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fuchsiaRose
11-28-2008, 02:35 PM
Lana Lang came back to Bride and a lot of people want her to get back together with Clark. However, it has been made evident in the past that Clark does not make Lana happy. Not only that, but Clark and Lana really don't know each other. Let's face it, Clark fell in love with a pretty face. He was "in love" with Lana Lang before he even met her or could get within five feet of her!

As much as some people may want Clana, Lana Lang herself does NOT want this. This is most evident by the fact that last season, Lana Lang fooled herself into believing that Bizarro was Clark.

A lot of people have been saying that the reason why Lana slept with Bizarro was because she simply could not tell the difference. Well this is NOT what the writers of Smallville are saying. Instead the writers are saying that Bizarro came along and presented himself as "the Clark she always wanted, and in a way, his attentiveness and support blinded her to the fact that it wasn't Clark." She was blinded by the 'dream' of what she wanted Clark to be. She allowed herself to fall back on the fantasy and did not pay attention to obvious signs that Clark was gone and that this person sharing her bed was an imposter.

In the end, "Lana was getting a lot of things from Bizarro that were missing in her relationship with Clark, so it was easier to fool her." Lana Lang was easily fooled into believing that Bizarro was Clark. Lana Lang ignored the obvious signs that Chloe Sullivan did not and made a choice to believe the lie, to believe that Bizarro was Clark Kent.


So my question is, how can people still want Lana Lang to come back after Bride and be with Clark Kent? The man does not make her happy. He does not give her what she wants or needs. And this is a point made so evident by Smallville that they had an actual PHANTOM (you know, a grotesque monster from the P-zone) actually come in and serve as a better companion for Lana! I mean that is a big red light, don't ya think! When a phantom can make your girlfriend happier than you can!



The entire excerpt is below:

Companion: It was Chloe not Lana who was the first character to notice Clark's bizarre behavior.

Holly Henderson: Chloe's the coolest. She has a real insight into Clark Kent; unlike Lana, who has been hurt so much the last couple of seasons that she was easily manipulated. Lana was getting a lot of things from Bizarro that were missing in her relationship with Clark, so it was easier to fool her; whereas Chloe has the distance, which made it easier for her to recognize the difference.

Don Whitehead: Bizarro, in a way, was giving Lana the Clark she always wanted. In an earlier episode Clark learned about the Isis foundation and told Lana, "We all make mistakes." Now Bizarro comes along and is the Clark she always wanted, and in a way, his attentiveness and support blinded her to the fact that it wasn't Clark.

Source: Ginny fan "Clark Kent and Lana Lang are not meant to be together" thread.

Kid Collins
11-28-2008, 03:19 PM
Yeah, Clark and Lana fought hard after the Bizarro incident. But they did make up and from what I remember the episodes following the incident, Clana were very happy with each other. Of course that didn't last because Brainiac got a hold of Lana and then the writers strike happened. And then Kristin went off to do Streetfighter, etc.

What really matters is that the writers hated to see any couple happy for long periods of time. Especially the lead couple which was Clana. But just because there was a lot of angst doesn't mean that I don't want to see them together.

All I know is that when Clana are happy, like in Calling, First half of Exodus, Arrival, Mortal, Hidden, etc...their chemistry is magical. That's what I remember and what I root for everytime Clana get together.

And no matter how miserable Clark and Lana can be with each other, I still prefer them to any other coupling in SV.

Nothing will change my mind about that.

Just like I know nothing will change your preference for Clois in this show.

fuchsiaRose
11-28-2008, 06:45 PM
The difference is that Lana Lang doesn't want to be in a relationship with Clark Kent. Plus she recently said, "Clark Kent and Lana Lang were not meant to be together."

Alaska Young
11-28-2008, 08:47 PM
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davidbrenton
11-29-2008, 08:58 AM
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We're the ones who have.

