The look of Doomsday............(several threads merged)

[connorkent]

Ok I was searching around for a picture of doomsday and I understand that each artist creates there own take on the character, but look at this version and notice how similar it is to the smallville version, I think the producers have got it spot on.

[Alpha Coyote]

They have really thought it threw and did a fantstic job on creating him.

[Cloisfan22]

i think that Doomsday looks awesome and hope to see clark fighting him and not just getting pummeled

[Alpha Coyote]

Now I really can't wait for next weeks episode. Also if you have an iTunes account you download the Episode Bride the very next day. Which I can't wait for either because then I can go back and watch the epp over again. AWSOME

[costas22]

I think that the picture where he holds Chloe's face is spot on.The other one where he is in front of Jimmy looks like he is wearing a costume.We will have to wait and see.But the first picture is 100% Doomsday.Nice work PS3!To be honest i didn't expect them to do this.I was expecting Sam Witwer deformed with tons of make up.It is the first time we get a real monster on Smallville.This show has really changed from the first season.Anyway,seeing this effects,it somehow explains why the next episodes don't have many cast members.The budget must have really taken a hit in order to bring Doomsaday to life.That's why we might see him for a few shots at Bride.Maybe they are saving some effects for later.

[finalbahamut]

Couldn't agree more!

[ForzaItalia]

Does anyone know if Doomsday is CGI or costume? It looks like a costume to me (and I'm hoping so because those always look so much better) but I can't tell for sure.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I'm pretty sure its both.

[6-Super-Man -5]

They did a fantastic job, I thought it would be a semi-Doomsday, but no, its his full look! :D

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'm guessing it's a guy in a costume with certain aspects (such as the glowing red eyes) being CG.

[myankskent]

I'm pretty sure its both.

That would be my guess. I'm surprised TPTB have the budget to pull something like this off. With Bizarro, he didn't have the cracked face all of the time but with Doomsday, whenever we see him, there are major effects shots that need to be done.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Looks great. :)

[justme_007]

i am sorry. what does CGI means?

[ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva]

i am sorry. what does CGI means?
Computer Generated Image.

[costas22]

I don't know what the initials mean but i think CGI are computerized effects.For example the water of the dam evaporating at Bizarro was CGI.I also think that for Doomsday they will use both methods.

[BrianD]

yea he looks similar to the way he does in the comics. and for people wondering if its completely cgi or just a man in a suit, its a combination of both. when doomsday is fighting and moving around most of it is cgi. the still shots of him like it shows in the promos are your basic man-in-a-suit. and they did a great job of it. the only other cg is DDs eyes which are also shown in the previews. next wks episode is gonna be crazy!

[KalEltheBoyscout]

He really does look amazing. "Bride" is going to be phenomenal.

[chlo-el]

I know he does right? I'm very surprised and impressed they managed that.

[Vindellavon]

Doomy looks perfect!

[6-Super-Man -5]

That would be my guess. I'm surprised TPTB have the budget to pull something like this off. With Bizarro, he didn't have the cracked face all of the time but with Doomsday, whenever we see him, there are major effects shots that need to be done.

Agreed, they must of had a lot of left over money from Season Seven.

[cksidekick]

I'm actualy quite impressed!

Good job PS3!

[Iluvgreen]

They did an absloute brilliant job. It was funny watching the promo for next week, cuz I was all scared, then my sister just said, "Look what a great job they did." Even in my panic I had to agree. :lol:

[NoSupeForYou]

"Uhm, are you with the bride or the groom?"

I'm not expecting movie quality, so as long as he doesn't end up looking like a reject from Power Rangers, I'll be happy.

[Dizagaox]

The shot where Clark goes to punch Doomsday is a suit, the shot at the end when Doomsday's staring at Chloe is CGI. I think.

[shawn316]

Amazing, and considering that it finally took a relatively small budgeted show to have the balls to tackle Doomsday. Could you now imagine what a big movie studio, with a 200-300 million dollar budget could do? I say for the supposed "Superman Reboot", give the fans what they want to see...Superman vs. Doomsday!

[shawn316]

Looks like a combination of both, plus using camera angles/perspectives and tricks to make him appear larger...they used this technique in Lord of the Rings, to make the Hobbits appear smaller than the normal humans.

[Alpha Coyote]

Amazing, and considering that it finally took a relatively small budgeted show to have the balls to tackle Doomsday. Could you now imagine what a big movie studio, with a 200-300 million dollar budget could do? I say for the supposed "Superman Reboot", give the fans what they want to see...Superman vs. Doomsday!

I agree. Plus let us see Clark fly as Clark then I will be set. If the PS3 can afford to Doomsday they can deffently afford to make Clark fly as Clark.

[BULLITT]

This has the potential to be SV's best rated show, ever.

[Smallville6]

This has the potential to be SV's best rated show, ever.

If it's promoted right, I really think it could be.
But seeing as it's on the CW, I doubt it will be promoted right :\

[Legendary Lois & Clark]

Yeah but my two favorite episodes will always and forever be the ones with Christopher Reeve.



We miss you Chris.
Superman Forever.

[ZODisGOD]

they saved a lot of money from not using any lyrical songs.

[Dizagaox]

they saved a lot of money from not using any lyrical songs.
I didn't think they had to pay for any of the music, because it's classed as promotion for the singers.

[psyko69]

I didn't think they had to pay for any of the music, because it's classed as promotion for the singers.

Dude they always have too pay.

The music business is filled with the greediest people you will ever meet.

[Dizagaox]

I was under the impression the show was like One Tree Hill.

[Vindellavon]

I was under the impression the show was like One Tree Hill.


:lol:

[kaam]

I think it mostly CGI and its better that way. I think it would be alot harder for Sam (DD) to fight in a costume.

[shawn316]

This has the potential to be SV's best rated show, ever.

I could and should be, but unfortunately it's on the CW, not NBC. This whole season has been amazing, and it's just a shame that it's stuck in the so called "Phantom Zone" of television networks. Just look at the hype the show "Heroes" created, and IMHO, it's not 1/10th the show Smallville is, but it does prove that a super hero show can have mass appeal.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I didn't think they had to pay for any of the music, because it's classed as promotion for the singers.

If I was running a new, not very well known band, I wouldn't charge to have one of my songs featured on the show. Because not only is the song played, but the CW also runs a little promo at the end, and they offer a link to download the song on their website. It would be like free advertisement. :\

[ClarkyBoy14]

This has the potential to be SV's best rated show, ever.

Maybe in terms of what the fans rate it, but it isn't going to get over nine million viewers on the CW. (The PZ of network TV is a good name for it, shawn316.)

[tonnmiister]

i hope its not completely CGI, just for the scenes that we see him standing around. For fight scenes he should be played as a costume but with CGI stuff involved. I know we won't see alot of him cause he's mysteriously absent from eps after Legion.

[optinox]

K, i just watched the trailer for Bride...the film is dark, but DD looks pretty bad@ss and actually really good. Everyone keeps talking about Smallville not having the budget, it's not CGI that costs them, it's the film time, and the equipment, props, blue/screen affects that take up the budget, and also the deadline. Unlike a movie when you have a long time to prepare and generate revenue for the budget, smallville has to do this like 20 something times in a year, so it's gonna lack the polish of a big screen movie. CGI is just software, once you pay for it theres no burden on the budget. What affects Smallvilles CGI effects, is how much time they have to work on the scenes and polish them up, this can be transferring or rendering your scenes with not only CGI software, but also movie editing software as well.

CGI is always gonna look computer generated or cartoonish to the human eye, The new Hulk movie is an example of us getting there, but we've got a few ways to go before CGI looks much more realistic, as good as that movie was there times when you could easily tell the use of CGI. If I was gonna bring DD into smallville i wouldn't use CGI for his body cause it would look too fake. A costume, in special effects is much more realistic, the realism of costume and mechanical parts/material is much more real than CGI. If they did go this route, this is awesome...cause it makes it a much more believable atmosphere when CGI doesn't need to be used. Even if they use a little CGI for glowing eyes, small effects like we can get away with, but full body imagery begins to show traces of a cartoonish look. I would think they would want to stay away from making DD look cartoonish due to how big of a character he is in DC. The problem is most film makers use CGI cause its fast and and cheaper. If you had to pay to build special props, scenes, costumes, mechanical devices, it would cost a lot more. CGI is sorta the standard for special effects. But i think smallville knows that CGI is still fake looking, and to bring in DD as an actual character (costume/mechanical device) would bring realism to the show. Maybe they've been using the budget to create a DD, use less CGI throught the series, build a DD prop, climatic fight/battle they add some extra CGI effects, you got yourself one kick@ss scene!

I think Jor-El reprogrammed the crystal, or brainiac. Jor-El in the sense that he told clark that part of his journey was to take care of his cousin Kara. I believe the crystal was lost and someone sent it to him, maybe Lana, maybe even Chloe/Brainiac. So i think it was test to go save Kara, which he succeeded. I can also believe it was Brainiac, because it was a chance to release someone or something from the phantom zone, but the only way to get out is the gate way only for the house of El, since kara was there i see no point clark being transported there unless it was to save his cousin.

In abyss, when Jor-El told clark that brainiac is unpredictable and that there could be major consequences that would affect us. i think he was referring to everyone including the FOS as well. Brainiac tried to infect chloe and was rejected with her healing power, a small amount remained in chloe, this eventually like a virus spread, and eventually took over chloes mind at the cost of losing her healing ability. When Jor-El healed Chloe, the remains of brainiac were extracted out, but being a supercomputer he was able to infect the fortress again. I believe once brainiac became stronger inside chloe he knew clark would bring her to Jor-El, taking advantage of his opportunity. Brainiac needs the fortress for his plans, the crystal is useslee to him until kara or clark build there FOS, once its constructed he than infects it and can use it bring back Zod, DD, ect. Even when Jor-El showed clark what it would be like if he weren't sent to earth, brainiac said they used kara's FOS to bring back Zod and were using Lex as the vessel. I think now that its a DD fortress, this may give off the kryptonian beacon for Doom which will attract doomsday, maybe brainiac wants to infect him or try to control him.

