Was that Lex at the end? Or Brainiac?

[Kschreck]

Smallville producers certainly know how to tease. So what do you guys think, was that really Lex (probably just a placeholder guy for the time being) at the end of the episode? Does this signify the return of Lex Luthor at some point in the future? What exactly was he doing with those wires attached to his head, watching Chloe's wedding?

Let the speculation begin...

[6-Super-Man -5]

Wrong section.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Yup, that was Lex.

Does anyone else notice how much people are on this site right now? Its freezing the entire site up!

[ForzaItalia]

Everyone here is saying that was Lex, but when I first saw it I thought it was Brainiac, just with no hair.... There are many comics when Brainiac has wires to his head like that and is bald (and has green skin)..... But why would Lex have wires to his head?

[Ardiem3]

How could it have been Brainiac when all thats left of him is in Chloe? It was Lex.

[lm1212]

Brainiac is in Chloe. I'm assuming that was Lex (not Michael though)

[smallvillian141]

Well At first I thought it was Lex, but it's just like smallville to make us think it's Lex but it really not be.
It could go either way :]

[Darth Pipes]

It reminded me of Brainiac but I hope it was Lex.

[hanemg]

Brainiac was the first thing I thought of as well. I think it was all the wires in his head that triggered that thought because I just finished the arc in the comics where he's back and depicted just that way.

[davidbrenton]

Lex. I hope they know what their doing and not assuming they'll get Micheal for season finale.

But, it makes sense because apparently he's the controller of all technology which makes his ability to email Tess make sense.

[wooosmallville]

Maybe lana has lex hidden away somewhere.

[superhippie2000]

im sure it was lex.

[BatAngel5]

Maybe it was the Luthor Brainiac Hybrid?

[pizzahead2490]

its lex luther but it was not MR.

[jazzylg]

It was Brainiac. The writers have taken smallville to comic level and beyond, I love it. This depiction of brainiac, for all you none comic fans, shows us that brainiac is much more than some drops of black sludge.He's a diabolical ,cybernectic organism, whose true form is soon to be revealed, just like the comics! This is great stuff, and the quickest transition to true geekdom/fan satisfaction this show has seen in years!:D

Note: It had to be Brainiac, per the video slide show, viewed form chloe's remergence in brainiac's network. She's been re asimialted(like the borg) and brainiac is the master program behind his collective.

[green_arrow_girl358]

here's what i think. it was lex, but i think it WILL be braniac, due to the wires. sort of a vessel for braniac because chloe isn't evil enough. how he gets into lex's body is another thing...

[Russ-L]

What if it wasn't lex. What if it was Brainiac 5 looking at footage of the wedding. It is the perfect reason for the legion to show up next episode.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, the site is freezing.
It could be anyone.

[Rub-in]

It had to be Lex
why would brainiac want to watch Chloe (his vessel) durring her wedding and watch Doomsday attack.
This reminds me of Season 6 with the phantom tape

The wires-now thats a puzzle, my guess is for breathing, brain activity...

one last thing
was that Lex or Tess that texted Lana durring the wedding

[Krypton_Chick7]

hmm idk... but this means that whoever it was they were at the barn to find the video camera, or someone working for them was

[REebee52]

I like the idea of it being a brainiac. How the hell would Lex get attached to that?

[jackhammerslam]

How could it be Braniac if he doesn't have his human form anymore and is in the Fortress? It was Lex, and someone obtained the camera from the barn for him.

[Shadowlord367]

I don't understand how they think that Brainiac is in the least bit a suspenseful or even interesting cliffhanger.

He comes, he hatches a scheme, Clark defeats him, he returns. It's not really anything groundbreaking, no matter how TPTB shake it.

[bizzaro93]

Maybe it was the Luthor Brainiac Hybrid?

I've posted that about a BILLION times, lol. In the Who is "X" discussion in "instinct" I kept telling everybody that it could be the Lex fused with Braniac we've seen in Justice League Cartoon but only 1 guy agreed with me and you would make 2. Yea, support the idea!

[Super EJ]

I dont think were gonna know a thing until next episode. Which for some stupid reason we have to wait till Jan. 15. But it's most likely Lex because you can't actually survive an avalanche like that with out being medicated or under a type of machine for the person's lungs. It's most likely Lex. The only question is how he got that fotage of the wedding. Like I said, who knows.

[smallvillerocks45]

I thought it was Lex, too. Of course, it couldn't have been Michael Rosenbaum - I think they would have shown his eyes or lips if it had really been him - but I don't know many other bald men that would be important enough to merit a scene like that.

[lm1212]

Hmm...now I'm lost (goes and does research)

[dru-zod2501]

was it really so hard for eveyone to see?

I thought it was perfectly clear those weren't wires, they were more like breathing tubes, one into his chest, another into his mouth, or the two might be connected (look at their placement) for someone on a kind of ventilator. The two cathodes on his head are to monitor brain activity as they always would be.

the end.

This person is most likely Lex; the real mysteries are elsewhere kids.

[spotteddog]

Well, the idea was certainly to have us THINK it was Lex. However, if that was the case, they could have done a much better job of picking a body double. That guy had a totally different shaped head, ears that looked like a taxi cab driving down the street with its doors open, and was way too tall/skinny. He kind of looked like Nos[what-his-name], the master vampire.

