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jimmyolsenblues
11-20-2008, 07:11 PM
that was heavy...i think they are implying that clark and lois are being put on the backburner...it was just getting good.

wish lana stayed away

individuall
11-20-2008, 07:21 PM
Well obviously, I mean Lois isn't going to be in the next 4 eppys after the break..So that means no Clois for a while...*sigh*
It was a powerful scene...Beautiful and heartbreaking...You could definitely see when Lois turned away the wall were going up...High and thick..Clark's going to have a heck of time when she returns..I hope he doesn't disappoint..

doodie8808
11-20-2008, 07:23 PM
Lana needs to like leave she was annoying tonight i love ericas acting it was awesome

Wicked Lois
11-20-2008, 07:26 PM
That was heavy indeed!!!

LightSeeker
11-20-2008, 08:09 PM
I kept screaming at the tv, "Clark run after her!" Her walls are going to come up indeed. It's going to be like Fort Knox trying to get passed that. Poor Clark. It's a good thing he's Superman.

AndiGirl
11-20-2008, 08:13 PM
I agree, it was obvious that they are putting this on hold for awhile. But what a beautiful way to end it. :lol: Just a very touching Clois episode.

Lois is putting up her walls...because she doesnt know if she is ready for Clark to be her prince charming. Then...I had a feeling Lois's comment "Why do all of these horrible things keep happening around us" and they show clarks sad face. He's also probably afraid of getting involved with her as well. Especially since he just mind wiped Chloe because she had gotten too close.

So...while the episode was stunning, I think Lois walking away was very symbolic.

liana
11-20-2008, 08:32 PM
I agree, it was obvious that they are putting this on hold for awhile. But what a beautiful way to end it. :lol: Just a very touching Clois episode.

Lois is putting up her walls...because she doesnt know if she is ready for Clark to be her prince charming. Then...I had a feeling Lois's comment "Why do all of these horrible things keep happening around us" and they show clarks sad face. He's also probably afraid of getting involved with her as well. Especially since he just mind wiped Chloe because she had gotten too close.

So...while the episode was stunning, I think Lois walking away was very symbolic.

Of course it was symbolic. It was symbolic that 7 years of clana is not enough for the producers, and that they don't want Clark to ever let go of Lana. It pretty much tells me that they have sucessfully ruined 70 years of an amazing romance between Clark Kent and Lois Lane by making just for the sake of fans that have already left the show when KK left.

Sorry, but I am bitter now. They could have written it better, but instead, they have chosen to ruin all the first half of the season for Lana's sake. Again. It is season 6 all over again. *sigh* We even had the classic Clark not caring about anyone else who was getting hurt, because Lana got a slight injury on her leg. :rolleyes: And DS did say that Clark would not regress when Lana came back. Yeah. :\ Right. :rolleyes:

pizzahead2490
11-20-2008, 08:34 PM
when lana interrupted i scearmed so loud i am sure my next door people heard me. you guys dont even want to know what i did to the pillow that was next to me, lets just say i iamgined it was lana.

Ginx
11-20-2008, 08:41 PM
Well obviously, I mean Lois isn't going to be in the next 4 eppys after the break..So that means no Clois for a while...*sigh*
It was a powerful scene...Beautiful and heartbreaking...You could definitely see when Lois turned away the wall were going up...High and thick..Clark's going to have a heck of time when she returns..I hope he doesn't disappoint..

I think Clark will be professing to her when she gets back. I know she prob needs to figure things out for herself. I'm sure she's confused right now. I hope he doesn't disappoint either!

cloisthelegendbegins
11-20-2008, 08:56 PM
IMO The producers have a LOT of work to do after this episode. And I'm not just talking about Clark and Lois. I mean on many levels. They tried to pack WAY too much into Bride and it showed.

But I'm gonna watch it another couple of times before I vote on any polls or comment any further. Right now my initial reaction is leaning too heavily towards disappointment. And frankly that's hurting after how much I've enjoyed this season so far. Wrong note to go out on before the break. Just WRONG. :(

On a side note - K-Site is a COW to get onto tonight. I completely understand why but... sigh... Just - SIGH.... Pretty much sums up how I feel in general right now.