[6-Super-Man -5]

i hope its not completely CGI, just for the scenes that we see him standing around. For fight scenes he should be played as a costume but with CGI stuff involved. I know we won't see alot of him cause he's mysteriously absent from eps after Legion.

Agreed.
I'm thinking he will return for the last four episodes of the season, and if possible make him return for one or two episodes in Season Nine.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Having examined it, i can pretty much confirm that it is a combination of CGI and costume. This is not only a good thing but IT IS CHEAPER than using full cgi, because the work required to fully animate a CGI monster that has to interact with actors is huge.

A team of animators, modellers, texturers and compositors would take weeks to complete a sigle shot and make it look good, and all that time you'd be paying Entity FX hundreds of thousands of dollars per scene.

A costume on its own will almost always look like a costume, costume eyes are always a problem because they always look fake, so combining cgi eyes with a costume monster is not only the best solution, its the method i was expecting them to use.

Plus, the costume is made once or maybe a couple of times if you ever have to use different versions to represent a hurt or damaged doomsday as well as a healthy doomsday, but those costumes can be used again and again. From an acting point of view it is SOOO much better, much better performances will come from this.

[optinox]

I think alot of us figured they'd go full CGI for DD. The fact is cgi is cheaper and faster for special effects, but it lacks realism. You take 80's horror movies and some of those costume/mechanical devices looked real compared to computer imagery. With todays design, materials, devices, making a costume of DD that looks basically real would not be hard to do. Making something like that on CGI is too hard, and i think they knew it would turn out cartoonish which is what we didn't want. Using a costume is the right way to do it, even if this was a big screen movie. Using cgi for the eyes and stuff like that looks real and i think thats what they did, 90% DD costume design, 10% cgi for his eyes, ect.

Clark seems to have more confidence now, especially when he told Jor-El he' face this challenge like any other, i just hope he doesn't get his butt kicked, lol....looks like DD is stopping clark's punch, the same way that phantom zoner did (Bautista) which makes me think DD as well as that phantom was stronger than clark. Though i've always believe clark isn't his strongest yet, i think once he does his training, and as he ages he gets stronger, clark struggled with both Zod, Faora and they would be Jor-Els age, this is why i think clark isn't fully powered yet. I still think Jor-El should of said to clark about DD "this threat should not be taken lightly Kal-El, DD fully unleashed would be a greater challenge that you are not ready for my son"

When clark finds out brainiac infected the FOS again, i think he's gonna be quite peed off, lol...hopefully when "Bride" airs the action and DD scenes will be even better!

Oh and about a superman vs DD, all i would say is Smallville did it first...and if anyone should portray supes in a movie like that, it should be T.W as supes...he may not want be just known for his role as C.K, but regardless he's the best person to portray a modern day supes.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1493/chloedoomsdayxs4.jpg

If any of you are interested in my analysis....

[ClarkyBoy14]

For anyone who's ever seen BtVS, they should know that going full CGI for a monster is never a good idea. Just think of the Mayor. *shudders*

[davidbrenton]

Yeah, maybe it's a mini-doll, like a g.i. joe or something that they film close so it looks lifesize.

This is more a joke that a serious comment.

[NoSupeForYou]

Actually, due to budget issues they can no longer afford to do a realistic looking Doomsday. Instead, they'll be recycling footage of Jar-Jar Binks.

[davidbrenton]

Yup. It's good.

[dreamsofnever]

Actually, due to budget issues they can no longer afford to do a realistic looking Doomsday. Instead, they'll be recycling footage of Jar-Jar Binks.

Now THAT would be scary! :rotfl:

[mof123]

i hope clark gets pummeled after pissing off Doomsday, that is

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I thought he'd be more grey.

[mof123]

all we have seen are two shots of a shadowed DD
how do you know that he isn't grayer than he appears to be

[Nightwish07]

Okay, I can not find any half decent pixs of the new "Doomsday" character, every one I see is sooooo dark, I don't have the resources to "enhance" the pixs, but what I have seen it really looks like "Alien - vs - Predator, where the Alien is upside-down in front of the victim, okay that's only my take of viewing not only the recent pixs, but the director's cuts etc. but everything I have seen is "Very Dark"....maybe that's what the
PS3 team want to project the Dark essence of "Doomsday" coming into his own, as is Clark, and the whole destroying the world effect. If anyone out there has a more clearer pic of our favorite Destroyer, Please post before we see "Bride" on 11/20/08, I am very interested on how they do this takeoff, I have read the posts etc. but it's still not gelling in my brain. Oh last thing....great ending on "Abyss" where we hear "Brainiac" taking over the FOS, AGAIN, and Jor-El!!!!!!!, you could hear his voice sounding very weak, as a takeover from "Brainiac"....it would be a great altercation.....Clark(Superman) - vs - Doomsday - vs - Brainiac....But will he be powerful enough to do this if any, YO Clark Get on the ball, and step up to the plate and finish that darn training......To be continued??????

[Pal-El]

I reserve the right to judge after Bride. I havent seen a clip with enough detail yet to jump on the 'Doomsday in Smallville is now good' bandwagon.

Looking forward to it though.

[Kid Collins]

I'm not expecting movie quality, so as long as he doesn't end up looking like a reject from Power Rangers, I'll be happy.

Exactly!! :lol:

I'll assume that no one will connect Doom to Davis or what else can they do with his character? He's already made that transformation and if everyone knew it was him, the only thing left is for Clark and Justice League to track and hunt him down.

Isn't Sam Witwer signed on for the full season?

[ClarkyBoy14]

Isn't Sam Witwer signed on for the full season?

He appears as late as 8.15, so I'd think so.

[optinox]

the use of cgi can be the quickest, and cheapest way, but depending on the application its being used for, it can also be very time consuming, and not really good for interaction and movment of full bodies characters. The truth is cgi just doesn't look realistic, even with a big screen budget. CGI is best used for effects, and small things, not to get off topic but i look back at all the werewolf movies back in the late 80's and 90's, with costumes, those looked real compared to cgi in american werewolf in paris, van helsing, ect. CGI is expensive when you have to port and render and combine all your work and edit it into the film, or worse design a full bodies character that has to interact with live actors, it takes too long, and for DD it would've been the wrong choice, while using little cgi for sfx, glowing eyes, i think going costume is much more realistic, and in my opinion what alot of film makers should bring back to the movie industry.

[Inked]

Looks like a costume, has the Alien feel with red CGI eyes. Costumes are cheaper when you have a full body thing. Glowy eyes are done in post production with compositing software - viola, done. The breath is more difficult to do in CG so that's also a cost-saver :)

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'd like to see a picture of the actor with his Doomsday costume on. Maybe that'll be released after "Bride" airs.

[roccanater]

Yeah it's probably CGI and a costume.

[oqllcksmallville]

Computer Generated Image.
oooh , thankss man .
i was wondering what that meant . = )
- yeah ,
i think that it's both too .
you can tell it really makes a difference when it's not though . ( y )

[BIGBLUE1]

Looking At The Spoiler You Can See That It Really Dark So Im Pretty Sure That Those Scenes Are Costume But That Scene With Chloe I Don't Know Looks Computer Animated To Me ... Is It Thursday Yet???????? :(

[j03superbat]

Looks like a costume. And a cheap one at that.

[justme_007]

costume or cgi ... it looks terrific !

[Sv.LoisLane]

I'd say both.. but man, he's so scary... I can't imagine being on set with an actor dressed in a costume like that :rotfl: poor Allison :\

[Ultimate2]

I brightened up the closeup of DD best I could with photoshop:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2157/bigdro3.png

Very glad they're going with the comic look, even if it might not be that good in brighter lighting.

[Doomsday911]

He's gonna be great

[superhippie2000]

im pretty sure its a costume. making him 100 percent cgi would be cool but they dont have enough in the budget for that. cgi is expensive. doomsday would probably eat up all the money for the season lol. im sure his powers and his eyes will be cgi but that will probably be it.

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Looks like a costume. And a cheap one at that.
ya but i kind of like the cheap look it reminds me of how creatures looked in the movies in the 80s and stuff.

[neoblackdragon]

If they film it right, a cheap suit wont matter.

[neoblackdragon]

I expected them to cop out and just do some lame protrusions from Davis face. But on their budget, this is a very good job.

[tarrow21]

yikes..I was expecting comments on how awful Doomsday looked.

Cuz to me, he looks like he was pulled out of a kiddy power rangers tv show..

Sure he looks like the comics...but it's just not realistic in the Smallville world.

[Doomsday666]

^^ I like how he looks as CGI and somewhat the costum version but if the costum version comes off as a power rangers reject, im going to be pissed. Hopefully the producers will do a great job with it. Maybe they'll do something like how Drake in blade 3 looked as the demonic form.

[superhippie2000]

ok well the episode didnt air but we did see him a bit in the trailer last week. so anyway how did he look? what did you think?


based on the trailer he looks awesome and im glad to finally have a creature on the show. sure we had phantoms but those looked just like creepy ghosts. doomsday is like a real creature looking thing. hope he looks even better on the episode.

[Karafan1]

Smallville's Doomsday looks good. The only other Doomsday I've seen was on the "Superman Doomsday" cartoon/movie. I just saw that last weekend...I never did see what the comic book Doomsday looks like..