Iluvgreen
11-29-2008, 10:03 AM
Hey i agree. Plus its not like its a thread stating how much we hate lana. It's a thread wondering why the fans of Lana don't want her to be happy.

fuchsiaRose
11-29-2008, 03:33 PM
We're the ones who have.
:lol: Exactly!

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Hey i agree. Plus its not like its a thread stating how much we hate lana. It's a thread wondering why the fans of Lana don't want her to be happy.
This thread isn't about hating it's about a legitimate question I have. And just because it's been asked before doesn't mean it doesn't have any relevance, especially now when Lana is back on Smallville.

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The only thing that makes this thread seem like it's purpose is bashing Lana is the topic of bizarro. But guess what, that's not invented by me! That's what happened on Smallville. Lana slept with Bizarro (and as Katy Perry would say) and she liked it! And my question is why keep rooting for clana to happen in these next 4 episodes when Lana Lang (50% of clana) is so unhappy with Clark that she prefers a friggin' phantom over him!

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luthorian
11-29-2008, 04:26 PM
It is true that Lana Lang was the one who grew up and realised she is never going to get from Clark what she wants most from a relationship (security). Then she also woke up to the fact that Clark is destined to far greater and more important things than playing a happy couple at Smallville.

Clark on the other hand...Wasn't it him after the whole Bizarro thing who "didn't know how things would end between them, but still didn't want to give up"?

So a Clana fan might think that Lana makes Clark happy and that's why root for them.
At least it seems from Clark's perspective that he has been the most happiest with Lana.

pizzahead2490
11-29-2008, 04:39 PM
i agree with you fuchisiarose complety.
i have been wodering that my self for a while and you voiced it out for me.

Clana4Life
11-29-2008, 06:09 PM
Did Lana ever say that Clark does not make her happy? Actually Lana said that she knew from the first time she met him that no one would ever make her as happy as him. So since the character herself said that he makes her happy, I'm going to believe her until she says otherwise.

MAN-of-STEEL
11-29-2008, 06:37 PM
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Uh? Move on? If I remember correctly Lana stepped all over Clark, never said good bye and it was she that left, he didn't leave. So then Clark began to move on to better and more beautiful things, Lois to be specific. So Lana comes along and what? More DRAMA.
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thepende
11-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Pete will make Lana happy :)

Atomic girl
11-29-2008, 11:47 PM
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boingo
11-29-2008, 11:55 PM
Pete will make Lana happy :)
If you are basing it on current comic continuity...no he won't lol
Lana and Pete are divorced...she settled with Pete. She is happily moving on with her life helping Supergirl.


Lana Lang came back to Bride and a lot of people want her to get back together with Clark. However, it has been made evident in the past that Clark does not make Lana happy....

I disagree. Clark and Lana make each other very happy. Unfortunately, circumstances or in this case the writers lol, keep them apart.

amalie
11-29-2008, 11:58 PM
So a Clana fan might think that Lana makes Clark happy and that's why root for them.
At least it seems from Clark's perspective that he has been the most happiest with Lana.

Really? I've said this on other threads aswell but do you really think Clark was happy with Lana? The only time I ever really saw them completely happy was at the beginning of season 5, that kind of Clana I actually liked. Both characters seemed completely at ease, in love and happy. However, that was Clark without the powers, an incomplete Clark. As soon as he's restored to his true self it all falls apart and they look anything but happy together.

I think perhaps Lana Lang and a human Clark Kent would have had a chance at a happy and long lasting relationship but Lana Lang and the Kryptonian Clark Kent don't.

fuchsiaRose
11-30-2008, 12:48 AM
I disagree. Clark and Lana make each other very happy. Unfortunately, circumstances or in this case the writers lol, keep them apart.
Sleeping with Lex and Bizarro does not make Clark happy.

Sunny8
11-30-2008, 03:00 PM
At least it seems from Clark's perspective that he has been the most happiest with Lana.

Even though it hasn't been consistent, he has only ever really been with Lana over the years. He really does not know anything else. Alicia and Kyla were very short relationships that ended in both of their deaths. But I guess he was happy with them when he was with them.

