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GhostRaider
01-01-2009, 06:51 AM
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Will Chuck be renewed for next year or will it be cancelled?

Posted on 29 December 2008 by Robert Seidman

In the spirit of “why put off until tomorrow (or next April) what you can do today,” I wanted to chime in on NBC’s Chuck. Plus, it’s a good enough excuse for me to put off going to the DMV until tomorrow.

I love Chuck. It may be my favorite show so far this season and I’ve really enjoyed season two. There are many reasons to love Chuck, from all the homage it pays to the 1980s to Yvonne Strahovski. I love almost all of the characters on Chuck, and my favorite character may be Adam Baldwin in the role of John Casey. And he’s not nearly as easy on my old eyes as Ms. Strahovski.

Baldwin being on Chuck is immediately somewhat troubling since he played the role of Jayne Cobb on Firefly, which wasn’t exactly a ratings juggernaut. Firefly has a very vocal and loyal base of fans on the Internet. Which weirdly also includes some people who’d like to see Chuck fail because if it succeeds they’d view it as an indictment that Chuck is better than Firefly. I roll my eyes at such notions, but, that’s life on the Internet.

As is often noted here, “better than” is a subjective thing. We can be objective about the ratings. And we can probably be more objective about which shows would naturally have a wider appeal, though if I say I think Chuck theoretically has wider appeal than Firefly, it’s still pretty subjective.

I do think Chuck does have a wider appeal potentially, but it still has faced an uphill climb ratings-wise. In our Renew or Cancel Index it has bounced from barely being renewed to barely being cancelled for pretty much the entire season. Will it be back? As a fan, I sure hope so. When I try to put on my objective ratings cap, my prediction is that it will be back, but there is no doubt that it is currently a show “on the bubble”.

Chuck was one of several shows from the strike-riddled 2007-2008 season that was impaired by the strike. Of course, we can really only speculate on whether the strike was good or bad for Chuck. While the strike may have hurt the normal course of events, it’s equally possible that if not for the strike NBC wouldn’t have brought it back for another chance this year. From that standpoint, Chuck has fared better than ABC’s now cancelled trio of Pushing Daisies, Eli Stone and Dirty Sexy Money which were cousins of Chuck in that all of those shows also had fall premieres in the strike-riddled 2007-2008 season.

At this point, the list of scripted shows that premiered in the Fall of 2007 and survived can almost be counted on one hand by my tally. The biggest success of the lot is CBS’ The Big Bang Theory. There’s Chuck, there’s Gossip Girl on the CW (which ironically is executive produced by Chuck executive producer and co-creator Josh Schwartz) ABC’s Samantha Who? (and where would that be without its massive Dancing With the Stars lead-in?)and there’s Private Practice which ABC is moving to Thursdays after Grey’s Anatomy. NBC’s Life is also hanging on, but if Chuck fans are worried about Chuck’s prospects, Life fans need some epinephrine to avoid going into anaphylactic shock.

Of those six shows, only Gossip Girl and The Big Bang Theory seem completely out of the woods ratings-wise. Still, if I am Mr. Schwartz I’m feeling pretty good about having one-third of the shows remaining from fall 2007 premieres. And sure, it’s at least a bit curious that three out of the six shows all air at exactly same time (Mondays at 8pm).

Many will chime in with “Chuck suffers from its competitive time slot which also includes Monday Night Football!” My response to that is that Sunday through Thursday all the slots are pretty competitive between 8p-10pm. Trust me the one thing you don’t want to see is Chuck moved to Fridays (bye bye Lipstick Jungle!) or worse, Saturdays (au revoir Crusoe!). I’d prefer not to see Chuck on Sundays because that means it would only air after January (NBC has Sunday Night Football for the fall season). For next fall, that really only leaves Monday through Thursday from 8pm-10pm for Chuck since Jay Leno will take over the 10p-11p slot Monday-Friday next fall.

It seems very, very unlikely that NBC would tinker much with its Thursday schedule or its Tuesday schedule (which will seemingly be two hours of The Biggest Loser plus Jay Leno) which leaves only Monday or Wednesday for Chuck. If I am NBC I would want to air Chuck at 8pm, and that’s still a very competitive hour on Wednesdays, especially once American Idol begins.

The good news for Chuck is that when it comes back in February it will not have to compete with Monday Night Football. The bad news is that Fox is moving House to Mondays at 8pm. That will be a very, competitive hour especially come March when Dancing With the Stars returns.

