Does Chloe have feelings for Davis

[Clana4Life]

Lois asked her point blank if she was starting to have feelings for Davis and she bypassed the question. She could have said "no, of course not" but she didn't. I kind of wonder about that. Instead she said: "All I want to do is marry the man I love." I think she is being evasive. I'm not totally convinced that she doesn't have feelings for Davis just because she married Jimmy. Maybe she's in denial.

[ginnyfan]

I think it says something that Chloe lied to Jimmy about Davis' calls. I don't think she's regretting marrying Jimmy BUT at the same time, I don't think she's immune to Davis' confession at the end of "Abyss."

[Kalista]

I describe Chloe's feelings as a genuine attraction combined with a mutual Kryptonian connection. She likes Davis for his similarities to Clark.

[Clana4Life]

I agree ginnyfan, but sometimes the writers kind of throw a wrench in that by having Chloe say things like, "Whatever our connection was, it wasn't that" after Davis kissed her in Abyss and then she tells Lois that she thinks he is confused. So sometimes I think she has strong feelings for him but then she brushes them off with statements like those and makes me wonder if it's not a romantic connection that she feels for him.

[faz]

Maybe Chloe was hinting at that in her Bride of Frankenstein comment. She wants to be MRS. Doomsday.

[Clana4Life]

I really feel like Chloe will be leaving the show with Davis/Doomsday. I think she'll sacrifice herself to save the world. I just wish we could get a clear read on her feelings for Davis. Does she truly like the guy or is it just the Doomsday/Brainiac connection that draws the two of them together? I really like them together and wish that they could have their chance.

[faz]

In all seriousness this time, I think the Brainiac infection plays a HUGE role in this. But since Chloe doesn't really have any idea of what's going on, I think that SHE thinks it's a real connection. Which may make for some serious CK guilt-tripping later.

[Clana4Life]

Agreed. It was very weird how she smiled at Doomsday at the end.

[Becc]

I believe that she loves Jimmy but does have feelings for Davis and that's why she avoided the question. I don't know though how she will ever forgive Davis for ruining her wedding like that.

[amberdawn]

I think there is definitely an attraction to him, but Chloe clearly loves Jimmy too much to do anything about it.

[ROPERIAM]

Did you guys notice that the cornea of her eye was darkend. That was not the smile of Chloe. It was Braniac. He took over her again.

[NaYa]

She definitely has feelings for Davis, but is she feelings this way because of Brainiac? I think that is a question we all have.

[ginnyfan]

I agree ginnyfan, but sometimes the writers kind of throw a wrench in that by having Chloe say things like, "Whatever our connection was, it wasn't that" after Davis kissed her in Abyss and then she tells Lois that she thinks he is confused. So sometimes I think she has strong feelings for him but then she brushes them off with statements like those and makes me wonder if it's not a romantic connection that she feels for him.

That's true. As another poster said... does Brainiac have something to do with the attraction between them?

Also, I think Chloe... doesn't want to derail what she has with Jimmy. She doesn't feel strongly enough for Davis to... risk her marriage. So that's why she's giving off the mixed signals IMO. Davis' timing wasn't great. If she'd met him before things got this serious between her and Jimmy... maybe things would be different.

[topping82]

There is no doubt in my mind that Chloe does have feelings for Davis, she just hadn’t admitted them to herself yet. Chloe always hides her feelings with witty remarks and changing the subject. That’s what she did here. Her face fell many times through out the episode when she talked about happiness, being where you want, etc…She was almost empty inside.

Chloe said Davis was confused. But really, he said she was the one thing he was sure of. The confusion really comes from herself. She’s confused by her own feelings for him. She loves Jimmy (though I don’t think she’s in love with him) and she also loves Clark. To realize she might love someone more than her fiancée and her best friend scares her. But the feelings are definitely there.

On a side note, what was up with Lois calling Davis tall, dark and scary? I hate when characters talk about each other as if they already know their future. It’s silly. All Lois knows about Davis is that he’s a paramedic who’s been friends with Chloe, and who also helped save Oliver’s life. She also now learns that Davis seems to have a crush on Chloe. How does that make him scary? She doesn’t know he’s Doomsday. Davis is not scary. Doomsday is. So, the comment was a really badly written anvil.

I also think that it was not just Doomsday and Brainiac finding each other; A primal, magnetic attraction. Sam Witwer (Davis) says that he feels that there are two separate sides to Davis. And that Chloe and Davis connect for two reasons. Basically, Chloe and Davis connect because of 1) the Kryptonian connection and 2) a real human connection.

Even if Brainiac was not inside of Chloe, and Doomsday was not a part of Davis, he would still love her. And she would still have feelings for him. They understand each other, and it’s not just because of a magnetic attraction. If it was just Doomsday and Brainiac coming together, he would have called her Brainiac, not Chloe.

I think this version of Doomsday is probably somewhat close to the story in the Superman comics when Doomsday felt emotions for the first time. He felt love, compassion, humanity, etc… In the end he sacrifices his own happiness to save Clark and the world. It’s clear he felt compassion and love for Chloe as Doomsday. He even called her by name. I do think however that Davis probably won’t remember it when he wakes up. It’s a bit like the Hulk at the end of the movie when he says Betty’s name.

I think Davis reveals his true feelings for Chloe when he goes to the Talon and bumps into Jimmy. It’s obvious that Davis had written her a letter about his feelings (sound like the fever letter anyone?) and that he was going to give it to her but when seeing Jimmy he changed his mind. Jimmy goes on to comparing his own love to Chloe to a song, and then asks Davis if he knows what he means. Davis says “Yeah, I do,” pauses, and then says “Yeah, I do” again under his breath. You can see on his face what his feelings are. Jimmy’s feelings felt dressed up and not authentic. Davis on the other hand is much more direct about his feelings for Chloe, and tells her how he feels without having to pretty it up. If it’s real you shouldn’t have to. And Davis doesn’t.

The last shot of Chloe and Doomsday to that song said it all. It was the ultimate Beauty and the Beast shot reminiscent of King Kong and La Belle et La Bete. That shot was the best scene in any episode of Smallville….ever in my opinion. Doomsday/Davis is starting to remind me of Cole in Charmed! Chloe and Davis I think have that Phantom/Christine; Phoebe/Cole; Mick/Beth appeal.

Well anyway, as he carries Chloe into the fortress, he’s very gentle. When he pauses, it’s as if he’s considering kissing her. But then, instead he lays her gently to the ground. Davis is definitely a part of the Doomsday side of himself that he’s worked on suppressing over the years, because Doomsday loved Chloe, like Davis loves her.

When Chloe opens her eyes, I don’t believe she was possessed by Brainiac yet. Her eyes are a little darker, because I think Doomsday is reflecting off her eyes a bit. At first, she looks up at him in amazement. But then if you pay close attention, her eyes shift. It’s when her eyes lock with his eyes that she smiles. I think she could see Davis in his eyes. I also think that she felt free. She couldn’t break away on her own. Move on if you will. Davis/Doomsday helped her do it. She looked almost serene and peaceful. Also, when she looked into his eyes it was as if the could see the humanity in the monster, that everyone else would only see a killer in.

That said, Brainiac is definitely in her, a part of her, but he hasn’t completely possessed her yet. I think in the fortress their souls were connecting despite the monster within both of them.

Overall, it seems very clear that Chloe and Davis have feelings for each other. They are certainly the Beauty and the Beast of Smallville.

[RedKRules]

Brainiac or not Brainiac influence, I think she does!

[topping82]

Maybe Chloe was hinting at that in her Bride of Frankenstein comment. She wants to be MRS. Doomsday.

He did lay her on an alter! :) And somehow, I don't think Doomsday and Brainiac would think of themselves as Bride and Groom.

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Brainiac or not Brainiac influence, I think she does!

Maybe, the part Brainiac in her helped her to not feel guilty about not being with Jimmy. Some people think Chloe was re-infected by Brainiac when he laid her on the alter. But, I think a part of Brainiac was inside of Chloe the whole time. Hence, the Brainiac flashes through out the episode. Plus, how do we know, Chloe isn't the one who put out the kryptonite for Clark? The last time we saw it, it was in a box. It was in a drawer. In all the commotion was the drawer somehow knocked open, the box flipped to land on the ground. Or did Chloe, who had creepily opened it up before toward Clark, do it? Brainiac would certainly know it affects him. Even if Chloe doesn't anymore. Perhaps, Brainiac is influencing her choices.

When Doomsday showed up, Chloe's face looked scared, but her eyes looked excited. She didn't exactly run. She backed into a corner with Jimmy in front of her. Could Brainiac be setting him up? Did Brainiac want the wedding to happen as a way to get all these people in the same place at the same time? These are all fair questions I think. Chloe did kind of look like a pod person through out the episode. Was that because of her memory loss? Feeling lost because she was marrying Jimmy and not Clark or Davis? Or was it because she knew subconsciously what the end result would be?

I think overall, it was Chloe, but the Brainiac inside of her maybe gives her less inhibition. The Chloe inside of her felt connected to the monster and to Davis. Brainiac is taking her over though. But Chloe's still there, just like Davis is inside of Doomsday. And Chloe seemed pretty happy to be with him.

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I believe that she loves Jimmy but does have feelings for Davis and that's why she avoided the question. I don't know though how she will ever forgive Davis for ruining her wedding like that.

I think she loves Jimmy, but isn't in love with him. That said, she definitely has feelings for Davis.

When she said, "I just want to be able to walk down the aisle and marry the man I love," she was avoiding answering the question because she does have feelings for him. Plus, did she ever say who the man was that she wanted to marry? It was ambiguous. We're supposed to assume she meant Jimmy. But what if she subconsciously wanted to be married to Davis?

The episode is called "Bride," and I don't think it was because of the Chimmy wedding. It was referencing Bride of Frankenstein. He laid her on the alter in her wedding gown, she looks up at him and smiles.

For all we know Chloe and Jimmy aren't even really married. Did they sign the papers? Or was Jimmy hurt before he could?

Perhaps Chloe got the guy she really wanted, but had been too afraid to even admit it to herself.

And I think Chloe will forgive Davis, because it wasn't his fault. He had become the monster. It would be like seeing Betty blame Bruce for hurting people while he was the Hulk. I think she'd honestly be more angry about finding out Clark took her memories. I think she'll be disturbed, but I think she will believe she can save Davis. There's too much of a connection between them for her to hate him. She committed murder herself with Brainiac possessing her. So, I think she'll be able to relate. It wasn't her fault because it wasn't her. Just like it's not Davis's fault. Eventually, perhaps he'll be able to become aware of what he's doing and control it. This Doomsday clearly has more humanity in him than just that of a primal force. So, we shall see what happens! :)

[jimmyolsenblues]

i really hope that was not just chloe smiling at doomsday...
i hope she is infected some how with brainiac.
cause if chloe is actually happy doomsday stole her...that would make no sense

[AChloeChick]

I'm not sure what's truly going on between Chloe and Davis. I do, however, think there's something there. I also think Chloe's non-verbal communication in Bride spoke volumes. After all, she has had an 'easy' relationship with him, she's admitted she's attracted to him and, she has shared a kiss with him. Now, on her wedding day she's concerned about him.

She could have completely ignored his calls by turning off her phone or hit ignore, but she didn't. Plus, she flat out lied to Jimmy about it, and her convo to Lois steered clear of how she really feels. As always, Chloe brushes things under the rug.

IMO, she seemed torn. I still think she's trying to convince herself, as well as the audience that Jimmy is the man she loves. I do think she loves Jimmy, but I don't think she's truly in love with him.

I STILL cannot believe they actually went through with this marriage. It seems SO one sided.

Anyway, I've never really been a big fan of Beauty and the Beast type stories, but I'm finding myself completely engrossed with this one! A job very WELL done by the writers, AM, and SW!

[topping82]

i really hope that was not just chloe smiling at doomsday...
i hope she is infected some how with brainiac.
cause if chloe is actually happy doomsday stole her...that would make no sense

Why does Beauty always smile at the Beast in the same way? It makes sense because Brainiac is inside of her, but I don't think he's completely possessed her...yet.

Chloe has always loved the extraordinary, and it's when she sees the Beast's eyes that she smiles. Their souls connected. It's why the whole episode is called "Bride." It's not Brainiac and Doomsday in love. It's Davis and Chloe. They both have monsters in them. He laid her on the alter. I think the next episode there's going to be a little bit of a honeymoon.

As a woman, I must say, that if it was me I'd be happy Davis stole me away. LOL. Why do you think Christine in Phantom of the Opera is thrilled when the Phantom kidnaps her? There's a deep attraction there.

That said, I don't think Chloe is completely herself. Otherwise, she'd be worrying about whether or not Jimmy, Clark, Lois and Lana were hurt. But I think Brainiac has lessened her inhibitions. I think he wants Chloe and Davis to fall in love. He's very calculating. That said, there's no doubt in my mind that Chloe and Davis would love each other even without the monsters within them. Sam Witwer believes they connect for two reasons. Those are the two reasons Chloe smiles. The Brainiac inside of her smiles because he's happy his plan is working. And Chloe smiles because she sees the beauty in the beast. She loves Davis, and she just realized it (even if she's not completely aware of what's going on). She felt free. She was peaceful. She didn't look evil. Brainiac and Doomsday connected at the same time Chloe and Davis did. So basically, they connect because of their Kryptonian sides, and because of a real, human connection. In all the chaos, Chloe and Davis could still find each other.

It's the classic tale (tale as old as time :)) between Chloe and Davis!

[AChloeChick]

Like I've been saying, she's the beauty to his beast!

[Dor el]

Does Chloe has feelings for Davis? I think no, but Brainiac does.

[redeem147]

I think she has friendship feelings for Davis, and he is pretty hunky (a girl would have to notice) but I think she loves Jimmy. The human heart is a complicated thing though. And stick a Kryptonian killer robot in the mix...

[topping82]

Does Chloe has feelings for Davis? I think no, but Brainiac does.

Brainiac doesn't have feelings for anyone. He's a computer. Chloe does have feelings for Davis. It's the Beauty and the Beast storyline. Chloe smiles because of the Kryptonian connection as well as her human connection with Davis. Brainiac is inside of her and he does smile too as his plan is working.

But Chloe is the Bride of Doomsday, not Brainiac. I don't think Doomsday would want to kiss him. Doomsday leans toward her as if to kiss her, but then gently lays her on the alter.

Since Chloe is in a kind of dream state, she was able to show what she was really feeling. The whole episode was leading up to this moment between Chloe and Davis/Doomsday. It is why the episode is called "Bride," as in Bride of Doomsday (instead of Frankenstein). This Doomsday can talk and has a touch of humanity.

Chloe has always had feelings for those with "abilities." She is smiling because she sees the humanity in the monster. Classic tale! Chloe's not completely herself....but she is.

[Doomsday666]

Brainiac doesn't have feelings for anyone. He's a computer. Chloe does have feelings for Davis. It's the Beauty and the Beast storyline. Chloe smiles because of the Kryptonian connection as well as her human connection with Davis. Brainiac is inside of her and he does smile too as his plan is working.

But Chloe is the Bride of Doomsday, not Brainiac. I don't think Doomsday would want to kiss him. Doomsday leans toward her as if to kiss her, but then gently lays her on the alter.

Since Chloe is in a kind of dream state, she was able to show what she was really feeling. The whole episode was leading up to this moment between Chloe and Davis/Doomsday. It is why the episode is called "Bride," as in Bride of Doomsday (instead of Frankenstein). This Doomsday can talk and has a touch of humanity.

Chloe has always had feelings for those with "abilities." She is smiling because she sees the humanity in the monster. Classic tale! Chloe's not completely herself....but she is.
Doomsday & Chloe Kiss = WTF

The reason why she was smiling is because Brainiac took over her again. It was all Brainiac's doing. I highly doubt they will kiss. Davis & Chloe might but not as Doomsday.

[Dor el]

Brainiac doesn't have feelings for anyone. He's a computer. Chloe does have feelings for Davis. It's the Beauty and the Beast storyline. Chloe smiles because of the Kryptonian connection as well as her human connection with Davis. Brainiac is inside of her and he does smile too as his plan is working. But C

I wasn't referring to romantic feelings when I said Brainiac had feelings for Davis. I was referring to the plans/manipulations Brainiac has in store for Davis/DD perhaps as they related to destroying CK or bringing Zod's plans to fruition. I realize Brainiac doesn't love anyone. Only lives to serve his master who at this point is Zod. Sorry I wasn't clear.

[topping82]

Doomsday & Chloe Kiss = WTF

The reason why she was smiling is because Brainiac took over her again. It was all Brainiac's doing. I highly doubt they will kiss. Davis & Chloe might but not as Doomsday.

I didn't say they would kiss. I said he contemplates kissing her. If you watch, he pushes her face toward him. He didn't actually kiss her. And yes, Davis will definitely kiss Chloe again. At least it would be a cop out if he didn't.

And she's supposed to be his bride. He's taking her to the alter. It's symbolic of a wedding. She's the Bride of Doomsday. Chloe even mentions Bride of Frankenstein in the episode, which is secretly what she seems to prefer.

And no, Chloe was not just smiling because she was Brainiac. She's still there, just like Davis is inside of the monster. There was a connection there. She looked at him as if she knew he'd come for her.

This is a classic monster love story between beauty and the beast. They were referencing classic movie and literary moments. I don't think Doomsday is in love with Brainiac. Now, that would be ridiculous.

If you watch the whole episode, pay attention to Chloe's facial expressions. She wants to be with Davis. It is what she is thinking about. When she's alone she clearly doesn't look like someone who wants to get married, but then as soon as someone else enters, her face changes and she puts on a fake smile.

I agree that Brainiac is in her and its influencing her. But I don't think it's only Brainiac that smiled.

The title gives away the whole meaning of the whole episode leading up to that scene. Chloe wants to be with the monster. She wants to be Mrs. Doomsday in a sense. Although, I think she is in a bit of a dream state as she's being taken over by Brainiac. The transformation is definitely not complete though.

[lm1212]

She is attracted to him, like she said in Abyss, but I guess she loves the Jimster. (I hate it). Oh and the connection between Brainiac and Doomsday is a completely different subject...hope you guys know that.

[topping82]

I wasn't referring to romantic feelings when I said Brainiac had feelings for Davis. I was referring to the plans/manipulations Brainiac has in store for Davis/DD perhaps as they related to destroying CK or bringing Zod's plans to fruition. I realize Brainiac doesn't love anyone. Only lives to serve his master who at this point is Zod. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Yeah, I get that. And I think that Brainiac definitely has plans for Davis/Doomsday. But I also think that it wasn't just Brainiac smiling at Doomsday. Part of it was Chloe.

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She is attracted to him, like she said in Abyss, but I guess she loves the Jimster. (I hate it). Oh and the connection between Brainiac and Doomsday is a completely different subject...hope you guys know that.

I think she loves Jimmy but isn't in love with him. There's a difference. I also think that the connection is entirely related to this subject. It's part of why Chloe and Davis are drawn together. Although, I think they are also drawn together because of a real human connection.

[RedKRules]

Yesterday Doom saved Chloe from making a huge mistake, Chloe has not been herself, she has been infected, mind wiped ... I didn´t even consider that a wedding !!!! anyway I still think Chloe feels something for Davis!!! and I love it:D:D

[lm1212]

I think she loves Jimmy but isn't in love with him. There's a difference. I also think that the connection is entirely related to this subject. It's part of why Chloe and Davis are drawn together. Although, I think they are also drawn together because of a real human connection.