[blackcelebration]

The answer is simple...

If PS3 get Michael Rosembaum to return then it's Lex... if not Brainiac.

[SnowBird]

Looked like Lex to me and they wanted us to think it was Lex with the bald head. Looks like he didn't fair well from the arctic. I wonder who is helping him.

[SteveS]

It was Brainiac in Chloe and Brainiac tapping into Lex.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think it could either be Brainiac or Lex. (Only showing the back cause they could not get Michael back for the cameo)

[BatAngel5]

I've posted that about a BILLION times, lol. In the Who is "X" discussion in "instinct" I kept telling everybody that it could be the Lex fused with Braniac we've seen in Justice League Cartoon but only 1 guy agreed with me and you would make 2. Yea, support the idea!
Exactly, I completely agree. In JLU they did it so why not here? It would make sense with X too.

[jqedward]

Lex

[Blue Orange NY]

yea my opinion, clear choice, it was Lex....and I believe Lana is working with him, who would be the person texting Lana with that response, so it must be him and she's working with him (doesn't make sense) now why would Lex be tied up that way.....what would've been nicer would be if you heard a Lex voice over....saying "Clark....." then scene out

[zorasuperman]

lol dont think braniac would be bold. james marster has a head full of hair

[ywm]

Maybe it was the Luthor Brainiac Hybrid?

No, it's Warrior Angel and Darth Vader hybrid

[susangail]

I think it's supposed to be Lex, but it reminded me of that weird dummy that fronted Clint Howard in the original "Star Trek." All those weird tubes looked ominous but didn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO.

[Rocky]

Micheal said at comic con.. that he wont be returning.... maybe its a clone of lex..?? as well as lana

[6-Super-Man -5]

I don't think Lana is a clone, but there is a good chance though.
Could be a human that is going to be taken over by Brainiac?

[ClareKent]

We don't know for sure if Brainiac it's coming back any time soon either in some physical form... but I really hope it's Lex.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Me as well.

[Darren5000]

Was that Lex in the end? Does that mean possibly Michael Rosenbaum 'might' be persuaded to air a few episodes? They made it work without Lana for 10 weeks. I hope they don't try to hire 'another actor.'

Is the whole thing going to come out as 'Darkseid' kidnapping Lex, and 'maybe' brainwashing Lana?

[superspider02]

it is lex and they probably did this to give us fans a hint towards what has been going on with lex since the finale. As for the body i believe it was likely michael's stunt double standing in since michael doesnt want to return. I do hope maybe if michael is free during episode 15-22 filming period maybe they can convince him to return for one episode atless. If not in body hopefully they can convince him to record some lines to be used in an episode and just use this body double and we just hear lex's voice.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, he was strapped to a chair watching a TV for a couple of months now... :p

[smallvillerocks45]

Well, the idea was certainly to have us THINK it was Lex. However, if that was the case, they could have done a much better job of picking a body double. That guy had a totally different shaped head, ears that looked like a taxi cab driving down the street with its doors open, and was way too tall/skinny. He kind of looked like Nos[what-his-name], the master vampire.

LoL.. You mean Nosferatu.
You're right, that was not the most impressive body double, but if having this double is a sign that Lex will be back, I think that would be amazing!

I can't wait to find out.

[Bre723]

What i thought was maybe the wires were keeping Lex alive after the fortress, but it wasn't Micheal.

[tyson08]

The producers told us to watch the final seconds of his episode. It would make sense if Lex me an appearace, whether in physical form or vocal.

[pizzahead2490]

if it lex it better be MR. thats all i can say!!!

[smallvilleclark]

Could i be lana on all that stuff? I remember reading in a spoiler for an upcoming episode that experiments done by luthorcorp are the only things keeping lana alive. Just a theory

[jragbir]

guys, i have a confession. it was me.

[SuperRay]

If it was Lex, he sure does have an extra long neck.

[Smallville Gone Bizarr]

I hope it's Lex since I don't think in the Legion trailer they would randomly put Tess saying " you were the last one to see Lex alive" to Clark

[Vergon6]

I hope it's Lex since I don't think in the Legion trailer they would randomly put Tess saying " you were the last one to see Lex alive" to Clark
Well that appeared to not be just for "Legion". It looked like it might have other episodes sprinkled in there. Plus, it reused some old footage as well.

[Rocky]

How would Lex get the video.. when the video was on the ground. how would he get his hands on that

----- Added 34 Seconds later -----

Lex Can Be A Clone...

[ROPERIAM]

Have you guys ever concidered that it may just be one of the members of the justice league from the future? These justice league members from the future will be in the next episode.

[dru-zod2501]

Have you guys ever concidered that it may just be one of the members of the justice league from the future? These justice league members from the future will be in the next episode.
because
1) they're not members of the Justice League, they're from the Legion Of Superheroes

2) none of them, or their evil counterparts (who aren't involved in the episode) are or ever have been bald

[ForzaItalia]

Someone on another section of these boards suggests it was neitther Lex or Brainiac, but it was actually Brainiac 5 in the far future looking back at years ago. That would make a lot of sense because the Legion of Super Heroes are coming in the very next episode. So perhaps Brainac 5 saw this, and he will tell Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Lighting Lad they should travel back in time to help Clark defeat Chloe "the vessel of Brainiac" Sullivan.. If that's true, it's a pretty awesome way to set up the next episode.