[greatodinsbeard]

Doomsday looks awesome.Maybe we'll see Martian Manhunter go green next.

[superhippie2000]

Doomsday looks awesome.Maybe we'll see Martian Manhunter go green next.
ya i hope we see manhunter in tru form. i doubt he would cost more then the doomsday costume lol.

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Smallville's Doomsday looks good. The only other Doomsday I've seen was on the "Superman Doomsday" cartoon/movie. I just saw that last weekend...I never did see what the comic book Doomsday looks like..
ya i only know him from there too but he looks pretty close only black and a little different but not much.

[bizzaro93]

I think it looks a LITTLE fake. They should add a little CGI to fix up any parts but then again, Doomsday has only died once. He could look more gruesome the more he dies.

[superhippie2000]

I think it looks a LITTLE fake. They should add a little CGI to fix up any parts but then again, Doomsday has only died once. He could look more gruesome the more he dies.
ya im sure each time he dies he gets bigger and more powerful. im afraid of if he is this powerful now how powerful will he be if he dies agian.
i do like the obviously fake looking rubber costume tho lol. just reminds me of the old days of cheap looking stuff lol.

[Karafan1]

Well their budget is cut this year so they probably can't make Doomsday look they way that want to...If only they had Heroes' $4 million budget...

[6-Super-Man -5]

He is looking awesome, if only... :(

[KryptonStones]

Idk WHAT.THE.HELL that was...but I liked it. If that's the best they can do then they did a fantastic job. Kudos to them.

[superhippie2000]

Well their budget is cut this year so they probably can't make Doomsday look they way that want to...If only they had Heroes' $4 million budget...
ya im just glad we actually have a creature to look at. imagine the had doomsday in a superman movie. that would be awesome looking.


im wondering how he would look in the phantom zone as a phantom. well thats if he became one since phantoms are souls and doomsday doesnt have one. guess like brainiac.

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Idk WHAT.THE.HELL that was...but I liked it. If that's the best they can do then they did a fantastic job. Kudos to them.
ya i agree. great looking considering its on a CW budget. i hope we get a doomsday feature on the season 8 dvd just to see how he was made. still like the old look of the costume tho. i dont know but the part with him and chloe reminds me of the jabawakie in alice in wonderland.

[Liquid-Prince]

I hope it doesn't look like a fake costume. I'd rather it be slightly cheesy looking but CG rather then it looking like a costume. It looks sweet in the trailer when it picks up Chloe, but not when it blocks Clark's punch.

[superhippie2000]

I hope it doesn't look like a fake costume. I'd rather it be slightly cheesy looking but CG rather then it looking like a costume. It looks sweet in the trailer when it picks up Chloe, but not when it blocks Clark's punch.
ya the punch at clark looked odd but maybe we have to see the scene as a whole.
as long as we dont see a zipper im fine lol.

[Liquid-Prince]

ya the punch at clark looked odd but maybe we have to see the scene as a whole.
as long as we dont see a zipper im fine lol.

As long as the bones aren't rubber and they bend :lol:

[superhippie2000]

As long as the bones aren't rubber and they bend :lol:
that would be funny :lol:

[malcrew]

DoomsDay looks good.

[Tabularasa]

Wow. He looks like Megatron. I'm kind of expecting him to yell out PRIME when he sees Clark, lol.

[luthorian]

OMG can't wait to see Doomsday!!!

[Blue Orange NY]

maybe I'm just being tooooo picky, but

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maybe I'm just being too picky, but I would've liked him to be a little more taller....I hope he has that long white hair besides that it looks good

[superhippie2000]

maybe I'm just being tooooo picky, but

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maybe I'm just being too picky, but I would've liked him to be a little more taller....I hope he has that long white hair besides that it looks good
ya i did kind of think he was short in that one part of the clip.
about the hair not sure. i think hell just be black but maybe not could of been the darkness of the scene. guess we have to wait and see. only 23 hours left.

[Blue Orange NY]

as long as he isn't Chloe's height lol.....the clip was too un-identifiable


ya i did kind of think he was short in that one part of the clip.
about the hair not sure. i think hell just be black but maybe not could of been the darkness of the scene. guess we have to wait and see. only 23 hours left.

[BULLITT]

The red eyes, are a carry-over from last year's animated movie.
I guess it would have been too expensive to digitize real eyes, and a man
behind a mask would have been too pathetic, given this character's lighting requirements.

[xrayvision]

I never did see what the comic book Doomsday looks like..

You gotta check out some issues with him Karafan. Nothing beats the real Doomsday and how menacing he is. Every other version has been watered down to some degree. I remember how shocked I was when I saw him in the comics back in 1992.

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The red eyes, are a carry-over from last year's animated movie.
I guess it would have been too expensive to digitize real eyes, and a man
behind a mask would have been too pathetic, given this character's lighting requirements.

I'm surprised they won't have him wear that gray suit the real Doomsday wore when he first showed up to save money on effects. Maybe he will don the suit sometime later in the season.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-man-of-steel/18-1.jpg

[BULLITT]

You gotta check out some issues with him Karafan. Nothing beats the real Doomsday and how menacing he is. Every other version has been watered down to some degree. I remember how shocked I was when I saw him in the comics back in 1992.

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I'm surprised they won't have him wear that suit the real Doomsday wore when he first showed up to save money on effects. Maybe he will don the suit sometime later in the season.

Remember the outstretched hand...opened...little birdy landing......?

That would be over the top, if they duplicate that in Smallville.
Kids crying all over the world.:lol:

[xrayvision]

Remember the outstretched hand...opened...little birdy landing......?

That would be over the top, if they duplicate that in Smallville.
Kids crying all over the world.:lol:

Oh man, how could I forget that. A cute little birdy landing in his hand and then being totally ripped to shreds.

[tibbit78]

I'm not sure if anyone noticed last week in Abyss when Brainiac was talking about Doomsday (he didn't say this outloud, but the closed-captioned said it on the television set that):


"Doomsday is coming. Kal-El will die...alone."

Brainiac was talking about Doomsday and Clark Kent. Did anyone notice this on the closed-caption television set last week? I'm telling the truth about this!

[xrayvision]

I don't have closed captioning on my TV.

[christian_kryptonian]

Looks great. I am very excited to see Doomsday fully realized on Smallville!

[NaYa]

This episode is going to be awesome...Doomsday is here!!

[Bane]

I thought Doomsday looked very real...and I was also under the impression he was CGI...not a man in a suit...I could be wrong, so if anyone knows what the deal is, do tell.

[FlashInSV]

I'm surprised they won't have him wear that gray suit the real Doomsday wore when he first showed up to save money on effects. Maybe he will don the suit sometime later in the season.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-man-of-steel/18-1.jpg


Well, since you are a fellow comics fan, you must know he doesn't normally wear anything..it's all grey skin and bones sticking out...


I liked that glimpse of Doomsday I caught at the trailer..And he doesn't need to be taller, he gets taller and bigger and stronger everytime he dies. He's died once so far, so he's just perfect. As for the CGI effects, well, they are on a budget and they've done a wonderful job with what they have. ;)

[STFanatic]

ya im just glad we actually have a creature to look at. imagine the had doomsday in a superman movie. that would be awesome looking.


im wondering how he would look in the phantom zone as a phantom. well thats if he became one since phantoms are souls and doomsday doesnt have one. guess like brainiac.

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ya i agree. great looking considering its on a CW budget. i hope we get a doomsday feature on the season 8 dvd just to see how he was made. still like the old look of the costume tho. i dont know but the part with him and chloe reminds me of the jabawakie in alice in wonderland.


It could be bad, for instance The Thing in the first live action Fantastic Four movie from 1994 that was never released

The Thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPcpD07LzGU)

That was really bad :lol:

[RedKalEL]

i jsut glad it's not sam wither half naked and jacked up with fangs. i'm glad there actually using the character's actual look

[optinox]

Here's what Doomsday looks like, these are variations of the character but close similarities, except the 1st one (This was DD in the animated movie, and personally don't like that design). Smallvilles version is pretty much right on the money, and it looks good with the costume, since cosumes look real, you get fluid, realistic motion, then use cgi for his superspeed, his eyes, ect, small stuff like that would just polish it off right. A full cgi look would look cartoonish, even if the budget was larger...Incredible Hulk people, come on, as good as that looked, it looks more cartoonish then believable. Predator vs Alien, excellent reaslistic look using costumes/mechanical props, like in the good old days, i think i'd be crapping my pants if one of those characters came at me, because cgi you can't realistically touch, at least with costumes/props, the atmosphere and feeling would fit into reality abit more. Anyways here's what he looks like, and to set the record, the darker, violent feel is what Smallville should be going for. DD is a monster that only kills, he's killed the most feared/strongest species on Krypton, there's no messing around when it comes to DD, the feeling should be dark, like your watching a horror flick, DD is the real deal when it comes to iconic villains in the DC universe. Here's the pics.....

[Bizarrolover]

One thing is for sure, he has very bad breath.

[hellnback]

the wb is really doing all they can to make money off of doomsday. they're re-releasing the superman vs. doomsday cartoon movie next tuesday. how conveniant...since there'll probably be folks out there who will just watch this episode for doomsday only and those that know nothing of doomsday will want to go see that movie. i wouldn't be surprised that they promote the cartoon during the show. so basically this is a young doomsday who still isn't huge and able to kill of clark. also this show will put doomsday out there for more folks to know about. who knows maybe now they can make a feature film with a doomsday vs. superman story and they don't have to go into too much background info.