Loisdragon
11-20-2008, 08:56 PM
I thought that walked she did was fierce and the look on Clark face when she was leaving was priceless. It's like he thought to himself damn I lost her

kryptonaidxh
11-20-2008, 09:17 PM
Lana needs to like leave she was annoying tonight i love ericas acting it was awesome

Indeed!, I hate Lana and the inopportune moment she came back to ruin our Clois moment!:mad: I wanr her out already, those 5 episodes without Lois will be hard even when I won´t watch them:(

Shadowlord367
11-20-2008, 09:26 PM
I think Lana's arc will merely stimulate Clark and Lois' relationship.

akaLane
11-20-2008, 09:28 PM
I loved that walking away moment and the way Clark looked after her. Together with the music:

I am looking for an inspiration
And I think I found it in your heart
It's the kind of thing you get when you're not looking
It's the kind of thing you had from the start

...

Please, don't take your love away from me
Don't take your love away from me
Please don't take your love away from me

SteveS
11-20-2008, 09:29 PM
Yep, lois is head over heels in luv with ClarkMan, but once he turns with a stunned look to Lana, lois is off to get drunk on the porch. Too bad, but the the scenario with Clark's first love, Lana, must run it's course and lois needs to address her weakness for alcohol.

AndiGirl
11-20-2008, 09:32 PM
Of course it was symbolic. It was symbolic that 7 years of clana is not enough for the producers, and that they don't want Clark to ever let go of Lana. It pretty much tells me that they have sucessfully ruined 70 years of an amazing romance between Clark Kent and Lois Lane by making just for the sake of fans that have already left the show when KK left.

Sorry, but I am bitter now. They could have written it better, but instead, they have chosen to ruin all the first half of the season for Lana's sake. Again. It is season 6 all over again. *sigh* We even had the classic Clark not caring about anyone else who was getting hurt, because Lana got a slight injury on her leg. :rolleyes: And DS did say that Clark would not regress when Lana came back. Yeah. :\ Right. :rolleyes:

Oh I understand, no worries. :)
But I think CLois fans need to realize what a victory this is. Think where we were a year ago....occasional interaction and flirtation between the two. Now...it cant be denied by a single person on this board that the two are not only into eachother, that they were about to kiss tonight.

The show has come light years in that aspect alone. :p

Wicked Lois
11-20-2008, 09:33 PM
Yep, lois is head over heels in luv with ClarkMan, but once he turns with a stunned look to Lana, lois is off to get drunk on the porch. Too bad, but the the scenario with Clark's first love, Lana, must run it's course and lois needs to address her weakness for alcohol.



^lol

yeah, right.

pizzahead2490
11-20-2008, 09:36 PM
i agree with your post andi, the clois realationship has defintly grew alot over these pass few years

SteveS
11-20-2008, 10:37 PM
^lol

yeah, right.

Good, glad you could see the program clearly despite the rose colored glasses.

Whew! He has lois in the palm of his hand, she is like nutty putty.:rotfl:

svtwamedfan05
11-20-2008, 11:24 PM
that was heavy...i think they are implying that clark and lois are being put on the backburner...it was just getting good.

wish lana stayed away

Agreed

ginnyfan
11-20-2008, 11:26 PM
Lana and Clark have issues to resolve. But after "Bride" I don't know that they are going to do a good job of resolving them. All that stuff Lana was saying... not much of it made sense to me. ???

old guy
11-21-2008, 12:25 AM
I have really found the episodes that have been "Lana-free" to be very refreshing. So I had very mixed feelings about her return in this episode. I expected her to ruin things. But after watching it, my take is that it wasn't that bad.

Clark and Lana never had the chance to say what they need to say, feel what they need to feel, and move on. Lana just left a video and disappeared. So I think from Clark's point of view, she just left but there was never any real closure. I get the sense that during Lana's gig (what is it, like 4 episodes or so?), they will get a chance to have that closure. And Clark definitely needs that before he can truly give his heart to someone else, like Lois. No question in my mind that Lois loves Clark, although yes she was clearly hurt by Lana's return and is predictably (and rightfully) building her own fortress walls to protect herself from another heartbreak. And Clark isn't in any position to reciprocate those feelings since he is still going through his own angst at wiping Chloe's memory and feels that Lana would have been better off not knowing his secret as well. That is weighing HUGE on his mind and would hold him back from getting close to anyone right now unless and until he gets past his guilt and resolves that issue in his mind.