Well, it's the same subject, but I said that for people who are like "Braniac is attracted to Davis" and weird stuff like that. On one hand, Brainiac and Doomy are trying to take over the world. On the other, Chloe and Davis are attracted to each other. It's a genuine human connection, but of course it's the B/D connection.
*I might be contradicting myself now :)*

[topping82]

Yesterday Doom saved Chloe from making a huge mistake, Chloe has not been herself, she has been infected, mind wiped ... I didn´t even consider that a wedding !!!! anyway I still think Chloe feels something for Davis!!! and I love it:D:D

Me too! I've even been editing Chloe/Davis videos the past few weeks, because they're the best coupling I've ever seen on this show. Just my opinion. He definitely saved Chloe from that awful mistake. It's just like the end of "The Graduate." Watch it and you will know why. :)

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Well, it's the same subject, but I said that for people who are like "Braniac is attracted to Davis" and weird stuff like that. On one hand, Brainiac and Doomy are trying to take over the world. On the other, Chloe and Davis are attracted to each other. It's a genuine human connection, but of course it's the B/D connection.
*I might be contradicting myself now :)*

I think we might agree! It would definitely be strange if Doomsday was attracted to Brainiac. He's clearly attracted to Chloe. Why else would they play a love song? It would be gross if it was just supposed to be Doomsday carrying Brainiac even though he's in the form of Chloe. No thank you.

Yeah, I think Brainiac is trying to take over the world, and Doomsday doesn't know that, that is his purpose yet. But he will. And I also definitely think there is a real human connection between Chloe and Davis as well. There's two things connecting them really.

[yomama]

.I think the next episode there's going to be a little bit of a honeymoon.

OUCH! That can't be comfortable. ;)

Seriously, Topping82, you've got the best insight into this relationship! I'm just wondering if this relationship is going to end like most monstrous relationships (with fire and pitchforks)...and will the beauty get out alive?

[topping82]

OUCH! That can't be comfortable. ;)

Seriously, Topping82, you've got the best insight into this relationship! I'm just wondering if this relationship is going to end like most monstrous relationships (with fire and pitchforks)...and will the beauty get out alive?

Yeah! :) Thanks. And that's a good question. Because will Davis become the prince in the end, or will Beauty be the death of him? Not literally, as he can't die. But be sent to another plane of existence or something. And yes, could this cause the beast to kill Beauty this time around? Who knows. But they are certainly interesting.

[Eeyore840]

There is no doubt in my mind that Chloe does have feelings for Davis, she just hadn’t admitted them to herself yet. Chloe always hides her feelings with witty remarks and changing the subject. That’s what she did here. Her face fell many times through out the episode when she talked about happiness, being where you want, etc…She was almost empty inside.

Chloe said Davis was confused. But really, he said she was the one thing he was sure of. The confusion really comes from herself. She’s confused by her own feelings for him. She loves Jimmy (though I don’t think she’s in love with him) and she also loves Clark. To realize she might love someone more than her fiancée and her best friend scares her. But the feelings are definitely there.

On a side note, what was up with Lois calling Davis tall, dark and scary? I hate when characters talk about each other as if they already know their future. It’s silly. All Lois knows about Davis is that he’s a paramedic who’s been friends with Chloe, and who also helped save Oliver’s life. She also now learns that Davis seems to have a crush on Chloe. How does that make him scary? She doesn’t know he’s Doomsday. Davis is not scary. Doomsday is. So, the comment was a really badly written anvil.

I also think that it was not just Doomsday and Brainiac finding each other; A primal, magnetic attraction. Sam Witwer (Davis) says that he feels that there are two separate sides to Davis. And that Chloe and Davis connect for two reasons. Basically, Chloe and Davis connect because of 1) the Kryptonian connection and 2) a real human connection.

Even if Brainiac was not inside of Chloe, and Doomsday was not a part of Davis, he would still love her. And she would still have feelings for him. They understand each other, and it’s not just because of a magnetic attraction. If it was just Doomsday and Brainiac coming together, he would have called her Brainiac, not Chloe.

I think this version of Doomsday is probably somewhat close to the story in the Superman comics when Doomsday felt emotions for the first time. He felt love, compassion, humanity, etc… In the end he sacrifices his own happiness to save Clark and the world. It’s clear he felt compassion and love for Chloe as Doomsday. He even called her by name. I do think however that Davis probably won’t remember it when he wakes up. It’s a bit like the Hulk at the end of the movie when he says Betty’s name.

I think Davis reveals his true feelings for Chloe when he goes to the Talon and bumps into Jimmy. It’s obvious that Davis had written her a letter about his feelings (sound like the fever letter anyone?) and that he was going to give it to her but when seeing Jimmy he changed his mind. Jimmy goes on to comparing his own love to Chloe to a song, and then asks Davis if he knows what he means. Davis says “Yeah, I do,” pauses, and then says “Yeah, I do” again under his breath. You can see on his face what his feelings are. Jimmy’s feelings felt dressed up and not authentic. Davis on the other hand is much more direct about his feelings for Chloe, and tells her how he feels without having to pretty it up. If it’s real you shouldn’t have to. And Davis doesn’t.

The last shot of Chloe and Doomsday to that song said it all. It was the ultimate Beauty and the Beast shot reminiscent of King Kong and La Belle et La Bete. That shot was the best scene in any episode of Smallville….ever in my opinion. Doomsday/Davis is starting to remind me of Cole in Charmed! Chloe and Davis I think have that Phantom/Christine; Phoebe/Cole; Mick/Beth appeal.

Well anyway, as he carries Chloe into the fortress, he’s very gentle. When he pauses, it’s as if he’s considering kissing her. But then, instead he lays her gently to the ground. Davis is definitely a part of the Doomsday side of himself that he’s worked on suppressing over the years, because Doomsday loved Chloe, like Davis loves her.

When Chloe opens her eyes, I don’t believe she was possessed by Brainiac yet. Her eyes are a little darker, because I think Doomsday is reflecting off her eyes a bit. At first, she looks up at him in amazement. But then if you pay close attention, her eyes shift. It’s when her eyes lock with his eyes that she smiles. I think she could see Davis in his eyes. I also think that she felt free. She couldn’t break away on her own. Move on if you will. Davis/Doomsday helped her do it. She looked almost serene and peaceful. Also, when she looked into his eyes it was as if the could see the humanity in the monster, that everyone else would only see a killer in.

That said, Brainiac is definitely in her, a part of her, but he hasn’t completely possessed her yet. I think in the fortress their souls were connecting despite the monster within both of them.

Overall, it seems very clear that Chloe and Davis have feelings for each other. They are certainly the Beauty and the Beast of Smallville.


What an eloquent post! Thank you for this. :) I love this relationship between Chloe and Davis, and I can't wait to see where it goes.

[fa8362]

I hope not. I'd love it if they off Davis.

[Who]

Does Chloe has feelings for Davis? I think no, but Brainiac does.

I agree.

[Maria1023]

There are definitely feelings there. Lois asked her straight out if she was developing feelings for Davis and she dodged the question. We all know that Chloe does that when she is not being honest....
I LOVE CHLAVIS!!!!

[Clana4Life]

I'm hoping Chloe becomes pregnant with Davis'/Doomsday's evil spawn and is torn as to what to do!

[chory]

;)i like your way of thinking on this topic coz i really like chloe and davis to be together but wishfull thinking.:\
There is no doubt in my mind that Chloe does have feelings for Davis, she just hadn’t admitted them to herself yet. Chloe always hides her feelings with witty remarks and changing the subject. That’s what she did here. Her face fell many times through out the episode when she talked about happiness, being where you want, etc…She was almost empty inside.

Chloe said Davis was confused. But really, he said she was the one thing he was sure of. The confusion really comes from herself. She’s confused by her own feelings for him. She loves Jimmy (though I don’t think she’s in love with him) and she also loves Clark. To realize she might love someone more than her fiancée and her best friend scares her. But the feelings are definitely there.

On a side note, what was up with Lois calling Davis tall, dark and scary? I hate when characters talk about each other as if they already know their future. It’s silly. All Lois knows about Davis is that he’s a paramedic who’s been friends with Chloe, and who also helped save Oliver’s life. She also now learns that Davis seems to have a crush on Chloe. How does that make him scary? She doesn’t know he’s Doomsday. Davis is not scary. Doomsday is. So, the comment was a really badly written anvil.

I also think that it was not just Doomsday and Brainiac finding each other; A primal, magnetic attraction. Sam Witwer (Davis) says that he feels that there are two separate sides to Davis. And that Chloe and Davis connect for two reasons. Basically, Chloe and Davis connect because of 1) the Kryptonian connection and 2) a real human connection.

Even if Brainiac was not inside of Chloe, and Doomsday was not a part of Davis, he would still love her. And she would still have feelings for him. They understand each other, and it’s not just because of a magnetic attraction. If it was just Doomsday and Brainiac coming together, he would have called her Brainiac, not Chloe.

I think this version of Doomsday is probably somewhat close to the story in the Superman comics when Doomsday felt emotions for the first time. He felt love, compassion, humanity, etc… In the end he sacrifices his own happiness to save Clark and the world. It’s clear he felt compassion and love for Chloe as Doomsday. He even called her by name. I do think however that Davis probably won’t remember it when he wakes up. It’s a bit like the Hulk at the end of the movie when he says Betty’s name.

I think Davis reveals his true feelings for Chloe when he goes to the Talon and bumps into Jimmy. It’s obvious that Davis had written her a letter about his feelings (sound like the fever letter anyone?) and that he was going to give it to her but when seeing Jimmy he changed his mind. Jimmy goes on to comparing his own love to Chloe to a song, and then asks Davis if he knows what he means. Davis says “Yeah, I do,” pauses, and then says “Yeah, I do” again under his breath. You can see on his face what his feelings are. Jimmy’s feelings felt dressed up and not authentic. Davis on the other hand is much more direct about his feelings for Chloe, and tells her how he feels without having to pretty it up. If it’s real you shouldn’t have to. And Davis doesn’t.

The last shot of Chloe and Doomsday to that song said it all. It was the ultimate Beauty and the Beast shot reminiscent of King Kong and La Belle et La Bete. That shot was the best scene in any episode of Smallville….ever in my opinion. Doomsday/Davis is starting to remind me of Cole in Charmed! Chloe and Davis I think have that Phantom/Christine; Phoebe/Cole; Mick/Beth appeal.

Well anyway, as he carries Chloe into the fortress, he’s very gentle. When he pauses, it’s as if he’s considering kissing her. But then, instead he lays her gently to the ground. Davis is definitely a part of the Doomsday side of himself that he’s worked on suppressing over the years, because Doomsday loved Chloe, like Davis loves her.

When Chloe opens her eyes, I don’t believe she was possessed by Brainiac yet. Her eyes are a little darker, because I think Doomsday is reflecting off her eyes a bit. At first, she looks up at him in amazement. But then if you pay close attention, her eyes shift. It’s when her eyes lock with his eyes that she smiles. I think she could see Davis in his eyes. I also think that she felt free. She couldn’t break away on her own. Move on if you will. Davis/Doomsday helped her do it. She looked almost serene and peaceful. Also, when she looked into his eyes it was as if the could see the humanity in the monster, that everyone else would only see a killer in.

That said, Brainiac is definitely in her, a part of her, but he hasn’t completely possessed her yet. I think in the fortress their souls were connecting despite the monster within both of them.

Overall, it seems very clear that Chloe and Davis have feelings for each other. They are certainly the Beauty and the Beast of Smallville.

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:eek:i was thinking about that too,good suggestion. i hope someone suggest that to PS3!!!;)
I'm hoping Chloe becomes pregnant with Davis'/Doomsday's evil spawn and is torn as to what to do!

[amandatay]

I think she is attracted to Davis because as she said she he is easy and he save people just like our hero Clark. She might have feelings for her but not very sure only time will tell if Brainaic is out of her.

[ginnyfan]

I think Chloe... was troubled by Davis' behavior, his kiss and his words. She's attracted to him. He's a great guy but the timing just wasn't right. It's a testament to how much she loves Jimmy that she didn't even stop to consider Davis for very long when he rejected only being friends.

About Lois' "Tall, Dark and Scary" comment it is rather obsessive to kiss a girl, tell her not to marry her fiance, then call her all day on her wedding day. I wonder what she's say if she knew how Clark behaved on Chloe's wedding day.

I disagree that Jimmy's feelings for Chloe are not authentic.

The Beast didn't massacre people. But if Chloe and Davis' love can aid in transforming them back to humans I will gladly jump on board the Beauty and the Beast theory. As it is, Chloe's eyes looked black with Brainiac when she woke up. Her initial reaction was weeping over Jimmy and screaming in terror at Doomsday. Granted if she knew that he was Davis she... I dunno. She doesn't know about aliens and Clark anymore... I doubt her reaction would be much different. Maybe she'd think he was meteor infected. ???

[topping82]

I think Chloe... was troubled by Davis' behavior, his kiss and his words. She's attracted to him. He's a great guy but the timing just wasn't right. It's a testament to how much she loves Jimmy that she didn't even stop to consider Davis for very long when he rejected only being friends.

About Lois' "Tall, Dark and Scary" comment it is rather obsessive to kiss a girl, tell her not to marry her fiance, then call her all day on her wedding day. I wonder what she's say if she knew how Clark behaved on Chloe's wedding day.

I disagree that Jimmy's feelings for Chloe are not authentic.

The Beast didn't massacre people. But if Chloe and Davis' love can aid in transforming them back to humans I will gladly jump on board the Beauty and the Beast theory. As it is, Chloe's eyes looked black with Brainiac when she woke up. Her initial reaction was weeping over Jimmy and screaming in terror at Doomsday. Granted if she knew that he was Davis she... I dunno. She doesn't know about aliens and Clark anymore... I doubt her reaction would be much different. Maybe she'd think he was meteor infected. ???

I agree that Chloe was troubled by the kiss. But I think she was troubled because she's afraid of her own feelings for him. She pushed away because she felt guilty, rather than because she didn't like it. I agree that the timing wasn't right. But what I like about Davis, is that he was so direct. He knew he could lose her if he didn't say something. Most guys would have been wimps and not even said anything at all. After Davis walked away, it seemed pretty clear to me that she was still considering. And all through "Bride" she was still considering as well. Pay attention to the subtle facial changes she makes when no one else is looking.

Also, when Lois asks Chloe if she has feelings for Davis, she evades the question.

I don't think Davis is obsessive at all. Clark's more obsessive than him. It's not obsessive to kiss a girl and tell her she's marrying the wrong person. He was fighting for her. How many times have we seen this same scenario in romantic movies? None of those characters were obsessive. They were just trying to fight for the person they just figured out they care about. What about the end of romantic comedies, when let's say the girl is about to get married, and the guy runs after her to stop her before she makes a big mistake. That's what Davis did.

Also, Davis was calling Chloe because he trusts her, not because he was trying to stalk her. He needed help and she's the only one he trusts. A stalker follows someone around, calls them constantly (not just on one day when they are in trouble) every day over and over with love messages, etc...Davis gives Chloe her space when she asks, is very gentlemanly, but at the same time he's willing to fight for the woman he loves.

I think that Jimmy loves Chloe, but he naturally has a wandering eye. Even in his subconscious in Noir, Jimmy prefers Lois and Lana. I just don't see him being faithful a few years down the road. Plus, Jimmy and Chloe don't have a very open relationship. And he's always jealous and insecure. That's the type of guy who ends up cheating, and uses his jealousy as an excuse. At least that's been my experience.

In literature and film, there are different kinds of beauties and beasts . And some of those beasts have killed. King Kong, vampires like Edward, Angel and Mick, the Hulk, the Phantom of the Opera, etc...Davis is not a killer though. It's Doomsday that is. He can't control it.

And that would be awesome, if their love could help transform him back to being just Davis. Or even if he learns how to control his abilities when he's Doomsday.

I think Chloe's eyes looked a little darker because 1) Brainiac was still inside of her and 2) Doomsday's reflection was in her eyes.

I don't think Chloe was completely possessed. The shots were too romantic for that. I think she was Chloe, but Brainiac was infecting her inhibitions. She felt freer, looser. It could be part of Brainiac's plan to let things develop between Chloe and Davis. I don't know. Although, I think the feelings between the two of them are sincere. To me it was as if, even though they both had monsters in them, their souls could still connect through the chaos.

Chloe has always been fascinated by the extraordinary. She is the beauty in this type of story who would think the beast is beautiful. She would think she can save him. It has only ever been easy for Chloe to connect with two guys. One is Clark, and the other is Davis. This says something to me about her true feelings, even if she hasn't admitted it to herself yet.

I'm really hoping they'll continue down the Beauty and the Beast path between them. Best thing Smallville's ever done if you ask me. Chloe and Davis aren't really characters in the comics, so this is one of the first times the writers can actually develop a couple organically without any of us knowing the end. Doomsday is obviously a character, but Davis has never been a part of him in the comics. So, the story line could go anywhere.

Well anyway, you should check out the famous film "La Belle et La Bete," by Jean Cocteau made in 1946. You can watch it on youtube. In part 4/9, there's a scene where the Beast carries Beauty. It is very clear that Smallville was inspired by this scene at the end when Davis carries Chloe. They were paying homage to that film which is considered one of the best films of all time. The two scenes in comparison are almost identical, though Smallville's version of it is much shorter and condensed.

In the scene, Beauty sees the Beast, screams and faints. Just like when Chloe sees Doomsday for the first time. The Beast walks over to Beauty and gently picks her up. In a very long sequence, the Beast picks up Beauty and carries her inside the castle. Shot by shot it looks almost EXACTLY like the shot of Doomsday and Chloe. Smallville shortens it a bit. But it is the same scene. The way he walks, the way he carries her. The pause as he looks down at her. He gently lays her on a bed. Then, he brings his face close to her. (The SAME shot of Doomsday leaning in toward Chloe). Then Beauty opens her eyes.

They even got the look of Doomsday partially from inspiration from the look of the Beast in this film. This tells me a lot about their possible Beauty and the Beast direction. Other movies such as Phantom of the Opera and The Hulk also pay homage to this film. So, why would they portray the Chloe/Doomsday scene like this for no purpose? They seem to really be building them up, and Sam Witwer in an interview says that you just get the sense that Jimmy and Chloe really aren't meant to be.

So we'll see what happens! But I think the writers should take advantage of a coupling that could really attract a lot of new viewers if advertised correctly.

Chloe says in "Bride" that she finally felt free and like she could move on. Was she talking about Jimmy? Or was Brainiac subconsciously suggesting to her that she would be free soon. Did the burden leave just when Clark took her memories, or was it also when Davis kissed her?

Chloe could have subconsciously known how the night was going to end. Hence why a part of her looks so free when she smiles. It was as if she was saying to him, "I knew you'd come for me." She is obviously somewhat in a trance due to Brainiac. But that doesn't mean her feelings for Davis aren't real, even if she isn't completely herself. If she were she would be worrying about Jimmy, Clark, Lois and Lana.

I don't think Brainiac ever completely left Chloe. Hence the Brainiac flashes through out the episode. I thought it was suspicious when Chloe opened the Kryptonite toward Clark. It was as if her Brainiac side was teasing him. How did it get open later on when it was closed in a drawer?

