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Routh
11-18-2008, 09:37 PM
Please do not rate the episode until after the episode has aired.

Randy G.
11-19-2008, 12:22 AM
This thread will open during the Thursday 8pm of "Bride." :)

Super EJ
11-20-2008, 06:25 PM
Ok, first we start off with the whole thing that Lois finally realizes shes in love with Clark. But right when they're about to kiss Lana comes in and ruines the moment. DANG IT!!!! After, Doomsday Crashes the party and just throws Clark like a toothpick and lands right next to the green kryptonite. That sucks for him ... FOR SURE!!!! Chloe gets kid napped and taken to the Fortress to be inserted with Brainiac again. And now, wait for it........wait for it!!!......Wait for it!!!!!!! LEX IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: Whats worse now is that we have to wait TWO MONTHS!!!!TWO MONTHS to see the next episode on Jan. 15 (If Im right). This episode was a JAW DROPPER/BREAKER:eek:

doomsdaytitan
11-20-2008, 06:26 PM
i thought it fell short of the hype

oldblackmagick
11-20-2008, 06:30 PM
Hype is just BS...this episode was great as were all other episodes this season. plus we had chloe say she felt the weight had been lifted since she didn't know clark's secret. So when Lois got the shaft it felt fitting in the themes of this episode. Plus i gotta give the writers credit they know how to bring lana back...it's the new chun li:p but i was glad they grouped the episodes together with 10 in a row and that they gave an exact date for its return...makes it easier to watch IMO

STFanatic
11-20-2008, 06:47 PM
This thread is now open :D

lm1212
11-20-2008, 06:52 PM
Okay, so I'm not a fan of scary movies, because the monsters always seem to be far from scary, and even cheesy to me. Sorry, but I had a feeling Doomsay's look was going to be a little cheese-filled, and I was right. It's my opinion, so please don't criticize it. I though the whole "scare factor" didn't work well.
The good news, is that for me, everything else was right with the episode. The acting was on point with everyone. The story-line was predictable until the last 15 minutes or so, but worth watching.

The goods:

The Clois action had me screaming (I had every right jump up and down yelling)
The chemistry was absolutely amazing. I didn't expect it to work so well, changing from the bantering to an awkward connection so fast, but It was done perfectly.

Clark himself just keeps getting better looking every episode this season. I was melting every moment of his screen time. Ladies, I know you can agree with me :)

The good enoughs:

Chimmy wasn't as annoying as I thought It would be. That's actually great work, coming from a Chlavis fan. I liked Jimmy a lot this episode for some reason.

Lana came back, as expected, with more secrets and lies. BUT I'm glad she said what she did about her and Clark not being right for each other. She didn't annoy me that much, that was a job well done also.

Oh, and Davis! I almost forgot Davis...well...there wasn't much of Davis I guess. They're doing a good job of making him the creepy crazy guy, but I liked his good and stable character too much I guess...So I'm not sure of what to say about him.

The last few minutes was a good cliffhanger. I'm not totally sure about why "Lex" was hooked with all those wires though. Am I missing some info? Was that Lana's doing? Guess that's why they call it a cliffhanger :)

So, I gave this episode a 9. To be exact, I gave it an 8.67 :) Oh, and I'll definitely go crazy waiting until January for new episodes (that won't even have Lois).

Saber
11-20-2008, 06:53 PM
I gave this episode an 8.
It’s good to see this place jumping tonight. :D

I liked that not everything was wrapped up into a nice little all and be all package. Pieces of the puzzle were just thrown around for the audience to speculate. It was well thought out with the direction, writing & music. The ending was great, I’m hoping for Lex to come back in any way shape or form.

I also like that the villains decided to do a home invasion of the FOS. It’s going to be a one butt kicking showdown.

What was a bit of a ewww moment was Chloe having a wedding in a barn. No matter how much Febreze you spray, that place still must have literally stunk. LOL

monel49
11-20-2008, 06:55 PM
What a great episode! Gave it a 10. Where can I start?
***Thank God, Clark has grown up. Was very worried about the return of Lana, but that went okay. No more high school whining and pining.

***Lois and Clark, excellent again. I really like what they are doing with this relationship. No infatuation here like with Lana. This looks like the beginning of real love.

***Doomsday--a realy scary villain. Shades of John Milton and Paradise Lost. The scene of Doomsday carrying Chloe into the Dark Fortress was a vision of hell. SV's take on the Doomsday character is great. The devolution of Davis Bloome into this horrendous figure is fascinating. And the Braniac connection makes it all the more interesting.

***Chloe. Chloe. Chloe. Aren't you gald she's back this year. Looks beautiful and the final shot of her looking longingly, lustfully at Doomsday in the Dark Fortress was just a chilling shot.

Finally, its wonderful to see that the hiatus won't be long at all. Hurry up Januaary 15!
The first half of this season has been spectacular. Surely the execs at CW can recognize quality television. Let's give this revamped, renewed show a bigger budget and a new season.

davidbrenton
11-20-2008, 06:59 PM
I LOVED CLOIS. PS3 paid soooo much attention to it that I am giving them rope because they earned it.

Lois was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. What a contrast with her and Clark and Lana and Clark. OMG, NO COMPARISON.

boricuaprince692000
11-20-2008, 06:59 PM
That is hands down 1 of the best episodes i've seen in a while doomsday was everything i expected & more the clois moments were awesome the episodeas a whole was perfect i jus cant wait until the inevitible battle between clark & doomsday. GO DOOMSDAY!!!:lol:

Blugolds22
11-20-2008, 07:03 PM
not that great. i liked certain parts, but it never had me sitting on the edge of my seat like other episodes (except for the almost Clois kiss which was a huge letdown IMO). Looks like they will be putting Lois and Clark together in the Valentine's Day episode possibly. It might be good for Clark to have these next 3 or 4 episodes with Lana to completely get over her, but as a person who is tired of the producers dragging out this relationship that we know is gonna happen, it was disappointing not to have the Clois kiss. I think now they might have an interesting conversation when Lois and Clark actually speak again about the almost kiss. I'm going to die waiting for it, though. The only scene I really loved was when Lois talked to Oliver. She really has strong feelings for Clark and I'm really looking forward to when they do get together. I'm just really lost on why Lana was in the same place as Green Arrow, how Lex was playing big brother, what the hell is going on with Chloe. I got my hopes up again in the last Clois scene. I was hoping that Clark would realize how every moment he has is precious and plant one on Lois. (I know it sounds pretty mushy but just roll with it.)

boricuaprince692000
11-20-2008, 07:03 PM
doomsday looks almost exactly the same as he does in the comic

davidbrenton
11-20-2008, 07:03 PM
The episode took time on the characters which was unexpected and greatly enjoyed.

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Ginx
11-20-2008, 07:03 PM
9/10 Was pretty happy with most of the episode. I do wish there was a little less wedding and more Clark/Lois or Doomsday though. Lana was acting a little strange so hopefully we'll get more info on that.

Bizarro345
11-20-2008, 07:04 PM
DOOMSDAY RULED!!!! And the ending...HOLY...!

superhippie2000
11-20-2008, 07:05 PM
i thought it was great. wish we had more doomsday tho. he looked awesome. and lex at the end wow. cant wait to see what happens next.

boricuaprince692000
11-20-2008, 07:06 PM
clark needs to grow a pair give lois the best kiss she ever had & so they can start goin out already.

jackhammerslam
11-20-2008, 07:07 PM
9/10 this is probably my favorite next to Justice.


Oh, and was it just me, or did Legion look like it had so much potential in that trailer?

boricuaprince692000
11-20-2008, 07:09 PM
Doomsday Own The Hell Out Of Clark Cant Wait Till They Fight!!go Doomsday

thehenry89
11-20-2008, 07:13 PM
Totally off topic but we've beat our own record for most people on line in a single night. :D good job guys.

ClarkyBoy14
11-20-2008, 07:15 PM
Really, it was great. Everyone one of the actors did an amazing job. I especially enjoyed the scenes with Clark and Lois as well as the Ollie/Lana and Ollie/Lois scenes. Also, AM and ED looked great in their dresses. The Clois stuff was great, as well as the continuity. And there were so many great lines.

I loved the way the whole thing went. It's left us with so many questions and cliffhangers, I think I might explode before January 15 gets here! :lol:

Also, the Doomsday stuff was really cool. The only thing I didn't like is how Clark was incapacitated by kryptonite again. :\

10/10

Thil_EL
11-20-2008, 07:18 PM
7.5 would have given it a 10 if they left out all the Lois/clois drama nonesence. Those parts really dragged the show.

davidbrenton
11-20-2008, 07:21 PM
7.5 would have given it a 10 if they left out all the Lois/clois drama nonesence. Those parts really dragged the show.

I thought they made the show.

ShInE4YoU
11-20-2008, 07:26 PM
clark needs to grow a pair give lois the best kiss she ever had & so they can start goin out already.
^^^^yes!!!! then Lana had to kill it!!!!

pizzahead2490
11-20-2008, 07:27 PM
i gave it a 7, i expected more from this eppy, i was really dissapointed by the doomsday scenes i wanted to see more devastaion, and bloody massacre

wooosmallville
11-20-2008, 07:32 PM
Great episode! Perfect 10/10
i surprisingly LOVED Lana! She has grown up a lot and so has Clark. S7 CLark would have stayed with her at the hospital..but not our S8 Clark! This episode wasn't a step back him like I feared. Doomsday was fantastic. The photography was amazing this episode. Everything was perfect!

Bizarro345
11-20-2008, 07:32 PM
The way Doomsday slapped Clark flying like nothing made attacks from Zod and Bizarro look like nothing...awesome.

laxkid713
11-20-2008, 07:33 PM
I thought this was a great episode and the Clois scenes definitely made it great,the relationship may seem a little rushed but i like smallville's take on Lois and Clark.

tibbit78
11-20-2008, 07:36 PM
What did I think of Bride?


I thought it was a great and also very disappointing episode. Erica did a fantastic job acting. All the cast did a great job in acting. The only thing that made me feel bad is that Smallville keeps becoming sadder and sadder (depressing). I wish that they could have happier episodes (like Lois & Clark: The Adventures of Superman had more happy episodes than sad episodes. And even Christopher Reeve's Superman movies weren't sad at all. Lex Luthor was very comical in the movies).

I get tired of Smallville making me cry (especially when it keeps reminding me of the loss of my loved ones). Come on PS3, start bringing some happier episodes, rather than sad episodes. Stop making me feel bad!

I don't understand the ending part where Chloe's eyes look weird (with white contacts in her eyes). Then she smiled. At the end there was a bald-headed guy and I'm wondering if that's supposed to be Lex Luthor.

Kristin Kreuk looked beautiful in Bride; her hair and makeup looked great. Tom Welling looked handsome. Erica Durance looked beautiful, also. I loved Jimmy Olsen trying to influence Lois to go out with Clark; him telling Lois Lane that:

"Lois & Clark would be great together."

Again, the episode was great and not so great; there was some sadness to it.



(I'm looking forward to Fallen One's/Cedric's review. Cedric's reviews always cheer me up and make me laugh). :lol:

kryptonian13
11-20-2008, 07:54 PM
this episode was reallly good, in my opinion. all the characters acted very mature. i loved all the clois scenes, they were really good. doomsday was also really good, and those last couple of scenes were really good(they were kind of freaky, but were good clifhangers) so overall the episode was great.:)

unfocused
11-20-2008, 07:56 PM
I was hyped up, but I knew the episode wouldn't live up to it until the final half hour. Doomsday looked pretty good. I guess I couldn't have asked for a more better looking monster, given the reduced budget. So I believe he looked about as good as he could have, and I really liked the way he was portrayed.

The marriage was fantastic, you get the feeling that this was a very important day in Chloe and Jimmy's life, which is what I expected. So much love, love that was triumphed in the end by Doomsday and the Fortress of Doom. Spectacular. Bride lived up to the hype of the marriage aspect of the episode.

Lana's return was nice. She looked beautiful as always, and she brought with her more secrets that added to the show pretty well. I loved her speech with Clark about Chloe's "wedding gift." Chlarkers and Chloe fans must be really mad that their sworn enemy is standing up for their most beloved character :lol: Just kidding, of course. But the Clana ordeal seems to be on the right track. It's not over by a long shot, but I can see these two making amends really soon and ending an onscreen friendship in an honorable way.

The Clois. I have to admit, I really enjoy seeing Lois so utterly taken by her affection for Clark. She is putty, for once, and not the rock she tries to be so much in front of Clark and Chloe and in the Daily Planet. Smallville's take on the growing affection between Lois and Clark is nice, the way that it is Lois who is falling for Clark harder this time around. For a split second, I actually thought Clark was saying those vows to her, and I even almost shed a tear at what I thought was going to be one of the most iconic scenes in Smallville history (Clark confessing his love to her), but I guess I'm going to have to wait longer for that. I do love the added closure we got with Lois and Oliver. Last we heard, Oliver thought her and Clark were getting married, I guess Clark told him the truth that it was just a ploy. Either way, Oliver is a great person, he handled that situation with Lois pretty well.

The ending scene with Lex was confusing. Purposely and understandably. It wasn't the most climactic cliffhanger, but it works for me. Because the Fortress of Doom scene was incredible. The way Doomsday walks in, as if it's HIS house now, laying Chloe down so BrainIAC can finally take complete control of her was AMAZING and shocking at the same time. It was a DIRECT mirror to Clark, Jor-El and the Fortress of Solitude and I think it was beautifully done.

I wouldn't say Bride was the best episode so far, it would have been difficult to be since it was a wedding episode. But Doomsday was yet another thrilling introduction for yet another powerful villain. I haven't been this excited for a new villain since Bizarro threw Clark out of the dam. Overall, this episode made me want more Doomsday, I'm definitely going to be here January 15th, 2009. So, I believe Bride did it's job and served it's purpose. I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, Green Arrow, Lois, Chloe, Clark, Doomsday... it was one of the best this season.

drcutie8928
11-20-2008, 07:58 PM
I gave it a 10. This was a really good episode. The chemistry between Lois and Clark was amazing. They both played that so well. I even felt bad for Lois when Lana walked in and she didn't get to kiss that beautiful man, but I knew they weren't going to kiss....yet. The acting was also really good, and I loved how they showed some scenes through the video camera, it looked like a movie I saw recently. (completely forgot the name now, but the whole movie was through a video camera). Any-who, I loved that aspect of the eppy. It's good to see that Clark and Lois weren't ignoring their feelings, they know how they both feel about each other.

I also loved that Clark and Lana realized that they weren't meant to be. I love 'em and all, but let's face it. It was also really cute when Ollie knew Lois was talking about Clark during their moment on the porch, it's good that he can be good friends with her after what they had. I've never really seen Lois like that before, but it's a different side of her that is nice to see.

Overall, really, really, good episode. Many cliffhangers to ponder over Christmas and the New Year. Can't wait until Jan. 15, THE NEW TRAILER LOOKS CRAZY!!!

lovinredkclark
11-20-2008, 07:58 PM
BEST THIS SEASON

it had everything. love, longing, loathing and leaving.:rotfl:

ZODisGOD
11-20-2008, 07:58 PM
I gave this a 10. Clois dragged on a lil long, and the show could use more Doomsday.
I still gave this a 10 anyway because of the amazing cliffhanger and LEX.

jqedward
11-20-2008, 08:03 PM
This episode was great all around! Kristin did a terrific job in her return to the show. I loved both the Clana and Clois moments in the episode I thought they were expertly done. Why oh Why didn't they let Lois and Clark fully kiss. I hate when they do that. I had been a long time Clana fan, but now that that is over I really want Lois and Clark to get together. The ending was like WTF. Is Michael coming back!

Mr. T
11-20-2008, 08:04 PM
10/10 as always.

supermommy
11-20-2008, 08:11 PM
omg. I don't know if I can wait until January 15. This episode was amazing. Wow. So many what the . . . moments. Woo hoo.

Darth Pipes
11-20-2008, 08:15 PM
8

I very much enjoyed tonight's episode. The first appearance of Doomsday was awesome and I'm glad we got a full costume. Liked the Clark/Oliver/Cuba subplot as well and that guy (who was he anyway?) saying the two had a lover's spat. I can do without the Clana drama but I thought the scene between the two of them was quite good. Very cool with Lex at the end, although it reminded me of Brainiac.

Some points are lost by having Jimmy be the latest character on this show to pimp out Lois and Clark. God, enough already! We know they're going to end up together...we don't need every character pimping them out. Ollie did the same thing but at least he didn't do it with a wink and a nod. I think Welling and Durance have good chemistry together but it's long overdue that this show learns some subtly and doesn't try to ram this storyline down everyone's throat. I'm not holding my breath though.

Jimmy got what was coming to him for pimping Lois and Clark though.

"I need a new heart and liver, CK!"

jqedward
11-20-2008, 08:17 PM
omg. I don't know if I can wait until January 15. This episode was amazing. Wow. So many what the . . . moments. Woo hoo.

I'm with you that is way too long to wait! Why do they have to go on hiatus at all?

STFanatic
11-20-2008, 08:20 PM
I can't believe what I saw in the trailer!!!

A villian from the future :eek:

smallvilleluvr07
11-20-2008, 08:26 PM
Best ep in a while. Great lines, good continuity, kept a good pace. Loved the Clark/Lois scenes, especially the one where the nearly kissed, only to have Lana walk in at that exact moment. Talk about irony. :\ Loved the Doomsday scene. Davis keeps getting creepier and creepier. I can't wait for Jan. 15!! Hope Jimmy pulls through, and can't wait to see what happens to Chloe. I gave the ep a 10.

colibri
11-20-2008, 08:29 PM
I gave it an 8. I enjoyed it but I thought other episodes were tighter. I was a bit disappointed that that the "bloody mess" was not all that bloody, weird I know, but true. I was expecting a bigger rampage. I actually liked Lana here. I thought that the acting was amazing this episode, especially with SW and ED. I remember why I did enjoy Lollie. The two actors work well together. Was that Lex at the end or Braniac (like in the comics)?

zorasuperman
11-20-2008, 08:30 PM
yea i loved the clois i bet you thats probably what a good chunk of the viewers watching it. the clois kiss is what really enticed viewers. its there on the polls of why ppl are watching the bride episode as the main reason. second i believe is cuz of doomsday

globalbudd3
11-20-2008, 08:31 PM
It was the best so far. I am glad that I have seen this episode because I missed a lot due to work. Anyways, it has everything that kept me glued to my tv screen. It has everything from romance, horror, adventure and heroism.

Happy to see Kristin Kreuk and Michael Rosenbaum at the end?

Love the melodrama between Clark and Lois, Clark and Lana...Haha..I am a sucker for this type of thing.

Kristin looks great but she lost too much weight in my opinion. And ofcourse, Erica looks sexy as ever. And who can forget the blushing bride, played radiantly by Allison.

Well the guys were...okay...LOL....they are great as ever...Tom, Aaron and Justin. Ofcourse, seeing the bald head of Lexie, deserved a 10 in itself...

smallvillereporter27
11-20-2008, 08:31 PM
I gave it a 10/10 for the ending. Awesome. I thought there should've have been more Doomsday and less Lana nonsense/Clois. Don't get me wrong, the Clois was really good in this episdoe...i just think the writers are overplaying that card and they are doing it too early. Clois should happen post Smallville, not during Smallville (sorry Clois fans). Though Erica and Tom have amazing chemistry and there scenes were very good and heartfelt.

Clark and Lana have matured, which made Lana tolerable in this episode. liked how they hinted that she was still up to something. I wonder who she's working for...
Chloe and Jimmy were cute. I'm still unsure about Chimmy, but it seemed ok in this episode.

The ending was amazing. And the photography was beautiful. Nice twist at the end. I can't believe we have to wait till January 15th.

susangail
11-20-2008, 08:32 PM
I gave it an 8. Would have liked more Doomsday but really liked the transformation effect at the dumpster. Really liked the porch scene with Lois and Oliver. Shivered at the last two scenes -- Doomsday and Chloiac at the infected fortress (yikes, will they infect an unsuspecting Clark?) and a tubed-up Lex.

Blue Orange NY
11-20-2008, 08:35 PM
what's up people,

first off, if we all thought waiting for this episode was torture now think about Jan 15, that's nuts....

Anyway, I loved the episode, more questions raised then expected.....regarding a lot people's question, wishing for more fighting....the whole CK flying and coming across Kyrp was predictable.....I wasn't expecting Clark to fight head on with DD in front of everyone, especially the camera guy was there etc etc....so it was a decent cop out for the fight scene.....I laughed when Lana came in, funny how she C$%# blocked Lois and her kiss moment with CK....

my questions are....1. who was that dude with GA in the jet? that was strange and the guy didn't look like a good guy, 2. Lana, she must be working with Lex, he's the one that could've texted her...we need to watch out for her she's up to no good, 3. The bald guy, had to be Lex, but why is he tied up.....now what would've been a little bit better would have been Lex doing a voice over, same scene, but with him saying something funky, "Clark, I see you!!!!!!" lol 4. who was that dude fighting Clark in the Legion preview?

anyway loved the episode, the only problem is now we have to wait 1 1/2 month

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you know when Lana had her back to Clark, I was like, ok Kristin.....dress is showing like you have a nice little bootie, lol




It was the best so far. I am glad that I have seen this episode because I missed a lot due to work. Anyways, it has everything that kept me glued to my tv screen. It has everything from romance, horror, adventure and heroism.

Happy to see Kristin Kreuk and Michael Rosenbaum at the end?

Love the melodrama between Clark and Lois, Clark and Lana...Haha..I am a sucker for this type of thing.

Kristin looks great but she lost too much weight in my opinion. And ofcourse, Erica looks sexy as ever. And who can forget the blushing bride, played radiantly by Allison.

Well the guys were...okay...LOL....they are great as ever...Tom, Aaron and Justin. Ofcourse, seeing the bald head of Lexie, deserved a 10 in itself...

Lilah
11-20-2008, 08:46 PM
LOVED IT! I was visibly shaking through the whole thing. So EXCITED!!!

Karafan1
11-20-2008, 08:47 PM
I'm giving it a 9. It would have been 10 if Lana hadn't come in and screwed up the Lois/Clark kiss...Doomsday was pretty cool. We never got a really good look at him head to toe but that's ok. I'm sure we'll get a full body look later in the season..

SteveS
11-20-2008, 08:50 PM
All in all, I thought it was excellent.

lois-still not ready for prime time with ClarkMan. She stills speaks without thinking, is abusive in her speech to other people, lacks class, seeks out confrontation with the camera man (the only other to attack him was Doomsday and it ostensibly killed the poor guy for doing his job), and she turns to swilling alcohol in her weakness. Strong woman and independent woman she is not, Chloe and Lana are way beyond lois in that sense; poor lois is strong of body, weak of intellect and will and is the ultimate dependent personality who can't handle rejection.
On the other hand, I did laugh at her when she thoughtlessly spoke with sexual overtones on the cufflinks. She is head over heels in love with ClarkMan and he is mildly interested in her, at least until Lana appears on the scene. On the other hand, I almost like the near kiss when she was the aggressor and and Clarkman was as passive as a rock. And I did like how he embraced her to give her some reassurance before she headed off with little Jimmy.

Other than that, I liked Lana and was glad to see her reappear but she should have had Queen fly her in an emergency hair dresser. Lana showed strength and class along with residual emotion when she was with Clark. On the other hand, I wonder who she is in cahoots with?

It seems to me that Clarkman has had 3 people mention to him about memories, Choe, GA, and Lana and memory wipes are not highly esteemed by them. Clark looked superb in the program and even lois was dumb-struck and couldn't speak when looking at him. Normally she will mouth just any stupid thing to be saying something.

I did like how both Chloe and lois were impressed by ClarkMan's saving of the buttoniere (sp?) that Chloe had given him during the freshman year. Very sweet and telling.

Good episode. Now Clarkman has to deal with Lex, Brainiac, and Doomsday next year. Good luck.

mysticalweather
11-20-2008, 08:54 PM
The first 10 I've given this season.

I really enjoyed everything about the episode. Characters were good, plot was solid. Doomsday! Green Arrow! Wedding! Dare I say, even Lana was good. And Lex! Be still my heart!

I liked the way Clana was handled. No emo, no whining. Thank *goodness*. It wasn't easy for Clark, obivously, but he handled it like a man and they actually had a grownup conversation. Yay for that. Hopefully the rest of Lana's arc will have them falling into more of a friendship and leave the baggage at the door.

Lois was awesome. She shined in all of her scenes. Clois scenes were a good mix of fun, awkward, and sweet. Loved the dance...especially the way Clark just grabbed her hand and sorta motioned towards the dance floor with his head (yes, I admit, I watched that scene a couple times...) And the almost-kiss! Darn it, Lana! But I'm not that upset, it makes for better UST. And for a really good Lollie scene. "He needs you, Lois." "How do you know?" "Because I know Clark." Aww. Seriously? Much love for this scene. Ollie is *such* a Cloiser now. ;)

Chloe looked spectacular. Chimmy was cute, I thought. Not overdone.

And then... Doomsday! Meeep!

Really, I'm not disappointed in the lack-of-fighting between Clark and Doomsday. This was their first actual face-off, so I'm not surprised it was over fairly quick. I'm sure next time Clark will rethink just going up and trying to punch him. LOL.

Poor Jimmy. I really hope he doesn't die. Sweet of Lois to go with him to Star City...guess without Chloe around, Lois is the closest thing he has to family at this point.

The return of Chloiac! That smile of hers was creepy. So is the FOS no long infected now that Brainiac is back in Chloe? When it's all said and done, will this turn of events jog Chloe's previously lost memories?

And, of course... LEX!!

*happy sigh*

But I might die of withdrawl before Jan 15...

OMEGA SAM87
11-20-2008, 08:59 PM
Loved the Episode gave it a 10/10!

I'm sure Erica Durance's absence in the next 4-5 episodes will be explained by Lois' semi-rejection, from that doomed-kiss; it really seemed to affect Lois(the look on her face when Lana appeared was priceless! I'm sure PS3 will just write in a clever reason why Lois is MIA; probably on some far away reporting assignment.

mysticalweather
11-20-2008, 09:08 PM
...

What was a bit of a ewww moment was Chloe having a wedding in a barn. No matter how much Febreze you spray, that place still must have literally stunk. LOL

It really wouldn't have been that bad. Usually bad odors from barns come from animals...cows, chickens, pigs, ect... But the only animal I recall ever being in the barn was Shelby...and the dog was getting a bath. LOL!

Seeing as how Clark has used the barn loft for YEARS as his own little hang out, I seriously doubt there are any objectionable smells in the barn.

SteveS
11-20-2008, 09:11 PM
Loved the Episode gave it a 10/10!

I'm sure Erica Durance's absence in the next 4-5 episodes will be explained by Lois' semi-rejection, from that doomed-kiss; it really seemed to affect Lois(the look on her face when Lana appeared was priceless! I'm sure PS3 will just write in a clever reason why Lois is MIA; probably on some far away reporting assignment.

