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AndiGirl
11-20-2008, 09:10 PM
I know its much too soon to tell, and I read into everything...but bare with me here! :lol:

Was I the only one who got the feeling it's not looking good for Chloe? There were these constant comments that just screamed to me "Chloe will never be the same!"

Obviously the major thing...she's infected by Brainiac. Which I know that wont last long, but who's to say that wont affect her some how down the road. Or alter her in one way or another?

Then there's the fact that she no longer knows Clarks secret. It just broke my heart to watch her pull out that piece of kryptonite and have absolutely no idea she was hurting her best friend of 8 years. The one thing I thought the writers could never touch....the relationship that was sacred, was the chloe/clark friendship. I accepted that Chloe and Clark would never be romantic...but I always held on to the knowledge that their friendship was one of legends and could never be messed with. Boy was I wrong! :\

Of course...I have no idea what the writers have in store, but something tells me the mind wipe is permanent.

Lois said something in the hospital along the lines of "what if we never get Chloe back?" I dont know, it just seemed like they meant more then the "get her back right now from the big creep guy." But it was forshadowing that Chloe will never be the same girl we all knew and loved (well most of us) after this.

Dooms taking Chloe to the fortress. The place she had gone so many times before with Clark to fight the good fight. Now, it's taken over by evil...much like Chloe, and who is carrying her there?? Davis. Who carried her there not one episode previously....Clark. Where did Davis lay her.....the exact same spot Clark put her a week before. Very symbolic

Then there's the fact that Chloe is now married to Jimmy Olseon. We all know Jimmy isnt going anywhere.....so that leaves Chloe. :\


Before people being to yell at me...and tell me I'm being negative...thats not it at all. Realistic is the word really. All of these things just seem to be pointing to the end of a beloved character. Which I dont know if I'm ready for that..... :(

superpeon1
11-20-2008, 09:13 PM
Maybe if Chloe gets knocked off there will be more room for Shelby.

AndiGirl
11-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Maybe if Chloe gets knocked off there will be more room for Shelby.

I dont know....he may get the mind wipe next and be dropped off at "the farm." :lol:

colibri
11-20-2008, 09:19 PM
I don't know where this is going but, yeah, I have no idea what they are going to do with Chloe. This is totally puzzling. I'm very curious to see what happens to her but I don't see how we are ever going to get normal Chloe back. When Lois was talking to Jimmy about the wedding vows "til death" and all that, knowing that Jimmy gets hurt, made me wonder if it was foreshadowing for Jimmy (even though he's cannon and I really didn't believe they would kill him off) but now I wonder if that foreshadowing was meant more on behalf of Chloe.

jqedward
11-20-2008, 09:21 PM
I heard that after Lana was infected by Brainiac she needs an experimental procedure to keep her alive. I think that will be her storyline in 4 more episodes she will appear in this year. I think you are on to something, if that is indeed the case with Lana then it is not a stretch to think the same thing is happening with Chloe. Smallville has been liberal in killing characters off. Let's hope to God they won't do that with Chloe.

globalbudd3
11-20-2008, 09:23 PM
I think the original poster is right. It is a foreshadowing for the character of Chloe. The fact that the show have to explain how her existence on the show and her non-existence in the past and present comic book mythos need to be resolved in a satisfactory and logical manner. I love Chloe and hate to see her go but it is inevitable.

NaYa
11-20-2008, 09:24 PM
Well I love the fact that Chloe might go evil, but maybe only temporarily. Evil Chloe and Doomsday together doing evil? That's pretty cool!

Yeah i see your point on the whole forshadowing thing. We will just have to wait and see what happens to Chloe.

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I think the original poster is right. It is a foreshadowing for the character of Chloe. The fact that the show have to explain how her existence on the show and her non-existence in the past and present comic book mythos need to be resolved in a satisfactory and logical manner. I love Chloe and hate to see her go but it is inevitable.

In my opinion I don't think Smallville writers are too worried about explaining the non existence of Chloe in the comic books. They are doing there own thing...so Chloe's death does not have to be inevitable.

unfocused
11-20-2008, 09:30 PM
I know its much too soon to tell, and I read into everything...but bare with me here! :lol:

Was I the only one who got the feeling it's not looking good for Chloe? There were these constant comments that just screamed to me "Chloe will never be the same!"

Obviously the major thing...she's infected by Brainiac. Which I know that wont last long, but who's to say that wont affect her some how down the road. Or alter her in one way or another?

