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monel49
11-24-2008, 02:37 PM
One of the things that will keep ratings high is that for the first time in several seasons there is consistency in the weekly showing of SV. Aren't you at least a little surprised that SV starts again mid-January? Don't you all remember those great years (like last year for instance) when SV was pre-empted again, and again and again till you never knew when it would be on. The CW can be criticized for a lot, especially a lack of promotion, but at least this year, we can count on SV week after week.
My prediction: we will stay around 4-4.5 million for the second half of the season, as long as the quality lasts.
By the way, an awful lot of gloom and doom on this thread. Look at how other shows are faring. SV is doing great! Consistency. Consistency. Consistency. That's what we have in every area this year, and that's what we need for a season 9.
ClarkyBoy14
11-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Clarification - I think the show will hover AROUND or BELOW 4 million AFTER Legion. (3.5-4.05 range). We're not gonna be close to cracking 5mil as we have been the first half.
:confused:
We haven't been close to cracking five million this season. The highest we've been is 4.46 million viewers, and that's still over half a million away.
Unless you mean L+7 numbers?
davidbrenton
11-24-2008, 02:49 PM
L+7 for "Bloodline" is 5.02 million. Highest L+7 since last season's "Wrath" (5.12). I have a feeling we'll see a drop for "Abyss" next week, though.
4.18 isn't bad, but it should have been much better. These darn pre-emptions are killing us. :\
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Jan. ratings have never been below 4 million except for last season, and that was due to the strike, CW not promoting well, and CW waiting until the last day of Jan. to air SV.
This year we return with the LOSH, penned by a famed comics writer, and it's airing mid-Jan., there's no strike (hopefully), and CW already promoted it.
I'm not saying we're guaranteed to return above four million, but I think the chances are much higher for that to happen this year than last year.
I don't know how you can blame the strike for Smallville's performance last year. We were the only show airing new episodes at the time most other shows ran out.
ClarkyBoy14
11-24-2008, 02:51 PM
I don't know how you can blame the strike for Smallville's performance last year. We were the only show airing new episodes at the time most other shows ran out.
Most of the shows were off air during that time, including several shows on the CW. Most people probably would have assumed that all of their shows were off air due to the strike, and didn't tune it. It's not like the CW does a great job of promoting the show anywhere besides on their network. :\
davidbrenton
11-24-2008, 02:54 PM
:confused:
We haven't been close to cracking five million this season. The highest we've been is 4.46 million viewers, and that's still over half a million away.
Unless you mean L+7 numbers?
Well, mostly I mean the momentum toward that. I've kind of had my own "goal" set at 5m, and thought with continued momentum we'd reach it. With this break, I don't think it's reachable until maybe the last episodes of the season (With the final 7).
BREAK DEFINITION:
Break in Clois story - BATFINX (Sorry, I don't know how to quote after I already quoted) made an excellent point - Although we maybe doing "Superman" things with bigger villains, Lana is anti-Superman and entirely Superboy, so it's counter-productive of the direction the show has committed to this season. By placing Lana in the show without Lois we are essentially advertising for Superboy despite all other efforts to show this is now the Superman mythos THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR---I think that's a big part of it too. The audience has gotten over the whole Superboy concept. That became evident in season 6 & 7. Ratings platued this season and began to consistently climb (Damn football for slowing momentum) in large part because they were telling the story we've been waiting for, that of Superman. Casual "Swing Viewers" are not going to come back while Lana is in the picture because the SUPERMAN MYTHOS is linked with LOIS LANE. All the villains in the Superman universe come second the the juxtaposition of Lois with Superman. So, I don't think it will deliver the audience that will truly make the difference until episode 15 and then start to climb.
Furthermore, the fact they they throw Lois & Clark in everyones face, and then suddenly plug lana (Admittedly, for a seemingly great and needed story and re-direction of the story through CLARK'S eyes), the "Swing viewer" will be that much harder to be pulled back into watching it because of the perception of what's going on via commercials, etc. where Lana is there and not Lois (Again, Superboy instead of Superman).