Or she has gone on a drunken bender to drown her sorrows in booze, then signs herself into rehab some place. :)

Mar-El
11-20-2008, 09:14 PM
Doomsday was great. 10/10 just for Doomsday! Loved the effect when he battered Clark away like a fly. But then there's kryptonite there? How freaking predictable:rolleyes:

Also, the Lex scene at the end was kind of cool, but also kind of depressing. It would be a billion times more awesome (this is not an exaggeration) if we knew with certainty that Michael Rosenbaum is coming back. Well, fingers crossed, I guess.

I was hoping for more in the way of Clois (wow I must be greedy). It just doesn't feel to me that Clark really returns much of the same love for Lois as she shows him. I can't wait to see more develop...

I thought the episode would have been great without Lana. Her first episode back and she already ends up in the Smallville (or Metropolis) medical centre...go figure:rolleyes:. Lana's been more abused on that show in a couple seasons than some professional boxers are throughout their entire careers. Honestly, even her lines of dialogue were pretty annoying. Kudos to the writers on this one. Other than Lana's dialogue, I didn't have much to complain about.

I think Doomsday was in the fortress at the end? That was kinda cool, but I really hope his reason for getting Chloe has something to do with Brainiac and not just for the sake of Davis loving Chloe. I hate it when evil characters are motivated to do certain things on this show out of their love for other characters. Remember Bizarro/Lana anyone?

Other than that, it seemed like a lot of this episode was talking. I was expecting more in the way of action.

I'd give the first half of the episode a 5 and the last half of it an 8. Added together and averaged, that means I'd give this episode a 6.5...but that seems kind of low, so I'm going to round it up to a 7. That still seems kind of low...I mean, COME ON DOOMSDAY! YEAH!

So...definitely not my favorite episode this season, but a generous 7.5/10

6-Super-Man -5
11-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Episode was great, so I'll give it an 9, not that much action... and hurt Lois? :(

Black Panda
11-20-2008, 09:25 PM
Wow, that was some really boring garbage there. It occassionally rose to the level of insulting to my intelligence, but mostly just dull.

SnowBird
11-20-2008, 09:27 PM
A Super episode that had something for everyone. Actually I liked the barn for the wedding since so many great scenes took place in the Kent barn which brought back memories for me. I think they did a good job cleaning and decorating. Chloe was happy with it and as long as the bride is happy, so am I. I'm getting use to Chloe and Jimmy as a couple and they were so happy but I'm wondering if they will have a future together. Lois and Clark were magic and sparks were flying as they finally agree about their feelings for each other. Lana and Clark have their talk and he didn't even seem disappointed that they were finished and I hope it sticks for the next 4 episodes until she leaves for good. Lana has her secrets and lies and should make for a good storyline. Doomsday looked good to me. I don't like horror shows but it was done okay where I didn't have to cover my head. Cliffhangers were good and I wasn't expecting Doomsday and Chloe to end up in the Fortress. Lex was a surprise in the end and he looks like he didn't get out of the arctic without some damage to his body. The season has been amazing and Bride gets a 10.

6-Super-Man -5
11-20-2008, 09:28 PM
Yeah, its hard for me to write and read stuff!
Log off people! :p

This episode was well done.

Kandorman
11-20-2008, 09:28 PM
I give it a 9. I thought the acting was very good all around. The dialogue was meaningful and well delivered. I loved the Clark and Lois scenes...some good heat generated. Gotta love the cuff link innuendo...touche!

Even Jimmy was at the top of his game. Doomsday...formidable is the word!! He will definitely give the script writers some good meat to chew on for the rest of the season. If that does not force Clark into the tights, nothing will!

It will be tough to wait for the new year. If this turns out to be the final season, I hope they are able to put a satisfying wrap on things. No small task ahead!!

redkryptoniteisthebest
11-20-2008, 09:29 PM
Lol, seriously. Some people need to get off! :)

I loved Bride and every part in it. The characters, plot and the shocking ending!!!

NaYa
11-20-2008, 09:30 PM
Great episode! Best so far in my opinion

kalel5313
11-20-2008, 09:31 PM
There were some cheesy moments, but overall I thought that it was a good episode.

pizzahead2490
11-20-2008, 09:31 PM
i agree, i keep on getting the server is busy!!!

the eppy was ok

6-Super-Man -5
11-20-2008, 09:32 PM
Lol, seriously. Some people need to get off! :)

I loved Bride and every part in it. The characters, plot and the shocking ending!!!

Heck yeah!

Bilza
11-20-2008, 09:34 PM
10!! One of the best episodes of all time even without my favourite actor MR and character Lex Luthor. One of the great cliff hangers and we have to wait until January ah! :(

ok as much as I love this episode..i'm totally confused!!! Lex is back??? why the hell was he attached to all these wires??
MR is not back and it's not him at the end scene. But his character (maybe a clone version or controlled by Braniac) at end scene was probably played by someone else. We just saw the back of his bald head. But the bigger mystery is why was he attached to all these wires into his head??? It's as if he's been fed information about what's going on. Perhaps he has had his memory wiped out and some1 is trying to get his memories back. That's my suspicion. All we be revealed soon even without MR. I hope he does come back. He is the best!

It could be that Branic has control over Lex's body. Seems like Braniac would have control on everybody.

Maybe he's just in secret Luthorcorp facility...a place not even Tess knows about. I dont know whether Lex is awake trying to regain his memories or just in a state of a vegetable of some sort?


Coming from a guy, I loved the awkward Clois scenes...i was cracking up at Lois in particular..damn she is HOT! I felt sorry for her..such a sweety! I'm officially a fan of Clois! ;P

Looks like Clark and Lana have decided to become just friends. I guess it's for the best. But did anyone notice anything strange about Lana's behaviour. What's with the text message saying: "Did the Archer believe you?" Who sent that text? What is she really up to? Is it really the real Lana?

Doomsday was frickin awesome! What's also confusing is Chloe at the end in the fortress? Her eyes went all weird and started smiling at Doomsday?? Perhaps Braniac (who now controls the fortress) has taken over her body and mind once again as he cannot form a body anymore. .....so many questions...so much to look forward to!!! lol

And guys dont try and be negative plz! This episode rocks! No matter how much your entitled to your own opinion, dont be such a miserable bunch and try understand it's all part of the suspense to go with the entertainment. Not everything has to be revealed in one time. Remember this is smallville. The greatest written story on television with some amazing actors and intense/intriguing performances and scenes!! I love this show!

p.s. I'm in love with Erica Durance aswell as Lois Lane. Damn funny and incredibly sexy!

Black Panda
11-20-2008, 09:35 PM
i thought it fell short of the hype
Agreed. I had little suspense as to ... well anything. I just did not care what was happening in this episode. Clark wasn't broken up enough, Chloe wasn't evil enough. Lois was irritating, though I liked the scene with the champagne bottle. Ollie was an ass. Davis was too cursorary.

It was nice to see Lana though. I love you Lana, you lying self interested witch. Welcome back.

razta
11-20-2008, 09:37 PM
just when u thought it couldn't get any better, that episode was amazing!
the twists, the turns, the whole drama.. really great.. not only did we have Jimmy, but Oliver aswell both being cupid for CLois! haahahh

claudiss
11-20-2008, 09:39 PM
The episode was great, the good: Doomsday taking Chloe and the Lex ending! and I agree with those saying Chloe&Doomsday looked kinda like KingKong hahaha I thought the same too! oh and loved how everyone refered at Clark tonight, the good man, that everyone should be like him awww

but man there´s something I can´t still be ok with, it´s Chloe, I know her storyline this season is great but I still hate and cannot accept the mindwipe... I miss Chloe, please bring her back PS3!!!!



1) Okay, I'm going back to what the new head writers said about the direction of Chloe's character, and how all Chloe fans would all be pleased with the direction. HUH??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? I can see Chloe haters liking what they've done. But true Chloe fans? She couldn't even make a real decision because she only has partial memories.

I consider myself a Chloe fan, and I agree, she´s not herself anymore, It was like this was her twin sister!, god this is not the Chloe I met and loved for the past years.
We had in this episode clois romance beginning...ok, clana romance ending thing...ok, and then?...where is my chlark friendship?, I saw good friends but the truly chlark friendship? the heart of the show?... btw loved Lana saying she would´ve been mad at Clark if he tooked away her memories. see Clark?

I gave this episode a 7...loved lex head, Lana, Lois, Clark ,Chloe&Doomsday... -3 because I`m still mad at what they´ve done with Chloe´s memories.I can´t accept it and never will ,I really really hope she gets her memories back.

can`t wait til January!

Bre723
11-20-2008, 09:43 PM
The first 10 i gave of the season.
and i have to admit, because i watched the spoilers so many times it wasn't as excited in the beginning.
but still OMG.
It was great, the Clois scenes where great.
the almost kiss KILLED me though...i was yelling "Lana I haaate you!"haha.
i really don't hate her, just in that moment.
and the whole Lana messaging Lex(as i'm assuming).
hmmmmm, there has to be an explanation to that.
but the ending was a-maz-ing.
that look in chloes eyes, and LEEXXX!
ah, loooooove.
and doomsday looked really good too, plus i'm glad we actually had some music at the end.
i've really missed the music alot.
i could go on forever, but i wont.
loved it.

Drakaun
11-20-2008, 09:46 PM
If the Server is busy error message doesn't say enough about this episode I don't know what does. This is the first time in a long time that I have had difficulty viewing the forums after an episode aired which I think speaks wonders for the episode. This episode as a whole was freakin' sweet. I was entertained from the beginning to the end and really felt the burn when I saw that it was coming back January 15th after that. The story has really come together quite nicely and the cliffhangers really felt like cliffhangers as opposed to some of the so called cliffhangers we have gotten in recent years. One big example being Arctic. Smallville feels like a brand new show to me again with excitement around every corner and I am counting the days till the 15th. I have a strong feeling they aren't going to half ass resolve some of the cliffhangers seen in tonight's episode. I don't expect Clark to kill doomsday, rid the fortress of Brainiac's infection, and take down Lex all in one episode like they usually end up doing to resolve cliffhangers, I have a feeling these stories are going to keep playing out the rest of the season. Again I say awesome episode, keep it up!

Eryeal
11-20-2008, 09:48 PM
I really hope MR comes back for an episode stint or two .. actually he *should* come back with all the references to Lex this season, and of course the cliffhanger in "Bride". It would be ridiculous to have all this talk about Lex and show him, then cop out at some point and it not really be him.

If MR was really off the show for good - they shouldn't even mention him after the first episode. I truly hope they aren't doing this just to draw viewers in for the sake of viewers, and not planning on bringing MR back. That would plain be wrong.

virginie
11-20-2008, 09:48 PM
8/10 just because of what happen between Lois and Clark at the end. i almost cry it was so emotional...Lois was destroyed because of lana's return and Clark was sad to see Lois leaving too!!! And we won't see Lois in the episode 11, 12, 13 and 14:(:(so im wondering what the first scene of them in episode 15 will be!!!!!!!!! i can't wait until february 12!!!!!!!!! but at the end Lois realize that she is really in love with Clark and Clark realize that he's in love with her! and the writers want us to wait for 4 episodes!!!!!!!!! i think im not gonna be able to wait....

optinox
11-20-2008, 09:50 PM
I thought Davis transforming into DD was pretty good, the use of the cgi on his hand looked pretty realistic, as well his look when he crashed the wedding party looked good as well. We got to see his brute strength, as he merely swatted clark away, and stopping clarks punch like nothing. Jimmy on the other hand, must of got cut by DD protrusions on his hands. DD walking chloe into fortress of doom was a cool scene, it was like even though DD is the beast, Davis is still inside carrying her to alter, it was a real nice touch. I think eventuallly DD will totally take over, meaning no more Davis or human feelings. DD would normally trash, destroy, kill anythign that got in his way. He was gentle with Chloe. I also think theres not enough brainiac. Clark destroyed most of him, but because chloe was still infected, small traces were left of him. When Jor-El healed chloe, he gave brainiac the chance to infect the fortress and Jor-El's AI. Without a host maybe brainiac can't come back completely. I assume brainiac is behind the fact that chloe even met davis, and that he knew DD was inside davis. By infecting the fortress and changing into the fortress of doom, it probably released a beacon that lured DD to him, once brainiac infects chloe again he'l have a host, he can then access the fortress and use it to bring himself back to fulfill his other plans.

Clark being down by green K sorta sucked, but maybe the writers have a good fight scene coming and didn't want to put too much into this episode. Though i think clark knows who this thing is (the creature Jor-El spoke of), and knows its strong. I think DD looked bad@ss considering he's still evolving. This ep was mostly about the wedding, and as much as that was nice, the DD scenes were my favorite scenes.

Oliver i think wants to protect clark from lex, i think he also holds lex somewhat responcible for his parents deaths cause lionel was his father. Lana, i think is looking out for clark, basically doing the isis thing on her own secretly. If that was lex at the end, why would he have all those cables connected to him, watching a copy of the video of the wedding. That would mean someone who was there had to have given him a copy. Could it be that Lex was found alive, with hypothermia and has memory loss or is in vegetative state (like we seen), the question if that was him, someone has him...but why play a video of the wedding, to show him what. That clark isn't a threat, that things like DD are...or maybe he's in a vegetative state but can communicate and got a copy of the video somehow. either lex remembers or doesn't remember clarks secret.

Great ending music, fit perfectly into the end scenes, thought the lois and clark scene was going well until DD interrupted. All in all, there was alot of hype but i don't think we should of expected alot of action, since this ep was called "Bride", i think it being mostly about Jimmy/Chloe's special day was a decent episode, it didn't have much action, but did a good job introducing DD.

razta
11-20-2008, 09:53 PM
If the Server is busy error message doesn't say enough about this episode I don't know what does. This is the first time in a long time that I have had difficulty viewing the forums after an episode aired which I think speaks wonders for the episode. This episode as a whole was freakin' sweet. I was entertained from the beginning to the end and really felt the burn when I saw that it was coming back January 15th after that. The story has really come together quite nicely and the cliffhangers really felt like cliffhangers as opposed to some of the so called cliffhangers we have gotten in recent years. One big example being Arctic. Smallville feels like a brand new show to me again with excitement around every corner and I am counting the days till the 15th. I have a strong feeling they aren't going to half ass resolve some of the cliffhangers seen in tonight's episode. I don't expect Clark to kill doomsday, rid the fortress of Brainiac's infection, and take down Lex all in one episode like they usually end up doing to resolve cliffhangers, I have a feeling these stories are going to keep playing out the rest of the season. Again I say awesome episode, keep it up!

Agree Mate, i think the Lex vs Clark story will go on for a few episodes atleast.. maybe till end of the season.
considering they might need to get MR back to do a few cameos.. like they did for LV for Kara, to finish off her story.. about the infected fortress i think that iwll happen first as the legion will be taking car of killing Brainiac. i hope.. once he's dead then hopefully the fortress will be ok.. Doomsday.. well, what can i say maybe gets locked up in the phantom zone with mummy and daddy?

ginnyfan
11-20-2008, 10:07 PM
It was a little disjointed but overall a very good episode. I wonder how long the hiatus will be. It'll be hard to wait for the next few episodes. "Bride" was a starting gun to the whole Doomsday/Brainiac/Justice League/League of Baddies side of the plot I'm guessing.

There were a lot of touching scenes. I enjoyed the Chimmy, the Clois, the Chlo-Lo, the Chlark...

The Lana/Oliver/Lex stuff was odd and kinda random... the Doomsday stuff wasn't as explosive as I thought. The episode didn't really build suspense the way the Director's cut/Episode Opening did. Hopefully the show will build to a really awesome confrontation between Doomsday and Clark.

superspider02
11-20-2008, 10:08 PM
I agree a pretty good episode once again for the show. I enjoyed it alot. The cloverfield/blair witch and normal look was done well and the episode flashing back to earlier in the day was pretty neat and i totally expected it with how the episode started out. Doomsday looked pretty cool in the shots we saw him in. I totally hope we get to see a full showdown with him and clark either in legion or one of the other upcoming episodes. The suit/cgi mixture looked great and i am shocked how well he looked and they didnt copout on his like. Lois's development of feeling for clark was pretty good two, i loved their lovey dovey scenes and the house scene and the dance was great. Wished they kissed though darn lana walking in when she did.

Also ollie was pretty good in the episode and liked his interaction with lois, clark and his meeting up with lana when he was looking for lex. That scene was pretty cool looking. I wonder why the decided to have lana discover ollie's Green arrow, i thought it was a stupid move on ollie's part taking his glasses off after he thought he shot lex. Also his scene with lois all depressed was very sweet too.

Lana was actually pretty decent in her return here tonight. KK did well in the acting department and i cant wait to see what the rest of her arch will be in her 4 remaining episodes. Also having jimmy get hurt and lois deciding to go with him to watch over him was a nice way to have them gone for the next 4 episode.

Now the final scene with lex was sweet, and it probably was michael's stunt double standing in for body in the episode. I do remember an article awhile ago from the guy talking about smallville and this season. I do hope we get to have michael return in full body or atless voice and we only have the stunt body from the back and we hear michael.

I am also happy we actually got a preview for legion/second half of the season tonight. I was expecting not getting anything untill we were closer to legion's air date. Nice to see its jan 15 which is only 8 weeks away, i thought they were going to be gone for 13 weeks. Legion members looked great and i loved their present day outfits they were wearing, nice homages to their actual legion costumes. In the preview did any one notice if any of them were wearing legion rings i know johns said they will be in the episode. Also the legion villain we are getting looks cool, though i wonder out of the ones that were rumored to be in the running awhile ago mordu and time trapper why they decide to go with persuader??? Cant wait for jan 15th to come.

STFanatic
11-20-2008, 10:17 PM
I freeze framed through the trailer and it never showed their hands, all of them looked pretty good for the parts except Cosmic Boy, but it may have just been the scene.

j-peezy
11-20-2008, 10:23 PM
:rotfl:
8

I very much enjoyed tonight's episode. The first appearance of Doomsday was awesome and I'm glad we got a full costume. Liked the Clark/Oliver/Cuba subplot as well and that guy (who was he anyway?) saying the two had a lover's spat. I can do without the Clana drama but I thought the scene between the two of them was quite good. Very cool with Lex at the end, although it reminded me of Brainiac.

Some points are lost by having Jimmy be the latest character on this show to pimp out Lois and Clark. God, enough already! We know they're going to end up together...we don't need every character pimping them out. Ollie did the same thing but at least he didn't do it with a wink and a nod. I think Welling and Durance have good chemistry together but it's long overdue that this show learns some subtly and doesn't try to ram this storyline down everyone's throat. I'm not holding my breath though.

Jimmy got what was coming to him for pimping Lois and Clark though.

"I need a new heart and liver, CK!"

Dpyro
11-20-2008, 10:26 PM
The clois scenes in this was amazing this episode was very well written it was almost perfect it just felt like an old smallville episode again it was amazing I give it a 10.

optinox
11-20-2008, 10:29 PM
I thought Davis transforming into DD was pretty good, the use of the cgi on his hand looked pretty realistic, as well his look when he crashed the wedding party looked good as well. We got to see his brute strength, as he merely swatted clark away, and stopping clarks punch like nothing. Jimmy on the other hand, must of got cut by DD protrusions on his hands. DD walking chloe into fortress of doom was a cool scene, it was like even though DD is the beast, Davis is still inside carrying her to alter, it was a real nice touch. I think eventuallly DD will totally take over, meaning no more Davis or human feelings. DD would normally trash, destroy, kill anythign that got in his way. He was gentle with Chloe. I also think theres not enough brainiac. Clark destroyed most of him, but because chloe was still infected, small traces were left of him. When Jor-El healed chloe, he gave brainiac the chance to infect the fortress and Jor-El's AI. Without a host maybe brainiac can't come back completely. I assume brainiac is behind the fact that chloe even met davis, and that he knew DD was inside davis. By infecting the fortress and changing into the fortress of doom, it probably released a beacon that lured DD to him, once brainiac infects chloe again he'l have a host, he can then access the fortress and use it to bring himself back to fulfill his other plans.

Clark being down by green K sorta sucked, but maybe the writers have a good fight scene coming and didn't want to put too much into this episode. Though i think clark knows who this thing is (the creature Jor-El spoke of), and knows its strong. I think DD looked bad@ss considering he's still evolving. This ep was mostly about the wedding, and as much as that was nice, the DD scenes were my favorite scenes.

Oliver i think wants to protect clark from lex, i think he also holds lex somewhat responcible for his parents deaths cause lionel was his father. Lana, i think is looking out for clark, basically doing the isis thing on her own secretly. If that was lex at the end, why would he have all those cables connected to him, watching a copy of the video of the wedding. That would mean someone who was there had to have given him a copy. Could it be that Lex was found alive, with hypothermia and has memory loss or is in vegetative state (like we seen), the question if that was him, someone has him...but why play a video of the wedding, to show him what. That clark isn't a threat, that things like DD are...or maybe he's in a vegetative state but can communicate and got a copy of the video somehow. either lex remembers or doesn't remember clarks secret.

Great ending music, fit perfectly into the end scenes, thought the lois and clark scene was going well until DD interrupted. All in all, there was alot of hype but i don't think we should of expected alot of action, since this ep was called "Bride", i think it being mostly about Jimmy/Chloe's special day was a decent episode, it didn't have much action, but did a good job introducing DD.

STFanatic
11-20-2008, 10:33 PM
I thought it was pretty darn cool/brave of Jimmy defending his wife when he knew he had no chance at all.

I really like the two of them together. Even more so now.

faz
11-20-2008, 10:37 PM
Okay, so I'm not a fan of scary movies, because the monsters always seem to be far from scary, and even cheesy to me. Sorry, but I had a feeling Doomsay's look was going to be a little cheese-filled, and I was right. It's my opinion, so please don't criticize it. I though the whole "scare factor" didn't work well.
The good news, is that for me, everything else was right with the episode. The acting was on point with everyone. The story-line was predictable until the last 15 minutes or so, but worth watching.

I half agree with you here. I thought during the entire last scene in the FOS DDay looked incredibly cheesy. But in the scenes before that, I thought they did a rather good job. And don't forget that they don't have the budget of a feature film or even some other TV shows - for what they had to work with, Doomsday looked pretty good.

SuperFan85
11-20-2008, 10:43 PM
I got a real King Kong vibe from the end of the episode, with Doomsday carrying Chloe back to the Fortress, and Chloe herself looked almost like Fay Wray with the blonde hair and white dress, while she was being carried by the monster. I guess thats the angle they're going for

tyson08
11-20-2008, 10:45 PM
Incredible cliffhanger. Many questions that will have to wait.

The writers are on a roll!

j-peezy
11-20-2008, 10:47 PM
About Lois and Clak and destiny.....WORD.

We are not stupid viewers. We get it already. It's meant to be. Okay.

However, I really enjoyed tonight's episode. I think it could have used more of a masacre at the end but it was full of all of those good dramatic moments. I like how they handled Lana. I like seeing the tables turned; Lana knows and Chloe doesn't. Lana gets to be a hero now and Chloe is the damsel. Pretty cool. Lana needs her own show. I like her dark side. She is so bad a--. I like what she told Clark and how he reacted to it. So much more mature and realistic. And they both looked hot. I am dying to know what that girl is up to. It's sure to be something exciting. And, I am okay with Clark and Lois not quite kissing but almost. So predictable but enjoyable. I like that it's not all infatuationy like he was with Lana. Clois was so funny in S4 and they've grown into this awesome whitty couple. And I love Lois's soft side. SV has done a great job with their story. (Her dress was gorgeaous.) It feels like a deep meaningful relationship. I like when Lois was talking to Ollie and said how it just kinda snuck up on her. That's how the best relationships develop. I think it's great. Comparing it to the Christopher Reeves movies--which felt a lot like how Clana was on our show--SV Clois is so much richer. Love it and looking forward to more. And Chloe! I think it's fun to see Chloe get all evilish. AM is such a good actress. She can honestly do anything and make it believable. Can't wait to see what happens there. Doomsday is exciting. Don't know much about him since I didn't get into comics until Buffy and Angel, but he looks like he is going to give us a show. Interesting to see Clark get thrown like that. I like villians with layers and loveable qualities in the mix. Nevertheless, I miss Lex. There's no villian like your best friend gone enemy. Hope MR comes back someday--he was so funny and good at the Lex sarcasm. I am still looking forward to seeing how Clark is going to be able to win this year. I swear he gets better looking every season! AND, does it HAVE to be a huge cliffhanger all the time? AAAHHH. I'm going insane. Two months without my Smallville. Guess I'll have to watch S1-7 over my break. Can't wait til Jan. 15th.

amberdawn
11-20-2008, 10:52 PM
I thought it was pretty darn cool/brave of Jimmy defending his wife when he knew he had no chance at all.

I really like the two of them together. Even more so now.

I do agree with this. He just wanted to protect her and he basically knew he couldn't... but it didn't stop him from trying.

KH628
11-20-2008, 10:53 PM
Omg, this hiatus they are taking sucks. I could barely wait till it was thursday...let alone January! Eek. The anticipation. Little disappointed with Doomsday, but whatever, the Clois made up for it! Erica did fabulous. Loved the scene where Ollie tells Lois that 'he knows Clark'.

Bring on more Lois and Clark! Sad she won't be in the next 3-4 episodes. =( Then again, it gives Clark time to get this whole Lana thing over and done with.

I missed the trailer. Anyone know where I can find it??? Please.

Btw, loved the song at the end by Vast!

STFanatic
11-20-2008, 10:57 PM
Omg, this hiatus they are taking sucks. I could barely wait till it was thursday...let alone January! Eek. The anticipation. Little disappointed with Doomsday, but whatever, the Clois made up for it! Erica did fabulous. Loved the scene where Ollie tells Lois that 'he knows Clark'.

Bring on more Lois and Clark! Sad she won't be in the next 3-4 episodes. =( Then again, it gives Clark time to get this whole Lana thing over and done with.

I missed the trailer. Anyone know where I can find it??? Please.

Btw, loved the song at the end by Vast!

Check the Spoiler area, there is a thread for the next episode "Legion".

La Donna
11-20-2008, 10:58 PM
It was amazing. The only thing that really disappointed me was that after Lana showed up, Clark didn't even pay any attention to Lois. He should have looked back at Lois to see if she was still there after he first saw Lana, but he didn't. When Doomsday struck, Lana went down and Clark screamed "Lana" and ran to save her, and it seemed like she had to be the one to assure him she was fine and to go help the others. He never said "where's Lois, is she okay?". Then in the hospital with Lana, again she had to be the one to tell him to go find Chloe. Lois was there, and I felt like he only stopped to talk to Lois because she was in the hallway, otherwise I feel like he would have just left without even saying anything to her. He didn't seem to even care that she was going for an indeterminate amount of time. A good assumption would be that Jimmy's injuries are going to require a very lengthy amount of time spent in Star City, and yet Clark didn't care very much.