[Blue Orange NY]

again as long he isn't Chloe's height lol


he needs to be taller then Clark

[Liquid-Prince]

Here's what Doomsday looks like, these are variations of the character but close similarities, except the 1st one (This was DD in the animated movie, and personally don't like that design). Smallvilles version is pretty much right on the money, and it looks good with the costume, since cosumes look real, you get fluid, realistic motion, then use cgi for his superspeed, his eyes, ect, small stuff like that would just polish it off right. A full cgi look would look cartoonish, even if the budget was larger...Incredible Hulk people, come on, as good as that looked, it looks more cartoonish then believable. Predator vs Alien, excellent reaslistic look using costumes/mechanical props, like in the good old days, i think i'd be crapping my pants if one of those characters came at me, because cgi you can't realistically touch, at least with costumes/props, the atmosphere and feeling would fit into reality abit more. Anyways here's what he looks like, and to set the record, the darker, violent feel is what Smallville should be going for. DD is a monster that only kills, he's killed the most feared/strongest species on Krypton, there's no messing around when it comes to DD, the feeling should be dark, like your watching a horror flick, DD is the real deal when it comes to iconic villains in the DC universe. Here's the pics.....

That's not true. You could perfectly well make an CGI creature that looks completely real. Hulk was MEANT to look a bit CGI. I really hate the creatures from alien because they actually look like costumes, and that sucks. Doomsday should be a CG 10 foot tall creature in an ideal world.

[Tatiana]

I'm not sure if anyone noticed last week in Abyss when Brainiac was talking about Doomsday (he didn't say this outloud, but the closed-captioned said it on the television set that):


"Doomsday is coming. Kal-El will die...alone."

Brainiac was talking about Doomsday and Clark Kent. Did anyone notice this on the closed-caption television set last week? I'm telling the truth about this!


I believe you, I actually heard it cuz I have a bose system and you can hear every little thing they say

[Jaderoyale]

I can honestly say, i am extremley happy with the glimpse of him that we got.
I'll be watching him from behind my pillow.

[Doomsday666]

the wb is really doing all they can to make money off of doomsday. they're re-releasing the superman vs. doomsday cartoon movie next tuesday. how conveniant...since there'll probably be folks out there who will just watch this episode for doomsday only and those that know nothing of doomsday will want to go see that movie. i wouldn't be surprised that they promote the cartoon during the show. so basically this is a young doomsday who still isn't huge and able to kill of clark. also this show will put doomsday out there for more folks to know about. who knows maybe now they can make a feature film with a doomsday vs. superman story and they don't have to go into too much background info.
Pretty Much

[Doomsday666]

I can honestly say, i am extremley happy with the glimpse of him that we got.
I'll be watching him from behind my pillow.
:lol:

[Tatiana]

I think that the picture where he holds Chloe's face is spot on.The other one where he is in front of Jimmy looks like he is wearing a costume.We will have to wait and see.But the first picture is 100% Doomsday.Nice work PS3!To be honest i didn't expect them to do this.I was expecting Sam Witwer deformed with tons of make up.It is the first time we get a real monster on Smallville.This show has really changed from the first season.Anyway,seeing this effects,it somehow explains why the next episodes don't have many cast members.The budget must have really taken a hit in order to bring Doomsaday to life.That's why we might see him for a few shots at Bride.Maybe they are saving some effects for later.


Ya they have done a great job this season overall I think considering budget cuts, I am sure they might get more cuts considering the financial situation.

[Doomsday666]

Ya they have done a great job this season overall I think considering budget cuts, I am sure they might get more cuts considering the financial situation.
Maybe the Money thats going to Hero's should just have gone to Smallville, Cause we can see how much its helping them:rolleyes:

[Tatiana]

Maybe the Money thats going to Hero's should just have gone to Smallville, Cause we can see how much its helping them:rolleyes:


maybe the money they spend on that stupid show Gossip girl, should go to smallville, they should get rid of gossip and 90210

[Doomsday666]

maybe the money they spend on that stupid show Gossip girl, should go to smallville, they should get rid of gossip and 90210
True what the hell does those two show need that much money for?

[BIGBLUE1]

I Like The Costume And Honestly Most Of The Scene We Saw Of Him Is Really Dark.. Lol .. So I Guess It Masks The Rubber Suit..

But I Will Guarantee You All This The Scenes We Saw Of Doomsday In The Trailers Are The Only Scene We Will Get To See Him In So Watch And Watch Hard..trust Me That's Not What I Want But I Do Have A Feelings That Whats Going To Happen

[optinox]

That's not true. You could perfectly well make an CGI creature that looks completely real. Hulk was MEANT to look a bit CGI. I really hate the creatures from alien because they actually look like costumes, and that sucks. Doomsday should be a CG 10 foot tall creature in an ideal world.

Dude the first Hulk movie was MEANT to look cartoonish, the 2nd one with Edward Norton, they intened to make the Hulk realistic. Whats the point of making a superhero movie if your characters look cartoonish, the whole point of bringing comics to big screen is to make a life like version of it. I'll admit cgi technology has come along way, so you can't compare one movie to another when each year we make progress with computer graphics/cgi. I don't doubt that you can make something look good, like a flying dragon, or something similar, but fluid motion, interaction with character, is alot harder to do with cgi...cgi will always have its flaws, and in most cases where you can say "wow that looks pretty real" the fact is you'll always be able to tell its not. Its not like DD in Smallville will be coming out with a fake looking mask or costume that you'd buy for halloween, i'd expect it to look fairly decent and realistic.

Theres not one movie that has used cgi to the point in looks real. I'm not talking about special fx like fire, breath, glowing eyes, or sold objects. I'm talking about a lifelike character, with fluid motion and a look so real its like watching the real thing. computer graphics aren't quite there yet to make it realistic, for some stuff cgi is great and almost hard to detect but for something where the characterr has to grab an actual actor or theres some kind of exchange, cgi just isn't real looking enough. When you watch movies you know either its a costume or cgi, the point is, if you wanted to go for something that looks real then costume is the way to go. Costume design can look just as good as anything that you could come up with using cgi, the only difference is you get realistic motion and contact with the other actors, a much more better viewing experiece, which brings the character more in touch to reality. Had the did a full cgi DD, it would still have cartoonish traces, i've used 3d max, lightwave, xsi, i've also used adobe after effects, and a few others, i can tell you first hand that you if you take 2 identicle scenes, one character in a costume, one in cgi, you'd notice the difference, and pick the costume design based on the realism the character feels compared to the cgi character.

And DD is taller than Chloe, did anyone see the trailer when it looks liek Jimmy is just staring at him, DD is like 2 feet taller, also the scene where clark punches DD and he catches clarks punch...well it look slike DD has about 1ft maybe more on clark. DD in the comics is suppose to be around 7-8ft tall, his height in the clips were pretty much right on.

[BULLITT]

again as long he isn't Chloe's height lol


he needs to be taller then Clark

Since they've previously had two pro wrestlers on, I'm surprised they didn't ask
'The Great Khali' - Dalip Singh Rana - 7' 2", 420lbs, to help out.

[Liquid-Prince]

Dude the first Hulk movie was MEANT to look cartoonish, the 2nd one with Edward Norton, they intened to make the Hulk realistic. Whats the point of making a superhero movie if your characters look cartoonish, the whole point of bringing comics to big screen is to make a life like version of it. I'll admit cgi technology has come along way, so you can't compare one movie to another when each year we make progress with computer graphics/cgi. I don't doubt that you can make something look good, like a flying dragon, or something similar, but fluid motion, interaction with character, is alot harder to do with cgi...cgi will always have its flaws, and in most cases where you can say "wow that looks pretty real" the fact is you'll always be able to tell its not. Its not like DD in Smallville will be coming out with a fake looking mask or costume that you'd buy for halloween, i'd expect it to look fairly decent and realistic.

Theres not one movie that has used cgi to the point in looks real. I'm not talking about special fx like fire, breath, glowing eyes, or sold objects. I'm talking about a lifelike character, with fluid motion and a look so real its like watching the real thing. computer graphics aren't quite there yet to make it realistic, for some stuff cgi is great and almost hard to detect but for something where the characterr has to grab an actual actor or theres some kind of exchange, cgi just isn't real looking enough. When you watch movies you know either its a costume or cgi, the point is, if you wanted to go for something that looks real then costume is the way to go. Costume design can look just as good as anything that you could come up with using cgi, the only difference is you get realistic motion and contact with the other actors, a much more better viewing experiece, which brings the character more in touch to reality. Had the did a full cgi DD, it would still have cartoonish traces, i've used 3d max, lightwave, xsi, i've also used adobe after effects, and a few others, i can tell you first hand that you if you take 2 identicle scenes, one character in a costume, one in cgi, you'd notice the difference, and pick the costume design based on the realism the character feels compared to the cgi character.

And DD is taller than Chloe, did anyone see the trailer when it looks liek Jimmy is just staring at him, DD is like 2 feet taller, also the scene where clark punches DD and he catches clarks punch...well it look slike DD has about 1ft maybe more on clark. DD in the comics is suppose to be around 7-8ft tall, his height in the clips were pretty much right on.

Your joking right :lol:

Do you know how many movies use CG and you don't even realize it? Give me any recent movie that was action but didn't look like it had CG and I'll tell you where it was CG. More obvious ones include the transformers which are completely photo-realistic and a ton more. CG has at this moment advanced so far that they can make a completely CG character look real and behave and move real through motion capture, and whole bunch of other techniques. It just depends on how much money you have.

And by the way, even the new Hulk was intended to still look like a cartoon. It's just they didn't like the full pastel way Ang Lee's Hulk looked.