[susangail]

Agreed - great setup. It would explain his having such access to the video.

[amberdawn]

I think it was pretty obvious it was Lex. My boyfriend was retarded and asked me "wait, who was that?!" :lol:

[Dark_Superman]

my guess is either brainiac, OR the villian that so far not listed for legion, since maybe bride leads into legion. thats my guess

[ROPERIAM]

It does make sense that someone from the future is looking back. I made a mistake in calling them the Justice League. It has been over forty years that I have read the comic book.

[Dpyro]

Michael has to be coming back maybe they didn't just announce it yet but cmon if he wasn't coming back at all they wouldn't have any kind of Lex plot at all so I wouldn't be surprised if Rosenbaum comes back for at least 1 episode.

[andyolinyk]

maybe brainiac has gone wireless...

[ForzaItalia]

The real question here is: did the writers and producers intend for it to be clear who that was, or did they want us to wonder?

[Estro-gen X]

Someone on another section of these boards suggests it was neitther Lex or Brainiac, but it was actually Brainiac 5 in the far future looking back at years ago. That would make a lot of sense because [SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS] the Legion of Super Heroes are coming in the very next episode. So perhaps Brainac 5 saw this, and he will tell Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Lighting Lad they should travel back in time to help Clark defeat Chloe "the vessel of Brainiac" Sullivan.. [SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS] If that's true, it's a pretty awesome way to set up the next episode.

I doubt its B5. B5 is green with blonde hair and doesn't hook himself up to things like that if he has to.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/th_392433-73119-brainiac_super.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/?action=view&current=392433-73119-brainiac_super.jpg) http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/th_337549-111499-brainiac-5_super.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/?action=view&current=337549-111499-brainiac-5_super.jpg)

You'll se the first picture of brainiac 1 matches so much more. First he is hooked up to all those wires and secondly he's bald. I hope they find a way to green him up

[smallvilleclark]

Is it my imagination or did the person with the tubes and wires seem like he or she had an unusually long neck and/or small head?

[__jb]

Maybe his face was damaged when the Fortress collapsed...

Maybe Lex will be played by a different actor... After 7 years, Lex can't just disappear... I hope.

[SUPERMANUSA]

Someone on another section of these boards suggests it was neitther Lex or Brainiac, but it was actually Brainiac 5 in the far future looking back at years ago. That would make a lot of sense because the Legion of Super Heroes are coming in the very next episode. So perhaps Brainac 5 saw this, and he will tell Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Lighting Lad they should travel back in time to help Clark defeat Chloe "the vessel of Brainiac" Sullivan.. If that's true, it's a pretty awesome way to set up the next episode.

In that same thread I suggested that it could be Lex in the future looking back.

[NaYa]

Lex!

[Chloelicious]

It's Jor-El.

[hansioux]

there can be many copis of Brainiac....

[singingdove]

Dude, if that was Lex he has a freakishly long neck all of a sudden.

[amberdawn]

Well maybe it was Brainiac. I'm not sure why he'd be bald now...

[Duanish]

other idea : set up for legion enemy full that they said on one would expect?

[connorkent]

The powers that be like to drop hints and in some cases anvils, sometimes they do it in the form of specific songs, with this in mind listen to the words that play in the song as the bald guy comes into view in the final shot of bride

'Put me inside flesh that is dying'


The guy is hooked up to tubes and what looks like medical equipment and the song says 'put me inside flesh that is dying', I.e. this is a hint that the person in the video is being kept alive and without the equipment would be for want of a better description 'be inside flesh that is dying'. And who do we know that is bald and would be in a potentially critical condition, Lex Luthor.

Its a nice idea that is could be Brainiac, but the show has already established him being a shape shifting being and is currently based in the fortress. Not only that the average viewer wouldn't know that Brainiac looks like a green skinned bald being in the comics and would more likely associate a bald head with Lex.

[JDS2930]

Well At first I thought it was Lex, but it's just like smallville to make us think it's Lex but it really not be.
It could go either way :]

Those were my thoughts exactly when I saw the ending, too. I think it's totally up in the air. It's a mystery that will keep us watching.

Things to think about:

Like this post says, it would be just like Smallville to make us think it's Lex but have it turn out to be Braniac. Like other posts have stated, if it turns out to be Braniac, it would jibe w/ his bald, connected w/ many wires in the head appearance in the comics.

If it's Lex, it definitely wasn't MR. And if this is the case, are the producers that confidant of getting him back? That's a pretty big assumption on their part. If they have gotten him back or have plans to, wouldn't we have had some kind of rumor leak by now?

[tornadobr]

It makes sense, I didnt pay attention to the music but now that you mentioned...

[crush41gb]

do you think Brainiac would infiltrate Lex's body?

[Super Maverick]

pretty sure it was LEX

[Joren DarkStar]

No new actors. And it better not be a "clone" as a excuse for a new actor, because guess what? A CLONE of MR still LOOKS JUST LIKE MR.

