Why Did Chloe Smile at Doomsday?/Chloeiac: Still Alive?

[REebee52]

What just happened? That ending confused me... I Guess that was Lex, but why was Chloe smiling...?

That whole episode fell flat for me. We get Clark throwing one punch, Doomsday is in love, has emotions, and can talk... Lana is acting shady... The ending was anticlimactic... ahhhh.. such promise...

[wooosmallville]

How would doomsday know to bring her to the fortress?! That was so weird!:confused:

[jimmyolsenblues]

i think brainiac has his fingers in doomsday is my guess

[myankskent]

That was Brainiac's doing. My guess is that he sent Doomsday a signal, since he has control of the fortress at this point.

[dru-zod2501]

hehe lol...

for quite a while now, we've been under the assumption that Chloe's infection would continue through Legion. Now, from Abyss it looked like all of Brainy was out of her, but maybe it wasn't completely (and if even the fortress can't get rid of it, really what can, save death?)

[Mr. T]

Agreed.....However, ALL of Braniac was indeed out of Chloe. But when Doomsday brought her back to the Fortress (which Braniac is now in control of) Braniac transferred himself back into Chloe, which than led to the smile. Braniac is now back in Chloe's body.

[biggkoz]

Chloe is a secret double agen set to destroy krypton. Well she might be now cuz it looks like she is brainac-ted again.

[roccanater]

Brainiac defenatly has re-infected her.

[KEakaCK]

Also, judging by Chloe's reaction to doomsday at the fortress, looks like brainiac has regained control of Chloe. If thats the case, then Brainiac is communicating with doomsdays. So, that leads me to think thats how doomsday knew to go to the fortress.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, its Brainiac.

[wooosmallville]

That means all of Brainiac wasn't out of Chloe. And she looked unconscious when he was carrying her. I hope its revealed when Legion airs!

[jimmyolsenblues]

but why was Chloe smiling...?

that is the best question of the night...i have no idea.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yah, it has to do with Brainiac. Afterall, he turned the Fortress of Solitude into the Fortress of Doom last week.

It was really cool to see him walking around in there.

[jackhammerslam]

That means all of Brainiac wasn't out of Chloe. And she looked unconscious when he was carrying her. I hope its revealed when Legion airs!

No, since Braniac has taken control of the fortress, when Doomsday put her down, then Braniac went back inside of her.

[smallvillefreak24]

so brainiac reinfected her? and what the heck the bony lex thing was watching WTF explanation por favor

[dru-zod2501]

Agreed.....However, ALL of Braniac was indeed out of Chloe. But when Doomsday brought her back to the Fortress (which Braniac is now in control of) Braniac transferred himself back into Chloe, which than led to the smile. Braniac is now back in Chloe's body.
if that was the case then we would've seen it transferring back into her; we did not. so I assume it was always in her

[wooosmallville]

No because Chloiac had to have told Doomsday en route! He couldn't have known before that so it had to have happened while he kidnapped her.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I wonder if Doomsday is in "Legion."

[wooosmallville]

I also believe it was in her the whole time. That is the only way Doomsday knew to bring her to the Fortress.
My question is how did Lex get that video? And who has him hooked up to that machine? It has to be someone from the wedding that knew about it. I suspect Lana has a hand in this.

[Mr. T]

if that was the case then we would've seen it transferring back into her; we did not. so I assume it was always in her

Not necessarily, remember on the last episode; Jor-el took Braniac out of Chloe. It showed the black goo coming out of Chloe and than going into the Fortress which infected Jor-el with Braniac. Now that Braniac took control of the Fortress, a simple touch is all it had to take to transfer himself back into Chloe. Doomsday laid her down, Braniac took over.

Besides, if there had been a little bit of Braniac still left in Chloe as you said before, we would have seen signs of that; but we didn't.

[AndiGirl]

I dont know, I had the impression that Dooms carrying Chloe out was all apart of Brainiacs plan...which is why she/he smiled. I'm not sure if Brainiac just re-entered her when she was back in the fortress...or if he's been there all along. But it seemed obvious from Chloe's smile it's exactly what Brainiac was expecting. :\

[pizzahead2490]

what is the point of lex watching the wedding??? and why is he so skinny??? and why was chole smiling???

[Clark is the Man]

I think just how Clark knows how to go to the fortress. thats how doomsday knows where to go because now it is controlled by the house of el.

[Rub-in]

here is one question

How did he get to the fortress, i doubt he walked the entire way, the only way i think of getting there has to be cave, but how would he activate the portal.

sorry to bring this up lol

[jackhammerslam]

No because Chloiac had to have told Doomsday en route! He couldn't have known before that so it had to have happened while he kidnapped her.

Say what? Can you explain that so it make a little more sense?

[Liquid-Prince]

here is one question

How did he get to the fortress, i doubt he walked the entire way, the only way i think of getting there has to be cave, but how would he activate the portal.

sorry to bring this up lol

Doomsday can jump hella far. Couple hundred miles per jump.

[I_am_LEX]

he can superspeed like clark can. the only thing he cant do is fly. brainiac signaled doomsday... that much is obvious. and when chloe woke up and her eyes opened, it was obvious that brainiac has Chloe too. So what is brainiac's plan this time?? thats what im wondering about and cant wait to find out... i have a feeling that it might be his best one yet. hope im not disappointed.

[jqedward]

Guys episode 8.11 "Legion" will deal with the consequences of what happened between Chloe and Brainiac at the end of Season 7. The Legion of SuperHeroes will come from the future to prevent Brainiac from controling the Fortress and Chloe. I believe it was in one of the spoilers for the episode.

[NaYa]

That was the best scene from the episode! Chloe's smile was peaceful though...not evil looking like I would expect if Brainiac would be inside her. I think Brainiac has infected her again but I just don't know

[Dosvse]

Let's see DoomDoc walked to the North Pole? I'm impressed.

[Buddy91]

it was more of a omg i cant beleive its you i love you smile

[jazzylg]

clark needs to come clean with his secret to everyone, including lois and jimmy, and when everyone is safe and chloe's back to normal, call the men in black to mindzap them all!:lol:

[galatians221]

OK, she's gone over to the dark side and they can control her. So I suppose that they'll let her go and make it easy for them to find her and she can then do what? And, of course the only way to save her will be for CK to save Jor El so that he can save Chloe once again. Will she use the Isis foundation to bring about evil? I think it's possible that she will get her meteor freaks to form an anti-justice league and yet it seems like CK has enough on his hands with DD to be having to deal with all of this other stuff. This one is hard to figure.

[BatAngel5]

The ending for the ep is up on youtube. Idk if it's Lex or not. Hard to tell.

[jragbir]

She looked so beautiful at the end. Her eyes were breathtaking there, as always.

[Kevin24]

I thought she looked better when she was showing off her legs. I mean damn I didn't know she had legs like that!!!

[jragbir]

Id have to agree with you there also. haha

[unex||den||adel]

u guys underestimate her. i always knew she could be this good since season 1.

[alienkinfolk]

She looked scary. And with that grin...looks like she's going to go on a honeymoon after all

[faz]

To answer the Doomsday questions, I don't think Doomsday is in love and has emotions, I think it's simply a lingering part of Davis that isn't fully suppressed yet. Eventually that will go away (at least I hope). Another explanation could be that there was some part of Brainiac still inside Chloe and Doomsday felt a connection to that, much as he was drawn to Metropolis because he sensed a shared origin between himself and Superman in the comics (if I'm wrong on that one, feel free to correct, since it's been a while since I've read the Doomsday arcs). As for his speech, it was pretty similar to the way he tried to say "Metropolis" in the Death of Superman arc. He can't actually speak coherently, but he can mimic sounds enough to get his point across, albeit after a few attempts.

[xrayvision]

After seeing Chloe laugh when Doomsday brought her to the Fortress of Doom (my nickname for the corrupted Fortress of Solitude), something tells me that there is still some Brainiac within Chloe. Doomsday was obviously compelled by something to take Chloe. In the comics he was able to sense the presence of Kryptonians. Maybe in Smallville he can sense the presence of Brainiac.

What do you think? Is there still some Brainiac within Chloe? Did something else go wrong when Jor-El rebuilt her memory? Please vote.

[ginnyfan]

Someone on another thread pointed out that Jor-el never said he could remove Brainiac. He only said he could undo the Kryptonian code that was blocking Chloe's memories.

*sigh*

:(

Brainiac is still inside Chloe.

[Vergon6]

If there was still apart of Brainiac inside her, it would have manifested before they got to the Fortress. Note that she didn't get taken over until Doomsday lay her down on the Brainiac infected Fortress. I felt that Chloe got re-infected at that point.

[ginnyfan]

If there was still apart of Brainiac inside her, it would have manifested before they got to the Fortress. Note that she didn't get taken over until Doomsday lay her down on the Brainiac infected Fortress. I felt that Chloe got re-infected at that point.

Oh no! That is a possibility...