I believe that getting closure with Lana will ultimately put him in a position where he is ready to confront his own feelings for Lois. For this to happen, I think that the closure process has to convince Clark that they didn't break up because of the pressure of Lana knowing his secret. He needs to truly believe they broke up because they just weren't right for each other after all - secret or no secret. He has to be convinced that it is OK for him to eventually be able to tell Lois his secret without it jeopardizing a romantic relationship. Right now he is not at all convinced at that, which keeps Clark's own wall up. It will take time for Clark to knock Lois's wall down as well as his own. We (and they) just need to be patient - it won't happen overnight.

STFanatic
11-21-2008, 12:30 AM
On a side note - K-Site is a COW to get onto tonight. I completely understand why but... sigh... Just - SIGH.... Pretty much sums up how I feel in general right now.

We actually made history tonight at KryptonSite, there were more visitors and members on here than ever before.

1788 users online all at one time.

I am fairly sure the problems we had will not happen next time as we are assured that there will be a backup server in place well before the episode airs.

Minela
11-21-2008, 12:32 AM
The final Clois hug and Lois walking away were my favorite parts of the episode. It was so great. Lois, I miss you already. :(

yosemiteangel
11-21-2008, 12:51 AM
I thought that walked she did was fierce and the look on Clark face when she was leaving was priceless. It's like he thought to himself damn I lost her

I had a little of this feeling as well.

cloisthelegendbegins
11-21-2008, 12:53 AM
We actually made history tonight at KryptonSite, there were more visitors and members on here than ever before.

1788 users online all at one time.

I am fairly sure the problems we had will not happen next time as we are assured that there will be a backup server in place well before the episode airs.

Figured it had to do with high numbers ;) GO KRYPTONSITE!!!

And I'm calmer after my second viewing. Just goes to show what a good job the PS3 are doing this year that I had such an emotional reaction the first time round :o

When it comes to Lois and Clark on the 'back-burner' I disagree. I think once the Lana arc is resolved the relationship will be flipped over and we'll see Clark fall just as hard for Lois as she did for him. His problem will then be her emotional defenses and his alter ego the blue and red blur... ;)

SUPERMANUSA
11-21-2008, 01:48 AM
I kept screaming at the tv, "Clark run after her!"

I think you hit the nail on the head!
100% agree. She stopped to see if Clark was watching her (expressing interest) and wanted him to go with her! Even at that difficult moment, she wanted to see if Clark would go after her and comfort her. He didn't do it! ONO!

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We actually made history tonight at KryptonSite, there were more visitors and members on here than ever before. 1788 users online all at one time. I am fairly sure the problems we had will not happen next time as we are assured that there will be a backup server in place well before the episode airs.Does that imply Smallville users? Or overall.

malcrew
11-21-2008, 02:01 AM
Dam Man! 4 episodes without Lois! That seems a bit much don't you think? I hope the ones without her are really good. Legion of Super Heroes - Saturn Girl, Lightning Lad and Cosmic boy? I hope this won't be cheesy.

It would be great if Kara were to be in those episodes!

STFanatic
11-21-2008, 06:58 AM
Does that imply Smallville users? Or overall.

That number is both registered members and guests just lurking & reading along.

Mickey_Bickey
11-21-2008, 07:10 AM
I absolutely loved the way they ended this! Lois walking away tall and STRONG. Yes, her walls are up, but I think that it opens the door that Clark is now going to have to be the pursuer. She opened herself up to him only to get her heart broken when Lana entered. She will not want that to happen again.

ED did such an AMAZING job tonight! Her vulnerbility and strength are all there. She is by far the best Lois Lane in history! TW too, did a fantastic job with just speaking with his eyes! Loved the whole dance scene and almost kiss. If only Lana stayed where she was!!;)

DontCha
11-21-2008, 07:32 AM
Yep, lois is head over heels in luv with ClarkMan, but once he turns with a stunned look to Lana, lois is off to get drunk on the porch. Too bad, but the the scenario with Clark's first love, Lana, must run it's course and lois needs to address her weakness for alcohol.

do you have any idea how it feels when this kind of thing happens to a woman? :rolleyes: when you feel needed by the man of your dreams only to have your heart ripped out seconds later?

love hurts, so much like your chest is gonna burst...Im going through something very similar to lois right now its creepy how similar it is, all the emotions, everything is what im going through. And I admit, I reached for the bubbly last night to try and dull the pain of my ripped open heart and it didnt help, just made things a hell of a lot worse.:rotfl: So yea maybe the booze isnt the best thing to reach for when ur sad.