So "oh, it's a clone" makes NO SENSE.

Honestly, if MR refuses to return, then little things like this and hints are best how to approach Lex.

[Red Arrow Kuczynski]

Who do you guys think has Lex? Personally, I think MM/JJ has Lex hooked up to some sort of brain drain or something.

[Razzle]

i dont understand why it would be a clone... i am guessing that they will prolly just keep showing the back of lex's head in various locations just to build that suspense having him being all big brother but not physically appearing until the end of the season.

[Razzle]

Its definitly Lex my guess is after the incident in Arctic he must have been barely alive with some sort of mindwipe... thus the tubes and i am guessing the movie just to kind of remind of him everyone...

[midd]

do you think Brainiac would infiltrate Lex's body?

My theory, since its possible that lex could merge with brainiac, which would be awesome for season 8 / 9.
Is that when clark took chloe to jor el, and the ooze left chloe, and tainted the fortress, the ooze could have seeped into a dormant corpse trapped under or in the fortress, a corpse also known as lex.
so there is a possibility that we now have lexiac :)

[redeem147]

I'm not assuming that is Lex. It could well be.

But Brainiac in the comics is pictured as bald and hooked up to computers. That could be the real Brainiac and what we've seen are manifestations of him.

Whoever he is, I really want him to turn around. :)

[jglonek]

See I understand that, but I think that if they wanted us to see Brainiac we would see the Brainiac we know. Or at least someone looking closer to him than Lex.

I'm pretty sure it was meant to be Lex. Obviously it doesnt look like Lex because it's not Michael Rosenbaum but still. Just because it doesn't look exactly like him doesn't mean it's not meant to be him.

Also, there was a lot of talk about Lex tonight. So to show someone who looks almost exactly like Lex at the end, and have it meant to be some new form of Brainiac we haven't seen yet.. well, that just doesn't make sense.

[hiler1988]

I have no idea who that was...But I'm more than intrigued!!

[redeem147]

I think it was probably Lex. But I also think they might want us to think it's Lex and it isn't. It certainly has me wanting to know what's going on.

[Iluvgreen]

Well, I think that Lana found him, and they are working togetther now. I think he might be hooked up to wires because he was stuck at the arctic! That could really kill a guy.

[Iluvgreen]

It was Lex. ANd Lex is X if you ask me. Sending Tess emails and all. I'm just wondering if Lana is working with him.

[Alpha Coyote]

That is a great theory

[Alpha Coyote]

Who is MR?

[roccanater]

I cannot be completely sure it was Lex but if it was I'd say he made a deal with Brainiac somehow and the wires are Brainiac's doing.

[nemrod]

there are lots of versions of brainiac where he is bald and covered in tubes and wires...

[Alpha Coyote]

so nemrod do you think it is Brainiac that we saw in the tubes and wires?

[CKislife]

i think that it was definitely Lex, and I agree with some post's that say Lana is worknig with Lex. How else would Lex have gotten the video?

[LionelLuthor]

Michael Rosenbaum.

[Alpha Coyote]

thanks.

[C Redfield]

i think that it was definitely Lex, and I agree with some post's that say Lana is worknig with Lex. How else would Lex have gotten the video?

That is definitly Lex in recovery from Plastic surgery after the bulk of his body is ridled with frostbite paid for by himself. I completely agree with this quote but can't type anymore without SPOILERS from upcoming episodes.:\

[christian_kryptonian]

It was Lex. Definitely.

AND I LOVE IT!

[christian_kryptonian]

It was certainly Lex, and ow I'm convinced he's the one that sent the crystal to Clark.

[Chlollie]

No its not Lex. I don't think so. The picture we see its not from a vidoe tape, it doesn't have the white lines or the play thing on the bottem.

[TheLastKryptonian]

I'm pretty sure that was Lex.

Though it's possible Brainiac may be merged with him to some extent. Which I wouldn't mind since the DC Animated Universe already did that in Justice League Unlimited and it was brilliant! What's funny is that even Superman was no match for "Lexiac" (or "Luthoriac" depending on what name you prefer) and it was The Flash who saved the world that day.

FYI Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor on Smallville :p) voices Wally West/The Flash on Justice League/Justice League Unlimited. :D

The Flash vs Lexiac/Luthoriac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53OyPYa7SEI

Lexiac/Luthoriac transformation pic
http://i34.tinypic.com/28qmop.jpg

Lexiac/Luthoriac full form pic
http://i34.tinypic.com/jhswtk.jpg

[Carolina87]

I'm pretty sure that was Lex.

Though it's possible Brainiac may be merged with him to some extent. Which I wouldn't mind since the DC Animated Universe already did that in Justice League Unlimited and it was brilliant! What's funny is that even Superman was no match for "Lexiac" (or "Luthoriac" depending on what name you prefer) and it was The Flash who saved the world that day.

The Flash vs Lexiac/Luthoriac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53OyPYa7SEI

Lexiac/Luthoriac transformation pic
http://i34.tinypic.com/28qmop.jpg

Lexiac/Luthoriac full form pic
http://i34.tinypic.com/jhswtk.jpg

LOL Boomerang just played that eppy of JL last week! I would know i watched it.

and that was definetely Lex! but heres what i believe; I think that Lana is working for Tess. Helping her look for Lex for personal reason but Tess doesn't know that ofcourse.