I think Chloe is herself on one hand, but her decisions are influenced by Brainiac on the other. That's why I think she was acting so strange in this episode. But that's just my opinion! I really do think Chloe has feelings for Davis and vice versa. And their real human connection would be there even without the Brainiac and Doomsday connection. I'm hoping Davis will be able to become the "Prince" in the end. Or maybe we'll find out that Gabe Sullivan isn't "really" Chloe's Dad, and that's why Brainiac says "What are you?" Like mother, like daughter. Who's to say her mother didn't have a relationship with someone not of this planet, and Chloe is only half human? LOL. Maybe that's why she's so drawn to meteor freaks, the supernatural, Clark and Davis. :) Because she herself is different. It would certainly explain why her abilities can change. She doesn't seem like other meteor freaks. But again, maybe it is because she is different that she has feelings for Davis.

[ginnyfan]

I don't think Davis is obsessive at all. Clark's more obsessive than him. It's not obsessive to kiss a girl and tell her she's marrying the wrong person. He was fighting for her. How many times have we seen this same scenario in romantic movies? None of those characters were obsessive. They were just trying to fight for the person they just figured out they care about. What about the end of romantic comedies, when let's say the girl is about to get married, and the guy runs after her to stop her before she makes a big mistake. That's what Davis did.

Also, Davis was calling Chloe because he trusts her, not because he was trying to stalk her.

I know that. But from Chloe and Lois' POV it seems like he's obsessing.

I'm going to agree to disagree about Chloe and Jimmy.

[AChloeChick]

topping82, just wanted to say I have thoroughly enjoyed your insight to the whole beauty and the beast concept.

I agree with what you're saying!

[Maria1023]

I agree that Chloe was troubled by the kiss. But I think she was troubled because she's afraid of her own feelings for him. She pushed away because she felt guilty, rather than because she didn't like it. I agree that the timing wasn't right. But what I like about Davis, is that he was so direct. He knew he could lose her if he didn't say something. Most guys would have been wimps and not even said anything at all. After Davis walked away, it seemed pretty clear to me that she was still considering. And all through "Bride" she was still considering as well. Pay attention to the subtle facial changes she makes when no one else is looking.

Also, when Lois asks Chloe if she has feelings for Davis, she evades the question.

I don't think Davis is obsessive at all. Clark's more obsessive than him. It's not obsessive to kiss a girl and tell her she's marrying the wrong person. He was fighting for her. How many times have we seen this same scenario in romantic movies? None of those characters were obsessive. They were just trying to fight for the person they just figured out they care about. What about the end of romantic comedies, when let's say the girl is about to get married, and the guy runs after her to stop her before she makes a big mistake. That's what Davis did.

Also, Davis was calling Chloe because he trusts her, not because he was trying to stalk her. He needed help and she's the only one he trusts. A stalker follows someone around, calls them constantly (not just on one day when they are in trouble) every day over and over with love messages, etc...Davis gives Chloe her space when she asks, is very gentlemanly, but at the same time he's willing to fight for the woman he loves.

I think that Jimmy loves Chloe, but he naturally has a wandering eye. Even in his subconscious in Noir, Jimmy prefers Lois and Lana. I just don't see him being faithful a few years down the road. Plus, Jimmy and Chloe don't have a very open relationship. And he's always jealous and insecure. That's the type of guy who ends up cheating, and uses his jealousy as an excuse. At least that's been my experience.

In literature and film, there are different kinds of beauties and beasts . And some of those beasts have killed. King Kong, vampires like Edward, Angel and Mick, the Hulk, the Phantom of the Opera, etc...Davis is not a killer though. It's Doomsday that is. He can't control it.

And that would be awesome, if their love could help transform him back to being just Davis. Or even if he learns how to control his abilities when he's Doomsday.

I think Chloe's eyes looked a little darker because 1) Brainiac was still inside of her and 2) Doomsday's reflection was in her eyes.

I don't think Chloe was completely possessed. The shots were too romantic for that. I think she was Chloe, but Brainiac was infecting her inhibitions. She felt freer, looser. It could be part of Brainiac's plan to let things develop between Chloe and Davis. I don't know. Although, I think the feelings between the two of them are sincere. To me it was as if, even though they both had monsters in them, their souls could still connect through the chaos.

Chloe has always been fascinated by the extraordinary. She is the beauty in this type of story who would think the beast is beautiful. She would think she can save him. It has only ever been easy for Chloe to connect with two guys. One is Clark, and the other is Davis. This says something to me about her true feelings, even if she hasn't admitted it to herself yet.

I'm really hoping they'll continue down the Beauty and the Beast path between them. Best thing Smallville's ever done if you ask me. Chloe and Davis aren't really characters in the comics, so this is one of the first times the writers can actually develop a couple organically without any of us knowing the end. Doomsday is obviously a character, but Davis has never been a part of him in the comics. So, the story line could go anywhere.

Well anyway, you should check out the famous film "La Belle et La Bete," by Jean Cocteau made in 1946. You can watch it on youtube. In part 4/9, there's a scene where the Beast carries Beauty. It is very clear that Smallville was inspired by this scene at the end when Davis carries Chloe. They were paying homage to that film which is considered one of the best films of all time. The two scenes in comparison are almost identical, though Smallville's version of it is much shorter and condensed.

In the scene, Beauty sees the Beast, screams and faints. Just like when Chloe sees Doomsday for the first time. The Beast walks over to Beauty and gently picks her up. In a very long sequence, the Beast picks up Beauty and carries her inside the castle. Shot by shot it looks almost EXACTLY like the shot of Doomsday and Chloe. Smallville shortens it a bit. But it is the same scene. The way he walks, the way he carries her. The pause as he looks down at her. He gently lays her on a bed. Then, he brings his face close to her. (The SAME shot of Doomsday leaning in toward Chloe). Then Beauty opens her eyes.

They even got the look of Doomsday partially from inspiration from the look of the Beast in this film. This tells me a lot about their possible Beauty and the Beast direction. Other movies such as Phantom of the Opera and The Hulk also pay homage to this film. So, why would they portray the Chloe/Doomsday scene like this for no purpose? They seem to really be building them up, and Sam Witwer in an interview says that you just get the sense that Jimmy and Chloe really aren't meant to be.

So we'll see what happens! But I think the writers should take advantage of a coupling that could really attract a lot of new viewers if advertised correctly.

Chloe says in "Bride" that she finally felt free and like she could move on. Was she talking about Jimmy? Or was Brainiac subconsciously suggesting to her that she would be free soon. Did the burden leave just when Clark took her memories, or was it also when Davis kissed her?

Chloe could have subconsciously known how the night was going to end. Hence why a part of her looks so free when she smiles. It was as if she was saying to him, "I knew you'd come for me." She is obviously somewhat in a trance due to Brainiac. But that doesn't mean her feelings for Davis aren't real, even if she isn't completely herself. If she were she would be worrying about Jimmy, Clark, Lois and Lana.

I don't think Brainiac ever completely left Chloe. Hence the Brainiac flashes through out the episode. I thought it was suspicious when Chloe opened the Kryptonite toward Clark. It was as if her Brainiac side was teasing him. How did it get open later on when it was closed in a drawer?

I think Chloe is herself on one hand, but her decisions are influenced by Brainiac on the other. That's why I think she was acting so strange in this episode. But that's just my opinion! I really do think Chloe has feelings for Davis and vice versa. And their real human connection would be there even without the Brainiac and Doomsday connection. I'm hoping Davis will be able to become the "Prince" in the end. Or maybe we'll find out that Gabe Sullivan isn't "really" Chloe's Dad, and that's why Brainiac says "What are you?" Like mother, like daughter. Who's to say her mother didn't have a relationship with someone not of this planet, and Chloe is only half human? LOL. Maybe that's why she's so drawn to meteor freaks, the supernatural, Clark and Davis. :) Because she herself is different. It would certainly explain why her abilities can change. She doesn't seem like other meteor freaks. But again, maybe it is because she is different that she has feelings for Davis.


ITA!!! Everything you are saying is so right on.. I never thought of the angle that Chloe could be something else and not completely human. I love this idea. :cool:
You are very intuitive...:D

[AndiGirl]

It's quite obvious she has feelings for him, but I dont doubt she loves Jimmy. Unfortunately. :\

What I hate about this scene is she completely side stepped the question. Lois asks how she feels about him....and Chloe never answers.

I think being infected by Brainiac plays a slight role, but I also think deep down there is a connection between Davis and chloe that cant be denied.

I love Chloe to death...but she always plays the victim in these circumstances. She tells Lois that Davis has been calling...and he kissed her, and all she wants to do is walk down the aisle with the man that she loves.

She conveintantly forgets that.....1) she didnt have to listen to Davis's messages but she did 2) She CLEARLY kissed him back...so its not fair to say he kissed her and thats it. 3) Why does she want to walk down the aisle so depseratly? Perhaps once she's married Davis just wont be an issue anymore. Like getting married magically says "HA! I'm off limits now you cant force me to face my feelings for you!"

Its typical chloe in denial.....very frustrating.

So yes, she has feelings for him. Does she love him...I dont know. Are the feelings deeper then Dooms and Brainiac...definitely. Will she ever be willing to be honest with herself and explore those feelings to find out if there's more there, instead of avoiding them. Nope. :(

[Clana4Life]

AndiGirl, I hope it comes out that she does have feelings for him. I would like for that to be true. I think CHloe and Davis would be great, but I don't think we will get that. I think TPTB will play up what Chloe said to Davis after the kiss: "Whatever our connection was, it wasn't that." To me it sounds like she's saying our connection wasn't romantic, i.e., it's just Brainiac/Doomsday connection and nothing more. Now if we look at previous episodes, she was all giddy and attracted to him, but she's now saying that's all it was a mere first impression attraction because he was a cute guy in a paramedic suit. That's what Chloe said. Given the fact that she's married to Jimmy, I don't see a chance for Chloe/Davis. She doesn't seem like the type to betray her vowels, so long as she is in her right mind. Brainiac's influence might make her forget those vowels, but real-Chloe would never cheat on Jimmy and real-Chloe would probably scream at the sight of Doomsday and try to get back and found out how Jimmy is doing. But again, the Chloe/Davis fan in me really hopes that their feelings are the real thing.

[Bane]

I'd say she likes Davis, but nothing even close to love. Had he arrived sometime prior to before they became engaged, he'd have had a better shot at winning her, but now it's much too late for him to get her.

[AChloeChick]

It's quite obvious she has feelings for him, but I dont doubt she loves Jimmy. Unfortunately. :\

What I hate about this scene is she completely side stepped the question. Lois asks how she feels about him....and Chloe never answers.

I think being infected by Brainiac plays a slight role, but I also think deep down there is a connection between Davis and chloe that cant be denied.

I love Chloe to death...but she always plays the victim in these circumstances. She tells Lois that Davis has been calling...and he kissed her, and all she wants to do is walk down the aisle with the man that she loves.

She conveintantly forgets that.....1) she didnt have to listen to Davis's messages but she did 2) She CLEARLY kissed him back...so its not fair to say he kissed her and thats it. 3) Why does she want to walk down the aisle so depseratly? Perhaps once she's married Davis just wont be an issue anymore. Like getting married magically says "HA! I'm off limits now you cant force me to face my feelings for you!"

Its typical chloe in denial.....very frustrating.

So yes, she has feelings for him. Does she love him...I dont know. Are the feelings deeper then Dooms and Brainiac...definitely. Will she ever be willing to be honest with herself and explore those feelings to find out if there's more there, instead of avoiding them. Nope. :(

Great post! However, what difference does it make now because she's STUCK with Jimmy.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

[Bane]

At this stage, I actually think Davis deserves Chloe a lot more than Jimmy....too bad he happens to be the villain.

[AChloeChick]

^^^Truer words could not have been spoken!

[topping82]

I know that. But from Chloe and Lois' POV it seems like he's obsessing.

I'm going to agree to disagree about Chloe and Jimmy.

I don't think that Chloe thinks that Davis is obsessing. All she says is that he's confused. But that even could just be Chloe evading questions like she usually does. To me the only reason Lois thinks Davis is "tall, dark and scary," is because of weak anvil writing. They used to do this with Lex all the time. Make statements from the characters as if they already know the ending. But they don't, so that statement didn't ring true. I mean, Davis went out of his way to save Oliver's life. All Lois knows is that this nice paramedic seems to have a thing for Chloe. I still don't get the Davis being scary thing. Doomsday certainly is, but not Davis. He clearly hasn't done anything crazy or obsessive. Clark was more obsessive with Lana during "Promise."

And yes, we'll have to agree to disagree about Chloe and Jimmy. :)

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topping82, just wanted to say I have thoroughly enjoyed your insight to the whole beauty and the beast concept.

I agree with what you're saying!

Thank you! And I really hope they continue down this Beauty and the Beast angle!

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ITA!!! Everything you are saying is so right on.. I never thought of the angle that Chloe could be something else and not completely human. I love this idea. :cool:
You are very intuitive...:D

I always like to come up with new theories for fun (I guess it's the writer in me), and they really should answer the question of why Brainiac said, "What are you?" I don't think he'd be freaked out by a mere meteor freak. There has to be something more to her. I guess that could be one possibility. Chloe has definitely always been interested in the weird and supernatural since she was a little girl. Chloe feels easy with the two guys who are connected to Krypton. She doesn't feel as easy with humans. We all know that she loved Clark (who was the other guy she was easy with, not Jimmy), so should we not wonder if she really does have feelings for Davis because like Clark, she feels comfortable with him?

Chloe's inherent nature is to find things out of the ordinary to be beautiful. She really is the Beauty character. This type of character is usually a bit of an outsider, and is strongly empathetic. Chloe in many ways is an empath, and can connect to people like Clark and Davis, who others might not be so welcoming toward. That's why she can also connect to the meteor freaks. She's always trying to save them.

On a side note, in episode 6, Clark was going on a bit of a witch hunt with pitchforks against the meteor freaks and Davis. Chloe was right there to try and stop him. This is a clear Beauty and the Beast reference. Chloe was defending in a way, the "Beast."

Well anyway, I honestly really believe that the writers are trying to tell us that she does have feelings for Davis, because they are comparing her feelings to how she felt about Clark. And I think because she's feeling that way about someone again (who is not Clark), it scares her.

[SnowBird]

I only read through a few posts and it seems odd to me that people would want Chloe to like a man that turns into a monster. Could it be that you like the person that is playing Davis more than you like the character? If it is I think it happens all the time. I don't ever want Chloe to end up with Davis. She deserves much better. I do like how Doomsday is being played by Davis. He is sure one creepy villain.

[topping82]

It's quite obvious she has feelings for him, but I dont doubt she loves Jimmy. Unfortunately. :\

What I hate about this scene is she completely side stepped the question. Lois asks how she feels about him....and Chloe never answers.

I think being infected by Brainiac plays a slight role, but I also think deep down there is a connection between Davis and chloe that cant be denied.

I love Chloe to death...but she always plays the victim in these circumstances. She tells Lois that Davis has been calling...and he kissed her, and all she wants to do is walk down the aisle with the man that she loves.

She conveintantly forgets that.....1) she didnt have to listen to Davis's messages but she did 2) She CLEARLY kissed him back...so its not fair to say he kissed her and thats it. 3) Why does she want to walk down the aisle so depseratly? Perhaps once she's married Davis just wont be an issue anymore. Like getting married magically says "HA! I'm off limits now you cant force me to face my feelings for you!"

Its typical chloe in denial.....very frustrating.

So yes, she has feelings for him. Does she love him...I dont know. Are the feelings deeper then Dooms and Brainiac...definitely. Will she ever be willing to be honest with herself and explore those feelings to find out if there's more there, instead of avoiding them. Nope. :(

I agree, that it is very obvious she has feelings for Davis. And yes, I think she loves Jimmy, but I think it's in a different way than what she's felt for Clark and now for Davis. Jimmy is the first guy who's ever really paid attention to her. And she has a history with him. Chloe is so empathetic and forgiving that she can't let go of something even when it's stopped working. She always wants to do the right thing. It's the whole responsibility vs passion thing. She can't bear the thought of hurting someone else, even when they've hurt her. I honestly believe that Chloe's feelings for Jimmy are a lot like the character of Maggie and her fiancee in the tv show Eli Stone.

Maggie says (after she breaks off the engagement) that she agreed to marry her boyfriend because she wanted to forget Eli. She thought it would help her move on. Her boyfriend also asked her to marry him because he feared that she did have feelings for Eli, and he thought this might keep her away from him. He was jealous of Eli, just like Jimmy was jealous of Clark. Her fiance was so insecure that he ended up cheating on Maggie, just like Jimmy was going out to do that night at the bar (he was planning on it before he met said "Maxima") Maggie also pointed out that it's partially her own fault that her fiance cheated because she did have feelings for Eli. She loved him, just like Chloe's always loved Clark. Maggie thought she could make her feelings go away.

I think when Chloe said yes to Jimmy it was for many reasons. 1) She knew Clark would never come around 2) She thought it might put away her feelings for Clark 3) She thought that no one else would ever really love her

Now that Davis enters the picture, she's starting to have similar feelings for him that she's had for Clark all along. (I'm convinced that Chloe only beat the box because she had Brainiac's powers that can overpower any machine; she would never stop loving Clark).

Chloe now looks at her marriage to Jimmy (in relation to her feelings for Davis), in the same way she looked at the engagement to Jimmy (in relation to her feelings for Clark). She accepted Jimmy to hide from her feelings for Clark, and then she marries Jimmy as a way to hide her feelings for Davis. It's the same thing. And the Maggie speech in Eli Stone was very comparative in nature. Maggie loved her fiance, but she was in love with Eli, not him. I think Chloe loves Jimmy, but is in love with Clark and now Davis.

I also think that Chloe marries Jimmy because of the Brainiac influence as well. But I agree with you in the sense, that even if Brainiac and Doomsday weren't a part of them, the two of them would connect on a very real level. Sam Witwer in interviews says that Davis and Chloe are very compatible and that Davis (not Doomsday) is a love sick puppy for Chloe. It's just tragic because of the whole Doomsday thing.

I think that either 1) your theory is correct, that Chloe is hiding her feelings and playing a bit of the victim or 2) Chloe is faking, and knows the outcome subconsciously because Brainiac is inside of her. In the Lois and Chloe scene, she never says what man she wants to marry. She doesn't say Jimmy. The episode is called "Bride," and Doomsday symbolically marries her. And she smiles. So....could this mean she was actually able to walk down the aisle and marry the man she loves? :)

When Lois asks her if she's starting to have feelings for Davis. She does smile kind of smugly. And it might not be because she's avoiding answering the question because she's denying her own feelings. It could be that she already knows the answer but doesn't want anyone else to know...yet. Chloe has lost part of her memories, so would have no idea who Brainiac is. So, she might not be able to distinguish between what is herself and what is Brainiac. He could definitely be taking away some of her inhibitions, some of her sense of what is right and wrong, and could be suggesting to her in a way what to do, so as to get the outcome she wants. I don't know if that makes any sense.

I do hope that Chloe will face her feelings for Davis, because they are definitely there. I really hope they don't drop this plot line between the two of them, now that she's "married" to Jimmy. Who's to say that the vows will even count, if she said "I Do," when she wasn't in her right mind. They might end up annulling it. Marriage does seem to be the death of relationships on Smallville.

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I only read through a few posts and it seems odd to me that people would want Chloe to like a man that turns into a monster. Could it be that you like the person that is playing Davis more than you like the character? If it is I think it happens all the time. I don't ever want Chloe to end up with Davis. She deserves much better. I do like how Doomsday is being played by Davis. He is sure one creepy villain.

Because Davis is not a monster, Doomsday is. Many like it because it's similar to the whole Beauty and the Beast story line. So, why wouldn't a lot of girls like the guy who's turning into a monster? He's trying to overcome the monstrosity within. It's like Mick in Moonlight who's trying to find a cure. There's no doubt that now that Davis knows what he becomes he will try to find a way to stop it. And there will be a lot of fans rooting for him!

