View Full Version : Clark and oliver could save chloe!
shamville
11-21-2008, 04:24 AM
I so mad clark and oliver not trying save chloe from dd. I wish clark could use super hearing track down dd and oliver use his arrow shoot at dd for try save her. The last scence could be they find out dd at fos and show down in fos between oliver, clark and dd.
tonnmiister
11-21-2008, 04:49 AM
oliver's arrow would do little or no damage to Doomsday
Poyntz
11-21-2008, 05:45 AM
Oliver wasn't in his green arrow gear when all that happened.
And i think clark was trying to save her when he got thrown to the loft and exposed to K.
biggkoz
11-21-2008, 10:13 AM
Ok so some weird creature comes in and destroys the place and kidnaps chloe and they dont even bother to walk outside and see which direction they went? Clark just stands there like an idiot as usual. I mean isnt that the natural instinct to do is to look for someone instead of just waiting it out?
AndiGirl
11-21-2008, 10:23 AM
I know!!! I thought that too.
There was a good 10 seconds where Lana and Clark are just staring at eachother, and even when Ollie says "its too late that thing took Chloe" I expected Clark to atleast try and run after it. He doesnt know if the thing is fast or slow...he could have made a slight effort. :\
SnowBird
11-21-2008, 10:27 AM
Ollie is the one who came and told Clark that DD had kidnapped Chloe. I think if there was any chance of catching up to them, Ollie would have followed them or told Clark which way they went so he could run after MM & Chloe. If DD can get to the Arctic he must be able to move pretty fast and was gone within a few seconds.
Wildfire
11-21-2008, 10:32 AM
This yet another one of Clark Kent's Deet Da Dee(I hope spelled it right if not reference Carlos Mencia) moments! I mean your friends and loved one are being shredded and you just stand there wow.
Paging Jor-El we need a lesson in hero 101.
myankskent
11-21-2008, 10:35 AM
To be fair to Clark, let's say that he does catch up to Doomsday. What is he supposed to do in that situation? Doomsday is much stronger than him and he has Chloe in his arms. Do you think that she is going to be able to survive a superpowered fight while Doomsday has her? Do you think that Doomsday is going to just hand Chloe over to Clark if he asks nicely? Clark's best option is to track Doomsday and develop some kind of plan to take him down. Clearly, Doomsday is not out to kill Chloe or else he would've killed her in the barn rather than walking out of there with her.
Wildfire
11-21-2008, 10:41 AM
Granted we know he cannot fight with brute force. But at that moment he didn't. Later that episode just before he was hit with the krypto he did but at the beginning just standing there was a bad laps in judgment. He could have distracted him or at lease gone to her aid. BDA did not move much till Lana was sent flying.
I guess I am saying after 8 years he'd quicker on his feet to help.
loislanechick
11-21-2008, 10:48 AM
I really hate the moment when he jumps and screams "Lana!" while the whole place is falling apart..I mean, come on! Then the thing with green kriptonite, how convinient..I think the whole scene was weird..His best friend was taken away and I expected clark to do something supermanly..and what does he do? Checking if lana is ok..That's just wrong.
Bizarrolover
11-21-2008, 10:48 AM
Clark was knocked off by the kryptonite Chloe left out of his drawer (interesting coincidence, isn't it? Doomy throws Clark to the exact place where she conveniently puts his only weakness) so, this time we can't blame him for not coming to Chloe's rescue, she's partly responsible for his incapacity to save her.
Yeah, they even went as far as setting up the green K with Chloe not remembering it damages Clark and leaving it out in the open.
biggkoz
11-21-2008, 10:49 AM
Yeah when he yelled lana it was like a time warp back to every other season. Lana get scraped up is nothing when some alien creature is taking your best friend away.
C Redfield
11-21-2008, 10:50 AM
I really hate the moment when he jumps and screams "Lana!" while the whole place is falling apart..I mean, come on! Then the thing with green kriptonite, how convinient..I think the whole scene was weird..His best friend was taken away and I expected clark to do something supermanly..and what does he do? Checking if lana is ok..That's just wrong.