[Vergon6]

I hope that James Marsters comes back somehow. Because I mean, Brainiac just keeps on coming back, no matter how many times you think he is dead.

[xrayvision]

Wasn't that his voice we heard at the end of Abyss?

[ginnyfan]

She looked scary. And with that grin...looks like she's going to go on a honeymoon after all

*shudders*

I was a little let down by the Doomsday/Clark stuff but. Great creepy ending.

[BriZNiZ]

i thought whatever infected chloe (brainiac) oozed out in the last episode and infected the fortress......when she was placed down onto the fortress she became infected again... why tho? is it brainiacs way of controlling doomsday?

[Karafan1]

It kinda sounded like James and it kinda didn't. He wasn't in the credits like Terrence Stamp was..

[NaYa]

If there was still apart of Brainiac inside her, it would have manifested before they got to the Fortress. Note that she didn't get taken over until Doomsday lay her down on the Brainiac infected Fortress. I felt that Chloe got re-infected at that point.

I agree. I also was thinking though, Maybe a part of Brainiac was still in her but when Doomsday brought Chloe to the Fortress of Doom (Im gonna borrow the name xrayvision if that's alright :)) Brainiac was fully reintegrated in Chloe and maybe this time he might take full control of her...can't wait!

[imaginaryhero]

I figured "her" sudden happiness was to signal that Brainiac has re-infected her. Before that point she appeared to be her normal self, minus a few memories.

[Vergon6]

I figured "her" sudden happiness was to signal that Brainiac has re-infected her. Before that point she appeared to be her normal self, minus a few memories.
I agree.

[dru-zod2501]

I think Brainy was never out of her completely, I mean why would he give up his trump card with Doomvis? Brainy knew its "Davis" side was weak for her, perfect to get it to do anything

[NaYa]

I think Brainy was never out of her completely, I mean why would he give up his trump card with Doomvis? Brainy knew its "Davis" side was weak for her, perfect to get it to do anything

agreed

[TheAmazingApe]

It kinda sounded like James and it kinda didn't. He wasn't in the credits like Terrence Stamp was..

Oh, it was him. I'd know Marsters anywhere because... drool.

But I think leaving him out of the credits was on purpose. If we saw his name, maybe the surprise wouldn't have been as cool.

[RedKRules]

Looks like Jor El Norton Antivirus didn`t work did it??? .... :lol:

[FlashInSV]

Chloiac LIVES!!!! :eek:



Looks like Jor El Norton Antivirus didn`t work did it??? .... :lol:

Yeah, looks like it! :lol:

[jimmyolsenblues]

i still am dying to know why chloe was smiling?
is she still infected from brainiac?

[jimmyolsenblues]

i think this is a very good idea...
Because Brainiac did something to her as she was brought in by Doomsday.

I did not think about that...

[miks]

I'm HOPING Brainiac was inside of her this entire time, that way the Chimmy marriage didn't actually happen! Or maybe Jimmy is dead! No, I want Chloe to break it off.

[Poyntz]

I think that brainiac was never fully out of Chloe in the first place. Just hiding within waiting to dominate again.
after all we know from past seasons that brainiac can multiply himself. that was how he was flying the plane that Lois and Martha was on a few seasons back. So why couldnt he possess the fortress AND chloe at the same time.

On top of that jor-el never said he could totally remove brainiac from chloe. he said he can fix her memories from kryptonian back to human (or something like that) She he helped her with selective memory and sent her back on her way.

Actually thinknig more about stuff. I'm starting to think that the reason Brainiac was stripping chloe of her memories was to distract her from figuring out who Doomsday was. Chloe has always been smart at figuring out puzzles. She should of picked up who doomsday was after Lois (posessed by zods wife) dropped her and said thanks for the information about her son. All she had to do was look down and see the files that she dropped and gave zods wife the info. Removing memories distracted her from figuring it out. Actually when i think of it she never even mentioned about Zod's son to clark which was odd. Clark did Brianiac a favor by having Jor-el omit the memories about him and krypton. Because doing so make brianiac not have to worry about her stumbling upon the truth. She doesnt know anything anyways and if she is suspicious about something (like the phone calls from Davis and Davis all together) she cant put 2 and 2 together anymore.

Most of this post came to me as i was typing so if some is a little off topic sorry LOL the thoughts just flow!

[Billy Jor-El]

I've tended to think Davis was never really in love with Chloe (though I can't blame him if he was), I have been leaning more to DD reacting to the attraction/need of Brainiac, and Chloe represents that. She may not have still been infected when taken to the Fortress, but everything prior may have informed/programmed Davis as to what to do, where to take her.

If Chloe/Brainiac was the one who stole the crystal from Tess and got it back to Clark, then it has all been working towards Brainiac's plan. Who better than Chloe to do it? Already a very smart person, now with Brainiac, unstoppable....

Yeah, she's under B's influence again, her eyes went to the dark black pools; the smile was creepy, not Chloe. It was Brainiac pleased to be back in his vessel and in a position to control/destroy Kal-El. What this will do to Chloe's own mind I'll have to wait until January 15th to find out....hate them spoilers :)

[Billy Jor-El]

Chloe got re-infected when brought to the Black Fortress (my name :) ). The smile, not laugh, can be interpreted as Brainiac's response to being back in his vessel, though also the flood of intense brain power coming back into Chloe, to which she favorably responded to. The seduction of power....

Meanwhile.... to some degree why would Chloe even want her memories? The Spring Dance (cool that Clark kept the flower), left her standing there alone as Clark sped off to save Lana; her own wedding reception marred by a shuddering monster kidnapping her and severely wounding her new husband....yikes, what this girl has gone through is enough worth forgetting! I'm wondering if a time reversal is the only way out....ho hum.

[topping82]

What just happened? That ending confused me... I Guess that was Lex, but why was Chloe smiling...?

That whole episode fell flat for me. We get Clark throwing one punch, Doomsday is in love, has emotions, and can talk... Lana is acting shady... The ending was anticlimactic... ahhhh.. such promise...

The episode is called Bride in my opinion not because of the Chimmy wedding but because it is referencing Bride of Frankenstein. Chloe smiles, because she's with the guy she really subconsciously wanted to be with.

The ending between them was very Beauty and the Beast. Chloe has Brainiac inside of her, but her eyes weren't black. She's not completely possessed yet. But he's definitely there perhaps taking away some of her inhibitions.

If you watch the scene carefully, pay attention to her eyes. At first she looks up at Doomsday in amazement (compare it to scenes in other films like King Kong when the girl looks at the Beast as if he's beautiful), but then her eyes shift. She looks into his eyes. It's when she sees his eyes that she smiles. I think a part of her recognized Davis and she felt free. She was happy. He helped her do what she couldn't. Move on. Run away. Who's to say Brainiac wasn't influencing her choices through out the entire episode? Hence the Brainiac flashes everywhere.

That said, I don't think it was Doomsday in love with Brainiac. :) It's definitely Davis/Doomsday in love with Chloe. He called her by name. He didn't call her Brainiac. It's Beauty and the Beast. The last shot of them was gorgeous. He even almost kisses her before he lays her on the alter. The "alter" meaning, he sees her as his bride. Hence the title of the episode. He was taking the bride for himself. This is a classic monster story. I've heard people say that they can't stand Doomsday falling in love. But there is a story in the Superman comics where Doomsday has humanity and feels emotion. He even saves Clark and the rest of the world.

Davis/Doomsday seems more like that version. Chloe smiled because she was fascinated with the beast and Chloe and Davis's souls connected. Chloe's always liked the weird and different. She's the type that would love a monster and find the humanity in him. That's who she is naturally. She would try to save Davis. Jimmy, on the other hand is ordinary. Does anyone really think she wants to end up with ordinary when she's always loved the extraordinary?

I think most of the episode (minus the Davis scenes) fell flat, that is until the end. The end was the best part. It was very reminiscent of King Kong and La Belle et La Bete. The real classic monster stories are just like what they are doing with Chloe and Davis. I wonder if many people are familiar with the classic stories such as "Frankenstein," "Dracula," "The Phantom of the Opera," etc...Although, at this point it is unclear whether or not Davis will be able to turn back into the "Prince," or if Beauty will in fact kill the Beast.

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That was the best scene from the episode! Chloe's smile was peaceful though...not evil looking like I would expect if Brainiac would be inside her. I think Brainiac has infected her again but I just don't know

She looked free! I think Brainiac is inside of her, but she didn't look evil. It's when she looks into his eyes (they shift slightly) that she smiles. I think she recognized Davis and felt free. She never did say who the man was that she wanted to marry.

It was by far the best scene from the episode! Gorgeous shot reminiscent of classic films and literature.

Chloe and Davis recognized each other's souls even though they both have monsters in them. I'd have to agree. I don't think Chloe's smile was evil. When Brainiac completely possesses her like at the end of "Identity" she looked different. Not like this.

I think Chloe like Beauty has become fascinated with the Beast! Somehow I don't think Brainiac would look at Doomsday as if he was in love with him. And, he called Chloe by name. He didn't call her Brainiac.

