View Full Version : He has his powers! But Nathan! Spoilers
HumanoidCorvin
12-15-2008, 08:04 PM
Yes! Peter has his powers back! :D But that Nathan, he will reap what he sow!:mad:
I cannot wait for Nathan to just die and stay dead. I really haven't ever liked his selfish character.
Well...a plot hole. Peter's scar is on the wrong side. Michael Dorn (Worf) from Star Trek Next Generations is the president.
Lawliet
12-15-2008, 08:10 PM
Peter has also a way smaller scar than what he should have
Peter has also a way smaller scar than what he should have
yeah....but they writers are not going with continuity, are they? lol.
Mr.Vanish
12-15-2008, 08:18 PM
That's not the same scar.
That's not the same scar.
That's what I'm saying. lol.
Tasha
12-15-2008, 08:25 PM
I wish he got his old power back. Now there's only Sylar with all these different powers. They should have at least let Peter be the one to balance out the power shift for the "good guys" side. Although Sylar is more of a rogue person at this point, he's not on anybodys team. That's damn Nathan is an ass, somebody needs to take him out already.
They want to steer away a bit from the "rogue" Sylar. Arthur was it earlier and now it's Nathan. Who knows, Arthur is still there, we really don't know what's going to happen.
That's not the same scar.
exact - this is being discussed in another thread but the future that now exists is not the same one that Peter had the massive scar across his face. Time has changed.
However, there is still time for Peter to get that big scar since he might not have Claire's healing powers right now.
griffyn612
12-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Well there's no guarantee Peter got all of his old powers back. He either ONLY got flight; e got his empathy back, and got flight and flames from nathan and flint real quick; or he did get all his powers back.
personally, i hope he's lost all of the old powers, but still has his empathy. Maybe he can re-gain some powers, but make it harder or something. Him having every power he comes across is boring. Maybe a limit? One at a time? Something to tame him.
However, there is still time for Peter to get that big scar since he might not have Claire's healing powers right now.
Then he would have TWO scars. And let's not forgot about Ando zapping Hiro:
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haydenclaireheroes
12-15-2008, 08:39 PM
I cannot wait for Nathan to just die and stay dead. I really haven't ever liked his selfish character.
ya peter is the better one i mean did you see what he did to all his so called 'friends and family"
Then he would have TWO scars. And let's not forgot about Ando zapping Hiro:
Two scars according to you and in your opinion. To be honest, the Heroes seasons have changed the future numerous times and twice Peter has had a giant scar across his face. Who's to say that it won't come later on? Who's to say that the cut on his cheek will scar? I simply, in my opinion, will have to agree to disagree with you.
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ya peter is the better one i mean did you see what he did to all his so called 'friends and family"
Nathan has always been selfish but he is def jumping to a new level of low. Turning in fellow people with powers. He must not be thinking things through since he also has powers and he will be thrown under his own law if they find out about him.
Lawliet
12-15-2008, 08:42 PM
I do not believe Ando will be zapping Hiro because that was an alternate future and there doesn't seem to be a fight for the formula anymore
ReD-SpideR
12-15-2008, 08:47 PM
why are people saying peter should be having the same scar?
The future has changed, and so has his scar.. get over it! he cant be cable his whole life!
hehehe
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JW_102792
12-15-2008, 08:53 PM
The scar thing isn't a plot hole. It either won't scar (probably will) or the future changed and he got it in another way originally. Ando zapping Hiro, we don't know how his power might evolve? How is that a plot hole? We just found out about his power and you're already claiming that it's a plot hole in itself because we don't know how it works.
griffyn612
12-15-2008, 08:54 PM
actually, i'm not convinced Hiro's Future won't come to pass. Ando's red booster lightning is similar enough to the red lightning he threw at Hiro in that future. It might have been a different timeline than the Peter Future. Hiro doesn't have his powers back, and might try to get the formula to get his powers; Ando might try to stop him, because he's worried about who Hiro might be giving the formula to (Mohinder?)
Two scars according to you and in your opinion. To be honest, the Heroes seasons have changed the future numerous times and twice Peter has had a giant scar across his face. Who's to say that it won't come later on? Who's to say that the cut on his cheek will scar? I simply, in my opinion, will have to agree to disagree with you.
MOD EDIT The future has changed, but not all of it. Everything here and elsewhere unless it comes from the writers themselves is speculation or theories. Besides, the only way Peter can get a facial scar is if he can't heal.
JW_102792
12-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Exactly, Newb. It's up to the writers to decide what happens. If they want to say the future changed and that's his new scar, then that's what's going to happen. Doesn't make it a plot hole.