His face throughout the entire episode before Lana showed up was great at revealing the emotion he felt for Lois. You could tell he was falling for her romantically, and that he just didn't know what to do about it. And the way she tried to leave the dance floor, but he caught her hand and pulled her into a dance was "FREAKING AWESOME". It was like suddenly Clark was Mr. Suave.

But then, it all went downhill as far as the Clois. I'm anxious to see where they go in episode 15 when Lois comes back. I'm positive that the dynamic is going to shift, and Lois will have closed herself off to Clark by then, in order to spare herself any more pain, but Clark will have decided to go for it with her and so the chase will begin. I think that would be perfect, and I think it's what is going to happen, I just wish the last Clois scene could have somehow foreshadowed that. Maybe after her telling Clark she's going to Star City, he could have acted like he didn't want her to go, or suggested someone else to go with Jimmy. But nope, he seemed fine with not seeing her again for a long time. That disappointed me.

Otherwise, amazing. It deserved a 10 because it was a great episode, even if the Clois didn't end as well as I would have liked. DD was great (every time I read a post on these threads that shorthand Doomsday, my first thought is always Dumbledore), and I think they did great with the transformation. SW is such a great actor, and I hope that he gets to play the human side for most of the rest of his episodes. I don't know where they will take it, but I love Davis and love SW.

Chimmy was beautiful. Lana wasn't a drag in any way (even considering what I said about the Clois). She did seem different, more mature. I liked all of her lines, and I really want to know about the secret. I don't think she's texting Lex, or a bad guy. I think it has to do with her health problem, and not wanting Ollie to find out about it. Perhaps the treatment is something that's unethical in some way, and so she wants to keep it a secret, but probably it's just that she doesn't want anyone to know. KK was beautiful, as were all of the other actors. TW made me want to move to Canada, that's how hot he was.

I'll probably think of more later, but I for now, that's what stands out for me....

kentfamily
11-20-2008, 11:09 PM
Just didnt like Lana's hair extensions and her dress.
She's in black again. Does that mean she went back to her old ways of being tough and evil with things to hide?

Please make Lana's hair better!!!!

KH628
11-20-2008, 11:13 PM
Check the Spoiler area, there is a thread for the next episode "Legion".

Thanks a million! Going to check it now!

hellnback
11-20-2008, 11:22 PM
i was so hyped up about this episode and it was a letdown to me. they promoted this episode as if there was going to be a huge doomsday/clark battle or at least something exciting like that but nope we get doomsday all in shadow and way too much wedding stuff. not that it wasn't right but geez they went off on continuity. jimmy olsen getting married. now we'll have to wait until january to see it and i have a feeling there won't be much. everytime they leave a cliffhanger like this there really isn't much of a great resolution to it once the show comes back. they always seem to get the problems solved way to fast within the first half hour.

when chloe smiled at the end i see her finally being taken over by brainac. even though it was supposedly taken out of her, there was probably something still there. i was glad to see lana again at least for some kind of closure. also i thought she looked beautiful. was her hair real or fake? even so, she looked great. and lex at the end (a double obviously) was a nice touch. who is lana working with or for? who sent her the text? i'm liking this lana. all mysterious and such. just hot.

KEGZilla
11-20-2008, 11:30 PM
This show did exactly what it needed to...

It introduced Doomsday but in a way that keeps you asking for more. It was great not to have Doomsday overload in his first appearance and show him too much.

The scene in the dark fortress with Chloe looking at Doomsday was chilling and left me with so many questions that I have to wait until Jan. 15th to have answered.

They put the pieces in place to finally end the Clark-Lana relationship.

And they reintroduced Lex....more questions!!!:confused:

For a cliffhanger episode it was great...now if only January 15th was closer :(

Plus..how awesome did Chloe look when she was putting the garter on...WOW :p

I give 10

CK&CK
11-20-2008, 11:42 PM
I gave the episode a 2. I actually wanted to throw tomatoes at the screen. I mean, I felt rage.


1) Okay, I'm going back to what the new head writers said about the direction of Chloe's character, and how all Chloe fans would all be pleased with the direction. HUH??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? I can see Chloe haters liking what they've done. But true Chloe fans? She couldn't even make a real decision because she only has partial memories.

2) The romances in this episode were painful, just painful. I mean overdramatic to the point of melodrama. The music, the dialogue, the directing. Oh my gosh. When Lois was walking away and Clark grabbed her on the swell of music, I almost lost my dinner. I mean that was just bad. Bad directing. I can't stand melodrama. It was absurd. And then Lana's entrance as she broke up Lois and Clark?

3) The over the top anvils of "Lois and Clark." At this point, we get that they are going to end up together. But please! We don't need to be hit over the head with it. We don't need to hear their names grouped together over and over and over again. And then to pimp it on Chloe's wedding day was even worse.

4) CHIMMY! Gross. They are the worst couple on television. No chemistry, no passion, no real love. It's like watching two people settle. I can't stand it. They keep pimping them as a couple as if they're afraid Chloe will steal Clark away. Give me a break. Just put her with Davis or even Oliver. Anyone but Jimmy. Having to watch that over the top wedding in a BARN where Chloe had her first kiss with Clark is just nauseating. I HATED IT. The whole thing just pissed me off.

5) Chloe the pod person. Who was she? She didn't even know who she was. Was she Brainiac? Or just a shadow of herself because she doesn't remember much from the past four years. She didn't look happy, she looked empty. A shell of the Chloe we've all grown to know over the years.

6) No Chlark moments. After 8 seasons, and on Chloe's wedding day, Clark doesn't have an alone moment with her before the wedding? I'm sorry, but that was just wrong!!!!!!! And then they USE the corsage from her prom to pimp Lois? Just like the freakin Fever Letter. These writers are just rubbing me the wrong way.

7)They dragged the episode out forever! They left the action for like the last five minutes. I kept waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and nothing happened. I mean on Chloe's wedding day it was about EVERYONE else's relationships. Lois and Oliver: "Let's be friends." Lana and Clark: "Let's be friends and anti-anvil our own names." Everything was about pimping Lois and Clark into soul mates. They couldn't make it about Chloe not marrying her soul mate? Jimmy is NOT her soulmate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The guy's a wienie with a wandering eye. And suddenly we're just supposed to accept that they're meant to be? I DO NOT THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8) When Chloe and Jimmy are the least popular couple on the show, why the heck do they continue with it? Honestly? I mean do they just want to torture everyone. I like Jimmy, but not with Chloe. They don't have any chemistry at all. She should be with someone it is "easy" to be around. Enough said!

9) Lack of Chloe and Davis. I thought this episode was supposed to be about Doomsday and Chloe. Instead it's a soap opera where Chloe has hardly any lines other than how much she's in la la land with Jimmy. Davis couldn't try to talk to her right before the wedding? Even the Lexana wedding was more interesting. Davis (his face anyway) was in one scene. What a copout! All the hype was for nothing. Just one big horrible episode to pimp Clois, and force Chimmy upon us.

10) Why is Lois going to the hospital with Jimmy? And why is Lois acting like Chloe from earlier seasons "pining" for Clark? Hmmm. I always thought Lois liked Superman first, not Clark. Hey, at least their names are iconic. But, I'm sorry I just don't feel the two actor's chemistry. Their whole relationship in this episode felt too fast, forced, and melodramatic. Even more so than Clana ever was. And that's saying something.

11) They actually had to have a Clana loft scene DURING Chloe's wedding. Something tells me if Chloe could have looked into her future, she would have ran in the opposite direction.

Well I could go on and on, but I didn't like the episode. There was a few moments in the episode. But Doomsday saved what would have been one of the worst Smallville episodes in history. Smallville: The Soap Opera with a little bit of Doomsday on the side.

I really wanted to see Davis's reaction to Chloe getting married. But we don't. EVER. I hope we get some Chloe and Davis scenes in episode 11. And have Chloe and Jimmy's marriage annulled. Or better yet, hope that Jimmy never signed the marriage papers.

I'm just bugged. What a waste of what could have been a great episode. How can they make Chloe's wedding day all about Lois? It just makes me sick. These writers treat Chloe like an afterthought. Always have, and apparently always will.

I just hope Davis will learn to contol the monster within or find a way to separate himself from Doomsday! So, he and Chloe can be together. He's the only one who truly understands her. If Clark had, he wouldn't have taken her memories. If Lana and Oliver had understood Chloe, they would have tried to convince Clark to find a way to get her memories back. I could go on and on. But Davis. He sees her. They really are the Beauty and the Beast of Smallville. If the writers were smart, they'd continue to play this up and give them more screen time. I know TONS of people who haven't watched the show in years, but are now watching because of Davis.

Well anyway, I give it a 2 for the melodrama and waste of space that could have been an action-centric Doomsday episode. But was instead a soap of Lois and Clark. And how they are soul mates. We get it.

All your negatives are exactly why I, for the most part, tend to avoid this show now...and why I stopped buying the DVD's after season 5......oh, I do peak in once in a blue moon, I'll admit...(mostly cause of Green Arrow)......and "Bride" did have my curiosity perked up....what with Chloe, and especially DOOMSDAY!....That is until I saw some preview clips....which showed your negatives of #3, #4, and #8 all too clearly. I laughed and just said "no freakin way I'm watching this". And you know what.....sadly, it appears to have played out like it always does.......worse actually.....if what I'm reading here is any indication. And even with this killer curiousity about the way the Doomsday scenes played out....I know the drill.....and it's not worth watching 3/4 crap to get to 1/4 Gold Nugget.....if it is even that good when you finally get to it.

Chloe appears to no longer be Lois' kick a$$ cousin.....she's the female version of Jimmy Olson now......Jimmy, the most iconically boring character ever created.....relatively speaking of course. And how should we view Chloe Sullivan...as the new and improved Lucy Lane?.....It doesn't matter.....being married to Jimmy Olson is the kiss of death for any character. The only chemistry Chimmy has is that they're both blonde and nothing else......Now, Superman with a Kick A$$ Lois Lane....now that makes sense.........especially the "soulmates" part.....yeah....SOMEDAY.........but ex-kick a$$ Chloe Sullivan with an "Oh Gee Wilikers" Jimmy Olson? If I thought these two were on equal footing as characters go.....or even more ludicrous....that they're "soulmates".....I know it would only be because I've been smoking too much of that Green Kryptonite stuff......metaphorically speaking of course. But not worry, with Doomsday in it.....I suspect the ratings should be good......I mean Chimmy can't be that boring.......can it?

yosemiteangel
11-20-2008, 11:44 PM
Loved it! Counting the days until "Legion"!

Mars Investigations
11-21-2008, 12:06 AM
One of my favourite episodes from the entire series. I can't believe that some people actually hated this episode...I honestly can't see how. It had everything: Clois, Doomsday, a definitive end to Clana, Jimmy being decimated, a good dose of platonic Chlark, lots of Oliver, and freakin' LEX!

And some people still aren't happy?

I definitely am :D

dezperado
11-21-2008, 12:17 AM
9 out of 10. Episode was tight! Liked the sexual tension between Lois and Clark. Was pleased with the return of Lana and how it was handled. Want to know more on why Lana is in apparent cahoots with Lex? -Or so it seemed with the text that Lana recieved. And will we see a brief return of Lex in the future or just these sillouettes. Doomsday taking Chloe to the dark FOS was awesome with Chloe still apparently under Braniacs influence. WOW! January can't come soon enough.

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FlashInSV
11-21-2008, 12:34 AM
My God, I had read in the spoilers that we should watch very carefully the last few seconds of this episode, but I always imagined it'd be something like, the Legionnaires preview, or Brainiac again, or something different, but NEVER in my life I would have imagined they'd show us Lex was watching everything!! Cause it was Lex, right? He was bald and stiched up, with tubes going in and out, but LEX nonetheless!

Imzadia
11-21-2008, 12:45 AM
What a great episode! Gave it a 10. Where can I start?
***Thank God, Clark has grown up. Was very worried about the return of Lana, but that went okay. No more high school whining and pining.

***Lois and Clark, excellent again. I really like what they are doing with this relationship. No infatuation here like with Lana. This looks like the beginning of real love.

***Doomsday--a realy scary villain. Shades of John Milton and Paradise Lost. The scene of Doomsday carrying Chloe into the Dark Fortress was a vision of hell. SV's take on the Doomsday character is great. The devolution of Davis Bloome into this horrendous figure is fascinating. And the Braniac connection makes it all the more interesting.

***Chloe. Chloe. Chloe. Aren't you gald she's back this year. Looks beautiful and the final shot of her looking longingly, lustfully at Doomsday in the Dark Fortress was just a chilling shot.

Finally, its wonderful to see that the hiatus won't be long at all. Hurry up Januaary 15!
The first half of this season has been spectacular. Surely the execs at CW can recognize quality television. Let's give this revamped, renewed show a bigger budget and a new season.

:cool: Thanks, 'Monel49', for the words I'd like to use. :\ So, DITTO!! I'm usually speechless on the nights that new episodes air. Tonight, my heart was racing ...again! There were times when I found myself holding my breath! :eek: It was Great storytelling, IMO. I Loved it, so I rated it a 10. :D I'm so proud that our Smallville Enthusiasm caused the servers to Overload tonight. :p The CW should take notice of the BEST series in their Whole lineup. I'll be suffering withdrawal symptoms until January 15! I want More, More, More!! :lol:

malcrew
11-21-2008, 01:10 AM
Absolutely a 9.5 out of 10! I thought Clark should have checked in on Lois first at the hospital.

shawn316
11-21-2008, 01:11 AM
All this episode showed me that this show NEEDS to end after this season. Season 8 has renewed my faith in Smallville and the Superman mythos, and I was truly anticipating this episode. My reason for anticipation however, was that it would finally be the "tipping point" that pushes Clark towards Superman. But after watching this episode, I couldn't help but saying to myself "HERE WE GO AGAIN!?!" Instead what we end up with is two to three more complex subplot...something this show does not need at this point. The only bright spot I pulled out of this episode, was the Lois & Clark moments. The rest, just complicates a story that needs no complication.

cloisthelegendbegins
11-21-2008, 01:59 AM
9 out of 10 for me.

Almost an eight but thought the cast knocked it out of the park tonight so was generous! ;)

Loved the build with the humorous Lois the wedding planner at the start and was really pleased to see Lois and Jimmy getting along better. Bout time. Be nice to see that friendship building if Jimmy isn't in Star City until - you know - something like episode 19.

Chloe looked stunning - seriously GLOWED (the way a bride should) - and I was much more comfortable with the Chimmy than I have been up till now. Still not seeing the sparks so much but I'll wait and see what happens down the line. Not exactly a great start to married life for either of them, I'll cut them some slack. Loved the way Chloe was played as being happy for a while and the scene at the end when her eyes changed in the fortress? Eerie stuff! Really can't wait to see where this storyline goes... Will be miffed if the level of Brainiac influence to date is left ambiguous.

The Doomsday leap from blackouts to bags of body parts and transformation? Biiitttt quick for me but LOVED the transformation and the way Davis tried to warn the cop to run away very fast. Body parts in a bag - ick - but in a disgusting cos it needed to be way... Could have done with more of a fight at the wedding but I can wait so long as it's made up for in the finale. We're due on hell of a fight at some point or I'll feel cheated.

Olivers vendetta with the Luthors? Hmm. Not the same Green Arrow but I get it and I think it adds a new darker dimension that follows on from his brief identity crisis. SO GLAD he didn't actually murder someone. Could initially have slapped him for bringing Lana to the wedding - wasn't he listening to Clark when Clark said certain things could WAIT 24hrs?! Jeez. Loved him in the scene with Lois though and that we were shown that ship has sailed. Slight inconsistency with pimping the Clana and then the Clois but can give him the benefit of the doubt because he didn't know about the Clois when he brought Ninja-Lana back to the wedding.

The Clois. Oh where do I begin?! Erica was a-m-a-z-i-n-g in this episode. The range of emotions she went through was just heartbreaking. And the dance? Whoever did the lighting, chose the music and decided it should be dialogue free needs a SERIOUS pat on the back. The tension was palpable. LOVED IT. And the following scenes with Lois and Oliver and with Lois and Clark at the hospital - just seriously - LOVED IT. There aren't enough words to stress how much I will MISS LOIS until episode 15. As a fan it made that slow motion exit all the harder to watch!!!!!

The return of Lana. I've been DREADING THIS. But much to my surprise it didn't suck all the life out of the show and regress Clark anywhere near as much as I'd expected (not that it didn't regress him but I'm getting to that). Not completely lovin the whole sacrificial love/Lana being the one to say it's over and Clark not agreeing/Lana keeping secrets AGAIN/ Lana off running round the world to protect Clark like some kind of Ninja Guardian Angel and the fact she felt the need to TELL HIM to go do his thing when he shouldn't NEED TOLD to go his thing. But I didn't feel the need to scream at my TV set and throw things across the room. And that was a miracle unto itself. Don't think I'm not WATCHING HER CLOSELY though. I've been watching for the last seven seasons - I KNOW what can happen.

Clark. Still showing the maturity I love so much this season. Love that he stands up to Oliver, like that he still has a ways to go and he's still the reason I tune in every week. BUT in such a big episode I guess I just expected more from him. When it started to go wrong for me, funnily enough, was the arrival of Lana. I guess it was meant that way but if I've got another four episodes of this coming my way I'll be... unhappy... His feelings for Lois are still ambiguous. That's probably intentional too so I get it. His relationship with Lana is unresolved. Yep. I get it. Understandable after seven years of heartache and melodrama. But he was less than an inch away from a lip-lock with Lois and when Lana arrives he doesn't so much as look back at Lois for a split second??? Not only unacceptable but unbelievable at this stage of his progression! I don't care who he was about to kiss, the fact is he WAS about to kiss her and then until he sees her in the hospital she doesn't EXIST??? It's NOT the behavior of the hero of the show and why in god's name would any woman want to stick around to be treated that way? It bothered me. And it's EXACTLY how he treated Chloe when she put her feelings for him on the line in early seasons. The second Lana appears, the person with feelings for him is casually dismissed. Literally without so much as a backward glance in this case. They just told us that Lana is the center of the Smallville universe again - and frankly - I'm sick of it. THAT'S what makes me dislike Lana. Not just the way she's been written good then bad then good then bad then tragic then heroic then heartbroken then vengeful etc etc etc and BELIEVE ME that's bad enough on it's own and KK has done well to wade her way through the constant inconsistencies. It's the fact that there seems to be this almost goddess-like worship of her by the show-runners. They need to try and remember she LEFT the show. She's here making a GUEST APPEARANCE. And in the space of a handful of scenes they had HER telling Clark 'maybe' they weren't meant to be and making it out that he would never have stepped up the way he has if it wasn't for her. Initial reaction: thank the lord for Lana or we would never have had heroic Clark. SIGH. Every single time she seems to be put on the show to remove a chunk of Clark's spine. EVERY SINGLE TIME. And after the sacrificial love speech he ignored all the injured people and called out for her first and had to be TOLD to go away and fight the bad guy and then SHE had to RESCUE HIM from that trusty plot device known as a lump of green rock. Now again I know why the green rock was used - can't have a huge Doomsday/Clark fight on the first run out but honestly? The Kryptonite plot device is OLD and OVER-USED. And then in the hospital we have Lana TELLING CLARK he has to go. If I have to watch three episodes of this kind of thing after Legion I will have a bleeding STOMACH ULCER. I'm not blaming Lana for this - miraculously again - this time I'm blaming Clark. And by default I'm blaming the way Clark was WRITTEN. He has been pro-active and mature throughout the season and with the return of Lana everything I've hated most in the past was shown all over again. He was RE-ACTIVE not PRO-ACTIVE and I hate it when he does that - season seven was ENOUGH. I was left with the distinct feeling Lana will always be the one that got away. And that's a SERIOUS PROBLEM. Cos if that's the way it's gonna be written and considering Lois' feeling were COMPLETELY DISREGARDED until Clark saw her in the hospital hallway I don't want him ANYWHERE NEAR Lois Lane. Because going by tonights episode he doesn't deserve her. He's not ready for her. And she's worth WAY MORE THAN THAT in exactly the same way that Chloe was for all those years she had feelings for him. It's called RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS Clark. Do unto others and all that... You're not a teenager any more.

But seeing as Clark showed signs of being determined to find Chloe (even if he was damn well TOLD TO GO FIND HER by Lana) and since that last slow motion scene with Lois was played so well, right now, and considering what a great job has been done up until Bride (despite the dubious secret-removal decision), I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I love mature Clark. I don't want to feel differently. Tonight he had me until Lana arrived. He wasn't as woefully angst-ridden as past seasons, so he hasn't lost me, but he DID regress. I'm now pinning my hopes on Legion so I can forgive him. I KNOW she was the love of his teenage life but he's a GROWN UP now. Open your eyes Clark and let it the hell go! And when Lois comes back, decide how the hell you feel, let us SEE IT and go after her. I hope she makes him work for it frankly.

This turned out longer than I planned. But on the whole AMAZING EPISODE with plenty to make me cross off the days on my calender until January. Just short of perfect for me because of minor Clark regression and the lack of Doomsday bloodbath and the Doomsday/Chloe love - just not completely sold on that. Frankly I think some of the arcs in Bride could have been built up in Abyss, which was slow in places and could have been better for the addition of the GA/Lex/Lana storyline in Cuba or a better glimpse of Davis' slide into the collection of body part take-out.

BlueKryptoKalEl
11-21-2008, 02:54 AM
Hmm... what can I say. I loved the first several seasons of the show... then I kinda fell off. I am an avid reader of the comics. So when I learned they had an actual "Chloe" character I was not happy. But after a while she grew on me.

Now I am actually unhappy they removed her knowledge of Clark's powers.

I felt this episode was excellent! Doomsday! Wow... I don't have many words to say how pleased I was with the way he looked! Almost the perfect comic version! I am also counting the days till New Episodes!

My one question is, if you all pick it apart so much, and have such distaste towards the show, why watch it? "I gave it a 2.5" Yes we all know about, "Lois and Clark" Smallvile is all about Clarks beginnings, not his present or future. You want to complain, go talk about "Superman Returns" There's something to complain about. Enjoy the last few seasons of the show. We all know there are not many left!

To the fans, I agree with all of you, I'm excited!! :D

harryandginnyfanatic
11-21-2008, 03:20 AM
I felt bad for the "ring that bell guy".

He gets no love. Awwww.

vyperman7
11-21-2008, 04:02 AM
Not as good as I was hoping for. Although it is my own fault for buying into the hype.

First of all, Doomsday was a letdown. I liked how they showed Davis transforming. However, not enough happened at the wedding, and when you see the CGI/make up up close, it doesn't look that spectacular. It looked different in the previews. I also thought the pacing of the episode was rather slow and I didn't like the tease at the beginning and then reverting back to "eight hours earlier". I would have prefered just to have the episode open where it started when it came back from break. They could have shown more of Davis through out the episode and really built up tension with Doomsday more.

Now onto the things I liked. I LOVED the Clois in this. Seeing Lois come to the realization that she feels something for Clark was great, and the same goes for Clark. We finally get sexual tension between them. Damn Lana for breaking up the kiss..LOL Although I knew it was going to happen. Speaking of Lana, I actually liked her in this episode. The tougher veneer and platonic attitude towards Clark was good. The ending with Lex was awesome. It gives me hope that we will get Michael Rosenbaum back for at least one episode. Otherwise why show Lex?

I would probably give it a 7/10. Definitely not as good as it could have been.

ColdPlay3r
11-21-2008, 04:13 AM
meh :)

9/10

its gunna be a long wait

Super Maverick
11-21-2008, 04:31 AM
one of the bet ever tonight!!!

jobookjunkie
11-21-2008, 04:33 AM
*weeps* Well, did everyone enjoy that then? I woke up at 12.58am my time i.e.7.58 pm eastern time, and I swear I heard a faint 'eeeeeee!!' coming from somewhere. *sob**sob* my poor heart is broken into a million little pieces *sob* And I'm all outta Clois cookies *wail*

*hic* When I can string a coherent sentence together, had a strong cup of tea and read Cedric's wise words to lift me out of this pit of depression, I will post my review *sob*

*sob**sniff**blows nose*

Mickey_Bickey
11-21-2008, 04:38 AM
I gave the show a 9. If Lois and Clark actually kissed, and Clark didn't get marooned by kryptonite during the fight with Doomsday then I would have given it a 10. I was on the edge of my seat both when Doomsday attacked and when Clark and Lois were about to kiss!

I was so pissed though when Lana showed up!! I agree that Clark needs to get over Lana once and for all to move ahead with Lois.

I loved the end scene when Lois is walking away to "Don't take your love away" by Vast. It was great, because for the first time you see Clark watching Lois as she leaves. Lois was the epidemy of class and dignity!

How about Chloe smiling at Doomsday?? OMG! And Lex!!!!!!!:eek:

----- Added 12 Minutes later -----


9 out of 10 for me.

Almost an eight but thought the cast knocked it out of the park tonight so was generous! ;)

Loved the build with the humorous Lois the wedding planner at the start and was really pleased to see Lois and Jimmy getting along better. Bout time. Be nice to see that friendship building if Jimmy isn't in Star City until - you know - something like episode 19.

Chloe looked stunning - seriously GLOWED (the way a bride should) - and I was much more comfortable with the Chimmy than I have been up till now. Still not seeing the sparks so much but I'll wait and see what happens down the line. Not exactly a great start to married life for either of them, I'll cut them some slack. Loved the way Chloe was played as being happy for a while and the scene at the end when her eyes changed in the fortress? Eerie stuff! Really can't wait to see where this storyline goes... Will be miffed if the level of Brainiac influence to date is left ambiguous.

The Doomsday leap from blackouts to bags of body parts and transformation? Biiitttt quick for me but LOVED the transformation and the way Davis tried to warn the cop to run away very fast. Body parts in a bag - ick - but in a disgusting cos it needed to be way... Could have done with more of a fight at the wedding but I can wait so long as it's made up for in the finale. We're due on hell of a fight at some point or I'll feel cheated.

Olivers vendetta with the Luthors? Hmm. Not the same Green Arrow but I get it and I think it adds a new darker dimension that follows on from his brief identity crisis. SO GLAD he didn't actually murder someone. Could initially have slapped him for bringing Lana to the wedding - wasn't he listening to Clark when Clark said certain things could WAIT 24hrs?! Jeez. Loved him in the scene with Lois though and that we were shown that ship has sailed. Slight inconsistency with pimping the Clana and then the Clois but can give him the benefit of the doubt because he didn't know about the Clois when he brought Ninja-Lana back to the wedding.

The Clois. Oh where do I begin?! Erica was a-m-a-z-i-n-g in this episode. The range of emotions she went through was just heartbreaking. And the dance? Whoever did the lighting, chose the music and decided it should be dialogue free needs a SERIOUS pat on the back. The tension was palpable. LOVED IT. And the following scenes with Lois and Oliver and with Lois and Clark at the hospital - just seriously - LOVED IT. There aren't enough words to stress how much I will MISS LOIS until episode 15. As a fan it made that slow motion exit all the harder to watch!!!!!