It's clear to me that Brainiac is in her, but at this point it's still Chloe. Brainiac might be letting Chloe's feelings for Davis grow. That might be part of his plan. Though, I'm convinced that even if Brainiac was not in Chloe, and Doomsday wasn't a part of Davis, they would still find each other. There's a real human connection between them. Sam Witwer thinks so anyway, if you listen to his interviews. He also doesn't think that Chloe and Jimmy are meant to be. I'll have to agree! :)

[Russ-L]

The episode is called Bride in my opinion not because of the Chimmy wedding but because it is referencing Bride of Frankenstein. Chloe smiles, because she's with the guy she really subconsciously wanted to be with.

The ending between them was very Beauty and the Beast. Chloe has Brainiac inside of her, but her eyes weren't black. She's not completely possessed yet. But he's definitely there perhaps taking away some of her inhibitions.

If you watch the scene carefully, pay attention to her eyes. At first she looks up at Doomsday in amazement (compare it to scenes in other films like King Kong when the girl looks at the Beast as if he's beautiful), but then her eyes shift. She looks into his eyes. It's when she sees his eyes that she smiles. I think a part of her recognized Davis and she felt free. She was happy. He helped her do what she couldn't. Move on. Run away. Who's to say Brainiac wasn't influencing her choices through out the entire episode? Hence the Brainiac flashes everywhere.

If you look closer you will see her eyes did turn Black first.

[Poyntz]

I'm wondering if at the end of all this, they will get brainiac out of chloe and she wont remember anything that happened since she found brianiac was Kara from last season. LOL. That would mean she doesnt even remember marrying Jimmy or his proposal for that matter. I never felt chloe has acted like chloe for a while now.

[davidbrenton]

It is interesting that along with her memories, her IQ took a drop. Although, I still maintain my original hypothesis that smarts/power was the only Chloeac evidence. She was in control until the fortress with Doomsday.

[topping82]

If you look closer you will see her eyes did turn Black first.

I have looked closer. In fact, I've analyzed the scene. Her eyes were reflecting Doomsday. But yes, they were a little darker. I think she was starting to be possessed by Brainiac, but not completely. She didn't look evil. Rather, she looked peaceful and fascinated by the beast.

I think she smiled for two reasons. One, because Brainiac and Doomsday had found each other. Brainiac smiles because his plan his working. And Chloe smiles, because she sees the Beauty in the Beast. She sees his humanity. I think she recognized Davis's eyes. Because it's when she looks in them that she smiles.

The episode is called "Bride" for a reason. It's referring to Bride of Frankenstein. He laid her on the alter. He called her Chloe, not Brainiac.

Basically she smiles because of 1) the Kryptonian connection and 2) because of the real human connection she has with Davis.

So, it's a bit of both. I don't think Doomsday would see Brainiac as his bride though!

Chloe isn't herself here though. A part of her is fascinated by the Beast. Because Brainiac is inside of her (I'm convinced he never actually left), she's kind of in a dream state. In her subconscious she is revealing her true feelings for Davis. If you recall, when Lois asks her about Davis, Chloe says that "all she wants to do is walk down the aisle and marry the man she loves." She doesn't actually say Jimmy's name. She skirted around the question. Why? Perhaps because she's confused, and perhaps this ending is what she subconsciously wanted. Not Jimmy hurt, but she really wanted to be with Davis. He did say she was marrying the wrong man.

She smiles because it was like she was saying, "It's you. I knew you'd come for me." It was like he was freeing her from the Smallville world. Everyone's been crapping on her for the longest time. I think Davis saved her in a way. She's in a trance kind of. But she recognized Davis even if she won't remember it later.

Chloe is not the "Bride" of Jimmy, she's the Bride of Doomsday. That's what the title was talking about. She smiled for the exact same reason Christine smiles when the Phantom takes her. She doesn't like that he's a killer, but there's this underlying sense, that they would have worked had things been different. There is also a magnetic attraction, like a moth to a flame.

You could feel the chemistry in this scene. They were definitely portraying that Doomsday/Davis loves Chloe. He's not in love with Brainiac. He's not thinking of him as his bride. The monster was taking his "bride" back to his lair and laying her on the alter symbolically.

So it was definitely Chloe smiling, even if she's not completely aware. At least in my opinion.

[redeem147]

I don't think all of Brainiac was out of Chloe, because he was hiding in her unreclaimed memories. Now that she's in the Fortress, he can take over again altogether.

[warriorrenegade]

I believe Brainiac is still using Chloe as a vessel. Doomsday will be his enforcer to keep Clark from thwarting his plans.

[topping82]

I don't think all of Brainiac was out of Chloe, because he was hiding in her unreclaimed memories. Now that she's in the Fortress, he can take over again altogether.

But he hasn't yet! There's still a sense that Chloe and Davis are connecting beyond the monsters within each of them.

I agree that Brainiac never completely left Chloe. For all we know, Brainiac has been influencing her decisions. He was probably the mastermind behind the whole wedding event. Maybe it was "Chloe" who left out the kryptonite for Clark. There were flashes of Brainiac through out the whole episode just like last week.

That said, I think Chloe is still there. She's not possessed yet. She's still partially there. I think she was in a bit of a dream state at the end. Brainiac in her smiled because his master plan is succeeding, and Chloe smiled because of her connection to Davis as well as the beauty and humanity she sees in the beast.

I think he will take her over completely in the 11th episode.

[AndiGirl]

I thought she looked better when she was showing off her legs. I mean damn I didn't know she had legs like that!!!

Me too!!! :lol:
I think she may have looked better in her robe then the wedding dress!! Jimmy definitely didnt seem to mind helping out. ;)

[Wildfire]

I think he left a small piece of himself in her so when Doomsday was ready they could connect and get to fortress to being Zod's plan. How else did Doomsday know not only about the fortress but where it was.

[topping82]

I just re-watched the episode and I'm convinced that the episode is called Bride because she's supposed to be the Bride of Doomsday not Jimmy. Chloe even mentions being the Bride of Frankenstein earlier in the episode.

When Doomsday/Davis brings her to the alter (he symbolically is marrying Chloe), she smiles up at him because she's saying yes in a way. She knew he'd come for her. I think she's part Chloe/part Brainiac at this point. And I think she was this way through out the entire episode. Not just when he put her on the alter. And it seems she smiles because the Brainiac in her is glad his plan is working, and the Chloe in her smiles because she connects to Davis who is the beauty inside of the beast. She only smiles after her eyes shift to look into his. She also is looking up at him in amazement.

But again, I think her smile is meant to be a bit of a cliffhanger.

[davidbrenton]

I think Doomsday gave Chloe her first orgasm.

[Clark-Bizarro]

what was up with that did doomsday or brainiac do something to her brain?? her eyes looked evil :eek:

[Smallvillebabe08]

I guess we will find out January 15th :(

[Super Maverick]

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[SUPERMANUSA]

I just re-watched the episode and I'm convinced that the episode is called Bride because she's supposed to be the Bride of Doomsday not Jimmy. Chloe even mentions being the Bride of Frankenstein earlier in the episode.

When Doomsday/Davis brings her to the alter (he symbolically is marrying Chloe), she smiles up at him because she's saying yes in a way. She knew he'd come for her. I think she's part Chloe/part Brainiac at this point. And I think she was this way through out the entire episode. Not just when he put her on the alter. And it seems she smiles because the Brainiac in her is glad his plan is working, and the Chloe in her smiles because she connects to Davis who is the beauty inside of the beast. She only smiles after her eyes shift to look into his. She also is looking up at him in amazement.

But again, I think her smile is meant to be a bit of a cliffhanger.

You may be right. Also, when DD first entered the barn and everyone was looking up, the look on Chloe's face is kind of a mystery. They showed it a few times in the episode. Check it out, does it look like Chloe is "really" scared, or does it look like she is delighted (knowing DD is in the building).

:D :p

[fa8362]

She smiled because she likes guys in cheap rubber suits?

[TWNik]

If you look closer you will see her eyes did turn Black first.

Which means Brainiac was still in control of Chloe, he PLAYED Clark.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I think bringing her to the fortress which Brainiac has taken over is what reactivated Chloiac.

[TWNik]

I think bringing her to the fortress which Brainiac has taken over is what reactivated Chloiac.

Brainiac never left Chloe. Jor-el told Clark he was using Chloe as a "vessel", she obviously wasn't ever free from Brainiac - Clark got played. He did exactly what Brainiac wanted by taking away her memory.

[lillie_poo_pod]

I think Brainiac was still in Chloe.

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

How would doomsday know to bring her to the fortress?! That was so weird!:confused:

considering that there was a whole episode expaining how doomsday is the son of Zod it makes perfect sense that he would go to the fortress that has been taken over by brainiac.

and i think that she smiled at him because she could see davis bloom inside of doomsday. that was atleast my impression. i don't think any of the poll answers had anything to do with it. i believe that brainiac is out of her. he is in the fortress now. Jor-El made sure of that.