Your opinion is your opinion, but you say it's up to the writers, and yet always accuse them of bad writing, and anyone who defends them with a simple explanation is trying too hard to defend the show.
Exactly, Newb. It's up to the writers to decide what happens. If they want to say the future changed and that's his new scar, then that's what's going to happen. Doesn't make it a plot hole.
Your opinion is your opinion, but you say it's up to the writers, and yet always accuse them of bad writing, and anyone who defends them with a simple explanation is trying too hard to defend the show.
That's right...I do accuse the writers of bad writing especially if they write something that affects the continuity or logic of the show. That's a plot hole. I also understand that there are too many die hard fans or loyalists here and elsewhere that won't fess up to the bad writing or plot holes if it hit them in the face. Forums are very subjective and it's fairly easy to lose perspective and objectivity. Fortunately, most posters (so far) are mature and respectful enough not to attack others for having a different opinion from the status quo.
STFanatic
12-15-2008, 09:44 PM
But, there is a difference between not "fessing up" and not caring.
To me, I don't care, just like how Pete & Nathan can fly, without a flame shooting out their butts.
How do the other people emit flame without natural gas and a spark? How many beans do they have to eat to keep up the power?
It is Sci-Fi, that is enough explanation for me.
griffyn612
12-15-2008, 09:48 PM
i'll admit, i was upset a few times this year with the plot issues.
1) Lindervision first appeared to Nathan before Maury broke out during the Level 5 attack.
2) Sylar had Peter's empathy power, while he had no blood relation and didn't take it.
3) Lots of things were left unexplained, like what powers Sylar did and didn't have.
But these are things that you notice when you over-analyze like me. To the regular viewer, it was a decent plot that continued moving. Folks like my dad lost interest because the uniqueness from Season 1 was gone. We'll have to see what people think, and that's only determined by viewer ratings.
But, there is a difference between not "fessing up" and not caring.
To me, I don't care, just like how Pete & Nathan can fly, without a flame shooting out their butts.
How do the other people emit flame without natural gas and a spark? How many beans do they have to eat to keep up the power?
It is Sci-Fi, that is enough explanation for me.
Excellent point. People have to realize that, but some will rationalize, justify, or dismiss every little nuance or criticism that's mentioned. It's easy to get caught up in that discussion.
STFanatic
12-15-2008, 09:57 PM
Ya know, it would have been funny to see Pete & Nathan fly like that :p
JW_102792
12-15-2008, 10:06 PM
That's right...I do accuse the writers of bad writing especially if they write something that affects the continuity or logic of the show. That's a plot hole. I also understand that there are too many die hard fans or loyalists here and elsewhere that won't fess up to the bad writing or plot holes if it hit them in the face. Forums are very subjective and it's fairly easy to lose perspective and objectivity. Fortunately, most posters (so far) are mature and respectful enough not to attack others for having a different opinion from the status quo.
I've already said to you in a few previous threads, I'm fine with admitting the show has plot holes. It has a lot of them, but the past two weeks I've given you an explanation to your "plot holes" and you still can't accept it. I'm not attacking you, I respect your opinion, you can think what you want to think, I just don't get why despite my explanations, you still call things plot holes, and think I'm out to defend the show attack people who say mean things about it.
I don't want this to turn into a flame war of "I'm right, you're wrong", I just want to try and help you realize that just because it isn't explained doesn't make it a plot hole. The show has plot holes, yes, I've admitted it a lot. Season 3 was very blah, had it's mistakes, tons of plot holes, but most of the ones you've said aren't plot holes at all, they just require some thinking. Again, I'm really not trying to attack you, it just bugs me that even with explanations you still call things plot holes, and think I'm blindly defending the show, which I'm not. I'm not a die-hard fan, I'm not a fan boy, I just think it's a pretty good show, and like to think about what might happen / how powers work, etc, and provide explanations to people when I can.
but that doesn't change the fact that almost everything you've called a plot hole, isn't.
Ok. If they're not plot holes, what are they then? You don't need to provide me specifics. I am just curious on what you think they are then.
Karafan1
12-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Will Hiro get the chance to tell Nathan what he saw when he was 5 years in the future when all the people with powers were arrested??
Will Hiro get the chance to tell Nathan what he saw when he was 5 years in the future when all the people with powers were arrested??
Keep watching the show. You'll have the answer. ;)
JW_102792
12-15-2008, 10:17 PM
Ok. If they're not plot holes, what are they then? You don't need to provide me specifics. I am just curious on what you think they are then.