[finalbahamut]

I'm assuming that was Lex but no way that it can be Michael. Throughout this season maybe they'll just hide Lex face coz it's impossible to get MR.

[Clark-Bizarro]

That was weird Lex at the end hooked up to the computer system

[ForzaItalia]

Dude, if that was Lex he has a freakishly long neck all of a sudden.

Well, if it was suppose to be Lex, it obviously wasn't really Michael Rosenbaum - it was a stunt double.... But the wires make me think it was Brainiac.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

I thought we saw the back of Brainiac
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/392433-73119-brainiac_super.jpg

[mof123]

i know, but it amazed me like hell!!!
i love Smallville's cliffhangers

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I'm starting to think that it might've been Brainiac.

[fa8362]

I'm guessing it's Lex and they're trying to set the viewers up for his possible return (played by a different actor).

[DonnerR]

The scene look very similar (san video screening on wall) to Lex being hooked up by tubes and electrodes and his arms spreadeagled out in one of the comics, probably "All Star Superman" or one of the Krypton themed story, I couldn't remember which issues but I read it briefly once.

Edit: It's from the 1st issue of All Star Superman, I have a screenshot of 8th page:
http://xs133.xs.to/xs133/08475/allstarsuperman_1380.jpg (http://xs.to)

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

it had to be lex. duh. that is the assumption. why else would they have made it look like lex? lol. it was lex.

just not michael rosenbaum.

[justme_007]

but if they bring lex back, i demand them to hire Michael Rosenbaum, not another one.... please =)

[neo0721]

lets say it is lex their is that a minor tease the michael would be coming back to the series eventually

[haydenclaireheroes]

Everyone here is saying that was Lex, but when I first saw it I thought it was Brainiac, just with no hair.... There are many comics when Brainiac has wires to his head like that and is bald (and has green skin)..... But why would Lex have wires to his head?

i think it is lex but it can be braniac because michael rosenbaum is not coming back but james masters would!

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


How could it have been Brainiac when all thats left of him is in Chloe? It was Lex.

true that!!

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I guess it comes down to one of two possibilities. And there's evidence on both sides.

[Moac]

Lex Luther can NOT die, Only his actors! ;)

I think its Lex, and I HOPE that Michael Rosenbaum Returns..=) he spends 7 seasons, why not a couple more?:rotfl:

[J_woman_power]

I really do think that it was Lex... I was freaking out when I first saw him on screen hooked up to all those wires. I see where people are coming from when they say Brainiac, but the camera purposefully panned over the bald head first to emphasize that it is intended to be Lex (at least that's what I think). I just wish MR would be back because I don't know where they could be going with this storyline if Lex can't be in the episodes.

[kryptonhero25]

Its not lex. You thinking its stupid that Braniac would want to watch Chloe during her wedding and watch Doomsday is ridiculous. Its not about her wedding, its watching Doomsday inflict his wrath. Braniac infected the fortress and made it that of Doomsday. So yeah he would want to watch Doomsday attack.

[pbush77]

Eh? I'm surprised this question is even being asked. Who else could it be that would have any relevance whatsoever to the show, and then be shown as the very last clip of the mid-season cliffhanger???

Sorry, but it doesn't make sense as anybody else at all. Not even Brainiac... that would be no revelation, we've been dealing with him all season.

Obviously, though, it wasn't Michael Rosenbaum playing Lex. They didn't need him, really, and he's refusing to come back. Personally, I believe they are keeping the Lex story open merely because it would be too unbelievable to have him be completely forgotten by the other characters after seven years of mischief-making. And of course, he cannot die on Smallville, so this is a fun way to show he's still going to be around in the future.

I think that the only possibility would be hearing Michael R in a phone call. He wouldn't have to shave his head that way. He's not coming back any time soon. :(

[superhippie2000]

good point. it seems like he was when he was posioned at the end of 3 but this seems worse. im sure a normal person would already be dead.

as far as being brainiac i dont think tptb would be that creative and if they are i dont think they would have time to do that whole plotline with the plotline of doomsday and whatever tess is doing with the evil power people.

[Disco_Lemonade]

I'm 99.02 % sure that it was Lex. Though the neck was way to long... That was just ridiculous; half of what was shown on the ending scene was NECK!!! That actor was a freaking giraffe. But anyways, Lexiac theories could prove to make season eight interesting, since it is fairly odd that this is the first time that we've seen Lex... right after the Brain Interactive Construct tainted the fortress. But who knows? :D

[redeem147]

So our choices are an actor who swears he's never coming back, or an actor who's filming for SciFi in Romania then going on a world tour to promote Dragonball.

Hmmmmmm....

[superman_reboot]

They obviously set it up so we would debate here for 2 months whether its brainaic or lex...it good go either way...it could be brainaic for obvious reasons and it could be lex too...afterall, lex could somehow be trapped in the FOS himself...could be part of what happened to him as a result of controlling clark...if it is lex, i do hope its MR making an appearance, not another actor...we'll have to wait til Jan 15th to find out...