The return of Lana. I've been DREADING THIS. But much to my surprise it didn't suck all the life out of the show and regress Clark anywhere near as much as I'd expected (not that it didn't regress him but I'm getting to that). Not completely lovin the whole sacrificial love/Lana being the one to say it's over and Clark not agreeing/Lana keeping secrets AGAIN/ Lana off running round the world to protect Clark like some kind of Ninja Guardian Angel and the fact she felt the need to TELL HIM to go do his thing when he shouldn't NEED TOLD to go his thing. But I didn't feel the need to scream at my TV set and throw things across the room. And that was a miracle unto itself. Don't think I'm not WATCHING HER CLOSELY though. I've been watching for the last seven seasons - I KNOW what can happen.

Clark. Still showing the maturity I love so much this season. Love that he stands up to Oliver, like that he still has a ways to go and he's still the reason I tune in every week. BUT in such a big episode I guess I just expected more from him. When it started to go wrong for me, funnily enough, was the arrival of Lana. I guess it was meant that way but if I've got another four episodes of this coming my way I'll be... unhappy... His feelings for Lois are still ambiguous. That's probably intentional too so I get it. His relationship with Lana is unresolved. Yep. I get it. Understandable after seven years of heartache and melodrama. But he was less than an inch away from a lip-lock with Lois and when Lana arrives he doesn't so much as look back at Lois for a split second??? Not only unacceptable but unbelievable at this stage of his progression! I don't care who he was about to kiss, the fact is he WAS about to kiss her and then until he sees her in the hospital she doesn't EXIST??? It's NOT the behavior of the hero of the show and why in god's name would any woman want to stick around to be treated that way? It bothered me. And it's EXACTLY how he treated Chloe when she put her feelings for him on the line in early seasons. The second Lana appears, the person with feelings for him is casually dismissed. Literally without so much as a backward glance in this case. They just told us that Lana is the center of the Smallville universe again - and frankly - I'm sick of it. THAT'S what makes me dislike Lana. Not just the way she's been written good then bad then good then bad then tragic then heroic then heartbroken then vengeful etc etc etc and BELIEVE ME that's bad enough on it's own and KK has done well to wade her way through the constant inconsistencies. It's the fact that there seems to be this almost goddess-like worship of her by the show-runners. They need to try and remember she LEFT the show. She's here making a GUEST APPEARANCE. And in the space of a handful of scenes they had HER telling Clark 'maybe' they weren't meant to be and making it out that he would never have stepped up the way he has if it wasn't for her. Initial reaction: thank the lord for Lana or we would never have had heroic Clark. SIGH. Every single time she seems to be put on the show to remove a chunk of Clark's spine. EVERY SINGLE TIME. And after the sacrificial love speech he ignored all the injured people and called out for her first and had to be TOLD to go away and fight the bad guy and then SHE had to RESCUE HIM from that trusty plot device known as a lump of green rock. Now again I know why the green rock was used - can't have a huge Doomsday/Clark fight on the first run out but honestly? The Kryptonite plot device is OLD and OVER-USED. And then in the hospital we have Lana TELLING CLARK he has to go. If I have to watch three episodes of this kind of thing after Legion I will have a bleeding STOMACH ULCER. I'm not blaming Lana for this - miraculously again - this time I'm blaming Clark. And by default I'm blaming the way Clark was WRITTEN. He has been pro-active and mature throughout the season and with the return of Lana everything I've hated most in the past was shown all over again. He was RE-ACTIVE not PRO-ACTIVE and I hate it when he does that - season seven was ENOUGH. I was left with the distinct feeling Lana will always be the one that got away. And that's a SERIOUS PROBLEM. Cos if that's the way it's gonna be written and considering Lois' feeling were COMPLETELY DISREGARDED until Clark saw her in the hospital hallway I don't want him ANYWHERE NEAR Lois Lane. Because going by tonights episode he doesn't deserve her. He's not ready for her. And she's worth WAY MORE THAN THAT in exactly the same way that Chloe was for all those years she had feelings for him. It's called RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS Clark. Do unto others and all that... You're not a teenager any more.

But seeing as Clark showed signs of being determined to find Chloe (even if he was damn well TOLD TO GO FIND HER by Lana) and since that last slow motion scene with Lois was played so well, right now, and considering what a great job has been done up until Bride (despite the dubious secret-removal decision), I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I love mature Clark. I don't want to feel differently. Tonight he had me until Lana arrived. He wasn't as woefully angst-ridden as past seasons, so he hasn't lost me, but he DID regress. I'm now pinning my hopes on Legion so I can forgive him. I KNOW she was the love of his teenage life but he's a GROWN UP now. Open your eyes Clark and let it the hell go! And when Lois comes back, decide how the hell you feel, let us SEE IT and go after her. I hope she makes him work for it frankly.

This turned out longer than I planned. But on the whole AMAZING EPISODE with plenty to make me cross off the days on my calender until January. Just short of perfect for me because of minor Clark regression and the lack of Doomsday bloodbath and the Doomsday/Chloe love - just not completely sold on that. Frankly I think some of the arcs in Bride could have been built up in Abyss, which was slow in places and could have been better for the addition of the GA/Lex/Lana storyline in Cuba or a better glimpse of Davis' slide into the collection of body part take-out.


I can't agree with you more on how Clark doesn't even glance at Lois!!! I mean he breaks the hold with Maxima in the elevator, but he can't even look back at Lois when Lana was there!!! Come on!! He didn't even mention her at all in the aftermath! I mean she's in the final scene with him, but he acted like it was just another conversation and nothing happened between them! I was disappointed in that, which made me so much happier when she walked away the way she did!!;)

I did like how there was no dialogue between them. That was well done.

Bane
11-21-2008, 04:53 AM
Episode was perfect...the romance was great, and the scene with Doomsday was everything I thought it would be. He showed up, caused some carnage, smacked Clark around, and left. It was absolutely perfect...and a work of art. This episode gets a 10 from me.

BIGBLUE1
11-21-2008, 05:22 AM
11 out of 10 thats what i rate it .. thisepisode was awesome.from beging to end it was great started with the camera view of the party that was pretty dope ..... but i first must say

i told you sooooooo... ( well i know alot of people don't follow what other people say or remember but all in all i made predictions based of the credis and previous spoiler and i was prett much right with the clark and los kiss.

but lets go from the begining.
the opening scene was awesome it gave you a different perspective of smallville cause mostly there just face shot with the back of the other persons head in front of the camera. shows like that are fun cause they let you fillin allt he blanks of what happened in between time. i liked how they usedthe camera for ascene transition.
the scene with lois barking orders geting things in order for the wedding was funny i saw a lttle bit in the preview clips they released on the web but it was cool. did anybody else notice that the guy holding the camera could have been jimmy's twin brother just throw a bow tie on him and we got ourselves another jimmy olsen.

RedKRules
11-21-2008, 05:23 AM
I gave it 1, because this episode was never about the Bride, anyway the only scenes I enjoyed were the Doom ones!

LiLViLLiaN
11-21-2008, 05:27 AM
I am giving this episode a 8 for the moment because I was being rudely distracted during it so I didn't get to be emotionally attached as well! Sigh.

But, it was an awesome episode!

All I have to say is goooo Cloissss! ;)

ED was excellent in this eppy, she really showed true emotions.

And best of all Clark is realizing his feelings for Lois as well.

Doomsday was awesome! And when he hit Clark...ouch.

Lana had a good return...mad she barged in right when we were going to have the KISS. Although I have never been a Clana shipper, she did well.

Oliver and Lois scene was very touching.


EEK! I cannot wait until Jan. 15th! [During the previews It shows Clark landing as if he dropped...or landing from flying...hmmm. =) ]

JDS2930
11-21-2008, 05:39 AM
I thought this was an alright episode. Good effects w/ Doomsday. I agree w/ some comments that we can see Doomsday but we can't get the the super-suit or flight from Clark? It was good to see Lana in a more mature role, over the whole Clark thing and moving on. I liked her new hairdo. I really, really liked her calling out Clark on not fully restoring Chloe's memory. I was hoping for that. I hope that's foreshadowing a return of her memory. I couldn't tell if that was Lex at the end or a new body for Braniac. If it's Lex, then this definitely poses a whole new slew of questions and possibilities. I also agree w/ some comments about enough already w/ the foreshadowing of "Lois & Clark." Yes, writers and producers - we know it and get it that they're meant to be! Please stop beating us over the head with it...LOL.

Rosa76
11-21-2008, 05:39 AM
:eek:I gave it a 10 !!I loved it !!I can't wait till Jan 15th !!:p

quietone
11-21-2008, 05:40 AM
This was better than I was expecting. I was totally steeling myself for a Chimmy schmaltz fest and I was so glad the show avoided that for the most part.

Best parts:
Doomsday
Clois - I thought their interaction was well handled and I liked Clark taking the initiative and pulling Lois onto the dance floor. I'm a total non-shipper and even I tensed up during the almost kiss.
Clark - My favorite Clark moments were his talk with Ollie that included a reference to Vengeance and dancing with Lois.
Lois - I liked that she verbalized her feelings to Ollie. We normally don't see Lois show her vulnerability.
Ollie - Even though I hated that Ollie still has it in for Lex because of Lionel's role in his parents' deaths I understood where Ollie was coming from. I'm glad tptb hadn't forgotten about that angle. I also liked his being there for Lois and knowing immediately that she was talking about Clark.

Best line of the night goes to Lois for her 'sticks up straight and slides right in' lesson regarding the cuff links. That has to be the dirtiest line I've heard on this show :)

skylar
11-21-2008, 06:09 AM
It was a good episode but their were somthing that rubbed me the wrong. Jimmy getting hurt on his wedding day Lois going with Jimmy to star city and the Clark and Lois thing. Lana look pretty and she came back more mature finally. Overall I'll give it a 8.5

aussiegirl63
11-21-2008, 06:14 AM
Great Show. Chloe Looked Beautiful And The Barn Was Amazing With All The Fall Colours. Lois's Dressing Was Gorgeous Looked Great On Her. The Sence Between Clark And Lois Dancing Was Wonderful And As Always Something Happens - Lana Walked In And No Kiss. Glad To See Lana Back But Glad That The Lana/clark Romance Is Over. Clark Needs To Move On. Doomsday Scarey. Love This Show 10 Out 10.:):)

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


This was better than I was expecting. I was totally steeling myself for a Chimmy schmaltz fest and I was so glad the show avoided that for the most part.

Best parts:
Doomsday
Clois - I thought their interaction was well handled and I liked Clark taking the initiative and pulling Lois onto the dance floor. I'm a total non-shipper and even I tensed up during the almost kiss.
Clark - My favorite Clark moments were his talk with Ollie that included a reference to Vengeance and dancing with Lois.
Lois - I liked that she verbalized her feelings to Ollie. We normally don't see Lois show her vulnerability.
Ollie - Even though I hated that Ollie still has it in for Lex because of Lionel's role in his parents' deaths I understood where Ollie was coming from. I'm glad tptb hadn't forgotten about that angle. I also liked his being there for Lois and knowing immediately that she was talking about Clark.

Best line of the night goes to Lois for her 'sticks up straight and slides right in' lesson regarding the cuff links. That has to be the dirtiest line I've heard on this show :)

LOVE THAT LINE TO

Carolina87
11-21-2008, 06:17 AM
I gave this episode a 10/10.

I sincerely enjoyed almost every scene. Chloe looked beautiful and as always AM's acting is top notch. The Chimmy has never bothered me so i also enjoyed their scenes. Ollie wasn't my fav in this episode due to his shadyness with Clark. Doomsday was good not great but I know it will turn into something great by the end of the season.
I'm surprised to see how well lana's character was handled in this episode; her lines where those of a mature, moving forward individual and not of the typical whining drama lana. I will admit that i overreacted when she interrupted the "kiss" but i'm starting to realize it was for the best.
I wasn't too happy with Clark for reasons already stated by many before me..... I find it unacceptable that he didn't show any concern for Lois during the whole Doomsdays disaster; maybe that wouldn't have been a big deal for me if he had said something after their "almost kiss" was interrupted.
As Annie mentioned above not even a backward glance at Lois???? Come on, we have Lois who is head over heels for Clark *when in reality it should be Clark who drools over her* and he doesn't even bother to show any emotion/feelings for her? I'm not expecting a him to go all Googaly Eyes for her but please show some concern for Lois!!
The hospital scene between them might have made me feel a little better if only Clark didn't seem once again completely unfazed by Lois's well being.
Lois on the other hand was amazing she was full of emotion and confusion over her feelings for Clark and ED's acting was that of a true professional. She made this episode a 10/10 for me.
In all honestly I was looking forward to this episode because of the possibility of some great Clark and Lois development. I saw a lot of Lois and not much by Clark but i'm holding on for future episodes to see how the writers turn around Clarks attraction for Lois into the Iconic Love that we all know he feels for her.

BIGBLUE1
11-21-2008, 06:21 AM
11 out of 10 thats what i rate it .. this episode was awesome.from beginning to end it was great started with the camera view of the party that was pretty dope ..... but i first must say

i told you sooooooo... ( well i know alot of people don't follow what other people say or remember what is said on this forum but all in all i made predictions based of the credits and previous spoilers and i was pretty much right with the clark and lois kiss.

but lets go from the beginning.
the opening scene was awesome it gave you a different perspective of smallville cause mostly there are just face shots with the back of the other persons head in front of the camera. shows like this one are fun cause they let you fill in all the blanks of what happened in between time. kinda liek promise was. i liked how they used the camera for a scene transition aswell.
the scene with lois barking orders getting things in order for the wedding was funny i saw a lttle bit in the preview clips they released on the web but it was cool. did anybody else notice that the guy holding the camera could have been jimmy's twin brother just throw a bow tie on him and we got ourselves another jimmy olsen.

wow when jimmy walked into the talon apartment i had now idea how sexy chloe was in a night-gown .. and im a legs man and it made me jaw-drop and burned a memory in my hed i will never forget. jimmy's nervousness was a little weird but i also thought that Chloe mentioning certain things that they went through in there relationship... well alot of those thing were clark-related but i guess well never know now.

the 1st clark and lois scene man-o-man what a scene. i quote " first you gotta get it up straight and then slide it in" i did not catch that until lois made her face of omg i can't believe i just said that.. lol i was cracking up laughing throught he whole setof commercials. she is so beautiful and the orange dres was top notch.

ok now on to mister bloome. wow what a scene i saw the preview clip of the bloody bags that was sooo awesome and dark... then when the cop showed up we got to see those devestating knuckles that have been seen before tearing supermans cape. then the blood sooo awesome.

oliver and clark man o man they always seem to have lovers spats... but i don't necassrily like the fact that the writers had him shoot that dummy in the head i mean come on he really would have killed lex if it was him superheros don't kill .. even if there going through some tough times... but i do remeber season 6 but that was becasue oliver was using that serium. but really thats not the green arrow and lana said it best.. i will get to lana later.

the dancing scene with chloe and clark was nice it put clarks assurance that what he did for chloe was in her best benefit. it was a little short of a dance but oh well im not a chlark fan.
then clark dance with lois man- thats all i got to say i believed every emotion in lois eye's that episode she was sooo beautiful i couldn't take my eyes off of her. and this is were i will say again i told you so i knew lana was going to interupt there kiss ...trust me i wanted it to happen as bad as alot of you but erica durance said it best in her interview i saw on another website she said "The more selfless Lois is with her love for Clark, the more she'll deserve him." an i believe that so much we all know they are destined to be together and is all about the story that leads up to it. to bad we can't get 7 seaon of that instead we got lana.. that biznatch.

this paragraph is all about lana so if your a lana fan skip it. i hate that woman she is so devious i can't stand her anymore. she to me is a villian. season 7 was the time were she really changed her self i know lex was mostly because of it but really after season 6 she had the chance to change and the cahracter did not do that in season 7. i know these are fictional characters but really damn it i wish i could just put her in her place. regardless i know shes up to something this time around and i know that in requiem she goin togget bit in her ass by it. that line about how lana lang and clark kent are not meant to be with each other was awesome and sooooooooooooo true that text message to me proved that she is not who she says she is. i know that that text messge came from lex i just know it. im going to skip over a couple scenes just to prove my point. she was the only one at the wedding that could have gotten her hands on the video tape that we saw a severally injured lex watching at the end of the episode... the camera guy got killed.. everyone else was in the hospital there no one else that could have gotten him that video ... but i might be proven wrong in episodes to come damn lana and her crinkly nose. i just want clark to realize it already!!!!! ok i had to get that all out

the oliver lois scene was cute oliver seemed to be back to his old self again i guess maybe the close encounter with almost killing someone kinda got him back on the line. he is only human after all... but how he knew it was clark that lois was talking about was cute to i guess its more obvious then people think

now the scene were clark noticed the noise was awesome doomsday must do like a hulk jump he doesn't fly so im pretty sure thats why everything was shaking. when he crashed the party i got so excitied and wow can i say that whoever did his costume kudos to you cause that didn't look fake what so ever. he messed up lana good . which i was more then less happy about. he also messed up jimmy which i thought was cool we got to see blood splatter all over the camera... dope... felt like i was really there. then clark getting thrown across the barn was dope aswell.. only to get himself close to krptonite. damn it i wanted to see the batle royal. the only thing i really did not like that someone had started a thread about was that dd spoke and said chloe i mean it was really crazy sounding but still he spoke .. i don't hate it i guess in smallville's version dd is disguised as human so he probably does have speaking capabilites

then the ending scene the hospital was awesome lois walking in on clark and lana was nice then the hallway scene man i love erica durance and her acting. she is so good. and when she turned to walk away from clark man i almost spat a tear.. almost...
i was wrong on one aspect i guessed that the only scenes we got to see dd in were the barn wedding crashing well i was wrong there. when he caried chloe throught the fortress. man my real question is did he do that on his own or was he commanded to do so cause we saw the fortress go black last week and we knew it was brainiac and kinda got the hint tht brainiac did it for dd, but we never saw anything about dd getting chloe for brainiac instead of davis liking chloe and he wanted her so he took her. so i liked to see that transition play out did he kidnap chloe for himself or for brainiac.
i know that when he laid her down she opened her eyes and smiled but of course thats because she brianiac infected again. which i thought was cool but does that mean she knows clarks secret again cause we'll shes got brainiac in her or will she just be completely brainiac??? dun dun dun last time we saw brianiac use a human host to make himself hole again the host died (offscreenville lana and bizarro were taking care of her). then the end scene with lex he is alive but it doesn't look like he can do very much. maybe the lana that we see now isn't really the real lana and its one of lexs clones of her doing his dirty work. i do remember that upcoming episodes that the scientist from project aries comes back so well see how that plays out cause if this lana does end up being a clone i will take back all the nasty things i thought about lana in this episoe . all in all this is one of the best episode in smallville history and i can't wait for legion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SgtTechCom
11-21-2008, 06:22 AM
Ok Doomsday looked great for what a Tv Show can do. Im sure if it was a movie a lil more CGI would have done wonders but not bad.

The Ending?
Doomsday took Chloe to the Fortress and picked up the Brainiac essense that was left behind - Watch Last Episode "Abysse" Her eyes got all weird they turned black Brainiac is back inside her. Thats why she smiled and was thrilled to see Doomsday she only remembered Davis and this was the only way they could be together. So Thats that.

Of course the Bald guy plugged into everything is Lex. It's so fitting he's becoming a super criminal and out to Destroy Clark/Superman and will do what it takes to get what he wants.

I can't wait for Jan - There's some real good episodes coming up. I thought in the preview i saw clark landing on a balcony hmm maybe he finally gets to learn to fly.

Exciting.

clanaluva4Life
11-21-2008, 06:30 AM
Lana Rocks!!!!!!!!! Lois a little Cry baby sooooooo Pathetic thank God she's going for a while!!!!! An what the hell was that at the End?? Lex? naa i doubt!!!!!!

jimmyolsenblues
11-21-2008, 06:45 AM
every scene with doomsday = 10
every scene without doomsday = 6

i liked the clois scenes...i was so mad there was no fight between clark/doom :(

stenochick
11-21-2008, 07:09 AM
POSTERS: CK&CK and topping82,

I can appreciate your dissapointment with the way the show has been going lately. I can even appreciate the criticisms. However, to bash the show the way you have on a fan based website is (in the eyes of a TRUE fan) naieve, iggnorant, and unacceptable. It's been clear from day 1 that Smallville would carve it's own notch in the Superman lore and how it plays out. So as a regular viewer, you except these things and enjoy the show. Also, if your criticism list is as detailed and pissy-long as you'res was; you just don't watch the show. Go follow the mainstream and watch survivor or some crap like that. It's also been stated that "they" don't know if they'll get a ninth season, so naturally the show storylines are gonna move along quite a bit faster. Again, as a fan you either except it and enjoy it, or change the station and watch something else. This is all just common sense. Honestly, I don't mind criticsm, but to read it at the extent you both bashed it at with such ignorance of how the show is being run now seemed a bit much to swallow.

I just ignore the super-negative posts.

trh1976
11-21-2008, 07:12 AM
Wow! I was very impressed with this episode. Overall its a 9 out of 10 and thats marginally due to the fact that they brought the tired horse Lana back to the show. Please, please, please, let this piece of the show go. It had little to do with the show other than the mysterious text message she got and her unintentional (maybe) interference with Clark and Lois.

I

stenochick
11-21-2008, 07:14 AM
I give every episode a 10 unless I did not like it at all.

I loved the Clois dance scene and I loved the slow motion montage at the end with that song playing in the background. I really like that song.

loistickyfingerz
11-21-2008, 07:17 AM
WOW!!! That was freakin amazing! The "monster" changing scenes and the monster stuff was absolutely fantastic!

Not to mention the CLOIS! It was great. I can honestly say that was the first time I ever really believed that Clark actually is beginning to have feelings for Lois. And it was GLORIOUS!

The ending was great too. Taking Chloe to the fortress of doom? Having her wake up and smile at him. What a cliffhanger.

The naked guy with wires? Hummm, on the fence about that. I guess it was supposed to be Lex and it's nice they are implying he really is still out there since they talk about it all the time, but no MR makes it weak to me. I'll wait and see.

Lana being back was wack but not as bad as it could have been. I know she and Clark have to hash out their last feelings, but at least there is a real triangle again, with LOIS and Clark involved. It's as it should be.

The worst part of was finding out there will be no more until January. The silver lining is the promise of really good episodes upon return and no mid-holiday fillers. Take a good long break and then come back with lots of new episodes that are GOOD and purposeful.

This was the first true 10 of the whole season in my opinion! Smallville rocks!

shamville
11-21-2008, 07:44 AM
Clark should follow doomsday. To the fos and they could have show down. He at hospital were is davis at? He could put two and two together said davis is the monster went to the fos.

LoveHurts38
11-21-2008, 07:55 AM
I gave a 9...very good ending for Clois...the slow motion and clark must saw walls building up when Lois walked away.

melissan02
11-21-2008, 08:01 AM
WITH ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT OF COURSE!;)

The way the show moved from beginning to end was great!
I like moving through the whole wedding day after we get a spooky opening scene on video camera!

Lois and Clark was very, very good. Not great (because there was no kiss), but good.
* I didn't like:mad: that Clark didn't ask Lois to dance, instead, he just grabbed her arm as she was about to go sit down.
* Didn't care for the sultry sounding saxophone tune they danced to either!! :mad: I would have made it something more melodic and subtle!!
* Lois made herself vulnerable on the dance floor though...which concerns me.:( I think she
initiated things when she placed her hand on Clark's chest. Yes, he moved in too, but Lois' feelings are obvious now.

Lana and Clark...well, she's certainly back to her old self!! :rolleyes:
* She wasn't that bad...just lying and keeping things from Clark and others. Who WAS she texting? :confused:Hum...very interesting.
* The GOOD thing...I figured Lana would try to make it clear to Clark that it's important to MOVE ON!!
* She was brilliant when she said..."Lana and Clark just weren't meant to be." ;) Truer words were never spoken!!!!!!!
* She'll give Clark a dose of reality while she's around...she's not interested in starting something w/ him. Lana has DARKER motives right now.:mad:

* Doomsday and Chloe/Brainiac was creepy!! Those eyes!!

* Loved the foreshadowing of Jimmy and Chloe in the apartment at the beginning. So many references to bad luck etc. etc. Felt sorry for them:(...especially Jimmy...he really does love her!---AND CHLOE LOVES HIM!!

Bane
11-21-2008, 08:04 AM
I thought Lana was perfect in this episode...she didn't say anything bad or act annoying. Not that I've ever disliked Lana in the first place.

Iluvgreen
11-21-2008, 08:06 AM
It was 10000 out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

geminis
11-21-2008, 08:24 AM
Cedric, I'm waiting for your masterpiece...

Annie, I agree with you wholeheartedly about Clark. Now we know why Erica said what she did; she and Lois know that Lois is worth the wait and obviously Clark doesn't. Aaaaaargh! That, and the fact that we have to wait until January for Clark and not until February for crying out loud for Lois is the reason I gave this episode a 9. Lois and Clark's dance: no words. Clark, you had better be thinking really really hard about Lois, you finally seemed to get the clue as she was walking away.

Surprisingly Lana was not that bad for me. I think part of the reason is because I know she WILL be gone for good AND that Clana will finally be dead and buried. Also, Lana said she and Clark were never meant to be, and Clark also verbalized it. I don't like necessarily how he said it, but the words were spoken out loud. YAY!

Oliver, slightly shady with Clark and heartbreakingly cute and understanding with Lois. He must know that Clark is not treating Lois with the respect she deserves. His vendetta with the Luthor family is imho fitting for his character. Oliver has morals but I believe he also has a reputation for not necessarily playing by all of the rules.

Chloe: heartstoppingly beautiful and cute and creepy all in one episode. And her line to Lois about Lois' superdude: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Doomsday: Davis was good and the first parts of the transformation good as well. The end scene CGI, not so much. We finally get to see some shadowy glimpses of the bony spurred monster that has been causing the little hullaballoo and I feel slightly let down. The reveal is sometimes never quite as good as the imagination but I was expecting it.

Jimmy: still rooting for Clois and standing up for Chloe despite the fact that he knows he can do nothing. I don't care what other people say, I love him.

Lex????!!! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Lois: heartbreakingly beautiful and innocently dirty and cute and sexy and funny and forlorn. Hello, earth to Clark! Despite her doubts about Chloe and Jimmy, yet again she proves that she is loyal to family. I love you Lois for going to Star City with Jimmy, since you are now family, but why oh why do you have to wait until February to come back?! I hope that while you are gone Clark is thinking about you like he did as you walked away and that you come back reinvigorated having published lots of articles in the Planet as a Star City correspondent and hot on the trail of the red and blue blur.

I feel like I've forgotten something and I'm sure I have. Oh well.

