Plot Holes in this Episode?

[Newb]

Young Hiro not mourning the death of his mother?

Peter's scar on the wrong side and not healing once he got his abilities back.

Sylar not being able to hear Claire's heartbeat before she stabbed him in the back of the head.

[Lawliet]

Well mini Hiro I guess does not really know what happened to his mother because it was never established. Peter did not heal because he started out with a blank slate of powers and only got Nathan's. For the scar maybe in the alternate futures Arthur was not there so he got it differently as well the scar is way smaller. Sylar i believe was too busy trying to kill Angela to get her to tell him who her parent's were.

[Newb]

Haha. Now, now. Let's not start rationalizing the plot holes. However, you have a valid point about Peter and having to start again from scratch.

[Ginx]

Young Hiro not mourning the death of his mother?

Peter's scar on the wrong side and not healing once he got his abilities back.

Sylar not being able to hear Claire's heartbeat before she stabbed him in the back of the head.

Young Hiro was sad. But it hadn't been that long that she had past.

As the other poster said, different realities/timelines. Peter had that scar in a few possible future's and he could still get it since he doesn't have Claire's powers yet. At least I think that Peter is having to re-establish his powers again.

Sylar was monologing. Classic mistake by a villain and he was too into talking to Angela so he didn't hear Claire. I think that he got too cocky.

not really plotholes to me at all. just different points of view I guess.

[Newb]

not really plotholes to me at all. just different points of view I guess.
perhaps to the loyalists. For the general viewers, it's more likely to generate even more dropped viewers.

[the highlander]

Yes.. he was too into angela... And when you have that kind of control and power you want it longer...

[Newb]

Nah, I dont buy it...one can rationalize it all you want. With his superhearing he can hear a heart beat far away. Maybe he no longer has that ability. In fact, he should've never got it as it really creates more plot holes.

[fzbandit]

perhaps to the loyalists. For the general viewers, it's more likely to generate even more dropped viewers.

If it were just a general viewer watching, I dont think they'd know enough in-depth on the series for a far-fetched theory like this to cause them to stop watching. They are just general viewers right?? MOD EDIT

[haydenclaireheroes]

Young Hiro not mourning the death of his mother?

Peter's scar on the wrong side and not healing once he got his abilities back.

Sylar not being able to hear Claire's heartbeat before she stabbed him in the back of the head.

the only one i can answer is the claire one because sylar did not have that power ever since the shanti virus.

[JW_102792]

Young Hiro not mourning isn't a plothole. You keep making these posts, and claiming that we're trying to defend the shows too much, when really we're just explaining why it's not a plot hole.

I can agree, he should've been, but for story reasons, he got over it quickly.

We don't even know that's going to be a scar, he might get Claire's power again (likely) and heal (unlikely) and even then, time changed, so he got it in a different spot. That's not a plot hole, they don't miss things like accidently putting the scar in the wrong spot.

And Sylar lost all his previous powers minus TK & IA when he got the Shanti virus, it was confirmed. And he somehow managed to get them back between now and I Am Become Death (also confirmed)

Please, again, everything you don't understand isn't a plot hole. I can understand asking for an explanation, but don't call it a plot hole.

Plot holes are things that go against things that have been stated in previous episodes/interviews, etc. None of these are plot holes.

[griffyn612]

yeah, i don't think he had the super-hearing anymore. if i remember correctly, the woman he stole it from knew he was lying to her right before she died because she could hear his heart speed up or something. if he still had that, he wouldn't have needed the new one.

[Newb]

If it were just a general viewer watching, I dont think they'd know enough in-depth on the series for a far-fetched theory like this to cause them to stop watching. They are just general viewers right?? MOD EDIT
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Young Hiro not mourning isn't a plothole. You keep making these posts, and claiming that we're trying to defend the shows too much, when really we're just explaining why it's not a plot hole.
it's not logical in the realm of the show, especially since Hiro has such strong feelings for his mom. that's a plot hole. you're defending the show quite a bit here and elsewhere on the net. MOD EDIT

[beoulve1]

I'm wondering if Peter didn't heal because he doesn't have that power anymore. Maybe when he injected himself with the formula, it just restored his original power, but since Nathan was in the room, he absorbed flying again and flew them out of there. He is going to have to acquire abilities again.

