seen before. Hopefully next week
will be better.

i feel the exact opposite of how you feel. the whole episode was awesome, and the lana scenes were great.ALL of them, and the way the legion looked up to kal el and finally hearing about how great superman will become in the future was a real treatand i enjoyed hearing it. Geoff Johns knocked this out of the park, and kudos to the bit about the baseball.....AWESOME

----- Added 9 Minutes later -----

i voted a 10. i really enjoyed this episode. i dont think there was too much lana. not only because KK is easy on the eyes, or because i believe that she is really a top notch actress which she is, but because tyhey have moved their relatioinship forward.she has her own destiny and she was used really wewll in this episode. Lana, Kristin Kruek, and this episode all get a big 10 for this episode, now bring on bulletproof

[dotsie23]

Kick a$$ episode! I gave it a 10 I could've done without the Chloe exorcisim and would've preferred to see the Legion, along with Clark battle James Marsters' Brainiac and I know he's not making any more appearances...dagnabit!:)

[Physeo]

I gave it a 10. I like the way that they worked together to rid the Brain interactive construct from the galaxy and we met some new and interesting characters from Clark's future. Can't wait for next week!

[Mars Investigations]

What a return...easily a ten out of ten for me. Just awesome - there was so much packed in that I don't even know where to start gushing. :D

[zorasuperman]

o this was absolutely the best
ranks up there with apocalypse and such i loved it

[supercatmom]

I really liked this episode. It had action, humor and Clark acting super.

At times it felt like a fuller episode, but it did end once and forall the Brianiac inhabiting Chloe storyline and it did move along the DD storyline.

And I could tolerate the Clana. I keep telling myself, 2 down and 3 to go and Lana hopefully will be gone forever.

The only thing I could never forgive tptb for doing is if they make it look like Lana sacrificing her love for Clark is what makes him become Superman

[Primal Slayer]

I loved the episode. I loved the small fanbites Geoff put in it for the comic fans and Superman fans. The SE were good. Though I thought Doomsday was suppose to take 12 days to fully develop? And he was already done by the end of the episode?

[jesslang]

i like it chole rocked it !!!

[axisoftime]

Ive only given 2 eps a 10-Justice being one of em-I cant give Legion a 10-I would say it is off the scale.Best SV ever.Hope to see the Legion again.Use the ring Frodo-er Clark-go into the 31st century and help the Legion.

[alejandrita439]

i loved it

10 :)

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Gave it a 9. Really enjoyed the Legion aspect. I am not a huge Clana fan, I liked them in the beginning but, like many, grew weary of their angst. I did feel though that the Clana in this ep was well done. I did not think Clark was mopey or BDA at all. In particular, the conversation on the porch at the end. His demeanor was mature, frank. I liked it and could really see Clark as focused on his destiny and not on Lana.

I give major points for the dialog between the Legionnaires while walking the train track. The reference to no tights-no flights delighted me to no end. To hear a character on the screen voice the sentiment expressed so many ways by so many on the boards was just something to savor. They are trying to tell us to have faith in Clark and I for one, have much faith - whether there is a season 9 or not.

Ah Chloe... how much I adore Allison Mack. She is a favorite of mine, even more so that MR is gone. I am glad they gave her back Clark's secret. I understand why he took it, but it really added a rich element to their relationship so I missed that dynamic when it was gone. She was creepy (great make-up!) and her inflections were oh-so-close to JM. Awesome job.

I am still holding out on giving the perfect 10 - but I thought this episode delivered the goods in a lot of ways and thoroughly enjoyed it.

One thing I loved: The S-Curl on Clark's forehead coming down the barn loft stairs in the last scene with the Legion gang. A brief glimpse of the future, that is what this whole episode offered. (The "Where's your cape?" also made me laugh!)

One thing I HATED: Who ever chose the lipstick color for Tom in the Isis scene with Lana (at least I think that was the scene) should be FIRED! He looked like Bowie in drag. Now mind you, I still thought he was screamingly sexy, but the lipstick color definitely distracted me from the dialog.

[Mongoose]

Legion was good. I just wished they would have Lana be more vital to the plot.

[darkone]

Loved it. There were lots of elements in this one that made me like Smallville to begin with. I especially digged all the Lana love that Johns wrote into this one. Awesome. :)

[trams28]

I thought this was a really exciting episode. I would have given it a nine but Lana showed up. Seriously though, enough with her. Let her be a hero in her own right but on another show, on another planet, far far away.... Also, please stop now with any pregnancy rumours. Ugh!

I love, love, loved the introduction of the Legionnaires. Bringing them in means major movement towards Clark becoming Superman. Every little comment about the cape and tights made me giggle. But again, talk about Lana being around worries me. The only thing she'll ever mold him into is a bowl of emotional jello.

I hate reading spoilers so I really don't know what to expect for next week. I can't wait!

[geminis]

I thought this was a really exciting episode. I would have given it a nine but Lana showed up. Seriously though, enough with her. Let her be a hero in her own right but on another show, on another planet, far far away.... Also, please stop now with any pregnancy rumours. Ugh!

I love, love, loved the introduction of the Legionnaires. Bringing them in means major movement towards Clark becoming Superman. Every little comment about the cape and tights made me giggle. But again, talk about Lana being around worries me. The only thing she'll ever mold him into is a bowl of emotional jello.

I hate reading spoilers so I really don't know what to expect for next week. I can't wait!

The bolded parts had me :rotfl: . Welcome to K-site and keep posting!

I love reading spoilers and I still don't know what to expect for next week. :lol:

[newbaggy]

I have to say from the outset that, since I'm not a comic book fan, all I knew about Geoff Johns' work was the gushing praise that I'd seen in posts on this site, and I only had a vague knowledge of the Legion (they came from the 31st century, and they once went back in time to visit Superboy). As such, I wasn't expecting this episode to be the greatest Smallville episode ever, but I was quite prepared to be won over by Johns and the Legion.

Having said that, I gave the end result a rather generous 4. It wasn't bad, but it was pretty underwhelming, for various reasons:

1) Lana

On the plus side, KK looked gorgeous and gave a decent enough performance. On the downside, I was left feeling that there was no real reason for Lana being in the story (other than as a "Chloe substitute" owing to Chloe being otherwise posessed). I wonder if the fact that "Legion" was swapped from episode 9 to 11 meant that the original storyline had to be re-jigged to accommodate Lana. Oh, and there was the Lana will have a wonderful destiny in the future stuff. I didn't expect the Legion to turn up and bad-mouth Lana, but it did feel like a self-conscious sop to Lana fans ("she might be leaving, but the future looks bright for her"). I hope that somewhere in the next three episodes we get some sort of exploration of the less-wonderful side of Lana's life, if only to give KK something interesting to do.

2) Chloiac

To give Allison Mack her due, she had a near-impossible job. To match James Marsters' performance as Brainiac whilst wearing a wedding dress, heels so high that she appeared unsteady whenever she had to walk (I kept thinking of the old interview on her website where she spoke of wearing "massive f****** heels" in scenes with Tom Welling) and make-up's insistence on overdoing her "sickly pallor" (I think somebody confused "possessed by alien machine" with "dying from consumption"). Unfortunately, although she gave it her all, AM came across to me more like a slightly-underpowered Borg Queen than Brainiac. Surprisingly, she came across as a touch "lightweight" in some scenes, so that Brainiac never felt like as much of a threat as he (she? it?) should have done.

3) The Persuader

Why? Not so much, "why did he appear so briefly?" as "why was he in the episode at all?" Now, I have to admit that, not being a comic book fan, I know very little about The Persuader (actually, his name keeps making me think of Tony Curtis and Roger Moore playing crime-fighting playboys). However, let's face it, he's a big guy in a steel helmet with an axe - it might be able to split atoms, but it's still an axe. And I'm sorry, Geoff Johns, but that doesn't make a "fantastic visual" in a TV drama, it makes it look like Smallville has been invaded by an escapee from a Monty Python sketch! I'm not surprised that Clark didn't defend himself - he was probably trying not to laugh. Honestly, when Johns suggested using The Persuader, did nobody say "he might be O.K. in the comics, but he'll look ridiculous in live action"?

4) Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl

Or as I like to think of them: Serious One, Annoying Little Brother and...um...Waste Of Space (sorry, but Alexz Johnson looked like she had glued her eyelids open, and was playing the role in her sleep). A trio of nonentities with barely a personality between them, we are supposed to believe that they are part of a team of alien heroes inspired by Superman. The trouble is that the roles are, at best, indifferently played by the actors concerned, but worse, they are working with a script that makes little attempt to flesh out their characters. Admittedly, a Smallville episode isn't very long, but they do get a relatively large amount of screentime, so I don't think that lack of time is an excuse. In the hands of a talented writer of TV drama, these could have been interesting characters. Instead, they bored me to tears, and frankly, they could all have been killed-off, and I wouldn't have cared.

5) Geoff Johns

He may be highly regarded as a comic-book writer; he may be highly knowledgeable about Superman, Brainiac and The Legion; he may (on the evidence of his interviews) be a very nice guy. Unfortunately, on the evidence of "Legion", as a writer of TV drama, he is best regarded as a mediocre hack. Flat dialogue; thin characterisation; unimaginative plotting - nowhere in this episode can I find any evidence of the great writing of which Johns is meant to be capable. Sure, he can drop in more than enough comic book references to get a fanboy drooling, but as someone who wants a good story, well told, Geoff Johns failed to deliver a script anywhere near good enough to satisfy me.

To be fair, it wasn't all bad (I did give it a "4", not a "1"). Glen Winter may not have got the consistantly-good performances that he managed in "Committed" this time around, but he did a pretty stylish job with what he had. And there were some good Clark moments. If nothing else, the smiles he managed in the final scenes were a reminder that Tom Welling might not be the world's greatest actor, but he posesses a considerable amount of charm - and that goes a long way when playing Clark Kent.

After a generally above-average first ten episodes, I had joined those who believed that Season 9 would be a reasonable possibility. Many more episodes as poor as "Legion", and Smallville could end this season with a distinct whimper.

[Vindellavon]

Loved it! Tom's acting was superb in this one, and for once I wasn't annoyed by Miss. Lang.

[Tompouce]

[quote=Vindellavon;4339051]Loved it! Tom's acting was superb in this one,quote]
Clark/TW was extraordinary, I was watching the epi again, he is awesome:)But "magic" is the best word, really magic:)

[ColdPlay3r]

coldplay3rs review

meh 7/10

[Kal-ed]

I have to say from the outset that, since I'm not a comic book fan, all I knew about Geoff Johns' work was the gushing praise that I'd seen in posts on this site, and I only had a vague knowledge of the Legion (they came from the 31st century, and they once went back in time to visit Superboy). As such, I wasn't expecting this episode to be the greatest Smallville episode ever, but I was quite prepared to be won over by Johns and the Legion.

Having said that, I gave the end result a rather generous 4. It wasn't bad, but it was pretty underwhelming, for various reasons:

1) Lana

On the plus side, KK looked gorgeous and gave a decent enough performance. On the downside, I was left feeling that there was no real reason for Lana being in the story (other than as a "Chloe substitute" owing to Chloe being otherwise posessed). I wonder if the fact that "Legion" was swapped from episode 9 to 11 meant that the original storyline had to be re-jigged to accommodate Lana. Oh, and there was the Lana will have a wonderful destiny in the future stuff. I didn't expect the Legion to turn up and bad-mouth Lana, but it did feel like a self-conscious sop to Lana fans ("she might be leaving, but the future looks bright for her"). I hope that somewhere in the next three episodes we get some sort of exploration of the less-wonderful side of Lana's life, if only to give KK something interesting to do.

2) Chloiac

To give Allison Mack her due, she had a near-impossible job. To match James Marsters' performance as Brainiac whilst wearing a wedding dress, heels so high that she appeared unsteady whenever she had to walk (I kept thinking of the old interview on her website where she spoke of wearing "massive f****** heels" in scenes with Tom Welling) and make-up's insistence on overdoing her "sickly pallor" (I think somebody confused "possessed by alien machine" with "dying from consumption"). Unfortunately, although she gave it her all, AM came across to me more like a slightly-underpowered Borg Queen than Brainiac. Surprisingly, she came across as a touch "lightweight" in some scenes, so that Brainiac never felt like as much of a threat as he (she? it?) should have done.

3) The Persuader

Why? Not so much, "why did he appear so briefly?" as "why was he in the episode at all?" Now, I have to admit that, not being a comic book fan, I know very little about The Persuader (actually, his name keeps making me think of Tony Curtis and Roger Moore playing crime-fighting playboys). However, let's face it, he's a big guy in a steel helmet with an axe - it might be able to split atoms, but it's still an axe. And I'm sorry, Geoff Johns, but that doesn't make a "fantastic visual" in a TV drama, it makes it look like Smallville has been invaded by an escapee from a Monty Python sketch! I'm not surprised that Clark didn't defend himself - he was probably trying not to laugh. Honestly, when Johns suggested using The Persuader, did nobody say "he might be O.K. in the comics, but he'll look ridiculous in live action"?

4) Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl

Or as I like to think of them: Serious One, Annoying Little Brother and...um...Waste Of Space (sorry, but Alexz Johnson looked like she had glued her eyelids open, and was playing the role in her sleep). A trio of nonentities with barely a personality between them, we are supposed to believe that they are part of a team of alien heroes inspired by Superman. The trouble is that the roles are, at best, indifferently played by the actors concerned, but worse, they are working with a script that makes little attempt to flesh out their characters. Admittedly, a Smallville episode isn't very long, but they do get a relatively large amount of screentime, so I don't think that lack of time is an excuse. In the hands of a talented writer of TV drama, these could have been interesting characters. Instead, they bored me to tears, and frankly, they could all have been killed-off, and I wouldn't have cared.

5) Geoff Johns

He may be highly regarded as a comic-book writer; he may be highly knowledgeable about Superman, Brainiac and The Legion; he may (on the evidence of his interviews) be a very nice guy. Unfortunately, on the evidence of "Legion", as a writer of TV drama, he is best regarded as a mediocre hack. Flat dialogue; thin characterisation; unimaginative plotting - nowhere in this episode can I find any evidence of the great writing of which Johns is meant to be capable. Sure, he can drop in more than enough comic book references to get a fanboy drooling, but as someone who wants a good story, well told, Geoff Johns failed to deliver a script anywhere near good enough to satisfy me.

To be fair, it wasn't all bad (I did give it a "4", not a "1"). Glen Winter may not have got the consistantly-good performances that he managed in "Committed" this time around, but he did a pretty stylish job with what he had. And there were some good Clark moments. If nothing else, the smiles he managed in the final scenes were a reminder that Tom Welling might not be the world's greatest actor, but he posesses a considerable amount of charm - and that goes a long way when playing Clark Kent.

After a generally above-average first ten episodes, I had joined those who believed that Season 9 would be a reasonable possibility. Many more episodes as poor as "Legion", and Smallville could end this season with a distinct whimper.


So much word.

Id like to add some of my own gripes:

I didnt like the fact that Chloe wasnt remembered in the future, she´s Clark´s BFF and even if she dies or changes her name (in history the name change could be a known) that´s still no reason for her to not be on the history books, I dont think future Clark would allow historians to neglect mentioning one of his best friends and seeing as in the 31st century she´s long gone, there´s no need to protect her identity so, anyway I try to look at it, the Legion not knowing Chloe is a plothole, perhaps it had a meta intention and an aknowledgment that Chloe is not part of the known canon, how ever in Smallville that made absolutely no sense.

A nother plot hole is why the Legion´s code was not "preserving life at all costs" before the events of this episode, is their Superman less moral or something, why was it a surprise Clark was unwilling to compromise a persons life? Shouldnt they know that already??

A nother gripe is that, I wouldnt have minded Lois not being mentioned at all, what I do mind is her being mentioned, as someone said on a nother thread, along a laundry of recognizable names as if she were one more. Im not saying they should let Clark know what the future holds for him, in the romance department how ever, there wasnt even a hint of importance given to her, a slight smile from one of the legionairs that Clark failed to notice would have been more than enough for me. Yes I know I know that for all Lois haters, she´s unimportant in Smallville´s timeline but even in that train of thought, they still failed to at least aknowledge her importance in the future specially considering the screentime they´ve spent on forshadowing Clark and Lois´s future together, its kind of mind boggling why, now that it actually made sense, they didnt go there.:confused:

[badraven]

Well folks- episodes like "Legion" are why I watch Smallville. A solid 10! And I don't give out 10's very often.

First- Clark (Tom Welling) was great. The Legion shows up, say their from the 31st century and that he might have to kill the human host of Brainiac to save the human race. Clark's reaction- thanks but no thanks! He's believes there has to be another way, to save Chole and the world. Sure he has a moment of doubt about how to handle the whole thing. As someone already stated, this isn't like Clark choosing between should he go to Stanford or Yale, it's should he put one life above 8 billion. Sure Lana helps him, but that's all, just helps him trust himself. Trust that there was a way to save Chole and save the rest of the human race. Loved Clark taking control of the Legion. I'm sure Rokk aka Cosmic Boy isn't use to taking the number 2 slot but for Clark he did. Thought it was great the way Clark came up with the plan that saved Chole, and the rest of humanity. Also the Clark and Chole scenes were great. They showed just how much Clark cares for Chole. Two things at the end I really thought were great. One- when Clark tells Rokk and the Legion before they leave that there always has to be another way (than killing.) I've waited a long time for Clark to say that on Smallville. Two- when Clark is talking to Lana about how the Legion says he is going to be so legendary that he will be known throughout the galaxy. Clark, IMO, seems very humbled by this idea, and that's how he should be. Superman doesn't crave attention, glory, or to be known for a thousand years. He does it because he wants to help people. Clark showed the humility that is part of him becoming the world's greatest superhero. Great stuff.

Second- just how awsome was Chole/Allison Mack huh? Boy she brought her 'A' game for this episode. She was fantastic as Brainiac. Who knew AM could be so good at being bad. Plus I can't say enough about her chemistry with Clark/TW. Boy the 2 scenes- the first right after Clark saves Chole and the Talon scene IMO 2 of the best Chole/Clark scene is recent memory. Kind of off topic but I believe that AM, as part of her new contract, made it so she appears in every episode of the season. If you look I believe that so far only TW and AM have been in all 11 eps this season. I think SV is having to do what 'Veronica Mars' did in its third season- ration the series regulars. SV just doesn't have the budget to use as many of their regulars as they would like in as many episodes. If I'm right I'm glad AM is one of the two that will be in all 22 this season.

Third- how 'bout that Legion! As a huge comic book fan it was just too cool. Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad in live action! It was just great! (And I'm not even a big Legion fan.) I thought everyone was done nearly perfect. You could tell that they were a team that really believed in their mission. Sure I didn't like the fact that after a 1,000 years of history the fact that Superman doesn't kill people had gotten a little submerged to the idea that he would go anything to help people but heh- it had been 10 centuries! Plus the little things: 'Man of Steel' being said, the Legion rings, Lightning Lad's fanboy gushing, Clark using his heat vision to "sign" his baseball, etc....all good.

To end- episodes like this show that Clark will become the world's greatest hero (maybe the greatest of all time) not because it is his destiny but because he chooses to be. It would have been simpler to take the easy way out. To choose 8 billion lives over the life of his best friend but he didn't, he took the hard way. He choose to do both! In Spider-Man the movie Aunt May tells Peter he can't do everything, he isn't Suerman. Well...Clark Kent IS (or at least he will be.) And maybe this just shows me to be a hopeless comic book geek but the idea that Clark Kent/Superman's bright light, his noblity, shines undimed after 1,000 years to inspire an untold number of 'people' to do what is right, to fight the good fight against all odds, to choose hope over fear, light over darkness... THAT'S Superman and THAT'S why I watch Smallville. Yep- good stuff.

[tibbit78]

Welcome, badraven. I liked your post.

[rej@ne]

:p:p:p
every scene with the legion or brianiac was 14 .....
every scene with lana....not so much..........

I just have to say the same thing... I never was a Lana Lang fan and annoyed me vry much what Saturn girl said abt Lana´s having a great history of her own...
what that supposed to be??!!! will she be a heroe too? lol

[geminis]

So much word.

Id like to add some of my own gripes:

I didnt like the fact that Chloe wasnt remembered in the future, she´s Clark´s BFF and even if she dies or changes her name (in history the name change could be a known) that´s still no reason for her to not be on the history books, I dont think future Clark would allow historians to neglect mentioning one of his best friends and seeing as in the 31st century she´s long gone, there´s no need to protect her identity so, anyway I try to look at it, the Legion not knowing Chloe is a plothole, perhaps it had a meta intention and an aknowledgment that Chloe is not part of the known canon, how ever in Smallville that made absolutely no sense.

A nother plot hole is why the Legion´s code was not "preserving life at all costs" before the events of this episode, is their Superman less moral or something, why was it a surprise Clark was unwilling to compromise a persons life? Shouldnt they know that already??

A nother gripe is that, I wouldnt have minded Lois not being mentioned at all, what I do mind is her being mentioned, as someone said on a nother thread, along a laundry of recognizable names as if she were one more. Im not saying they should let Clark know what the future holds for him, in the romance department how ever, there wasnt even a hint of importance given to her, a slight smile from one of the legionairs that Clark failed to notice would have been more than enough for me. Yes I know I know that for all Lois haters, she´s unimportant in Smallville´s timeline but even in that train of thought, they still failed to at least aknowledge her importance in the future specially considering the screentime they´ve spent on forshadowing Clark and Lois´s future together, its kind of mind boggling why, now that it actually made sense, they didnt go there.:confused:

That someone was yours truly, and yes it was a rote, laundry list of names with no nudge or wink to Lois "Hello, it's me" Lane. Okay, she's not in the episode, I get that, but please, wasn't Geoff Johns supposed to be a Lois Lane fan?

With Chloe, I find it more sad than upsetting that she wasn't remembered, but history doesn't get everything right. Something is usually always going to be lost or changed, especially when you are dealing with such a long gap in time.

[Smallville619]

great epsiode loved the lil nod to the Doctor Who Universe!!!!!!

On the front of Chloes book it says Wall of Weird TORCHWOOD^ISIS

[geminis]

:p:p:p

I just have to say the same thing... I never was a Lana Lang fan and annoyed me very much what Saturn girl said about Lana´s having a great history of her own...
what that supposed to be??!!! will she be a hero too? lol

To you and badraven, rej@ane, welcome!

I might be wrong, but I believe Lana has her own future with the Legion as someone important. It is ironic, though, that while Imra knew about Lana, supposedly none of the Legion were following one of Clark's biggest precepts: Do not kill.

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great epsiode loved the lil nod to the Doctor Who Universe!!!!!!

On the front of Chloes book it says Wall of Weird TORCHWOOD^ISIS

I was distracted because weird is misspelled as wierd, but I don't think it is Torchwood, rather the Smallville Torch (the High School newspaper she edited). Have to go back and check to remember exactly. Welcome to you as well! Even though you're settling in and not just new in town.

[alejandrita439]

this episode was awesome awesome...

i like so much the recap at the beginning

it had darkness, action, laugh, friendship, superman mythos...
the begining was with a lot of action.. but i was WTH when they destroyed persuader so fast ...

then i love lighting lad... he was so freaking funny... "Maybe you are know as clark kent now, but one day you will now as SUP...." hahaha i knew that they will not mention that name, he was like a fan of superman how he was excited with the jacket and the baseball..

i loved the quote "No glasses, no flights, no tights..."

allison mack did a great job as brainiac.. i love her..
how clark kent is becoming supeman: "Rule 1, not killing"

when they said, "We have heard about Lois Lane..." i was so happy because they mention lois even when she wasnt there...

but when the said "But we have never heard anything about chloe sullivan" i laughed but felt sad at the same time :lol::(

i think this is one of my favorite episodes of this season :D:D


im wondering
what is that secret of lana that imra knows...
what is going to happen with doomsday...
does chloe know that clark ereased her memories...
why lois isnt going to come back if chloe is now safe and can take care of jimmy...
what will happen to clana in the next episodes...



i gave it 10 :D

[petitemimi]

I gave it a 6. I thought the episode was kind of flat. The chloiac scenes were great though. The indulgence toward Lana was sickening. I think the actors lacked energy and were pretty flat in their line delivery. I didn't like at all the last scene on the (fake) Kent farm porch. First, it looked right out of a Martha Stewart magazine and second, it reminded me of the good ole days when Lana was talking about Lana. She started the show doing a lot of "personal growth" and she's still into that. Of course, she's not as offensive to Clark as she used to be last season, but she's still boring as hell.
As a Clark fan, the episode wasn't bad, it was waaayy better than Justice, but still, not very exciting. The gimmick of seeing the Legion is pretty lost on me since I've never read a comic book, and it failed to capture my interest. IMO, a "not bad" episode, but certainly not one I will care to watch again.

[Tatiana]

I really don't know anything about the Legion, but I really liked them. I don't understand Lana a hero, and being the reason Clark becomes Superman, umm, okay. Not sure about all that. I enjoyed them poking fun at his inability to fly, but already Lana is back and I see Clark sliding back to his old stuck in the mud ways!


Saturn girl said she was PART of the reason he becomes the hero, not the reason, and she says later on during the episode that they have to save these people, they are who they make CLark become the hero, so it is obvious it is not just Lana. I thought that was perfect because the relationships we have during our lives is what shapes us human beings into who we are, so in the end why not be the same with Superman? i love it. I gave the episode a 10 as well, it rocked. It gave me goose bumps when they said in the end Long live the Legion!

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That someone was yours truly, and yes it was a rote, laundry list of names with no nudge or wink to Lois "Hello, it's me" Lane. Okay, she's not in the episode, I get that, but please, wasn't Geoff Johns supposed to be a Lois Lane fan?

With Chloe, I find it more sad than upsetting that she wasn't remembered, but history doesn't get everything right. Something is usually always going to be lost or changed, especially when you are dealing with such a long gap in time.