[BIGBLUE1]

Well Ill Get Back On Topic... And Put It This Way As Long As Dd Looks Like How He's Supposed To And Not Davis Painted Grey With Spikes Coming Off His Face Im Freakin Happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alexander III]

He looks like transformer

[justincredible]

from what i've seen of the bride episode doomsday looks awecome.they really went for it:) and cant wait to see the results:D

[thehenry89]

He looks kinda bumpy in the DC.

[Krypton935]

I think that he looked pretty awesome from the preview. I'm hoping its not just a laugh fest tonight but i doubt it will be smallville's always been pretty awesome with costumes. I 'm sure that even if it doesn't look the best it will still be pretty cool.

[WildCard]

well from the trailer i saw last week i have to say he looks alot better than i thought he would. i just hope we get a good fight between him and clark. thats always been my one real complaint with the show. i know they dont have a summer block buster movie budget to work with but still. i always get hyped when i know clark is facing another super powerd bad guy but it always turns out to be some lame pushing and if were lucky a couple punches. i want to see a long drawn out desperate fight.Im sick of sissy clark. Fella needs to learn how to throw some bones. Strap some K to his forehead staple him into a lazy boy and force him to watch some UFC lol .

[ClarkyBoy14]

True what the hell does those two show need that much money for?

Birth control.

[Doomsday666]

Birth control.
LOL

Thats true all they do on those shows is have SEX with each other

[BrandonR]

Birth control.

:lol::rotfl::lol:

[connorkent]

You know what, I have the greatest respect for the special effects guys on this how, but when we saw doomsday walk, to me it looked one step up from a power rangers villain, it just looked like a guy in a suit. Sorry if this is me being negative but hey its just one persons opinion.

[Kalista]

I agree with you. It looked really cheesy to me and it wasn't frightening at all. It's a shame they don't have much money for special effects.

[Tabularasa]

Totally agree. Personally, I don't know why they bothered with him if they knew they didn't have the money for it.

[costas22]

They did try to limit his screen time as well as the way he was shot.We never got a complete shot of him.My guess is that we won't see him in Legion.They will try to save their budget for an appearance in the finale.You can't fault them for trying though.I think it's the first time someone other than the comics and the animated series has tried to portray Doomsday.

[LightningFlash]

Didn't disappoint.

I said I'll be laughing during his scenes and I certainly did :)

At least Supernatural was amazing.

[tonnmiister]

he looks amazing himself, but i agree with the fact that when he walks, he looks like a retard, perhaps they should have just have had him super-speeding around instead of walking?
BTW Tabularasa, i think you would be pissed if they just made Doomsday Davis covered in blood, they are VERY courageous to try this, and from what ive seen on boards, everyone respects them and how DD looks, apart from you three and me, although i only hate the way he walks

[Razzle]

He looks good, except they should have showed his face and only parts of his body like leeping around i thought it was prettty cheesy walking around the fortress.

[Alpha Coyote]

Doomsday sure did knock Clark on his ass.

[hiler1988]

I thought he looked pretty crazy...especially in that final scene with Chloe!

[Alpha Coyote]

that was very cool.

[wolverine316]

Doomsday looked chessy with the red eyes and when it talked. But I wasn't expecting anything great with Smallville's budget.

[superhippie2000]

doomsday looked awesome. really cool. just wish we got more of a full body shot of him. im sure we will eventually but he was really cool.

[Stephen Robinson]

The reason the Hulk looked fake is that he's basically a human being -- just green and really big. Thus, the CGI effects come across as more obvious (and thus cartoony). For Doomsday or a Transformer or something that doesn't look "human," you have more latitude.

[biggkoz]

He looked ok almost more robotic than creature.

[Doomsday666]

I honestly have no problem on how he looks. Yeah the CGI looks better then the costum but you gotta give hand to the SV crew for making him look very close to the DD in the Comic. And on their Budget compared to other shows like 90210, Gossip Girl or even Hero's. Just think about this, at least he doesnt look how lost did the black smoke/fog (Truelly terrible CGI work) or any of the SCI-FI Channel Monsters (Terrible costums/CGI work)

[PJBoy]

He looked great!

[Alpha Coyote]

I thought they did a wonderful job on creating Doomsday. I think we will see what more of what he looks likein furture episodes. Last nights epp was a sneak peek at what he is going to become.

[Doomsday666]

Jesues christ people! Nothing keeps you people happy.

He looks better then anything on the SCI-FI Channel. Or even on the show Lost with its fake ass black fog/smoke. I dont know what you people are talken about being one step higher than Power Rangers, This custom was about 20 steps a head (I used to watch the old school power Rangers so I would know) falling short to Demonic Drake in Blade Trinity.

[AshyLarry]

I don't know what you guys were hoping to expect...it's a TV show with a tight budget, I say that Doomsday looked way better than I could have hoped.

[Crusade]

Jesues christ people! Nothing keeps you people happy.

He looks better then anything on the SCI-FI Channel. Or even on the show Lost with its fake ass black fog/smoke. I dont know what you people are talken about being one step higher than Power Rangers, This custom was about 20 steps a head (I used to watch the old school power Rangers so I would know) falling short to Demonic Drake in Blade Trinity.


really what is wronng with the people on this board , we finally see a live action Doomsday and you guy's are pissing and moaning come on i think he looked awsome.
what would it take to keep you A$$&*$@! Happy

[razta]

ok boys and girls.. i was really expecting to see more of the Davis to Doomsday transformation.. honestly just showing his hand and Eyes glowing red didn't really give it the buzz that was expected, with the big build up.

what do you think?

[Doomsday666]

really what is wronng with the people on this board , we finally see a live action Doomsday and you guy's are pissing and moaning come on i think he looked awsome.
what would it take to keep you A$$&*$@! Happy
True that

For a TV show he looks awsome:D

[Doomsday666]

Need more....But what we got was fine by me

[PJBoy]

really what is wronng with the people on this board , we finally see a live action Doomsday and you guy's are pissing and moaning come on i think he looked awsome.
what would it take to keep you A$$&*$@! Happy


Jesues christ people! Nothing keeps you people happy.

He looks better then anything on the SCI-FI Channel. Or even on the show Lost with its fake ass black fog/smoke. I dont know what you people are talken about being one step higher than Power Rangers, This custom was about 20 steps a head (I used to watch the old school power Rangers so I would know) falling short to Demonic Drake in Blade Trinity.
I totally agree.

Doomsday looked beyond than great in "Bride". And there are lots of shows that would die to have a monster like that. He look like the comics one.

[davidbrenton]

Doomsday appearance was awesome. I think the reason people are complaining is because it was all shown in the previews and spoilers.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[razta]

i was expecting something like The Incredible Hulk type transformation.. "don't get me angry!":lol:

[yomama]

The classic horror movie trope is to never reveal all of the monster all at once (or in some cases ever). The monster is only revealed in quick glances, low lighting, or out of the corner of your eye. It's theoretically scarier because the audience's imagination provides the missing and truly scary details.

I thought they did a pretty good job for the first reveals. I suspect we'll see more of Doomsday's form in future episodes, but I'm a bit afraid if they abandon the "moody" lighting, Doomsday's going to look like Davis in a cheap rubber suit. So not cool.

[lm1212]

Less is better, especially when the budgets' tight. Anymore of the Halloween costume off of Ebay would have driven me completely insane. The transformation effects were good, but the suit was killing me.

[kyl-el]

What I saw was good enough, at least for the first time. It left enough to the imagination, which was nice, but I'm guessing that we'll see it again and in more detail.

[mof123]

everyone, stop whining!!!!!!!!!!

Doomsday looked awesome and he was on an unbelievably tight budget!!!
there is just no pleasing you guys, is there??
i think he could have been made a bit taller and a bit more hulked up but he still looked fantastic!!!
This is the first time Doomsday is shown in live action and you should be happy with these amazing results!!!!!!!!

[razta]

What I saw was good enough, at least for the first time. It left enough to the imagination, which was nice, but I'm guessing that we'll see it again and in more detail.
ok.. so we expect to see more sometime in the future?

[Super Maverick]

I like that they only showed a little bit.....leave them wanting more......

[fa8362]

I agree. Doomsday was a bad joke...a guy in a cheesy looking suit. Reminded me of Godzilla or Ultraman. LOL

[fa8362]

Transformation wouldn't help when Doomsday looked like Godzilla from a 60's movie.

[Doomsday666]

Transformation wouldn't help when Doomsday looked like Godzilla from a 60's movie.
MOD EDIT He didnt even look like Godzilla.

[kyl-el]

ok.. so we expect to see more sometime in the future?

Obviously I can't answer that question factually. I'm just speculating...same as you.

[fa8362]

MOD EDIT He didnt even look like Godzilla.

You're right...Doomsday looked worse than Godzilla from a 60's movie.

[LuckyLois]

Well they just cut their budget again so Blair and Serena from Gossip Girl can buy another Prada handbag, heaven only knows what they spend on 90210. I HATE THE CW!!!!! Their ratings aren't even as good as SV.

[mof123]

^^^well what can you do

[Ellsbury]

He looked like Darth Maul from Star Wars...

[Doomsday666]

You're right...Doomsday looked worse than Godzilla from a 60's movie.
MOD EDIT he was as good as any costum used in the 2000's. He looks ten times better the Godzilla.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, would have been cool if we saw more, but whatever.
Maybe in the future episodes (Season Finale) we could see a full transformation.

[luthorian]

Yeah it would be nice to see more. I was just wondering doesn't Davis feel any pain at all? His reaction to those things coming through his skin was like "blaah, not again". Then again he didn't seem too bothered by the knife in his chest either :lol:

[hopeless]

I was more annoyed with how they explained he got away with Chloe that kryptonite was used up there shouldn't have been any up there absolutely NONE got it!

Sorry I thought it was a weak excuse to cover up the fact they couldn't afford the effects for the fight that SHOULD have happened, sorry it was weak, the Doomsday creature was fine, they just went for something inexcusable.