It's why many people enjoy the Edward/Bella, Mick/Beth, Phantom/Christine, Phoebe/Cole, Beauty/Beast, Hulk(Bruce)/Betty, etc... The list could go on. It's a tale as old as time as they say. Look how much money Twilight made over the weekend. It's the whole girl trying to save the guy thing. Davis is a good guy. The actor has even said that he's separate from Doomsday. He can't control it and it's not really his fault. Just like Edward can't control that he's a vampire. Edward has killed people, but that doesn't stop Bella from wanting to be with him.

It's the tortured soul appeal. It's why many people like the romantic vampire. It's a modern re-telling of the Beauty and the Beast story line. It's one reason why Wuthering Heights has survived as a classic all these years. Heathcliff is certainly a monster, that doesn't mean we don't root for him.

And no, it's not about the actor versus the character. Though he's fantastic in the role. I think it's silly to assume that people like a relationship because they think a guy is "hot." If that were true I'd root for that cute Australian guy in ER to be with Neela instead of Ray, based on the fact that he's well...hotter. But, I don't.

I think Chloe deserves much better than Jimmy (the wandering eye...verge of being a cheater/perve) or Clark (who has STOLEN her memories and said that that was a wedding gift). And why wouldn't some of us root for Davis? He's the first guy on this show who's ever really fought for her. All the other guys have either gone for Lois or Lana, or been wishy-washy about their feelings. Davis is direct, and he knows what he wants. He's this great guy who happens to have a beast inside of him. It's very much like Jane and Rochester. That story line is VERY Beauty and the Beast, and even includes vampiric imagery. Rochester wants Jane to save him (he sees himself as a monster), just like Davis wants Chloe to save him. He even says that he feels like she was sent to him.

Now, it's because of the whole Beauty and the Beast arc that people want Chloe and Davis together. The director of "Bride," (Jeannot Szwarc) clearly was paying homage to the famous french film La Belle et La Bete when Doomsday carries Chloe into the fortress. He uses many of the same shots. As a French director, I'm sure this is a film he is aware of.

Davis listens, Mick listens, Edward listens. They might be tortured souls, but their love is constant. And there's this sense that they might be able to overcome this darkness. Mick and Edward are pretty close. They've come to the stage where they can control their vampirism, even though they can't find a cure. Mick might have still been able to eventually. So, why can't we root for Davis to find a way to do the same thing?

Well anyway, I hope that makes sense, so you might be able to understand why there are a lot of new fans popping up for Chloe/Davis. A lot of people who don't come on this website, and who have never watched Smallville before are tuning in for the reasons I have stated above.

[Superman's Girl]

I think he's the first guy she's been (really) attracted to since Clark.

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AndiGirl, I hope it comes out that she does have feelings for him. I would like for that to be true. I think CHloe and Davis would be great, but I don't think we will get that. I think TPTB will play up what Chloe said to Davis after the kiss: "Whatever our connection was, it wasn't that." To me it sounds like she's saying our connection wasn't romantic, i.e., it's just Brainiac/Doomsday connection and nothing more. Now if we look at previous episodes, she was all giddy and attracted to him, but she's now saying that's all it was a mere first impression attraction because he was a cute guy in a paramedic suit. That's what Chloe said. Given the fact that she's married to Jimmy, I don't see a chance for Chloe/Davis. She doesn't seem like the type to betray her vowels, so long as she is in her right mind. Brainiac's influence might make her forget those vowels, but real-Chloe would never cheat on Jimmy and real-Chloe would probably scream at the sight of Doomsday and try to get back and found out how Jimmy is doing. But again, the Chloe/Davis fan in me really hopes that their feelings are the real thing.

Yeah, it's hard to have faith in Smallville writers, particularly when it comes to Chloe. She has to be the most crapped on character in television history. I certainly don't think Chloe was quite in her right mind, but she certainly will feel guilt-ridden about the possibility of leaving Jimmy especially if she thinks it's partially her fault he got slashed. But I don't think Chloe's ever been much of the screaming type, so I don't know if she would scream at him, or figure out how to stop him or if she finds out it's Davis, she'll try to find a way to save him.

I'm convinced their feelings are real, whether or not TPTB actually follow through is however another thing. They seem to really hate her character for some reason.

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I'd say she likes Davis, but nothing even close to love. Had he arrived sometime prior to before they became engaged, he'd have had a better shot at winning her, but now it's much too late for him to get her.

I think she does love him, but I don't know if she's admitted it to herself or not at this point. It's kind of unclear. And I completely agree, that they'd be together if she hadn't been engaged to Jimmy. Although, I don't think it's too late...yet. But I don't have very much faith in the TPTB on this show. It's clear the majority of fans (not all obviously) don't feel the Chimmy relationship works, yet it keeps going and going and going and going. You really have to wonder why.

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Great post! However, what difference does it make now because she's STUCK with Jimmy.

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Stuck is a good word! And I agree with your sentiment of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! :)

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At this stage, I actually think Davis deserves Chloe a lot more than Jimmy....too bad he happens to be the villain.

Davis way deserves Chloe more than Jimmy or even Clark. He's the only guy who actually "sees" her. I think that it's interesting that while Doomsday is a villain, Davis isn't. So, let's hope they take this idea somewhere good.

[Eeyore840]

It seems as if the writers have a "plan" in mind for each person before they write and there is little to no deviation from the plan, in spite of the chemestry of the actors (or lack thereof, as in the Chlimmy relationship). As a fan, it's really frustrating to see such great potential wasted.

[Bane]

Yeah, it's hard to have faith in Smallville writers, particularly when it comes to Chloe. She has to be the most crapped on character in television history. I certainly don't think Chloe was quite in her right mind, but she certainly will feel guilt-ridden about the possibility of leaving Jimmy especially if she thinks it's partially her fault he got slashed. But I don't think Chloe's ever been much of the screaming type, so I don't know if she would scream at him, or figure out how to stop him or if she finds out it's Davis, she'll try to find a way to save him.

I'm convinced their feelings are real, whether or not TPTB actually follow through is however another thing. They seem to really hate her character for some reason.

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I think she does love him, but I don't know if she's admitted it to herself or not at this point. It's kind of unclear. And I completely agree, that they'd be together if she hadn't been engaged to Jimmy. Although, I don't think it's too late...yet. But I don't have very much faith in the TPTB on this show. It's clear the majority of fans (not all obviously) don't feel the Chimmy relationship works, yet it keeps going and going and going and going. You really have to wonder why.

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Stuck is a good word! And I agree with your sentiment of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! :)

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Davis way deserves Chloe more than Jimmy or even Clark. He's the only guy who actually "sees" her. I think that it's interesting that while Doomsday is a villain, Davis isn't. So, let's hope they take this idea somewhere good.


I don't think she loves him, I just don't think love can develop that quickly, but it could lead to that if it got the chance. I'd also like them to expand on that idea because Davis acknowledges Chloe all the time. Jimmy acts like a douche pretty much all the time, and Clark ignored the fact that she loved him for a long time. I find it ironic that he's showed he has love for her this season, but she doesn'tf eel the same way now. He had chance after chance, and blew them all. Davis hasn't had that chance yet.

[SnowBird]

I like the Beauty and the Beast story but as far as I know the Beast isn't a killer like Doomsday. In fact DD is a mass murderer and a threat to the world so I still don't understand why Chloe should be paired with him. As far as Davis being so likeable and the other leading men having so many faults, Davis hasn't been on Smallville long enough to have stepped on any SV fan's toes. If he could have as many years on SV as the other characters then I'm sure he would be in trouble with certain fans as well. I know the attraction to the bad boy as I married one and I got to tame him down so he made a good husband in time. After looking back, I would rather have started out married life with a good guy like Jimmy. First of all I'm a Chloe fan and I only want the best for her.

[AndrewVDk]

I think he's the first guy she's been (really) attracted to since Clark.

Yeah! :D

[superhippie2000]

i think chloes connection is cause of brainiac but she doesnt know so she feels that the feeling she has may be love.

[ginnyfan]

I like the Beauty and the Beast story but as far as I know the Beast isn't a killer like Doomsday. In fact DD is a mass murderer and a threat to the world so I still don't understand why Chloe should be paired with him. As far as Davis being so likeable and the other leading men having so many faults, Davis hasn't been on Smallville long enough to have stepped on any SV fan's toes. If he could have as many years on SV as the other characters then I'm sure he would be in trouble with certain fans as well. I know the attraction to the bad boy as I married one and I got to tame him down so he made a good husband in time. After looking back, I would rather have started out married life with a good guy like Jimmy. First of all I'm a Chloe fan and I only want the best for her.

I agree with this. I'm a Chloe fan and I want what's best for her too.

I had some appreciation for Chloe/Davis because before his transformation, it seemed to me that his choice was to be a caring person who devoted his life to helping people as an EMT. The Doomsday side is his... programming... what he was created to be. So... I suppose I separate the two when I think about Chloe/Davis. I enjoyed them before it was clear to either of them what he was.

Maybe... the Doomsday side of him isn't his nature. Maybe it's something that can be cured... like the Brainiac side of Chloe. The little boy in Phantom can't be blamed for the people he killed when the monster took over... I agree with you that Doomsday is not like the beast. I can see why people make the comparison but... he's more like the fairytale wolf in behavior.

[Bane]

I don't think the attraction has anything to do with Brainiac....the smile at the end may be because of Brainiac, but definitely not everything else we've seen.

Also, I kind of agree with the above post, but Doomsday can't be cured. It's simply the way he was built. He was built to become a monster, and that's the exact path he seems to be on, even though he doesn't want to accept it.

[Kalista]

i think chloes connection is cause of brainiac but she doesnt know so she feels that the feeling she has may be love.

I think that Chloe is genuinely attracted to Davis but the Kryptonian connection may be making her think that it is something deeper or similar to what she has with Clark. Then there are his similarities to Clark. Davis has handsome chiseled features, dark hair, he's nice and he helps people.

Also, Davis is Doomsday. He can't be compared to the boy who was inhabited by the phantom because he isn't possesed. Davis now knows that he's murdering people and he's covering up his crimes. I know it would be pointless to turn himself into the authorities they wouldn't be able to contain him once he transformed into DD. He seems to be genuinely upset about his crimes and that's what makes him a tragic figure. But I think that is also a sign that there is no hope for Davis to ever become "good". If the writers plan to have DD kill Clark, I would never want to see Chloe with him even if he is "redeemed" in some way.

[topping82]

I think he's the first guy she's been (really) attracted to since Clark.

Yup. :)

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It seems as if the writers have a "plan" in mind for each person before they write and there is little to no deviation from the plan, in spite of the chemestry of the actors (or lack thereof, as in the Chlimmy relationship). As a fan, it's really frustrating to see such great potential wasted.

I agree. This seems to be a major problem Smallville writers have. They really should pay attention to chemistry. And sometimes what works on paper doesn't always transfer well to the screen. Greg Berlanti is really good at changing directions when something doesn't work. He almost always gets his shows right because he does pay attention to chemistry, and he is willing to change his plans as he goes along. Smallville should learn from him.

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I don't think she loves him, I just don't think love can develop that quickly, but it could lead to that if it got the chance. I'd also like them to expand on that idea because Davis acknowledges Chloe all the time. Jimmy acts like a douche pretty much all the time, and Clark ignored the fact that she loved him for a long time. I find it ironic that he's showed he has love for her this season, but she doesn'tf eel the same way now. He had chance after chance, and blew them all. Davis hasn't had that chance yet.

They've known each other for a few months. That seems like enough time to me to develop feelings of love for someone. But each person is different when it comes to time and how long it takes to fall in love. Davis is clearly in love with her. Sam Witwer has even said so in interviews. So if it's long enough for him, how come it can't be long enough for her? But that's just me.

I totally agree that Jimmy acts like a douche all the time. And Clark has missed his chance time after time. And I hope Davis and Chloe do get a chance. :)

[borednow]

Yes, this feeling is called fear.

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I like the Beauty and the Beast story but as far as I know the Beast isn't a killer like Doomsday. In fact DD is a mass murderer and a threat to the world so I still don't understand why Chloe should be paired with him. As far as Davis being so likeable and the other leading men having so many faults, Davis hasn't been on Smallville long enough to have stepped on any SV fan's toes. If he could have as many years on SV as the other characters then I'm sure he would be in trouble with certain fans as well. I know the attraction to the bad boy as I married one and I got to tame him down so he made a good husband in time. After looking back, I would rather have started out married life with a good guy like Jimmy. First of all I'm a Chloe fan and I only want the best for her.

There are many different ways of telling the Beauty and the Beast story. And in many of those versions the "Beast" is a killer. Let's look at the Hulk. He "kills" because he can't control his abilities yet. It's like Davis when he blacks out. The character of Betty still sees the beauty in Bruce/the Hulk, even while he's a "monster." King Kong is a classic Beauty and the Beast story line. And Kong Kills. What about the Phantom of the Opera? Edward in Twilight? Mick in Moonlight? Angel? They've all killed. Yet they fall for the "Beauty" character. Are they not looking to be saved?

Obviously Chloe and Davis are not exact replicas of Beauty and the Beast. She's not going to literally go stay in some castle with Davis (well I guess kind of since she's in the Fortress with him). They are not the characters, but rather they are like the characters, and this is being done on purpose. The writers instead are using themes or motifs from the story line. It's about trying to overcome the monster within. Like Davis and like the Beast.

Why else would the French director Jeannot Szwarc of "Bride" pay homage to the famous scene from the French film La Belle et La Bete (aka Beauty and the Beast) at the end of the episode? This isn't the cartoon. Kind of like how the story of the real Little Mermaid is nothing like the Disney movie. It's much darker.

Well anyway, in the story (not the movie, although the French film is pretty close) of Beauty and the Beast, the Beast has two sides. The Prince and the Beast. Just like Davis has two sides. One, Davis obviously (the prince) and Doomsday (the Beast). It's not either's fault that they were turned into the beast. Faora is the evil fairy of the story. Kind of similar names too, LOL. Well anyway, it is because of Faora and Zod that Doomsday exists, just like it is because of the fairy that the Prince becomes the Beast.

Each night Belle stays at the castle, the Beast asks her to marry him. And each night she refuses. And then every night she dreams about a Prince. She thinks the Beast has stashed him somewhere, and goes in search of him to save him. Kind of like how Chloe is convinced that Davis can't be a killer. He can't be the Beast. In her dreams, the Prince asks her why she refuses him. She doesn't make the connection that they are the same, but different. Davis has already appeared in her dreams, and she's refused him. Similar themes. Plus, she hasn't connected the two yet...that we know of.

Skipping ahead, toward the end of the story. Belle leaves the castle, becomes caught up in her family life (who are all crapping on her and using her) and forgets about making it back to the castle. She looks in her magic mirror, and sees that the Beast is dying. She rushes back only to find him dead. With a healing tear (sound like Chloe much?) she cries over him and reveals her love. The tear heals him and transforms him into the Prince. His true self.

Davis is more like the Prince. He can't control the Doomsday side of himself. It's separate, although a part of him. Also, Doomsday is the killer, not Davis. And we don't know what the writers are going to do with this version of Doomsday. In one version of the comics, Doomsday becomes a hero. He feels love, humanity, compassion, which this Doomsday so far has. So could it not be closer to that version? And who's to say that Davis isn't a vessel for the monster Faora and Zod created?

Chloe and Davis are actually closer to this story than many other shows/movies/books, which I find interesting. It's not about being exact, it's about a recurrent idea.

Also, I don't even think that Davis is a bad boy. He's a nice guy. He helps people. The Doomsday side of him is not his fault. He can't control it. It's more primal. Will he be able to control it in the future? I don't know.

That said, I don't think Jimmy's all that much of a nice guy. He has too much of the cheating personality for my taste.

And I agree that Davis hasn't had a chance to step on too many toes yet. But he has been the only guy that has ever really fought for Chloe on the show without being all wishy-washy or going for Lana or Lois. There's no doubt in my mind that his feelings are sincere for Chloe, and vice versa.

I too, am a Chloe fan and want the best for her. And I certainly don't see Chimmy as being the solution.

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i think chloes connection is cause of brainiac but she doesnt know so she feels that the feeling she has may be love.

I think there are two sides to Chloe's connection to Davis.

1) The Brainiac/Doomsday connection
2) The real human connection between herself and Davis; They are drawn to each for more than just the Kryptonian connection. There's a real bond between them.

I think they would have feelings for each other even without the first side. But yes, she does seem to be having feelings of love, although I think it's more than just because they are both "confused."

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I agree with this. I'm a Chloe fan and I want what's best for her too.

I had some appreciation for Chloe/Davis because before his transformation, it seemed to me that his choice was to be a caring person who devoted his life to helping people as an EMT. The Doomsday side is his... programming... what he was created to be. So... I suppose I separate the two when I think about Chloe/Davis. I enjoyed them before it was clear to either of them what he was.

Maybe... the Doomsday side of him isn't his nature. Maybe it's something that can be cured... like the Brainiac side of Chloe. The little boy in Phantom can't be blamed for the people he killed when the monster took over... I agree with you that Doomsday is not like the beast. I can see why people make the comparison but... he's more like the fairytale wolf in behavior.

I agree in the sense that I think Davis is a very caring person, and can't be blamed for the actions of his Doomsday side. It's certainly very possible that Davis is a vessel of some kind. What if Faora came to Earth, and got pregnant, had Davis, and then later put the monster inside him as a child? He did say the black outs started when he was little. Maybe she wanted Doomsday to be half human so he'd be more intelligent?

Although, I still have to disagree that Davis/Doomsday isn't like the Beast. The actual director of the episode made a pretty clear comparison to the Beast, so I guess I'm not the only one who sees the correlation. The shot of Doomsday carrying Chloe is paying homage to the scene of Beast carrying Belle into the castle. They use many of the same shots, close ups, zooms, choreography, etc...The director did it on purpose. Why? The comparison is undeniable once you've seen that scene from La Belle et La Bete. I'm trying to say that they are not exactly the story of Beauty and the Beast, rather the writers are using the same themes from this famous fairy tale. These themes and this story can be told in many ways.

That said, the wolf is more scheming than Doomsday. Although yes, there is a primal side to the wolf like Doomsday. So I can see that. But there is no Prince or Davis inside of the wolf, and as far I've seen Davis hasn't eaten Chloe yet. J-K. :) I also think that because Davis has two sides, I see it as being closer to the Beast character. I think Doomsday/Davis is a mix of the Prince, the Beast and the different versions of Doomsday from the comics. Again, I want to point out that this choice by the director makes me believe that Chloe has feelings for Davis and even the Beast. Even though Chloe might not realize she has these feelings yet, a lot like Belle/Beauty, that doesn't mean she won't in the future. It did take Belle to the end of the story to admit it to herself.

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I don't think the attraction has anything to do with Brainiac....the smile at the end may be because of Brainiac, but definitely not everything else we've seen.

Also, I kind of agree with the above post, but Doomsday can't be cured. It's simply the way he was built. He was built to become a monster, and that's the exact path he seems to be on, even though he doesn't want to accept it.

I agree that the attraction isn't related to Brainiac. They really do have feelings for each other.

But when it relates to the "cure," was Doomsday the son of Faora and Zod in the comics? No, so I don't see any problem with them changing the story a bit.

So, it wouldn't be curing Doomsday, it would be curing Davis from having Doomsday be a part of him. That can't be ruled out yet I don't think. They could become separate for all we know. And even if Davis is built to be a monster, can he not learn to eventually control it like The Hulk? Right now he can't. But who knows about the future.