The trailer for next year: OMG! I wish it were next year already.

stenochick
11-21-2008, 08:31 AM
I find when I don't like something, I have paragraphs to write about it. But when I love an episode, I find that I don't have much to say other than, "Wow! A 10!"

Last night was another example of the fact that Tom Welling does his best acting sans words. That scene with him taking Lois' hand and leading her to the dance floor and then going in for the kiss was so amazing. I love how Clark acts with such deliberateness now. It is a sight to behold.

I love the buzz around here! This place is still busy and the episode aired 15 hours ago!

Get to work people before your boss looks over your shoulder at your computer screen!

melissan02
11-21-2008, 08:34 AM
Cedric, I'm waiting for your masterpiece...

Annie, I agree with you wholeheartedly about Clark. Now we know why Erica said what she did; she and Lois know that Lois is worth the wait and obviously Clark doesn't. Aaaaaargh! That, and the fact that we have to wait until January for Clark and not until February for crying out loud for Lois is the reason I gave this episode a 9. Lois and Clark's dance: no words. Clark, you had better be thinking really really hard about Lois, you finally seemed to get the clue as she was walking away.

Surprisingly Lana was not that bad for me. I think part of the reason is because I know she WILL be gone for good AND that Clana will finally be dead and buried. Also, Lana said she and Clark were never meant to be, and Clark also verbalized it. I don't like necessarily how he said it, but the words were spoken out loud. YAY!

Oliver, slightly shady with Clark and heartbreakingly cute and understanding with Lois. He must know that Clark is not treating Lois with the respect she deserves. His vendetta with the Luthor family is imho fitting for his character. Oliver has morals but I believe he also has a reputation for not necessarily playing by all of the rules.

Chloe: heartstoppingly beautiful and cute and creepy all in one episode. And her line to Lois about Lois' superdude: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Doomsday: Davis was good and the first parts of the transformation good as well. The end scene CGI, not so much. We finally get to see some shadowy glimpses of the bony spurred monster that has been causing the little hullaballoo and I feel slightly let down. The reveal is sometimes never quite as good as the imagination but I was expecting it.

Jimmy: still rooting for Clois and standing up for Chloe despite the fact that he knows he can do nothing. I don't care what other people say, I love him.

Lex????!!! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Lois: heartbreakingly beautiful and innocently dirty and cute and sexy and funny and forlorn. Hello, earth to Clark! Despite her doubts about Chloe and Jimmy, yet again she proves that she is loyal to family. I love you Lois for going to Star City with Jimmy, since you are now family, but why oh why do you have to wait until February to come back?! I hope that while you are gone Clark is thinking about you like he did as you walked away and that you come back reinvigorated having published lots of articles in the Planet as a Star City correspondent and hot on the trail of the red and blue blur.

I feel like I've forgotten something and I'm sure I have. Oh well.

The trailer for next year: OMG! I wish it were next year already.
Great, great post!!:):)

Clark's got some damage control to do when Lois returns. He'd better be up to the challenge.

I, too, like Jimmy a lot!! :) AA is a terrific Jimmy!! He really does love Chloe...and she loves him too. Just don't know what will transpire for those two as a married couple...or whatever they'll be next year. :(
There's not gonna be a Clana relationship start up while she's in town. Her motives are darker now. Plus, as you said...it will be dead and buried when she leaves...mutually dead and buried.;)

Mars Investigations
11-21-2008, 08:35 AM
Edit.

BIGBLUE1
11-21-2008, 08:44 AM
Ok Doomsday looked great for what a Tv Show can do. Im sure if it was a movie a lil more CGI would have done wonders but not bad.

The Ending?
Doomsday took Chloe to the Fortress and picked up the Brainiac essense that was left behind - Watch Last Episode "Abysse" Her eyes got all weird they turned black Brainiac is back inside her. Thats why she smiled and was thrilled to see Doomsday she only remembered Davis and this was the only way they could be together. So Thats that.

Of course the Bald guy plugged into everything is Lex. It's so fitting he's becoming a super criminal and out to Destroy Clark/Superman and will do what it takes to get what he wants.

I can't wait for Jan - There's some real good episodes coming up. I thought in the preview i saw clark landing on a balcony hmm maybe he finally gets to learn to fly.

Exciting.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ON YOUR NOTE THAT CLARK LEAPED ONTO A BUILDING THAT EPISODE HAD ALREADY PASSED.. CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE BUT IT HAPPENED PERSONALLY I THINK I WAS A JUMP.. BUT IM WITH YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL HE FLIES

tibbit78
11-21-2008, 08:51 AM
9 out of 10 for me.

Almost an eight but thought the cast knocked it out of the park tonight so was generous! ;)

Loved the build with the humorous Lois the wedding planner at the start and was really pleased to see Lois and Jimmy getting along better. Bout time. Be nice to see that friendship building if Jimmy isn't in Star City until - you know - something like episode 19.

Chloe looked stunning - seriously GLOWED (the way a bride should) - and I was much more comfortable with the Chimmy than I have been up till now. Still not seeing the sparks so much but I'll wait and see what happens down the line. Not exactly a great start to married life for either of them, I'll cut them some slack. Loved the way Chloe was played as being happy for a while and the scene at the end when her eyes changed in the fortress? Eerie stuff! Really can't wait to see where this storyline goes... Will be miffed if the level of Brainiac influence to date is left ambiguous.

The Doomsday leap from blackouts to bags of body parts and transformation? Biiitttt quick for me but LOVED the transformation and the way Davis tried to warn the cop to run away very fast. Body parts in a bag - ick - but in a disgusting cos it needed to be way... Could have done with more of a fight at the wedding but I can wait so long as it's made up for in the finale. We're due on hell of a fight at some point or I'll feel cheated.

Olivers vendetta with the Luthors? Hmm. Not the same Green Arrow but I get it and I think it adds a new darker dimension that follows on from his brief identity crisis. SO GLAD he didn't actually murder someone. Could initially have slapped him for bringing Lana to the wedding - wasn't he listening to Clark when Clark said certain things could WAIT 24hrs?! Jeez. Loved him in the scene with Lois though and that we were shown that ship has sailed. Slight inconsistency with pimping the Clana and then the Clois but can give him the benefit of the doubt because he didn't know about the Clois when he brought Ninja-Lana back to the wedding.

The Clois. Oh where do I begin?! Erica was a-m-a-z-i-n-g in this episode. The range of emotions she went through was just heartbreaking. And the dance? Whoever did the lighting, chose the music and decided it should be dialogue free needs a SERIOUS pat on the back. The tension was palpable. LOVED IT. And the following scenes with Lois and Oliver and with Lois and Clark at the hospital - just seriously - LOVED IT. There aren't enough words to stress how much I will MISS LOIS until episode 15. As a fan it made that slow motion exit all the harder to watch!!!!!

The return of Lana. I've been DREADING THIS. But much to my surprise it didn't suck all the life out of the show and regress Clark anywhere near as much as I'd expected (not that it didn't regress him but I'm getting to that). Not completely lovin the whole sacrificial love/Lana being the one to say it's over and Clark not agreeing/Lana keeping secrets AGAIN/ Lana off running round the world to protect Clark like some kind of Ninja Guardian Angel and the fact she felt the need to TELL HIM to go do his thing when he shouldn't NEED TOLD to go his thing. But I didn't feel the need to scream at my TV set and throw things across the room. And that was a miracle unto itself. Don't think I'm not WATCHING HER CLOSELY though. I've been watching for the last seven seasons - I KNOW what can happen.

Clark. Still showing the maturity I love so much this season. Love that he stands up to Oliver, like that he still has a ways to go and he's still the reason I tune in every week. BUT in such a big episode I guess I just expected more from him. When it started to go wrong for me, funnily enough, was the arrival of Lana. I guess it was meant that way but if I've got another four episodes of this coming my way I'll be... unhappy... His feelings for Lois are still ambiguous. That's probably intentional too so I get it. His relationship with Lana is unresolved. Yep. I get it. Understandable after seven years of heartache and melodrama. But he was less than an inch away from a lip-lock with Lois and when Lana arrives he doesn't so much as look back at Lois for a split second??? Not only unacceptable but unbelievable at this stage of his progression! I don't care who he was about to kiss, the fact is he WAS about to kiss her and then until he sees her in the hospital she doesn't EXIST??? It's NOT the behavior of the hero of the show and why in god's name would any woman want to stick around to be treated that way? It bothered me. And it's EXACTLY how he treated Chloe when she put her feelings for him on the line in early seasons. The second Lana appears, the person with feelings for him is casually dismissed. Literally without so much as a backward glance in this case. They just told us that Lana is the center of the Smallville universe again - and frankly - I'm sick of it. THAT'S what makes me dislike Lana. Not just the way she's been written good then bad then good then bad then tragic then heroic then heartbroken then vengeful etc etc etc and BELIEVE ME that's bad enough on it's own and KK has done well to wade her way through the constant inconsistencies. It's the fact that there seems to be this almost goddess-like worship of her by the show-runners. They need to try and remember she LEFT the show. She's here making a GUEST APPEARANCE. And in the space of a handful of scenes they had HER telling Clark 'maybe' they weren't meant to be and making it out that he would never have stepped up the way he has if it wasn't for her. Initial reaction: thank the lord for Lana or we would never have had heroic Clark. SIGH. Every single time she seems to be put on the show to remove a chunk of Clark's spine. EVERY SINGLE TIME. And after the sacrificial love speech he ignored all the injured people and called out for her first and had to be TOLD to go away and fight the bad guy and then SHE had to RESCUE HIM from that trusty plot device known as a lump of green rock. Now again I know why the green rock was used - can't have a huge Doomsday/Clark fight on the first run out but honestly? The Kryptonite plot device is OLD and OVER-USED. And then in the hospital we have Lana TELLING CLARK he has to go. If I have to watch three episodes of this kind of thing after Legion I will have a bleeding STOMACH ULCER. I'm not blaming Lana for this - miraculously again - this time I'm blaming Clark. And by default I'm blaming the way Clark was WRITTEN. He has been pro-active and mature throughout the season and with the return of Lana everything I've hated most in the past was shown all over again. He was RE-ACTIVE not PRO-ACTIVE and I hate it when he does that - season seven was ENOUGH. I was left with the distinct feeling Lana will always be the one that got away. And that's a SERIOUS PROBLEM. Cos if that's the way it's gonna be written and considering Lois' feeling were COMPLETELY DISREGARDED until Clark saw her in the hospital hallway I don't want him ANYWHERE NEAR Lois Lane. Because going by tonights episode he doesn't deserve her. He's not ready for her. And she's worth WAY MORE THAN THAT in exactly the same way that Chloe was for all those years she had feelings for him. It's called RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS Clark. Do unto others and all that... You're not a teenager any more.

But seeing as Clark showed signs of being determined to find Chloe (even if he was damn well TOLD TO GO FIND HER by Lana) and since that last slow motion scene with Lois was played so well, right now, and considering what a great job has been done up until Bride (despite the dubious secret-removal decision), I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I love mature Clark. I don't want to feel differently. Tonight he had me until Lana arrived. He wasn't as woefully angst-ridden as past seasons, so he hasn't lost me, but he DID regress. I'm now pinning my hopes on Legion so I can forgive him. I KNOW she was the love of his teenage life but he's a GROWN UP now. Open your eyes Clark and let it the hell go! And when Lois comes back, decide how the hell you feel, let us SEE IT and go after her. I hope she makes him work for it frankly.

This turned out longer than I planned. But on the whole AMAZING EPISODE with plenty to make me cross off the days on my calender until January. Just short of perfect for me because of minor Clark regression and the lack of Doomsday bloodbath and the Doomsday/Chloe love - just not completely sold on that. Frankly I think some of the arcs in Bride could have been built up in Abyss, which was slow in places and could have been better for the addition of the GA/Lex/Lana storyline in Cuba or a better glimpse of Davis' slide into the collection of body part take-out.



Excellent post, Annie. The writing was fantastic!

President_Luthor
11-21-2008, 08:54 AM
9/10 -- because it had something for everyone.

Those in it for the 'ships had a banquet: the Lollie and Chimmy fans had their morsels, Clois was through the roof in this ep. and, by Krypton, there was even Clana (and it was competing with Clois :eek: )

It was a true surprise for me when the mysterious intruder GA ran into was ... Lana! They both have reasons for going after Lex, and it's totally in-character that Ollie was the impulsive one. Lana knows the drill re: secrets and lies, having lived under the Luthor roof and dealing with Clark's destiny-stalling. Whatever you may think of Lana, Clana, etc. -- ya gotta love Lana-Fu!

No marriage of a major character in SV goes off without a hitch, and this one is no exception. Jimmy saw Chloe before the wedding (that doomed it before Doomsday set foot in the barn), but what a way to see her! Chloe :p And Davis constantly texting and calling, you just knew his impatience/obsession was going to boil over.

Clana had its place in this episode, and it was Lana who put it into perspective. Clark was the one trying to keep that Clana candle lit, but she effectively put it out (for now - I know, it's SV). This was a Lana that has learned from all the Clark-Lex fueled secrets/lies antics. She even had something to say about Clark's 'The Secret' mind-wipe for Chloe. I wonder if he'll blame Jor-El for everything again.

The two mysteries that hooked me are the text to Lana: "Did the Archer believe you?" and, what's up with Lex? I liked how they used the videotaped wedding clips throughout the episode.

And Gabe gets stiffed again :lol:

Gabe: :confused: "My daughter ... is getting married today? I thought she was studying for mid-terms at Met U.?"

kris10
11-21-2008, 09:08 AM
it was ok. i actualy put money on them doing that to Clois so thanks for the extra dough! :) im laughing to the bank.....they done it before and they at least are consistent. There were ALOT of references to the memory stuff and I am kind of stuck on whether Chloe was still infected b/c what a dose of luck she takes out the box out of the drawer and it gets left there so it can CONVENIENTLY fall out when Clark get Beachslapped...nice....lana was ok a lot better than before! Thank Goodness for that. so now Lana has to tell clark to go save people....yea ok just taking chloe's place in that dept huh? yea great.

joits
11-21-2008, 09:14 AM
its kind of ridiculous that people are complaining about doomsday and the special effects regarding that character. don't people realize their watching on their TVs and not on the big screen. it all comes down to money people... now if you're rich and want to give WB a couple of millions to give us a fully rendered CG character... please do. till then...

i liked all the clois moments and all the "talky" moments as well... i've always thought that smallville went too much for the throat with action sequences and not enough time just having the characters talk. characters make the show, not action sequences. and being able to see the revelation of lois' realization of her feelings for clark was handled very well and wasn't rushed. a lot of really great moments of friendship especially when clark gave her the borrowed corsage. loved lois' reaction to that.

now lana's role in this episode really threw me for a loop. i thought her character had been written out as having just gotten tired of all the drama and strangeness of living in smallville but apparently she's like a secret agent or something. now i'm definitely a lana fan and i do have lana blinders on... but this seemed a little... far-fetched. but with that moment of clarity over... i love how she looks! she's really changed. her looks and demeanor are so much more mature and more sure of herself. i loved how they had her tell clark that it was really over and why. also shows how clark has changed over the years, instead of whining, he understood.

really loved seeing lex in the end... that was chilling.

great cliffhanger, left us with questions like why did chloe react to doomsday with a smile at the end, who is lana texting, what kind of condition is lex in, where do lois & clark stand at the moment?

i haven't been participating in smallville forum discussions since the end of season 3... and i'm really surprised to see the reaction to the jimmy/chloe relationship. wow... so many haters here. i have no problem with it. they make a great couple.

if this is really the last season... they're really going out with a bang.

bride gets a 10 in my book.

Tompouce
11-21-2008, 09:15 AM
A 9 (not a 10, for me the best epi was "identity")but waow ! I don't know what to say...Except I was sure the kiss between Lois and Clark won't happen, I am so disappointed, I was right ! So, now we have to wait for TWO months...I agree with stenochick, TW is such a good actor, pleassse a season 9, I can't believe we won't see him anymore...

All about Clark
11-21-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm going with a rating of 8.5. I was actually expecting it to be better. I think the whole video camera angle bothered me as well.

I didn't like that Oliver would just kill Lex and without so much as being 100% sure it was Lex.

And yeah, Lois can't trust Clark with his feelings now with Lana. I really didn't care for how brutal Lana was with Clark. IDK, maybe he needed it. He did seem spineless with her and that's always upsetting, I mean, Clark, you've had months to move on, MOVE ON already.

The good for me was the talk with Lois/Oliver. The Clois dance and almost kiss. I just knew I wouldn't be able to trust TPTB to let them have their kiss. I could have bet money on it.

The wedding stuff was good and it's sad they can't be together.

I was kind of worried that Lois being so upset about the crazy events in their lives will make it difficult for Clark to tell her his secret some day. It's almost like the best thing for him to do is to keep out of people's lives. It's quite sad. All in all, this eppy was pretty sad for all concerned.

Wondered what Chloe's smile at the end was all about, was she just focusing on the good of her day or messed up by Braniac.

LuckyLois
11-21-2008, 10:11 AM
I find when I don't like something, I have paragraphs to write about it. But when I love an episode, I find that I don't have much to say other than, "Wow! A 10!"

Last night was another example of the fact that Tom Welling does his best acting sans words. That scene with him taking Lois' hand and leading her to the dance floor and then going in for the kiss was so amazing. I love how Clark acts with such deliberateness now. It is a sight to behold.

I love the buzz around here! This place is still busy and the episode aired 15 hours ago!

Get to work people before your boss looks over your shoulder at your computer screen!

ITA especially with what you said about Clark acting so pro-active now! Tom looked AMAZING and when he walked in the hospital and looked at all the people he looked like Superman. Erica was amazing!!

superpal1
11-21-2008, 10:25 AM
Gave it an 8. Three reasons-Doomsday cannot fly or superspeed. He is just super strong. Clark could have found him easily and saved Chloe. Two-for the reasons I just gave-how did Doomsday get to the Fortress so quick. Three-After Clark had the heart to heart with Jor-el, are we to assume that he has not gone back to the Fortress since to see what has become of it. May sound dumb, but these things really bothered me for some reason. Besideds that I have to give my props to Alison, Tom, and Erica for once again bringing their A-game to the show. Doomsday look was dead on as well. Also, best cliff-hanger ever on the show. Jan 15 is to far away.

dijonaise
11-21-2008, 10:26 AM
this was certainly the best episode of the season; the best in a long time, actually. but i'm still left feeling disappointed. i knew ... let me say it again...i KNEW EXACTLY what was gonna happen from the moment doomsday entered. i KNEW he'd throw clark through the air, and there would be no fight...and other than a glimpse at the end, we wouldn't even see him again. i KNEW clark wouldn't even have a chance. MAN! that pisses me off. it happens all the time! i am SO DAMN sick of them making clark look like a puss and never get a chance to really hit someone! i want to see clark beat the snot out of someone or something just like general zod did(through lex) to him when he was beating him into the big rock. i SO want to see clark do something...anything like that. hell, i'd just be happy if he landed a single punch. oh, sure...he punched braniac one good time, but that was it (and that only happened after SEVERAL encounters).
anyway...i'm just pissed that they took the same ol' route in an episode that had the potential to be EPIC.

BUT...
i DID like a lot in this episode.
the reassurance clark got from chloe about "the weight being lifted"
the candidness of lois. that's another thing...i KNEW lana would come in and ruin the day. damnit. why can't she just die already!? let's get to LOIS AND CLARK! the clois kiss DID, in fact ALMOST happen - which, of course, means that they'll both be aware now of the mutual feelings.
jimmy standing up to doomsday was great. poor jimmy.
oliver FINALLY coming around and realizing that he should be more like clark.
ok...ok...ok...i'll admit it...it was nice to see lana in this one. but only because her and clark can FINALLY admit that it's over. i liked how she came to clark's rescue up in the loft.
then there's the ending...what can i say...they did a great job of making me amped to see the next episode. i'm eagerly anticipating chloe's outcome.


-d

Joelito
11-21-2008, 10:27 AM
8: and just because it left nice cliffhangers

Fish1941
11-21-2008, 10:35 AM
I thought it was a pretty damn good episode. A little dark in the end, but I had no problem with that. The dark ending made a good cliffhanger for next January.

Timester
11-21-2008, 10:39 AM
Gave it an 8. Three reasons-Doomsday cannot fly or superspeed. He is just super strong.

Doomsday does have super speed. Don't know what gave you that wrong idea.

dezperado
11-21-2008, 10:51 AM
I just ignore the super-negative posts.

You're right stenochick, but I just had to say something. 9 out of 10! Is it January yet?

Saber
11-21-2008, 11:25 AM
It really wouldn't have been that bad. Usually bad odors from barns come from animals...cows, chickens, pigs, ect... But the only animal I recall ever being in the barn was Shelby...and the dog was getting a bath. LOL!

Seeing as how Clark has used the barn loft for YEARS as his own little hang out, I seriously doubt there are any objectionable smells in the barn.


Maybe, but he was always saying he had to muck out the stalls. So I think more than just Shelby and Clark lived in that barn :D. Also, in Prodigy Lex was shoveling the hay with some look-a-like poo.
Any ways it was just a comment on the wedding hall, I think I would have loved a chapel wedding for Chloe, IMO.

Tompouce
11-21-2008, 11:43 AM
Get to work people before your boss looks over your shoulder at your computer screen!
The first thing I have done this morning at my job was to read your feelings about the show:D

Seeya'round Smallville
11-21-2008, 11:45 AM
So...I guess I liked it OK. Felt like I was just waiting for the other shoe to drop, wasn't as fun as the rest of the first half. I think I anticipated Bloodline a lot more and wasn't near as psyched for this as everyone else 'cause I figured the ending would suck. Maybe it's one of those you have to see a second time to get it. *shrugs*

I so expected the kiss interruption and vented my outrage at the stupidity of their casting decisions the last couple weeks, so I wasn't mad at the ep. The only thing I really thought was that Lois kindly looking after Jimmy in Chloe's absence is only a one week off excuse, so the fact that it's up to the writers to take care of that is quite lame and a bit troublesome. Maybe Geoff Johns can come through in that regard, one would hope. That and it wouldn't kill Clark to actually TALK to Lois or to SOMEONE about her. You know, "You look beautiful, Lois" when she came down the stairs, talking to Jimmy or Oliver and them catching on, SOMETHING. Tom did a FINE, no a darn GOOD job with his non-verbals in that regard, but good Lord show give him some darn dialogue about her. Lois has done her share of opening up, the second half it is Clark's turn to return the favor to the audience IMO.

I think the best scene was the getting ready one with Clark & Lois, big time sexual tension going on. I think the best dialogue scene was the one that surprised me with Lois and Oliver. While I strongly dislike the lack of long-range explanation for their moronic casting decisions, I'm glad I didn't have to see Lois critically injured like I was expecting. I thought her talk with Oliver was really nice and the first real conversation they've had since he joined the cast, so it was cool that they verbally mentioned that they've moved on and I loved that Ollie could tell Lois & Clark are having feelings for each other. USE THAT SHOW. Ollie is in 2 of the next 4 eps, Clark needs to talk to him about Lois during this time at least once. BTW, Erica was awesome in that scene and the entire ep. I'm going to miss her terribly until February 12, and I think the show is going to miss her terribly too.

I think this is an ep I may enjoy more later on, and felt it was very well done, so I'm going with an 8.

6-Super-Man -5
11-21-2008, 11:48 AM
Look forward to its conclusion.

songwriter09
11-21-2008, 11:51 AM
I gave this episode a nine (although it was close to being an eight)

Aaron Ashmore was incredible as Jimmy. Usually I don't connect with his character therefore I don't generally like his screen time, but this week I connected and loved his screen time. I loved his time talking with Lois. He sounded very intelligent and it looked like his acting took a huge leap into greatness!

Erica Durance to me is the best Lois Lane I have seen, and last night's episode proved that (in the loving Clark aspect). I really enjoyed those awkward moments between she and Clark (especially the sex related comment that was made lol). Also the dialogue between she and Oliver Queen showed that he still has feelings for her but understands she can't be with him so by wanting to be a best-friend really portrayed the honor, dignity, and love he has for Lois. Justin Hartley is THE BEST!! :D

I'm super excited to see the plot unfold with Green Arrow and that guy in the airplane as well as with Lana working with someone. January 15 seems sooo far away but hopefully time will fly like it normally does.

I loved this episode (as I'm sure you can tell) but I do have one complaint: Doomsday looked like a man in a cheesy costume. I had wondered what the Smallville crew would do with their interpretation of the villian and unfortunately it didn't look so scary or alien. I wish the visual effects team had put some extras into his skin/suit but you know we can't always get what we want :(

Overall this episode was amazing and I don't know if I can wait for Season Eight to come out on DVD!!! (I know its not even over yet and I'm all ready wanting it darn.) :)

moon114
11-21-2008, 11:52 AM
i give it a 10..... but what makes me mad is the whole lana/lex thing.... come on that was lex in the end of the episode. how did he get the video ? im not sure but!! lana got an txt saying : " did the archer believe you ? " ( soo.. she is into something no good ) and! maybe the one who is dying is lex and not lana :S spoilers said :_ that lana is in some kind of luthorcorp experiments but she is just fine ! the one dying is lex .....

SupesComicFan
11-21-2008, 11:54 AM
Lex can't die. DC Comics won't let Smallville kill him. Lana, however, is fair game.

The three people who are safe from dying (according to DC Comics) in Smallville (at least permanently dying):
Clark, Lex, Lois

6-Super-Man -5
11-21-2008, 12:07 PM
I gave this episode a nine (although it was close to being an eight)

Aaron Ashmore was incredible as Jimmy. Usually I don't connect with his character therefore I don't generally like his screen time, but this week I connected and loved his screen time. I loved his time talking with Lois. He sounded very intelligent and it looked like his acting took a huge leap into greatness!

Erica Durance to me is the best Lois Lane I have seen, and last night's episode proved that (in the loving Clark aspect). I really enjoyed those awkward moments between she and Clark (especially the sex related comment that was made lol). Also the dialogue between she and Oliver Queen showed that he still has feelings for her but understands she can't be with him so by wanting to be a best-friend really portrayed the honor, dignity, and love he has for Lois. Justin Hartley is THE BEST!! :D

I'm super excited to see the plot unfold with Green Arrow and that guy in the airplane as well as with Lana working with someone. January 15 seems sooo far away but hopefully time will fly like it normally does.

I loved this episode (as I'm sure you can tell) but I do have one complaint: Doomsday looked like a man in a cheesy costume. I had wondered what the Smallville crew would do with their interpretation of the villian and unfortunately it didn't look so scary or alien. I wish the visual effects team had put some extras into his skin/suit but you know we can't always get what we want :(

Overall this episode was amazing and I don't know if I can wait for Season Eight to come out on DVD!!! (I know its not even over yet and I'm all ready wanting it darn.) :)

I'm going to get it as well! Episode was awesome!
I want a Season Nine!