[haydenclaireheroes]

were do you think chloe was in the end with doomsday and why do you think her eyes were all golgoly!

[lanalang1018]

All I have to say, is "Chloe's" smile was so creepy!:eek:

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, I noticed her eyes looked weird.

[mistaguitarmasta]

That was in the FoS, and yes her eyes were CREEPY

[lanalang1018]

That was in the FoS, and yes her eyes were CREEPY
definitely!!!!!

[haydenclaireheroes]

That was in the FoS, and yes her eyes were CREEPY

that is what i thought i think he might give her memory back or giver her a power!

[Mars Investigations]

I think Brainiac re-infected her. Which, hopefully, will lead to the restoration of her memories.

[Krypton935]

That was so weird when Chloe smiled! I'm thinking that Brainiac definitely did something (yeah I know-DUH!)

[haydenclaireheroes]

I think Brainiac re-infected her. Which, hopefully, will lead to the restoration of her memories.

good theory and also i hope so!

[RedKRules]

I think Brainiac was still in Chloe.

That is what I think, Jor el´s norton antivirus failed so bad .... Brainiac never left Chloe´s mind .....

[Vindellavon]

I think Jo-Rel might've screwed up fixing her memories and believe that's how Brainiac's going to get away with it. As for the smile, I really do think that's the true "I Do" and the real wedding was symbolically of Chloiac and Doomsday. The black FOS was the altar, Doomsday was the heroic villian of the story who carried her to the altar, and her waking up and smiling being the "I Do." I don't think the bride ever accounted for hcloe to go to Jimmy, but Doomy instead.

[Clana4Life]

I wish they'd just let Chloe and Davis get together. I hope Chloe helps Davis defeat the darkness within them. I'd love to see them leave Smallville together.

[umm]

Which means Brainiac was still in control of Chloe, he PLAYED Clark.


Oh yeah, Brainiac is still in control, and when Chloe finaly gains control, she won't be happy to find her memories whiped, an interupted and trashed weddingreception, not to mention an 'unholy' honeymoon!:(

[Jeta]

Brainiac manipulates Chloe in order to guide Doomsday and he destroys the FOS and kills Kal-El. Chloe's mind is still manipulated and controled by Brainiac (Jor-El didn't heal Chloe), and Chloe aka "Brainiac inside" smiles because finally have made contact with a mature and grown-up Doomsday.

[unfocused]

I think Chloe smiled because it was BrainIAC taking control of her. Obviously, BrainIAC wasn't inside of her after Jor-El "healed her." Because that's when Chloe became herself again, without the memories. But I think that because Doomsday took Chloe to the Fortress of Doom, BrainIAC was able to take control of her completely. And that's why she/BrainIAC smiled.

[jayyjayy]

Can't take credit for this but someone mentioned that it was actually Faora in Chloe at the end. It would explain the loving/smiling look she gives DD, her son blossoming into the monster she intended.

And if im a writer, would i rid Chloe of Brainiac just for one episode? Hmmmm. I wish they'd just leave the possession stuff in the past along with red kryptonite type devices and the phrase "I was just trying to protect you" But on the whole, i like how the season stays continuous with its storyline.

[All about Clark]

If Chloe's memories were changed to krytonian code (calling doomsday) and Clark had Jor-el not reversing a 100% (making Chloe not remember Clark's abilities and such) of those memories, then kryptonian code would still be in Chloe even if Braniac had drained out of her. He didn't drain out until Clark gave his intention to Jor-el. Braniac was playing everyone, he knew the kryptonian code would continue to call doomsday even if he left, so he took over the fortress and waited for doomsday's arrival and entered Chloe as soon as she laid on the fortress. It was Braniac smiling at his accomplishment.

[TheAmazingApe]

I think Chloe smiled because it was BrainIAC taking control of her. Obviously, BrainIAC wasn't inside of her after Jor-El "healed her." Because that's when Chloe became herself again, without the memories. But I think that because Doomsday took Chloe to the Fortress of Doom, BrainIAC was able to take control of her completely. And that's why she/BrainIAC smiled.

I don't know. Jor-El only translated the memories back. Now that I think of it, there was no full-on healing intent. No reason for Brainiac to slip out her ear. He wasn't forced out, just memories translated and altered. Looking back, I think Brainiac slithered out of her of his own free will (and left a bit behind, still dormant in her).

And I think Clark played into his hands by removing his secret and all things kryptonian. It would be advantageous to Brainiac, if his plan is to use Chloe and Davis to carry on Zod's line. A Chloe who doesn't know what Zod, the PZ, Brainiac, or Krypton is is more helpful to him than a Chloe who does. She has no reason to fear any of it. She would be way easier to manipulate than a Chloe who knew what kind of types she was mixing with.

[williwompa]

I'm willing to bet when they reshow that scene of her smiling, Doomsday himself is not actually what she saw when she woke up. He's prolly back in his human form and that's why she smiled. I can't beleive anyone would would wanna awaken to a giant horned demon thing standing over them. So don't read into yet that she is happy to be there with him yet. BUT that being said i do think that eventually they will be together, cause why else wipe her memory of Clark's secret. Can't be having her teliing him all the inside things about Clark like his weakness and such.

[Fallen One]

Not to restate the obvious but when she opens her eyes, her eyes become gray/dark. Then she smiles. Brainiac smiled at his plan working. Successfully he had used Chloe for months as a vessel to contact the beast within Davis by having the man fall in love with the woman. Now the most unstoppable being in the galaxy is at his beck and call. Thats what made him so happy.

I know some are desperate for anything that proves it wasn't really Chloe that married Jimmy (afterall Jimmy is the liar, scheming, no good one of the two) but it was really Chloe who married Jimmy. "Brainiac" would not need to be carried to the FOS, he could have just flew there.

Jor-El did not "fail" in doing what he set out to do. Jor-El does not fail in anything he does. If he says he'll do something, he'll do it. Period.. Jor-El doesn't do anything half ass, nor does he kid around. We all saw Brainiac leave Chloe body and enter the alter at the fortress.

[brando_2185]

What's confusing...is that when Doomsday said "Chloe.." part of me thought that there was a struggle between Davis and Doomsday, because Davis has such strong feelings for Chloe. Obviously, Brainiac knows about Doomsday coming to earth.

But...I may just be over analyzing it all and I'm very careful about that, but it might just be ONE HUGE plan of Brainiac's thus the attraction Davis (and the underlying Doomsday) had for Chloe. I'm sure everyone remembers the episode this season or last? not sure...but when Brainiac tried to suck the life out of Chloe he couldn't because of Chloe's abilities. I remember he turned all pale and said, "What the hell are you?!"

So somewhere in there Brainiac knew since Chloe has those special abilities, she would be the perfect vessel for him to dwell. Also, the same place Doomsday layed Chloe in the Fortress was the same place Clark layed her down for Jor-El to rid her of Brainiac's infection...so all evidence points to Brainiac FULLY possessing her body.

[keffnut]

Brainiac is in Lex, that explains the ending. He is the all knowing construct. It would be easier for him to have a host like Chloe, incase she does go back so he can keep tabs on Clark.

It looked although as if the video he was watching was from the camera, maybe Lana somehow got ahold of it and sent it to Lex? (It explains why Lana was there when Oliver thought he killed Lex with the arrow, and perhaps Lana is the one who left the note)

Lana is working for Lex because if she doesn't he will kill Clark.

[brando_2185]

Brainiac is in Lex, that explains the ending. He is the all knowing construct. It would be easier for him to have a host like Chloe, incase she does go back so he can keep tabs on Clark.

It looked although as if the video he was watching was from the camera, maybe Lana somehow got ahold of it and sent it to Lex? (It explains why Lana was there when Oliver thought he killed Lex with the arrow, and perhaps Lana is the one who left the note)

Lana is working for Lex because if she doesn't he will kill Clark.

Good point. I can't figure out if Tess sent that text to Lana or was it Lex? Tess knows Lex is alive but my thinking is that she has no clue where he is.

If Lana is working for Lex...then she definitely knows.

[topping82]

The poll doesn't include all the possible reasons. I think she smiled because she was happy and a part of her wanted to be with Davis. She's saying yes to Doomsday! It's Beauty smiling at the Beast. I think that should be an option.

[Clana4Life]

I don't know. Jor-El only translated the memories back. Now that I think of it, there was no full-on healing intent. No reason for Brainiac to slip out her ear. He wasn't forced out, just memories translated and altered. Looking back, I think Brainiac slithered out of her of his own free will (and left a bit behind, still dormant in her).

And I think Clark played into his hands by removing his secret and all things kryptonian. It would be advantageous to Brainiac, if his plan is to use Chloe and Davis to carry on Zod's line. A Chloe who doesn't know what Zod, the PZ, Brainiac, or Krypton is is more helpful to him than a Chloe who does. She has no reason to fear any of it. She would be way easier to manipulate than a Chloe who knew what kind of types she was mixing with.