Kid Collins
11-30-2008, 03:16 PM
Sleeping with Lex and Bizarro does not make Clark happy.

Yeah, Clark wasn't happy but it sure didn't stop him from trying to stop Lana from marrying Lex and wanting to propose to her in Promise and telling Lana he didn't want things to be over in Siren.

Every couple can have very rough patches in their relationship but that doesn't mean that in between those moments, there can't be very happy times between them.

pizzahead2490
11-30-2008, 03:16 PM
Sleeping with Lex and Bizarro does not make Clark happy.

agreed

Cogito17
11-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Sleeping with Lex and Bizarro does not make Clark happy.

This is taking a very bottomline approach to what happened. Its akin to saying Lois slept with a Luthor, or Clark caused the death of his father, or Chloe betrayed Clark to advance her career.

All of these things are somewhat true (including what you say about Lana) when you boil it down to the bare bones of the matter. But if you take this approach, you are being ignorant of A LOT of the story of the show and its an unfair portrayal of the characters.

Now, I don't believe any of those statements about any of the characters to be as simplistic as I have written them. But I am sure that many who criticize Lana would jump to defend those aforementioned characters in exactly the same way that people are defending Lana (if they took this same bottomline apporach to the characters).

Just some food for thought. I don't expect to change yours or anyone else's minds because most people are pretty entrenched in their dislike of Lana. These threads generally turn out less like debates and more like some people "attacking" characters while others are relegated to "defending" them. To me, it seems to end up causing a more polarizing effect than either side coming to a greater understanding of the other side's position.

Alaska Young
11-30-2008, 06:52 PM
Sleeping with Lex and Bizarro does not make Clark happy.

True but how many times has Clark hurt Lana? Kissing Chloe in Rush didn't make Lana happy even if he was on red k but she didn't know that, dating her and being with her at the end of season 2 just to abandon her all summer in season 3 didn't make her happy either, dating Alicia again in season 4 and then marrying her didn't make Lana happy, constantly lying to her and pushing her away didn't make her happy either...

Lex made her happy at first. He was honest with her and true to her until his true colors decided to come through and he did the whole fake baby thing and then slapped her in Phantom just for defending Clark. And Lana was jaded with Bizarro. Sure she could've seen that it wasn't Clark but she wanted him to be like that for so long that she just stepped into this fantasy land and enjoyed his company. No I didn't like the whole Bizarro thing but it was refreshing for me to see a Clark look alike pay attention to Lana and not be afraid to touch her or say things to her.

Lana is a human being and it has definitely showed throughout this show. You can't be mad at her or hate her for making mistakes like humans make:p

boingo
11-30-2008, 08:04 PM
This is taking a very bottomline approach to what happened. Its akin to saying Lois slept with a Luthor, or Clark caused the death of his father, or Chloe betrayed Clark to advance her career.

All of these things are somewhat true (including what you say about Lana) when you boil it down to the bare bones of the matter. But if you take this approach, you are being ignorant of A LOT of the story of the show and its an unfair portrayal of the characters.

Now, I don't believe any of those statements about any of the characters to be as simplistic as I have written them. But I am sure that many who criticize Lana would jump to defend those aforementioned characters in exactly the same way that people are defending Lana (if they took this same bottomline apporach to the characters).

Just some food for thought. I don't expect to change yours or anyone else's minds because most people are pretty entrenched in their dislike of Lana. These threads generally turn out less like debates and more like some people "attacking" characters while others are relegated to "defending" them. To me, it seems to end up causing a more polarizing effect than either side coming to a greater understanding of the other side's position.

I agree.

Xanusus
11-30-2008, 09:19 PM
Lana and Clark were just not meant to be together. They can't be honest with one another. Relationships are built on TRUST. Either it's Clark lying about his secret or Lana lying about her relationships/associations/actions.

Why do some people wish to see 2 people together who can't even tell the truth to one another? Seriously?

Look, what Lana and Clark had was puppy love. Now that they are adults infatuation just won't do anymore. They need trust and it's just never there for them.