Krypton935
11-21-2008, 12:11 PM
That was the most EPIC and AMAZING episode ever!!!! that was completely insane I loved it!!! WoW I feel like im gonna explode!! AHHHHH! I can't wait for JANUARY!!! THat was crazy!!!! 101010101010101010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reobeem
11-21-2008, 12:12 PM
There were so many things right about this episode that I don't know where to start. Seeing Lana return didn't upset me but Clark better stay the ways he's been this season and not go back to the way he was in season 6. Doomsday looked like he should, I understood why they kept him in the dark and kept his kills offscreen because they were too graphic. I'm bummed that Martha, Pete, and Henry Small weren't at the wedding seeing as they are immportant and close to the main characters. This episode also gave a good reason why Lois won't be around too much. Those last few seconds were worth the whole episode and that preview makes the rest of the season look epic.

superpal1
11-21-2008, 12:14 PM
When did he get superspeed? The way I remember the Death of Superman was that Doomsday just walked across the states(maybe superjumped) destroying everything in his path to get to Metropolis. Even when he fought the Justice League, he didn't superspeed, he just beat them with brute force(nothing could stop him, but Superman). He never flew, used heat vision, etc. If they changed it later on then I'm sorry, but I don't remember it from his first appearance.

kalelnica
11-21-2008, 12:21 PM
liked the epsidode. gave it a 10. i think lois shouldnt fall in love with clark. she should fall in love with superman just like in the movies/comics. this show needs the tights.

KalEltheBoyscout
11-21-2008, 12:47 PM
WOW! What a fantastic episode. It's going to be a long few months. Where do I start? Clois, Lana, Green Arrow in action, DOOMSDAY (Who looks amazing considering Smallville's budget), and Lex Luthor! I could not get that amazing ending out of my mind all day. "Legion" should be phenomenal.

SupesComicFan
11-21-2008, 12:51 PM
Geoff Johns writing, it is going to be FANTASTIC.

mikejm78
11-21-2008, 12:51 PM
It was the best yet! This season only gets better. 7 seasons and the wait is paying off!

6-Super-Man -5
11-21-2008, 01:02 PM
It has to be good!

diinIN
11-21-2008, 01:09 PM
I gave it a 9. It's REALLY hard for an episode to earn a 10 from me. Things like Rosetta, Memoria, Reckoning, Promise, get 10s from me.

That said, this was great. I loved the Clois scenes. I hate it that they didn't actually get to kiss, but they were going to, and they both knew it, and they were both going for it. The progression toward them being together in the end is being done well, both from a writing standpoint, and an acting one. It's true to life with how a friendship that starts to blossom into romance goes through a very awkward stage. Hopefully we're getting past that, though. I was a little miffed at Clark for not looking for Lois after the barn cave-in.

I liked Kristin's new hair. Much more flattering on her than the plain, straight, long 70's style that has dragged it's way back into popularity. I'm so glad she and Clark didn't actually hug or kiss or anything. I'm glad they are moving past being together. I hope Lois realizes this soon. It's a shame she's not in the next several episodes.

I'd love to know what that text message actually meant, though.

Chloe's wedding in Clark's barn was funny, and maybe not so far-fetched.

I wonder what Chloe's smile at the last shot meant. THAT was a big teaser. I wish they could get MR to come back and guest star in just a couple episodes. That would add so much to the show. It helps that Lex is still around, even though he really isn't. They talk about him and he's very much still a part of the story even with MR gone.

Season 8 has been great!

Loved the 10 episodes in a row! Much better than other seasons where they were broken up over the holidays. I hope it works better for the cast and crew too, hopefully giving them more time off for the holidays.

Bre723
11-21-2008, 01:12 PM
This is my new fav of the season for far.
the ending gave me shivers.

Jaderoyale
11-21-2008, 01:26 PM
Okay, this episode calls for something i haven't done in a while for Smallville. An actual review. Its needed.

Okay, when i first watched it, i will be honest, i found it so good. But then i got thinking about it, and i got angry, slightly upset, but mostly disappointed. And i have never felt that way about a Smallville episode since 'Thirst'. My gut instinct was to rebel, shout even, give up on the show and never look back. But lets face it, i can't do that. I've been watching this show for 8 years, i've grown up with it. It would be stupid to give up now.
So i did what i thought was best. I rewatched it. 5 times. And i found it so much better, the first few times i sat and really watched, analysing every detail. Then i just watched it for fun, to see if i enjoyed it. And here are my conclusions;

Pro's;

1/ LOIS LANE - Now i know alot of posters are going on about this whole "whiny" and "pinning" nature they've given Lois. That seriously is NOT the case. With Superman, we have always seen him fall for Lois FIRST, SV is taking a different route, making Lois fall for Clark. And honestly? I love it. Its showed the vunerable side to Lois that she tries to keep so hidden from the world. Lois is meant to be brash, up front and down right rude at times, and she has been. Yet, shes fallen for someone she never thought she would; Clark Kent. Her talk with Oliver was fantastic, not only has she admited to herself that she feels for him, shes admitted it to her ex love; who in my opinion, seemed completely happy for her. Her leaving SV for Star City to look after Jimmy? I'm sorry but i found that to be AMAZING. Yes, she is ultimately leaving Clark to sort out whatever he and Lana need to; but she's going to watch over Jimmy, i found that sweet, and completely heart breaking.

2/ LANA LANG - Shocked i've put her as a pro her? Don't be. I liked that PS3 have kept the idea of her protecting Clark, and thats why she was in Cuba, its continuity. I have to say, i thought KK looked gorgeous; i even think she may have put a little weight on, which does not bother me, as i thought KK looked really stressed and ill during S6 and some of S7 - this shows that the break KK has had is just what she needed. We were brought a more mature Lana; this is what i have craved for SEASONS. The headstrong woman, who looks out for Clark, i mean, she climbed the stairs to the loft with her injured leg, to get the kryptonite away from Clark, i found that to be a nice touch. Although, its clear the decisive Lana has not gone, and this bothers me (See Con's).

3/ CLARK KENT - Now Clark can do absolutely nothing wrong in my eyes this season. Even if he did technically ignore Lois as soon as Lana arrived :mad:
Anyway. First of all, this is the episode where Clark is FINALLY recognising his attraction to Lois, and it was put across so well. The way he was mesmerized by her attaching the cufflinks to his shirt was priceless in my eyes. You could clearly see that he was still carrying guilt around for what happened in Abyss, but what Chloe said to him ("A weight has been lifted, i feel at ease,") seemed to settle him. I found it hard to read the look on his face when Lana arrived, at first i thought he was happy, but after studying it closely, to me it looks like fear, anxiety, and general worry. He's just got himself to forget about her, and she's just popped back up?
People are not giving him enough credit for this. Lana broke up with him over a video, not to his face. I don't know about you, but if my bf broke up with me over a video, i'd have a harder time processing it, than if it was to my face.
Now my favourite Clark moment? He was literally head and shoulders above everybody else (seriously, look when they show the guests, all i saw was Clark. Tall,)
When Lana got hurt, he rushed over to her - he would have done this to ANYBODY i assure you. Then, Doomsday came, and he didn't even think twice about it, he went to hit him with everything he had. The look of pure shock on his face when Doomsday caught his fist was incredible. I don't think we've seen Clark look worried like that in a long time.

4/ CLOIS - Okay, i overspoiled myself with the Clois scenes before the episode, because thats ALL THERE WAS *TEAR*. The almost kiss? Okay, it needed to be interrupted, i know that, but that doesn't stop the nagging wondering, what if they kissed? WHAT IF PS3?! But the best Clois scene? By far, the end scene with them. Watch Clark closely. The way he hugs her, fiercely, its like he didn't want to let her go. Then the realisation on his face, he's realised he's missed his chance, Lois has begun to build up her emotional wall, and its going to take him an age to break through it. The look on his face as she walked away was enough to set me off crying, that doubled with the fact Lois turned round, and Vast - Don't Take Your Love Away, was playing, literally had me sobbing like a baby.

5/ DAVIS/DOOMSDAY - Imo? That was Doomsday. Honestly, he freaked me out. Showing Davis actually tranform? That was a complete shock to me, i didn't expect it. And it was done well. Doomsday, was done well. Some people may not like him, but i did, i actually wanted more of him if i'm honest :(

6/ THE END MONTAGE - Can i just say, the song choice, has to be one of the best since S5's Arrival with Depeche Mode's Precious playing. The fact the song started to play as Clark hugged Lois was enough for me. I am a complete sucker for montage sequences, i will never say anything bad about them, and this was one of the best i have seen. You could see Lois' actually begin to hold her head higher as she walked away from Clark, Lana in the hospital bed looking distraught i must say, then... Doomsday taking Chloe to the Fortress. And there is Chloiac. That smile was creepy. And then... hang on... surely thats not... is that LEX!? (personally, yes i think it was Lex, but it WASN'T MR)

7/ THE ACTING/THE CAST - I don't think we give the cast big enough applause for what they do, week on week we criticise the episode and on occasion their acting, but for what reason? They are acting on the material they have been given. TW and ED really upped their game, it has to be said. I don't think i have EVER seen ED act that well, it was amazing. And TW, well he never ceases to amaze me.

Cons;

1/ LANA LANG - Yes she's a con too. Purely for this reason - SHE'S STILL LYING. That message on her phone? I have to say, i think that was Tess. But, she's meant to come back all reformed, honest, mature, ready to finally move on from Clark. And shes STILL LYING. *Fit of rage*

2/ DOOMSDAY FOR CHLOE? - I really do NOT like this. I like Chloe and Davis. But Doomsday, actually craddling Chloe's face and breathing the name "Chloe," was utterly... well i just didn't like it. Its completely like the whole "Bride of Frankenstein" theme there, with him taking her in her wedding dress etc. It begs me to ask the question, did he take her because he knew she was infected with Brainiac, or because he wanted her? I know the fortress turned her into Chloiac... but firstly how did Dooms know how to get there? Needed to be explained better.

3/ JIMMYS INJURY - That was HORRIBLE. I actually screamed. I knew Jimmy was going t get injured, we all did. But the way Doomsday actually injured him? I know Doomsday is all for the pain and carnage, but that, that was purely pay back. It was as though Dooms was saying "THE WOMAN IS MINE B""$H!" to Jimmys chest. I felt for Jimmy so much. He was trying to protect his wife :(

4/ THE RETURN OF THE KRYPTONITE - I felt such a wave of saddness when Chloe didn't recognise the Kryptonite. Yeah, however, did they have to? DID THEY HAVE TO BRING KRYPTONITE IN IT? I would have honestly, Clark tried to fight Doomsday, and be stopped by his strength, not by his one weakness that is conveniently there. I know its always going to pop up, but for once, just for ONCE could it not stay hidden?

5/ LACK OF FIGHT - To me, this episode lacked the FIGHT. You know, the fight that gets you shouting "HIT HIM!" at the screen or "RUN AWAAAYYYY". Don't get me wrong, i was practically shouting "run away" at the screen when Doomsday arrived (i literally swore at my TV when the handy little Cloverfield esq recording guy got so conveniently killed). It was getting to 10 minutes of the episode left, and i was like, what? WHERE IS DOOMSDAY. He literally popped up. Threw some people. Severly injured Jimmy, stole Chloe and that was it. I wanted MORE.

Okay, so putting everything into account?
It was a good episode. I admit it. HOWEVER, i think i hyped myself up so much for it, that all i would literally get was disappointment. I spent the entire day thinking about how great the episode would be, and when it came, i was left feeling let down. But that, is purely my fault.

After rewatching it so many times, i have decided; it was a good episode.
The cliffhanger, is one of the best we've seen in a while. For me, much alike in Gemini last year, it was not expected at all. This makes me wonder, is Lex going to come back? Because if he does, Clark is in so much more trouble than he realises. A nice killing machine, and an eccentric bald guy that knows his secret. Gee, i'd hate to be Clark right now.
Also, i forgot to mention. Jimmy? Oh you wonderful Cloiser shipper you. I really loved him in this episode. When the vicar announced "you may now kiss the bride," and he practically threw Chloe to the floor, i wet myself laughing. Oh Jimmy. DON'T YOU DARE DIE ON ME. You're just becoming how you SHOULD have been percieved for 2 seasons.

Rating?
I so want to give it 10. But, i can't.
It's a 9 from me.

geminis
11-21-2008, 02:10 PM
Great review, Jade! Now you made me want your reviews as much as Cedric's. Which I'm still waiting for. Patiently. Okay, not so much. You hear me, Fallen One!

tibbit78
11-21-2008, 02:43 PM
Okay, this episode calls for something i haven't done in a while for Smallville. An actual review. Its needed.

Okay, when i first watched it, i will be honest, i found it so good. But then i got thinking about it, and i got angry, slightly upset, but mostly disappointed. And i have never felt that way about a Smallville episode since 'Thirst'. My gut instinct was to rebel, shout even, give up on the show and never look back. But lets face it, i can't do that. I've been watching this show for 8 years, i've grown up with it. It would be stupid to give up now.
So i did what i thought was best. I rewatched it. 5 times. And i found it so much better, the first few times i sat and really watched, analysing every detail. Then i just watched it for fun, to see if i enjoyed it. And here are my conclusions;

Pro's;

1/ LOIS LANE - Now i know alot of posters are going on about this whole "whiny" and "pinning" nature they've given Lois. That seriously is NOT the case. With Superman, we have always seen him fall for Lois FIRST, SV is taking a different route, making Lois fall for Clark. And honestly? I love it. Its showed the vunerable side to Lois that she tries to keep so hidden from the world. Lois is meant to be brash, up front and down right rude at times, and she has been. Yet, shes fallen for someone she never thought she would; Clark Kent. Her talk with Oliver was fantastic, not only has she admited to herself that she feels for him, shes admitted it to her ex love; who in my opinion, seemed completely happy for her. Her leaving SV for Star City to look after Jimmy? I'm sorry but i found that to be AMAZING. Yes, she is ultimately leaving Clark to sort out whatever he and Lana need to; but she's going to watch over Jimmy, i found that sweet, and completely heart breaking.

2/ LANA LANG - Shocked i've put her as a pro her? Don't be. I liked that PS3 have kept the idea of her protecting Clark, and thats why she was in Cuba, its continuity. I have to say, i thought KK looked gorgeous; i even think she may have put a little weight on, which does not bother me, as i thought KK looked really stressed and ill during S6 and some of S7 - this shows that the break KK has had is just what she needed. We were brought a more mature Lana; this is what i have craved for SEASONS. The headstrong woman, who looks out for Clark, i mean, she climbed the stairs to the loft with her injured leg, to get the kryptonite away from Clark, i found that to be a nice touch. Although, its clear the decisive Lana has not gone, and this bothers me (See Con's).

3/ CLARK KENT - Now Clark can do absolutely nothing wrong in my eyes this season. Even if he did technically ignore Lois as soon as Lana arrived :mad:
Anyway. First of all, this is the episode where Clark is FINALLY recognising his attraction to Lois, and it was put across so well. The way he was mesmerized by her attaching the cufflinks to his shirt was priceless in my eyes. You could clearly see that he was still carrying guilt around for what happened in Abyss, but what Chloe said to him ("A weight has been lifted, i feel at ease,") seemed to settle him. I found it hard to read the look on his face when Lana arrived, at first i thought he was happy, but after studying it closely, to me it looks like fear, anxiety, and general worry. He's just got himself to forget about her, and she's just popped back up?
People are not giving him enough credit for this. Lana broke up with him over a video, not to his face. I don't know about you, but if my bf broke up with me over a video, i'd have a harder time processing it, than if it was to my face.
Now my favourite Clark moment? He was literally head and shoulders above everybody else (seriously, look when they show the guests, all i saw was Clark. Tall,)
When Lana got hurt, he rushed over to her - he would have done this to ANYBODY i assure you. Then, Doomsday came, and he didn't even think twice about it, he went to hit him with everything he had. The look of pure shock on his face when Doomsday caught his fist was incredible. I don't think we've seen Clark look worried like that in a long time.

4/ CLOIS - Okay, i overspoiled myself with the Clois scenes before the episode, because thats ALL THERE WAS *TEAR*. The almost kiss? Okay, it needed to be interrupted, i know that, but that doesn't stop the nagging wondering, what if they kissed? WHAT IF PS3?! But the best Clois scene? By far, the end scene with them. Watch Clark closely. The way he hugs her, fiercely, its like he didn't want to let her go. Then the realisation on his face, he's realised he's missed his chance, Lois has begun to build up her emotional wall, and its going to take him an age to break through it. The look on his face as she walked away was enough to set me off crying, that doubled with the fact Lois turned round, and Vast - Don't Take Your Love Away, was playing, literally had me sobbing like a baby.

5/ DAVIS/DOOMSDAY - Imo? That was Doomsday. Honestly, he freaked me out. Showing Davis actually tranform? That was a complete shock to me, i didn't expect it. And it was done well. Doomsday, was done well. Some people may not like him, but i did, i actually wanted more of him if i'm honest :(

6/ THE END MONTAGE - Can i just say, the song choice, has to be one of the best since S5's Arrival with Depeche Mode's Precious playing. The fact the song started to play as Clark hugged Lois was enough for me. I am a complete sucker for montage sequences, i will never say anything bad about them, and this was one of the best i have seen. You could see Lois' actually begin to hold her head higher as she walked away from Clark, Lana in the hospital bed looking distraught i must say, then... Doomsday taking Chloe to the Fortress. And there is Chloiac. That smile was creepy. And then... hang on... surely thats not... is that LEX!? (personally, yes i think it was Lex, but it WASN'T MR)

7/ THE ACTING/THE CAST - I don't think we give the cast big enough applause for what they do, week on week we criticise the episode and on occasion their acting, but for what reason? They are acting on the material they have been given. TW and ED really upped their game, it has to be said. I don't think i have EVER seen ED act that well, it was amazing. And TW, well he never ceases to amaze me.

Cons;

1/ LANA LANG - Yes she's a con too. Purely for this reason - SHE'S STILL LYING. That message on her phone? I have to say, i think that was Tess. But, she's meant to come back all reformed, honest, mature, ready to finally move on from Clark. And shes STILL LYING. *Fit of rage*

2/ DOOMSDAY FOR CHLOE? - I really do NOT like this. I like Chloe and Davis. But Doomsday, actually craddling Chloe's face and breathing the name "Chloe," was utterly... well i just didn't like it. Its completely like the whole "Bride of Frankenstein" theme there, with him taking her in her wedding dress etc. It begs me to ask the question, did he take her because he knew she was infected with Brainiac, or because he wanted her? I know the fortress turned her into Chloiac... but firstly how did Dooms know how to get there? Needed to be explained better.

3/ JIMMYS INJURY - That was HORRIBLE. I actually screamed. I knew Jimmy was going t get injured, we all did. But the way Doomsday actually injured him? I know Doomsday is all for the pain and carnage, but that, that was purely pay back. It was as though Dooms was saying "THE WOMAN IS MINE B""$H!" to Jimmys chest. I felt for Jimmy so much. He was trying to protect his wife :(

4/ THE RETURN OF THE KRYPTONITE - I felt such a wave of saddness when Chloe didn't recognise the Kryptonite. Yeah, however, did they have to? DID THEY HAVE TO BRING KRYPTONITE IN IT? I would have honestly, Clark tried to fight Doomsday, and be stopped by his strength, not by his one weakness that is conveniently there. I know its always going to pop up, but for once, just for ONCE could it not stay hidden?

5/ LACK OF FIGHT - To me, this episode lacked the FIGHT. You know, the fight that gets you shouting "HIT HIM!" at the screen or "RUN AWAAAYYYY". Don't get me wrong, i was practically shouting "run away" at the screen when Doomsday arrived (i literally swore at my TV when the handy little Cloverfield esq recording guy got so conveniently killed). It was getting to 10 minutes of the episode left, and i was like, what? WHERE IS DOOMSDAY. He literally popped up. Threw some people. Severly injured Jimmy, stole Chloe and that was it. I wanted MORE.

Okay, so putting everything into account?
It was a good episode. I admit it. HOWEVER, i think i hyped myself up so much for it, that all i would literally get was disappointment. I spent the entire day thinking about how great the episode would be, and when it came, i was left feeling let down. But that, is purely my fault.

After rewatching it so many times, i have decided; it was a good episode.
The cliffhanger, is one of the best we've seen in a while. For me, much alike in Gemini last year, it was not expected at all. This makes me wonder, is Lex going to come back? Because if he does, Clark is in so much more trouble than he realises. A nice killing machine, and an eccentric bald guy that knows his secret. Gee, i'd hate to be Clark right now.
Also, i forgot to mention. Jimmy? Oh you wonderful Cloiser shipper you. I really loved him in this episode. When the vicar announced "you may now kiss the bride," and he practically threw Chloe to the floor, i wet myself laughing. Oh Jimmy. DON'T YOU DARE DIE ON ME. You're just becoming how you SHOULD have been percieved for 2 seasons.

Rating?
I so want to give it 10. But, i can't.
It's a 9 from me.



Great review, Jade.

Hippolyta
11-21-2008, 02:51 PM
I'm going to get my ideas down before I read other people's posts and get influenced by them.

I really really really enjoyed it. I've heard lots of Clois fans complain about Lois being 'pushed to the sidelines' but- as a Clois fan myself- I really didn't feel that. Lois was the leading lady in this episode. She even had more screen time than Chloe (and it was her wedding!). I think this episode showed Lois becoming overwhelmed by her feelings. Her expression when she turned on the dancefloor to see Clark watching her, then the lights dimmed and that slow music came on...she was scared. Lois was terrified of Clark and of what she felt for him. It was all about Lois' feelings for Clark and Clark beginning to realise that he can move on. And I loved it! Clark's feelings haven't been spelled out like Lois' have but I think thats because he doesn't really understand whats going on between them. I'm so looking forward to their interaction in the second half of the season- I'm hoping for Lois to come back spine straight, head held high and defenses raised, and then it'll be Clark's turn to come to a few realisations.

I didn't even mind the Clark/Lana scene, which I expected to hate. Lana is not the same person she was even last year. Their conversation in the barn was remarkably angst-free and mature, I was impressed with both of them. Compare their interaction with the Clois interaction. Clark and Lana were quite distant, and everything they said and did IMO was based on the residual feelings (does that make sense?). Its like Oliver was saying- its 'over' but they've still not really moved on. However, Clark and Lois' scenes were charged with sexual tension, emotion, and awkwardness. This episode showed to me clearly that Clana is in its death throes, while Clois is just beginning :D.

As for DOOMSDAY. He was pretty cool. He was in it for less time than I expected. He kinda reminded me of the bad guy from Galaxy Quest. Sort of.

I loved the ending. When Doomsday was carrying Chloe through the FOS (was it?) I got goosebumps, its was wonderful. The lighting in that scene was outstanding as well, it gave Chloe an ethereal quality, which made her look really beautiful but...that smile at the end scared me.

And...LEX?

I just want to add that all the cast were amazing, especially Erica, who probably had the most emotional stuff to work with.

All in all it was an excellent episode, the best i've seen on Smallville for ages. I gave it 10/10!

Amylia
11-21-2008, 02:52 PM
i just cant put an episode down, i wanted more clois! they melt me w/ chemistry. i will be watching reruns and DVR'ed episodes until the 15th! dang it i want season 9:cool:;):D

unfocused
11-21-2008, 03:01 PM
Great episode. Love the reviews.

pbush77
11-21-2008, 03:43 PM
Well, well. I've not visited the forums for a while, but this episode made me sit up and want to see what everybody else was saying about it!

Personally, I liked the way they portrayed Doomsday. Budget or not, keeping him in shadows was a brilliant idea. Monster movies always work better that way, just a little at a time. Like the original Alien movie. Top stuff. I also didn't think the suit looked as bad as most people seem to think. Put it this way, they've taken a comic/cartoon character and turned him into live-action for the first time... on a budget. And yet, I doubt anyone would say that he did not look how they would imagine Doomsday to look (rubber suit jokes aside). Plus, remember how we all were worried when they first announced the Davis Bloom character? First they said Doomsday were coming, and we all doubted they could pull off a real alien. Then they announced Davis and we thought, 'great, another villain transformed into a human by Smallville'. But, lo and behold!, they really went for it. Surely nobody can be disappointed by that.

As for the Lois/Clark "kiss", I thought it was also well done. Let's face it, they can't have those two getting together only 10 episodes after Lana left - especially when Clark isn't even Superman yet. I'm actually surprised they have gone this fast with them, but maybe they've been wanting to do this for years (before Al/Miles left the show) and are acting out their fantasies before a possible cancellation (which, at this point, I'm really hoping doesn't happen... contrary to my thoughts at the end of season 7). The scene prompted a response of "poor Lois", and I decided the writers were being really mean to her. Provoking that sort of viewer response - that they care and were hit emotionally - is top writing. You have to lead them down a path, then defy expectations. It's in the rules! ;)

It was also nice to get a brief glimpse of "Lex" at the end. Obviously, it wasn't MR, but they didn't really need him. I hope they do use MR in some capacity (a phone call would be the obvious option), but just keeping him in the Smallville memory is a good idea. I feared they might just conveniently forget about him, which would have been the easy option. Again, good writing.

By the way, I really don't believe that Chlois was turning back into Brainiac at the fortress. That doesn't mesh with anything the writers were building up with Chloe and Davis, and the last episode was designed to eliminate her memories of Clark's abilities (for at least a while) - which would be pointless if she is suddenly taken over AGAIN by Brainiac.
No, I think that infection has gone. We saw it pour out of her in the last episode. Brainiac may not be dead, but he's not in Chloe. Rather, I think that scene was showing some sort of hypnotic power that Doomsday has over her. She's suddenly in love with him. Just wait, you'll see I'm right. :)

Oh, and for the poster that asked why Doomsday suddenly had superspeed: I think it's because they laid down his backstory a couple of episodes ago, and told us that he's basically from Krypton. Thus, he would have the same powers as Clark, even if he is stronger.

Overall, not perfect (they never are), but certainly a 9 out of 10. Top stuff, makes me want more!

skylar
11-21-2008, 03:51 PM
I find when I don't like something, I have paragraphs to write about it. But when I love an episode, I find that I don't have much to say other than, "Wow! A 10!"

Last night was another example of the fact that Tom Welling does his best acting sans words. That scene with him taking Lois' hand and leading her to the dance floor and then going in for the kiss was so amazing. I love how Clark acts with such deliberateness now. It is a sight to behold.

I love the buzz around here! This place is still busy and the episode aired 15 hours ago!

Get to work people before your boss looks over your shoulder at your computer screen!

That is one of my favorite moments from Clark;)

Marissa
11-21-2008, 04:10 PM
OMG! I am so excited. Doomsday totally rocked! I actually loved Lana to, although not for interrupting the Clois kiss.

I cannot wait for January 15th.. Why do we have to wait so long?

babyluthor
11-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Good episode. I'll give it an 8. They sure left a lot of cliffhangers. That should keep us guessing until January 15th.