This is interesting because it opens up the possibility that Chloe might have Davis'/Doomsdays' child. Wouldn't that be something? She'd be torn - because the child would be hers and Clark might think she should destroy it. Hmm, I never thought of that until I read your post TheAmazingApe.

[Krypto~Luan]

her eyes looked all wearid to me, maybe she is acting cause she is scared? Maybe possesed by braniac, maybe she was tampered with!

[xrayvision]

Brainiac is in Lex, that explains the ending. He is the all knowing construct. It would be easier for him to have a host like Chloe, incase she does go back so he can keep tabs on Clark.

It looked although as if the video he was watching was from the camera, maybe Lana somehow got ahold of it and sent it to Lex? (It explains why Lana was there when Oliver thought he killed Lex with the arrow, and perhaps Lana is the one who left the note)

Lana is working for Lex because if she doesn't he will kill Clark.

I highly doubt Brainiac is in Lex. Brainiac was in Chloe because of what happened in Arctic. But there's no reason for Brainiac to be in Lex. Instead, I think the ending of Bride is Lex's version of training. I think he wired his mind to a bunch of cameras around the world so that his mind could pick up as much info as possible so he could use all this knowledge in battling Clark.

I'm certain Lana is working for him & sent him that text message. She wouldn't work for Brainiac. I'm also starting to think that Lex is X and that he is prepping Tess to be his future partner in crime.

[MetroGirl06]

Brainiac is virtually the hardest thing to get rid of with a history of 'close deaths'. I think there is still some part of him in Chloe. She obviously mouthed "Doomsday" at the end, so somethings up.

[xrayvision]

Obviously, Brainiac knows about Doomsday coming to earth.

I'm pretty sure Brainiac caused his arrival when he went back in time in the events of Veritas & Apocalypse. Notice how Faora was looking for Davis but Zod wasn't but instead was looking forward to start a new race using Lana. If Zod knew about Davis, he would have looked for him & unleashed him. My theory says that even though Davis is in his 20's he never existed until Brainiac placed his genetic material in or on the outside of Clark's ship when he was stuck on Krypton. So he wouldn't have existed in the Smallville timeline back when Zod aired because Brainiac hadn't yet changed the timeline.

[clarkbunny]

Sorry people I know my mind is in the gutter but I couldn't help but laugh at all the comments on here

Brainiac isn't completely out of Chloe..........and he still has his fingers in Doomsday :rotfl:

Oh dear the unlikeliest menage a trois imaginable, Chloe you dark horse :lol:

what would that be Chlaviac? :D

[Mischael12]

I'm sure somebody posted this, but it wasn't her smiling that freaked me out it was her eyes.

[clarkbunny]

That means all of Brainiac wasn't out of Chloe. And she looked unconscious when he was carrying her. I hope its revealed when Legion airs!

I guess that's what happens after Kryptonian robot sex :lol:

[Black Panda]

She's saying yes to Doomsday! It's Beauty smiling at the Beast. I think that should be an option.
It's not really a happy smile though, more of a creepy evil grin.


I know some are desperate for anything that proves it wasn't really Chloe that married Jimmy (afterall Jimmy is the liar, scheming, no good one of the two) but it was really Chloe who married Jimmy. "Brainiac" would not need to be carried to the FOS, he could have just flew there.

Well, I don't need her to have been Brainiac when she married Jimmy. I can see the character doing it with her brain having been rewired. It's kind of six of one half a dozen of another when you've ripped the life out of a character. However, I think she did some fairly Brainiac like things in the episode, like standing motionless posed before people came on the scene.


when Chloe finaly gains control, she won't be happy to find her memories whiped,
Yeah, I'd like to see them address the moral and practical idiocy of the mindwipe. I almost wonder if part of the reason the other characters don't call Clark on it is to brew the discontent so we can enjoy Chloe doing it.

[RedKRules]

I still think Brainiac never left Chloe´s mind, even after the mind bleaching .... the so lost memories was just a masquerade for Brainiac´s plan, ohhhhh man he is GOOD, brillant :D, I mean he fooled Jor El´s Norton antivirus and the smartest alien Clark Kent , I gotta give you the credit for that Brainiac!!! :p

[RedKRules]

Yes, I think that Brainiac played with Clark and Jor El the whole time, I don´t think Chloe´s memories of Clark are gone, but intentionally hidden by Brainiac for the purposes we learned about at Bride, I think for once when Brainiac is finally destroyed, Chloe will have her memories back, I know it is a long shot but for me it makes sense!

[ktina]

What I got from the scene/episode was that Chloe was healed after Abyss - no more Brainiac. Then he took over the FOS. When Doomsday finally turned, Brainiac led him to being him a host body. When DD lays Chloe down, Brainiac reinfects her.

Now why Chloe was chosen (IMO) has two possibilities:
1) Davis is a part of DD and his attraction to Chloe led him to her (the one I believe most)
2) Brainiac having previously affected her knew her body would work just fine for him as a vessel

[MethosII]

I also believe it was in her the whole time. That is the only way Doomsday knew to bring her to the Fortress.
My question is how did Lex get that video? And who has him hooked up to that machine? It has to be someone from the wedding that knew about it. I suspect Lana has a hand in this.

Obviously the camera man was working for Lex. Thats why the camera was transmitting the whole thing to him.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

I'm reading all of these replies about Brainiac and on and on, but I thought it was because she was remembering her wedding (the good parts), because they showed a lot of flashbacks.

[alejandrita439]

i scared when i saw that scene :(

[RedKRules]

I was like ...... wowwwww that is sooooooo cool!!!!!!! AM totally sold it as someone mentioned before!!!

[Kal-El 2005]

Nah I don't think Chloeiac is still alive or was at that point in time at least. I think yes Jor-El did completely get Brainiac out of her, Brainiac hid and was biding his time to take over the fortress. When he did finally take back over the fortress somehow he got a message to Doomsday and made a Bride of Frankenstein pact with him, if he brought Chloe in return for doing his bidding he would infect her mind and make her his (Doomsday's) bride. Maybe she's smiling because she's evil now or seeing waking up and seeing her new love. I don't see how Brainiac would have control over Doomsday, he can't just be able to.. he has to have something hanging over his head. And I know some of you are thinking it too.. Chloe looked cute with the black eyes. :)

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

I think that Doomsday brought her there to sort of re-put Brainiac inside of her, so maybe that's why she was smiling.

[xrayvision]

Nah I don't think Chloeiac is still alive or was at that point in time at least. I think yes Jor-El did completely get Brainiac out of her, Brainiac hid and was biding his time to take over the fortress. When he did finally take back over the fortress somehow he got a message to Doomsday and made a Bride of Frankenstein pact with him, if he brought Chloe in return for doing his bidding he would infect her mind and make her his (Doomsday's) bride. Maybe she's smiling because she's evil now or seeing waking up and seeing her new love. I don't see how Brainiac would have control over Doomsday, he can't just be able to.. he has to have something hanging over his head. And I know some of you are thinking it too.. Chloe looked cute with the black eyes. :)

I don't want Doomsday to be shown caring about marriage. That would be an insult to the character.

By the way, were Chloe's eyes darkened, or were they just reflecting the blackness of the Fortress of Doom/Solitude? They didn't seem like they did when Brainiac messed her up in season 7.

[Kal-El 2005]

I don't want Doomsday to be shown caring about marriage. That would be an insult to the character.

By the way, were Chloe's eyes darkened, or were they just reflecting the blackness of the Fortress of Doom/Solitude? They didn't seem like they did when Brainiac messed her up in season 7.

I thought that they were darkened but now that you mention it I'm not sure because there seems to be alot of reflections also. You decide:
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/SupaFreak2005/vlcsnap-7580169.jpg

[unfocused]

Black contacts maybe? I'd like to see that for a few episodes, actually. Maybe with BrainIAC in control, her hair will turn darker as well :D That would be a nice change for a few weeks.

[RedKRules]

I think it is black contacts as well :eek:

[BULLITT]

She likes them horny?:rotfl:

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

^

:lol:

[dru-zod2501]

I think it was just the lighting, or lack thereof. there wasn't anything wonky or brainiac-y that was visible.

[justincredible]

How would doomsday know to bring her to the fortress?! That was so weird!:confused:

doomsday can sense all things kryptonian or something like that

[Iluvgreen]

I think braniac took over Chloe's body, and HE was smiling....

[Radioflyer]

Yes, I think that Brainiac played with Clark and Jor El the whole time, I don´t think Chloe´s memories of Clark are gone, but intentionally hidden by Brainiac for the purposes we learned about at Bride, I think for once when Brainiac is finally destroyed, Chloe will have her memories back, I know it is a long shot but for me it makes sense!Ditto.

[Sweetie]

Brainiac was taking over her body again.