Clark still has some of that high school infatuation left over but I can tell you that it's about to go away for good when Clark realizes yet again that Lana is hiding something from him.

That's the entire point of her coming back onto the show. Clark needs to finally see that they really weren't meant for one another and that's there's no trust. When Clark realizes this he will be ready for a MATURE relationship with someone he can trust and someone who can trust him in return.

Eurynome
12-01-2008, 11:17 AM
I've always thought that Clark was just in love with the idea of Lana. That he didn't really know her at all and dismissed anything that contradicted his image of her. I think the writers hinted at this fairly early in "Accelerate" (Season 2, Episode 20) when Chloe tells Clark that what he sees is a facade, that Lana is actually profoundly lonely and cries herself to sleep in the middle of the night. This only got worse in Season 7 after "Wrath" when Lana starts doing things that Clark never would, and she calls him on it.

As for Lana, I agree that Clark never made her very happy. She tells Clark in "Void" (Season 5, Episode 17) that she always felt alone, even when they were a couple. I think if you truly are happy and in love with someone, you never feel alone. I think that once Lana realized that Clark doesn't make her happy (after the whole Bizarro incident), she was able to walk away. Plus I always felt like she should be a little angry about getting her brain scrambled by Brainiac just for being important to Clark.

I agree that Tom Welling and Kristen Kreuk have great on-screen chemistry, that it is magical when they're together. That said, just because they're not a couple doesn't mean the chemistry goes away. I enjoyed the Clana scenes in "Bride" even if they aren't a couple.

Bizarrolover
12-01-2008, 12:43 PM
As for Lana, I agree that Clark never made her very happy. She tells Clark in "Void" (Season 5, Episode 17) that she always felt alone, even when they were a couple. I think if you truly are happy and in love with someone, you never feel alone. I think that once Lana realized that Clark doesn't make her happy (after the whole Bizarro incident), she was able to walk away. Plus I always felt like she should be a little angry about getting her brain scrambled by Brainiac just for being important to Clark.

Lana wanted to walk away from Clark in Siren and he asked her to stay. To me, the Clana during season 7 was weird, because, though I am not a Clana fan, I was expecting to see them happy like they were at the beginning of season 5, even if it was for a while. There weren't any romantic scenes between them (except for Wrath, and that didn't last long), they weren't affectionate with each other and Lana didn't look happy about living with Clark for the first time. At the time I thought it was the actors' fault, that they weren't happy with the direction the show was taking, but maybe that was exactly what they were trying to convey, that Clark and Lane weren't meant to be together.

I think Lana didn't have the strength to stay in the relationship when there were problems. The bizarro incident was the first time Clark got truly angry at her. Usually it was the other way around. When Clark made a mistake or concealed things from her, Lana would become mad a thim and storm out of the scene. When roles were reversed, she didn't know how to handle it. Instead of trying to talk to him (Clark is the kind of person that always tries to talk before making a harsh decision) she packed and tried to move out.

Living with Clark isn't easy, Lana was faced with many really strange situations and while she handled them rather well (martian manhunter, Kara) I'm not sure she was truly comfortable with the complexity of Clark's life.

supes0
12-01-2008, 12:56 PM
Its akin to saying Lois slept with a Luthor


was it ever established Lois slept with Grant or is this speculation? I know she was dating him, but didn't realize it was ever established that they were intimate. But then I wasn't paying a lot of attention the past couple seasons.

SVsleuth
12-01-2008, 04:13 PM
I've been a Clark & Lana fan from the start because of what Tom & Kristin brought to the screen. I just HAD to pull for them.

Along the way, I've seen the writers show that Clark has been in love with an unrealistic image of Lana, a Lana he's created in his imagination, rather than with the person she really is. However, whenever Clark was allowed to see other sides of Lana, like in Accelerate, and Wrath, he showed that he was willing to stand by her, no matter what. As he realizes that the real Lana is not the picture of perfection that he had imagined, he continues to choose to love her in spite of her faults. At that point, accepting someone in spite of their imperfections demonstrates real love for the real person. Clark cares deeply about Lana. He's willing to look past her faults, and help her to become a better person.