Well considering Chloe was created by Smallville, I think Johns did a good job trying to explain why in the Legion's Universe she has never been mentioned, somehow they are trying to connect all the dots to make sure all versions of Superman have things in common. I think it was very respectful to put it that way for Chloe, and not completely dismiss her as someone important in his life, it was even said that maybe her death would make him fly, now if that is not important...I don't know what it is. I really loved how Johns managed to connect all the dots from past seasons, from his own Legion ideas and the way they portray Clark in Smallville, great job

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By the way Lois was mentioned :) by Chloe and Clark

[ClubXerxes]

I agree that Legion still gave too much credence to Lana Lang. The mention of her destiny should have been nothing more than an offhanded remark or passing comment - as if to say "this is not about you, but about Kal El" - I am not what many term a "shipper" - each woman has a place in Clark's life. What I want to see is transition - permanent transition - not the kind we get on Smallville where Clark seemingly moves on from Lana to Lois, only to go back and revisit Lana again and again. He needs to move on so that he can truly connect with Lois.

Why didn't Clark seem fazed by the fact that Chloe was not mentioned but Lois was? I would have liked even a small comment about Lois when the Legion mentioned the names from history. Clark could have just interjected one word - "Lois?" - with his trademark Clark-like puzzled look that belies discomfort or anxiety. that would have been enough to at least show he is thinking about her.

Unfortunately, they spent a great deal of time on Lana.

I watched Superman TAS "New Kids in Town" - the animated version of "Legion", and I must say that it left me a bit more satisfied than Legion. I thought Legion was good, but I'm still waiting for Clark to let loose with some real physical action. I would have liked to see more of a battle, or at least some major disaster caused by Brainiac that Clark had to stop with a show of his powers. I appreciate the character development and all, but sometimes, what keeps people tuning in is some real action in which Clark shows his power. That is part of the appeal of Superman - he can do things normal people cannot do.

Legion was good however...good enough. Lightning Lad (instead of Chameleon Boy as in SupermanTAS) was inspired, especially when fighting a living computer. Cosmic Boy was DEAD on - serious about his role. They missed the boat with Saturn Girl - if there was EVER a reasonable opportunity for a mind wipe, it was with her.

As for Chloe, I felt like it was the beginning of the end for her...a long goodbye. I actually felt a bit sad. She has helped Clark become who he is as much as anyone else, and it seems history is discarding her. It was a nice touch that Clark wouldn't discard her that way.

Overall - it was good. I would have kept everything pretty much the same, but removed alot of the Lana business and replaced it with some great action sequences.

[vyperman7]

I agree that Legion still gave too much credence to Lana Lang. The mention of her destiny should have been nothing more than an offhanded remark or passing comment - as if to say "this is not about you, but about Kal El" - I am not what many term a "shipper" - each woman has a place in Clark's life. What I want to see is transition - permanent transition - not the kind we get on Smallville where Clark seemingly moves on from Lana to Lois, only to go back and revisit Lana again and again. He needs to move on so that he can truly connect with Lois.

Why didn't Clark seem fazed by the fact that Chloe was not mentioned but Lois was? I would have liked even a small comment about Lois when the Legion mentioned the names from history. Clark could have just interjected one word - "Lois?" - with his trademark Clark-like puzzled look that belies discomfort or anxiety. that would have been enough to at least show he is thinking about her.

Unfortunately, they spent a great deal of time on Lana.

I watched Superman TAS "New Kids in Town" - the animated version of "Legion", and I must say that it left me a bit more satisfied than Legion. I thought Legion was good, but I'm still waiting for Clark to let loose with some real physical action. I would have liked to see more of a battle, or at least some major disaster caused by Brainiac that Clark had to stop with a show of his powers. I appreciate the character development and all, but sometimes, what keeps people tuning in is some real action in which Clark shows his power. That is part of the appeal of Superman - he can do things normal people cannot do.

Legion was good however...good enough. Lightning Lad (instead of Chameleon Boy as in SupermanTAS) was inspired, especially when fighting a living computer. Cosmic Boy was DEAD on - serious about his role. They missed the boat with Saturn Girl - if there was EVER a reasonable opportunity for a mind wipe, it was with her.

As for Chloe, I felt like it was the beginning of the end for her...a long goodbye. I actually felt a bit sad. She has helped Clark become who he is as much as anyone else, and it seems history is discarding her. It was a nice touch that Clark wouldn't discard her that way.

Overall - it was good. I would have kept everything pretty much the same, but removed alot of the Lana business and replaced it with some great action sequences.


Outstanding post man. Well thought out and nicely written. I enjoyed reading it a lot. I completely agree that there was too much focus on Lana and I also wanted Clark to question why they had heard of Lois as well. I also agree that Chloe's time is coming to an end. Maybe not this season, but it will definitely happen by the time the show ends. They did the same thing with Johnathan. They kept hinting at it, even in Reckoning itself with "I'll always need you dad" right up until it happened.

[clanaddict]

This

[Who]

10 - This episode was so worth the wait... diddiley.

[Sue Denim]

I loved this episode. I especially like how you have one of the core four assure the audience that the characters write their own futures. That the future doesn't determine who they are or what they become, but everyday decisions.

Proactive Clark is always made of win. I'm glad to hear this once again, that choice is more important than anvils.

[superspider02]

Got to say wow o wow what a great episode we had last night. I totally loved the episode. Great work from Geoff Johns, he wrote a great episode. Loved all the stuff from the comics he throw in and all that.

All the characters were written very well and all the legion actors were great. Loved their looks, their attitudes, and the legion rings. Loved how he mixed in the comics lore stuff of legion and comics brainiac stuff into the episode. Was great to finally see the brainiac logo i was wondering if we were ever going to see that in a smallville episode.

Loved the ref at the end of the episode with brainiac 5 being created from the deactived brainiac ball. Loved that clarked showed the legion to never give up and take the easy way out. Ending was great to with rokk warning kal-el of the danger ahead(doomsday) and giving him a legion ring to travel to the future.

I can see two things happening with that ring either clark gives it to lana in her last episode and she goes into the future to fullfill her destiney saturn girl mentioned. Or i can see them having clark go to the legion's future for the season cliffhanger if their is a 9th season.

[Jlvsclrk]

I gave it a 9/10 - it couldn't be any higher because of the excessive Lana worship by Saturn Girl and the lack of discussion about Chloe's memory reboot. But I did adore Rokk, and Garth was such a fanboy in the way he went from hero worship to disillusion in the blink of an eye. I can readily believe that over the course of a millenium, history would forget some key elements of the Superman mythology. The best analogy I can think of is our current view of Robin Hood or King Arthur compared to the historical figures on which they're based. Superman's "do not kill" stance was probably so well known that people just stopped writing about it. So history records he always saves the day, but doesn't explain how. History embroiders details, it conflates characters. For example, Lana is credited with setting up Isis but its really Chloe who's been doing the work that will earn the Foundation its place in history.

[La Donna]

I'm re-watching the episode, and the "previously on Smallville" sequence pertaining to Lois was a complete romantic lead up with Clark, and the Lana scenes didn't seem to pertain to romantic feelings so much. It's very odd that they had those scenes in the montage, and yet Lois and Clois were absent from the whole episode. If they had some sort of hint or wink at the Clois romance, than perhaps those scenes would have had some payoff, but as it was, there was just no point. The only thing I can think of is that TPTB didn't want us to forget Lois and where the show was headed as far as Clois goes, or they simply wanted to get Lois fans to tune in.

Thinking about it, it might be a good thing that the Legion didn't give any sort of hint or suggestion that Lois ends up with Clark and that Lana does not. It'd be better that Clark makes the decision based only on his own feelings and choices, and not because he heard a hint or thinks that his destiny lead him somewhere.

It seems to me as though as much as season 8 is re-boot, that they are doing the same thing with Lana and her past. It's almost as though they are expecting that we forget who Lana has been and was on this show, and are trying to present us with an alternate past so that they can sell us on her future as a "doer of incredible things". I don't think Lana's bad, and I don't hate her, but the way she was described sounds a lot more like Chloe. I could see if they were talking about Lana's future and what good things she'll accomplish then. Or even if they were referring to the seven months she's been gone, since we will probably find out she was doing something good. But her past hasn't been chalk full of sacrificing for Clark and shaping who he was as a hero. She did suggest that he should go out into the world and not stay with her, but seriously, between her and Chloe, the sacrifice list is weighted to Chloe.

I really like the Lana we've seen in Bride and Legion. She's strong, confident, moral, and a really great Clark supporter. I was hoping she'd go on to do good things in the future. I just think the speech SG gave her about reading about Lana since she was a little kid, and the many things Lana's sacrificed up till then in order to protect Clark, seemed to be a little too much to be fully believable. If they had toned it down a bit, than I could have gone along with it. I don't really mind the comment about shaping Clark, and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. But, it still rang odd to me, since Chloe has been his side-kick and best friend, and she has been next to him and involved in his trials for seven seasons. Even if something happens that erases Chloe from the history books, and that ends up being the reason no one in the future heard of her, it still stands out to me as an audience member because I've seen Chloe in that role much more than Lana. To me, it would have made sense if the speech had been given to Chloe.

I don't want to sound anti-Lana, because I'm not. I just think if they had toned down the Perfect and Heroic descriptions of Lana just a bit, it would have rang true and been easier to support.

I realize I'm just repeating the other post I made, but during this second time watching Legion, it just stuck out to me even more than it did the first time. I still like the Legion, and I like the characterization of just about everyone. I didn't really like how aggressive Clark was towards the Legion for the first half of the episode, but I'll cut him a break since he was stressed out about Chloe. I'm glad the Legion left with confidence that Clark will go on to become their hero.

They certainly gave us the clear choices for Chloe's future, either her dramatic death that deeply moves Clark or her identity change in order to protect her including a full erase of her entire life's records (whether via the JL membership, moving to the future with the Legion Ring, or simply going into hiding and living a life apart from the others). I hope they don't choose to have her die, and that they send her on the other route.

I hope Davis didn't spend the full 12 days in hibernation. It would be pretty pointless to have the Davis persona continue if he was a full blown killing machine at this point. Since we know via spoilers that Davis is still around in his human form, perhaps we can expect to see him having been affected by the partial hibernation. It could have moved him forward in his abilities and his mental reasoning, without him being complete as Doomsday.

The Clark and Lana scenes were good, but I wish Clark didn't have to be told what the right thing to do is from others. I don't like it when Lana, Chloe, or anyone else has to do it (besides his parents in the past). But, the Clana scenes were pretty good. Really great friendship wise. Except the very last scene. That hinted at romance, so I guess it's a lead in to next week.

Clark signing the baseball was one of the coolest scenes.

Hey, they just said the ring was programmed for time travel and not flight. That doesn't rule out that he could use it to go back in time in future episodes. They just said he needs to focus on 3009 and they'll be there to greet him. Interesting.

As for the preview, that seems to be a lot of angst. Too much angst. This episode was pretty good starting the angst free Clana relationship (except the end lines), but I guess that's all out the window in Bulletproof. How many times have we heard "What if we weren't meant to do it together?" or "What if Lana and Clark weren't meant to end up together?" or the other anvils that they don't make it. Now it seems we'll be going there again in Bulletproof. In the preview, they showed Lois again, and so if they don't have a freaking mention of her that isn't just a mundane name call, I should sue them for false advertising. When Lana's voice says "What if we weren't meant to do it together", the scene that played at the end of that sentence is Clark dropping to his knees in front of Lana in the loft. I'm scared. I'm real scared. I'm digging this Lana, and I don't want to start frowning at the screen again like I did for almost all of season 7. So, I guess I hope to everything holy that the scene is showing us an injured Clark, and not a sad, depressed, mopey, begging Clark that is centered on his feelings for Lana (either that they may not be together, or when and if he finds out that she's dying). As far as Bulletproof goes, I want an enormous amount of Clark, a lot of Olliver, a ton of MM, some good Chloe scenes, a couple friendship scenes between Lana and Clark, and most of all........ SOME PROGRESSION. Oh, did I leave out a Lois mention? Ya, that too.

[Marissa]

I think it was great! But I really want to know what is going to happen to Chloe.