PS: Bizarro drained all of the kryptonite up there about a season ago and there haven't been any sequences where he conveniently replaces something that deadly to him...
Just so weak...

[Animation]

Doomsday looked pretty good to me!

Lewis

[luthorian]

:\ I liked him, don't really care what he looks like as long as he's there :o

[LordOnox]

At times looked amaizing, but when they zoomed into his face a few times he looked......wierd...

[SnowBird]

Doesn't Doomsday get bigger as time goes by? This is the infant DD since Davis is just turning into the monster. I think they did a great job. With their budget we were lucky to get DD at all. Much to much whinning in the forum as a whole. If I was someone new to Smallville and read the comments, I would run the other way.

[Smallville6]

He looked better than I expected him too!
Honestly, I just think nothing will make you people happy anymore!

[6-Super-Man -5]

Really, he looks great, I hope Clark and him have an epic showdown.

[CKLL22]

You know what, I have the greatest respect for the special effects guys on this how, but when we saw doomsday walk, to me it looked one step up from a power rangers villain, it just looked like a guy in a suit. Sorry if this is me being negative but hey its just one persons opinion.

WOW are you kidding me???

It's stupid people like you who don't appreciate a good thing when you see one. Doomsday looks amazing for a tv show and how can you say the way he walks looks fake? they didnt even show a full body shot of him walking around. He looked great in the few scenes they showed.

[spotteddog]

CKLL22, let's chill on the "stupid" comments, OK? Connorkent has a right to his opinion.

Personally I was amazed when SV announced Doomsday, and think they did a very good job with him. I very much like the different spin (Davis, creation of Zod) that SV has taken. As far as I am concerned, SV has taken another step up with "Bride", but given how good this season has been so far, maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

[wooosmallville]

This was just infant doomsday! He can't be super huge. That's how he looks when he fights superman and kills him later on. There are still plenty of ways to kill him. Everyone's so nitpicky! I thought he was awesome for a TV budget.

[optinox]

Well you only have 2 choices for sfx, you either use costume/mechanical props, or you go full cgi. I've used many cgi programs, and i can tell you first hand that cgi would've looked worse. People should stop complaining about how DD looked, no matter how you look at it, no character in a movie is gonna seem scary, if they used cgi people would be saying he looked like a cartoon, they went with costume and people say it looks cheesey....come on people what more do you want. The problem is many don't understand how cgi works, it's very difficult to make a character that has to interact with other actors, as well move fluidly, had they used cgi, it would've looked as good as the new Incredible Hulk movie...too me that would look cheesey. Its how you see the character, you can't picture a guy in a suit if its cgi, just like a guy in the suit you can picture it being a computer generated image. Smallville incorporated both which was good....pretty much cgi is good for special effects like wind, fire, objects, its not like a cgi dragon flying in the sky, what most are overlooking is cgi used with "character animation and interaction with other actors"

And really what did anyone expect DD to look like, what the artist draws in the comics, if thats the case clark would be wearing muscle suit to show his bulging muscles...that would've looked cheesey. DD is only about 1ft taller than clark in the comics anyways, in smallville DD was thicker/wider than clark, and when clark threw his punch, it looked like clark was gonna hit DD in the chest...that would be about the exact height they should be. Personally had they made DD with huge muscles that would've looked like a cheap power ranger costume...has anyone ever see the movies Wishmaster, well it has a genie, they use costume, but reminded me of what smallville used for DD. If the decision was based on realism, then the choice they went with was the right. Full body cgi would look good for what its worth, but when edited into the movie with interaction with the characters, thats when all its flaws would show, as well you'd always notice that hint of a cartoonish look, so cgi would've been 2nd choice in my book.

CGI just doesn't appear to be realistic, and i guess neither does costume, but at least with costume it would make it feel real that the character seems to come to life, rather than watching a computer image. This was the intro to DD, none of us should've expected a big fight or conflict with clark and him just yet, the wedding was the focal point, DD being introduced was the cliffhanger, now we wait till Jan to find out what happens.. If the spend the $$$ on top quality craftsmanship/material for the DD suit, and work on tweaking what they showed us for DD, then it could look better later on.

[Forever_Chlark]

I thought he looked great

[6-Super-Man -5]

He did, I hope we get to see him more, maybe in the sun.

[yaseen101]

He looked better than I expected him too!
Honestly, I just think nothing will make you people happy anymore!

What is it they say about people who bicker and wine? Oh yeah, "They sound like old married couples who haven't 'done it' after marriage"

[Genny]

I thought Doomsday looked awesome. Very close to the comics, which really surprised me, especially considering how tight the budget is. I think he was great. Big deal, he didn't walk the way you wanted him to, so what! At least we got Doomsday and he looked great. I was very impressed, and even more so when I thought about the fact that the budget is way less than it usually is. I really don't see what you're talking about, "a step up from a power ranger villian", try light years ahead of a power ranger villian. I was impressed with what they did.

[newbaggy]

One of the problems that I had when it was announced that Doomsday would be in Smallville was the way he was generally drawn in the comic books and the cartoons. A live-action version of that creature would basically resemble Hulk Hogan covered in grey body paint with a few patches of prosthetic bone spurs - cheesy, unconvincing and not at all scary. What we got in "Bride" may only be a "man in a suit" monster, but (a) tptb have gone for a concept that is actually more alien and threatening in look than the comics, and (b) the director did the sensible thing and kept Doomsday largely in the shadows - particularly in the barn - so we don't get to see him properly. Both approaches made Doomsday look better to me than a straight attempt to copy the comic books.

It is worth bearing in mind that this is Smallville's first real attempt at such a monster, and even the best shows don't get them right first time. When "Doctor Who" was revived in 2005, the first new prosthetic/animatronic monster to be filmed were the Slitheen. Despite having a highly experienced prosthetic designer (Neil Gorton), it proved difficult to make the creatures look effective onscreen in their first story. However, when a second Slitheen story was shot later in the year, the production team took advantage of lessons that had been learned, and changed the way that the creatures were filmed so that they looked more convincing. I'm sure that the Smallville team will have learned a lot about the Doomsday costume/prosthetics from filming "Bride", and changes may well be made before we see it again.

[christian_kryptonian]

I was more than pleased with what I saw. I thought he was going to be a lot more cheesy than what the result they showed us was. I loved it.

[cardsharp]

i thought he looked great... i mean you know.. all the parts of him i got to see looked great.

i feel totally raped. the whole DD appearance was in the trailer.
MOAR!!!!

[jesustlife]

Doomsday looked great and it wasn't CGI....I think. Looked more like a very well done costume. CGI sucks, it destroyed Star Wars and George Lucas's pride and legacy, so guys keep it to a minimum. Thanks.;)

[costas22]

It was a tight rope that they walked on but i have to say that Doomsday's first ever live action portrayal was a success and for two specific reasons:the lighting and the camera angles.We never got a full body shot of him because most likely he would resemble a Power Rangers monster.On the other hand i am not a big fan of doing everything in CGI and the actors must hate it too because a lot of times they don't know what to work with.So PS3 chose the best possible route:less lighting,specific cameara angles,a costume that didn't seem silly and CGI when it mattered(at the close up of his staredown with Chloe).To recap,they did what they could with the budget they were given.

[optinox]

I just want to point out, when davis was transforming on his hand, the use of cgi being used, in my opinion was just as good or at least very close to the transformation I seen in the new Incredible Hulk movie. I make this comparison cause the 1st Hulk movie looked more cartoonish, meaning my impressoin of smallvilles cgi was comparable to a big screen movie that had a way larger budget. I thought it looked great, and the suit was perfect....he actually looked like an alien or some other specie, with bones, he was definately thicker/wider than clark, and about 1ft taller. Remember they're not going for a comic book look, if that was the case clark would be wearing a muscle suit and DD would have huge muscles, the comic book drawings are drastic, in real life DD looked to me what he would be in reality. DD isn't big like say the Hulk, plus if he's still evolving maybe he'll get abit taller and thicker by the time he meets superman later on. its more realistic to have a guy in the suit then to watch clark fighta computer image, did anyone like the fight with Titan, or should they have put him full cgi...probably would've looked like I was playing smackdown on the 360 using Kane...so a full suit is way more realistic, the fight scenes would be much more realistic, way too hard if you went full cgi.

[RPintorO]

everyone, stop whining!!!!!!!!!!

Doomsday looked awesome and he was on an unbelievably tight budget!!!
there is just no pleasing you guys, is there??
i think he could have been made a bit taller and a bit more hulked up but he still looked fantastic!!!
This is the first time Doomsday is shown in live action and you should be happy with these amazing results!!!!!!!!

Doomsday looked awesome. Now this a character worthy of Clark's power. This Doomsday makes Zod, Aldar, Titan and Bizzaro look like little school girls. Smallville's producers/writers are doing an excellent job.

[kah bell]

Honestly, I was satisfied. It is realy something that they even attempted to show Doomsday, and like some others have said, it's a first for a non-animated or comic book.

Would like to see somebody else do better in a series.

But honestly, this is the problem and the reason we don't have more comic-based series. To please the fan base with enemies that look like the fan base wants is just too freaking expensive.

So be satisifed, that they're even trying this. Especially when this might be the end of the series this year . . . . .

[krewsaider]

At first I felt disappointed that I didn't get to see more. Later, I realized this was just a taste for more to come. When we have this season complete, we'll remember this episode as a nice little tease for the awesomeness that comes later. So in summary, I'm very happy with how they handled it.

[unfocused]

I thought Doomsday looked cheesy in some scenes. Just too fake. The bony structures should look less like plastic, and more like worn out wood.