Lana, for her part, has been in love with Clark Kent, the farmboy, who always seems to be there when she NEEDS him. Once she learned who he really is, however, Lana chose immediately to support Clark and try to protect him. She once told him he's the one, good, constant thing in her life. She needs him. But, now that she knows who he is, she wants him to become the best person he can be. She wants to see him use all of who he is, all his strengths, all his gifts, to help others. She knows that the best way to love him is to encourage him to be all he was meant to be. That is the very definition of love: desiring what is best for the other over your own needs. That's why Lana chose Clark over Bizarro when it came down to the end. She realized she had been trying to live a fantasy, and that if Clark ever really made the choices that Bizarro made, that he would be denying the core of who he is - a person who has an innate need to be out there, helping people & saving people. So Lana lets go of her fantasy & chooses the real Clark - chooses to help him become all he was meant to be. I love her for that. She's set aside her delusions and now loves the real Clark Kent in the way he needs to be loved. She's setting aside her own desires and needs in favor of supporting him in becoming all he was meant to be.

So, after we've watched all these years of ups and downs for Clark & Lana,they are finally taking off the blinders, and seeing each other for who they really are, and choosing to do what is best for each other, even if that means giving up something they want for themselves. They're just SO CLOSE to finally being able to move their relationship to a really mature level. They finally are getting to know the real Lana & the real Clark, instead of a facade. And they have both made choices to love. (And I guess it's important for me to emphasize that, to me, love's not a feeling, it's a decision and a choice - to love someone in spite of their faults & help them become a better person.) Clark & Lana are almost there. They just need to start trusting each other. That's why I do NOT want to see more lies at this point. It's time for them to be open, honest, & trusting of each other. And that could lead to a deep friendship, where they both truly do have love for each other that is no longer a romantic one - or it could lead to both a deep friendship and a romantic love based on loving the real person the other is instead of a fantasy.

So, why Clana? Because they've been through all of this, and the writers have shown it all to us...why? Was there a point to showing us this whole story? Shouldn't it at least get them to the point of being confidants, like in the comics? I just want to know what was the point of telling this story at all.

TW & KK made me believe that Clark & Lana love each other deeply, so deeply that no matter what is thrown at them, they keep coming back to each other. He grounds her, she grounds him. And I just can't see them not eventually coming back to each other again, and finally making it work. Thus, we have a story of two lovers able to overcome any and all obstacles, because their bond is that deep, & their love for each other is something that can never die.

Iluvgreen
12-01-2008, 04:50 PM
Clark is appier this season than he has been this whole show long. And Lana was happier with Bizzaro until she killed him. And Lex... until he faked her pregnacy. ouch. But she hasn't been happy with Clark. So I guess she's just happiest single.

fuchsiaRose
12-02-2008, 11:38 PM
was it ever established Lois slept with Grant or is this speculation? I know she was dating him, but didn't realize it was ever established that they were intimate. But then I wasn't paying a lot of attention the past couple seasons.

No it was never established that Lois slept with Grant but it's the only thing that some people have to throw at Lois. :rolleyes:

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Clark is appier this season than he has been this whole show long. And Lana was happier with Bizzaro until she killed him. And Lex... until he faked her pregnacy. ouch. But she hasn't been happy with Clark. So I guess she's just happiest single.
Bottom line: Clark is happiest with Lois...and Lana with bizarro or really, who the hell cares! :lol: Little Ms. Nasty needs to be single for a while and stop relying on the male sex for every little thing!

heromyth
12-03-2008, 01:04 AM
If you are basing it on current comic continuity...no he won't lol
Lana and Pete are divorced...she settled with Pete. She is happily moving on with her life helping Supergirl.



I disagree. Clark and Lana make each other very happy. Unfortunately, circumstances or in this case the writers lol, keep them apart.