SparkleforSmallville
11-24-2008, 02:56 PM
So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.
#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.
#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.
#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.
#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.
#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.
#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil.
#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.
Yay! The Live+7 broke 5 mil.:)
Thanks for the info ClarkyBoy14!
Wow! I just noticed that SV's Live+7 ratings consistently gain around 600,000 viewers. Interesting. Loyal fans, I guess.
ClarkyBoy14
11-24-2008, 02:57 PM
Well, mostly I mean the momentum toward that. I've kind of had my own "goal" set at 5m, and thought with continued momentum we'd reach it. With this break, I don't think it's reachable until maybe the last episodes of the season (With the final 7).
Oh, I see. I think that if it hadn't been for the pre-emptions, and "Abyss," it would have been possible for "Bride" to hit, or near five million.
But I guess we'll never know now.
6-Super-Man -5
11-24-2008, 03:08 PM
Smallville is doing well I gotta say!
davidbrenton
11-24-2008, 03:11 PM
So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
Yay! The Live+7 broke 5 mil.:)
Thanks for the info ClarkyBoy14!
Wow! I just noticed that SV's Live[B]+7 ratings consistently gain around 600,000 viewers. Interesting. Loyal fans, I guess.
I asked this before, but never got an answer...does live + 7 include every viewer who has cable and can watch on DVR, or just nielson families?
Also, I think the bad news with the "+7" aspect is that those are the people who watch it and fast forward through commercials. Therefore, from a $ (Advertising) perspective, they are less important to the CW.
SparkleforSmallville
11-24-2008, 03:23 PM
I'm thinking just Nielsen are counted.
They are finding that even when you FF TV ads that the products will stick in our minds, if the product is placed in the middle of the screen. Sounds sorta like subliminal advertising. So they are doing studies, and with more in-show product placement, I think the Live+7 ratings will start to be more important. Have you seen them? Some shows gain 3 and 4 mil. viewers. IMO It has to become relevent.
MAN-of-STEEL
11-24-2008, 03:26 PM
i believe by jan., SV will break 5 mil. think about it, we have not had a mid season
cliff hanger like this for quite sometime. there going to be lots of people glued to the screen come jan 15. Plus if he flies or puts on the suit(which i doubt) this season ratings will be through the roof. If only they would spend more time promoting the show we'll have at least 5.2mil every week. and if the writers continue writing like this, rating can't get any lower. just my 2 cents.
Aries83
11-24-2008, 03:31 PM
Did they release the final numbers for Bride yet?...
davidbrenton
11-24-2008, 03:31 PM
I'm thinking just Nielsen are counted.
They are finding that even when you FF TV ads that the products will stick in our minds, if the product is placed in the middle of the screen. Sounds sorta like subliminal advertising. So they are doing studies, and with more in-show product placement, I think the Live+7 ratings will start to be more important. Have you seen them? Some shows gain 3 and 4 mil. viewers. IMO It has to become relevent.
Hmm...the subliminal advertising thing is very interesting. So, it will change advertising in that it needs to keep a certain image up for x amount of time to likely be "seen" by the viewer when they fast forward. That could probably even be more strong than regular advertising.
Yes, product placement advertising is relevant. Smallville should do more of that.
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Did they release the final numbers for Bride yet?...
4.18 (Or was it 4.17)
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i believe by jan., SV will break 5 mil. think about it, we have not had a mid season
cliff hanger like this for quite sometime. there going to be lots of people glued to the screen come jan 15. Plus if he flies or puts on the suit(which i doubt) this season ratings will be through the roof. If only they would spend more time promoting the show we'll have at least 5.2mil every week. and if the writers continue writing like this, rating can't get any lower. just my 2 cents.
The promotion thing is really odd. The only thing I keep thinking is that the network is purposefully not advertising for it to see how well it will do without the advertising budget it normally has. Then, they'll have more money to throw at TW for S9 and they can do that confidently by taking from the set aside ad budget.