Also it could be more tragic like you said that he's becoming a monster and he can't stop it. That however, doesn't stop the writers from using the Beauty and the Beast themes. The different versions of this tale (using the themes anyway) don't always end happily. It would be a tragedy for Davis if he can't stop himself from completely turning into a monster. I don't think he'll ever accept it though, as long as he's consciously Davis. He'd always be trying to find a way to stop it. Even if his efforts might prove to be in vain.

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I think that Chloe is genuinely attracted to Davis but the Kryptonian connection may be making her think that it is something deeper or similar to what she has with Clark. Then there are his similarities to Clark. Davis has handsome chiseled features, dark hair, he's nice and he helps people.

Also, Davis is Doomsday. He can't be compared to the boy who was inhabited by the phantom because he isn't possesed. Davis now knows that he's murdering people and he's covering up his crimes. I know it would be pointless to turn himself into the authorities they wouldn't be able to contain him once he transformed into DD. He seems to be genuinely upset about his crimes and that's what makes him a tragic figure. But I think that is also a sign that there is no hope for Davis to ever become "good". If the writers plan to have DD kill Clark, I would never want to see Chloe with him even if he is "redeemed" in some way.

I think that she is genuinely attracted too. Although, I think it is deeper and more real than you do. I think she is feeling for Davis what she felt for Clark in the past. I honestly don't think it's fake.

But I think he can be compared because Davis isn't aware when he's killing. Kind of like Lana when she was possessed by the witch. Her body did the killing, she covered up her tracks, but was she responsible?

It's the Doomsday side of himself that kills Clark eventually, not Davis. The actor Sam Witwer believes that they are very separate. I tend to agree. You can really see that that is the way he is playing it off.

I think that Davis is good, and therefore doesn't have to become good. He already is. This isn't like Lex who slowly descends into darkness. With Doomsday it's much more primal, the need to survive, rather than about being evil. So Davis will never be responsible for killing Clark. But I can see that because Doomsday is inside of him, that they wouldn't want to see Chloe with him. But, at this point, after Clark stole her memories and then called it his wedding gift, I say that Davis just deserves her so much more. He'd never do that to her. But that's just me.

And I love how you brought up the redemption theme. It reminded me of one of my favorite novels, Jane Eyre, that also encompasses several of the Beauty and the Beast motifs. Rochester sees himself as a monster and doesn't think he deserves redemption. BUT...he's going to go after Jane anyway. Just like Davis. And Davis I think does deserve redemption, because it's not even his fault. Rochester says that it's not his fault for falling off the right path, but it's his fault for staying on it. It's not Davis's fault that he's Doomsday, but it could be his fault if he doesn't try to do something about it. And when he called Chloe to help him (like Rochester asking for her help), he did seem to want to do something about it. Rochester always confesses to Jane as well, just like Davis always finds himself confessing to Chloe. Well anyway, I just thought that was an interesting comparison.

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Yes, this feeling is called fear.

She didn't look that afraid to me! :)

[SnowBird]

There are some in the know about beasts and I'm really not up on most of them. What I do know is that in Beauty and the Beast, the prince had a way out so he could come back to his original self. From what I know about Doomsday, he only gets worse with each death and never goes back to his original form. He is doomed to be a monster as long as he lives. Chloe will never be able to fall in love with Davis/Doomsday so he can turn back into a man or stay a man. This brings me to whether Chloe is in love with any other man besides Jimmy. I think she proved that she is only in love with Jimmy when hooked up to the lie detector machine. I do believe that it was Chloe and not Brainiac that gave her answer to the jeweler. As much as it would be a nice romantic notion to have a happy ending, Davis/Doomsday will never come with a Happily Ever After. The End

[topping82]

There are some in the know about beasts and I'm really not up on most of them. What I do know is that in Beauty and the Beast, the prince had a way out so he could come back to his original self. From what I know about Doomsday, he only gets worse with each death and never goes back to his original form. He is doomed to be a monster as long as he lives. Chloe will never be able to fall in love with Davis/Doomsday so he can turn back into a man or stay a man. This brings me to whether Chloe is in love with any other man besides Jimmy. I think she proved that she is only in love with Jimmy when hooked up to the lie detector machine. I do believe that it was Chloe and not Brainiac that gave her answer to the jeweler. As much as it would be a nice romantic notion to have a happy ending, Davis/Doomsday will never come with a Happily Ever After. The End

How are we to know what they will do with this Doomsday? I mean Doomsday was never human at all or was ever created by Zod. So, since they're departing from that, who's to say they won't depart in other ways? That said, I do think it will end up being tragic. That doesn't mean tragedy equals no love or romantic feelings. And that certainly doesn't mean that the Beauty and the Beast element isn't there just because it doesn't end happily. Though it would be nice if it could. Honestly, I wonder if anyone has actually checked out that scene in La Belle et La Bete when Beast carries Beauty and compared it the end of Bride. Because my question is, why would the director and writers make this clear comparison for no purpose?

Also, Brainiac could easily have beat that machine, that is what he does. And Chloe, even conscious as herself, could have beat that box because she was using her new Brainiac powers. Somehow I doubt that all of a sudden she wouldn't use her abilities anymore when she's in dire straights. Brainiac wouldn't want his vessel electrocuted. We all know she loves Clark, always will. At this point in episode four I don't think she was in love with Davis, but she was attracted to him.

I don't think this was proof she only loves Jimmy though. It's not proven because she has Brainiac inside of her. Unless there's proof otherwise (like the writers come out and say that Chloe only loves Jimmy and will never love anyone else; which would just be lightswitch BS) I will never believe it. And I guess even if they did say it, I'd think they were off their rockers. But that's just me.. :)

[SnowBird]

I don't think this was proof she only loves Jimmy though. It's not proven because she has Brainiac inside of her. Unless there's proof otherwise (like the writers come out and say that Chloe only loves Jimmy and will never love anyone else; which would just be lightswitch BS) I will never believe it. And I guess even if they did say it, I'd think they were off their rockers. But that's just me.. :)

There are different forms of love. Love for family, children, friends and soulmate. Loving a mate is being "IN LOVE" in my book. The jeweler asked Chloe, "Are you In Love with anyone else." Asking her if she was "In Love" were the key words. She does love Clark but she isn't "In Love" with Clark. She might have an attraction to Davis but she isn't "In Love" with him, and that is how she passed the lie detector test. Another point is, when Lois was asked about Clark, the way it was stated was, "Do you Love this man." Chloe was never asked point blank if she loved Jimmy. Could be a loophole for Chloe being "In Love" with Jimmy. We may find out in the future about who Chloe will really be "In Love" with if it isn't Jimmy.

[topping82]

There are different forms of love. Love for family, children, friends and soulmate. Loving a mate is being "IN LOVE" in my book. The jeweler asked Chloe, "Are you In Love with anyone else." Asking her if she was "In Love" were the key words. She does love Clark but she isn't "In Love" with Clark. She might have an attraction to Davis but she isn't "In Love" with him, and that is how she passed the lie detector test. Another point is, when Lois was asked about Clark, the way it was stated was, "Do you Love this man." Chloe was never asked point blank if she loved Jimmy. Could be a loophole for Chloe being "In Love" with Jimmy. We may find out in the future about who Chloe will really be "In Love" with if it isn't Jimmy.

Oh, I agree that there are different forms of love, but I don't think there's a lot of evidence that Chloe isn't in love with Clark. Almost all of the evidence from the ENTIRE series points to otherwise. Even episode 2 of season 8 it's clear Chloe's still in love with Clark. When he finds out she's getting married to Jimmy, Chloe (as Allison Mack portrays it), wants him to say "something." But typical Clark doesn't. When he says he wants her to be happy and then hugs her, Chloe's face falls when she hugs him. Pay attention to subtext. There is more to film than dialogue. You can say one thing, and mean something else. It's one of the biggest rules in screenwriting. And then when you get to actual directing and acting, subtext plays an even larger role.

The same thing happens with Chloe with the Fever Letter. She wants him to say something, but again he doesn't. There's no doubt that Chloe could beat that box. She will always love Clark, no matter who she ends up with. She's a lot like Eowyn in Lord of the Rings. And Tolkien said about the character of Eowyn in his notes that he didn't think that even though she ends up with Faramir her feelings would ever really change for Aragorn. She would always love him. And Tolkien believes you can love more than one person. I agree with him. I think it's the same with Chloe.

And I agree, in Committed I don't think she's in love with Davis yet. Just attracted. Now, who knows? She did skirt around answering any questions about her feelings for him. When Davis called, she looked like she wanted to talk to him. She even got caught on camera by Jimmy, and then she put on a fake smile. Chloe does that a lot. She hides her feelings.

Another shot that shows she didn't look all that excited to marry Jimmy, was when she was standing in front of the mirror. Lois interrupts her unhappy looking trance, and she quickly throws on another fake smile.

And it is true that the guy in Committed never actually said what man she was in love with. So, it's possible she could have tricked the question. And imagined Clark. But I still think she just used her ability. I mean why wouldn't she? Did she want to test herself and risk getting electrocuted? I doubt Brainiac would let her.

Still, I really do think we'll see more of Chloe's feelings developing for Davis in the future. Or it's possible Smallville will drop it like they do everything else, and force Chimmy down everyone's throats forever. The worst couple on television in my opinion.

[The Krypton Knight]

I didn't say they would kiss. I said he contemplates kissing her. If you watch, he pushes her face toward him. He didn't actually kiss her. And yes, Davis will definitely kiss Chloe again. At least it would be a cop out if he didn't.

And she's supposed to be his bride. He's taking her to the alter. It's symbolic of a wedding. She's the Bride of Doomsday. Chloe even mentions Bride of Frankenstein in the episode, which is secretly what she seems to prefer.

And no, Chloe was not just smiling because she was Brainiac. She's still there, just like Davis is inside of the monster. There was a connection there. She looked at him as if she knew he'd come for her.

This is a classic monster love story between beauty and the beast. They were referencing classic movie and literary moments. I don't think Doomsday is in love with Brainiac. Now, that would be ridiculous.

If you watch the whole episode, pay attention to Chloe's facial expressions. She wants to be with Davis. It is what she is thinking about. When she's alone she clearly doesn't look like someone who wants to get married, but then as soon as someone else enters, her face changes and she puts on a fake smile.

I agree that Brainiac is in her and its influencing her. But I don't think it's only Brainiac that smiled.

The title gives away the whole meaning of the whole episode leading up to that scene. Chloe wants to be with the monster. She wants to be Mrs. Doomsday in a sense. Although, I think she is in a bit of a dream state as she's being taken over by Brainiac. The transformation is definitely not complete though.

I think your making alot of assumptions here, and taking nuanced facial expressions and speculation as facts. I don't see how it's a slam dunk that Chloe is supposed to be the "Bride Of Doomsday". Everyone keeps talking about an "Altar", but it's just a tableau in the Fortress. Peeps are reading a little too much into that, if you ask me. If he was going to marry her, he would bring her to a church, lol, not an Ice Fortress that he's never been to. Doomsday brought her to the Fortress in order to fulfull a plan with/at the behest of Brianiac, IMO, nothing more. I believe that it is indeed Braniac that is smiling, through Chloe.

I understand your points, and you make a good argument, but I don't agree.

[umm]

Lois asked her point blank if she was starting to have feelings for Davis and she bypassed the question. She could have said "no, of course not" but she didn't. I kind of wonder about that. Instead she said: "All I want to do is marry the man I love." I think she is being evasive. I'm not totally convinced that she doesn't have feelings for Davis just because she married Jimmy. Maybe she's in denial.


At this point it doesn't matter whether she has feelings for Davis! As soon as Braniac is exorcorsied out of her and Davis is outed as Doomsday, she will be finding a way to erradicate Davis from the face of the earth!:\:)

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I always thought she did. But, now, with Braniac, they'll be best buds! :\

[alejandrita439]

it think that in other episodes she felt atraction to him

[SnowBird]

Oh, I agree that there are different forms of love, but I don't think there's a lot of evidence that Chloe isn't in love with Clark. Almost all of the evidence from the ENTIRE series points to otherwise.

For Chloe's sake I hope she has moved on from wanting Clark. She is going to have major heartache if she hasn't. Chloe is now a married woman and I know who Clark is going to end with and it isn't Chloe. It's time to move on.

[topping82]

I think your making alot of assumptions here, and taking nuanced facial expressions and speculation as facts. I don't see how it's a slam dunk that Chloe is supposed to be the "Bride Of Doomsday". Everyone keeps talking about an "Altar", but it's just a tableau in the Fortress. Peeps are reading a little too much into that, if you ask me. If he was going to marry her, he would bring her to a church, lol, not an Ice Fortress that he's never been to. Doomsday brought her to the Fortress in order to fulfull a plan with/at the behest of Brianiac, IMO, nothing more. I believe that it is indeed Braniac that is smiling, through Chloe.

I understand your points, and you make a good argument, but I don't agree.

You don't have to agree, but I've never said anything was facts, rather possibilities based on evidence.

The episode is called Bride, which is a clear reference to Bride of Frankenstein. The scene was very symbolically played out. And it's definitely not reading too much into it, because there is a large amount of evidence to support this theory. Chloe even calls herself jokingly the Bride of Frankenstein.

And the monsters in classic films don't usually bring the girls back to a church, they bring them to their lair. And they don't usually literally marry them (although that can happen). It's usually more symbolic. And he did lay her on what symbolically would be an alter. People don't have to agree, but the evidence is there. And shouldn't be ruled out. Of course, Davis and Chloe are not married. That's not the point. The point is that symbolically Doomsday stole the "Bride" away to take her for himself, and then carried her into the fortress in monster classic style (while paying homage to the famous romantic French epic La Belle et La Bete) and laid her gently on the alter. Now, how much is Chloe and how much is Brainiac, we don't know. But the filmmakers used all the famous imagery, and it certainly wasn't done by accident.

So that is why people see Chloe as the Bride of Doomsday. I really think that was kind of the whole point. The title foreshadows the cliffhanger in my opinion. Everything was leading up to that end.

[Kalista]

Amber you might enjoy this video.

Smallville Bride Review/ Chlark/Clois/Chlavis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVV9Sno_H58


Honestly, I wonder if anyone has actually checked out that scene in La Belle et La Bete when Beast carries Beauty and compared it the end of Bride. Because my question is, why would the director and writers make this clear comparison for no purpose?


That scene mirrored the scene from Abyss where Clark carries Chloe to the FOS.
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4203508&postcount=2003

[topping82]

For Chloe's sake I hope she has moved on from wanting Clark. She is going to have major heartache if she hasn't. Chloe is now a married woman and I know who Clark is going to end with and it isn't Chloe. It's time to move on.

It's not about moving on. I think she has let him go at this point. But some people once they love someone, they always love them. And yes, we know who Clark ends up with (and honestly I don't care). That said, Lana was married to Lex and that didn't stick. I certainly don't think the marriage to Jimmy will either, especially since the majority of fans aren't on board with Chimmy.

Also, why do people always say that Chloe and the Chlark fans for that matter need to move on? Give me a break. It's a show. The writers can show that Chloe loves Clark without actually being with him if they want, and we can like whoever we want as a couple as well. There is such a thing as unrequited love. Look at "Tale of Two Cities." It's not pathetic that Sydney is in love with the girl who is married. In fact he sacrifices his own life for her happiness. It's tragic and sad yes, but I don't think anyone reading the book was like, "move on."

And I personally like Chlark and Chlavis. I think at this point the Chimmy marriage should end, and Chloe should slowly start leaning toward Davis. I think she has feelings for him, and vice versa.

But when it comes to Clark, in a sense I agree. Chloe should always love Clark, but she should also let go of the jerk that stole her memories and called them a wedding gift. And she should go right on to Davis, the only guy on this entire series who has ever really liked Chloe without being wishy washy (even off screen Jimmy ditched Chloe after he took her virginity) or going for Lana or Lois first. But that's just me. I think we'll have to agree to disagree about the whole Chloe/Davis/Clark/Jimmy thing. To me if they keep the whole Chimmy wedding permanent it will be like the writers are gloating and spitting on the face of the majority of Chloe fans. Like saying, "ha," now Chloe can NEVER be with Clark or Davis or any other guy for that matter because she's married to Jimmy FOREVER. And they'd finally get to take her out of the way completely as being a leading lady. She'd always just be the sidekick married to the other sidekick. Clark and Lois fans are going to get what they want, so why do they have to stick the nail in the coffin with Chimmy? They are clearly playing up Chloe and Davis, so I'm really hoping they won't drop it. But when it comes to how Chloe is treated on this show, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they did.

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Amber you might enjoy this video.

Smallville Bride Review/ Chlark/Clois/Chlavis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVV9Sno_H58



That scene mirrored the scene from Abyss where Clark carries Chloe to the FOS.
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4203508&postcount=2003

Thanks for the link. I'm not sure if I understand all the points. Perhaps you could explain them to me? I don't know if I understood what the Lois vs Davis meant. I did think that Chloe's facial expressions through out the episode indicate Brainiac was still influencing her through out the wedding.

I agree that the scene was meant to parallel Chloe/Clark in a sense. Light versus dark. But the end scene was also meant to pay homage to Jean Cocteau's film La Belle et La Bete.

Here's a link to a video my sister and I made that compares Chloe and Davis to other Beauty and the Beast type characters. We actually intermingle the La Belle et La Bete scene with Chloe and Doomsday in the fortress. So, for those interested they can see a little bit of the scene we've been talking about. We also compared different Chloe/Davis scenes to other films and shows as well through out the video. The video's really meant to be a tribute to these Beauty and the Beast type of characters, which include Chloe and Davis.

People can also see why we think Chloe might have feelings for Davis and vice versa. : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwBdMb8vDog

Here's a link to the actual scene when Beast carries Belle into the castle in La Belle et La Bete (I really recommend comparing it directly to the scene at the end of Bride as well between Chloe and Doomsday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q20FvyJquQ

[Kalista]

I did think that Chloe's facial expressions through out the episode indicate Brainiac was still influencing her through out the wedding.

Sent you a PM.

Agreed. Who stands with their back to a mirror in a trance like state? I could understand it if she was staring at herself in the mirror and became lost in thought but that would only make sense if she was actually facing the mirror.


But the end scene was also meant to pay homage to Jean Cocteau's film La Belle et La Bete.

Thanks for the links. Your sisters video was really nice, although, I didn't recognize all of the characters. I agree that the imagery is similar and it's really interesting that Belle's gown is transformed into a wedding gown as he crosses the threshold into what appears to be a bridal chamber and lays her on the bed.

As I mentioned before, there is some genuine attraction between the two but I don't think the story is setting Davis up to be Chloe's happy ending. Davis has some questionable qualities. For example he doesn't have any respect for Chloe's boundaries including her relationship with Jimmy, Isis, etc. Initially, Davis backed off when Chloe told him she was engaged but only for a short period of time. He began to question the relationship as if he wanted to see just how devoted Chloe was to the relationship. That's why he questioned Chloe about not telling Jimmy about her newfound intelligence. He let himself in at Isis when Chloe wasn't there. He has nothing but contempt for anyone except Chloe. Rewatch the scene with Jimmy and Davis in Prey and take note of Davis' facial expressions as they range from annoyed to disgusted throughout his conversation with Jimmy. The only time Davis lightens up in that scene is when Jimmy asks him to grant him the favor "for" Chloe. Then, look at Davis' face as he looks at Jimmy walk away.