Chuck should get a lot of on-air promotion during this year’s Super Bowl so a.) pray for a matchup of either New York Giants vs. Pittsburgh or New York Giants vs. Indianapolis so as many people as possible will watch the Super Bowl, and b.)hope the promotion during the Super Bowl for the special 3D episode will generate a nice bump for Chuck when it returns and that some of those folks stick around.

My opinion at this point is that if Chuck experiences any kind of increases or even stays about where it is now, it will be back next fall. My reasons are basically predicated on two things which may not be true:

1. NBC isn’t going to give up completely on scripted shows. Tuesdays (unscripted) and Thursdays (comedies) seem like a lock. But I don’t see NBC giving up all of the Monday and Wednesday 8p-10p block over to unscripted programming. At least not yet. And if so, that’s good news for Chuck. Knight Rider already appears doomed for next year, and Life (and I enjoy Life very much, though admittedly I enjoy Chuck more) has numbers that Bill would deem so bad, that especially if you’re a fan, you have to look away when you see them.

2. NBC is as enamored with Chuck as I am. That may be wrong to begin with, and even if it isn’t, a ratings slide would definitely erode how enamored it is. But if it is stable or improves even slightly, I don’t see NBC chucking Chuck, Knight Rider and Life all at the same time, and Law & Order hasn’t been doing great either. Chuck currently is outperforming all three of those shows (plus Kath & Kim to boot).

I conclude for now that Chuck will be back in the fall of 2009. I reserve the right to change my mind based on ratings or other events. If Jeff Zucker gets in the news by firing Ben Silverman and/or is quoted saying “we don’t really believe in scripted programming for the broadcast network” all bets are off.

closetclana
01-01-2009, 09:53 AM
This is interesting. Are we at the point where we have to start promoting Chuck with all our friends to keep it on air?

It's frustrating because there is so much crap on TV. I mean really, aren't we in like the 16th season of ER? Not to mention reality TV like the Bachelor and Wife Swap which are totally unwatchable imo.

Chuck is a great show. It's funny and serious and interesting and just fun to watch. Let's just hope that it hangs on to see a 3rd season.

DarkClone
01-01-2009, 11:15 AM
With the premise of the show being what it is . . . it is hard to see it going for 6-7 seasons. But a 3-4 season stint if written well could be very rewarding.

jkashuba07
01-01-2009, 01:17 PM
i honestly think the show is going to get better and better, if they renew it, i think its going to recieve a mass amount of new fans, especially with a couple of shows getting cancelled this year. And like I said elsewhere, NBC is a very forgiving network, they like to give shows chances to build up their ratings even if they arent a instant hit. The biggest example is "The Office" cancelled it after six episodes but at last minute decided to give it another chance, and look at where it is now? Even won an Emmy already! Which so did Chuck, but the point is, that NBC isn't like the other networks who just cancel a show if they are only doing mediocre the first 2 seasons. NBC does like to give shows chances. You also have to realize, that NBC isn't the most watched network, infact I think they rank fourth, maybe third. If they were the number one network watched and Chuck was only averaging 6.5-7 million people, then yea I would say its only hurting the network, But for how many people watch NBC as a whole, Chuck is doing quite well in my opinion. If the show stays like it is, we'll see 3-5 seasons, if it keeps getting better and better which i think it will, we'll see 6-8 seasons probably!

closetclana
01-01-2009, 03:30 PM
If the show stays like it is, we'll see 3-5 seasons, if it keeps getting better and better which i think it will, we'll see 6-8 seasons probably!

The key to the longevity of the show is to find a way to keep the Chuck/Sarah relationship fresh and interesting. We can't do this love triangle thing relentlessly for all the seasons. Though I don't know if getting them together right away is the best option either.

I would like to see them be forced to live together next season. That would give fodder for a lot of good interactions and plot lines. Maybe the season after that they could actually get together and that would be the last season.

I agree that I don't see this show going longer then 4 or 5 seasons tops (it may only last three).

DarkClone
01-01-2009, 04:11 PM
Yeah . . . I just don't see how you could make this last 6 or more seasons without it being too drawn out.