Lois is totally and utterly in love with clark, and clark is still figuring it out, and that is where the problem lies. He IMO only has feelings for her by this point, lois is looking for any tiny scrap or indication that she is wanted by clark as much as she wants him. And when she gets it, her heart utterly sours with bliss and happiness, and then it gets snatched away, your emotions plummet to rock bottom in a fraction of a second and thats exactly what happened to me 2 days ago, I cried, i drank, got confused. I had no one to talk to, luckily Lois didnt actually drink all the booze because Olliver came in and talked to her?

aleferede
11-21-2008, 07:49 AM
definately an awesome way to make us hang on to see whats gonna happen. all the emotions flying last night were definately intense. Jan 15 seems so far away now. luckily i tivo every episode then burn off to dvd commercial free. with out commercials each episode is about 40 min in length. damn those commercials.

RKryp
11-21-2008, 08:25 AM
I have really found the episodes that have been "Lana-free" to be very refreshing. So I had very mixed feelings about her return in this episode. I expected her to ruin things. But after watching it, my take is that it wasn't that bad.

Clark and Lana never had the chance to say what they need to say, feel what they need to feel, and move on. Lana just left a video and disappeared. So I think from Clark's point of view, she just left but there was never any real closure. I get the sense that during Lana's gig (what is it, like 4 episodes or so?), they will get a chance to have that closure. And Clark definitely needs that before he can truly give his heart to someone else, like Lois. No question in my mind that Lois loves Clark, although yes she was clearly hurt by Lana's return and is predictably (and rightfully) building her own fortress walls to protect herself from another heartbreak. And Clark isn't in any position to reciprocate those feelings since he is still going through his own angst at wiping Chloe's memory and feels that Lana would have been better off not knowing his secret as well. That is weighing HUGE on his mind and would hold him back from getting close to anyone right now unless and until he gets past his guilt and resolves that issue in his mind.

I believe that getting closure with Lana will ultimately put him in a position where he is ready to confront his own feelings for Lois. For this to happen, I think that the closure process has to convince Clark that they didn't break up because of the pressure of Lana knowing his secret. He needs to truly believe they broke up because they just weren't right for each other after all - secret or no secret. He has to be convinced that it is OK for him to eventually be able to tell Lois his secret without it jeopardizing a romantic relationship. Right now he is not at all convinced at that, which keeps Clark's own wall up. It will take time for Clark to knock Lois's wall down as well as his own. We (and they) just need to be patient - it won't happen overnight.

I don't usually just quote a whole post, but this one was excellent. Very well said.

Now if I only had confidence that that's the way TPTB sees it and that they'll make it develop that way.

Sv.LoisLane
11-21-2008, 10:24 AM
Yep, lois is head over heels in luv with ClarkMan, but once he turns with a stunned look to Lana, lois is off to get drunk on the porch. Too bad, but the the scenario with Clark's first love, Lana, must run it's course and lois needs to address her weakness for alcohol.

Why do I have this deja vu feeling? Hmm... maybe because you stated this in pretty much every thread about Lois?


Annnnnnnnnnnyyywayyy.. back on topic. Lois walking away was very sad but also very symbolic. I liked that she was the one to leave Clark's arms and walk away. I liked Clark's 'I'm losing her' realization look. I liked the music. And most of all I liked how Lois was able to find the strenght to leave, hold back her tears and walk beside Jimmy. That's a real, strong woman, worthy of Clark's love. Clark will have to start the chasing and gain her trust again when she returns because she isn't going to wait for the world to stick the broken pieces while he's there ending the Clana drama. She's gonna do it herself!

SteveS
11-21-2008, 10:44 AM
Why yes, I have critiqued this episode and scenes similarly as it is this version of a lois that is so easy to repeatedly critique, it is the way that she is written and portrayed.

lois walked away to accompany Jimmy knowing that ClarkMan dropped lolo like a hot rock the moment that Lana appeared. lois knows that she can't compete with Lana in history, memories or the love of ClarkMan. And we disagree on lois strength or lack thereof. Her immediate turning to another potentially drunken moment, to drown and forget her sorrows, shows me that she is a very weak and emotionally dependent personality and needs to both sober-up and mature greatly before she is ever worthy of ClarkMan.