But I was satisfied with the way he looked. I still think he looked great, especially for the budget. I cannot ask for a better looking live-action Doomsday. Despite the few flaws I noticed, I really love this man in a suit. I take him with any and all flaws.

[Karafan1]

If Smallville had Heroes' $4 million budget Doomsday would look much, much better..

[optinox]

Smallville did a great job for bringing in one of the most iconic villains to tv. I mean this is something you'd expect as big screen movie. So its great that smallville can say they did it first, and with the budget they had, i have to say the costume and cgi was awesome. But its like anything, now that they've done it, they can go back and tweak on on some things. It sucks cause the fans can usually notice the improvements but its a learning curve and nothings perfect. Its like the ninja turtle movies, the suits looked better and changed over the sequels, Hulk and and Incredible Hulk there was improvements in the cgi, so these are examples showing that I would not be surprised that they tweak things or try to make them look better, and might be noticeable change.

Had they got $4million budget like Heroes, i still think they would've done the same thing, maybe more scenes of davis transforming, but they only have so much allotted time for an episode, as well only so much time to edit and polish everything before it airs. Were not giving them much credit based on budget, its time that they need to make something look spectacular. As far as Heroes goes, i've seen better sfx on smallville than that show.

[Smalvil1]

doomsday looked as good as he could and i was pleased. If this were a movie though and they came up with this, i would be very dissapointed. But in the smallville context, i think he looked pretty cool (this is coming from someone who's read the death of superman many times).

[JordanElliot]

I always thought Doomsday looked like a tool in the comics. Seriously! Look at him! But I think the destructor of the Man of Steel should look a little more indestructible. Davis didn't even buff up during his transformation!

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I like this doomsday the most out of the previous doomsdays I've seen though.

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http://www.2dvalley.com/gallery/albums/dan-scott/Superman_Doomsday.jpg
This would have been superior if he looked dead like this. I think they did a pretty decent job though.

[Xanderman]

And all this time I thought Davis was going to end up being that comics villain "Doomsday", but it turns out he's actually a loyal servant of the Founders/the Dominion. Who knew.:lol: Oh I can't wait till Ben Sisko returns from the wormhole to get all up in Davis' face...lol

Seriously, Smallville's Doomsday in this episode reminded me a lot of what the Jem'Hadar look like (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). Decide for yourself:


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/xanderman27/JemHadar.jpg?t=1227413103
^Is this the REAL Davis?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/xanderman27/doomsday.jpg?t=1227413102
^Or is this? Your guess is as good as mine. :lol:



http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/xanderman27/BenSisko.jpg?t=1227413865
^Will this man spell trouble for Davis?

[6-Super-Man -5]

Haha, thats pretty funny!

[krpto]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/xanderman27/BenSisko.jpg?t=1227413865
^Will this man spell trouble for Davis?


Okay not a trekkie so won't comment on that but this guy looks like he could make a good steel (a hero who shows up after doomsday kills superman and helps metropolis till supes gets resurrected)

[DAISHI]

You gotta check out some issues with him Karafan. Nothing beats the real Doomsday and how menacing he is. Every other version has been watered down to some degree. I remember how shocked I was when I saw him in the comics back in 1992.

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I'm surprised they won't have him wear that gray suit the real Doomsday wore when he first showed up to save money on effects. Maybe he will don the suit sometime later in the season.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-man-of-steel/18-1.jpg

I have to quote this because few things caught my attention in comic history the way this cover did. I still remember collecting every issue of this series.

[Xanderman]

Haha, thats pretty funny!Thanks my fellow trek fan. heh (i'm assuming you're a fan)


Okay not a trekkie so won't comment on that but this guy looks like he could make a good steel (a hero who shows up after doomsday kills superman and helps metropolis till supes gets resurrected)That sounds like something Sisko would do too...lol (OT: by the way on the topic of DD offing Supes and resurrections, I have a feeling they're going to make Doomsday kill Clark, and get resurrected by Chloe, who will die in the process. And she will probably either re-learn Clark's secret or get her memories back around this time.)

[ClarkyBoy14]

I thought he looked good. The costume people did a good job.

[Kalista]

I wonder how they are going to make the fight between Clark and Doomsday look realistic when the DD suit looked so cheesy. It actually looks like rubber.

[ClarkyBoy14]

(OT: by the way on the topic of DD offing Supes and resurrections, I have a feeling they're going to make Doomsday kill Clark, and get resurrected by Chloe, who will die in the process. And she will probably either re-learn Clark's secret or get her memories back around this time.)

I would rather Chloe not be able to bring Clark back to life, because that's what we would all expect to happen. :\

[SnowBird]

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http://www.2dvalley.com/gallery/albums/dan-scott/Superman_Doomsday.jpg
This would have been superior if he looked dead like this. I think they did a pretty decent job though.

This is an awesome picture and SV Doomsday looks a lot like this one. I'm impressed!

[Doomsday666]

Everyone has a right to their own opinion but...

honestly, DD looks preatty good for TV wise. Yeah it looks fake but cheesy, comeon. What exactly were people looking for? Big Screen quality? Ha, Id laugh in anyone's face that actually thought it will be that good. SV did what it could do with its budget and made a fairly good version of Doomsday.

I think people need to be happy that they actually tried to make a decent looking DD and not just have SW in make-up and bones coming out of him.

Then again nowadays there is no way to please people. *****ing and complaining comes naturally these days.

[Bane]

Doomsday looked great and it wasn't CGI....I think. Looked more like a very well done costume. CGI sucks, it destroyed Star Wars and George Lucas's pride and legacy, so guys keep it to a minimum. Thanks.;)


Comments like this are what make me mad. I love CGI & the use of costumes, but no one should blatantly say the other sucks. CGI doesn't suck because it can be used for things we can't do using costumes, while costumes can be used to give a more realistic effect if it can be done. Neither suck, and people should refrain from saying either sucks, because they are dead wrong.

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MOD EDIT He didnt even look like Godzilla.

I completely agree. They look nothing alike besides the spikes, so I don't get where the comparison is coming from.

Doomsday

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/xanderman27/doomsday.jpg?t=1227413102

Godzilla

http://pics.fort90.com/journal/godzilla.jpg

Yeah, they really look like twins? :rotfl:

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Everyone has a right to their own opinion but...

honestly, DD looks preatty good for TV wise. Yeah it looks fake but cheesy, comeon. What exactly were people looking for? Big Screen quality? Ha, Id laugh in anyone's face that actually thought it will be that good. SV did what it could do with its budget and made a fairly good version of Doomsday.

I think people need to be happy that they actually tried to make a decent looking DD and not just have SW in make-up and bones coming out of him.

Then again nowadays there is no way to please people. *****ing and complaining comes naturally these days.

Doomsday looked great...he didn't look cheesy or fake at all. I do agree that people complain too much, even when they're in the presence of a great TV show, film, or what have you. I can tell you Doomsday looks 100% better than what I thought they'd do, or what I had pictured in my head. People need to get over this need to complain about every single thing and just enjoy what they're watching, because that's the reason it's made; to entertain.

[Doomsday666]

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Doomsday looked great...he didn't look cheesy or fake at all. I do agree that people complain too much, even when they're in the presence of a great TV show, film, or what have you. I can tell you Doomsday looks 100% better than what I thought they'd do, or what I had pictured in my head. People need to get over this need to complain about every single thing and just enjoy what they're watching, because that's the reason it's made; to entertain.
What I meant about fake, is it wasnt going to look as real has a human. By no mean did I think he looks like rubber and what not.

Movie Quality Costum:
Blade Trinity Demonic Drake
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/interviews/e/bladefx1.jpghttp://www.dreadcentral.com/img/interviews/e/bladefx4.jpg

TV Quality Costum:
Smallville Doomsday
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/smallville/images/e/ee/Doomsday_fortress.JPG (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/smallville/images/e/ee/Doomsday_fortress.JPG)

Preatty close I have to say. Ten steps better then the 1990's costums:D

[Tompouce]

Maybe it is a little too much like rubber but it is very good likeness when you look at the JordanElliott's picture...Well, SV has not many means so I think we can be satisfied ;)

[Kalista]

TV Quality Costum:
Smallville Doomsday
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/smallville/images/e/ee/Doomsday_fortress.JPG (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/smallville/images/e/ee/Doomsday_fortress.JPG)

He looked good right there but at other moments he didn't.:\

[Doomsday666]

He looked good right there but at other moments he didn't.:\
Its actually the other way around for me I didnt really like this close up but in the Barn he loooked very good.:\

[Kalista]

Its actually the other way around for me I didnt really like this close up but in the Barn he loooked very good.:\

That was okay for me too but when he's walking through the Fortress of Doom, I just didn't like the way he looked.

[Doomsday666]

That was okay for me too but when he's walking through the Fortress of Doom, I just didn't like the way he looked.
Yeah I know what you mean. He looked okay, not as good as the Barn. Cheesyness didnt really strike me at all in that scene. That may be due to me polluting my brain with old school power rangers when I was younge. But still DD looked better then any of those villians used in that show. the quality of the costum was better.

[Kalista]

Yeah I know what you mean. He looked okay, not as good as the Barn. Cheesyness didnt really strike me at all in that scene. That may be due to me polluting my brain with old school power rangers when I was younge. But still DD looked better then any of those villians used in that show. the quality of the costum was better.

It's funny that you mention the Power Rangers. I was reading a review of Bride and the reviewer said that the Power Rangers called and they want their villian suit back. :rotfl:

Sorry.:o

[Doomsday666]

It's funny that you mention the Power Rangers. I was reading a review of Bride and the reviewer said that the Power Rangers called and they want their villian suit back. :rotfl:

Sorry.:o

Thats fine....