[RedKRules]

My POV is that he never left

[galatians221]

My POV is that he never left

Then why did DD have to trek all the way to the FOS if he was already in her? He laid her on an altar and something happened fer sure. If he was already in her he must have needed to reactivate himself or something

[LovelyLoisLane]

Anyone thinking, besides me, that BrainIAC wanted Clark to keep Chloe's Kryptonian-related memories gone? That way when he re-infects her, which he did at the end of this episode, she wouldn't suspect that problems that may arise would be BrainIAC related because she won't know what BrainIAC is this time around.

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i think brainiac has his fingers in doomsday is my guess


BrainIAC & Doomsday forever. :p

[xrayvision]

Anyone thinking, besides me, that BrainIAC wanted Clark to keep Chloe's Kryptonian-related memories gone? That way when he re-infects her, which he did at the end of this episode, she wouldn't suspect that problems that may arise would be BrainIAC related because she won't know what BrainIAC is this time around.

That is a great point.

[All about Clark]

I'm reading all of these replies about Brainiac and on and on, but I thought it was because she was remembering her wedding (the good parts), because they showed a lot of flashbacks.

I wanted to believe that, but it was clear the memory/video sequence was for Lex's view.

Chloe's smile was Braniac re-infecting her, notice the fortress formation she laid on was completely black. Braniac was there, just waiting for DD to bring her to him. And the reason her eyes were so black as well.

[brando_2185]

Not to be too analytical but when Doomsday layed Chloe down on the Fortress structure and her eyes changed to that hue and form...I immediately knew it was Brainiac since it closely resembled Brainiac's liquid form.

[TheAmazingApe]

Jor-El did not "fail" in doing what he set out to do. Jor-El does not fail in anything he does. If he says he'll do something, he'll do it. Period.. Jor-El doesn't do anything half ass, nor does he kid around. We all saw Brainiac leave Chloe body and enter the alter at the fortress.

I don't think Jor-El failed. I think he did what he said he would. He translated the kryptonian code nack to human memories and held back the ones containing Clark's secret and all things Kryptonian. He never said anything about taking the Brainiac infection away. I think Brainiac slithering out was all his own doing. He slithered out, seeing that something was interfering, and infected the fortress.

Maybe that was Brainiac's plan all along, to get Clark to get Chloe there so he could do it (that Chloe was a a pawn in this game). Maybe he left some of himself inside her and maybe he didn't. Time will tell.

Yes, we all saw Brainiac slither out of her, but Clark didn't. He might have thought to contain the (X-Files rip-off) black oil, otherwise. When the ice absorbed it, I knew some sh*t was gonna go down and it did. Jor-El and Clark didn't see that coming. And whether Brainiac reinfected her in the fortress or whether he was latent, he is back.

I think Clark bringing her there and wiping her memories served Brainiac well.

[Serynarpc]

Doom is obviously under control of Brainiac (they were both constructs of Krypton) and he brought Chloe to get her the full Brainiac 2.0 update.
Perhaps it was for Clark's benefit that Chloiac doesn't know all of their touching moments (which would have been better at manipulating him)

[unfocused]

Perhaps it was for Clark's benefit that Chloiac doesn't know all of their touching moments (which would have been better at manipulating him)

Oh snap! great point! I never thought about that. But now that Chloe doesn't know about Clark's secret, it may affect ChloIAC in some way. I don't see how, and I'm not going to speculate, it's way too early for that, but I think it would be a very interesting twist.

Just imagine, Clark's controversial decision to mindwipe Chloe gives him some kind of unintended advantage against BrainIAC... if this is the case, I can honestly say this may be the best writing this show has ever had. Smallville has always been good when it comes to twists, so I won't say I'm surprised if this is what happens. But such an unexpected twist would be so fun!

Ok, I'll speculate a tiny bit, I can't help myself :lol: Maybe now that there are holes/altered memories in Chloe's mind, BrainIAC would be weaker somehow. Or, maybe because BrainIAC has taken over Chloe, he fills those holes, or undoes those alterations to her memories. OR the alteration process is what hurts BrainIAC...! Maybe, by default, the BrainIAC infection tries to piece Chloe's memories back together but cannot because it was Jor-El who altered them to a point where they cannot be altered back perfectly or even at all.

!

[Serynarpc]

I wanted to believe that, but it was clear the memory/video sequence was for Lex's view.

Chloe's smile was Braniac re-infecting her, notice the fortress formation she laid on was completely black. Braniac was there, just waiting for DD to bring her to him. And the reason her eyes were so black as well.

I'm getting this vibe as well. Brainiac is doing his 'Everything is on track- Kal - El killing machine is my puppy and I am possessing someone Kal - El won't kill. I am ready to rock and roll.'
I've never been so excited for the next episode.


Oh snap! great point! I never thought about that. But now that Chloe doesn't know about Clark's secret, it may affect ChloIAC in some way. I don't see how, and I'm not going to speculate, it's way too early for that, but I think it would be a very interesting twist.

Just imagine, Clark's controversial decision to mindwipe Chloe gives him some kind of unintended advantage against BrainIAC... if this is the case, I can honestly say this may be the best writing this show has ever had. Smallville has always been good when it comes to twists, so I won't say I'm surprised if this is what happens. But such an unexpected twist would be so fun!

Ok, I'll speculate a tiny bit, I can't help myself :lol: Maybe now that there are holes/altered memories in Chloe's mind, BrainIAC would be weaker somehow. Or, maybe because BrainIAC has taken over Chloe, he fills those holes, or undoes those alterations to her memories. OR the alteration process is what hurts BrainIAC...! Maybe, by default, the BrainIAC infection tries to piece Chloe's memories back together but cannot because it was Jor-El who altered them to a point where they cannot be altered back perfectly or even at all.

!


*Nods* This occurred to me when I recalled Chloe fumbling with the Kryptonite in the barn. While Brainiac knows about Kryptonite and all that jazz that hurts Kal - El- he has no idea what makes Clark cry like a little girl anymore. Unless he plans to body jack Lana again (and please, no), Brainiac is operating off the reservation.

I still think that Brainiac pretending to be Chloe (as he did with Kara) would mess with Clark's mind fantastically. Clark has no idea how Chloe's memory loss will affect her. If she says something out of character, is it because he took that aspect of her memory? Guilt might distract him long enough for Chloiac to do some real damage.

[unfocused]

I am possessing someone Kal - El won't kill. I am ready to rock and roll.'

:lol: BrainIAC is too damn clever and relentless.

[ywm]

Brainy must possess Chloe because no human-iac except her could stay alive. she is "what the hell are you", you know:lol:

[RedKRules]

Then why did DD have to trek all the way to the FOS if he was already in her? He laid her on an altar and something happened fer sure. If he was already in her he must have needed to reactivate himself or something

I was talking about her mind, not her body, I think Jor El´s Norton Antivirus FAILED to remove Brainiac from her mind ....

but then when Doom took her to the Fortress of Creepitude which is so much cool than the real one ... my point is that when Doom took her to there, Brainiac then ... took over her body ....

[unfocused]

There was no indication that Jor-El "FAILED." However, there was more than enough indication that Jor-El SUCCEEDED in removing BrainIAC from her. As was made evident when Chloe became really happy after the mindwipe and wasn't harmed until Doomsday captured her.

It was only when Doomsday laid her down in the center of the Fortress that Chloe showed any signs of BrainIAC, indicating that's when BrainIAC had an effect on her.

[RedKRules]

I didn´t see Chloe at that wedding, I had the confirmation when she just standing there staring out to nowhere, lifeless, and she was not standing in front of the mirror .... she only came out of her standby moment, because Lois snapped her out of it! and then when she grabbed that meteor rock ... why would she want to walk with it during the aisle scene ?? I just thought to myself, dang Brainiac has sense of humor ... that scene was totally ooc, oh another point, if Jor El Norton Antivirus was really that good, the Legion wouldn´t have to come back from Future to clean up the mess that he and his beloved son made .... right??! so yes he failed !! at least in POV!! Brainiac played them all ... I loved it!!!

The RealChloe wouldn´t just stand there waiting for Doom to get to her, it was all well planned by Brainiac!!

[AChloeChick]

Why does Chloe smile at Doomsday? Duh! Because she thinks he's HOT with those red eyes and boney protrusions!

[galatians221]

Oh snap! great point! I never thought about that. But now that Chloe doesn't know about Clark's secret, it may affect ChloIAC in some way. I don't see how, and I'm not going to speculate, it's way too early for that, but I think it would be a very interesting twist.

Just imagine, Clark's controversial decision to mindwipe Chloe gives him some kind of unintended advantage against BrainIAC... if this is the case, I can honestly say this may be the best writing this show has ever had. Smallville has always been good when it comes to twists, so I won't say I'm surprised if this is what happens. But such an unexpected twist would be so fun!

Ok, I'll speculate a tiny bit, I can't help myself :lol: Maybe now that there are holes/altered memories in Chloe's mind, BrainIAC would be weaker somehow. Or, maybe because BrainIAC has taken over Chloe, he fills those holes, or undoes those alterations to her memories. OR the alteration process is what hurts BrainIAC...! Maybe, by default, the BrainIAC infection tries to piece Chloe's memories back together but cannot because it was Jor-El who altered them to a point where they cannot be altered back perfectly or even at all.