So Oliver finds Lana in Cuba and she says she is also looking for Lex. I have a feeling Lana is actually working with Lex, especially after she got that text message. It was nice to see her back on the show. But I don't like that she interrupted what was about to be a Clark and Lois kiss. Darn it Lana, 1st you get in between Chloe and Clark and now you mess it up for Lois and Clark hehe.

They really tried to push the Lois/Clark relationship in this episode, at least from Lois' perspective. She has shown interest, but kept it hidden. Clark has not shown as much interest, but it did look like he was going in for that kiss. I would like to see Clark show some more interest in Lois soon.

So Davis turns into Doomsday and kidnaps Chloe. I thought it was pretty well done given Smallville's budget. I'm wondering why he took Chloe to the fortress. Its strange Davis doesn't remember things when he wakes up, but when he is in Doomsday mode, he still goes after Chloe? Looks like Chloe got influenced by something at the fortress. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.

Then of course is the end where we see what kinda looks like Lex. I'm wondering what is with all the wires, and how did he get the video from the wedding? So many questions hehe. Anyway, good episode.

J.D
11-21-2008, 04:27 PM
The whole time I was watching the episode I could barely hold myself back from screaming in excitement. This for me was one of the most exciting episodes of smallville I've seen!

I loved how at the start there were subtle references to the fact in the end, the wedding was going to be 'doomed' (couldn't resist :p.) For example, when Chloe said "T-minus 3 hours till D-day" Stuff like that I love to see.

One thing I didn't like was though that the build up to Davis's transformation was a bit lacking, I wish they stretched he's scenes a bit longer, perhaps see him first go through some emotional bits, we know Sam has the talent for it, we pretty much saw it as he was transforming again, begging for that guy to leave. I only wish Sam had more scenes.

As for Lois and Clark, damn I loved every second of those two togther, I had a feeling Clark was just reading the vows, which was a shame but it was nice to see how Lois would of reacted if Clark had confessed.
The dancing scene I loved the most, where you had the camera focused on Lois and in the background you can see Clark looking over at her.
But the part that made me squeal was when Clark grabbed her hand, for a dance. Loved it!
The build up for the kiss was great, Erica Played it really well, there were no need for an words in that scene, you could see in the way she acted how she was feeling, at first a look of hope at him, and you have Tom delivering well too, and when the joy you see on Lois's face when the kiss is about to happen DAMN I just loved it :p (will be saying that alot.) Some people may say that their relationship has been done too fast, but regardless of that there is no denying that the scenes are played so well.

But of course the thing I really hoped that wouldn't happen...happened..DAMN YOU LANA LANG RUINING THE POSSIBLE CLOIS MOMENT OF THE CENTURY *throws a brick at her*
Apart from that and umm...weird flying kung fu kicks I found her not so annoying, she seemed less whiney, more grown up, her and Clark had a adult conversation, and thankfully she even said that they were probably never meant to be togther.
Also what was good that when Clark came to help her after a piece of wood just slammed into her she told him to go, and I suppose although she's tempoarily (sp?) returned we can see that she's not going to hold him back from being the hero.

Now onto Doomsday, to be honest I think he looked bloody fantastic, considering their very small budget they did a terrific job! Although I feel he should maybe be a bit taller thats not much of a problem, to finally see something in smallville tearing a place apart was nice for some reason, and to see that Clark seemed a little scared himself, and his bewilderment when Doomsday stopped his punch. Although we didn't get a massive fight between the two I didn't really expect one, infact just to see Doomsday merely slap Clark across the barn was almost good enough, this showed that finally Clark has a real match and that Clark is alot more vunerable. Although it annoyed me that Kyrptonite stopped him, this show seems to always have unlikely amounts of the stuff :p
But Doomsday's introduction for me was a good one, complain all you like but I personally think we should be grateful to see Doomsday on our screens, whilst not being in a cartoon format.

The ending, well wow...the plot twists were more effective than Vader telling luke he was his father. :p
I liked seeing Doomsday carrying Chloe, and laying her down gently, it shows although his skin cannot be wounded, his heart can, and he's vunerable, and I think it's the break of his heart that will complete the future Doomsday, again I don't think people should complain about him being a bit lovey dovey, lets not forget he still has a small human side to him, and atleast in the ned, ultimately he will fall and become the monster.

And damn does Allison play bad good, first we have her killing that 'touch my hand' guy, and although her being layed down isn't very evil of her :p the smile she gives seems so evil in some way...we know Brainiac has her infected again, and personally I think she plays evil pretty well, she has the smile for it :p

The last scene though I wasn't too excited, I wasn't really hoping for Lex, sure he's Supermans number 1 bad guy, but I've gotten tired of him and only hope that it was some form of Brainiac..

This episode had small tiny flaws, but the episode it's self made you ignore those flaws and had you glued to the screen at all times. Loved it :D

(sorry for any spelling mistakes.)
P.S Allison looked beautiful!

sirconical
11-21-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm really, really, really surprised with this episode! This was probably the best episode of Smallville I've ever seen! I haven't felt like this about a Smallville episode since it was brand new and Clark was saving lives back in season 1!

Lois and Clark scenes were incredible with the best performances I've ever seen from Erica Durance. I didn't think it was possible for Lois to ever beat Chloe as a character in my eyes, but she's done it! I feel like I'm gushing so much, I could probably go on about everything in the episode, but I'm not going to, I'm going to rewatch it!

Super EJ
11-21-2008, 05:29 PM
This is my new fav of the season for far.
the ending gave me shivers.
You and me both!!!:\:eek:

xHerox
11-21-2008, 05:29 PM
I thought that there was quite a lot to like in this episode, and I am giving it a '9' for that reason. The budding romance between Lois and Clark, the portrayal of Doomsday, and the cliffhanger ending were all things that made this episode stand out as one of the season's best.

Unfortunately, I think that I may have gotten my hopes up just a bit much from last week's episode, this preview for this episode, and the absolutely amazing episode we got last time the show had a wedding ("Promise"). I can understand why some people wouldn't love this episode, but I really did and I am looking forward to the show's return in January!

ClLaLeChFAN01
11-21-2008, 05:33 PM
I feel like I've been a new exciting rollercoaster ride where they flip, spin, and twist me while going fast!!! I have no idea what is coming next and I cant wait for it!!!! This season has been really BOLD so far and Im loving every minute!!!! I've been watching Smallville since episode 1 and I would be thrilled with a season 9 but I will understand if they want to end it with this season!!!!!!

Ok....now that Im off this rollercoaster ride I need to find myself a trash can and go ride again!!!!!!

DontCha
11-21-2008, 05:43 PM
dude, lois knew she was in love before this, this is just the first time she's discussed it.

rep4clark
11-21-2008, 05:45 PM
the bride show live up to the hype.

Kal el of krypton
11-21-2008, 05:49 PM
I was actually abit dissapointed. I loved the episode and since i live in the UK i never watched it on thurs, i watched it on friday and was spoiled when i came on the forum lol i read a thread saying lex was alive and we see him at the end so i guess i was dissapointed when i didn't see his face and realised it wasn't MR. Also i know how smallville is so I wasn't hyped about a fight scene or anything between doomsday and clark.

This episode was good though. Since this was only the 10th episode and mid cliffhanger, we can hopefully expect future episodes to be even better than this one :-)

geminis
11-21-2008, 05:51 PM
I feel like I've been a new exciting rollercoaster ride where they flip, spin, and twist me while going fast!!! I have no idea what is coming next and I cant wait for it!!!! This season has been really BOLD so far and Im loving every minute!!!! I've been watching Smallville since episode 1 and I would be thrilled with a season 9 but I will understand if they want to end it with this season!!!!!!

Ok....now that Im off this rollercoaster ride I need to find myself a trash can and go ride again!!!!!!

First: :rotfl: You're brilliant! And I've been on the coaster ride with you the whole time and feel the same way. I never want to get off, but if they call done I will grudgingly and with no choice have to let them. But there will always be a part of me that still wants to ride again. Going to do so with Bride again now.

Malicieux Toutou
11-21-2008, 05:54 PM
but i was glad they grouped the episodes together with 10 in a row and that they gave an exact date for its return...makes it easier to watch IMO


Totall agree! If it was up to me they'd do like 24 and not start the season until January and then just have 20+ straight weeks of episodes

Vindellavon
11-21-2008, 05:56 PM
The end was perfect.

ClLaLeChFAN01
11-21-2008, 05:59 PM
Why thank you Geminis you are brilliant yourself!

geminis
11-21-2008, 06:01 PM
Aw shucks. But I am still waiting for hilarious brilliance in the form of Fallen One.

Vindellavon
11-21-2008, 06:25 PM
Epic!

pbush77
11-21-2008, 06:31 PM
... the smile she gives seems so evil in some way...we know Brainiac has her infected again

No, we don't. And I'm not buying that for a second. She's only just had her memories of Clark erased, no way will the writers then immediately re-infect her with Brainiac. It doesn't make any sense any way you look at it. She is merely hypnotized by Doomsday, that's how I see it. ;) They didn't want us to think that Doomsday was now having a weird relationship with an Artifical Intelligence. He loves Chloe, not Brainiac. The smile showed us that, for some reason, she has now fallen for him too... which I believe is some form of hypnotism.

Further, we have people in threads here saying that the "Lex" we saw is really Brainiac. Or that it's Lex's body now infected with Brainiac. Add this to the assumption that Chloe is now Brainiac again... what's going on here? Do we all have Brainiac on the brain or what? ;) Is he suddenly infecting the entire cast of Smallville at the same time???

Bottom line, will people please stop saying that we CLEARLY know that Chloe is Brainiac again? Because we don't clearly know that, and personally I don't believe it at all. :)

iluvSmallvilleandi'm24
11-21-2008, 06:40 PM
This episode was a 5 for me.

I felt that several aspects of the show were rushed namely:

- Davis turning into Doomsday: IMO should have occurred over several episodes and not just the one... He just discovers that he can't be killed, now all of a sudden he transforms?

- Lois loving Clark: OMG way too quickly, and IMO Durance's performance wasn't that convincing... I feel Smallville writers haven't dedicated enough time to this aspect of the Superman folklore.

Another aspect which i didn't like, although i congratulate the writers/directors for having a go, was that the episdoe was all too reminiscent of Cloverfield. Now Smallville has over the years, been guilty of, shall i say plagiarising movies and utilising their storylines in episodes (remember that Saw-like episode where Martha and Lionel were kidnapped). This episode unfortunately didn't pull it off.

And the whole lex thing at the end... Knowing that it couldn't have possibly been MR ruined it for me... Just seemed wierd

But oh well I look forward to Jan 15 and the Legion... Hopefully that will bring me :D

Violet-Shadow
11-21-2008, 06:51 PM
I was leaning toward a 9 but...I actually kind of liked Lana...so a likeable Lana pushes the episode to a 10 for me! :D

I loved the Clois, of course. The dance scene was SO intense but my favorite, of their scenes, was when Clark was watching her walk away at the hospital.

I also, unlike some others, loved the Chimmy. The wedding was so important to both of them; it's just too bad it had to be disrupted. Oh well, I will cling to their sweet moments... And remember a glowing Chloe! 'Cause Jimmy makes Chloe glow with happiness!!!

And this episode perfectly showcased how much both Lana and Clark have grown up. No longer are there wide-eyed, watery, love-sick looks between them. Yay! It looks like they're finally going to have some closure and a happy closure at that.

Now we just have to wait until January to see what happens next...

MetroGirl06
11-21-2008, 07:48 PM
10. Just freaking amazing. Doomsday, clois, Lana being interesting, the last couplke of minutes with the glimps of "Lex". I cannot freaking wait till January!

DontCha
11-21-2008, 07:52 PM
7.5 would have given it a 10 if they left out all the Lois/clois drama nonesence. Those parts really dragged the show.

Nope, its not nonsense, its important to the greater plot when it comes to clark and his destiny...how can it possibly be nonsense?

zodismygod
11-21-2008, 08:08 PM
wasn't the opening a direct rip off of cloverfield? I mean I know smallville has done that before in terms of copying movies but it seemed to blatant. what do you guys think? Otherwise great episode!

SuperGirlieMan
11-21-2008, 09:51 PM
I just wanted to say I have been a Smallville viewer and fan since the pilot episode but I think this is the first time I was taken aback how great this show can be when everyone from the production crews, the writers and actors just click. That's what happened last night. They clicked on all nine cylinders. I mean it was really that good. I guess I have always drawn my expectations of the show rather low over the last few years. We all know why. It just seemed that prior to this season the show was suffacating creatively and now they are finally allowed to breathe. The ratings are proof that people want this show to succeed when its good. I have been on many sites including Aint it Cool News in which its posters have always rediculed the show for years because of its mishandled storylines and characters. Now I'm seeing people who hated the show actually coming back and praise it. It's like this season has been a rebirth of some sort. I have to tell you I was extremely sceptical about this season when I heard that Doomsday was going to be a cast member and Lex Luthor would be gone. Boy, have I been surprised. I had no idea episodes like where even possible with characters acting like real people and not some sitcom or soap opera. Color me impressed. I think the one thing that stood out for me were the characters. All the actors really showed a range that was really quite enduring. Erica Durance was incredible. I have not seen an actor convey so much emotionally in a scene since Claudia Black portrayel of Aeryn Sun in Farscape years ago. In case any of you don't know what that is; believe me, that's damn good. I would not be surprised if she lands a Saturn Award nom for this season. It's certainly deserving. I thought her performance is emmy caliber but we all know Emmy noms are never giving out to genre shows which I was always thought was a crock. :mad: Another thing I liked about the episode was that the story was tight and that it actually took a logical course. At least for the most part. And I have to admit I have always been a fan of Lois Lane and Clark Kent's romantic journey. From the comics, the movies and even the Lois and Clark series of the 90's I have to admit being a closet Clois fan.:lol: I know what they're doing to them now has not been seen since the days of Dean Cain and Terry Hatcher, only with a more serious tone and decent sfx. If this can keep this type of quality up then I am confident that new stories that embrase the superman mythology are just beyond the horizon in season nine and unlike uncertainess of season eight that is something I am no longer sceptical of.

SteveS
11-21-2008, 09:56 PM
It was an excellent episode, but I am not familiar with a 9 cylinder vehicle.

davidbrenton
11-21-2008, 09:57 PM
Welcome aboard. This whole L&C Relationship started me posting since Committed. I agree with you 100%. Especially with your point about how the characters are becoming more REAL. It is sorta feeling Greys Anatomy real, where conversations are just so much more organic (Despite utilization of comic book type puns and references).

Glad we got a new cloiser as a new voice now.

We need em.

EternalTwilight
11-21-2008, 10:09 PM
Hi! This thread seems to be a good place to make my posting debut (sort of). Been lurking for some time here...

I loved the bittersweet feel of this episode. It was set up very well for the potential of the rest of this season. I've been a Clois fan since before Smallville and, to be honest, didn't really get into the show until Lois made her appearance. I can't wait to see what happens next. :)

redkryptoniteisthebest
11-21-2008, 10:13 PM
Indeed, this was an amazing episode. I was in so much shock, that I could nearly control myself! (Just kiddin!)

The PS3 really put their time into this episode and it showed. If this was just the mid-season finale, just imagine what the season finale is gonna be like!

Bre723
11-21-2008, 11:08 PM
So i think one of the reasons why i loved the last couple of scenes so much was really, because it reminded me the older smallville episodes.
the music really made the scene as well.
andother reason i iked it so much was because of lana.
no i'm not a hardcore clana/lana fan.
si i'm not bias, but it just felt right.
plus lex in the end.
we really had we really had four great elements going on, the first being the clark/lois scene, lane in the hospital scenez0with song, it just looked good), chloe and DD, and the the thing with lex(is assuming it's lex) in the end.
it just felt right and i can't stop watching it, and that's the first time that i am felt this way all season.
thank you PS3!

Nemesis_E13
11-22-2008, 03:11 AM
I normally don’t do the whole blog thing but since I have been watching the show for all 8 seasons, I had to chime in on this. I like Smallville but over the years I have noticed that there is this trend of building up an episode just for it end on an ant-climatic drop off. This is particularly true about what I call the “end action sequence.” This is basically where a new meteor freak is introduced at the beginning of the show that causes our Smallville crew to turn all Schooby to solve the mystery so Clark can swoop in at the end and save the day in some 10 second light speed, they never see me coming (or going) action scene. This was OK for the first few seasons but then the plots started to get better and villains got more complex and so the end action sequences started to evolve into good action/fight scenes. But it seems that ever since the finally of season 7 most of the “end action sequences” have devolved back to the early <ST1:pHigh School</ST1:place days.
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They have been building up the Dooms Day thing all season and when it happens it fizzed out in 10 seconds. No fight, no exchange of punches just a Dooms Day brush off of Clark and WTF is up with that party favor green kryptonite floating around the barn. You would think that after 8 years he would keep it locked up with the space rocket. I don’t ask for allot from this show because it’s pretty good but it’s like the writers sometimes deflate a situation on purpose. That just p****’s me off beyond belief. How many episodes have been ruined by the fact that Clark is about to take it to meteor freak of weak only for the whole scenario to melodramatically be thown out of whack because there are kryptonite accessories planted in the room. This crap is old and out lived its usefulness as a tool to bring suspense to an episode. This is freaking Doom Day here. I would have preferred to see DD give Clark the beat down then get away with the girl but green K in barn….. I think writers were on Special K when they wrote that part. Its one thing to encounter K when you are going after the meteor infected but in his own barn; give me a break. But I digress….
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Before the end of the show, I thought the whole episode was nicely filmed. I loved the whole Lois and Clark vibe. It was great. Lana kind of annoyed me but I thought is was interesting twist when she showed up at the wedding. It appears that they are finally going to put the Clark and Lana chapter to rest (better late than never).
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skizzo
11-22-2008, 03:20 AM
I gave it a 6. I thought the whole episode was boring up until the last 15 minutes.
Watching Clois is like watching a train wreck, no chemistry at all there. Lana comes back and tries to be cold, and even when they're being dismissive of each other (mostly on Lana's part), they still have a lot more chemistry and connection in a scene together. The Clois dance seemed really forced, nothing on the Spirit dance.
I basically FF through all the Lois scenes, she really came off badly in this weeks episode, get over youself please.
Chloe is the bride, and we get just a few scenes with her. Might as well call the episode Bridesmaid. I thought she looked great, and I cant wait to see what will happen to her.
Finally, KK returns , she still looks gorgeous, shame about the awful extensions. It was a breath of fresh air watching her scenes. I like how she came back with an attitude, compare her to Lois who was acting like a teenager with a crush that wasnt corresponded. Lana fu still rocks, and the Clana scenes were well acted. I could tell that if Lana wasnt dismissive of Clark, he would've started it over with her, he definitely still loves her and would still want to be with her. Since Lana "apparently" doesnt, that's how he'll eventually move on to Lois. Although imo, Lana does still love Clark and wants to be with him, but for some reason she has to be dismissive of him. I think we'll find out soon why. I thought her real feelings of him came through when she asked Ollie how he was doing, you could see how emotional she was, KK does these scenes really well.

All in all, average episode, only worth watching for KK and the Clana scenes. Shame we only had 1 Chlana scene (which lasted like 2 seconds). Doomsday was quite entertaining I must admit :lol:

Fractured
11-22-2008, 06:20 AM
You must agree that, this episode had everything.

It had a wedding, ending in tragedy (classic Hollywood).

It had the comeback of the individual artist songs (Don't take your love away - Vast), instead of always Mark Snow (Great composer none the less).

It had the return of Lana (which, some people wont like), It had basic closure on the Clana relationship.

It had a powerful Clois moment.

We saw Lex (what everyone would assume is lex) at the very end.

It had a monster (lol).

It had tragedy.

Not to mention the cross between Cloverfield style shooting, and a monster that instantly reminds you of the Super Shreder from the original Ninja Turtles movie.

And too many other things to mention. Good to see the producers/writers have really picked up their game and gone (somewhat) back to what made the older seasons so brilliant.

All in all, Beautiful episode. 5/5 :D

mrw66855
11-22-2008, 06:39 AM
I gave it a 10. In my opinion, it was nice to see an episode without a lot of special effects and just storyline and acting. That being said, the acting in this episode was off the charts. Everyone did an amazing job, especially ED, and TW. I actually liked lana . I was scared when she was going to come back. And what that would do to Clark but the writers are handling that really well. And the writing in this episode was incredible as well. It made sense, it was a lot more like normal conversation, and they also explained where Lois is going to be for the next four episodes (in Star city with Jimmy). I was not too thrilled ending scene (maybe because I kind of already had a feeling Chloe would be infected with brainiac, again, and everybody knows that they cannot kill lex off). I love the scenes between Clark and Oliver, and Oliver and lana . Clark is really showing why he is a true leader of the Justice league and the man of justice. I loved how lana understands Clark's purpose now. "To walk the path of justice we have to be a little more like Clark" (or something like that). I hope Oliver starts listening to Clark and taking his advice. But like I said before, it was nice to see an episode with not a lot of special effects and just solo acting. A 10 out of 10 for me.

Liarma
11-22-2008, 06:45 AM
i thought it fell short of the hype

definitely, i honestly expected alot more

Tricky
11-22-2008, 07:48 AM
Personally i felt that this episode is the new benchmark for the season, definately my favourite so far, purely because so much happened. ;)

Tatiana
11-22-2008, 08:40 AM
wowI can finally post here lol that night the server was so busy I just couldn't post at all. I loved it, it was an episode full of action and emotion. I felt sad for every character, I didn't like to see Jimmy getting hurt, I felt bad for Davis when he was transforming, I felt very sad for Lois when she was talking to Oliver, although hopeful because of what he said :) I thought she acted very mature, I even felt sad for Lana but proud of her attitude, she seems like a woman now, not a whinny girl. I liked when Clark made sure being there for Chloe was priority, also loved the way he acted with Lois, so sexy especially when he grabbed her to dance. His facial expressions were amazing, even when he looked all confused about seeing Lana, he acted mature too when they were talking, he seemed to agree with what Lana was saying even though he was kinda hurt at the beginning. Loved how Chloe looked, so beautiful and happy, she looked so scared too when Doomsday appeared, I wanted to save her. Doomsday was awesome, he freaked me out, I wonder if that was part make up on Davis and part CGI, anyway the episode rocked and I can't wait until Jan 15th. OH the ending still has me puzzled, I don't know who that is, at first I was convinced it was Lex, but after the things I have read, I am not so sure now....

Vindellavon
11-22-2008, 08:48 AM
Finally, a change for the better. Kudos writers. For once.

scifigirl
11-22-2008, 09:03 AM
I gave it a 6. I thought the whole episode was boring up until the last 15 minutes.
Watching Clois is like watching a train wreck, no chemistry at all there. Lana comes back and tries to be cold, and even when they're being dismissive of each other (mostly on Lana's part), they still have a lot more chemistry and connection in a scene together. The Clois dance seemed really forced, nothing on the Spirit dance.
I basically FF through all the Lois scenes, she really came off badly in this weeks episode, get over youself please.
Chloe is the bride, and we get just a few scenes with her. Might as well call the episode Bridesmaid. I thought she looked great, and I cant wait to see what will happen to her.
Finally, KK returns , she still looks gorgeous, shame about the awful extensions. It was a breath of fresh air watching her scenes. I like how she came back with an attitude, compare her to Lois who was acting like a teenager with a crush that wasnt corresponded. Lana fu still rocks, and the Clana scenes were well acted. I could tell that if Lana wasnt dismissive of Clark, he would've started it over with her, he definitely still loves her and would still want to be with her. Since Lana "apparently" doesnt, that's how he'll eventually move on to Lois. Although imo, Lana does still love Clark and wants to be with him, but for some reason she has to be dismissive of him. I think we'll find out soon why. I thought her real feelings of him came through when she asked Ollie how he was doing, you could see how emotional she was, KK does these scenes really well.

All in all, average episode, only worth watching for KK and the Clana scenes. Shame we only had 1 Chlana scene (which lasted like 2 seconds). Doomsday was quite entertaining I must admit :lol:

I have to agree. While I have enjoyed the Clois this season because we got a break from the angst, Kristen and Tom ring truer and they proved once again how great they are together. I thought all the character interactions in this episode were great. However, I am going to give it an 8 and deduct points for a really lame non-fight and Clark getting owned.

superhippie2000
11-22-2008, 09:09 AM
Personally i felt that this episode is the new benchmark for the season, definately my favourite so far, purely because so much happened. ;)
ya i agree. this episode seems like it can make the rest of the season awesome :D and it left us wanting more cause it left so much open. and the fact they had a creature on the show that didnt even look close to human for the first time was just awesome. it relly felt as if it could of been a season finale to me. although if it was i would of hoped for a bit more action lol.

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I have to agree. While I have enjoyed the Clois this season because we got a break from the angst, Kristen and Tom ring truer and they proved once again how great they are together. I thought all the character interactions in this episode were great. However, I am going to give it an 8 and deduct points for a really lame non-fight and Clark getting owned.
ya i was hoping for a better fight too but maybe we werent ment to get one yet. maybe the fact that clark got owned was to show him that doomsday is much harder to fight off then he expected. last week when clark talked to jor el he acted like he would be able to take on the doomsday threat cause he said he will face it as he did with everything else. but then when he went to block doomsday he did it like he would anything else and just a little tap from doomsday sent him flying. hopefully it makes him realize that he was wrong about facing this like everything else and he really needs to make himself stronger. titan was his strongest foe and it took everything he got to defeat him and doomsday is much stronger. sure brainiac and bizarro are bigger villians but brainiac is a puzzle solver and not much of a fighter and bizarro is just as strong as any other kryptonian. guess only time will tell but by the season finale im sure we will get an epic battle.

Doomsday666
11-22-2008, 09:30 AM
I gave a 10 it was a great episode.

All the actors and actress did a great job.

Doomsday looked good for a TV show but wouldnt do good in a movie. Alot better job was done on him, then say any SCI-FI channel movie monsters, the Black fog/smoke & even the old school power ranger monsters. But he did remind of old school power rangers when I watched it when I was younger, the part was the small two second fight scene with clark and Jimmy. When he talked he reminded me of the aliens in Indepence Day, which was pretty cool.

The only part I didnt like or he looked weird was his face shot in the infected FOS. Either the camera was too close for my liking or it was the lighting. Lastly Im still hoping they dont make him a love sick monster. Right now their find were its at but if they push it any farther im gonna be disapointed.

The only parts I found completely redic was the Rent-A-Cop not running when he had the chance. If it was me I would have gotten my ass out of there. Same goes for the dumbass camera man. Was he thinking he was going ro get good wishes from doomsday to put on camera? Or did he want him to "Ring the Bell"? For their stupidity they got what they deserved.

Lastly, WHERE THE HELL IS SHELBY. I love that dog. What season did that dog even come in?