[KalEltheBoyscout]

I'm pretty sure it was Lex. He's bald and he would need life support. I wouldn't expect him to return without a scratch. I mean after all, a Fortress fell over him.

[superman_reboot]

It is obviously a tease for Lex...bald head hooked up to wires facing away from us...knowing we've watched SV for 7 seasons who else would they want to tease us with in a mid-season cliffhanger? lol...MR won't be back so hopefully its not another actor, clone or no clone...what if its portrayed as Lex somehow trapped in the FOS as a result of what happened when he took "control" of Clark?...then when Brainaic infected and took over the FOS he now somehow is using Lex's body to come back...the end scene watching the wedding could've been a symbol of Brainaic erasing Cloe's memory again...as much as I myself would love to see MR back, it won't happen...I would love it though if MR was in the Series Finale even just for a minute to say to Clark "Remember Clark, there comes a time when even Gods must die."...and then just turn and walk away like only MR can do...

[Crispin Glover]

Here's why I think this:

It could be what's happened to Chloe? The bald person hooked up could be Chloe later after the scene where she smiles. Braniac and the whole Doomsday thing could have done this to her. One of her abilities is the process video images and data very fast. Would it not make sense that this new version of Chloe is reminiscing on her wedding day, since very little is left of Chloe's mind? That would be horrific and really put Clark over the edge as to his affect on others, especially his best friend.

If it's Lex that would work too, but only if the show's able to get Michael Rosenbaum back.

If it's Braniac in the future, that would be cool too, but only if the show was able to get James Marsters back.

It's very interesting, and hopefully leads too much, much more unexpected stuff this season.

[TWLOVER03]

I have to disagree because the figure looked to big and masculine to be a female

[Crispin Glover]

After looking at it more, it does seem closer and closer to being Lex, but I'm just concerned at how much this season builds on where Lex is and what he's doing if Michael Rosenbaum doesn't come back for the season finale. It would be a big let down. If he came back for the season finale it would easily put this season up at the top of the best, finally having a season with completeness to it.

[LordOnox]

After looking at it more, it does seem closer and closer to being Lex, but I'm just concerned at how much this season builds on where Lex is and what he's doing if Michael Rosenbaum doesn't come back for the season finale. It would be a big let down. If he came back for the season finale it would easily put this season up at the top of the best, finally having a season with completeness to it.

The one thing that stops me from seeing it being lex is the longer neck

[Kevin24]

What if it's Brainiac inside of Chloe's mind watching her memories?

[switchfoot]

If they're planning on bringing Lex back they should get Howie Mandel from deal or no deal. They kinda look the same.

[SuperOlli]

My money´s on Lex. Those wires didn´t go in/come out of his skull. They were dermal electrodes, like an EEG. Also why would Brainiac need to be hooked up to IV lines since he can regenerate/cure his host´s body (at least in the comics and animated series)?

[legofreak]

It is Lex. Superman married him already .... till death keep them apart ^^

[Xanusus]

My personal belief is that it was Lex(played by a stand-in actor until MR comes back on for an episode or 2).

As to the wires and all - my thinking is that those wires are some kind of recuperation technology that Lex is using to get back to full health. I mean, after all, the freakin fortress fell on him! It would be kinda hard to see him come away from that with no serious injuries. These wires and all are just there to show us that he's still not full speed yet. If you'll go back and look at the frame it's not wires only but also tubes as in hospital feeding tubes

I don't think they in any way intimate a brainiac connection or the tubes and wires wouldn't have been everywhere over his body, just on his head.

Anyways, I'm not in the know or anything but I think we have a deal working out behind closed doors at the CW to get MR to come back for 1-4 episodes like KK is doing now.

[fattire]

its a sick form of lex which explains why he is in hiding

needing tubes, he is weak, and is profiting from the fact that nobody knows where he is

[Kschreck]

I believe that the character portrayed in the ending of "Bride" is indeed the famed Lex Luthor and I will attempt to explain why this is what I believe. First I thought Xanusus brought up some good points:



As to the wires and all - my thinking is that those wires are some kind of recuperation technology that Lex is using to get back to full health. I mean, after all, the freakin fortress fell on him! It would be kinda hard to see him come away from that with no serious injuries. These wires and all are just there to show us that he's still not full speed yet. If you'll go back and look at the frame it's not wires only but also tubes as in hospital feeding tubes

I don't think they in any way intimate a brainiac connection or the tubes and wires wouldn't have been everywhere over his body, just on his head.


Beyond that, we already had a Brainiac infected Chloe and a Brainiac infected Fortress of Solitude. It would make no sense whatsoever to have yet a third form of the same Brainiac all within a few episodes apart from each other. It would be way to confusing and quite frankly, dumb.

Secondly, I don't think it's Brainiac 5 simply because I just can't see them placing two different Brainiacs within the same episodes, so close together. Again, just seems illogical to me.

We know from the spoilers that Luthorcorp is experimenting on Lana and they are what is keeping Lana alive. I don't think Tess has ever met Lana and has anything to do with these experiments. Lana was gone before Tess ever appeared. Lana is obviously working with someone (cell phone text mails, etc) and if it's not Tess then chances are that it is Lex or Dr. Grohl.