Turning to addictive sources be they alcohol or drugs in order to cope with personal problems is not the sign of stability in a person on an emotional level. Possibly in her 4 weeks absence, lois will seek professional help. She can't do it herself!

BadaBingBadaBoomsday
11-21-2008, 10:49 AM
If Lois truly loved Clark she would have fought for him, on the spot, not run away. <br />
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((If you want to see this fight check out my Harry Hill thread, its got lost in the depths, its not pay per view))

harryandginnyfanatic
11-21-2008, 11:03 AM
I like that Lois is doing the selfless thing and going with Jimmy.

With Chloe missing, Lois is really the only family that Jimmy has.

alejandrita439
11-27-2008, 01:56 PM
i loved that scene...
:)

umm
11-27-2008, 02:53 PM
I kept screaming at the tv, "Clark run after her!" Her walls are going to come up indeed. It's going to be like Fort Knox trying to get passed that. Poor Clark. It's a good thing he's Superman.

Yeah, he burned her good with his behaviour and that's going to put their relationship on some backburner!

aleferede
11-27-2008, 10:05 PM
i may be a little off topic with this one. i just watched superman and superman 2 the other day and in superman one the time frame jump in that movie was crazy. high school lana lang in that movie was for a brief 30 sec. segment and she was a red head. and the lois in love with superman thing started from the moment she met him. i think it would be cool to sit down and watch superman, superman 2, superman 3, and superman returns. but thats just me. c'mon jan 15th get here already, season 8 is burned on dvd and the tivo is empty and ready to record!!!!!

borednow
11-27-2008, 11:03 PM
I absolutely loved the way they ended this! Lois walking away tall and STRONG. Yes, her walls are up, but I think that it opens the door that Clark is now going to have to be the pursuer. She opened herself up to him only to get her heart broken when Lana entered. She will not want that to happen again.



Exactly! That's what I've been waiting to see for a while, why with how close Lois and Clark are that she would be so dismissive of a pursuit and said pursuit happening!

Clark-Lois
11-28-2008, 12:21 AM
I wanted Clark to run after her. or at least tell her that he has feelings for her but needs to find Chloe right now.

redkryptoniteisthebest
11-28-2008, 12:24 AM
At first, I honestly thought Lois was gonna run back to him and kiss/hug him or something. Sadly, that didn't happen.

This is off-topic, but when Clark hugged Lois, I didn't hear the "I" in, "I promise...we'll get Chloe back.", so I thought he was gonna tell her his secret. Did anyone else think that?

Sunny8
11-28-2008, 12:48 AM
Yep, lois is head over heels in luv with ClarkMan, but once he turns with a stunned look to Lana, lois is off to get drunk on the porch. Too bad, but the the scenario with Clark's first love, Lana, must run it's course and lois needs to address her weakness for alcohol.

That's the thing about Lois-she has her weak spots. No one is making her out to be a Mary Sue. Clark knows what he is getting with Lois because there is no pretense or hidden darkness with her. When she finally does get with Clark it will help her to be a better person and I think he will learn how to lighten up a little and not be so hard on himself with Lois.

SteveS
11-28-2008, 01:52 AM
I hope your assessment is correct, wouldn't accept it any other way.

geminis
11-28-2008, 09:16 AM
That's the thing about Lois-she has her weak spots. No one is making her out to be a Mary Sue. Clark knows what he is getting with Lois because there is no pretense or hidden darkness with her. When she finally does get with Clark it will help her to be a better person and I think he will learn how to lighten up a little and not be so hard on himself with Lois.

You are completely right; they'll help each other. Clark will help Lois with her foot in mouth complex and Lois will help Clark get over his guilt complex.

Lois walking away, while painful, shows exactly that. She was hurt, but despite her pain she's not going to stop Clark from attaining happiness with Lana, if that is truly what he wants. I am in awe of her nobility.

Eurynome
12-12-2008, 10:01 AM
I think Lana's arc will merely stimulate Clark and Lois' relationship.

I agree with you. I don't think Lana wants a romantic relationship with Clark anymore judging the conversation between them in Bride. Eventually, Clark will realize he doesn't want a romantic relationship with Lana either and will move towards Lois.

Iluvgreen
12-13-2008, 11:01 AM
Well I think it will be put off for a little while, just because Lana came back, and I think they will put walls around themselves for a while.