For me being in the Art field in college, its very easy for me to see differences in quality in costums, artworks & CGI effects.
Thats way....

DD Costum>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Power rangers, Lost show black fog, Sci-fi channel monsters, Gossip Girl

were did you read it anyways?

[hiler1988]

Doomsday still pulls of the demon-esque factor that they were going for...Yes, in the barn there are certain cheesy elements but in the final montage when he's carrying Chloe through the snow in the Fortress he looks amazing!! 100% villain!!

[fabror]

it's ok for me

[Doomsday911]

His best view is my profile pic

[Bane]

One thing I don't quite understand is how people are saying how he looked horrible all throughout, and yet, he was in the darkness for most of the attack.

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What I meant about fake, is it wasnt going to look as real has a human. By no mean did I think he looks like rubber and what not.

Movie Quality Costum:
Blade Trinity Demonic Drake
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/interviews/e/bladefx1.jpghttp://www.dreadcentral.com/img/interviews/e/bladefx4.jpg

TV Quality Costum:
Smallville Doomsday
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/smallville/images/e/ee/Doomsday_fortress.JPG (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/smallville/images/e/ee/Doomsday_fortress.JPG)

Preatty close I have to say. Ten steps better then the 1990's costums:D


Both look great, so I still don't see the complaints. From what we did see of Doomsday in the darkness, it looks pretty good. Keep in mind Smallville can only do so much with it's budget. WB should be shelling out a little more money into the show, considering the amount of DVD's it seems to sell per year.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I really don't think it looked rubber. You could barely even so it, because he was in the shadows most of the time.

[xrayvision]

I don't think he looked like anything from Power Rangers. He looked pretty damn realistic to me. Supernatural has done a pretty good job making their monsters look real without using much CGI.

[Bane]

I relooked at the scene with Doomsday yesterday, and I stand by my statement that it looked very real, and not like rubber at all.

[dijonaise]

smallville's doomsday looks fantastic. i just wish we could have seen more clark / doomsday interaction.

[Sweetie]

I thought his look was awesome and the transformation was terrifying,it looked so painfull.

[Souper MAN!]

rubber, vinyl, whatever... if they were going for what Doomsday looked like in the comics, it looks a heck of a lot like him. i don't understand how you guys can criticize what he looked like from what was shown... unless I'm blind, we only seen him in the shadows and inside a foggy "Fortress of Doom."

[Bane]

My sentiments exactly. We see him in the darkness most of the time, but when we did catch glimpses of him, I thought he looked utterly fantastic. He looked a heck of a lot like the comics, but I don't think his evolution is completely done just yet. I'd like to see him become bigger and more gnarly.

[Xanderman]

I would rather Chloe not be able to bring Clark back to life, because that's what we would all expect to happen. :\There has to be a bigger reason why they gave Chloe that meteor power, and to me that reason has to be dying to save Clark. She saved Lois, she brought back Lex, there's only one person in the "big three" she hasn't "done" yet--the biggest one of all--future Supes.


So anyway, when Sisko arrives to defeat Davis, I wonder if he will bring Odo with him....lol

[Chacal]

Those complaining about the Doomsday costume should keep this in mind.

1. Has ANY character on this show been in costume except for Lex and Oliver? Maybe Aquaman, but I don't think so.

2. It's TV for god's sake, and they were almost agreeing that the costume was less than perfect by hiding it in shadows.

3. How exactly would you go about making a costume out of hard bones sticking out of someone?

We need to keep in mind at least they didn't go the Mxyzptlk route and just have Davis, out of costume, be Doomsday. I would take this over that scenario back in season 4. From the sound of it even the Legionaires aren't going to have costumes.

So let's be thankful for what we have. :)

Which is a cheezy Godzilla/Power Rangers/ Beasty Boy video costume of Doomsday, but at least it's a costume! :)

[Welling_is_pretty]

I was worried htat Doomsday would come off looking cheap and cheesy, a man in a big rubber suit. That was why I was thrilled that they mostly kept him in shadow (less is more and the monster you can't quite see is usually scarier). I think they did a pretty good job with it.

[Bane]

I hope he's not seen that much at all from now to the season finale, so they can just unload us with lots of Doomsday on the final episode of the season.

[Souper MAN!]

I hope he's not seen that much at all from now to the season finale, so they can just unload us with lots of Doomsday on the final episode of the season.
Good insight... i assume something will happen to Doomsday that will temporarily change him back to Davis, allowing him to keep his secret under control. I could see the season coming down to a Clark/Davis face to face showdown with Clark calling Davyboy out and end up with us seeing Doomsday get violent. Maybe it will lead to a certain someone possibly taking to the skies...:cool:

[6-Super-Man -5]

I hope he's not seen that much at all from now to the season finale, so they can just unload us with lots of Doomsday on the final episode of the season.

That would be a good idea!
So when you watch the final episode of the season, you'll be like "Wow, he looks more awesome then I thought he would!"

[Tatiana]

The classic horror movie trope is to never reveal all of the monster all at once (or in some cases ever). The monster is only revealed in quick glances, low lighting, or out of the corner of your eye. It's theoretically scarier because the audience's imagination provides the missing and truly scary details.

I thought they did a pretty good job for the first reveals. I suspect we'll see more of Doomsday's form in future episodes, but I'm a bit afraid if they abandon the "moody" lighting, Doomsday's going to look like Davis in a cheap rubber suit. So not cool.


I agree, I think it was pretty scary like that, I thought it was quite impressive, somewhat sad when Davis was transforming, and then at the party, I jumped even though I knew he was coming

[Doomsday911]

It was a great epiode. i loved the way DD looked

[ClarkyBoy14]

There has to be a bigger reason why they gave Chloe that meteor power, and to me that reason has to be dying to save Clark. She saved Lois, she brought back Lex, there's only one person in the "big three" she hasn't "done" yet--the biggest one of all--future Supes.

Well, the only reason she saved Lex was to save Clark. I don't think it's impossible that Chloe could save Clark once Doomsday kills him, but I would rather he be ressurected a different way. But no matter which way Clark is brought back, I want him to have one final conversation with Jonathan in that Great Big Barn in the Sky. ;)

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I hope he's not seen that much at all from now to the season finale, so they can just unload us with lots of Doomsday on the final episode of the season.

Yes, I would like glimpses here and there until the big fight in the season finale.

[Bane]

I'm just hoping we get a fight worthy of Doomsday. I don't want some two minute fight of Clark getting his ass handed to him, I want a back & forth fight for at least a good five to ten minutes where everything in their path is being destroyed....a fight where Clark finally lets loose and gives it his all.

[superhippie2000]

I'm just hoping we get a fight worthy of Doomsday. I don't want some two minute fight of Clark getting his ass handed to him, I want a back & forth fight for at least a good five to ten minutes where everything in their path is being destroyed....a fight where Clark finally lets loose and gives it his all.
ya i want that too but seeing how clarks punch is nothing we really needs to see him use heat and super breathe in the fight cause it will be better for clark to fight from a distance cause if doomsday gets withen a foot of clark he is doomed.

[Xx.Kal-El.xX]

I must admit, i was expecting him to look cheesy and completely CGI. From what I've seen, they actually put him in makeup and made him a suit that looks scary as %#@$.

Still don't like the hulk aspect of him, but still, he looks sweet.

Also, I already know TPTB will make clark chicken out and they'll never fight. For real fight. Not that crap we've been seeing.

[USuperManC]

i think that Doomsday looks awesome and hope to see clark fighting him and not just getting pummeled

I agree with you 100% on DD looking awesome, I have been waiting 15 years to finally see a "real" non-animated version of DD on television. But sorry to say the future encounters between him and Clark will most likely result in the same way lol. Clark, in the "pre-Superman" stage he's in during these episodes of Smallville, is no match for Doomsday.

[Bane]

I agree with you there, Jeff. In fact, I'm sure a lot of people do. Lately, in the media (movies & TV shows) Superman/Clark hasn't used all of his powers, only his strength. The more he uses his other powers, the better the fight will be. I like that Clark can't fly, but instead, like Doomsday, he'll have to jump.

[DWBSR620]

i think that Doomsday looks awesome and hope to see clark fighting him and not just getting pummeled

I agree with you 100% on this, and I think to much is being played up on the fact that Doomsday killed Supes. It seems to me that it would be way to soon to take it anywhere near that, and I think that a mature Clark standing on the precipice of assuming the mantle of his identity as Superman shouldn't be beat down to death. Although this would be a good time to have a big fight with Clark and Doomsday going all out against each other and both getting womped about, and not just a Clark getting his butt handed to him only to have at the last minute someone or something interceding on his behalf to defeat his foe. Clark also needs to use the full compliment of his powers to his advantage as well, and at this point they should take into consideration that Clark has been using his powers longer and has mastered them all except for flying of course or at least as of now. In seasons past the old show runners were more interested in showing off the villains powers at Clark's expense, but that shouldn't be the case now. This is a great time for Clark to be able to let loose against a powerful adversary as well, and show just how powerful he is to. Doomsday catching Clark's punch in the episode "Bride" and then easily dispatching him to the loft I think made Doomsday look all powerful against Clark, and that's just not the case. So they'd be wise to show just how powerful Clark is as well, and leave the death of Superman to the comics and animated DVD for now because there's no need for a repeat of it on Smallville. Also I think it'd be very unoriginal to take it there right now, and way to soon for Clark to die at Doomsday's hands. So just give us a great fight without the death of Clark, and let both characters let loose and show what they got. Take care.


Peace To All :cool:

[6-Super-Man -5]

Bow down to Doomsday everyone!

[Razzle]

I love it... although i wish they had the white hair included.