Other ideas you guys brought up such as the music lyrics played over showing the bald head, helped to suggest a possible hint toward Lex Luthor. It is clear that the producers want people to think it is Lex Luthor. It's a good teaser. The producers, however, are known for teasing and then doing something totally different.

The wires that are hooked up to Lex at the end appear to be medical equipment rather then being used for simply powering something like Brainiac would use.

It's difficult to say for sure what is going on in this "Bald Guy" clup but my money is riding on it being Lex. I would be soarly disappointed if they cop out and just have this relating to Brainiac.

Brainiac has never been bald and has never hooked up to machines to stay alive (he always used kryptonite or electric power grids or whatever to power himself. Would make no sense for him to be in a dark room powering up in this manner while watching Doomsday destroy Chloe's wedding when Brainiac is suppose to be infused in the Fortress of Solitude and again it would be just dumb to have Brainiac 5 in the show with the other Brainiac being a highlight and we know that the Legion of Super Heroes deals with a Chloe infected Brainiac as well as "the Persuader" which to me means that there is simply no story slot open for any "other" version of Brainiac.

It's either Lex or someone else altogether that has not been mentioned yet but I would be shocked if it wasn't Lex. Also the producers could be leaving the Lex story arc wide open for a possible return of Lex and if Michael never comes back to do the part then just completely leave it open for the possible season 9 or just have another character come in to explain the bald guy scene.

[Karafan1]

What if it wasn't lex. What if it was Brainiac 5 looking at footage of the wedding. It is the perfect reason for the legion to show up next episode.



Who or what is Brainiac 5?

[SuperOlli]

Who or what is Brainiac 5?

Brainiac 5 is the 31st century´s descendant of the current Brainiac. Over time Brainiac learned how to passs on his programming to organic beings without parts of him residing in them. Brainiac 5´s an organic being with Brainiac´s intelligence (maybe even more) who is fighting for good in the Legion of Superheroes.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

I thought it was Brainiac at first, I was all excited that they were finally having him build a new body. BUT, he was watching the wedding video. How would Brainiac have gotten his hands on the wedding vid? It was Lex, who is in contact with Lana, who had access to the vid.

The Brainiac 5 idea also crossed my mind, but he is not going to be in the LoS epi, so it wouldn't make sense. Would work for DD and Brainiac to be the reason that the LoS comes back, I have read that Brainiac did a stint in the head of DD, that would be bad.

[Karafan1]

Brainiac 5 is the 31st century´s descendant of the current Brainiac. Over time Brainiac learned how to passs on his programming to organic beings without parts of him residing in them. Brainiac 5´s an organic being with Brainiac´s intelligence (maybe even more) who is fighting for good in the Legion of Superheroes.


Thanks, I've never read any Superman comics so I had no idea who Brainiac 5 was..

[bizzaro93]

Someone on another section of these boards suggests it was neitther Lex or Brainiac, but it was actually Brainiac 5 in the far future looking back at years ago. That would make a lot of sense because the Legion of Super Heroes are coming in the very next episode. So perhaps Brainac 5 saw this, and he will tell Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Lighting Lad they should travel back in time to help Clark defeat Chloe "the vessel of Brainiac" Sullivan.. If that's true, it's a pretty awesome way to set up the next episode.

All I can say is wow. I would have NEVER thought of that. That just blew me away.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

In the Geoff Johns article, it confirmed that it was Lex.

In all honesty, why would anyone think it wasn't Lex?

[fa8362]

"Brainiac has never been bald"

Both the original Braniac and Braniac 5 were bald...and green in the Superman and Legion comics from the 60s and 70s.

[halo204561]

Look if it were Brainiac I think they'd make it more obvious than that. In my opinion, there is no way that it was not Lex. Clark survived the fortress' collapse and his powers were stripped by Jor-El. Who knows what happened to Lex?

[alejandrita439]

i think it was lex :)
but it wasnt michael rosembaum :(

[vikingjedi]

What if it's Brainiac inside of Chloe's mind watching her memories?

What if lex is literally inside the FOS, like in the computer.

[Disco_Lemonade]

The one thing that stops me from seeing it being lex is the longer neck

Thank you! I thought I was the only one peeved by the giraffe on the screen! :rotfl:

[dru-zod2501]

yes, yes you are the only one

[6-Super-Man -5]

Chloe is bald? :p

[The Great Ymmij]

If you read the new interview with Geoff Johns, it's confirmed that the bald guy at the end is Lex.

[alejandrita439]

hahahaha i dont agree with you :lol:

[6-Super-Man -5]

If you read the new interview with Geoff Johns, it's confirmed that the bald guy at the end is Lex.

Yeah, its strange.
I wonder if the next time we see Lex, he'll have holes in him from the tubes.

[Kuzz]

At the end it was definatly lex!!! she showed brainiac through chloe at the end so they would not show him again.... and its just a clue something to tell people that lex will be back....

And think about it the reason he wud have tubes n stuff coming out of him is that he was in the arctic he would of been hurt or had something wrong with him....

DEFINATLY LEX!!!!