One of the biggest clues that Davis is not a good guy can be witnessed in the scene with Clark and Davis when Clark confronts him about the murders. Davis suspects that he is involved with those murders and he knows that Clark isn't responsible. Yet, he tries to implicate Clark when he knows Clark isn't involved. Finally, Davis was wrong when he tried to seduce Chloe just days before her wedding. He's not willing to step back and respect her feelings even though she told him that she didn't want to be unfaithful to Jimmy. Chloe is loyal, sometimes at her own expense, but Davis should have respected her wishes. I know that some Chloe fans would like for Davis to be the one for her but the story tells me that he isn't.

ETA: I don't think that Davis and Doomsday are separate. Davis is Doomsday IMO. I think Davis is conscious of this now. Because if they were truly separate, then why would DD say Chloe's name and grab her face in the same affectionate manner that Davis did before he kissed her?

[topping82]

Sent you a PM.

Agreed. Who stands with their back to a mirror in a trance like state? I could understand it if she was staring at herself in the mirror and became lost in thought but that would only make sense if she was actually facing the mirror.



Thanks for the links. Your sisters video was really nice, although, I didn't recognize all of the characters. I agree that the imagery is similar and it's really interesting that Belle's gown is transformed into a wedding gown as he crosses the threshold into what appears to be a bridal chamber and lays her on the bed.

As I mentioned before, there is some genuine attraction between the two but I don't think the story is setting Davis up to be Chloe's happy ending. Davis has some questionable qualities. For example he doesn't have any respect for Chloe's boundaries including her relationship with Jimmy, Isis, etc. Initially, Davis backed off when Chloe told him she was engaged but only for a short period of time. He began to question the relationship as if he wanted to see just how devoted Chloe was to the relationship. That's why he questioned Chloe about not telling Jimmy about her newfound intelligence. He let himself in at Isis when Chloe wasn't there. He has nothing but contempt for anyone except Chloe. Rewatch the scene with Jimmy and Davis in Prey and take note of Davis' facial expressions as they range from annoyed to disgusted throughout his conversation with Jimmy. The only time Davis lightens up in that scene is when Jimmy asks him to grant him the favor "for" Chloe. Then, look at Davis' face as he looks at Jimmy walk away.

One of the biggest clues that Davis is not a good guy can be witnessed in the scene with Clark and Davis when Clark confronts him about the murders. Davis suspects that he is involved with those murders and he knows that Clark isn't responsible. Yet, he tries to implicate Clark when he knows Clark isn't involved. Finally, Davis was wrong when he tried to seduce Chloe just days before her wedding. He's not willing to step back and respect her feelings even though she told him that she didn't want to be unfaithful to Jimmy. Chloe is loyal, sometimes at her own expense, but Davis should have respected her wishes. I know that some Chloe fans would like for Davis to be the one for her but the story tells me that he isn't.

ETA: I don't think that Davis and Doomsday are separate. Davis is Doomsday IMO. I think Davis is conscious of this now. Because if they were truly separate, then why would DD say Chloe's name and grab her face in the same affectionate manner that Davis did before he kissed her?

You're welcome. My sister and I both made the video for fun. And we like these types of characters. And yeah, Chloe clearly wasn't in her right mind. She was faking when Lois interrupted her.

That said, I don't think that it's all about setting up Chloe and Davis to be a happy ending. Many of these Beauty and the Beast type tales don't end up happily, though some do. It's more likely to end up tragic. Though I think it could still be portrayed romantically.

I also don't think that Davis's character is meant to be a douche to be honest. Sam Witwer has even said that he doesn't see his character that way. He's also said that he sees the Davis side of himself to be completely separate from Doomsday. Doomsday is more primal. Although it does seem that part of Davis's humanity has seeped through to Doomsday. But Davis is a good guy who's becoming everything he doesn't want to be. It's not like Lex with a a gradual descent into darkness. That is his own fault. Davis is not evil. He's not making choices that make him a villain. The Doomsday side of himself comes out because he feels threatened and he's trying to survive. The actor has said that Davis can't be blamed for what Doomsday does. He sees them as separate for the most part. I agree with the actor.

That said, Davis is not meant to be a jerk. Sure, he's a little jealous of Jimmy. Hence why he makes that facial expression in "Prey." But that's because he likes Chloe. And Clark gets all in his face, so of course he's going to fight back a little. Because he doesn't even know Clark. Clark is ruder than Davis in many ways. Without real evidence, or even a search warrant, he goes through Davis's locker. I think anyone would respond with an "Excuse me." Davis is not a bad guy because he can't control what happens when he blacks out.

If anyone has issues with boundaries it's Clark. Seriously, how many times has Clark showed up unannounced everywhere? I guess you can't really blame Lex for getting annoyed with him all the time. Though Lex can put up with it better than Davis will, because Lex knows Clark. Davis doesn't. He just sees this guy who's getting all in his face and being nosy. Although, a part of him, knows there's a reason for his suspicions, he still doesn't trust Clark, because he doesn't know him. He knows and trusts Chloe. Hence why he turns to her and not someone like Clark, who almost wanted him to be guilty.

Davis gives Chloe space when she needs it, but yeah when he started to see that maybe Chloe's feelings weren't as deep for Jimmy as she said they were, then of course he's going to do something about it. What are many romantic movies about? The guy or the girl for that matter going after the one they love to stop them from marrying the wrong person. It doesn't make them a jerk. It just means they are willing to fight for the one they love. That's all Davis did. When he walked toward her to kiss her. She could have stopped him. But she didn't. She only pulled away after they were kissing. Clark went after Lana before she married Lex, and even afterwards. So, what's the difference? I think Davis is much less obsessive than Clark was. Davis only said something because he thinks Chloe is making a mistake. I agree with him. And even afterwards, he goes back to giving her space, and says he'll be waiting. I think that because he turns into Doomsday, it can be hard to look at Davis's actions objectively. If he were not Doomsday, and instead say one of the superheroes, his actions might not be looked at the same. But I really agree with the actor who plays Davis when he says that it's not his fault that he kills, that he's a love sick puppy for Chloe, and that he's actually a really good guy. That's how he's portraying him, and I agree with his interpretation. Davis is certainly not an obsessive stalker. He does not fit that profile at all.

And I don't see Davis having contempt for anyone. He even risks his own career to save Oliver. He brings Chloe back to Jimmy and Clark because it's the right thing to do. He's respecting boundaries. And when he talks to Jimmy in episode 9, he is trying to read how Jimmy feels about Chloe. He wants to see if he's a good guy, because Davis wants Chloe to have someone who's going to treat her like a princess.

I don't think Davis wants her to cheat on Jimmy and then keep it a secret. He was fighting for her to break it off because he thinks she's making the wrong choice. Many, many movies and shows do the same thing with the guy/girl who try to stop the one they realize they love, from marrying someone else. It's not about seducing. It's about doing something about their feelings before it's too late. These characters aren't usually faulted for doing this, so why should Davis? I really think that how Sam Witwer says he portrays him and his feelings for Chloe should be taken into account.

But I understand the frustration of a lot of Chloe fans. I am too. I would love to see Chloe end up with Clark in the end (with Davis being a bit of a triangle), but I don't think the writers will do it, since they are pushing Clois so hard.

If the writers were creative, they could have a Chlavis or Chlark happy ending. But they won't I'm sure, though I could give them a hundred ways to do it believably. That said, I don't think a happy ending is going to happen with Chimmy (as how can it be happy for Chloe when she's clearly settling?), and they won't have a happy ending with Chlark unfortunately because the writers want Clois. So, with Chloe's choices, I'd want a happy ending with Davis at this point, because he understands Chloe the most and has been the only guy on Smallville to truly "see" her. Chloe and Davis is a relationship that can be developed organically, because we don't know the ending. Neither one of them are in the comics. Doomsday kind of, but he's never been human. So, it could play out many different ways.

But, maybe in the future, they'll have Chloe hook up with Oliver or even Bruce Wayne :) and then she'll have a happy ending with them. Well, as long as she's madly in love with them. :)

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about Davis being a jerk and a bad guy. Because I just don't see it. He even tells the cop to run. Because at heart he's not a killer. He is a good guy who I think sees all these people walking on Chloe a bit. So, of course he's going to be a little short with them. But that's just me.

[SnowBird]

Really Topping82, I think you are looking at Davis with rose colored glasses and only seeing what you want to see. You are picturing him better than he is. That is okay but I wish you wouldn't trod on the good guy doing it. Frankly I'm glad you don't have any influence in the writting for Smallville because it would have been the end of a great show a long time ago.

[AndrewVDk]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about Davis being a jerk and a bad guy. Because I just don't see it. He even tells the cop to run. Because at heart he's not a killer. He is a good guy who I think sees all these people walking on Chloe a bit. So, of course he's going to be a little short with them. But that's just me.

I totally agree with you on this, and everything else in your post!

[Sunny8]

Lois asked her point blank if she was starting to have feelings for Davis and she bypassed the question. She could have said "no, of course not" but she didn't. I kind of wonder about that. Instead she said: "All I want to do is marry the man I love." I think she is being evasive. I'm not totally convinced that she doesn't have feelings for Davis just because she married Jimmy. Maybe she's in denial.

If she does I feel sorry for her. Who wants to be in love with a monster that kills everything in its path? Doomsday is not like the beast in "Beauty and the Beast". He is an evil monster created to annihilate. How could lovely Chloe (not Chloe possessed by Brainiac) actually want to be with that?

[topping82]

Really Topping82, I think you are looking at Davis with rose colored glasses and only seeing what you want to see. You are picturing him better than he is. That is okay but I wish you wouldn't trod on the good guy doing it. Frankly I'm glad you don't have any influence in the writting for Smallville because it would have been the end of a great show a long time ago.

Excuse me. I've been debating pretty nicely here, but no need to tell me that you're glad I don't influence Smallville. Because that's just plain rude. I'm not seeing his character with rose-colored glasses. I see him as a character who is struggling with this monster within him that goes against everything he's ever worked toward becoming as a human being. Apparently the actor agrees with me...so I guess I'm not deluded.

Clark is not perfect, and perhaps some people see what they want to see with him because he becomes Superman. I don't hate Clark, but he is deeply flawed. Both Clark and Davis are flawed. I certainly don't think Davis is perfect. But I don't think he's evil like some people are saying. He can't control what Doomsday does at this point. He is not consciously choosing to kill anyone.

I don't think Davis is going to become some superhero. I think he's a tragic character who loves Chloe, but perhaps will never be able to overcome the beast that is inside of him. And I personally think the greatness of Smallville (while always problematic) ended at the beginning of season 6. Though I think they have improved this season with Davis. And honestly, no need for personal insults when it comes to my ideas and how they would destroy this tv series. That's just plain uncalled for.

We don't have to agree, but you certainly don't have to be petty about it. I don't care if people don't agree with me. That's what debating with evidence to back yourself up is all about. It's about creating discussion. Not about becoming rude when someone has a differing viewpoint.

I personally don't think Davis is a douchebag, but hey if other people do, then go right ahead. I also don't think that Davis is Mr. Perfect. I just find him intriguing and sympathetic. I feel bad for this great guy who also just happens to be becoming a monster against his will. Where's the rose-colored glasses in that? Is it because I don't think he's evil? Or that I interpret that his looks at Jimmy were out of jealousy rather than because he's having evil thoughts?

I don't understand why this isn't a valid point of view. I can see why some people might see otherwise. But I don't. And I have evidence to back up my argument. That is what discussion is all about. And honestly, maybe you didn't mean it, but I really find it insulting what you said about my ideas and ruining Smallville. Especially since I am a writer. So back off. You honestly don't know any of my ideas of what I would do on Smallville if I were a writer for this show. You are only paying attention to a few of my discussions that you don't agree with.

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I totally agree with you on this, and everything else in your post!

Thanks! :) I mean it really is a valid viewpoint. Davis hasn't really done anything as "Davis" that proves to me that he is evil. I guess people will disagree though.

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If she does I feel sorry for her. Who wants to be in love with a monster that kills everything in its path? Doomsday is not like the beast in "Beauty and the Beast". He is an evil monster created to annihilate. How could lovely Chloe (not Chloe possessed by Brainiac) actually want to be with that?

She wouldn't be in love with Doomsday, she'd be in love with Davis who is separate from Doomsday in a way. She wouldn't be in love with the killing machine. She'd probably want to save Davis, like she has meteor freaks in the past.

And he is like the Beast in many ways. Why else would the writers and director of Bride pay clear homage to the French epic La Belle et La Bete? I wonder if anyone is actually checking out the end of the scene of Bride and comparing it to this actual scene.

Davis is not a "that," he is a human being, or at least behaving and thinking like one.

So why would Beauty want to be with a monster? Because she sees the humanity in him, and because she thinks she can save him. Why does Christine love the Phantom? He's a monster who murders other people. She doesn't want to be with the monster, she would want to find a way to help Davis be himself and overcome the monster within. It's not like she wouldn't relate. She was killing under the influence of Brainiac.

Chloe and Davis are very compatible, it's just unfortunate and tragic that he is becoming a monster. Tragedy doesn't mean they won't have Chloe love him. I'm not saying they will do this. I'm just saying based on evidence, they could.

I could even see people on Smallville bringing out their own pitchforks to go after Davis, and Chloe knowing that it's not all his fault, might try to save him against the others. She did try to stop Clark in "Prey" from going after him as well as other meteor freaks. She did see Clark as going on a bit of a witch hunt. Who's to say this won't escalate later in the season?

I think because we know Davis becomes Doomsday, that some of us might not be objectively looking at the character of Davis and who he actually is at this point. Right now, he is a good guy who is having something horrible happen to him, and he's turning to the only person he trusts: Chloe. People don't have to agree, but that's just how I see it.

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I want to add something to clarify what I mean about the whole Beauty and the Beast thing.

Overall, what I mean is that while Chloe and Davis are obviously not exact replicas of the story of Beauty and the Beast, it seems clear to me that the writers are using THEMES and MOTIFS from the story in correlation to their characters. There's a difference. Davis doesn't have to become the "prince" in the end for these themes and motifs to be used.

Davis is becoming a monster against his will and wants to be saved by Chloe. Smallville used famous film techniques to portray Davis as the classic monster (aka "Beast") and Chloe as the classic blond bombshell "Beauty." The elements are all there. All I'm saying, is that because they are using these techniques, motifs, and themes then perhaps it could be evidence that Chloe does have feelings for Davis, because these girls in these tales almost always have feelings for the monster/beast.

It's a valid argument. Although, I am not saying that the story WILL play out with Chloe saving Davis in the end with a healing tear as he becomes the "Prince." I'm just trying to point out different possibilities, as well as the very CLEAR similarities to these monster love stories such as La Belle et La Bete. There is no doubt that Jeannot Szwarc, the director (a French director I might add who would be very familiar with this film), paid homage to Beauty and the Beast.

The question of this thread is. "Does Chloe have feelings for Davis?" Based on the evidence I've been shown by the writers, directors, cinematography, actors' interpretations, music choices, etc...I would argue yes.

People of course are free to disagree. Although, it would be nice to see some evidence proving otherwise. I'm always up for a good debate. :)

[Sunny8]

She wouldn't be in love with Doomsday, she'd be in love with Davis who is separate from Doomsday in a way. She wouldn't be in love with the killing machine. She'd probably want to save Davis, like she has meteor freaks in the past.



I understand what you mean regarding Davis but I don't think Chloe can help him. At one point he is going to be no more Davis and just Doomsday. It reminds me of Season 7. When I saw Bizarro make contact with Lois I was afraid for her. When I saw Lana with Bizarro, even though they were this blissful couple, all I could think about is one day he is going to get angry with her and kill her. I think the same thing would happen with Chloe at one point even though she tried to save Davis and that's scary.

[ginnyfan]

Yes, this feeling is called fear.

:rotfl:

[SnowBird]

Clark is not perfect, and perhaps some people see what they want to see with him because he becomes Superman. I don't hate Clark, but he is deeply flawed. Both Clark and Davis are flawed. I certainly don't think Davis is perfect. But I don't think he's evil like some people are saying. He can't control what Doomsday does at this point. He is not consciously choosing to kill anyone.

Look at what you are saying. Clark is "deeply flawed" and Davis is "flawed." It does seem like you are very sympathetic towards Davis/monster over Clark/Superman. Clark is not "deeply flawed." Yes, he has his faults but he has learned from them and strives to be better. Davis is evil and won't learn from his mistakes because he is getting worse. Did you not see Davis carry two bags of bodies he killed to a dumpster to hide before the attempted call to Chloe? He was in his human form and not DD and he realized that he had done a terrible thing. Like I said before, you can't separate the two. Davis and Doomsday are the same. He can't be trusted. He knew he was going to turn into something terrible when he told the officer to go. He knows what he is now and Davis will never be the same nice, helpful person he once was. If he does return as a human, he will remember that he is a killer and his job will be effected because he'll never know when he will turn into a monster. How could he even trust himself around Chloe in the future. If he does love her, he should stay as far away as he can to protect her from him....As far as you being a writer, I can see your potential and I wish you well in your future endeavors.

[fuchsiaRose]

Lois asked her point blank if she was starting to have feelings for Davis and she bypassed the question. She could have said "no, of course not" but she didn't. I kind of wonder about that. Instead she said: "All I want to do is marry the man I love." I think she is being evasive. I'm not totally convinced that she doesn't have feelings for Davis just because she married Jimmy. Maybe she's in denial.
I don't think she is being evasive. She's just unsure about what she is feeling.

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I describe Chloe's feelings as a genuine attraction combined with a mutual Kryptonian connection. She likes Davis for his similarities to Clark.
WTH? Are you serious? This made me laugh out loud! :rotfl:

It was a joke right? Right? :confused:

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Agreed. It was very weird how she smiled at Doomsday at the end.
It wasn't weird. It's called Brainiac.

[topping82]

I understand what you mean regarding Davis but I don't think Chloe can help him. At one point he is going to be no more Davis and just Doomsday. It reminds me of Season 7. When I saw Bizarro make contact with Lois I was afraid for her. When I saw Lana with Bizarro, even though they were this blissful couple, all I could think about is one day he is going to get angry with her and kill her. I think the same thing would happen with Chloe at one point even though she tried to save Davis and that's scary.

The difference between Davis and Bizarro, is that Bizarro chose to be evil. Davis was raised as a human, and has chosen to be a good guy. He's becoming a monster against his will. I understand what you are saying, but I don't ever see Davis hurting Chloe. Maybe Doomsday, but not Davis. They really are separate in my opinion.

I do think Chloe will try to save him. At this point it's not about how successful she will be, right now it's all about the build up.

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Look at what you are saying. Clark is "deeply flawed" and Davis is "flawed." It does seem like you are very sympathetic towards Davis/monster over Clark/Superman. Clark is not "deeply flawed." Yes, he has his faults but he has learned from them and strives to be better. Davis is evil and won't learn from his mistakes because he is getting worse. Did you not see Davis carry two bags of bodies he killed to a dumpster to hide before the attempted call to Chloe? He was in his human form and not DD and he realized that he had done a terrible thing. Like I said before, you can't separate the two. Davis and Doomsday are the same. He can't be trusted. He knew he was going to turn into something terrible when he told the officer to go. He knows what he is now and Davis will never be the same nice, helpful person he once was. If he does return as a human, he will remember that he is a killer and his job will be effected because he'll never know when he will turn into a monster. How could he even trust himself around Chloe in the future. If he does love her, he should stay as far away as he can to protect her from him....As far as you being a writer, I can see your potential and I wish you well in your future endeavors.