You just made me realize the BDA back 9 episodes of work gone :mad:
Bizzaro513
11-21-2008, 10:53 AM
My question is, when they find him, what the hell will go down? Will we get our Justice League back? :p Will the showdown be in the Fortress, and if so, what tricks does Brainiac have?
loislanechick
11-21-2008, 10:58 AM
You just made me realize the BDA back 9 episodes of work gone :mad:
:rotfl: sorry, but that's how I feel..clark could have been much better, but of course he jumped to see if lana was okay..
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Yeah when he yelled lana it was like a time warp back to every other season. Lana get scraped up is nothing when some alien creature is taking your best friend away.
Exactly..it reminded me of all those times when clark was running after her..I will say it again : that's just wrong.
lm1212
11-21-2008, 11:02 AM
This yet another one of Clark Kent's Deet Da Dee(I hope spelled it right if not reference Carlos Mencia) moments!
:) Yes he was so out of it. Lost in thought with Lois and Lana around I guess...
SnowBird
11-21-2008, 11:04 AM
What is wrong with running to Lana when he saw her getting hurt. If he didn't then people would say he didn't have concern for her and he was thoughtless. After he quickly checked on her he went on to do what he could even putting his own life in danger fighting a monster. Lois was safe on the house porch out of danger. Chloe wasn't hurt but Clark wasn't able to save her since he was out of commission. Clark can't please everyone no matter what he does.
Clark was probably thinking of how not to expose his secret, and when things hit the fan and people really got hurt, I guess he decided he'd just fight in front of them.
loislanechick
11-21-2008, 11:09 AM
What is wrong with running to Lana when he saw her getting hurt. If he didn't then people would say he didn't have concern for her and he was thoughtless. After he quickly checked on her he went on to do what he could even putting his own life in danger fighting a monster. Lois was safe on the house porch out of danger. Chloe wasn't hurt but Clark wasn't able to save her since he was out of commission. Clark can't please everyone no matter what he does.
I know he can't please everyone and clark will always be my hero..but he went to fight doomsday only after lana told him to go..It's ok that he checked on her, that's just clark..but I kind of expected him to react differently..
Bizarrolover
11-21-2008, 11:11 AM
What is wrong with running to Lana when he saw her getting hurt. If he didn't then people would say he didn't have concern for her and he was thoughtless. After he quickly checked on her he went on to do what he could even putting his own life in danger fighting a monster. Lois was safe on the house porch out of danger. Chloe wasn't hurt but Clark wasn't able to save her since he was out of commission. Clark can't please everyone no matter what he does.
I agree with you. Clark was thrown away at the firt blow he threw at Doomy and was knocked by the kryptonite Chloe conveniently left out of the drawer. I know everyone likes to blame him when Chloe doesn't come first on his 'to save' list, but this time they are being a bit unfair.
Mars Investigations
11-21-2008, 11:25 AM
There are many possible explanations. The most likely is that Doomsday used his superspeed (which I'm assuming he has; correct me if I'm wrong) to get away to the Arctic. By the time Clark used his X-ray vision to scan the area, he was gone.
TWNik
11-21-2008, 11:27 AM
Ok so some weird creature comes in and destroys the place and kidnaps chloe and they dont even bother to walk outside and see which direction they went? Clark just stands there like an idiot as usual. I mean isnt that the natural instinct to do is to look for someone instead of just waiting it out?
Clark looks ridiculous in this episode. He stands around "waiting on Oliver & his radar" to find Chloe & is at the hospital standing around, so EDLO can whine. JUST UGH!
He's being ruined by Clois pimping.:\
davidbrenton
11-21-2008, 11:28 AM
Chloe is indirectly responsible for his inability to save her since she left the kryptonite out. However, since Clark is responsible for the reason she didn't know to keep it hidden, Clark is ultimately the most indirectly responsible party.
Weird.
superpal1
11-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Doomsday does not have superspeed nor any of Clarks other abilities, except being super strong. I don't think things have changed that much from the comics. That is what I don't understand. All Clark had to do once Lana snatched the rock was to superspeed out. Even if for some reason Doomsday got far, all Clark has to do is keep superspeeding to find her. I mean, come on, Chloe was just kidnapped. He should have a least tried. I also do not agree with the the whole" Doomsday is much stronger than him" reason. For one Clark does not know this to be true. He has been tossed before and still gotten up and gone back for more.