[STFanatic]

Young Hiro looked pretty darn sad to me, he wasn't even playing his gameboy.

[znz212]

Young Hiro not mourning the death of his mother?

Peter's scar on the wrong side and not healing once he got his abilities back.

Sylar not being able to hear Claire's heartbeat before she stabbed him in the back of the head.

None of these are plot holes. No-one is rationalizing. You're just wrong.

1. Young Hiro likely doesn't know what's fully going on. He may not have even seen his mom dead yet. Maybe he's repressing his emotions.

2. This is a different time line. We don't know how or when he got the other scar. Is it a plot hole the Knox is now dead even though he was in the future before? Yah...exactly.

3. Sylar lost all his powers and had to regain them. He had already killed the super-hearing woman, so he couldn't get that power back.


People are being WAY too picky. The only major plot hole/continuity issue I've had was is the last episode, how the hell did Arthur teleport back in time. Who did he absorb the power from? If he already had it, why did he steal it from Hiro in the past in order to send Claire back to the future?

[Holo]

how the hell did Arthur teleport back in time. Who did he absorb the power from? If he already had it, why did he steal it from Hiro in the past in order to send Claire back to the future?

He stole the teleportation/time travel power from Peter when he took all of his powers, and I'm guessing he took it from Hiro so he couldn't go back to the future and mess things up even more.

[hellnback]

if i were sylar i would look hard for a person that has eyes in the back of his head. steal that from them so that he will never be snuck up again. c'mon hiro snuck up on sylar, now claire. dang it sylar you need to grow eyes in the back of your head.

does anyone else think sylar has a crush on claire? maybe that's why he was picking on her so much. good thing they're not really related.

[tomos]

None of these are plot holes. No-one is rationalizing. You're just wrong.

1. Young Hiro likely doesn't know what's fully going on. He may not have even seen his mom dead yet. Maybe he's repressing his emotions.

2. This is a different time line. We don't know how or when he got the other scar. Is it a plot hole the Knox is now dead even though he was in the future before? Yah...exactly.

3. Sylar lost all his powers and had to regain them. He had already killed the super-hearing woman, so he couldn't get that power back.


People are being WAY too picky. The only major plot hole/continuity issue I've had was is the last episode, how the hell did Arthur teleport back in time. Who did he absorb the power from? If he already had it, why did he steal it from Hiro in the past in order to send Claire back to the future?

pete. he took peters abilities remember?

as for sylar - i dont think he lost all his powers, otherwise his telekenisis (sp?) wouldnt have been there after he healed himself.

[pycer]

Not everything that hasn't been explained is a plot hole. Nothing on your list Newb is a plothole in any way, shape or form. Perhaps you should read up more fully on the definition of that word.

Young Hiro- most kids, hell most adults, do not find out about the death of a loved one and go right into crying and sobbing. Usually, they react just like young Hiro did. Just kinda there. Little numb. Add to that that adult Hiro giving young Hiro a 'mission', something to focus on, and with Hiro's sense of duty bam...makes perfect sense.

Oh dear lord, the scar thing. Following your logic, because he did not get injured in the same place we saw him have a scar many years down the line that means, in your head, you don't think the futures we've seen in various incarnations in this show should be mutable or avoidable. Using your logic then, the entire show would be a plot hole as the future we saw in S1 was changed, then the future we saw in S2 was changed. And now, the futures we've seen in S3 has changed, but in your mind....thats just not possible. If Peter can't either avoid getting said scar or having a scar in a different place, then nothing else about the future visions should be changeable either. Right, Newb? Has the entire show since they avoided the explosion in New York been a plot hole then?

Sylar's hearing power...I do keep seeing lots of indications that SYlar did loose a number of his abilities that he had acquired. I will give you that if this is the case, it has not been explained to my satisfaction either. Perhaps too, Sylar has to actively 'use' certain powers, as if he still had the hearing power just like the original person did, he would suffer like she does and be wearing headphones all the time, clearly he doesnt. I don't thing Claire being able to sneak up on him is a plot hole, simply something that hasnt been fully explained yet. Does he have all his old powers still? Does he need to activate them to use them? We just don't know yet.