Well to me, they're just unexplained things. In your thread this week about plot holes, for example. I've already replied there, but I'll say it here too. You say Peter's scar being on the wrong side is a plot hole. For all we know, it heals. For all we know, they decided to change where it is and use the "the future changed" excuse.
Yes, that's somewhat of a specific, but I'm trying to get my point across :-/
Karafan1
12-15-2008, 10:42 PM
Keep watching the show. You'll have the answer. ;)
Yes, I know but I was wondering if other people on this thread had an opinion on that;)
jazzylg
12-15-2008, 11:09 PM
:D
Blades
12-16-2008, 01:20 AM
Well there's no guarantee Peter got all of his old powers back. He either ONLY got flight; e got his empathy back, and got flight and flames from nathan and flint real quick; or he did get all his powers back.
personally, i hope he's lost all of the old powers, but still has his empathy. Maybe he can re-gain some powers, but make it harder or something. Him having every power he comes across is boring. Maybe a limit? One at a time? Something to tame him.
UGH. No! Besides, how the hell would the readers explain that? I think the problem with this season is that the writers listened to other people's ideas too much. "Peter is too powerful." blah blah blah. The thing that tames him is his empathy.. saving others.. even when he should just off them for the greater good. Pretty evident in this ep.
As to being able to fly without ass-flames.. How about the huge drop in barometric pressure, or the fact that you can't breathe up there? If you flew too high or dropped too low too fast, you'd suffer baro trauma.. Similar to an empty plastic bottle sealed off (cap closed) at the peak of a very high mountain.. when it reaches sea level it collapses.. The air inside (lower pressure) is crushed by the air outside (greater pressure).
So.. theres a lot that hasn't really been accounted for.. But, honestly.. do you really want a drawn out explaination on Nathan's ability and so on?
About peters abilities: Its hard to tell if he got his abilities back, that cut may have healed but the blood was still there.. Add to the fact that he flew threw fire and came out unscathed.. makes you wonder.
HumanoidCorvin
12-16-2008, 04:09 AM
He has his empathy ability back, he absorbed Nathan's power first, he needs more.
hellnback
12-16-2008, 04:26 AM
why is everyone so obsessed with peter's scar? it might never come to pass. and if it does who's to say it'll be the same way. things can be altered just slightly even scars.
there was a story i read many many years ago where the main hero of the story ended up going into the future and discovered that his brother had lost his right arm to his enemy in a fight. when he came back to the present he warned his brother about this but no matter what his brother still ended up in the fight but instead of losing his arm he ended up losing his right leg.
so things can change, slightly, but scars are nothing compared to losing a body part.
one of the 12
12-17-2008, 08:44 AM
About peters abilities: Its hard to tell if he got his abilities back, that cut may have healed but the blood was still there.. Add to the fact that he flew threw fire and came out unscathed.. makes you wonder.
What? Why is it so hard? He should have only gotten his ability (absorbing other's abilities) back when he took the serum. All the other abilities he had were taken and then lost. Nathan was in the room when Peter got his power back, so he absorbed Nathan's power and can now fly. Flint was in the room as well so Peter can now most likely control fire and as Flint said, he can not be harmed by fire. Peter most likely will also have Mohinder's power of strength/agility. What I actually wonder is if some of you are watching the same show that I am...:rotfl:
Red Arrow Kuczynski
12-17-2008, 04:51 PM
MOD EDIT The future has changed, but not all of it. Everything here and elsewhere unless it comes from the writers themselves is speculation or theories. Besides, the only way Peter can get a facial scar is if he can't heal. Agreed. As Yoda would say, "Always in motion, the future is." Every little thing that the heroes do affects and changes any vision of the future that they might see.
I never liked Nathan, he haven't been a good character. So if he die, I would have been glad.
have you guys ever watched the movie the butterfly effect? the main charater trys to something diffrent lke when he put the tnt in the mail box and he blow his arms off and when he woke up he did not have any arms lol so everytime he wanted to makes things right he made it worse so then he just told the girl he liked i hate you i never want to see yopu agian.
STFanatic
12-22-2008, 11:29 AM
I really liked The Butterfly Effect, but the second one was pretty weak even though Erica Durance was in it.
Georgeo8
12-23-2008, 03:53 PM
I never liked Nathan, he haven't been a good character. So if he die, I would have been glad.
I agree with you Anu.I wait when he finally die.:p:D
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But Im happy that Peter had power again so I hope that is finally time for Peter action(really action:rolleyes:).
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