If they do this triangle thing this season, it should be the last one . . . next season the missions get a bit more in depth, perhaps lasting more than one episode, and the relationship problems become more of a focus . . . because with the way things are going to go, a cover relationship should be extremely difficult for Ellie, awesome, morgan, and others to believe

jkashuba07
01-01-2009, 08:24 PM
Well keep in mind, that the creaters and producers plan on doing 6 seasons, only thing thats going to stop that is the ratings. I agree triangles have to stop, I also believe that the writers are clever enuf to put them together, and still be able to write good stories without the show being dull. I have a feeling they'll move in together at the end of the season, Ellie might kick him out now that shes married, tells him to move in with Sarah, because he's been together with her for 2 years now!

stump69
01-06-2009, 01:40 AM
'Chuck' is my favorite show on NBC (of the ones that I watch - including Life & Knight Rider). On top of the intelligent writing and tight direction, the best reason to watch is the presence of Yvonne Strahovski as the lovely Sarah. Wherever did the casting director find such a luminous, ethereal beauty? Wow! I very much hope that it does get renewed for a 3rd season and beyond.

closetclana
01-06-2009, 08:46 AM
Yes, I agree that Yvonne is beautiful and she plays the roll very well. But it is really the writing that makes this a great show. Sarah has been written into such an interesting 3 dimensional character. I think she is the most interesting character on the show and the fact that we still know so little about her, makes her that more appealing imo.

What I do love about Miss Strahovski is that she communicates so much with just her eyes. I think Yvonne Strahovski and Kristin Kreuk are very similar in this way.

jkashuba07
01-06-2009, 09:23 PM
Yes, I agree that Yvonne is beautiful and she plays the roll very well. But it is really the writing that makes this a great show. Sarah has been written into such an interesting 3 dimensional character. I think she is the most interesting character on the show and the fact that we still know so little about her, makes her that more appealing imo.

What I do love about Miss Strahovski is that she communicates so much with just her eyes. I think Yvonne Strahovski and Kristin Kreuk are very similar in this way.


Yea I love that about Yvonne. She could say nothing and you'll know what shes thinking by eyes

Redhouse
01-10-2009, 05:40 PM
I love "Chuck" and would absolutely HATE to see more reality/unscripted shows (IMO they're all crap except for "Top Gear" on the BBC). Fortunately, the last episode of "Chuck" received the most viewers since Week 11 from Season 1 and shot them up from the 40's and 50's in rankings to #27 (all according to Wikipedia, whom I deem a reliable source). Hopefully this shows NBC that there is still a place for "Chuck." The only problem with the show is I don't see how they are going to make it a long lasting show plot-wise. I really really love all of the characters, and I would hate to see anyone be forced to leave, but I think in the end, in order to change things up, they might get rid of Sarah and bring in a completely new person. Otherwise the show might get stale fast.

jkashuba07
01-10-2009, 10:45 PM
I love "Chuck" and would absolutely HATE to see more reality/unscripted shows (IMO they're all crap except for "Top Gear" on the BBC). Fortunately, the last episode of "Chuck" received the most viewers since Week 11 from Season 1 and shot them up from the 40's and 50's in rankings to #27 (all according to Wikipedia, whom I deem a reliable source). Hopefully this shows NBC that there is still a place for "Chuck." The only problem with the show is I don't see how they are going to make it a long lasting show plot-wise. I really really love all of the characters, and I would hate to see anyone be forced to leave, but I think in the end, in order to change things up, they might get rid of Sarah and bring in a completely new person. Otherwise the show might get stale fast.


They can't get rd of Sarah, she has a very specific iron-clawed 6 year contract!

Redhouse
01-10-2009, 11:51 PM
They can't get rd of Sarah, she has a very specific iron-clawed 6 year contract!

Well, it's not like I WANT to get rid of her, it's just that I could foresee it happening to deepen the plot. They could get rid of anyone else, sure, but as much as it would pain me to see Sarah go, it would pain me even more to see someone such as Ellie or John go, too. And getting rid of say Lester or Jeff wouldn't add much to anything, and losing Morgan would be kind of pointless since Morgan is Chuck's main man, and you lose the immature influences on Chuck. And you just CANNOT get rid of Awesome. That would be a heinous crime.

jkashuba07
01-11-2009, 08:57 AM
Well, it's not like I WANT to get rid of her, it's just that I could foresee it happening to deepen the plot. They could get rid of anyone else, sure, but as much as it would pain me to see Sarah go, it would pain me even more to see someone such as Ellie or John go, too. And getting rid of say Lester or Jeff wouldn't add much to anything, and losing Morgan would be kind of pointless since Morgan is Chuck's main man, and you lose the immature influences on Chuck. And you just CANNOT get rid of Awesome. That would be a heinous crime.


lol I'm just saying, It can't happen! I didn't say u wanted it to.

DarkClone
01-11-2009, 12:02 PM
RedHouse . . . Top Gear is awesome!! And yeah, they won't be getting rid of Sarah, but you feel the same way we do around here . . . the love triangles will get old really fast, so they're gonna need some fresh ideas to keep the show going for more than say 3 seasons.

6-Super-Man -5
01-11-2009, 03:13 PM
Hopefully its renewed.