One-Winged-Angel
11-21-2008, 11:46 AM
well, not quite standing there, more like dying from kryptonite.
jtavarez2010
11-21-2008, 12:22 PM
I think Lana needs to die...honestly shes getting on my last nerves. Shes the reason Clark didnt go after Chloe.
Timester
11-21-2008, 12:25 PM
I think Lana needs to die...honestly shes getting on my last nerves. Shes the reason Clark didnt go after Chloe.
So, the kryptonite stone standing right next to him as just for the fun of it?
jtavarez2010
11-21-2008, 12:36 PM
Afterwords...the kryptonite i can understand, but after Lana placed it back in the lead box. He could have supersped out of there and looked for her. Also he could have looked for her instead of sitting at the hospital with Lana
luthorian
11-21-2008, 12:39 PM
Clark is a F*ing idiot. He's so called best friend is kidnapped or who knows what and all he does is stares at Lana! :mad:
Poyntz
11-21-2008, 12:39 PM
I dont think it was lana that made him not go after chloe. He just seemed confused as to what to do next.(and i'm not a lana fan but i will not blame her for that) he did stand there like a BDA. He should of at least gone outside to see if he track him down. He has powers that ollie didn't and might of been able to catch up.
TWNik
11-21-2008, 01:20 PM
Clark is a F*ing idiot. He's so called best friend is kidnapped or who knows what and all he does is stares at Lana! :mad:
I don't think Lana was the problem, I couldn't believe he was still just standing around at the hospital.
Clark is responsible for what happened to Chloe in part, for letting Brainiac totally play him.
luthorian
11-21-2008, 01:24 PM
^^ well yeah and then staring at Lois :rolleyes:
TWNik
11-21-2008, 01:26 PM
^^ well yeah and then staring at Lois :rolleyes:
Miss Looks like she was going to hump his Tux? Disgusting, & makes Clark look like an idiot. :mad:
AndiGirl
11-21-2008, 01:41 PM
So, the kryptonite stone standing right next to him as just for the fun of it?
I was personally refering to after the kryptonite was put away. The way he just kind of stood there and looked at Lana. Then GA tells him this thing has taken Chloe.
I understand there wouldnt have been a whole lot he could have done about it, but I expected him to take off out of the loft or something.
But then the other part of me realizes there were a lot of hurt people in the barn he needed to help as well.
So...yep....no decisive answers from me. I was upset but I can understand it also.
Griffin
11-21-2008, 01:48 PM
Quick note for the non comic readers. In the comics Doomsday is slightly faster than Superman (in their first battle back in 1992, Superman was weaker back then, then he is today), also Superman and Doomsday are evenly matched strengthwise. The same can be said for invincibility too. My point is according the 1992 Death of Superman storyline, Doomsday was (at that time) Superman's equal (except speed). If you read the Death of Superman storyline the then Justice League comments that Doomsday is faster than the Flash. So I would assume this version of Doomsday is also Clark's equal, with the exception of being faster.
So Doomsday should not be stronger than Clark.
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Yeah Clark standing around annoyed me. I would immediately speed off looking for her and eventually would have ended up at the fortress to ask for help.
Clarkfalls4Chloe
11-21-2008, 02:06 PM
it's like when Clark left Chloe at the dance to go and save Lana. His brain is like mush around Lana, which is kinda cute in a way.
kryptonhero25
11-21-2008, 02:53 PM
Doomsday would rip Oliver to pieces
Clana4Life
11-21-2008, 04:09 PM
it's like when Clark left Chloe at the dance to go and save Lana. His brain is like mush around Lana, which is kinda cute in a way.
Yeah, sort of sweet. Like sweet vanilla.
Vindellavon
11-21-2008, 04:11 PM
Bottom Line: Clark got played. He fell for it. He's still too engrossed in his personal life to help others, and if for once he thought of Chloe as an innocent, she wouldn't have ended up in Doomy's arms. Which actually, I didn't mind. :)
rogueslayer1985
11-21-2008, 04:13 PM
i know, i mistakenly waited for some panic or devastation to over take him but he was all, some man killer just took her but we have time for a heart to heart and some coffee. what a moron. this show just drags the name clark kent in to the mud
Deana
11-21-2008, 04:16 PM
Oh yeah, Clark run after the big dude that just used you as a kryptonian pinball. He might actually kill you the next time he plays pinball with you being weaker after coming into contact with that meteor rock.