[jor-eldeux]

Okay - now let's connect the dots (if there are any to connect) - IMHO the writers are attempting to reconcile the mess TPTB made with Lanaville and the mythos. All due respects to the young lady who portrays Lana in this evening soap (Toyota) opera. Lightening Boy asks the question most of have been asking since this show started, "Who is this guy?" (All due respects to Mr. Welling, you can only work with what you are given.) This Clark Kent does not reflect the Superman that has been developed over the years. That Superman is a HUGE jump from the person portrayed on the show. Not only was the character to be "Super" strong, but of "Super" intellect and "Super" character. The reason "Supes" becomes who he is NOT Lana, but his time with the Kent's as well as the person who sent him to Earth - Jor-El. Those character values are woven into him. "You are here for a purpose." -Jonathan Kent. The only character we have seen from this Clark K is the "do not kill." Lying has not been a problem, which is so far from the actual character. So far every superhero introduced is light years ahead of the leader. This is was not a NASCAR race where down in the pack the leader suddenly emerges. His character inspires others, all we see know is a constant prodding and pushing of him to accept who he is and to move forward. I cannot profess to know what the original producers were thinking, but honoring the original that has developed over the years and brought to life on the small and large screens was not in their thinking. This episode carried on that philosophy.
All of that said - "We know Jimmy ... but there is no Chloe .." or some such ilk. He now has the ability with the ring and in this state of character flux to go back and change his relationship with Chloe. She ends up not marrying Jimmy, Brainiac doesn't take over her body, yada yada yada. Shades of "It's a Wonderful Life." I always figured it would be some type of mind wipe kiss like he does not Lois in Movie 2. Or Lois wakes up one morning with Clark in her shower and the whole eight years was a dream and the two of them are together.
The acting chemistry between AM and TW is undeniable. ED and TW are coming together but in this writer's opinion it will always be a stretch. We want to see that relationship happen because it is supposed to happen - "it is your destiny" (Darth Vader). We resent Lana and Chloe for those reasons. It's easy to despise this Lana because of the attempt to make the show about her. We love Chloe because of the on screen (and acting) of her and TW. She clearly loves Clark. He clearly loves her. There is no reason in the story line for him to love Lana. That relationship is not there. That's why we like to throw this character under the bus.
They can't let Lois take over the show now - it's still about Lana and Clark. All they can do is tease, up to this point. This too shall pass - but not soon enough.
This episode opens the possibility to rewriting history - to many hints, etc. at such were available. No Chloe in the history books, time travel available to Clark, etc. What irks me most about this is the lack of leadership from the leader. "Do whatever it takes to save the world."(Somebody from Heroes and the last line from the real heroine of the episode.) The women around him are the guiding/motivating force. Where's truth and justice? (I've given up on the American way) Where's Ma Kent? My farm gets destroyed by an alien and I can't take a break from Washington? Yeah I know you can only get so much in 42 minutes but I have a few scenes that could be left on the floor to at least get a phone call in to see how things were going.
The Legion knew of Brainiac and the attempt to kill Clark now but didn't know Doomsday was incubating? Superman had to be saved by somebody else - again? The origin of the creature that leads to the death of Superman isn't known? Let's make sure we get them both. But no. That's the problem with continuity and time travel to the past - you mess with one thing you change it all.
And what problems will Brainiac five create in the future - where the Legion will be waiting for Superman? Does he get a call for help from the future? "Tune in next week, same BAT-time (sorry)
On one hand I really didn't care for the episode at all - on the other hand it sure leads to some spin offs and story lines if TW wants a steady job for a long time to come. "Up, up and away ..." (Superman flying off)

[boogeyman]

I have to say,that this has been the best episode I have watched in some time.I was starting to miss the episodes where,Green Arrow,Martian Man Hunter,AquaMan,and Flash ,appeared.To see the future Justice League,was so interesting,and iconic.I just can`t understand why they were not called 'The League",instead of "The Legion",because,if the show`s writers,are going to introduce,The Legion of Doom,later on,are they going to be called ,"The League of Doom"?I am so excited to find out how Doomsday is defeated by Clark.I was disapointed,in the fact that Clark`s attraction to Louis,was put on back burner,for the return of Lana.Lana is old news,and Louis,is inevitable.I also must say,that the comment from The Legion, about taking Brainiac,back to the 31`st century to reprogram what was still useful,was definately pointing to the return of of him later on in the show.I think that there might even be a spinoff in the works centering on The Legion,and thier situation,in the Future.That would cool.I`m really hoping that this show goes on for at least 3 more seasons.I`m really not into television,with the exception,of this show.:D

[zHeN_zHeN]

9.5 It was awesome! I just wish it was 2 hours long! :D

[Demien]

10(best)

[lovinredkclark]

ok so i'm probably going to be hated for this, but i only gave it a 5.
not my fave ep of this season.

i will say that the effects where brilliant.

i loved the legion. i thought most of them did a superb job, although at times lightening lad over did it a little. but on the other hand he did have some of the coolest lines, like; are you sure its the same guy, i mean no tights, no flights, whats up with that.
it was great that the writers threw that in.
but as for saturn girl, some of her lines got me sooo mad. when she went to see lana at the isis foundation to persuade lana to convince clark to kill the brainiac host - chloe. then saturn girl implied that lana had something to do with clark becoming the man that he will be in the future. I TOTALLY DISAGREE with that and thats what got me really mad.
imo opinion if anyone gets credit with pushing clark in the direction of becoming 'the blur' and eventually more, i would have to say that its martian manhunter.

but moving on, AM was just awesome as chloiac. i really thought she did an outstanding job when she was in the fortress. i loved her in this character, i totally believed her.

doomy, well he didn't really do much, which is a shame because after the havoc in 'bride' i was really looking forward to more doomy distruction. maybe later on in the season, i'll get that.

and then the was all the lana stuff at the end. for those of you who know me will know that i'm NOT a fan of hers in anyway.
so regardless of how hot clark was in this ep, it almost was not enough to keep me watching. when lana showed up at the farm house near the end i actually wanted to turn it off. i didn't becuase i needed to see clarks reactions for her, but i have to say that i wasn't happy.

i do wish that lois was mentioned more than she was. but i guess that was expected.
i did miss lois in this ep and wished we didn't have to wait so long for her return.

so until her return, it is safe to say that i will suffer through all the clana crap, i wont like it, but in the interest of the show i will watch it.

[Fallen One]

Myself: Unbelievable that I get stuck with this crap on a Friday ni- Hey! You guys are still awake. What did you hear?

C.J.: Uncle Cedric, we can't sleep. Tell us a story.

Everyone in unison: Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Myself: OK children, but do you promise to go to sleep afterwards?

Everyone: (nodding) We promise! We promise!

Myself: (clears throat) OK OK.. (in an almost hypnotic trance) For over 70 years Superman was the guardian of quality television and good morals in the Old Republic. Before the Dark times... before the Goughlar.

Boy: (raising hand) 'Scuse me, but uh, what does the Old Republic mean?

Myself: 2001.

Girl: Whats the Goughlar?

Myself: Two Easter bunnies that hide the mythos in eggs, then bury their souls in the backyard on Halloween.

Smartass 7 year old girl: But my Daddy said the Easter bunny leaves us quarters under our pillow.

Myself: (long glare) Your Daddy lied.

C.J.: (curious) Uncle Cedric, what happened to Superman?

Myself: (staring into space) A young woman named Lana Lang, who was a decent character at one time before she turned to evil, helped the Goughlar hunt down and almost destroy the Mythos. She betrayed and emasculated the Man of Steel. Until season 8, Superman was almost extinct.

..The Goughlar was seduced by the dark side of the Pink.

Boy: (confused) Whats the Pink?

Myself: Its a vortex of boredom and Lana Lang worship.

Boy: Vor-tex? So she's kinda like Yu Gi Oh?

Myself: Yes exactly! NO! She's nothing like Yu Gi Oh..

Smartass 7 year old girl: Wait my sister watches Smallville and Lana isn't Darth Vader. She's pretty and Clark loves her. This isn't scary at all.

Myself: Did you see season 7 yourself, little girl?

Smartass 7 year old girl: No..

Myself: Then lay down and shut the hell up.

Long pause.

Myself: So did you all enjoy the story?

All four kids nod nervously.

Myself: Good. So here's what we're going to do. I want everyone here to pretend like I'm not here and go to sleep. Can we do that?

Smartass 7 year old girl: That's a lame trick.

Myself: Kid. I swear to God…

Smartass 7 year old girl: Fine.

Myself: OK. Now no one look at me.

Lights flicker off.
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<CENTER>8 weeks ago on a CW just a click away...

It is a time of great joy in the Smallville fandom.
After the deperature of the evil Goughlar
PS3 actually develop characters and follow up on storylines. Joy is everywhere.
In a bold move, Doomsday played by Davis Bloom has been added to the show.
Unfortunately, he's been turned into a love-sick stalker who only lives for Chloe.
Either drunk, drugged, or out of his mind.. Davis decided to crash Chloe's wedding stealing her in the process.
Now Clark Kent must find and save Chloe, lest all the world kill itself because a lock of her hair is missing...</CENTER>

Previously ON: Clark lied his butt off, Davis went crazy with A-1 barbeque sauce, Oliver didn't think weddings were funny, Chloe forgot almost everything except to how to stop sucking, Clois was falling in love until Chloe flapped her gums, a living breathing dragon returned, Clark and Jor-El gave Chloe an unforgettable Christmas gift, Doomsday impaled someone on the bride and groom statues, Lois didn't understand why Oliver liked shooting people, Lois gave Clark nightmares by collasping on his lap.

I sense something. A presence I have not felt since... ah yes, vermin.

Lana is in the barn and woah damn, can Doomsday throw a party or what? No really, it looks like he literally picked up the party and threw it. Debris is everywhere. Unfortunately Lana's skull was not among it. I guess you can say that Chimmy's wedding was a complete disaster.

Beat.

This stuff writes itself sometimes, I tells ya. While Lana cries at the sight of daisies, Clark superspeeds in just to yell her name in that annoying way that he does it. Apparently Chloe is nowhere to be found. Why the hell is everyone so sad at the start of this episode? Clark wants Lana to get some rest but nah-uh! Dragons don't sleep. She decides to go back to Isis to.. do whatever the hell it is that she does. After a stupid Clana hug, she leaves. A brilliant flash of purple light enters the loft and there stands one juiced up Bobo Fett who.. slices a wooden box in half. Um.. OK, a wood hating villian. That hurt Clark feelings, but when he questions the wooden box hater he gets an axe to gut, followed by a boot to the chest. Wow this dude really is pissed off. He goes for the killing blow his axe is ripped from his hands. He hears Lana's "the world needs you.." speech and covers his ears, then is knocked out by Sith lightning. The three people proclaim themselves to be the Legion from the 31st century.

"Hey Kal, where's your cape?" - Lightning Lad, 7:05PM. Somewhere the Goughlar are cackling and laughing their butts off. Great scene to open the episode. Loved it all.

Opening credits. Its so good to see these again. Makes feel like a big bag of cheese puffs.

Still at the barn. Clark is handed a towel while the Legion attempt a quick exit. Well.. except Garth who is pacing back and forth like the leaders are Alderaan. Finally he enthusiastically speaks up and almost gives away an important secret. I think I have the version that Al/Miles would have approved in seasons 1-7.

"You may be known as Clark Kent now, but one day you'll be known as <S>Superman</S> ex-boyfriend of Lana."

As they attempt to exit again Clark gets annoyed and demands answers. Exposition time. Potentially changing history with their every word, they explain to Clark his influence in the world to come. Good but short scene. One last time they attempt to leave before Cosmic Boy spots what looks like this toy I got out of a Fruit Loops box 2 months ago. However this is no bluetooth night light, its was MM's Phantom Zone crystal and now its bantha fodder. Somebody's going to die.

The Death Fortress. Davis wakes up on the alter of Chloeness and asks for her. It must be love. Zombie!Chloe steps out from the shadows with pale makeup, brown eye shadow, and bags under her eyes. Must be evil time! Whats with Davis' breathing? Is just the mere sound of Chloe's voice that satisfying? Zombie!Chloe backs him up as she struts toward him and tells him almost exactly what Faora told him a mere few episodes ago. Invading his personal space, she scorns him for his attraction to Chloe. Get in line, Brainiac, get in line.

"Feelings? That was just a program I was running to get you to me" - Zombie!Chloe, 7:19PM.

"Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha.." - Cedric, seconds later, 7:19PM.

More struting then she basically tells him that she'll lock him up in the fortress against his will until he emerges as a monster. Sounds like a plan, just as long as the first words out of his mouth isn't Padme. Davis balks at the idea but its pointless to resist. More struting before she gives the evil "turn around" and calls him Doomsday. Davis looks scared and I look at my clock. An OK scene but I could have done without the struting. It seemed like the scene was more about showcasing AM's evil acting than about advancing the story.

Kent Farm. Clark insists Brainiac's been defeated but the Legion know better and they insist that Brainiac is out there. Clark considers the possibility when he sees Chimmy's photo on a wedding invitation. His thoughts betray him as Imra reads his mind. Clark tells everyone that he'll take care of it until he's told that he won't be able to do so without killing "the host".

"Who's Chloe Sullivan?" - says Saturn Girl and about 30 million Superman fans around the world each Thursday night as they turn in, 7:21PM.

Commercial Break: Another Propel ad? Oooh its "The Fitness Water." Because, as we all know, regular water is fattening.

Its the most powerful weapon in the Galaxy

The Death Star?

No.. my ability to hurt Lana..

You have 5 seconds to get the hell off this spaceship

Clark speeds away with cheesy superhero music playing as the Legion fly behind him. They cut him off and ask him whats the dealio. Clark wants to go after Brainiac alone, lest anyone else kill Chloe, like me. When he confesses to not being able to fly Lightning Lad gets this incredulous look on his face. Get in line dude, get in line. I appreciate the Lois callout but.. a whole convo about Chloe, JUST what I wanted to see in this episode. Who CARES if she's not in the history books. I say consider those history books lucky. For just mentioning the possibility that Chloe may die, Clark grabs Lightning Lad shoulders, then speeds off. If Lana suggested that he would turned to look at her sadly while admitting to her brillance. The Legion walk off disapointed. Garth is quickly becoming a disbeliever in Superman.

Al/Miles: Yes! Another one!

Isis. And my skin is crawling already. In her "1-900" voice, Imra applogizes for frightening the princess. When she admits to being from the future, Lana- Lana Lang, has to gull to suggest she's crazy.