Hippolyta
11-22-2008, 09:34 AM
I gave it a 6. I thought the whole episode was boring up until the last 15 minutes.
Watching Clois is like watching a train wreck, no chemistry at all there. Lana comes back and tries to be cold, and even when they're being dismissive of each other (mostly on Lana's part), they still have a lot more chemistry and connection in a scene together. The Clois dance seemed really forced, nothing on the Spirit dance.

Whaaaaat? I truly don't understand this. Their chemistry was setting my tv screen on fire! IMO they've had chemistry from their first episode together. I agree that Clark and Lana do still have a connection, but thats to be expected isn't it? And the dance was awkward, but I think thats because of all that UST:D.

6-Super-Man -5
11-22-2008, 09:39 AM
Whaaaaat? I truly don't understand this. Their chemistry was setting my tv screen on fire! IMO they've had chemistry from their first episode together. I agree that Clark and Lana do still have a connection, but thats to be expected isn't it? And the dance was awkward, but I think thats because of all that UST:D.

Kinda off-topic but... Nice avatar! :p

superhippie2000
11-22-2008, 09:43 AM
I gave a 10 it was a great episode.

All the actors and actress did a great job.

Doomsday looked good for a TV show but wouldnt do good in a movie. Alot better job was done on him, then say any SCI-FI channel movie monsters, the Black fog/smoke & even the old school power ranger monsters. But he did remind of old school power rangers when I watched it when I was younger, the part was the small two second fight scene with clark and Jimmy. When he talked he reminded me of the aliens in Indepence Day, which was pretty cool.

The only part I didnt like or he looked weird was his face shot in the infected FOS. Either the camera was too close for my liking or it was the lighting. Lastly Im still hoping they dont make him a love sick monster. Right now their find were its at but if they push it any farther im gonna be disapointed.

The only parts I found completely redic was the Rent-A-Cop not running when he had the chance. If it was me I would have gotten my ass out of there. Same goes for the dumbass camera man. Was he thinking he was going ro get good wishes from doomsday to put on camera? Or did he want him to "Ring the Bell"? For their stupidity they got what they deserved.

Lastly, WHERE THE HELL IS SHELBY. I love that dog. What season did that dog even come in?
ya i agree great for tv but bad for a movie. a movie would of been cgi and probably look like abomination from the incredible hulk. ya sci fi probably would of made him look fake. most of there monsters seem more like indy films where they shoot it for like a thousand bucks. lol.

ya the fortress scene was cool but looked weird. he kind of looked like the creature in jeepers creepers where his face thingys were caving into his face when he went into hibranation lol.

ya well most situations in tv and movies make people stupid lol. its like run dang it run lol. a normal person would of ran once the dude started growing spikes out of his hands lol. and the camera guy was like the guy in cloverfield. wow its a monster im just going to stand here looking at it oh no its going to eat me ahhhhhhh lol. but ya doomsday could of atleast said something nice to the bride and groom before he took her a way. what a jerk lol :lol:

where was shelby? shelby was ment to be the doomsday alarm lol. hes been the alarm when brainiac arrived and the alarm when brainiacs ship was hoving over smallville lol. shelby first came in mid season 4. wow cant believe its been like 4 years we have had shelby with a totaly screen time of only 12 episodes probably lol. poor dog.

6-Super-Man -5
11-22-2008, 09:45 AM
Episode was awesome, but I can't decide right now.
We'll have to wait for later episodes and Season Nine.

Doomsday666
11-22-2008, 09:56 AM
ya i agree great for tv but bad for a movie. a movie would of been cgi and probably look like abomination from the incredible hulk. ya sci fi probably would of made him look fake. most of there monsters seem more like indy films where they shoot it for like a thousand bucks. lol.

ya the fortress scene was cool but looked weird. he kind of looked like the creature in jeepers creepers where his face thingys were caving into his face when he went into hibranation lol.

ya well most situations in tv and movies make people stupid lol. its like run dang it run lol. a normal person would of ran once the dude started growing spikes out of his hands lol. and the camera guy was like the guy in cloverfield. wow its a monster im just going to stand here looking at it oh no its going to eat me ahhhhhhh lol. but ya doomsday could of atleast said something nice to the bride and groom before he took her a way. what a jerk lol :lol:

where was shelby? shelby was ment to be the doomsday alarm lol. hes been the alarm when brainiac arrived and the alarm when brainiacs ship was hoving over smallville lol. shelby first came in mid season 4. wow cant believe its been like 4 years we have had shelby with a totaly screen time of only 12 episodes probably lol. poor dog.
Really only 12 episodes, maybe thats why i didnt remember. I guess that shelby didnt do a good job in protecting/warning clark about Doomsday coming:lol:

But I gotta say I loved when jimmy got hurt. Look thats more stupidity, I'm gonna hit you with a 2x4 and see if it will stop you.:rotfl:

superhippie2000
11-22-2008, 10:12 AM
Really only 12 episodes, maybe thats why i didnt remember. I guess that shelby didnt do a good job in protecting/warning clark about Doomsday coming:lol:

But I gotta say I loved when jimmy got hurt. Look thats more stupidity, I'm gonna hit you with a 2x4 and see if it will stop you.:rotfl:
maybe more then 12 but ya shelby seems to only be in 3 episodes a season :(

maybe doomsday pulled a bone off his face and gave it to shelby as a way to gain his trust and not bark lol.

ya i found that funny too. oh no its a giant alien thing that shook the earth as it walked i bet this peice of wood can stop him lol. i never get people in superhero movies. like with superman they shoot him knowing the bullets wouldnt do anything. the cops would be richer if they didnt waaste all the money on bullets to stop an evil superman lol.

Doomsday666
11-22-2008, 10:41 AM
maybe more then 12 but ya shelby seems to only be in 3 episodes a season :(

maybe doomsday pulled a bone off his face and gave it to shelby as a way to gain his trust and not bark lol.

ya i found that funny too. oh no its a giant alien thing that shook the earth as it walked i bet this peice of wood can stop him lol. i never get people in superhero movies. like with superman they shoot him knowing the bullets wouldnt do anything. the cops would be richer if they didnt waaste all the money on bullets to stop an evil superman lol.
That would be funny if he did give shelby a bone. Shelby is a taitor to clark:rotfl:

I guess intelligence and Superhero shows/movies dont go hand in hand with each other:lol: That can explain why I feel clark and has been an complete idiot this whole season. I bet he wouldnt be able to put 2 + 2 together to equal 4.

Just think about it. Clark had all the information he needed to find out davis was attacking people in Prey. Davis was covered in blood, blackouts and Davis's skin samble underneath the victims nails but clark decided to blam all on the shadow kid because he attack Davis. How much more stupid could he get?:lol:

geminis
11-22-2008, 10:46 AM
I just wanted to say I have been a Smallville viewer and fan since the pilot episode but I think this is the first time I was taken aback how great this show can be when everyone from the production crews, the writers and actors just click. That's what happened last night. They clicked on all nine cylinders. I mean it was really that good. I guess I have always drawn my expectations of the show rather low over the last few years. We all know why. It just seemed that prior to this season the show was suffacating creatively and now they are finally allowed to breathe. The ratings are proof that people want this show to succeed when its good. I have been on many sites including Aint it Cool News in which its posters have always rediculed the show for years because of its mishandled storylines and characters. Now I'm seeing people who hated the show actually coming back and praise it. It's like this season has been a rebirth of some sort. I have to tell you I was extremely sceptical about this season when I heard that Doomsday was going to be a cast member and Lex Luthor would be gone. Boy, have I been surprised. I had no idea episodes like where even possible with characters acting like real people and not some sitcom or soap opera. Color me impressed. I think the one thing that stood out for me were the characters. All the actors really showed a range that was really quite enduring. Erica Durance was incredible. I have not seen an actor convey so much emotionally in a scene since Claudia Black portrayel of Aeryn Sun in Farscape years ago. In case any of you don't know what that is; believe me, that's damn good. I would not be surprised if she lands a Saturn Award nom for this season. It's certainly deserving. I thought her performance is emmy caliber but we all know Emmy noms are never giving out to genre shows which I was always thought was a crock. :mad: Another thing I liked about the episode was that the story was tight and that it actually took a logical course. At least for the most part. And I have to admit I have always been a fan of Lois Lane and Clark Kent's romantic journey. From the comics, the movies and even the Lois and Clark series of the 90's I have to admit being a closet Clois fan.:lol: I know what they're doing to them now has not been seen since the days of Dean Cain and Terry Hatcher, only with a more serious tone and decent sfx. If this can keep this type of quality up then I am confident that new stories that embrase the superman mythology are just beyond the horizon in season nine and unlike uncertainess of season eight that is something I am no longer sceptical of.

I so agree with you about Erica, comparing her to the incredible Claudia Black as Aeryn Sun. Hope you're right about the Saturn award too. Unfortunately, I know you are right about Emmy. :mad: :\

GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
11-22-2008, 10:47 AM
I voted 6. I liked the episode until all the angst came in....

like when Lana showed up and Clark's like, "ew Lois, I love you, but she's LANA!" That was so stupid. I wish Lana hadn't shown up really. Clark accepted his destiny because Lana left, now he's going to regress. At least she was shoo-ing him away though.

I didn't like all the relationship junk because I don't watch this show for drama or whatever you want to call it. If I wanted that much of relationship angst I would watch the O.C. or One Tree Hill or something else....

why did Doomsday have to go and ruin Chloe's wedding? what a turd. So much bad stuff happens to Chloe, wish she could've just had a nice, normal wedding

I like Ollie and Lois talking and I like the Clois and the wedding when it was nice, before the destruction.

geminis
11-22-2008, 10:50 AM
Hi! This thread seems to be a good place to make my posting debut (sort of). Been lurking for some time here...

I loved the bittersweet feel of this episode. It was set up very well for the potential of the rest of this season. I've been a Clois fan since before Smallville and, to be honest, didn't really get into the show until Lois made her appearance. I can't wait to see what happens next. :)

Welcome out of the shadows. Bittersweet is absolutely the right word. I always liked the show, but Lois imho has elevated it. What happens next is guaranteed to be exciting, I know that much.

superhippie2000
11-22-2008, 11:00 AM
That would be funny if he did give shelby a bone. Shelby is a taitor to clark:rotfl:

I guess intelligence and Superhero shows/movies dont go hand in hand with each other:lol: That can explain why I feel clark and has been an complete idiot this whole season. I bet he wouldnt be able to put 2 + 2 together to equal 4.

Just think about it. Clark had all the information he needed to find out davis was attacking people in Prey. Davis was covered in blood, blackouts and Davis's skin samble underneath the victims nails but clark decided to blam all on the shadow kid because he attack Davis. How much more stupid could he get?:lol:
i think superheroes sometimes need to be stuppid cause they dont want to make any mistakes lol. plus it would end everything so easy. i mean clark could go back in time and kill zods parents so if zod was never born there would be no doomsday lol. and like superman always has the chance to kill lex and get rid of him but then if there is no lex superman would just be some weirdo flying around in a cape lol. like horror movies yuou know the killer is in the closet but you go in anyways. if you didnt go in it will just be a 2 hour movie about some dude with a knife sitting in a closet lol. so somtimes character stupidity is what keeps the plot going :\ lol

Harrison_Bergeron
11-22-2008, 11:08 AM
I gave it a 7, it was good compared to previous seasons, like all the episodes this season have been, but probably the worst epi of the season eight.

The episode was hyped as being the Doomsday episode and the wedding episode, there was no wedding, and only seconds of Doomsday 45 minutes in.

The step up to Lois liking Clark was totally forced, and it looks like it was only done so so they could pull it away at the end.

What we saw of Doomsday was really awesome, I think they should give him a tad more lighting. I know that the darkness is more forgiving to a venture like this, but it looks like they did a good enough job that they could get away with showing off more of his face. If someone on K-site hadn't posted a pic of what the comic book DD looked like I would have had no clue what I was looking at.

Newb
11-22-2008, 11:18 AM
That is hands down 1 of the best episodes i've seen in a while doomsday was everything i expected & more the clois moments were awesome the episodeas a whole was perfect i jus cant wait until the inevitible battle between clark & doomsday. GO DOOMSDAY!!!:lol:

He doesnt kill Superman for a while (as per the comic books). The JL will likely help Clark and Doomsday will go into hiding for a while.

May
11-22-2008, 11:24 AM
wasn't the opening a direct rip off of cloverfield? I mean I know smallville has done that before in terms of copying movies but it seemed to blatant. what do you guys think? Otherwise great episode!

that´s exactly what I thought...

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It was a very good ep.. a 9 for me...
I was just waiting to see more guest stars.. mrs. kent or pete? or someone else from the past...

lifelovedestiny
11-22-2008, 11:30 AM
I gave it a 9.

The Clois parts were amazing!!! Took my breath away. But everything else could have been better. I didn't like how they did the beginning with the 8 hours earlier, not the best I've seen that done. Also, Lana coming back really ruined it for me. It brought me down, and mad me soo sad. But like I said I thought the Clois scenes were superb, the dancing scene was beautiful, and I really liked the song that was playing. Also, the end was sweet when Lois was telling Clark she was going to Star City with Jimmy, Clark really looked sad.

HeartChakraBabe
11-22-2008, 12:09 PM
I can't even vote at this point. There were things I liked and things I hated, and right now I'm just not sure how I feel about the episode. I need to watch it again. Maybe that'll give me better perspective and then I can get my thoughts in order enough to decide. :\

Doomsday666
11-22-2008, 12:13 PM
i think superheroes sometimes need to be stuppid cause they dont want to make any mistakes lol. plus it would end everything so easy. i mean clark could go back in time and kill zods parents so if zod was never born there would be no doomsday lol. and like superman always has the chance to kill lex and get rid of him but then if there is no lex superman would just be some weirdo flying around in a cape lol. like horror movies yuou know the killer is in the closet but you go in anyways. if you didnt go in it will just be a 2 hour movie about some dude with a knife sitting in a closet lol. so somtimes character stupidity is what keeps the plot going :\ lol
True and I hate when the point out the obvious or they think they can get away with thinks in episodes and they dont think people will notice them.:\

But still the stupidity of these characters in this season of smallville is completely hallarius :lol:

jennyflang01
11-22-2008, 12:44 PM
I gave the episode a 8.Here's what I like the most about it:

I liked the idea of the video footage for the teaser. It was very Blair Witch project and made the whole Doomsday debacle very creepy. The last few seconds showing Lex all wired up and watching the wedding's footage was really creepy as well. It was awesome too.
However, in spite of all these great mythology related storylines, my attention was more focused on the relationships....

I loved Clois in this episode. At first, I was really skeptical about the potential kiss. I didn't think it was really realistic since Lois & Clark haven't really fully fallen for each other yet.
But Lois' vulnerability throughout the episode was heart wrenching. Lois is usually a tough cookie, very proud. Seeing her so confused made me realize that her feelings for him are probably very deep and strong. Otherwise, she wouldn't allow herself to be all vulnerable around Clark.
Clark has show less feelings towards her in the past episode of the season so it was great that he finally looked at her differently and thought about the "what ifs".

There was an unspoken truth between these two! Deep down, they already know it's there but it's not fully conscious yet. Anyway, sparks were flying all around. Erica was playing it all SO well. Everything was said through stares. The chemistry between Erican & Tom was wonderful!

I loved Clana in this episode a well. It was SO great to see KK again. I was really looking forward to that and I wasn't disappointed. KK is as beautiful as always! I was a bit worried about the wig but they did a great job and she's looked fantastic!
Kristin & Tom chemistry was at its best as always and I think it's amazing after all these years...Just put these two in the room and magic appears! :)
The look on Lana face when Clark start speaking to her in the barn is priceless. The stares, the attitudes, ...everything was perfect. There is so much history between them, their talk was really tense. They've grown so much since Season 1.
Lana put distance between them to keep Clark from taking care of her all the time. Even during Bride, he was trying to protect her. It seems like he sees her as something very fragile. And she doesn't want this cause she knows it prevents him from being Clark the superhero....I'm still worried about where Lana stands these days. She says she's in a place that feels right but what's up with the text and the Cuba underground activity. At least, it seems she really does everything she can to protect Clark. I can't wait to learn more about what she's been up to.

Bottom line, the Clark/Lana/Lois triangle was simply subtle and awesome. Clark needs to deal with Lana and it seems that Lois is willing to wait.

On a side note, Chloe looked so great and seemed so happy in love with Jimmy. It still weird to think that Chloe will never be Clark's sidekick anymore. What she said about being relieved from a huge weight was really meaningful in that sense. After all these years, it's really sad but she seems on cloud 9 (btw, I was wondering if she still had the healing ability?) I hope her kidnapping won't have too many consequences on her future life...

Can't wait for Jan 15!!!!

redkryptoniteisthebest
11-22-2008, 12:46 PM
9.5/10

I would have given it a 10, but there wasn't enough Doomsday!

redRound
11-22-2008, 12:54 PM
6/10 - The first half was boring, I wasn't into Chloe's wedding at all, but things picked up once Oliver arrived. His scenes with Lana and Clark were good. Doomsday was also good, though not as spectacular as I'd hoped.

My favourite bits were all the nods to Lex. The note on the mannequin, Lana receiving the text, and then Lex at the end.

Sue Denim
11-22-2008, 01:15 PM
This episode was a huge disappointment, but didn't have as much fail in it was I was expecting. 5/10

I'm really upset you had Clark say that Chloe's mind-wipe was a wedding gift. Just wow. A!!hole much there Clark!

I was actually happy Lana was sort of upset with the idea, if it had been her and not Chloe. I'm thinking this story will be better when it resumes on Jan 15th. Like most 2 parters, it's hard to judge one half without the other.

petitemimi
11-22-2008, 01:23 PM
I gave it a 6. Not enough action and Doomsday. That episode was disappointing to me because it felt like a lot of shipping stuff and once again, Clark is just tossed from one woman to the other. So, it's all UST with Lois, and then he drops her the moment Doomlana comes in. Can we have a clue of what Clark is feeling? No, because then, it wouldn't be open to shippers interpretation. It seems that he's only an accessory to the various ships. I dare to hope that ps3 will have the b*lls to show Clark choose for once; and not cater to all the shipping groups. They're throwing Clark on a slippery slope of regressing him and it doesn't have to be that way.

So, enough with weddings, dancing and Clana mushy stuff and get the action going with Clark! I usually like Septien and Meyer because they write action episodes; they should stick to that.

shawn316
11-22-2008, 01:38 PM
First dud of season 8. This season has got Smallville back on track, and in one episode, they(writers) potentially are up to their old bad habits...OVER COMPLICATING THINGS. I really loved the direction this season was going, especially Clark centered, but I can't help but being worried with all the subplots introduced in this episode:

-Lana's more and more complicated character(Why couldn't they have left as a small town girl and Clark first love?)

-Lex back???and how is this going to play into the rest of the season?

-writers hitting the fast forward button on Lois & Clark. Hastily done IMHO...and yes I know, it's been building for 4 seasons, but it seemed like a very light-switch moment.

-A complicated Doomsday character(this is same problem I have with the Hulk)

-Doomsday/Chloe/Brainiac relationship.

I'm sure I missed something else, but was a lot to add in one episode, especially considering that there could possibly be only 12 or so episodes left in the show.

Fly by guy
11-22-2008, 02:01 PM
Gave it my first 10 of the season. I'm so glad they didn't feel it up with Chimmy and very thankful the Doomsday time was held to a minimum. I like how they ended his scene with Chloe. Does that mean we finally see Brainiac come January?

Glad to see Lois "acting like a girl".

chluv4ever
11-22-2008, 03:14 PM
My thoughts on bride have already been expressed, so i decided to express mine in a video.
Like many have said upthread, Lois is SWFing Chloe bigtime, Davis is practically a walking mirror of Clark. Its strange that although Chloe is a nobody who is not important to MYTHOS or ICONCITY, she is involved in the storyline of the Hero and the Villian. why? What about my Lois, what is she doing? em...love.. "she's SWFing 15 years old Chloe," yikes that hurts.

Also did anyone notice (not sure if already mentioned), Chloe at the barn in her wedding dress before she called herself Bride of Frankentain, she was standing still (like a computer/ robot on sleep mode) backing the mirror, she looked totally blank, until Lois came in. You can't tell me brainiac was not in her then. Chloiac must have been pretending, waiting for the right time to fully emerge. Well check out the vid, thanks.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UVV9Sno_H58

alejandrita439
11-22-2008, 03:20 PM
i loved a lot this episode..

the clois scenes... :D:D
the clois almost kiss :)
chloe looked amazing... i love her dress
doomsday :O
lex
so lana is working with someone?? unexpected :)

i gave it a 10

CK&CK
11-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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POSTERS: CK&CK and topping82,

I can appreciate your dissapointment with the way the show has been going lately. I can even appreciate the criticisms. However, to bash the show the way you have on a fan based website is (in the eyes of a TRUE fan) naieve, iggnorant, and unacceptable. It's been clear from day 1 that Smallville would carve it's own notch in the Superman lore and how it plays out. So as a regular viewer, you except these things and enjoy the show. Also, if your criticism list is as detailed and pissy-long as you'res was; you just don't watch the show. Go follow the mainstream and watch survivor or some crap like that. It's also been stated that "they" don't know if they'll get a ninth season, so naturally the show storylines are gonna move along quite a bit faster. Again, as a fan you either except it and enjoy it, or change the station and watch something else. This is all just common sense. Honestly, I don't mind criticsm, but to read it at the extent you both bashed it at with such ignorance of how the show is being run now seemed a bit much to swallow. END OF QUOTE
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Hey, I do change the station, or pop in something a little less cheesey...when it's called for. And if you like this season....that's fine....you're not alone....and that's just people being honest about how they feel.....but there are also a lot of fans that are not as satisfied with it as you are.....and they're not alone either.....in fact, over the last few years.....a good number of them have followed your less than original suggeston of alternate entertainment.

You know, you probably are better off hitting the ignore button rather than have someone lie about their personal opinion and blow smoke up where the sun don't shine......just to make someone happy. Because just as you've got the right to talk about what you love about this show.....I've got as much right to say what I dislike about it. I mean we wouldn't want TPTB to get an inaccurate or skewed view of how "ALL" the fans feel about the show......but then again.....maybe TPTB love having a good smoke.

Harrison_Bergeron
11-22-2008, 03:23 PM
I just remembered another stupid moment, Oliver picks up a note off the mannequin that is very clearly written in 100% feminine hand writing, and then Lana Lang is in the room and he sees nothing suspicious about that coincidence. Plus, Green Arrow's amazing disguise, the one that protects his true identity and keeps him and his loved ones safe from evil doers while off the clock- was removed with a single kick.

La Donna
11-22-2008, 03:25 PM
I'm going with the polls again. At this point, just over 50% gave this episode a 10. If you add in the votes of 8 and 9, that's a total of just over 84-85% rated this episode as highly positive. That says a lot about the characters and story line.

I think the Clois was the set-up they needed for Lois's absence and the change their relationship will take when she returns. Like so many have said, she'll come back guarded and sarcastic, and Clark will be the one to start chasing her. He's a slow learner, so he needed a big time sign that she feels the same way (which he got in Bride) and then he needs awhile to process this and decide to go for it (which is what will happen in episodes 11-14). Since Oliver knows how Lois feels, and I think Lana will have an inkling, we have two characters that we know will be in some of those episodes who will be able to discuss this with Clark. Add in a mention from the Legion (although that probably won't happen, but I'm really hoping we get at least a vague shout-out), and the Clark who shows up in episode 15 will be the predator and Lois won't even know that she's the prey.

alejandrita439
11-22-2008, 04:01 PM
agree with Calvin
i really really loved this episode:)
it was awesome

melissan02
11-22-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm going with the polls again. At this point, just over 50% gave this episode a 10. If you add in the votes of 8 and 9, that's a total of just over 84-85% rated this episode as highly positive. That says a lot about the characters and story line.

I think the Clois was the set-up they needed for Lois's absence and the change their relationship will take when she returns. Like so many have said, she'll come back guarded and sarcastic, and Clark will be the one to start chasing her. He's a slow learner, so he needed a big time sign that she feels the same way (which he got in Bride) and then he needs awhile to process this and decide to go for it (which is what will happen in episodes 11-14). Since Oliver knows how Lois feels, and I think Lana will have an inkling, we have two characters that we know will be in some of those episodes who will be able to discuss this with Clark. Add in a mention from the Legion (although that probably won't happen, but I'm really hoping we get at least a vague shout-out), and the Clark who shows up in episode 15 will be the predator and Lois won't even know that she's the prey.
I like the idea of Clark chasing her a bit, but it does concern me.

I think Clark has some major fixing to do upon Lois' return. She'll be back stronger and determined for sure. I just hope we don't have wasted time with Lois and Clark and no romance between them.
Yes, I know Lois apparently falls for Superman first (in mythos), but since TW won't wear the suit and this hero remains a "red/blue blur", I don't think this should mean that Lois and CLARK won't have some romance.
ED and TW are far too talented and have far too much chemistry for it to be wasted on having Lois falling for some faceless "red/blue blur"!!!!:mad:

febo
11-22-2008, 05:09 PM
Yes, like in the Kubrik's movies (if you allow) I really appreciated in this episode the attention for details and symbolism: the color of Lois's dress (orange, not red), Lois's pure and crystal eyes, clark's silences (very uncomfortable: I often thought "please say something, whatever, but please say something"), Lois's fatal hesitation before the almost kiss, the message on Lana's bb (whos the sender?), the double role of Ollie (he makes Lana come; he makes Lois realize), the violation of wedding tradition, wedding and doomsday (tragically together), the final Vast's soundtrack, Lois's "what if", maybe Clark's sense of guiltiness and somewhat of impotence... Cloe's scary and creepy smile, the needle chilly absence/death of Jor-El (the father) and with that the death of any safe "deus ex machina" (moviemakingly speaking) and the beginning of son's mission who embraces his calling (Kal-El) , the mere back of Lex (?) watching a video (like the architect?)

I loved that and I definitely was expecting to have an episode like that: they need to leave people suspended and anxious and eager beaver (next episode on January! I dont know how I can live without SV for so long... I believe this time I got a kinda addiction!).

Every moment was something like "here's the turning point"...
but as usual we need to wait...
we can't figure out the links between the enemies and maybe neither who are the real enemies..
I hope the upcoming episodes can be juicy enough to meet our soar and dry expectations.

God bless you all
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individuall
11-22-2008, 07:05 PM
I like the idea of Clark chasing her a bit, but it does concern me.

I think Clark has some major fixing to do upon Lois' return. She'll be back stronger and determined for sure. I just hope we don't have wasted time with Lois and Clark and no romance between them.
Yes, I know Lois apparently falls for Superman first (in mythos), but since TW won't wear the suit and this hero remains a "red/blue blur", I don't think this should mean that Lois and CLARK won't have some romance.
ED and TW are far too talented and have far too much chemistry for it to be wasted on having Lois falling for some faceless "red/blue blur"!!!!:mad:

Don't worry..Lois falls for Clark in the Comics (they rebooted it in the 80's) She only had a crush on Supes..