[JW_102792]

Well, the writers confirmed he lost all his previous powers from the Shanti virus, so it -was- explained, just not openly I guess. It was in an interview, not on the show, but it's from the writers nonetheless. He only kept TK because it was his first power he stole, and IA because it was his original power. Everything after that is gone (Until he cured himself of the virus, that is)

[Yoshua]

Young Hiro not mourning the death of his mother?

Peter's scar on the wrong side and not healing once he got his abilities back.

Sylar not being able to hear Claire's heartbeat before she stabbed him in the back of the head.

1- He was mourning. If you know anything about losing someone you know everyone reacts differently.

2-Future is not yet written. Nothing is on the wrong side. The past is set in stone for the current timeline, everything they live through has already happened. The future is changeable. Not to mention we don't know if he has his healing ability back yet. Claire was no where around and the only abillity he has shown thus far is flight. Nathan was right there to give it to him. He would have to come in contact with each person to get their abilities again.

3-Agreed. They always overlook his not hearing things he should be hearing. You COULD chalk it up to him not focussing that ability, but..... the person who had it originally couldn't turn it off. She had to listen to rap music 24/7 to keep it in check so he should have heard her.

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the only one i can answer is the claire one because sylar did not have that power ever since the shanti virus.

Sylar didn't lose any abilities due to Shanti. They were shut down and reactivated. If he lost any abilities he would have lost them all.

He still has them.

[Litle bit more bizarre]

This plotholes are not plotholes but about loosing of Sylar old powers I think he will regain them in future maybe he just to try practice them and than he maybe get them back

[Yoshua]

Well, the writers confirmed he lost all his previous powers from the Shanti virus, so it -was- explained, just not openly I guess. It was in an interview, not on the show, but it's from the writers nonetheless. He only kept TK because it was his first power he stole, and IA because it was his original power. Everything after that is gone (Until he cured himself of the virus, that is)

That interview was before he got his abilities back.

If he lost them he would have lost them all. When he got healed he had telekinesis. That isnt a natural ability for him. He stole it.

So day one they contradicted themselves.

[Xanderman]

^oh yeah, huge plothole. There is no doubt that this show is not always consistent (they do all sorts of absurd and convenient things, to fit the story they're telling). I've brought it up before too, Sylar should have all his abilities back. Not just some, so what the heck happened to his super hearing. Basically they just threw it out the window so that they could make him more vulnerable or whatever, to do scenes like the one earlier this year where Sylar was watching HRG talking about killing him from afar but he couldn't hear him. And so people can sneak up behind him. Because how else could someone like Claire ever get the better of him.

[JW_102792]

That interview was before he got his abilities back.

If he lost them he would have lost them all. When he got healed he had telekinesis. That isnt a natural ability for him. He stole it.

So day one they contradicted themselves.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18281 8 days after the Season 3 premiere, confirming he lost all his powers from the virus ("Nope that’s right. Sylar’s starting over. Getting a whole new slate of powers as he goes. You can count Jesse’s voice powers into the mix as well"), except TK, their reasoning being (in the next BTE; "for some reason, he was able to hang on to telekenisis. We’ll learn a little more about the effect of his first murder in chapter #8 of this volume — “Villains”" Although, we never really got a definite explanation of why he kept TK.

So, he lost everything except his original, and TK for whatever reason they were going to give us but didn't. (Or they gave it to us and no one caught it) and started over from there.

[battousai]

if sylar lost all of his powers y he still had ted and isaac´s powers in the future?
writers are saying one thing and doing other

[JW_102792]

Well, I'd say it's pretty obvious that he found a way to get them back. It's not really a mistake (I mean, it could be, but it's also easily explainable, so I don't think it's a plot hole)

[Otisburg Mayor]

How about how Ando and Daphne return from the past with Hiro. I follow how they got back in time (going faster than the speed of light).

[JW_102792]

I think thats one of the things you have to chalk up to them wanting to not waste time with an explanation. It might be a plot hole, but I think it's more they just expect you to accept what happened. They would've had to come up with a way for them to get back. I agree, it doesn't make sense running fast = back in time, then how did they get back? But it's not really bad writing, it's just not important. They got back using the same method they did to get there, it just wasn't something that made a lot of sense.