"I'll never ask Clark to kill anyone, do you understand?" - says the lying liar, 7:27PM. Somewhere a thousand X-Wings just dropped and crashed.

More talk about how Chloe must die, which would make me perk up my ears but unfortunately this verbal butt kissing by Imra is distracting me. Hardships Lana has had to overcome? WHAT hardships? The harship of someone not telling you their secret?????

She's sacraficed so much for Clark???????

(holds heart) Sorry, there was a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of fans cried out and rolled their eyes at once. No way Johns wrote this dribble. This was Peterson, Sounders, or Dries' doing. Over, this crap is.

Talon. This is like a horror movie. I go from Lana butt kissing to Chloe butt kissing. Maybe she changes her name? Maybe her death inspires Clark to fly? Maybe Doomsday eats her, bones and all. How about that huh!?

The Death Fortress. Clark calls out to Jor-El who doesn't answer back. Zombie!Chloe informs him that she is now in control of everything. "Leave Chloe alone, you have what you want." Sure Clark, Brainiac is compassionate like that. Seriously what the hell kind of question was that? Another "evil turn around" by Zombie!Chloe as she tells him what she plans to do with the planet. Clark grabs her and shakes her. Ohh there's much anger in this one.

"Go on, kill me..." - Zombie!Chloe, 7:35PM

"I can't reach through the TV screen." - Cedric, seconds later, 7:35PM

Of course Clark backs off, then gets thrown against the side of the alter as a gift for his compassion. He superspeeds off, and we see that Davis is inside a giant icebube. I bet you won't steal brides away from parties anymore.

Commercial Break: If you have red wine pouring out of the windows of your car, of course you're gonna get pulled over.

Downtown Metropolis. I guess the Legion are walking toward the Daily Planet on that.. one.. street in Metropolis. Imra sounds like she's reading from notes while she stresses the urgency of saving the people from Brainiac. Garth is still doubting Clark and lays it on pretty thick. Rokk finds his lack of faith disturbing. I like the calmness with which Rokk speaks and the confidence he exudes as he takes up for Clark. But he too has to admit what is obvious. If people start dying, they can't afford to wait on Clark to decide what to do. This scene should have been longer while that scene at Chloe's apartment cut completely.

Isis. Ugh. I sense a plot to destroy my mood. And there it is. That.. room again. So what, was Clark going to stand there and watch? More whispery talk from Lana and yeah.. I knew it was coming. I KNEW it was coming. You don't need midichlorians to see this crap. Clark asks if the Legion are right in thinking that Chloe must die and this podscum gets this look of disbelief on her face as if the very thought of killing Chloe to save the planet is unheard of. Podscum, you locked her in a wine celler for selfish reasons. Podscum you tried to murder Lionel and Lex. Who.. the.. hell.. are you to act like you're the all-wise counselor to any and everything righteous? Who is the writer that suggested this pile of metal? What say you Artoo?

Artoo: Beep wee Pwiii iiiii oooo rrr pppp dee di whoop Ooht-twirl.

Woah-oh there, Ace. This is a family review. But I agree, it sucked like a hoover Vacuum cleaner.

Daily Planet. Some guy jumps backwards into a wall, then throws himself down the stairs. Well, thats one way to cope with Lois not being in the episode. Zombie!Chloe is now sweating.. I know why, but she's sweating. She rips open a mainframe and goes nuts with the electricity. Anyone that looks at their pc suddenly become brain-dead. I know the feeling. Another "evil turn around" by her, making that the third one. She has this smirk on her face. Laugh it up Fuzzball.

Isis. Just as Lana locates Brainiac, she becomes brain-dead too. Although I seriously doubt Brainiac has anything to do with that.

Daily Planet. Having enough of the waiting game, Imra attempts to take down Brainiac but loses a battle of the minds pretty easily. Another strut with a little trash talking this time by Zombie!Chloe. Just when she's feeling good about herself a massive surge of energy sending her crashing through the glass. Yes! I love these guys. While Clark acts like Chloe shouldn't be touched, they themselves have no qualms about knocking her the hell out. Man-fist and smiles follow as Rokk and Garth help Imra up. They realize that Brainiac is downloading everyone's knowledge and now that people are suffering- its go time.

Commercial Break: Dating again? Gray hair? That won't do. You need to have brown hair. You want women to love you, don't you? Then buy Just For Men. Also, buy these magic beans. Women also love men who buy magic beans.

Master Gough: I'll buy one of those pink chamber parts, please.

Droid: This is the outer rim. Republic credits are no good out here. I need something more real. And what the hell is this?

Master Millar: {moves fingers} The Lana credits will do just fine, thank you.

Droid: Well OK if you insist-- wait uh wait, you're under arrest.

Back now, still at the Daily Planet. A desk is cleared off, but for all the right reasons! A knife is in hand as Garth volunteers to do the deed, but he hesitates. Oh would you just do it already. Rokk takes the knife from him and gets ready to do it himself but Clark stops it and lectures them on never killing. I loved the speech and the way TW delivered it. But I can see both sides to this. I'm of the opinion that one person should never come before the Planet, but I do know that Clark's "never give up and every life is precious" is really admirable and very much Superman. The Legion agree to helping Chloe when Imra hears her deep inside the body.

Kent farm. Clark carries Zombie!Chloe into the barn and places her on the table. Good thinking on Clark's part of wanting to keep Brainiac away from anything electric. They come up with the plan of Rokk literally extracting the liquid metal that is Brainiac out of Chloe's system while Garth electrocutes it. In vain, I hoped it failed but.. oh who am I kidding. Garth at least gives her a good eletrocuting while Rokk sucks the Brainiac out of her. Wow that sounded awful. So awful that I'll leave it in my review. I laughed when I first saw Chloe's reaction to all of this. She was convulsing throughout it all but there is a funny close up shot of her face in particular. She looked like one of those monsters on Resident Evil as they scream when you throw a torch at them. A black softball forms in the air as its completed and Chloe collaspes.

The iceshell of Doomsday cracks as he opens his bloodshot eyes. Lana's creepy room goes back online and she suddenly snaps out of her trance. I wish the producers would snap out of theirs. Triumphet music plays. Whatever.

Clark stares at the black softball like he wants to heat vision it to death, then walks over to Chloe to make sure she's OK. She's alright. Oh shut up Clark. And shut up Chloe. And shut up Lana, because I know you'll say something too.

Commercial break: Whose excited to see the new Biggie Smalls movie? Huh? Huh? OK, thats not funny. Come on, raise your hands.

The top 5 Star Wars Pick up Lines

5. I know they say always two there are, but damn.

4. Date, or date not- there is no let’s just friends be.

3. Nice buns, princess! On your head, that is.

2. I may look like an Ewok, but I'm all Wookie where it counts, baby.

1. Honey, you’ve been looking for love in Alderaan places.

Talon. Clark is happy to see Chloe back up and well. Chloe's packing to go to Star City. RUN Jimmy! Oh, he's in a coma. I forgot. ROLL Jimmy! Chloe wants to relieve Lois of her nurses duties. How.. sweet. Clark gets a little nervous and asks her what she remembers. She at first answers generally, then admits to remembering his secret..................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCsHTNP2MaU

FINE!!! If she doesn't want to be mindwiped then there is only one alternative. She MUST die!!

Blah blah blah, I'll never forget the secret, blah, blah, blahh who cares. Oh she wants him to do whats best for the world and not for her. How noble of her.

PS3: Thats just crazy talk, obviously Chloe IS the world! And we'll keep telling you that EVERY episode!

Go to the next scene.

Kent Farm. A picture of Lana and him is still in his living room. You have GOT to be kidding me. Why do I sense we've come upon another pathetic lifeform. And there she, Lana. Yeah, Kal El is one good guy isn't he. This.. tuskin raider.. has the gull to ask Imra if she and Clark will be an item in the future. Imra squashes it in a nice way, but I don't think Lana got it through her thick skull though. She's going to make a move on Clark.

At the barn there's a really nice geek out moment with Garth asking Clark to sign a baseball. Now that the barn is fixed they prepare to leave. Brainiac 5 will be made from Milton Fine's Brainiac. So thats the last we'll ever see of Smallville's Brainiac? Another thanks from the Legion to Clark and the adding of preserving life at all costs to the code. Its cool that they even mimmick Clark's Superman nod to each other. Clark is given a Legion ring that only time travels. Thats definately going to come into play later on. An eery warning from Rokk about Doomsday, before they turn in unison, raising their fists in the air, and then disapear back to their timeline. Wow I think I loved that scene even more than the opening.

Outside on the porch, Lana the Hut finds Clark admiring the ring. He doesn't know if he'll live up to his legendary status, but Lana is there to give some positive reinforcement......

Just.. finish ..the review Cedric.

Clark asks about what she was told but Lana has the audacity to basically say that she'll defy history and make her own destiny. Yep, she's definately going to make a play for Clark. But as you'll find out Lana.. your destiny is already sealed and there is nothing you can do to rob Clark of his future with Lois. I can't wait until you realize that.

Finally, at the fortress Doomsday is wrecking things left and right. Closing shot on his face.

All in all..

Well.. it may not have been perfect, but the episode will be one of those memorable ones that will always be talked about.

Johns wasn't lying when he said things in this episode will drive the second half of the season. For one, I think Chloe was acting really strange in her last scene with Clark. I think she's going to remember that he asked Jor-El not to restore his secret to her memory and that'll only drive her toward Doomsday. Thats her decision though, not Clark's. And I won't blame Clark when she makes that fatal mistake. It also seems Doomsday, though he didn't stay the full 12 days in that Kryptonian coffin, is even deadly now. Davis is going to have to do something drastic to control it. And of course, that Legion ring is definately going to come back into play, and most of you already know how.

Chloiac (or "Zombie!Chloe" as I called her) was Isabel-esqe in that all I saw was a evil version of orginal character (in this case Chloe) and not the villian they were suppose to play. AM played Brainiac in a way Masters never would have. Each actor is different, and I know that. But Marsters is Brainiac to me, and I hope the writers never make this mistake again.

Abyss, save for the FOS conversations between Jor-El and Clark is now= the most useless waste of space episode of the season and of the series.

I think in some ways, a lot of what plagued Clark throughout seasons 1-7 was shown tonight. He sometimes gets this narrow vision where all that matters is his loved ones, no matter the risk. What would have happened had the Legion not been there to help him remove Brainiac out of Chloe? Was he going to just let Chloiac kill everyone just because he "loves Chloe so much" or just because Lana said so? Thats precisely the type of "human weakness" Jor-El has warned him about for years now. In the end, he managed to be the hero and they did sucessfully remove Brainiac from her without having to kill her. But as I said, I saw both sides of the argument. Its just that I thought Clark was too much about "save Chloe" while the Legion was all about saving the Planet. If all of them had come together and really talked about things they could have reached a compromise sooner and came up with a plan. It didn't start out as the best episode for Clark, and neither did he have a strong middle of the episode, but the last 3 or 4 scenes with him were extremely strong and I loved all of them.

The Persuader being in the episode for all of 2 minutes was a travesty. He should have been the villian in this episode. Davis essentially being wasted really annoyed me as well. This is the second episode in a row where he's had one.. ONE scene. What is wrong the producers? You don't waste the guy like that. Why even have him in the episode if thats going to happen?

The Legion were great guest stars. They were there to help Clark and though there was friction and mistrust between Clark and they, I always knew that their love for him was genuine. I'm glad that Clark sees the influence he makes in the future and the new friends he now has. Imra was lacking, acting wise. But Garth and especially Rokk were fantastic.

Best special effects of the season, a good script, great beginning, great ending, no romantic angst, and the story moved forward. But I could have used a lot less of the save Chloe/Lana has a destiny crap though, much more Persuader and Davis, and a more decisive Clark.

I'm giving this a 8 out of 10. One of the best of this season, but not the best.

I miss Lois. Especially after knowing whats coming.

Begun, the Lanarama has...

[tibbit78]

Cedric:

Your review was great! Every week I always look forward to reading your Smallville reviews, because not only do you take the time to write them, but you also take the time to put into words how you feel about these Smallville episodes.

Your reviews are so funny and so entertaining, but that's just being you: Cedric. I gave your review a 10, even though this was not my favorite episode, but you're worth it, Cedric. You can take a boring episode, and make it come to life, make it sound interesting, and even humorous.

Well done, Cedric!

I only wish that your review was longer, because I hate it when your reviews come to an end! I was hoping for a Chloe rant: After Clark's secret was given back to her! I love Cedric rants!

[Mickey_Bickey]

I agree that Legion still gave too much credence to Lana Lang. The mention of her destiny should have been nothing more than an offhanded remark or passing comment - as if to say "this is not about you, but about Kal El" - I am not what many term a "shipper" - each woman has a place in Clark's life. What I want to see is transition - permanent transition - not the kind we get on Smallville where Clark seemingly moves on from Lana to Lois, only to go back and revisit Lana again and again. He needs to move on so that he can truly connect with Lois.

Why didn't Clark seem fazed by the fact that Chloe was not mentioned but Lois was? I would have liked even a small comment about Lois when the Legion mentioned the names from history. Clark could have just interjected one word - "Lois?" - with his trademark Clark-like puzzled look that belies discomfort or anxiety. that would have been enough to at least show he is thinking about her.