Then there's the fact that she no longer knows Clarks secret. It just broke my heart to watch her pull out that piece of kryptonite and have absolutely no idea she was hurting her best friend of 8 years. The one thing I thought the writers could never touch....the relationship that was sacred, was the chloe/clark friendship. I accepted that Chloe and Clark would never be romantic...but I always held on to the knowledge that their friendship was one of legends and could never be messed with. Boy was I wrong! :\

Of course...I have no idea what the writers have in store, but something tells me the mind wipe is permanent.

Lois said something in the hospital along the lines of "what if we never get Chloe back?" I dont know, it just seemed like they meant more then the "get her back right now from the big creep guy." But it was forshadowing that Chloe will never be the same girl we all knew and loved (well most of us) after this.

Dooms taking Chloe to the fortress. The place she had gone so many times before with Clark to fight the good fight. Now, it's taken over by evil...much like Chloe, and who is carrying her there?? Davis. Who carried her there not one episode previously....Clark. Where did Davis lay her.....the exact same spot Clark put her a week before. Very symbolic

Then there's the fact that Chloe is now married to Jimmy Olseon. We all know Jimmy isnt going anywhere.....so that leaves Chloe. :\


Before people being to yell at me...and tell me I'm being negative...thats not it at all. Realistic is the word really. All of these things just seem to be pointing to the end of a beloved character. Which I dont know if I'm ready for that..... :(

Great post. I especially love the symbolism part. I still believe she will regain her memories of Clark's secret, but for the time being, it's really sad. I just wish she wasn't as close to Clark in season 8, she wouldn't be in this huge situation if the relationship between her and Clark was so important. But, it's beautiful writing, I think this show is so powerful this year because of bold efforts such as these are being taken.

Again, thanks for the post, it's really nice.

dru-zod2501
11-20-2008, 09:30 PM
oh yeah I got the feeling the mind wipe is gonna be permanent. especially when she told him the weight off her has been lifted. I knew I should start saying good-bye to my chlarker-ness

susangail
11-20-2008, 09:39 PM
Yup, I'm afraid so.

AndiGirl
11-20-2008, 09:45 PM
I don't know where this is going but, yeah, I have no idea what they are going to do with Chloe. This is totally puzzling. I'm very curious to see what happens to her but I don't see how we are ever going to get normal Chloe back. When Lois was talking to Jimmy about the wedding vows "til death" and all that, knowing that Jimmy gets hurt, made me wonder if it was foreshadowing for Jimmy (even though he's cannon and I really didn't believe they would kill him off) but now I wonder if that foreshadowing was meant more on behalf of Chloe.

I feel the same way, even if they separate Chloe from Brainiac...and reinstate her memories of Clarks secret, she still will never be the same woman again. I have no idea at this point what they have in store for her. :\

Good catch! I forgot about the "until death do us part" thing. I kind of saw that as Jimmy being naive really. For me atleast....I think having butterflies on your wedding day is perfectly normal. The fact that he wasnt even slightly nervous was weird to me. Like...it wasnt that big of a deal for him?? So I was honestly releaved when he had his freakout about seeing Chloe before the wedding! :lol:

But you may be on to something...I dont think it could be forshahowing Jimmy. Unless Chloe gets her old powers back and heals him?? Hmm.....

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I heard that after Lana was infected by Brainiac she needs an experimental procedure to keep her alive. I think that will be her storyline in 4 more episodes she will appear in this year. I think you are on to something, if that is indeed the case with Lana then it is not a stretch to think the same thing is happening with Chloe. Smallville has been liberal in killing characters off. Let's hope to God they won't do that with Chloe.

She did?? Wow...thats crazy! :eek:
I am worried Chloe's a goner at this point...but with PS3 you never know.

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Well I love the fact that Chloe might go evil, but maybe only temporarily. Evil Chloe and Doomsday together doing evil? That's pretty cool!

Yeah i see your point on the whole forshadowing thing. We will just have to wait and see what happens to Chloe.

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In my opinion I don't think Smallville writers are too worried about explaining the non existence of Chloe in the comic books. They are doing there own thing...so Chloe's death does not have to be inevitable.

I am excited for Chloe to go bad for awhile, if only for the fact that it will be amazing to watch AM go there. I have a feeling she has a dark side just waiting to boil to the surface! :lol: I agree, everyone wants to stay true to the mythos...and if thats the case Chloe just wont fit. I hope I'm wrong though...

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Great post. I especially love the symbolism part. I still believe she will regain her memories of Clark's secret, but for the time being, it's really sad. I just wish she wasn't as close to Clark in season 8, she wouldn't be in this huge situation if the relationship between her and Clark was so important. But, it's beautiful writing, I think this show is so powerful this year because of bold efforts such as these are being taken.