I don't need people to tell me to look at what I am saying. At this point, I do find Davis to be sympathetic. Perhaps I'm a little like Beauty myself. :) I have never said that I don't sympathize with Clark. But yes, he is flawed. He had an affair with a married woman, he STOLE Chloe's memories, was going to kill Lionel just because he blackmailed Lana into marrying Lex, etc... Yes, he's learned from these mistakes. But he is still flawed. Clark has crossed boundaries. But I've always felt more for Lex and Davis than Clark anyway. I mean what's wrong with me, right? I feel sympathy for the guy who's going to become the exact opposite of what he wants. That applies to both Lex and Davis. I feel sorry for them. I think it's meant to be tragic, and we are supposed to feel sympathy for them. If some people don't, well fine. But I do.

I thought it was sad to see Lex lose his own humanity because of his choices. And I think it's sad to see Davis lose himself because of his inner programming. Something that is not of his own doing. And yes, I think Davis will try to distance himself from Chloe for a while. But who's to say she won't try and track him down? She's not a wimp as we've seen.

I guess you could say that I don't sympathize with Clark as much, because I know how he turns out. He's the hero. I guess my standards for him are a little higher. But I do still feel for him, as he's the lone hero in some respects. But what I think has been one of the best things about Smallville has been that the villains have been 3-dimensional and sympathetic. We feel for Lionel, Lex, and now Davis. I believe this is done on purpose.

And thank you. :)

[SnowBird]

Some people always cheer for the under dog and Davis (not Doomsday) certainly qualifies. Time will tell how it all plays out. We know the end but it is the journey that keeps us coming back. I have exhausted all my thoughts that the rules permit on the topic and am ready to put it to rest. Two bunting heads only results in a headache and I'm going to stop before I have to take a pain pill...Peace:)

[topping82]

WTH? Are you serious? This made me laugh out loud! :rotfl:

It was a joke right? Right? :confused:

I don't think it was meant to be a joke. I think Kalista meant that there are two reasons for their connection.

1) The Brainiac/Doomsday connection that is inside of them both
2) The real genuine/human connection/bond between Chloe and Davis.

To me Davis is a nice guy, who's becoming a monster, which is against everything he's ever worked toward becoming. He is very flawed, but sympathetic and vulnerable. But Davis is not evil. And in one of SW's interviews, he says that Chloe and Davis connect because of a reason he's not allowed to say (which is the Brainiac/Doomsday connection) and because of a real human bond. I agree with him. Those two reasons are what this poster was trying to point out. I really don't see how it's funny.

Also, I think Kalista means that Davis has a Kryptonian connection like Clark does. At least that's what I think was meant by it.

On a side note, in relation to the character of Davis, here are a few interview links with Sam Witwer where he explains a bit of his interpretation of the character

CW Interview Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVp8NwNDrsY

CW Interview Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0BmRH3L8w

I think it's interesting to hear some of his theories and how he interprets his character. To me, he sees Doomsday as being inside of him, but that he has suppressed it to the point where Davis is separate from that. And I agree that Doomsday is more of a survivor than flat out evil. And again, Davis is a really nice guy, but like SW says is willing to push back. He's not a wimp. But he certainly doesn't like what's happening to him. So it will be interesting to see where it goes. And I have to agree about the Chloe/Jimmy not really being meant to be thing. :)

Here's another more recent interview. It might contain spoilers, I don't know. But he is a "love sick" puppy for Chloe. :) :

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b70275_video_smallville_24_scoop.html#comments

I hope this gives some insight into the Davis character as from the actor's perspective.

I think personally that Davis is a tragic character, who is a nice guy, who also has something horrible happen to him. And I think it's something that's out of his control and isn't his fault. But it will happen, and it is tragic. And I do think Davis loves Chloe beyond the Brainiac thing, and we'll see what happens with Chloe's own feelings. SW pretty much agrees with how I view his character.

I just happen to also think that the writers/director are using themes and motifs from the Beauty and the Beast tale. So, we'll see where that leads.

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Some people always cheer for the under dog and Davis (not Doomsday) certainly qualifies. Time will tell how it all plays out. We know the end but it is the journey that keeps us coming back. I have exhausted all my thoughts that the rules permit on the topic and am ready to put it to rest. Two bunting heads only results in a headache and I'm going to stop before I have to take a pain pill...Peace:)

I've definitely always rooted for the underdogs. And yes, we'll have to agree to disagree. Peace. :)

[Kalista]

Thanks for responding in my behalf Amber and those are a few of the similarities I had in mind.

I was just rewatching one of SW's interviews and he mentions that Davis and Clark have alot in common although he wouldn't elaborate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtlfEvsZG4U&feature=related

Peterson also made reference to Davis/Clark parallels.

http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/8981/tcid/1


Brian Wayne Peterson: And I’m really excited about the Doomsday situation because we tried to do a mirror to Clark in the first season realizing he’s a super hero and what would it be like if you realized you had special abilities and realized that you were the ultimate villain. So to mirror what happened on the journey for Clark but with the villain I think is going to be a really interesting storyline.

[topping82]

Thanks for responding in my behalf Amber and those are a few of the similarities I had in mind.

I was just rewatching one of SW's interviews and he mentions that Davis and Clark have alot in common although he wouldn't elaborate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtlfEvsZG4U&feature=related

Peterson also made reference to Davis/Clark parallels.

http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/8981/tcid/1

You're welcome. And thanks for the links. :)

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

its pretty obvious that she is attracted to him. but she loves jimmy! jimmy is consistant and a great guy and she really loves him. sadly, she is attracted to davis. that is clear. i mean...who wouldn't be attracted to him. ;)

but she is faithful! she has proved that!

[topping82]

its pretty obvious that she is attracted to him. but she loves jimmy! jimmy is consistant and a great guy and she really loves him. sadly, she is attracted to davis. that is clear. i mean...who wouldn't be attracted to him. ;)

but she is faithful! she has proved that!

Yeah, she's definitely attracted to him. And I agree, what girl wouldn't be? But I think her feelings run deeper. And I have to disagree about Jimmy being consistent and a great guy. He's always had a wandering eye. He ditched Chloe after he took her virginity. In the beginning of season 6, they mention that afterwards he never even called her. Then when Chloe's with him, Jimmy acts constantly jealous and always demanding the truth (like Lana in earlier seasons), and then in season 7 he goes after Kara. And then as soon as Kara gets amnesia he runs back to Chloe.

Also, in Noir, he reveals that in his subconscious he finds Lana and Lois more attractive. They just don't like him.

Then in Maxima, after he reads a letter Chloe wrote in high school, he gets jealous, and runs off to a bar, with the intention to cheat to make her jealous. He's smiling about it before he meets the seductive princess who can control him. So the intent was already there.

And then Clark has always been wishy-washy about his feelings. So, I think the appeal of Davis to Chloe might be that he is direct, secure about his feelings, and isn't wishy-washy. He's the first guy who's ever been that way for her. Davis's feelings for Chloe are the one thing he's sure of, as he said at the end of "Abyss." For Chloe, who's never been with a guy who felt sure about her from the start, she probably finds it refreshing. But that's just me.

Personally, I think Chloe loving Jimmy is merely contrived writing. The actors have zero chemistry. Based on the writing, I think she loves him, but she isn't in love with him. She knows it too. That's why she says "no" to Davis when he asks her if the only other guy she felt "easy" with was Jimmy. She knew it was Clark, and not the guy she's engaged to. It bothers her because she wants to do the right thing, the responsible thing, even if it's not true to her own heart. She then asks for space from Davis because she knows her feelings are developing for him while she's engaged to the guy who really is representative of the safe choice. Although, I think based on Jimmy's "inconsistent" personality he would eventually cheat on her, and use his own jealousy as an excuse. To me Jimmy is the opposite of consistent. Though the writers might want us to believe he is because he's "Jimmy Olsen."

[Iluvgreen]

Chloe just wanted to walk down the asle and marry the man she loves... aka Jimmy Olsen!

[A Dawg]

I think she is scared that she might, and doesn't want to go down that road.

[topping82]

Chloe just wanted to walk down the asle and marry the man she loves... aka Jimmy Olsen!

She never said Jimmy's name. In fact she said that right after Lois asked her if she had feelings for Davis. HMMM. :)

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

Yeah, she's definitely attracted to him. And I agree, what girl wouldn't be? But I think her feelings run deeper. And I have to disagree about Jimmy being consistent and a great guy. He's always had a wandering eye. He ditched Chloe after he took her virginity. In the beginning of season 6, they mention that afterwards he never even called her. Then when Chloe's with him, Jimmy acts constantly jealous and always demanding the truth (like Lana in earlier seasons), and then in season 7 he goes after Kara. And then as soon as Kara gets amnesia he runs back to Chloe.

Also, in Noir, he reveals that in his subconscious he finds Lana and Lois more attractive. They just don't like him.

Then in Maxima, after he reads a letter Chloe wrote in high school, he gets jealous, and runs off to a bar, with the intention to cheat to make her jealous. He's smiling about it before he meets the seductive princess who can control him. So the intent was already there.

And then Clark has always been wishy-washy about his feelings. So, I think the appeal of Davis to Chloe might be that he is direct, secure about his feelings, and isn't wishy-washy. He's the first guy who's ever been that way for her. Davis's feelings for Chloe are the one thing he's sure of, as he said at the end of "Abyss." For Chloe, who's never been with a guy who felt sure about her from the start, she probably finds it refreshing. But that's just me.

Personally, I think Chloe loving Jimmy is merely contrived writing. The actors have zero chemistry. Based on the writing, I think she loves him, but she isn't in love with him. She knows it too. That's why she says "no" to Davis when he asks her if the only other guy she felt "easy" with was Jimmy. She knew it was Clark, and not the guy she's engaged to. It bothers her because she wants to do the right thing, the responsible thing, even if it's not true to her own heart. She then asks for space from Davis because she knows her feelings are developing for him while she's engaged to the guy who really is representative of the safe choice. Although, I think based on Jimmy's "inconsistent" personality he would eventually cheat on her, and use his own jealousy as an excuse. To me Jimmy is the opposite of consistent. Though the writers might want us to believe he is because he's "Jimmy Olsen."


i think a lot of his "jealous" feelings are for good reason. but in this season we see that he is a lot more secure over the Clark issues and he doesn't even seem to care about davis. i think that he has been inconsistent and unstable in the past, especially with Kara, but i think that Commited proved that both of them truly love each other. honestly, i am giving Jimmy a second chance because season 7 was pretty stupid with the whole Kara thing and he has never truly cheated on Chloe. i don't think he could ever cheat on Chloe. i also think that Chloe's feelings for Clark are truly gone and that her feelings for Davis are simply feelings and nothing more.

[topping82]

i think a lot of his "jealous" feelings are for good reason. but in this season we see that he is a lot more secure over the Clark issues and he doesn't even seem to care about davis. i think that he has been inconsistent and unstable in the past, especially with Kara, but i think that Commited proved that both of them truly love each other. honestly, i am giving Jimmy a second chance because season 7 was pretty stupid with the whole Kara thing and he has never truly cheated on Chloe. i don't think he could ever cheat on Chloe. i also think that Chloe's feelings for Clark are truly gone and that her feelings for Davis are simply feelings and nothing more.

To me, usually if a guy has been unstable and inconsistent in the past, they will be unstable and inconsistent in the future. And I believe in "Maxima" he showed he was the same as he was in season 7. The intent to cheat was there before he even saw the seductive princess. That tells me of his true colors. And there is no evidence that Chloe didn't beat the box. She did have Brainiac powers at the time, and could have easily beaten the machine; that is what Brainiac does.

We're each entitled to our opinions, but based on the evidence of Jimmy's choices through out the series, I think he could cheat on Chloe.

And I definitely don't think Chloe's feelings for Clark will ever be truly gone. She will always love him, no matter who she ends up with.

And we'll see where Davis goes. But I think there's more to it than simple attraction. But that's just me.

[AChloeChick]

^^^I agree with all of your posts in this thread and I do not think you're seeing through rose colored glasses. There's SO much in the written context, as well as the unwritten context that should not be ignored.

[topping82]

^^^I agree with all of your posts in this thread and I do not think you're seeing through rose colored glasses. There's SO much in the written context, as well as the unwritten context that should not be ignored.

Thanks! And I agree. :) I love how when people have a differing viewpoint they are accused of seeing things through rose-colored glasses. And there's definitely a lot in the written and unwritten context that should definitely not be ignored!

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

To me, usually if a guy has been unstable and inconsistent in the past, they will be unstable and inconsistent in the future. And I believe in "Maxima" he showed he was the same as he was in season 7. The intent to cheat was there before he even saw the seductive princess. That tells me of his true colors. And there is no evidence that Chloe didn't beat the box. She did have Brainiac powers at the time, and could have easily beaten the machine; that is what Brainiac does.

We're each entitled to our opinions, but based on the evidence of Jimmy's choices through out the series, I think he could cheat on Chloe.

And I definitely don't think Chloe's feelings for Clark will ever be truly gone. She will always love him, no matter who she ends up with.

And we'll see where Davis goes. But I think there's more to it than simple attraction. But that's just me.

yes, chloe will always love clark. but she is no longer IN LOVE with him. that much is clear. and obviously you are a very hearty believer in once a cheater always a cheater! and i don't think that Jimmy had any malicious intent when it came to Maxima or Kara for that matter. he was hurt...and with how many times chloe has lied to him he had the right to be hurt. BUT-------i don't think that chloe would have messed with the lie detector test. i really don't think she could have and the show NEVER insinuated that she did anything to alter that test. the intent of that episode was to reveal the truth. if there was some sort of insinuation that chloe messed with it at all there would have been some kind of follow up discussion or story line to provoke it. and the only real manipulation that happened in that episode happened with Lois...cuz she was all freaked out by the test and what clark would think of her. again, i don't think that Jimmy has a malicious bone in his body. i think chloe is more likely to cheat on him then the other way around. but thats just because chloe has a LOT more baggage than jimmy does. again...just my opinion.

[topping82]

yes, chloe will always love clark. but she is no longer IN LOVE with him. that much is clear. and obviously you are a very hearty believer in once a cheater always a cheater! and i don't think that Jimmy had any malicious intent when it came to Maxima or Kara for that matter. he was hurt...and with how many times chloe has lied to him he had the right to be hurt. BUT-------i don't think that chloe would have messed with the lie detector test. i really don't think she could have and the show NEVER insinuated that she did anything to alter that test. the intent of that episode was to reveal the truth. if there was some sort of insinuation that chloe messed with it at all there would have been some kind of follow up discussion or story line to provoke it. and the only real manipulation that happened in that episode happened with Lois...cuz she was all freaked out by the test and what clark would think of her. again, i don't think that Jimmy has a malicious bone in his body. i think chloe is more likely to cheat on him then the other way around. but thats just because chloe has a LOT more baggage than jimmy does. again...just my opinion.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Because I think Chloe beat the box, that she still loves Clark (and always will), that Jimmy's intent was to cheat, that he's inconsistent, that he and Chloe are not a good match, and that Chloe does not have a cheating personality, etc...

But to each their own. Everyone will see it their own way. I just think it would be a total lightswitch to say Chloe doesn't love Clark anymore when she's loved him for 8 seasons. That would just be lame writing trying to force Chimmy on everyone, when most people (not all) don't like them as a couple. I honestly just don't see why Chloe who has a Brainiac power would just decide not to use it for that one thing, because she wanted to prove something to herself. Brainiac wouldn't let his vessel get electrocuted.

Plus, how do we even know that Chloe had all of her memories in that scene? Chloe in "Abyss" said she'd been losing memories for a while. And that she'd been writing out information to remember everyone. She said she'd been faking more and more. But for how long? It's rather ambiguous and we can see Chloe's a good faker.

That said, if Chloe no longer loved Clark, why would she be holding onto the memory of the Vessel kiss with Clark longer than any other memory? Besides Davis of course, which was part of Brainiac's plan.

I just think that tells us a lot about the inner feelings of Chloe. But again, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I just don't see Jimmy as being faithful, because he can always use jealousy as an excuse for bad behavior. I've seen it too many times in real life.

[Kalista]

that Jimmy's intent was to cheat, that he's inconsistent, that he and Chloe are not a good match, and that Chloe does not have a cheating personality, etc...

That would just be lame writing trying to force Chimmy on everyone, when most people (not all) don't like them as a couple.


The writers could write Chimmy as a stable ship but they continue to highlight serious problems within the relationship. Chloe has been trying to appease Jimmy and reassure him since the beginning of their relationship. As recent as Bride, Jimmy is still insecure and that's why he tried to play matchmaker with Clark. Chloe is marrying him and he is still worrying about Clark. Jimmy couldn't let Chlark finish their dance without making a petty comment about getting a chance to dance with his wife even though he was just dancing with Chloe prior to the Chlark dance. I will not comment on Chloe being a cheater because she clearly does not have that tendency and has never shown herself to be disloyal in that regard.


But to each their own. Everyone will see it their own way. I just think it would be a total lightswitch to say Chloe doesn't love Clark anymore when she's loved him for 8 seasons.

Their reunion in Odyssey, the engagement talk in Plastique and Abyss shows me how Chloe feels about Clark. Her happy place involves kissing Clark or being in close proximity to him and she fought to hold on to those memories.


That said, if Chloe no longer loved Clark, why would she be holding onto the memory of the Vessel kiss with Clark longer than any other memory? Besides Davis of course, which was part of Brainiac's plan.

Chloe's happy place could have included memories of them investigating together or she, Clark and Pete spending time together or various other non-romantic moments. The fact that ALL of the memories in her happy place included romantic moments with Clark is very telling as is Brainiac's calculated efforts to have Davis replace Clark in her affections.
I just don't see Jimmy as being faithful, because he can always use jealousy as an excuse for bad behavior. I've seen it too many times in real life.

Two years into their on again off again relationship, the dynamic hasn't changed. That tells me that we aren't supposed to view Chimmy as a viable ship.

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

being in love with someone and loving someone are two different things. i never said that she just stopped loving him. i just said that she was no longer IN LOVE. which is possible.

and so what if jimmy wants to dance with his wife? in A LOT of movies, tv shows, and real life husbands often steal their new wives from their dance partners on the dance floor. it is never viewed of jealousy. i do understand that the actors don't have ANY chemistry (which is quite a shame) but why can't anyone be happy for them while we have the chance....before everything goes horribly wrong! because we all know it will!

[AChloeChick]

I'm going to chime in on the possible 'cheating'.

Yes, it is true Jimmy has had a wondering eye AND was guilty of flirting with Kara, as well as Maxima. He also immediately started dating Kara while he and Chloe were on-again-off-again, and was trying to renew the 'spark' when Kara had amnesia. As far as I can tell, his Clark insecurities are STILL present (Abyss is a fine example because he made two snide remarks about it).

Although I do think he is head-over-heels for Chloe and seems to be in love with her, he may or may not have overcome his 'cheating' tendencies. I think, on the most part, he has now that he's . . . I can't even type it. Only time will tell.

As far as Chloe is concerned, from what I can tell, she has proven herself to be faithful (even to a fault). However, I do believe she is at a very vulnerable stage now. Her relationship with Jimmy has ALWAYS been shaky and it has NEVER been very easy.

Now that Davis is in the picture (I'm sorry, I think Clark is no longer an issue. I do think she will ALWAYS love Clark, however, I don't think she's still madly in-love with him), she's treading on very dangerous ground. Sure, she backed off for awhile, but her pull toward Davis is extremely strong (I think it's much more than the Kryptonian pull). That is evident (IMO) in the Abyss kiss scene when she not only 'invited' him in, she met him halfway. Then, in Bride her facial expressions say it all when Davis calls. She simply could have hit the ignore button or turned her phone off.