Unfortunately, they spent a great deal of time on Lana.

I watched Superman TAS "New Kids in Town" - the animated version of "Legion", and I must say that it left me a bit more satisfied than Legion. I thought Legion was good, but I'm still waiting for Clark to let loose with some real physical action. I would have liked to see more of a battle, or at least some major disaster caused by Brainiac that Clark had to stop with a show of his powers. I appreciate the character development and all, but sometimes, what keeps people tuning in is some real action in which Clark shows his power. That is part of the appeal of Superman - he can do things normal people cannot do.

Legion was good however...good enough. Lightning Lad (instead of Chameleon Boy as in SupermanTAS) was inspired, especially when fighting a living computer. Cosmic Boy was DEAD on - serious about his role. They missed the boat with Saturn Girl - if there was EVER a reasonable opportunity for a mind wipe, it was with her.

As for Chloe, I felt like it was the beginning of the end for her...a long goodbye. I actually felt a bit sad. She has helped Clark become who he is as much as anyone else, and it seems history is discarding her. It was a nice touch that Clark wouldn't discard her that way.

Overall - it was good. I would have kept everything pretty much the same, but removed alot of the Lana business and replaced it with some great action sequences.

Simply one of the best posts if not the best post I've read about Legion. I agree 100% about everything you said! Thank you!:)

[mrw66855]

Cedric

Your review was hilarious and I agree with you. I especially liked all the Star Wars references (yes, I am a Star Wars geek as well as Superman) I especially liked your beginning. Well done, and great review.

[FlashInSV]

Opening scene. Good. Clark has been searching for Chloe. Wonderful. Hmmm Lana wants to go to Isis.... okay, go then. Now, quick. Don't come back. Ah yes Clark you go instead. No? Lana no. You are not a different person after 7 months. Its not possible. I don't buy it. Clark don't you dare buy it. I mean it. Oh great. A hug. The beginning of the end. And shes gone. I can breath. I swear whenever shes on the screen with Clark i can't breathe. I'm scared shes going to jump on him and cling on for dear life. Nothing against Lana, whole lot of hate towards the Clana. I hope theres not too much of it in the episode, i'm feeling sick today as it is.


:lol: :lol:
I LOVE the way you describe things.



The arrival of the Legion; I knew, as soon as The Persuader was revealed in the spoilers, Clark was obviously going to get hit. Hurt, whatever. His axe cuts through ANYTHING, including Clark. So there he appeared, tried to slice Clark in too and oh! Whats this... do we have... is that Cosmic Boy? Yes. Yes it is. Oh. Snap. Saturn Girl. OH! Ron Weasley! Sorry, LIGHTNING LAD. I can already tell hes going to be my favourite. Oh this is awesome. Kal-El. Oh Clark looks like hes going to wet himself. OH. "Where's your cape?". Yes. He is definetly my favourite. Over all opening scene, good good GOOD. Would have preferred more of The Persuader, but i've got Lightning Lad to obssess over now.


Okay, if you love Garth, you are on my friends list. ;)




Next scene. I'm finding Imras voice rather attractive. I offically love Garth. He is absoultely wonderful. Hes so excited. Perfect choice for the role, perfect. "Its against Legion code,". Yes Rokk, it is. No Clark don't shout at them. You know nothing. Oh Tom is looking HANDSOME, i wouldn't mind... sorry, back to the episode. Ah Rokk's speech. Good, very good. Oh my god, i offically love Garth. He's my new obssession. Bart and Garth. Phantom Zone crystal. So Persuader came to make sure Brainiac stays in Chloe. Interesting. Didn't see that coming... makes sense for his short, yet violent visit. Ohhhh tense. Yet again. Good scene.


Fortress. Oh this can't be good. Davis. Creepy looking Chloe. *shudders* I don't get scared easily but i want my pillow. Where is it. Oh god Chloe's freaking me out. Sorry, Chloiac. Oh Allison, good job. Her voice. What is with the womens voices tonight? I'm finding them attractive and now hating my own. I am not enjoying the way she's walking. Oh Davis. You poor thing. Like this scene, AM did an amazing job, bit freaked out by her now.


Good God! That's exactly what I thought when I heard her voice! I was thinking where can I buy a new voice for myself.



Seriously, i'm in love with Garth. I have really taken to these three as the Legion. I don't think they could have picked anyone better... i just realised i miss Lois. I could just imagine her walking into the barn demanding to know if Clark had found Chloe, but alas. Omg kill Chloe? What. He won't, i know that, but alright Rokk, morbid much?

FLYING. GAAAAH. Clark, just do it already. OH MY GOD. LOIS MENTION. Oh. I am so happy. GOOD BOY ROKK. Oh, STING. "Never heard a thing about Chloe Sullivan,". Ouch. Man. I can so tell this is Geoff writing. Geoff. I love you. "No glasses, no flights, no tights,"
ANVILS. SO MANY ANVILS. My heart can't take much more.


You must be reading my mind. There's no other way you can write what I'm thinking.



Isis. *eye twitches* No Imra. SHE IS NOT PART OF THE REASON. This scene is making me angry. If Lana dares to convince Clark to kil Chloe.... i will murder. I didn't like this scene.
Talon. Garth!! Sorry..... hang on. NO. Chloes death will not inspire him to take flight. Big mistake Geoff. BIG MISTAKE. I can hear fans throwing objects at their TV's right now. I didn't like this scene either.

Fortress. Again. Oh look, creepy Chloe. Man, Tom is good with the facial acting. Oh, hunger. Dirty. Sorry. There is something really scary about Chloe lifting Clark up. So swift like he was a feather. Odd, completely odd. Gah! Davis. Oh dear.

I like Rokk. He has so much faith. Garth stop with the whining, your annoying me now. I don't want you to annoy me. Isis. Again. Lana, he's not the Clark you know anymore. Get over it. Okay, whys Chloiac at the DP? Oh yes, power. Oh gosh not again. Veritas flashback. Oh!!!! GARTH! Thats it. Thats right. I'm getting excited again. The past few scenes have let me down slightly. I got to say, i am missing James Marsters as Brainiac. *sigh* AM is doing a great job, i just miss James.

Oh Garth can't do it. Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Man this is tense. Clark in this century teaching the Legion about morals. I literally want to applaud. Techno exorcism. Oh my goodness. This scene is TENSE. OH MY. AHHHHHHH. I'm sorry. Man. Whoa. That scene was GOOD. Whoa. I want to applaud. Oh what the heck, i'm going to.

Oh, Chloes going to see Jimmy. Second Lois mention. Is that is Clark? YOU ALMOST KISSED THE WOMAN. I knew it. I KNEW, SHE WOULD REMEMBER HIS SECRET. Oh well. Nice two lasted episodes there. Kent farm. Ah, let yourself in Lana. Ask about Clarks future why don't you. Good Imra, though i wish you'd mentioned Lois. Barn. Hahaha. Sign it. Man, Garth. Oh again, a TRUE smile from Clark. We are blessed this season aren't we? Oh. Brainiac 5 mention. OH. HE'S GOT A RING. What. Rokk. No. Don't you dare say that. The days ahead? Oh gosh.

Oh must we end on a Clana scene? *pouts* Whoa. This is reminscent of the earlier seasons. Clana chat on the porch. Oh Lana be quiet. Sorry. STOP IT. I can't handle her telling him what to do. WHOA. Transition. Smash. OH MY GOD. I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT.



I completely agree. That AND I was rolling on the floor laughing with your review. You should do that more often!

[Jaderoyale]

At last, Cedrics reviews are back. And as per usual. They are fantastic.

I couldn't stop laughing at this bit;


"Go on, kill me..." - Zombie!Chloe, 7:35PM

"I can't reach through the TV screen." - Cedric, seconds later, 7:35PM

Just a mental image of you desperately trying to reach through the TV screen :lol:

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----


:lol: :lol:
I LOVE the way you describe things.



Okay, if you love Garth, you are on my friends list. ;)



Good God! That's exactly what I thought when I heard her voice! I was thinking where can I buy a new voice for myself.



You must be reading my mind. There's no other way you can write what I'm thinking.



I completely agree. That AND I was rolling on the floor laughing with your review. You should do that more often!

Hehehe, thank you :D

[lovinredkclark]

oh fallen one, you are the master and i bow down to thee.

*on knees bending forward chanting 'i'm not worthy, i'm not worthy.'

this review made my day even more than your location did.

and i have to say that i agree with everhthing that you said, and its rare that i completely agree with anyone.

but your views on blahna are perfect, and i stand proudly next you.

[ginevrakent]

Cedric, I can't wait for the review and I love the new avi; loved the aardvark, but the kitten is awesome! For the bonus add on, would it be Geoff Johns and the SV writers?...

Jade, love your review too. I'm happy you are doing a play by play like Cedric. Garth was definitely amusing, but he had his whiny annoying bits too, unlike fav Bart.

I found a lot of truth in what BadToad and LaDonna said also.

For me, this episode was all right, just very uneven and that wasn't only because my DVR kept bobbling. Geoff Johns is not a regular writer for Smallville, so in part, it felt a bit like a struggle between the two; there wasn't a perfectly cohesive mesh between the two viewpoints. I'm going to hold my judgement on the writing for the second half of the season until the next episode because of Johns' influence for this one.

The acting along with the script had moments of brilliance as well as what the heck parts. More specifically, Chloe as Brainiac: I felt she wavered somewhat, and maybe wasn't as forceful as I would have liked. Of course, that could be because she is following James Marsters performance; I wasn't sure of him, either, but he convinced me. It wasn't all bad, but I wish she had attacked the words with more force during her talk with Davis. Just my opinion as a fan of animation and voice actors. Love Chloe for bringing up Lois, but the scene felt a little flat because as far as we knew, Jimmy was in bad shape in Star City and her talking about going to see him sounded a little too blase for my taste. They may think they're in love but it's not a love that will last. The return of Chloe as a secret keeper for Clark has me happy though. Poor Clark, thinks he's doing something to protect Chloe and it turns around and bites him. It might have been interesting to have a return of a naive Chloe, innocent of his powers for a little bit longer, but I'm glad she knows again, and how they did her memory return works for me.

As for Lana; more unevenness. The whole Isis discussion with Imra was repulsively nauseating. Her scenes with Clark were actually something I almost enjoyed in comparison. And holy crap, she looks good.

Can't touch Clark. Even when he was somewhat vacillating, he was superbly awesome. I'm not going to bad mouth Clark any more, even when the writing for him reeks to high heaven.

The Legion. Loved their first live show. Johns was right, the casting was terrific. I have to humbly disagree with BadToad, I liked Imra. Her voice was captivating and the makeup, while heavy handed, worked for me. Rokk was suitably leaderlike and Garth was equally enthusiastic and annoying. Loved everything about them, even Garth as over the top whiny fanboy. (He still can't top Bart though) The Persuader was literally on again, off again. That was all right by me. We got a nod, but not the whole focus, which was more suitably on Brainiac and somewhat of Doomsday. They said Lois Lane's name first, before Lana's, YES!!! Wish we could have had more of a nod to her, but at least she wasn't completely forgotten. Where the Legion fell down for me was Imra and her whole Lana love fest. Blech. The way Imra was talking she sounded more important than Superman. NOOOOOOOO, PS3, what are you doing?????

It also felt like there was something missing from this episode and I know exactly what it is: no Lois Lane. She is much more important and relevant to Superman's future than Lana, so it was always going to miss the mark, from the moment I knew she wouldn't appear and my feelings were completely justified. She adds an extra spark and a sparkle to Clark's eye. While I felt chemistry between Clark and Lana at the end, it didn't have the same feel as when Lois and Clark are together. Lois competes with Clark and pushes him; in part because she doesn't know what he can really do, so she sees herself as his superior in some aspects. Lana does know and it's a different kind of pushing that she does. She helps him but pushes him to do it alone because she knows she is not his equal. Lois on the other hand, takes more risks, she gets out there and gets dirty and makes Clark come after her. I really wish we could have heard more about her from the Legion than just her name. Sigh. If wishes were horses and all that...

Sorry to digress. All in all: unevenness - 1; Lana love - 1; no Lois -2: total 6.

I apologize for completely reposting this, but as I read your review I found myself agreeing with everything you said. I even gave the episode the same score the day that it aired. There was a lot about this episode that I liked--the acting, the anvils, even a lot of the characterization was okay with me. However, as you said there was something off about it--the unevenness you mentioned, I thought there were a few too many scenes with one person talking about how great another person was, and I love Lois so I missed her even though I can appreciate why she wasn't included in the episode and overall it worked fine without her.

[AgentChaos]

The Legion knew of Brainiac and the attempt to kill Clark now but didn't know Doomsday was incubating? Superman had to be saved by somebody else - again? The origin of the creature that leads to the death of Superman isn't known? Let's make sure we get them both. But no. That's the problem with continuity and time travel to the past - you mess with one thing you change it all.

I'm pretty sure they knew about Doomsday, considering that Rokk told Clark to be careful. But they couldn't have done anything without potentially messing up the future. The only reason they helped with Brainiac was to preserve the future.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I'm pretty sure they knew about Doomsday, considering that Rokk told Clark to be careful. But they couldn't have done anything without potentially messing up the future. The only reason they helped with Brainiac was to preserve the future.