- Kuzz

[Bethel-Knee]

dude if i was caught up in arctic mayhem and caught underneath the fortress, yea i'd be hooked up to wires too. even lex and his rockin immune system had to have been affected.

[yomama]

I must be totally nuts to be suggesting this, and I can't even conceive of a plotline where this would make sense, but this thought won't let me go.

I was rewatching Odyssey tonight. The guy who plays Regan Matthews? He has a REALLY long neck, and a few people have commented on how whoever it is at the end seems to have a freakishly long neck--maybe too long to be Lex. If you shaved Regan's head...?

Personally, Lex or even Brainiac 5 makes more sense to me, but this wouldn't be the first time TPTB pulled a switcheroo.

Can ANYONE think of a plotline where this would makes sense?!? Someone, please give me a good reason why this ISN'T the case so I can stop thinking about it!

[Darren5000]

Someone on another section of these boards suggests it was neitther Lex or Brainiac, but it was actually Brainiac 5 in the far future looking back at years ago. That would make a lot of sense because the Legion of Super Heroes are coming in the very next episode. So perhaps Brainac 5 saw this, and he will tell Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Lighting Lad they should travel back in time to help Clark defeat Chloe "the vessel of Brainiac" Sullivan.. If that's true, it's a pretty awesome way to set up the next episode.

Yeah, but wasn't Chloe 'exorcised' of Brainiac when Clark rebuilt the FOrtress/talked to Jor El, and then Chloe made to 'forget things?' How could Brainiac have re-entered Chloe?

Maybe it's really Zod that's in Chloe now, never know!:rotfl:

Chloe: I am General Zod. you will kneel before me, Kal El.:rotfl::rotfl:

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I don't get why people would think it was Braniac, when he is in Chloe. So, obviously, it was Lex.

----- Added 31 Seconds later -----


Yeah, but wasn't Chloe 'exorcised' of Brainiac when Clark rebuilt the FOrtress/talked to Jor El, and then Chloe made to 'forget things?' How could Brainiac have re-entered Chloe?

Maybe it's really Zod that's in Chloe now, never know!:rotfl:

Chloe: I am General Zod. you will kneel before me, Kal El.:rotfl::rotfl:

:rotfl::rotfl:

[disciples of zod]

yup. Lex, for sure! =D

~H

----- Added 30 Seconds later -----

but probably not michael! =(

~H

[Xanusus]

I answered this same issue in another thread that got into who it was at the end of "Bride".

I'll just briefly go over the 3 clues that I believe strongly lean towards this being Lex.

1)He's bald (could be any of several bald characters. not a real big clue but still fits Lex)

2)He's hooked up to MEDICAL equipment. Most other characters don't seem to fit this piece of evidence. Remember Lex is the one that the fortress fell on. He most certainly would have use for MEDICAL equipment given his condition. Other bald characters? Not so much. If you look at the last scene you can clearly see the oxygen tubes and IV tubes in conjunction with what looks like EKG wiring.

3)This is the big one. BODILY SCARS. To my knowledge Lex is the only one I'm aware of that would have a scar in the right place in the final scene to fit the person. For those who'd like to know what I'm talking about here's a final scene screen capture with the areas of interest marked out.

http://s427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/Xanusus/?action=view&current=lexproof.jpg

For those wandering how Lex got that scar remember he was shot at close range in "Sneeze" during the 6th season. The trajectory of the bullet and angle of the gun would have created the indention exit would you see in the final clip of "Bride". Lex has been shot before but all the times before the bullet needed to pass through the mass of his body and possibly bones thus not creating an exit wound. But in "Sneeze" the bullet entered his soft upper arm/shoulder muscle and easily passed through creating the exit would you see here in the final clip of "Bride"

[heartofsteel]

The bald-headed character that appeared to be watching events on the large display screen at the end of the episode...did I miss the spoiler on that or does anyone know who thats supposed to be?

[Just Another Guy]

It's Lex, you silly goose.

[heartofsteel]

I was half-distracted by my girlfriends kids while trying to catch the very ending, it looked like he had metallic wings or something on, or maybe it was the chair he was sitting in

[Ray Man]

I was half-distracted by my girlfriends kids while trying to catch the very ending, it looked like he had metallic wings or something on, or maybe it was the chair he was sitting in

The person in the chair was hooked up to the screens via the cables so that he could watch and hear 'em all at the same time. Btw, just cuz the person watching the screens was bald, doesn't mean it's Lex, the PTB could just be messing w/us. :mad:

[SVsleuth]

Maybe it's a clone of Lex...

[lifelovedestiny]

It could be some version of Lex, or like Ray said, it could not be Lex at all

[jasmin28]

I thought it was pretty clear that it was Lex. We'll just have to wait and see next year :)

[Just Another Guy]

The PS3 wouldn't be so silly as to make it anyone else. Even their advice to the viewer concerning "Bride" ("Don't miss the last few seconds!") tells us that they put it there intentionally. Why place a bald character in the scene, just to reveal later that it isn't Lex? If it wasn't Lex, they could've just shown him. And there's no other reason to place an mysterious, completely uninvolved individual in the scene, except to show that Lex is still around somewhere.

[Iluvgreen]

It is so totally Lex Luthor.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I thought either Lex or a Braniac from the Future.