!

So, is DD more like Frankenstein's monster or Igor? Igor had to go find a brain and DD had to go get Chloe. Igor with an attitude I suppose.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Oh snap! great point! I never thought about that. But now that Chloe doesn't know about Clark's secret, it may affect ChloIAC in some way. I don't see how, and I'm not going to speculate, it's way too early for that, but I think it would be a very interesting twist.

Just imagine, Clark's controversial decision to mindwipe Chloe gives him some kind of unintended advantage against BrainIAC... if this is the case, I can honestly say this may be the best writing this show has ever had. Smallville has always been good when it comes to twists, so I won't say I'm surprised if this is what happens. But such an unexpected twist would be so fun!

Ok, I'll speculate a tiny bit, I can't help myself :lol: Maybe now that there are holes/altered memories in Chloe's mind, BrainIAC would be weaker somehow. Or, maybe because BrainIAC has taken over Chloe, he fills those holes, or undoes those alterations to her memories. OR the alteration process is what hurts BrainIAC...! Maybe, by default, the BrainIAC infection tries to piece Chloe's memories back together but cannot because it was Jor-El who altered them to a point where they cannot be altered back perfectly or even at all.

!


i actually agree. i think it would be an interesting twist... :D

[4Clana]

Oh snap! great point! I never thought about that. But now that Chloe doesn't know about Clark's secret, it may affect ChloIAC in some way. I don't see how, and I'm not going to speculate, it's way too early for that, but I think it would be a very interesting twist.

Just imagine, Clark's controversial decision to mindwipe Chloe gives him some kind of unintended advantage against BrainIAC... if this is the case, I can honestly say this may be the best writing this show has ever had. Smallville has always been good when it comes to twists, so I won't say I'm surprised if this is what happens. But such an unexpected twist would be so fun!

Yeah that's the direction I thought the show was leading to all along. I and others brought this up in the Abyss discussions, when people were whining about the decision. That part of the reason Clark mindwiped Chloe was because with the Brainiac infection she was becoming a wildcard and so Clark could no longer trust her. He mindwiped partly for Chloe but also partly for the greater good, he can't risk her, full of knowledge, being turned against him as a weapon. The motivation and direction of the show was already hinted at in Prey when Clark said he was afraid of who she would put her trust in.

[Hopefulsuicide]

It might have worked a lot better if Clark had found out about the guy she had killed... maybe then the confrontation of what his secret is doing to her life would have gone a little differently, and the idea that he was afraid of what she was becoming, because it could possibly mean she is a danger to him would make more sense...

i'm starting to wonder if the murder will even ever be brought up again...

[galatians221]

It might have worked a lot better if Clark had found out about the guy she had killed... maybe then the confrontation of what his secret is doing to her life would have gone a little differently, and the idea that he was afraid of what she was becoming, because it could possibly mean she is a danger to him would make more sense...

i'm starting to wonder if the murder will even ever be brought up again...

And the most profound aspect of that action is that Chloe went from counseling meteor infected folks to killing them. Pretty big turnaround.

[unfocused]

Yeah that's the direction I thought the show was leading to all along. I and others brought this up in the Abyss discussions, when people were whining about the decision. That part of the reason Clark mindwiped Chloe was because with the Brainiac infection she was becoming a wildcard and so Clark could no longer trust her. He mindwiped partly for Chloe but also partly for the greater good, he can't risk her, full of knowledge, being turned against him as a weapon. The motivation and direction of the show was already hinted at in Prey when Clark said he was afraid of who she would put her trust in.

Ah, I wish I was a part of that discussion, I don't remember it. It sounds really interesting and makes a lot of sense. Clark could be devious enough to make that part of the reason for his decision, and I really hope this is true when/if Chloe confronts him about that decision.

[SnowBird]

Yeah that's the direction I thought the show was leading to all along. I and others brought this up in the Abyss discussions, when people were whining about the decision. That part of the reason Clark mindwiped Chloe was because with the Brainiac infection she was becoming a wildcard and so Clark could no longer trust her. He mindwiped partly for Chloe but also partly for the greater good, he can't risk her, full of knowledge, being turned against him as a weapon. The motivation and direction of the show was already hinted at in Prey when Clark said he was afraid of who she would put her trust in.

This crossed my mind as well that Chloe could be a threat to Clark and the world and Clark keeping his secret from Chloe would be a safeguard.

[RedKRules]

Chloe was a never threat to Clark, until Brainiac infected her ...... how could she possible be a threat ?? by the way I am glad Lana called him off his god complex ....

[SnowBird]

Chloe was a never threat to Clark, until Brainiac infected her ...... how could she possible be a threat ?? by the way I am glad Lana called him off his god complex ....

Chloe would not knowingly hurt anyone, but if she is under someone elses control like truth serum, she could reveal Clark's secret. Now there is no danger of this unless Brainiac has given all her memories back to her.

Clark has never had a God complex. If bringing a person back to life could be considered a God complex or playing God, then Chloe qualifies after saving Lois and Lex/Clark from death. It was Chloe that compared Clark to God. In normal mode, Clark has always been humble about his powers and if anything dragged his feet about fullfilling his destiny and he never wanted to conquere the world.

I'm sorry for using Chloe to prove a point but it seems like the subject of Chloe's memories has made this about Clark vs. Chloe and that is a shame and I have fallen into the trap. Chloe is a great character and I hope everything gets resolved in the future for the best.

[Atomic girl]

Why was Chloe smiling?....drum roll please.....Doomsday saved her from Jimmy.......OK I just couldn't resist.....now back to your regularly scheduled thread topics....

[Odysseus]

Agreed.....However, ALL of Braniac was indeed out of Chloe. But when Doomsday brought her back to the Fortress (which Braniac is now in control of) Braniac transferred himself back into Chloe, which than led to the smile. Braniac is now back in Chloe's body.

I think this is the most likely explanation.

The interesting thing is, after Clark rescues Chloe, he will probably still think that Chloe has been freed from Brainiac, not knowing that he downloaded himself back into Chloe's brain again. Which leads me to wonder whether Brainiac will try to pull a repeat of Abyss, or try a different tactic next time...

[luvinChlark]

I haven't read the whole thread yet but how come we didn't see chloe's eyes turn black like in Abyss? We just saw her smile. Maybe Brainiac didn't fully leave her in Abyss (only enough to effect the fortress) then once Doomsday set Chloe down Chloaic smiled knowing that she can do whatever the Evil plan is.

[Serynarpc]

Ah, I wish I was a part of that discussion, I don't remember it. It sounds really interesting and makes a lot of sense. Clark could be devious enough to make that part of the reason for his decision, and I really hope this is true when/if Chloe confronts him about that decision.

I don't think that Clark had Chloe mind wiped because he couldn't trust her. When he doesn't trust someone, he's rather transparent. Clark behaved like he was happy for Chloe on her big day- all smiles and feeling good that he 'saved her' from her own memories of him (the ones she stated helped her make an impact).

I think that when Chloe eventually confronts him, Clark's going to have nothing on his side but the ability to hug an upset Chloe and try to convince her that he did it because he was mistaken, ala 'Hydro'. I *still* think that 'trust' will be a major issue here. Clark and Chloe both felt betrayed by one another when Clark used his powers to weed out Chloe's clients and Clark felt threatened when Chloe was standing up for Davis. They made up - but the aspect of Chloe being body jacked by his greatest enemy to date (as Clark apparently isn't worried about the giant thing that abducted Chloe as he never mentioned it) and Clark's violation of her mind will have both of them eying each other. Add in Davis - (is Doomsday going to be an on - off thing so that Davis can insert himself between Clark & Chloe?) and these two BFF are heading for rocky waters.

[marka58091]

Well if you can see her eyes it is pretty obvious that Brainac is back in Chloe. Brainac knew Clark would rebuild the fortress when he found out what was happening with Chloe, this gave him the opportunity to take over the Fortress. Clark is not too bright, and without Chloe on his side to guide him, better hope the Legion knocks some sense into him.

[Just Another Guy]

I would welcome any trust issues, so long as she gets her memories back.

[RedKRules]

I haven't read the whole thread yet but how come we didn't see chloe's eyes turn black like in Abyss? We just saw her smile. Maybe Brainiac didn't fully leave her in Abyss (only enough to effect the fortress) then once Doomsday set Chloe down Chloaic smiled knowing that she can do whatever the Evil plan is.

That is what I think as well !!!

[SnowBird]

Well if you can see her eyes it is pretty obvious that Brainac is back in Chloe. Brainac knew Clark would rebuild the fortress when he found out what was happening with Chloe, this gave him the opportunity to take over the Fortress. Clark is not too bright, and without Chloe on his side to guide him, better hope the Legion knocks some sense into him.