I think defeating Doomsday will be a job for the Justice League, including the Martian and they still might not all defeat him.
rogueslayer1985
11-21-2008, 04:27 PM
why the hell is clark portrayed as a moron? superman my ass. he didnt bother looking for chloe after she got kinapped by a killer. anyone else find this unusual or just plain stupid?
This is soo un-superman. he was all chloe is gone? meh lets have a drink and think about something else for a while.
Clark automatically reverted back to type once Lana returned. I don't understand why the cloisers aren't up in arms. When Chloe was in love with Clark and he had his Lana blinders on everyone told the chlarkers to give up and move on- but now because clois is "iconic" everything seems to be fine, even though Clark is behaving with Lois how he used to with Chloe.
SuperJedi
11-22-2008, 02:48 AM
Yeah, some of the writing is still bad!
I am never a huge fan of the Smallville writing, I think they Rush the good stuff too quick, and drag the bad stuff too long! I guess Most of the Lana hating comes down to writers dragging her and Clark back and forth way too long... 20 Episodes!
Then, you get a cool Villian like Doomsday/Brainiac/Zod/Bizarro, etc it ONLY get 1-2 episodes! :(
Yeah, some of the writing is still bad!
I am never a huge fan of the Smallville writing, I think they Rush the good stuff too quick, and drag the bad stuff too long! I guess Most of the Lana hating comes down to writers dragging her and Clark back and forth way too long... 20 Episodes!
Then, you get a cool Villian like Doomsday/Brainiac/Zod/Bizarro, etc it ONLY get 1-2 episodes! :(
I agree- I could have really liked the Lana character had she not been written so bad.
morena
11-22-2008, 03:53 AM
What is wrong with running to Lana when he saw her getting hurt. If he didn't then people would say he didn't have concern for her and he was thoughtless. After he quickly checked on her he went on to do what he could even putting his own life in danger fighting a monster. Lois was safe on the house porch out of danger. Chloe wasn't hurt but Clark wasn't able to save her since he was out of commission. Clark can't please everyone no matter what he does.
but that is why many are angry, would love to say Clark is over Lana, because of Lois, but obviously he is not
it's like when Clark left Chloe at the dance to go and save Lana. His brain is like mush around Lana, which is kinda cute in a way.
Clarkfalls4Chloe I love your icon- is it a manip or does it come from a picture? If it came from a picture would you mind posting a link for me :D
it's like when Clark left Chloe at the dance to go and save Lana. His brain is like mush around Lana, which is kinda cute in a way.
Not really! Chloe is kidnapped by an alian, homocidal monster, Jimmy is seriously injured and Lois in some serious need of conforting, and all Clark does is just stands there! Now not cute in any way!:(:o:
SuperJedi
11-22-2008, 06:46 AM
Here we go Blame Lana again. :rolleyes: It doesn't have ANY thing to do with Lana, GOD!
It's NOT Lana's fault. It's the Writers that CAN'T write sensefully!
Everything you HATE about Lana... the writers.
This crap... the Writers.
Smallville writers ALWAYS do this, even in episodes there was NO Lana!!! **** DON'T make sense!!!
The Bottomline is, This show's writers just bad/LAZY!!! They have to write BETTER.
Kid Collins
11-22-2008, 07:37 AM
Give Clark a break. He probably needed to step back and think of a strategy on how to rescue Chloe. Don't worry you know he'll step up and go after his BFF.
Miss Looks like she was going to hump his Tux? Disgusting, & makes Clark look like an idiot. :mad:
That was strange. Keep Lois away from Clark's shoes! :lol:
SuperJedi
11-22-2008, 08:41 AM
Give Lana a break too! ;)
Seriousy, I guess that's what the writers were coming from. Maybe he realizes Doomsday is TOO powerful, and couldn't challenge DD alone, or yet!
Did anyone read the Spoiler page though?
I hope their Fight is NOT easy or quick! The writers ALWAYS make the good stuff go too quick, so I don't know...