Clark and Lana make each other happy? What show have you been watching for the last seven seasons? Clark and Lana have had scant moments of reprieve from an otherwise angst-filled, emotional El Niño. Lana, hate to say it, has been the “Small-village bicycle”, her self-deluded tryst with Clark’s evil doppelganger was just the capper. Clark’s attraction to her would be fatal were it not for his nigh invulnerability but Smallville uses it as a symbol, an archetype representing his unwavering devotion to all the Earth’s inhabitants, the lion’s share of whom aren’t all that lovable or even redeemable. Lana’s double-mindedness, her duplicity, her cunningness, her treachery and her vulnerability are echoes of a larger human saga where the best and worst of human qualities are intertwined in a messy pastiche much like Clark and Lana’s on-again, off-again, clumsily conjoined dance. Clark will one day gain complete mastery over the Earth’s gravitational pull but until then all it takes is one look from Lana to make him stumble, if only figuratively, while on the path toward full-time super-heroism. In the year’s ahead, Clark’s intergalactic enemies will repeatedly try to come between him and the planet he protects and Clark’s commitment to defending Earth, despite her manifold foibles, will remain iron, well, steel (red and blue leotard) clad. In this way Lana was Smallville’s stand-in, its’ understudy, to humanity’s eventual starring role as Clark’s true love interest, a fact revealing Lana’s unpredictable, self-defeating and unsavory behavior as a microcosm of Earth’s collective inhabitants whose actions should disqualify them for redemption but don't, at least not in Clark's eyes. Clark’s patience has been superhumanly long when it comes to Lana because he’ll eventually cut the entire planet’s citizens a galaxy’s worth of slack; Clark’s been a long suffering “ubermensch” and once Lana’s completely out of the picture, he’ll focus his attention squarely on his new “ball and chain”. Clark’s enemies will try to exploit his affection for humanity as a weakness, a la his series-long fixation with Lana, unquestionably his primary obstacle (and ironically his greatest catalyst) to becoming the man of steel. Lana has served as both the object of his affection and his undoing, equal parts Earth and Krypton-ite, a tug-of-war illustrating his dual identities and affections, one firmly planted in the soil, the other rocketing heavenward. The Scully, Mulder sexual tension between Clark and Lois this season comes a little prematurely. Lois won’t simply fill Lana’s old shoes, she’ll give Clark what he needs, i.e. not just another damsel in distress or a reason to take his eye off the ball, err, globe. So, Clark and Lana were met to be together, they just weren’t meant to last.

RawKrypton
12-03-2008, 07:43 AM
FACT is that Tom has better chemistry with Kristin, they look better on the screen so more Clana .. though they had the most crappy storylines ever, the chemistry between them makes it worthwhile to watch more Clana...this whining about Clana is hilarious, it just shows that the Clois shippers are frightened and insecure now that Lana has returned for 5 episodes :rotfl:

Clois4eva89
12-03-2008, 11:07 AM
In my views the Clana should've ended after episode Phoenix in Season 3. Clark broke up with lana,then he broke up with her again half way through Season 5.The fans shouldn't have been subjected to the constant break up,and get back together. Because we all know Clark doesn't end up with lana,Chloe would've been a better girlfriend for Clark earlier in the show.

jmf1977
12-03-2008, 02:41 PM
Looking back at the beginning, I do think Clark and Lana made each other happy. What really drove the nail into the coffin was the writers deciding that showing a happy and in love couple was not dramatic enough. So we had to endure secrets and lies and a whole lot of other crappy story lines.

I think I would have had Clark tell Lana earlier about his secret and then put them together and see how it would affect the relationship and to eventually show why these 2 do not work out. Only now are we getting a mature Clark and Lana who still clearly care and love each other.

I really don't see how you could put Clark and Chloe in a romantic relationship at any stage of the series. As it stands, I think the Chlark friendship has been one of the most stable relationships of this series. To me putting these two romantically together serves no purpose. What possible reason could TPTB give for their romantic relationship to end? And add to the fact that Clark later gets together with Lois, Chloe's cousin. That does not look too good.