Chloe's eyes did look darker but didn't Chloe and Lana's eyes turn white when they were infected before with Brainiac?

Clark said Chloe was the smartest person he knew but did you have to insult Clark's intellegence to make Chloe look good? I think Clark will do just fine without sidekick Chloe. It's their friendship that I don't want to see end.

[Jaged]

Id like some connection from this with back in season 7. When Brainiac infected Chloe he said "My god what are you" or something, and his face looked slightly terrified. We know she was a meteor freak but that wouldnt cause a "My god what are you" from some super being like brainiac right? I dont know if this has been expanded on or not.

[chluv4ever]

I thought to break-down Chloe's scene, in relation to Brianiac, also relating to the vid I made http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UVV9Sno_H58

Talon scene, I know its possible Chloe didn't care Jimmy saw her before the wedding but IMHO she seemed unaware of what Jimmy was expressing to her, she later realised and calmed him down " Calm down boy, don't mess up my plan", JMHO

Barn scene, apart from the fact that Chloe made reference to herself as the bride of frankestain (which is laughable, but i believe, Brianiac was giving subtle hints). As have pointed out upthread, Chloe stood in the barn looking as lifeless as could be, almost robotic. She was still, hands down on her thighs holding the flower up (appeared perfect from the outside), while staring into space, away from the mirror (I seriously think Brianiac messed up here, Chloe was meant to be positioned facing the mirror, to appear like she was checking herself out, while she's in sleep mode, but we got sleep/lifeless Chloe in her wedding gown, facing away from the mirror, looking into thin air.."em who does that?"). If that is healthy then Chloe has got more problems than I anticipated. That scene was weird, to add to that craziness, when [MOD EDIT] called her, she kinda jumped and plastered her brightest yet fake smile on. How can I take what she said or did after that seriously, she declared she just wanted to walk down to the man she loves, and pointed Green'K at Clark, like she wanted to prove a point. Evil Brainaic IMHO

Doomsday rampage, as said upthread, Chloe was in perfect shape to run up to Clark faster than Lana did, this I agree with but Chloe could and would have run to metropolis (at least outside, away from the monster, "come on PS3, you can't tell me Shell'Chloe can't run") before Lana dragged herself to Clark. But we got Chloe with Jimmy shield standing there like she was waiting, she didn't move far away, just snuck into a corner, where people wouldn't notice what goes down MHO (stupid Jimmy followed her). There was something about her in this scene that screams "My Groom is here, Make way", even when she told " Jimmy don't" I got " Jimmy Don't Hurt Him" vibe ( yea I'm over my head now). She was soo OOC, I can not accept her as real/shell/pod Chloe at alll, it was a pretending game and she/Chloiac won.

B'FOS, when chloe woke up, ( I know most people stilll think repossesion occured but IMHO) her eyes where already dilated ( gleaming metal-like-brainiac subtance) and what I got was, " Is it safe now? can I stop pretending?" ...there is no one around, Creepy Smile "Great job Doomsday, it worked!". That creepy yet sexy smile of content! was perfect and priceless, it was a smile of achievement, of doing something she was proud of, smile of freedow to act as she wish, a evil smile of content in fooling them all. Genius! IMHO

In saying all this, I am not for one second ignorant of PS3 and their ways, I have 2% faith in the story revealing my rant/observaton but my only prayer is that we get some kind of payoff or explanation to the Chloiac/Brainiac (plan) storyline, if for nothing else but for my sanity.

[AChloeChick]

^^^Interesting post and vid.

Did Chloe really say, Don't hurt him? If so, was she talking about Jimmy hurting Doomy (which is extremely laughable) or Doomy hurting Jimmy?

[Serynarpc]

I also wondered why on Earth when all the sane people - save Clark and Lana- are running for the exits, the Bride and Groom duck under a flimsy rafter and wait. For what, exactly? Chloe's forgotten Clark, so she knows he's not coming to save them (if he even could, which also, no one knows yet). Jimmy picks up a stick to defend his Bride with- when he should have grabbed her by the hand and hightailed it.

That was all set up so Jimmy could get taken out and Chloe abducted.

I'm conflicted on if Chloe was still infected after the FOS. Once Jimmy's knocked out, whats to keep her from dusting off her hands, kicking off those pinchy shoes and saying 'Let's go, DD, you took out the ball and chain."

*edit*

Holy smokes, chluv4ever, that was a wickid vid. It does highlight that something is going on. Very nicely edited!

[RedKRules]

I thought to break-down Chloe's scene, in relation to Brianiac, also relating to the vid I made http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UVV9Sno_H58

Talon scene, I know its possible Chloe didn't care Jimmy saw her before the wedding but IMHO she seemed unaware of what Jimmy was expressing to her, she later realised and calmed him down " Calm down boy, don't mess up my plan", JMHO

Barn scene, apart from the fact that Chloe made reference to herself as the bride of frankestain (which is laughable, but i believe, Brianiac was giving subtle hints). As have pointed out upthread, Chloe stood in the barn looking as lifeless as could be, almost robotic. She was still, hands down on her thighs holding the flower up (appeared perfect from the outside), while staring into space, away from the mirror (I seriously think Brianiac messed up here, Chloe was meant to be positioned facing the mirror, to appear like she was checking herself out, while she's in sleep mode, but we got sleep/lifeless Chloe in her wedding gown, facing away from the mirror, looking into thin air.."em who does that?"). If that is healthy then Chloe has got more problems than I anticipated. That scene was weird, to add to that craziness, when [MOD EDIT] called her, she kinda jumped and plastered her brightest yet fake smile on. How can I take what she said or did after that seriously, she declared she just wanted to walk down to the man she loves, and pointed Green'K at Clark, like she wanted to prove a point. Evil Brainaic IMHO

Doomsday rampage, as said upthread, Chloe was in perfect shape to run up to Clark faster than Lana did, this I agree with but Chloe could and would have run to metropolis (at least outside, away from the monster, "come on PS3, you can't tell me Shell'Chloe can't run") before Lana dragged herself to Clark. But we got Chloe with Jimmy shield standing there like she was waiting, she didn't move far away, just snuck into a corner, where people wouldn't notice what goes down MHO (stupid Jimmy followed her). There was something about her in this scene that screams "My Groom is here, Make way", even when she told " Jimmy don't" I got " Jimmy Don't Hurt Him" vibe ( yea I'm over my head now). She was soo OOC, I can not accept her as real/shell/pod Chloe at alll, it was a pretending game and she/Chloiac won.

B'FOS, when chloe woke up, ( I know most people stilll think repossesion occured but IMHO) her eyes where already dilated ( gleaming metal-like-brainiac subtance) and what I got was, " Is it safe now? can I stop pretending?" ...there is no one around, Creepy Smile "Great job Doomsday, it worked!". That creepy yet sexy smile of content! was perfect and priceless, it was a smile of achievement, of doing something she was proud of, smile of freedow to act as she wish, a evil smile of content in fooling them all. Genius! IMHO

In saying all this, I am not for one second ignorant of PS3 and their ways, I have 2% faith in the story revealing my rant/observaton but my only prayer is that we get some kind of payoff or explanation to the Chloiac/Brainiac (plan) storyline, if for nothing else but for my sanity.

Great video!!! and I totally agree with your point of views there !!!:cool:;)

[OMEGA SAM87]

I find your post very interesting chluv4ever (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/member.php?u=36045)! you make a lot of good points.

In Abyss when Chloe mentioned to Clark that she kept seeing the symbol for doom in her mind, it was hinted that perhaps brainiac was sending Chloe a message. I think that Davis/Doomsday has been attracted to Chloe because of brainiac's presence in her, after all brainiac is a kryptonian creation sent by Zod and his men to do their bidding, so it stands to reason that he would know all there is to know about doomsday; how to communicate with and manipulate him.

[Jaged]

Yah it could something like doomsday attracted to chloe for brainiac but since doomsday hasnt fully developed davis felt love for chloe instead. Anyways wasn't brainiac created by Jor-El? or that may be in some other timeline/show :P. chluv4ever good points. I didn't quite note the mirror scene as strange i just guessed it was bride just getting over wedding nerves. but u definietly pulled up some good points

[lifelovedestiny]

Chloeiac is my guess. But I think this scene was the strangest, silliest of the episode, her smile was weird.

[galatians221]

I find your post very interesting chluv4ever (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/member.php?u=36045)! you make a lot of good points.

In Abyss when Chloe mentioned to Clark that she kept seeing the symbol for doom in her mind, it was hinted that perhaps brainiac was sending Chloe a message. I think that Davis/Doomsday has been attracted to Chloe because of brainiac's presence in her, after all brainiac is a kryptonian creation sent by Zod and his men to do their bidding, so it stands to reason that he would know all there is to know about doomsday; how to communicate with and manipulate him.

Maybe when Davis kissed her he put a little Brainiac into her. I mean she did kiss him back for a brief time and didn't slap him.

[Watching Smallville]

Her eyes went black.
It's Brainiac!