Bizzaro513
11-24-2008, 02:01 PM
What if he had a Phantom Zone arrow? What then? :D
krpto
11-24-2008, 02:10 PM
What if he had a Phantom Zone arrow? What then? :D
Dear god I hope ollie doesn't have one of those it would be one of the lamest things to happen on smallville to give a human the technology to control the pz it would be almost as lame as kryptonite gum and kryptonite noz.
SnowBird
11-24-2008, 02:16 PM
As much as we would all like to see Chloe safe, there is a reason for her capture and we will witness this in the next episode. The characters do what the writers want them to so this is what we get.
Bizzaro513
11-24-2008, 02:57 PM
Dear god I hope ollie doesn't have one of those it would be one of the lamest things to happen on smallville to give a human the technology to control the pz it would be almost as lame as kryptonite gum and kryptonite noz.
Glad to see your enthusiasm. :p
celita
11-24-2008, 03:01 PM
Doomsday would rip Oliver to pieces
After bringing Lana back... he kinda deserves it don't you think?
oliver's arrow would do little or no damage to Doomsday
:rotfl::rotfl:I am rolling on the floor from laughter just thinking about it! Those arrows would break like a twig! Unless they have kryptonite in them, but that's still unlikely, since Davis/Doomsday obviously isn't affected by the earths som or the kryptonite the same way as Clark is! Anyway, rolling on the floor from laughter!
yaseen101
11-24-2008, 03:10 PM
Dear god I hope ollie doesn't have one of those it would be one of the lamest things to happen on smallville to give a human the technology to control the pz it would be almost as lame as kryptonite gum and kryptonite noz.
Oh come on won't it be so cool, an arrow tipped with a crystal that sends people to the Phantom Zone. Technically, Green Arrow's partner Speedy has that Arrow so it won't be totally lame (in the comics anyway).:D Or would you rather Ollie shoot a boxing glove arrow at him, now that would be hilarious, imagine Ollie shooting a boxing glove arrow at Doomsday all cool and all, and when it hits Doomsday it squeaks like a toy and fall.
krpto
11-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Oh come on won't it be so cool, an arrow tipped with a crystal that sends people to the Phantom Zone. Technically, Green Arrow's partner Speedy has that Arrow so it won't be totally lame (in the comics anyway).:D Or would you rather Ollie shoot a boxing glove arrow at him, now that would be hilarious, imagine Ollie shooting a boxing glove arrow at Doomsday all cool and all, and when it hits Doomsday it squeaks like a toy and fall.
Only if clark gives ollie the crystal and we see ollie put it in an arrow I don't want ollie to magicly have a pz arrow with no explanation he shouldn't have not much technology even with cyborg and his pilot who seems to have so kind of technopathy at his disposal.
Sweetie
11-24-2008, 04:21 PM
DD would have crush GA like sand,His arrows wouldn't even scratched the monster.Look,what he has done to CK when he tried to punch him...he bounced and was thrown all the way in his loft where green K was(how convient you'll say)but,it was necessary because if Clark tried to stop him again DD would have hurt or kill more people in the process.
Iluvgreen
11-24-2008, 04:30 PM
Oliver got there and he was gone. Clark couldn't do anything... for the moment anyways. let's wait fo the show down next time. There just are so many minutes in a hour.
Just Another Guy
11-24-2008, 04:57 PM
Thanks to Clark erasing Chloe's memories of him, she was too ignorant to leave the kryptonite in its place. I hope the PS3 are setting all this up with good intentions.
BULLITT
11-24-2008, 05:31 PM
I've got to say it....again. Clark is not bright.
Hmmmm..get Ollie to use his resources to look for the creature, yet not go to the Fortress that has technology thousands of years more advanced, to search for an organic entity with physical strength equal to, or greater than that of a Kryptonian?
Yeah...go with the antiquated technology.:rolleyes:
yaseen101
11-24-2008, 06:14 PM
I've got to say it....again. Clark is not bright.
Hmmmm..get Ollie to use his resources to look for the creature, yet not go to the Fortress that has technology thousands of years more advanced, to search for an organic entity with physical strength equal to, or greater than that of a Kryptonian?
Yeah...go with the antiquated technology.:rolleyes:
That would be like taking things for granted, if Oliver had the resources to search for Doomsday then they should use it, if not then he could use the Fortress. Even though the Fortress is advanced, it is not designed to help Clark fight crime or anything, it is just there to help him train.
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