I'm curious to hear your take on the conversation that Clark had with Chloe at the end? Did you feel it was a bit rushed and as Badtoad put it brushed under the carpet as far as what had happened to her and her getting her memory back.

I think they should have focussed on this a lot more. I was disappointed, because leading up to this episode and a good deal in it was Chloe being infected by Brainiac. I was glad her memory was restored. Just wanted to see your thoughts.

[mrw66855]

I'm curious to hear your take on the conversation that Clark had with Chloe at the end? Did you feel it was a bit rushed and as Badtoad put it brushed under the carpet as far as what had happened to her and her getting her memory back.

I think they should have focussed on this a lot more. I was disappointed, because leading up to this episode and a good deal in it was Chloe being infected by Brainiac. I was glad her memory was restored. Just wanted to see your thoughts.

I think there is a good explanation about Chloe getting her memory back into the thread "Chloe remembers Clark's secret-all discussions credit goes to topping82. For the explanation . After reading it I could see that happening and the explanation for it.

[Lis]

Hi Cedric. Your review was awesome (as usual:)), but the first part was incredible! Uncle Cedric and the kids were amazing! I couldn’t stop laughing reading that.


"Go on, kill me..." - Zombie!Chloe, 7:35PM

"I can't reach through the TV screen." - Cedric, seconds later, 7:35PM :lol:


Rokk takes the knife from him and gets ready to do it himself but Clark stops it and lectures them on never killing. I loved the speech and the way TW delivered it. Oh yes, I loved Tom‘s delivery too.


An eery warning from Rokk about Doomsday, before they turn in unison, raising their fists in the air, and then disapear back to their timeline. Wow I think I loved that scene even more than the opening. I totally agree.


It didn't start out as the best episode for Clark, and neither did he have a strong middle of the episode, but the last 3 or 4 scenes with him were extremely strong and I loved all of them. I think the same way. Just - you know, maybe I’m wrong. But I have the feeling, it’s exactly the way Clark is written in almost every episode of Smallville. Except sometimes there are not even the last 3 or 4 scenes. :\ I can’t help, but I see it like this.


I miss Lois. Especially after knowing whats coming. Oh well, I miss Lois too. I loved especially Clark-Lois scenes and I miss them a lot.

I enjoyed the review Cedric. Thanks for sharing. :)
Lis

[monel49]

What a great, rating 10, episode! As someone who grew up with the Legion, I couldn't have been happier. Even the characterizations of LL, SG, and CB were fantastic. One of the best written of all episodes, I loved the embedded nods to Legion history, i.e., "You're such a Sub...", Brainiac 5, etc. Smallville continues to impress with its vitality. Come on TW, sign for next year and let's get planning. It's a shame more people don't know about this show. Consistently, it is one of the best on TV. Battlestar Galactica gets more critical nods, but its unrelenting depression does take a toll. SV is sci-fi and fantasy as it should be--drama, darkness, good v. evil, but no doubt that good always deserves the upper hand.

Again, what a great episode, probably the best since #100, the Reckoning.

***Cedric--just read your review #201. Superb! Thanbks for making me laugh--many times.

[alejandrita439]

:lol:
Cedric..
i love your review :)

is so funny to read it :D

[Wicked Lois]

Cedric, I have never laughed so hard reading something in this board. I loved everything, specially the Star Wars lines.

I really liked the Legion and the Zombie Bride was fine... though I think she should die. MUAHAHHA

[dreamsofnever]

Yet again, your review doesn't disappoint Cedric. It made me laugh so hard that my husband started reading over my shoulder.

You distracted him from Lego Star Wars-now that's talent!

[Phantazma]

Thank you so very much, Geoff Johns!

This episode far surpassed my expectations (and I had some big expectations). I absolutely adore this episode. There was an excellent use of the Legionnaires and their powers. (I would love to see a LoSH series with Geoff Johns at the helm!)

The characterization of the SV characters was the best I've seen in ages. Clark and Lana acted like sensible adults. [Cleansed] Chloe behaved like the Chloe I knew and adored from yesteryear (and sorely missed) instead of this season's freakish Stepford Chloe. (Hopefully, Stepford Chloe was all of Brainiac's doing. Furthermore, thank the heavens, Chloe got her memory back. Maybe hopefully she will get her life back on track towards journalism. She doesn't even need to get back into the newspaper business. Just at least have her start the process of thinking about writing her "great American novel".)

I totally loved the meta-references.

To summarize: Terrific characterizations, inventive use of powers, respectable fan service and satisfactory solution to a quagmire. Fantastic job all-round ==>10.

[KalEltheBoyscout]

The episode was UNBELIEVABLE!!! And I mean that in a very good way. Where do I start? The Legion were so faithful to their personalities in the comics. I love the "Smallville" origin of Brainiac 5. And I applaud Geoff Johns for:

a-Letting Clark remember the day's events instead of Saturn Girl erasing his memories.

b-Not cheating with the whole flight thing. It would have been a waste to see Clark fly for the first time with the help of the Flight Rings. Clark needs to develop that power when he's ready.

c-All the fantastic fan-boy references. I loved the "No flights, no tights" line from Garth.

10/10-Without doubt,the best episode of the season.

[macforty]

legion was really great i see the potential for a pilot show hopefully in the future.
i agree with kal26 lightning lad should have been moore gutsy.but overall i thought
it was excellent.

[kiariclois]

Okie... I watched Legion. It was an okay episode, nothing different than any other episodes except of the people from the future thing. I've seen better episodes, and Justice is still my favorite of the action episode. I'm just gonna give some points on good and bad...

Good:
- Last episode preview (LOIS BABY!!)
- Chloe got possessed (kinda). Allison Mack was Amazing, though she really creeps me out.
- Garth. I LOVE HIM! He brought up the fun scene that Lois normally would. It was the best thing about the show to me.
- When the Legion people flew past Clark, it was soooo amazing. Again, I LOVE Garth!
- Lois mentions...
- Chloe calling Jimmy her "husband" with a very happy tone.
- I love the whole scene involving Rokk wanting to Kill Chloe but Clark won't let him. I like the message of making things right by not killing. So Supermanish
- I love the disappointment Garth was showing of seeing his idol not acting like how he knows him...

Bad:
- No Lois
- Irma worship of Lana. I seriously hate it... Moreover so because of the reason comes after this
- I HATE that girl playing Irma. She's kinda stiff. Seriously... when she's at the Kents farm (when they ask who Chloe is) she's really annoying to see. When she had that "heart-to-heart" with Lana, didn't really believe her.
- I thought they're gonna ask more about Lois, but they didn't seem to care. *shrug in disappointment*
- Clark calls Jor El by his name again... Where's the "Father" calling?
- I don't like Lana very much now... but Kristin looks so darn gorgeous!

Not making any sense...

- The framed pictures at the kents farm. Seriously, Clark still hasn't throw his picture with Lana away.
- AND who in the world took Clark and Lana picture when they're having that picnic? As I remember, it was only the two of them there.
- AND AGAIN... I don't remember seeing Clark being happy at the party for Jonathan in Reckoning (I think)... and yet somebody manage to take their picture in which Clark look so damn happy and not worry about the fact that Lana could die...

They really should think before framing those pictures (stills)... I know SV sometimes didn't make any sense, but on this matter too? Irma should have a weird look on her face when she sees it... My friend told me in the previous episode, there was none on Lana. Apparently even the old Lana framed picture comes back when she's back. Seriously.. not making sense.


It was okay... I really missed Lois and Jimmy... If she's in the episode, I really don't know how they're gonna squeeze her in especially Queen Lana is back... So I guess it's okay that Lois' not around.

[Flying Skyward]

I really enjoyed this episode. It was absolutely stellar. This entire season has been IMO, but I love being reminded of who Clark will be someday! :)

And yeah Chloe! I'm almost cried when they were getting ready to stab her. Eeeek! And a big HAHAHAHA to Clark. Chloe remembers your secret. All is right with the world. ;) lol

[tibbit78]

I really enjoyed this episode. It was absolutely stellar. This entire season has been IMO, but I love being reminded of who Clark will be someday! :)

And yeah Chloe! I'm almost cried when they were getting ready to stab her. Eeeek! And a big HAHAHAHA to Clark. Chloe remembers your secret. All is right with the world. ;) lol






I feel the same way. I am very happy that Chloe remembers Clark's secret! I'm so happy I could leap for joy!!

:D

[STFanatic]

I am still not convinced that she knows "THAT" secret.
She never said which secret she knows, it may be that she caught him with a Playdude magazine in high school :p

[ginnyfan]

I am still not convinced that she knows "THAT" secret.
She never said which secret she knows, it may be that she caught him with a Playdude magazine in high school :p

LOL! That's what my friend said. Not exactly what she said but... :D

I'm happy Chloe remembers but they revealed it in such an offhand way. GRR! More conversation on this subject please. They have to come back to it at some point.

[jobookjunkie]

So I was waiting and waiting and...waiting some more between Bride and Legion, but to my suprise I wasn't as wound up about this episode as I was about Bride (viral flu tends to numb the senses a bit). I sat down to watch Legion today and here is how it played out for me...

A recap - oooh I love these, and there's loads of Lois too. Sadly, it ends and Clark is in Lana's arms. Yeuch. But then she's gone and some extra from Lord of the Rings is there instead, whacks Clark and then disappears. Completely. For the rest of the episode. I mean what was the point of bringing the Persuader in if he was totally useless and ignored? *scratches head* Just to explain to Clark what's going on, three kids arrive in the barn and clunk! there's an anvil bouncing onto my skull. Funny though when Clark splutters "cape?!?!?" :lol:

Garth, Imra and Rokk are not bad, actually. Imra has a very distracting colour of eye shadow, and to be honest a really rubbish superpower, but she's nice. Garth is such a fanboy he makes me laugh (at myself mainly, that's me right there), and as for Rokk..ah. Sensible, calm, dry sense of humour - good thing he's standing next to Clark or I might take a bit of a shine to him! Hmmm, I wonder if John Jones has ever asked Clark for that crystal back.

Chloiac is creeeepy, although I may be the only person who thinks that all the shots of her/it in the wedding dress in the Fortress are a bit poetic. Bless Davis, he has his own credit and everything, but is criminally underused, except for maybe his chest which seems to appear as often as he does :lol: Allison is doing a good job with replicating James Marsters' speech rhythm, she does sound like him.

Clark is now being persuaded to kill Chloe. Are they serious? If they look up to Superman i.e. Clark they will know fine rightly he would never even allow that thought to cross his mind or anyone else's. At least he runs away from them and their morbidity...aw shoot, they can fly. Clark has really got to start doing that, I have a fictional story in progress that demands he fly or the whole world will be destroyed. Clunk! Clunk! Clunk! I'm getting a bump on the head from all the anvils flying in my direction.

We're at Isis again, and now I know that PS3 are being influenced by the Dark Side. Since when did Lana Lang have an important role to play??? This is crossing the line - Smallville is supposed to bend the Superman mythology, not break it into little pieces and jump on them. Chloe's death is the spur for Clark to become Superman? Gimme a break, Clark might love his BFF but I'm not letting that pass without complaint.

Has the episode started yet? I'm still waiting for the Big Exciting Story to kick in, this is all just prologue. More Fortress...ooo, Clark has his angry face on :D and then gets pounded for his trouble. Those Legionaires are starting to get on my nerves a bit, they're being too underplayed. Rokk is keeping the faith though, so I suppose I should too.

Okay, what is this? Clark did you seriously just suggest you might kill your friend to save the world because those are your only options? And Lana is the one telling him what he shou-what.the.HELL HAS HAPPENED TO MY SHOW (excuse my language) :eek: :mad: Is this even Smallville any more?? The scenes on screen are blurring past as my jaw drops to floor and I try to remember how to close it again.

Hmmm, techno-exorcism. Interesting concept, think I'll use that in a story. Special effects are good here, but what grabs my attention is Clark's attitude to Chloe, its very touching the way that he is so concerned for her. Now that her memory is back, Chloe's off to see the wizard. Wait, no, that can't be right...it's Jimmy she's going to see. Lois is mentioned, yay. This prologue is getting better, I'm now actually interested in what's gonna happen in the rest of the episode.

Clark smiles at his future friends, and then they're gone, along with what I think is the molten remains of a Dwarf Star. What are the chances that there will be a stand selling replica Legion rings at ComicCon this year? Aaaaand once again there's a chat between Clark and Lana on the porch....oops, must have nodded off.

Why are the closing credits rolling? You mean to tell me that's it? The whole episode?? Well I am feeling distinctly underwhelmed. Something was missing from this episode and I've been wracking my brains trying to work out what it is. The directing was fine, as was the script and the performances from both regular and guest stars, but the whole thing felt a bit limp, like maybe the crew were knackered after Bride and couldn't find the energy to put 110% into Legion. I've watched much better episodes, to be honest.