Again, thanks for the post, it's really nice.

Thank you. :) Glad you liked it.

I hope she regains her memories...but even then, I have no idea where they are taking her character. It seems no matter what happens Chloe will never be the same. Which who knows, that could be a good thing in the long run. The writers really are doing an excellent job as far as the heartbrake of it all. Very convincing stuff!

SteveS
11-20-2008, 10:33 PM
Yes, for the first time I definitely got that feeling and it was a bad one.

Black Panda
11-20-2008, 10:38 PM
Nah, the writers would like me to worry about or hope that Chloe will never be the same, but the episode was very much in the we can't commit to a real storyline mode. They can't keep her wiped, it's logistically absurd.

Nobody ever gets off the island. They just keep driving bamboo bicycles forever.

kentfamily
11-20-2008, 10:58 PM
I kept getting the same feeling, too. Allison Mack might also leaving the show this season.

Disco_Lemonade
11-20-2008, 11:08 PM
I really don't think Al/Gough or PS3 was really all that concerned with the Superman Mythos, otherwise we wouldn't have had seven seasons of Clana angst and they would have planted some Plana(?) seeds. I hope that PS3 doesn't kill Chloe it would put me off watching Smallville, and a lot of my friends only watch it for Chloe too. It's sad that something like that happened to Chloe, she's my favorite character since she's the most believable. Lana always seemed to perfect to be human and I was never really able to connect with Lois, as she's so emotionally detached most of the time.


And like Sam Witwer said in an interview, we sorta see the events in SV through Chloe's eyes and it's not going to be SV anymore once they kill her. IF they kill Chloe, then I think the next step for PS3 would be to call the show Metropolis.


I really think Chloe is what makes this interpretation of the mythos so interesting. She's the reason Clois happened sooner than planned. She's the reason they got together in this timeline period. She got Clark Kent into journalism! She got Lois Lane into journalism! They might have eventually gotten there sans Chloe, but it doesn't seem as realistic for Clark to do anything else--in SV style--but mope in his barn about Lana. I don't think he would've made it to that point where he could help people without her influence. And if you want to get technical. I think that if Chloe hadn't existed--meaning Lois didn't come to SV earlier--I'm afraid Lois would have wound up on the wrong side of the tracks and never would have quit smoking or drinking. And I know that's a lot of weight placed onto one characters shoulders. And I know it seems like incessant character pimping, but in SV I can't see Clois in SV without Chloe.


And at this point it would be really #*%$^& for Chloe to die and then for Clois to get together. I ship Clois and I ship Chlark, so this has nothing to do with one ship being better than the other. It's just like I never really felt like Lois cared enough about her cousin to ask Chloe if it was OK to date Clark. And that seems really presumptuous, but when your cousin, whom is practically your sister, has been hung up on some guy for about seven years, you ask her if she's over him before you make a move. I want that scene where Lois asks Chloe. Sure 'Committed' proved Chloe was only in love with Jimmy, but Lois wasn't in the torture room with them.

But this is even more unlikely, as if I thought Al/Gough was horrible at writing female/female relationships, PS3 is even worse. Lois tells other people she loves her cousin, but I don't think I've seen a scene this season where AM and ED were in a scene together... Faora and Chloe doesn't count.

I'd like to say that Chloe is going to get her memory back, she's going to find a man who doesn't cheat on her in every other episode, and is actually going to care for her--Davis/Doomsday doesn't count. And I'd like to hope that PS3 isn't going to AXE my favorite character in order to make SV mythos appropriate--since Doomsday wasn't Davis in the mythos--but with PS3 I don't know what to expect, and that certainly isn't a good thing.

Becc
11-20-2008, 11:11 PM
It's possible that Chloe could finally be rid of the brainiac infection but perhaps some of the abilities were left behind who knows. Either way I think she's in for a very rocky road :(

ginnyfan
11-21-2008, 12:38 AM
Hmm... people have been predicting Chloe's death for a while. I hope she won't die. The survival rate of people who have been infected by Brainiac isn't high but... I'm hopeful.

shamville
11-21-2008, 04:35 AM
She get knocked up after 11 find out haveing a baby by clark or dd.

AndiGirl
11-21-2008, 09:59 AM
She get knocked up after 11 find out haveing a baby by clark or dd.