Clois4eva89
12-03-2008, 04:15 PM
I really don't see how you could put Clark and Chloe in a romantic relationship at any stage of the series. As it stands, I think the Chlark friendship has been one of the most stable relationships of this series. To me putting these two romantically together serves no purpose. What possible reason could TPTB give for their romantic relationship to end? And add to the fact that Clark later gets together with Lois, Chloe's cousin. That does not look too good.

In my views Starting in Season 2 I would've had Clark and Chloe become a serious couple.Have Clark tell Chloe his secret at the start of Season 3,then around Season 6 Chloe would end up dying to protect Clark's secret. Then years later Clark would meet Lois and fall for her not knowing she was Chloe's cousin.

jmf1977
12-03-2008, 05:28 PM
In my views Starting in Season 2 I would've had Clark and Chloe become a serious couple.Have Clark tell Chloe his secret at the start of Season 3,then around Season 6 Chloe would end up dying to protect Clark's secret. Then years later Clark would meet Lois and fall for her not knowing she was Chloe's cousin.

That would have been an interesting scenario. Not sure how the fans would have reacted since the Chloe character has been so popular. While I am not a fan of romantic Chlark, I do enjoy their amazing friendship.

dreamsofnever
12-04-2008, 01:00 PM
I think it's interesting that Bizarro is supposed to be the opposite of Clark, and that he was able to give Lana all the things she wanted in a relationship. I think this was done deliberately, to show us that Clark is just unable to give Lana what she needs out of a relationship.

I am not the hugest Lana fan, but I think that it's unfortunate that Clana was not given a great chance in the earlier seasons. It seems like there was always something keeping them apart. Sometimes it was a genuine reason, but sometimes it was really contrived and that sucks.

That said, I think Clark has always been in love with the idea of Lana and I think Lana has spent the majority of the seasons trying to define herself and sometimes losing herself in relationships. I think because Lana lost so many people that she cares for when she was very young, she has wanted that sense of stability and feels that finding a relationship is going to fill that void.

We have seen Lana go from activity/interest: from cheerleader, horse enthusiast, avid reader, to small business owner, to studying art, to going to college for a semester, to wife, and finally to her obsession with bringing down Lex and then coming full circle and turning the Isis foundation into what it was meant for.

Some of this is inconsistency in writing, but I think Lana has been searching for herself throughout the series. I think she genuinely does care for Clark, but I don't think he can be there for her in the way she needs.

I think it's telling that Lana seemed a lot happier and laughed and smiled a lot in her relationship with Jason then I have seen her do in her time with Clark. Save for the very beginning of Season 5, her relationship with Clark has always had some levity. At first it was the fact that she had a boyfriend and yet had an attraction to Clark, so there was the 'we really shouldn't...' vibe. Then there was Whitney's death hanging over her, and while that brought her and Clark closer in a way, it wasn't the kind of carefree happy closeness that she deserves and needs. Then it was Chloe's feelings for Clark and their mutual friendship with Chloe hanging over them, and also her fears of the secrets Clark was keeping. And so on and so forth. (just a note-I'm not saying Jason was the perfect guy for Lana, given how his storyline turned out. but the way she was with him vs. the way she is with Clark is telling)

The point is, there is always something hanging over their heads. And now there is a whole history of this heaviness, and it's hard to just move forward and have a healthy, happy relationship.

That's not to say that relationships should be carefree entirely. But when you are truly in a solid relationship, being around the person you love makes you feel lighter and there are times when you will be just carefree. I know my husband and I have had some pretty heavy life stuff, but I just feel like this weight is lifted off my shoulders when he's around.

Ultimately, I think the point of the original poster was not to bash Lana and not to bash Clana, but to bring up their desire to see both Lana and Clark in happy, healthy relationships.

For me personally, I think Lana deserves someone who loves her for who she is, flaws and all. I think Clark is still in love with the idea of Lana, and she deserves more than this.