She didn't. Not only that, she called him back on her wedding day and then lied to Jimmy about it (that is NOT a good thing).

Bottom line, Chloe and Davis share a connection and it's more than Kryptonian. There's an emotional bond AND a physical attraction going on and that is why it's so dangerous. 'Cheating' or 'affairs' are not about the physical, they're about the emotional. Chlavis is very much the emotional, as well as mental and physical (something Chimmy never has been) which is a very dangerous combination.

Plus, Davis gets Chloe in a way NO guy has ever done before (not Clark, espcially not Jimmy), and he truly SEES her for who she is.

Again, only time will tell.

[chlo-el]

^ I totally agree with that. And if anything I think what Davis does is have Chloe really get over Clark. I think that yes Chloe was holding on to Clark even in Abysse. It seemed to me, they were saying what was keeping Clark and Chloe so close was his secret. As soon as the secret was gone it seemed to me that it really just was frinedship she felt for him but she had feelings for Davis. She said while they were dancing that suddenly a weight was lifted and she she could move on, and it looks like she did. IT just doesn't seem like her heart was totally moving on to Jimmy. Even though she married him she still seemed weighed down by her feelings for Davis.

For me the problem with Chimmy has been secrets and lies. In Idenity it showed that the problem would always be there as long as she knew Clarks secret. But then even w/out Clarks secret she is still blantantly lying to Jimmy. Through out this season we've seen Chloe still keep secrets from him and let Davis in and not her own fiance. She hides her new power from him and tells Davis. And in Committed when they "pass" the truth test and Jimmy confesses Chloe still doesn't tell him and keeps the truth from him. THen finally w/ Davis phone messages she is still lying to him. If she loved Jimmy so much she would lay it down for him and tell him the truth about what happened. If she really didn't have any feelings for Davis she would have told Jimmy Davis kissed her and it meant nothing. But she couldn't bring her self to that so she lied.

That just shows me Jimmy won't last. I'm hoping Chloe completely moves on to Davis. But they still have that Doomed quality to their relationship. I've always thought it would be hard for Chloe to move on from Clark and the only way for her truely move on is to fall head over heals in love with someone else. And that is so not Jimmy. It defiantly could be Davis. Oh I wish it was Davis.

[disciples of zod]

I think that Chloe definitely feels some sort of attraction toward Davis. However, I think she doesn't know what to do with those feelings because she supposedly, and has confessed/sworn up and down, that she loves Jimmy.

I think Chloe is a very confused young lass right now. And it doesn't help that Brainiac is messing things up either!

~H

[SacredK]

Of course she does! Who wouldn't!

[AChloeChick]

I think that Chloe definitely feels some sort of attraction toward Davis. However, I think she doesn't know what to do with those feelings because she supposedly, and has confessed/sworn up and down, that she loves Jimmy.

I think Chloe is a very confused young lass right now. And it doesn't help that Brainiac is messing things up either!

~H

I think Chloe's claims about Jimmy and the way she says them comes across (IMO) as Chloe trying to convince herself, Davis, Jimmy, the audience, and whomever else she has said it to that it is true.

Do I think she loves Jimmy? Yes. Do I think she's in-love with Jimmy? No. Even going through with a lie-detector test and a marriage ceremony I'm STILL unconvinced, especially with all her confused facial expressions and avoidance of Lois's question about Davis.

[topping82]

I posted this elsewhere, but here is some evidence again through the Beauty and the Beast tale, that Chloe does have feelings for Davis.

Here’s what the new promo said (which I think is telling when it comes to Chloe and Davis being similar to Beauty and the Beast):

Davis: “There once was a monster and the monster dreamed that it was a man.”
Chloe (whispers): “Davis”
Davis: “It loved everything about being a man. It was a beautiful dream. But the dream is doomed to end.”

Well anyway, let’s look at the promo a little more closely.

The promo itself is set up as a dark fairy tale with clear themes and motifs of Beauty and the Beast. “There once was a monster,” “beautiful,” “dream.”

These could be considered tropes; words that are repeated through out the Beauty and the Beast tale, as well as this promo. Beauty dreams of Beast just as Chloe dreams of Davis in Abyss. And we all know fairy tales start with "Once upon a time." I believe the Grimm Brothers version of this story starts with "Once there was a man." Sound familiar?

I copied some dialogue down from the movie version of Twilight. It was almost impossible not to see the motifs and themes from Beauty and the Beast in Twilight as well as Smallville. The parts I bolded just remind me so much of the description of Doomsday that it made me laugh.

Spoilers from Twilight:

Bella: You’re beautiful
Edward: Beautiful? I’m a killer Bella. This is the skin of a killer.
Bella: I don’t believe that
Edward: Because you believe the lie. The camouflage. I’m the world’s most dangerous predator. Everything about me invites you in – my voice – my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that….As if you could outrun me…As if you could fight me off…I’m designed to kill.
Bella: I don’t care.
Edward: I’ve killed people
Bella: It doesn’t matter.
Edward: I wanted to kill you. I’ve never wanted a human’s blood so much in my life. I’m dangerous to you.
Bella: I trust you
Edward: Don’t

Skipping ahead:

Edward: I’m not sure I can control myself.
Bella: I know you can
Edward: I wish I could understand this thing you see in me. You look at me with those eyes. I can’t read your mind. Tell me what you’re thinking.
Bella: I’m afraid
Edward: Good
Bella: Not of that. I’m afraid you’ll disappear. That I’ll lose you.
Edward: You don’t know how long I’ve waited for you….And so the Lion fell for the Lamb.
Bella: Stupid lamb
Edward: Sick masochistic lion.

Let’s compare this scene with the dialogue between Chloe and Davis in episode 6, Prey.

Chloe: Davis, I know that you are not responsible for these killings. I know you. You save people every day. What could make you think that you were a brutal serial killer?
Davis: Chloe, I’ve run the self-denial box for weeks, but how do you explain the black outs? How do you explain that I was covered in blood? None of it was mine. I wanna believe that you’re right more than anyone, but…
Chloe: Then it’s just a matter of finding the right killer.
Davis: You really don’t believe that it could be me could you?
Chloe: No.
Davis: Even though we just met. You’re really leaping out on a limb for me.
Chloe: Well if what they say is true and fools do rush in, then I have definitely earned the mantle of village idiot in this one.
Davis: And then you just toss it all aside with a healthy dose of self-deprecation.
Chloe: Please don’t make me a saint…What?
Davis: Luck isn’t part of my daily routine, but I just…I feel like you were sent to me.
Chloe: You are not a serial killer. Look, Davis, when did those black outs start happening?
Davis: For as long as I can remember. And when I was a kid, I would go a couple months without a black out, but they’re just getting so frequent.
Chloe: Is that why you bounced from foster home to foster home?
Davis: I’ve always felt like there was this darkness inside of me…just fighting to come out.
Chloe: So you just close yourself off to everyone…After all these years of keeping it secret. Why are you telling me?
Davis: I think you know…I’ve never met anyone like you…But Chloe, what if I’m right, what if you’re looking at a murderer?
Chloe: Davis, there are a lot of people who could have done these killings…and we’re going to find who did.

Chloe later in the episode says, “It’s not just the damsels in distress that need saving.” Chloe, like the classic Beauty type character wants to save Davis. She then goes on to tell Clark that she would have done anything to protect him because he was “different.” Chloe is protecting meteor freaks as well as Davis through out the episode from people (including Clark) who are going on witch hunts against them. This sounds like the story when some versions of Beauty and the Beast have the townsfolk bring out their pitchforks to go after the Beast, and Beauty has to protect him. This is what Chloe does. This is who she is. So, perhaps we’ll be seeing more of Chloe helping Davis after he asks for help which we see in the promo. . This seems to me that the Beauty and the Beast theory could really be evidence of Chloe’s feelings for Davis.

Back to Twilight, later in the film, Edward also calls himself a monster, which I find interesting. In one version of Beauty and the Beast as told by the Grimm Brothers, the beast is actually a lion during the day and a handsome prince at night. It’s very vampiric, and Twilight seems to have taken from these themes of the lion and the lamb. Even the light affects the Lion in the story. But like Davis, he is sometimes seen as the Beast and sometimes seen as the handsome Prince. So, in the Grimm version there is an even larger dual side to the Beast like Davis. Meaning, you actually see two different sides of the same person physically through out the story.

There are many different versions of Beauty and the Beast. In one version, called The Ram, the Beast dies. It’s a tragic ending. It could be that Smallville is going down the more tragic route; and that when he fully becomes Doomsday it could be symbolic of his own death. Symbolic of the fact that Chloe could not save him.

An online writer summarized quite nicely from the book The Fairy Tale: The Magic Mirror of Imagination with this quote: “Beauty and the Beast might be interpreted as a young woman's coming-of-age story. Content with a pure love for her father, she finds sexuality bestial, and so a man who feels sexual desire for her is a beast. Only when she is capable of regarding the desire of sexual relationship as human is she capable of achieving happiness.”

Season 8 could in many ways be seen as a coming of age story for Chloe. She could very well be someone who always goes for pure love. Pure love for Clark, pure love for Jimmy, pure love for everyone, etc…She even described her first time with Jimmy as just being okay. This pure love though is not in itself sexual, even though she’s slept with Jimmy.

Davis is the first guy who has come along who is truly sexually attracted to her. So, typical Chloe avoids it. I would even argue that Chloe marrying Jimmy is the ultimate example of fear of commitment. As long as she is with Jimmy she is safe from actually having to confront her feelings for anyone else, like Davis or even Clark. She is free from a true emotional attachment…forever. She can be with Jimmy, while never being able to be “easy” with him. She is running in a sense from her own feelings. The end of Prey when Chloe and Davis talk about being “easy” with someone was the moment I am convinced Chloe realized her own feelings for him. When Davis asked her if she had ever felt that way with anyone before, she paused (a long pause; she clearly thinks about Clark and almost cries). Then she says, “Once.” He assumes it’s Jimmy. But it’s not. It was Clark. And she has this epiphany of her feelings for Davis. So, I think she leaves, not because of a “moral code of ethics” as Davis says, but because she’s afraid. She starts to hold onto her engagement ring and wiggle it around as they finish their conversation. And when he starts to reveal his own feelings, she makes a run for it. Why? Because again, she is afraid. Here’s a guy who she actually “connects” with who unlike Clark, will act on those feelings and she knows it. So, she runs.

In the beginning of season two, Chloe runs from Clark to avoid confronting her own feelings for him. In the beginning of season 6, Chloe runs from Clark again, when she has Jimmy to use as an excuse to not have to confront the Vessel kiss. Why? Because she fears the possibility of getting hurt. Jimmy seems to always be Chloe’s excuse to subconsciously or even consciously hide from “real” commitment. Julia Roberts character does this in Runaway Bride as well. She uses “men” (subconsciously; it’s not malicious) to run from commitment. She stays with men (for a while), who she claims to “love,” but clearly doesn’t. When Richard Gere comes along, he challenges her. And helps her to overcome her “self-deprecation” problem and in the end she finally throws in her running shoes (facing her fear) and commits to someone both emotionally and sexually. Something she had not been willing to do before because she did not know herself. Chloe, you could argue, does not know herself either. Her journalism dream is apparently gone now, and she’s trying to find her place in the world. Perhaps she needs to figure this out before she can be with Davis. One thing is for certain, she is not ready to be married to Jimmy.

I know this sounds bad, but just because you’re in a relationship with someone, it doesn’t mean that you are “committed.” There are people who are so afraid of actually committing to someone, that they choose to be with the ones they know deep down it will either never work out with in the end, or with the ones who never pose a threat to their emotional core. Since she’s not really in love with Jimmy, her heart will always be safe.

In a way, Chloe is also safe with Clark because he is unattainable. And in that sense, it keeps her safe as well. She can have a platonic relationship with him and love him freely because she knows it can’t be returned even if Clark does love her.

But with Davis, there’s a sense that he “wants” her. He tells her how he feels. He’s a beast in that way. Could be why she says he’s confused. NO ONE has ever really done that before. And it scares her. She was “safe” with Clark (even though it was subconscious) and she was “safe” with Jimmy. But with Davis, she risks everything. She actually risks the possibility that she could lose her heart to him, and that he would actually love her, but that in the end she would get hurt.

Now let’s go back to the promo and the romantic vampire tv show Moonlight. In the recap before episode 2 of Moonlight Mick says: “Holding her in my arms, it almost feels like things could work between us. But monsters don’t get happily ever after.”

This sounds like the new promo in a way as well. Mick and Davis both use verbal imagery that alludes to fairy tales. And both of them are clearly referring to Beauty and the Beast.

Later in the season finale of Moonlight, Mick and Josef, watch this epic love story between two vampires go up in flames…literally. Josef tells Mick that they don’t have to watch. But Mick says, “Yeah, we do.” Because Mick knows how ultimately their own love stories with humans will probably turn out. He has a “dream” of being a man, a human, but can it ever be fulfilled? Will they always be “doomed” to have their life and love end in tragedy because of their own monstrosity?

There are many different versions of Beauty and the Beast told in different cultures (many of them French) over time. Some of them end happily with the Beast becoming the Prince in a sense, some end with the Beast staying a Beast, but Beauty still finds him handsome (like Jane Eyre), and others end up more tragically. So Smallville could go in any direction they want, but the evidence is there that they are at least using these themes and motifs. So, it doesn’t matter if Davis will never turn into the “Prince” or not, because it’s about the themes not the ending.

I guess my overall point is, is that by seeing this promo (I can’t remember any other time they’ve had an actor come in and do a V.O. like this; I could be wrong) I think that it foreshadows that the writers are at least continuing down the Beauty and the Beast angle. Whether or not it will end happily is still up in the air. Perhaps they have a tragic ending planned at this point, but let’s face it, if there’s a lot of buzz that can be created about them (if they can catch on to the fact that couples like Edward/Bella and Mick/Beth are really popular right now), perhaps they will change direction. Writers are known to change their mind.

By using the Beauty and the Beast lens with which we are seeing Doomsday’s story, it seems that the writers probably are interpreting that Chloe has feelings for Davis and vice versa.

On a side note, for those interested, here’s a link comparing Jane Eyre to Beauty and the Beast. The writer points out how you can use themes and motifs from fairy tales without it actually being the same story (which is what I think Smallville is doing with Chloe and Davis): http://www.umd.umich.edu/casl/hum/en...web/price1.htm

[RedKRules]

I think Chloe has feeling for Davis ... :D

[AChloeChick]

I have no doubt she has feelings for Davis. She just doesn't know what to do with them!

[RedKRules]

She should definitely make a move on Davis, I mean make a move on her feelings :lol:

[Eeyore840]

But since we have Martyr Chloe this season, she will stay with Jimmy and "try to work it out".

[HeartChakraBabe]

I have no doubt she has feelings for Davis. She just doesn't know what to do with them!

I agree.

[RedKRules]

But since we have Martyr Chloe this season, she will stay with Jimmy and "try to work it out".

until she realizes that Jimmy and her are totally miserable and should move on! :rolleyes:

[SuperJ77]

She likes him adn has feelings for him, but doesnt want to rush things, or hurt Jimmys feelings.

[Veilleuse]

An online writer summarized quite nicely from the book The Fairy Tale: The Magic Mirror of Imagination with this quote: “Beauty and the Beast might be interpreted as a young woman's coming-of-age story. Content with a pure love for her father, she finds sexuality bestial, and so a man who feels sexual desire for her is a beast. Only when she is capable of regarding the desire of sexual relationship as human is she capable of achieving happiness.”
This is a really interesting post topping. Slightly o/t, but on the vein if this discussion (animal mimesis in connection with woman's coming-of-age / sexuality), you should really check out Angela Carter's work and the writings about her work. Particularly The Bloody Chamber, it's a collection of fairy tales she's done (basically retelling the original versions of "Beauty and the Beast", "Snow White", etc). Word of warning, they are rather, erm, adult, however, apart from the originals they are (imo) some quintessential reading of exactly this line of discussion. I have certainly thought of "Beauty and the Beast" in connection with Chlavis, but also Carter's versions of the tale. I don't even know if I should call the sexuality of Chlavis an undertone. It's almost too blatant for that, despite how they haven't actually done anything yet.


Season 8 could in many ways be seen as a coming of age story for Chloe. She could very well be someone who always goes for pure love. Pure love for Clark, pure love for Jimmy, pure love for everyone, etc…She even described her first time with Jimmy as just being okay. This pure love though is not in itself sexual, even though she’s slept with Jimmy.Especially interesting in that it was Clark that gave away Chloe at her wedding. A role more traditionally designated for the bride's father or a paternal figure. Despite her love for her him long time constituted in the romantic, Chloe now seems to have placed him (or more openly placed him? Accepted him?) in a more sexless, paternal ("pure") role. Apart from Chloe and with some googling, I caught some info about Superman's early origins and how apparently "Kal-El" is a Hebrew word for "God" (http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1679961,00.html). Superman/Clark Kent always had heavily messianic qualities to him, his "Smallville" version is no exception (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Smallville_poster1.jpg/225px-Smallville_poster1.jpg). Chloe - Clark's best friend, a character unique to "Smallville" and the only one, aside from Clark, there from the beginning - now placing Clark more in the paternal role in her life? I could see that tying into Clark's coming closer to accepting his role as Superman or "Kal-El". In this case, this "pure love" - platonic/paternal-like love - synonymous with divine love. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agap%C4%93)

Of course, if Clark (and possibly, despite being her husband, Jimmy to a degree) have now taken up the roles in philia and/or agapē love for Chloe? Who, I wonder, is intended to take up eros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros_%28concept%29)? ;)

Although this all makes me think about the mirroring between Clark and Davis. Clark is a man destined to be a god (or godlike) as Superman ("Kal-El", a symbolic figure of the Judeo-Christian God). Could that mean Davis - as Doomsday (as of "Bride") - is a god that should be a man? A being that I'd guess is only vulnerable via his human, Davis, side (represented in Chloe / his love for Chloe)? Chloe's arc this season could be much the same as Davis'. In Ollie's words, "she's living [Clark's] life", a god's life. Clark tried to take that burden of his secret (her role in that aspect of his life) from her by erasing her memories / removing Brainiac, but it came charging back the very next ep. Will the S8 (or S9) finale possibly be Chloe and Davis truly released from the burden of a god's life? Both becoming human (or human enough)? Surviving or one or both dying as human?

[disciples of zod]

i think she had an attraction to Davis, but i know for a fact she loves Jimmy. however, i think some of those feelings of attraction are still there...sadly. :(

~K

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Great post! However, what difference does it make now because she's STUCK with Jimmy.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

i understand what you're saying, but i don't necessarily think she's "stuck" with Jimmy. i believe that she truly made her choice, IMO.

~K

[Karafan1]

I think she does have feelings for Davis. I think she told him they shouldn't see eachother anymore so her feelings for him won't get stonger and that might end up with her cheating on Jimmy with Davis..

[disciples of zod]

^ true. very true

~K

[Nibiru]

I think that her feelings for him are strictly based on some imbalance caused by Braniac last season, and Chloe's instinctive need to help others. It's not true love like her and Jimmy.

[disciples of zod]

I think that her feelings for him are strictly based on some imbalance caused by Braniac last season, and Chloe's instinctive need to help others. It's not true love like her and Jimmy.

ITA! better words have not been spoken!

~K