Huh? :eek:
You think Chloe is having DD or Clarks baby???
I dont think that will happen...especially not clarks.

eas
11-21-2008, 10:56 AM
I know its much too soon to tell, and I read into everything...but bare with me here! :lol:

Was I the only one who got the feeling it's not looking good for Chloe? There were these constant comments that just screamed to me "Chloe will never be the same!"

Obviously the major thing...she's infected by Brainiac. Which I know that wont last long, but who's to say that wont affect her some how down the road. Or alter her in one way or another?

Then there's the fact that she no longer knows Clarks secret. It just broke my heart to watch her pull out that piece of kryptonite and have absolutely no idea she was hurting her best friend of 8 years. The one thing I thought the writers could never touch....the relationship that was sacred, was the chloe/clark friendship. I accepted that Chloe and Clark would never be romantic...but I always held on to the knowledge that their friendship was one of legends and could never be messed with. Boy was I wrong! :\

Of course...I have no idea what the writers have in store, but something tells me the mind wipe is permanent.

Lois said something in the hospital along the lines of "what if we never get Chloe back?" I dont know, it just seemed like they meant more then the "get her back right now from the big creep guy." But it was forshadowing that Chloe will never be the same girl we all knew and loved (well most of us) after this.

Dooms taking Chloe to the fortress. The place she had gone so many times before with Clark to fight the good fight. Now, it's taken over by evil...much like Chloe, and who is carrying her there?? Davis. Who carried her there not one episode previously....Clark. Where did Davis lay her.....the exact same spot Clark put her a week before. Very symbolic

Then there's the fact that Chloe is now married to Jimmy Olseon. We all know Jimmy isnt going anywhere.....so that leaves Chloe. :\


Before people being to yell at me...and tell me I'm being negative...thats not it at all. Realistic is the word really. All of these things just seem to be pointing to the end of a beloved character. Which I dont know if I'm ready for that..... :(

No, I definitely understand your fears. Chloe is your favorite character and it's understandable that you're anxious when you see this cliffhanger. (Especially because spoilers about Chloe are kept so tight.)

I don't know if this makes you feel better, but my gut is saying that Chloe comes back as Chloe. Maybe a little scarred and she may have some issues, but I think she's going to re-gain her memories and she's going to come back with a purpose.

At this point, I don't know what it is... her arc can go in many directions. But I do think that one of them is death? No. I don't think that death is an option for Chloe UNLESS we're talking about the final episode of the series. They would be fools to kill off Chloe... not just because of her fanbase, but because they paid AM for the full season and they're not going to throw that money away.

justme_007
11-21-2008, 01:17 PM
I know its much too soon to tell, and I read into everything...but bare with me here! :lol:

Was I the only one who got the feeling it's not looking good for Chloe? There were these constant comments that just screamed to me "Chloe will never be the same!"

Obviously the major thing...she's infected by Brainiac. Which I know that wont last long, but who's to say that wont affect her some how down the road. Or alter her in one way or another?

Then there's the fact that she no longer knows Clarks secret. It just broke my heart to watch her pull out that piece of kryptonite and have absolutely no idea she was hurting her best friend of 8 years. The one thing I thought the writers could never touch....the relationship that was sacred, was the chloe/clark friendship. I accepted that Chloe and Clark would never be romantic...but I always held on to the knowledge that their friendship was one of legends and could never be messed with. Boy was I wrong! :\

Of course...I have no idea what the writers have in store, but something tells me the mind wipe is permanent.

Lois said something in the hospital along the lines of "what if we never get Chloe back?" I dont know, it just seemed like they meant more then the "get her back right now from the big creep guy." But it was forshadowing that Chloe will never be the same girl we all knew and loved (well most of us) after this.

Dooms taking Chloe to the fortress. The place she had gone so many times before with Clark to fight the good fight. Now, it's taken over by evil...much like Chloe, and who is carrying her there?? Davis. Who carried her there not one episode previously....Clark. Where did Davis lay her.....the exact same spot Clark put her a week before. Very symbolic

Then there's the fact that Chloe is now married to Jimmy Olseon. We all know Jimmy isnt going anywhere.....so that leaves Chloe. :\


Before people being to yell at me...and tell me I'm being negative...thats not it at all. Realistic is the word really. All of these things just seem to be pointing to the end of a beloved character. Which I dont know if I'm ready for that..... :(

Thanks for your great post... sometimes i think we should be writers, such a fanbase here in K-Site... regarding to your post .. i think chloe will recover her memory. remember that a spoiler from the season is that she will recover her healing power... i have the opposite feeling than you, i feel that producers are going to bring back our chloe :D and they will divorce chloe from jimmy :lol::rolleyes: maybe!