But ultimately, shipping is in the eye of the beholder. I have definitely been one to cheer for a TV couple when they've gone through all sorts of strife, so I can understand wanting to see the couple that was set up in the beginning have a happy ending.

Even though I'm not a Clana shipper, I want to see each character have a happy ending too. I just see their happiest endings involving them finding closure and moving on. But to each their own.

Bizarrolover
12-04-2008, 03:21 PM
I think it's interesting that Bizarro is supposed to be the opposite of Clark, and that he was able to give Lana all the things she wanted in a relationship. I think this was done deliberately, to show us that Clark is just unable to give Lana what she needs out of a relationship.



I think the reason why Lana was happier with Bizarro and Jason is because they both made her the center of their world. Lana pays her boyfriends a lot of attention (she cooks romantic dinners with candles, etc) and expects the same back. She wants them to report everything they do, she wants them around her all the time (it's not a coincidence that her two happiest relationships were with two guys she lived with and were completely devoted to her) and neither Whitney, Clark nor Lex could give her that. They all had something more important to focus on, either it was football, saving the world or destroying it. To me, she comes out as a little needy and it takes a special man to be with her.

I also think that what some people think is inconsistent writing, to me is a pattern. Lana practically changed her personality with every guy she dated. Her goals changed every year, and that's typical of someone who doesn't know what she wants. She went from young entrepeneur to art student, astronomer, spy, counselor, and God knows what she's after now. I think she is still searching for her identity, and I hope she finds it soon because I'm not sure I want to see her change her mind once again.

dreamsofnever
12-05-2008, 12:51 PM
I think the reason why Lana was happier with Bizarro and Jason is because they both made her the center of their world. Lana pays her boyfriends a lot of attention (she cooks romantic dinners with candles, etc) and expects the same back. She wants them to report everything they do, she wants them around her all the time (it's not a coincidence that her two happiest relationships were with two guys she lived with and were completely devoted to her) and neither Whitney, Clark nor Lex could give her that. They all had something more important to focus on, either it was football, saving the world or destroying it. To me, she comes out as a little needy and it takes a special man to be with her.

I also think that what some people think is inconsistent writing, to me is a pattern. Lana practically changed her personality with every guy she dated. Her goals changed every year, and that's typical of someone who doesn't know what she wants. She went from young entrepeneur to art student, astronomer, spy, counselor, and God knows what she's after now. I think she is still searching for her identity, and I hope she finds it soon because I'm not sure I want to see her change her mind once again.


Exactly! I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to be the center of someone's world, though yes she does come off as a little needy. But as you said, Lana gives that to the guys she dates so there is nothing wrong with her wanting it back. I think that she will hopefully find this, but I think this need is exactly why Clark is not the one for her ultimately.

And I think you're also right about it being a pattern. Yes, the show is about Clark's journey, but it is also about the journeys of the supporting characters. And yes, I would like to see Lana just settle on a path and BE HAPPY. I don't think we'll see who she might eventually end up with because I think it's important for her to show signs of independence and a sense of self in her send-off. Once she gets that and is secure in that, then she will find the love of her life.

You have a lot of great points Bizarrolover :)

actaeon
12-27-2008, 11:30 AM
Smallville uses it as a symbol, an archetype representing his unwavering devotion to all the Earth’s inhabitants, the lion’s share of whom aren’t all that lovable or even redeemable. Lana’s double-mindedness, her duplicity, her cunningness, her treachery and her vulnerability are echoes of a larger human saga where the best and worst of human qualities are intertwined in a messy pastiche much like Clark and Lana’s on-again, off-again, clumsily conjoined dance.

heromyth, this is the best explanation of the Clark/Lana story that I have ever encountered. Thanks!

Personally, I don't think Clark makes Lana happy, and neither does Lana make Clark happy. Their teen angst bit was fun for a while, but it lasted far too long. The sadness and recriminations just made them both look bad IMO, and I longed for it to just come to an end. Young love should not be all about sorrow.