*screws eyes up and tries really hard to find something positive to say* Oh, I know what was good - Tom. He acts his heart out, even when he gets utter rubbish written for him. And Cedric wrote another cracker review - thank you, O Great One :D

[marcella]

I loved it.I give it a 10.Something that surprised me is that i didn't mind Lana at all.I'm intriguided with what will happen in next episodes with Lana,that leaves her mark in the world.Garth is my favorite leggionaire:DBrainiac 5 reference:priceless.The only thing that I didn't like was lois' absence.I miss her:(

[skizzo]

It was good, but having Lana around made it a 9, not having Lois, a 10. Having people praise Lana is a welcome change from the Clois pimping other characters had to do during this whole season.

[marcella]

Cedric,your review is hilarious:lol:

[Promise]

It was good, but having Lana around made it a 9, not having Lois, a 10. Having people praise Lana is a welcome change from the Clois pimping other characters had to do during this whole season.


Double Applause for that, so True. Loved the porch sunny scene with Clana as well, reminded me of old Smallville and the early Clana.

[Hopefulsuicide]

it was okay

i gave it an 8

things i enjoyed - Alison's performance, the intrigue surrounding why she isn't known in the future, Clark's insistence on not killing someone

things i disliked - Lana (after finding her surprisingly not irritating in Bride, it seems shes back to being annoying), Lana being given some kind of huge heroic role, the complete lack of imagination of the league and their surprise that Clark didn't want to kill anyone, the cheesy 'lets work together' idea... i mean really all it needed was magnetism, the rest was kinda pointless and just stuck in to promote a 'team' feel

Bride was ALOT better IMO. The lack of Oliver, Lois, Jimmy and any mention of Lex really did pull away from the wonderful way the 8th season has been going

it almost felt as though the episode didnt fit. that it was sort of out of place in a season that had been going really well. it felt more like a season 7 episode...

[Mickey_Bickey]

I think there is a good explanation about Chloe getting her memory back into the thread "Chloe remembers Clark's secret-all discussions credit goes to topping82. For the explanation . After reading it I could see that happening and the explanation for it.


Thank you! I'll check it out!:)

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Kent Farm. A picture of Lana and him is still in his living room. You have GOT to be kidding me. Why do I sense we've come upon another pathetic lifeform. And there she, Lana. Yeah, Kal El is one good guy isn't he. This.. tuskin raider.. has the gull to ask Imra if she and Clark will be an item in the future. Imra squashes it in a nice way, but I don't think Lana got it through her thick skull though. She's going to make a move on Clark.

At the barn there's a really nice geek out moment with Garth asking Clark to sign a baseball. Now that the barn is fixed they prepare to leave. Brainiac 5 will be made from Milton Fine's Brainiac. So thats the last we'll ever see of Smallville's Brainiac? Another thanks from the Legion to Clark and the adding of preserving life at all costs to the code. Its cool that they even mimmick Clark's Superman nod to each other. Clark is given a Legion ring that only time travels. Thats definately going to come into play later on. An eery warning from Rokk about Doomsday, before they turn in unison, raising their fists in the air, and then disapear back to their timeline. Wow I think I loved that scene even more than the opening.

Outside on the porch, Lana the Hut finds Clark admiring the ring. He doesn't know if he'll live up to his legendary status, but Lana is there to give some positive reinforcement......

Just.. finish ..the review Cedric.

Clark asks about what she was told but Lana has the audacity to basically say that she'll defy history and make her own destiny. Yep, she's definately going to make a play for Clark. But as you'll find out Lana.. your destiny is already sealed and there is nothing you can do to rob Clark of his future with Lois. I can't wait until you realize that.

Cedric, this review is awesome. I especially loved this part! May the force be with you!:lol:

[tyson08]

Cedric, I normally love your reviews but I could have done without the hate on Chloe. Besides those parts, it was great!

[Kandorman]

I thought the writing by Geoff Johns was clever. Helping to bring Clark closer to his destiny by using a visitation by super hero aliens from the future who let him know that his future is one that includes intergalactic legend and admiration was a great way to push forward the maturation of Clark to the Man of Steel.

I am ambivalent about the heaviness of Lana's character at this stage and feel like this is some back-pedaling. On the other hand, I have always enjoyed the chemistry between her and Clark. At this stage, however, we need more Lois and less Lana like what we got in the previous episode.

I was really concerned that this episode was Chloe's swan song and I am happy to see that she remains (for the present at least). She is such a good actress and she was absolutely convincing as Brainiac.

When Clark flies and/or puts on the tights, I predict that Smallville's journey will be done. I am eager to see where the trip takes us in the remaining (and probably final) episodes this season.

[claudiss]

Loved the epidode. The superman references were amazing! and Tom looked so hot...

[Xanderman]

My take on the episode:

First, the Legion. The blonde chick ("Imra") looked like she was sleeping her way through her lines or like she got an injection of horse tranquilizer before shooting. (I wanted to strangle her, lol I think Clark should have made her his one exception to his "never kill" rule.) The leader ("Rokk") was boring and one dimensional. And Lightning Dweeb ("Garth") was just that, a dweeb. Bad casting. Needless to say, I hated the Legion. So anyway, if they're Superman's biggest fans and were inspired by him, how could they not know his principles on killing? I mean these unnecessary cartoon characters apparently WORSHIPPED the man, knew everything there was to know about him, including recognizing stuff missing from the history books or museums. And yet Clark (PRE-Superman Clark, that is) had to give them a lesson on what every hobo and his cousin should know about Superman full well? The trio was completely pointless, boring, nerdy and a waste of time. If it was a nod to comics, those comics should be burned.

And why did CLARK have to give them the idea to find a more creative, less lethal way of dealing with Chloe/Brainiac. These guys acted like they knew what they were doing, but the best idea they had was "stab Chloe to death"? Lol I mean they have various superpowers, a knife is something any of us would use. Clark Kent, resident BDA for 7 seasons strong, had to school them on their own powers and "another way"? Come on.

And why was Lightning Nerd surprised that Clark/pre-Supes couldn't fly yet? They said they knew everything about him.

And what were they thinking flying just outside the Skytrain tracks? Weren't they worried somebody in Vancouver/Burnaby/Surrey would notice? I guess Canadians don't count. lol (Lightning Lad: "Oh my god, I think a train just passed by. They saw us." Clark: "Who cares. It's just Canada." lol)

And why oh why are they continuing to spend so much time focusing on Lana? I thought they were finally pushing Lois/Clark this year front and center, leaving Lana behind once and for all, but nope. Just like in an earlier ep this season, Lois is just ignored (allowing another female character to take the spotlight--this time Lana, previously it was Chloe). Does anybody really care that Lana is supposedly going to have this great future that's not connected to Clark/Superman? I mean who the heck cares?

Why did Lana automatically think Imra was crazy and that she needed to get (psychiatric) help when she said she was from the future? Such a line would make sense from an earlier Lana, a Lana from long ago, but not the current Super-Lana who has literally seen it all and done it all. Dumb.

Lana: "I know I've only been gone seven months but I'm a different person now."

Instead of having Lana tell us that she's different, why don't they just SHOW us how she's different and make the viewer come to that conclusion themselves? I hate how Smallville always tells us what to think, or what conclusions we're supposed to be making. A sign of weak writing/character/story development. (They've done this repeatedly with the Lois/Clark relationship.)

Also, some more Clark-to-Superman lightswitching. But that's been going on this whole season though so it's to be expected.

So overall, I thought the Legion stuff was pointless and lame (wasn't the Justice League cartoony stuff enough?). Too many outside influences on Clark's decision to become Superman on this show--wasn't Green Arrow enough? Now we have random characters nobody cares about from the far future giving Clark hints on his great destiny and more incentive to continue on his path because it's clearly the right one (I mean he KNOWS he's going to be legendary). More outside interference... This nonsense, along with continued focus on Lana for whatever inexplicable reason (plus the no-show of Lois), made this ep easily one of the weaker eps in the season for me. That said, I thought Allison Mack was fantastic in this (she remains one of the series' all-time best actors) and I did enjoy the more "Superman"-like Clark, even if it is relatively a lightswitch occurrence.

4/10

[LuckyKrypto]

I really enjoyed this episode a lot! The writing and pacing of this I thought just moved along so well. Left me wanting more. :)
I'm so glad someone is writing Clark to move along at becoming the Super hero in training I have been dying to watch. Thank you Thank you!! I also liked a story that moved along Lana's character much better than I have seen in a long time. (I grew up under the impression from stories I had read that Lana was a help to Clark, not a hindrance as she has been portrayed for many years.) Overall I just really enjoyed this episode very much.

[skully]

Excellent epi.

Great tie-in with the destiny of Supes.

Garth, Rokk and Imra were great (especially Garth, who had a great fan boy outlook towards Kal - loved the references to "No glasses, no flights, no tights" and "You will be know as Su...."). The link with the visit by the Legion to stop the Persuader intervening in the distruction of Brainiac was excellent, as was the reference to Brainiac 5.

AM's performance was superb as Chloiac. And KK did a good job (despite what the haters may say). TW was his normal supermanly self.

And Doomy is about to go on the rampage. And does this mean no more James Marsters this season?

Very enjoyable episode. 9/10

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And I look forward to Triplet's review. :)

[Saturn Girl]

Hi everyone...

I'm new here (1st post) but I absolutely love Smallville! Since I'm late to the party, I couldn't get the name "Supergirl" or Kara Zor-El so decided upon Saturn Girl seeing as she appeared in the latest episode.

Anyways, I loved this episode scoring it a 10. As a dyed in the wool Baby Boomer, I loved the fact that the 3 original Legion members were featured. I also giggled at the Legion's mention of Brainiac 5.

The characterization was excellent as usual and the costuming for the Legion members was first-rate.

I'm a really sentimental person so this episode also appealed to my love of nostalgia.

[Tompouce]

I really enjoyed this episode. It was absolutely stellar. This entire season has been IMO, but I love being reminded of who Clark will be someday! :)

And yeah Chloe! I'm almost cried when they were getting ready to stab her. Eeeek! And a big HAHAHAHA to Clark. Chloe remembers your secret. All is right with the world. ;) lol
Clark/TW was stellar, this is exactly the right word:)But as I said in another topic, I was disappointed by the Legion. I find them boring and insignifiant. Thanks to Clark, to me the epi was saved. I like it very very much because of him, he was so...waow !;)

[candor]

the best episode yet! but i kinda miss lois when she is not in a whole episode i like it when she meets other dc characters. and i felt bad for lighting lad when clark squeezed him.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I think Lighting Lad enjoyed being squeezed by his hero...didnt you see him smile afterwards, it was cute

[candor]

i understand if you dont like comic books this episode might not seem so great, but to me (a huge comic book dork) this episode gave me and anyone who watches smallville for the SUPERMAN aspect of the show, everything they wanted to see and got our dork off in a huge way. and please keep in mind geoff johns writes SUPERMAN, ACTION COMICS, AND GREEN LANTERN, aside from G.L those are about SUPERMAN not SMALLVILLE, so trying alter the character he knows and loves to fit the continuity of smallville had to be a little bit different for him. ps. (notice the part where lightning lad says "no glasses, no tights, no flights this guys nothing like the man of steel") nice little jab at gough and millar by geoff. im glad they are gone!

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he kinda looked scared to me, but they were bros in the end and clark gave him the baseball so no harm no foul.

[lovinredkclark]

I am still not convinced that she knows "THAT" secret.
She never said which secret she knows, it may be that she caught him with a Playdude magazine in high school :p

true true, well not about the playdude.
but all chloe said was that she could never forget that secret.
so maybe your right, its not THAT secret she remembers.

[shamville]

Hate it.
I think that rokk didn't like chloe he want to kill her, without think it through. I think rokk must have bad childhood he have anger issue. Lighting lad good and other member ok.

[actaeon]

An okay episode. Interesting that the name Chloe Sullivan is unknown to the future (insert speculation here). I found the Legion Kids extremely annoying-- the fanboy gushing got old really quick, the jailbait in red pleather needs acting lessons, and adolescents who can't grow a beard yet should shave.

I enjoyed seeing Clark get hit with an axe. It's about time, for all the dumb and jerky stuff he's done and will do.

Time travel plots make no sense, but they can be fun. These Legion kids come back from the future to make sure that the future they know actually happens. Even though they know for certain that the future turns out the way it is, because otherwise they wouldn't be experiencing it the way they are in fact experiencing it... (my head hurts).

[Farview]

I've never been a big Legion of Superheroes fan, but I know enough about them to have enjoyed this episode immensely, right down to the statement about their turning Brainiac into Brainiac 5. Like a previous poster, I was pretty intrigued by their comment about Chloe Sullivan being unknown to the future... I have always thought that the series would end with Chloe being killed and Clark becoming Superman in her memory, but if she's not known in the future of the Smallville universe, that seems unlikely. I hope they can get Geoff Johns to write some more episodes for the series.

[STFanatic]

Another thing I just remembered, Garth (Lightning Lad) mentioned his sister (Light Lass, his twin), not by name, but she was mentioned.

[marcella]

^^^That is pretty cool

[F..l]

9/10 because I expected more action and I miss Lois ...
but legion was good,especially Alexz Johnson http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love016.gif I hope,then they will come back (even in season nine :D) ....

[frankenerie]

This was a very well put together episode. Having been a fan of the LSH for over 30 years it was great to finally see the Characters of Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl & Lightning Lad in live action. I would liove to see a spin off or at least more appearances come from this.:)