SparkleforSmallville
11-24-2008, 03:38 PM
Hmm...the subliminal advertising thing is very interesting. So, it will change advertising in that it needs to keep a certain image up for x amount of time to likely be "seen" by the viewer when they fast forward. That could probably even be more strong than regular advertising.
Yes, product placement advertising is relevant. Smallville should do more of that.
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4.18 (Or was it 4.17)
The relevent thing would be counting the ratings for Live+7. Please, not more Product placement on Smallville! *cough* Yaris *cough* :lol:
Bride Final is 4.18 mil.
6-Super-Man -5
11-24-2008, 05:21 PM
Since there is a hiatus right now, they should start talking with CW on S9 and re-signing contracts!
4.18? We could survive that.
SparkleforSmallville
11-24-2008, 05:33 PM
Just checked, for myself, the Final rating, wouldn't it be rounded off to 4.19 mil.? Not 4.18?
Smallville
- 4.185 million viewers
- 2.6/4 HH
- 1.7/5 A18-49
- 1.7/5 A18-34
Any Math Majors here?
smallvillerocks45
11-24-2008, 05:40 PM
4.18 - ouch! Well, at least it is better than last week. I have high hopes for our "leafy little hamlet."
I wonder though, how did the other CW shows fare? Is Smallville still on top for scripted shows? Overall?
Thanks to everyone who posts this information. I find it extremely interesting, but I have a difficult time finding the info - you all are lifesavers!
SparkleforSmallville
11-24-2008, 06:02 PM
Just checked, for myself, the Final rating, wouldn't it be rounded off to 4.19 mil.? Not 4.18?
Smallville
- 4.185 million viewers
- 2.6/4 HH
- 1.7/5 A18-49
- 1.7/5 A18-34
Any Math Majors here?
Ok, I found this, and ClarkyBoy14 had told me also.
"The general rule for rounding is 0-4 round down// 5-9 round up//"
Does anyone disagree?
If not, I'm officially changing "Bride's" Final to 4.19 mil.! Every little bit helps:)
6-Super-Man -5
11-24-2008, 06:03 PM
Sweet!
ClarkyBoy14
11-24-2008, 06:33 PM
Hmm...the subliminal advertising thing is very interesting. So, it will change advertising in that it needs to keep a certain image up for x amount of time to likely be "seen" by the viewer when they fast forward. That could probably even be more strong than regular advertising.
Have you noticed that a lot of movie promos now have the title and release date at the top of the screen throughout the entire commercial? I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
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The relevent thing would be counting the ratings for Live+7. Please, not more Product placement on Smallville! *cough* Yaris *cough* :lol:
Depends. If it's blatantly cheesy, such as "Hero," then NO more product placement. But I don't mind a few things here and there. At least it pays the bills and makes L+7 numbers more relevant. :p
Btw, has there been any product placement yet this season?
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Ok, I found this, and ClarkyBoy14 had told me also.
"The general rule for rounding is 0-4 round down// 5-9 round up//"
Does anyone disagree?
If not, I'm officially changing "Bride's" Final to 4.19 mil.! Every little bit helps:)
No objection from me. :)
iThieve
11-24-2008, 08:06 PM
Ok, I found this, and ClarkyBoy14 had told me also.
"The general rule for rounding is 0-4 round down// 5-9 round up//"
Does anyone disagree?
If not, I'm officially changing "Bride's" Final to 4.19 mil.! Every little bit helps:)
I'm a literature major but I know the way of rounding is the way you mentioned. I'm ninety nine point nine percent sure and well, by using the rounding formula, that's a hundred percent. ;)
luvinChlark
11-24-2008, 08:47 PM
Although I think Timester is right about the direction of the show being positive (And probably best for the story), I've got to side with you on the ratings slump. We'll get our best ratings out of Legion and then it's downhill until Lois' return. Mind you, it'll take two eps at least for them to start climbing to current season avg, but they definitely will starting with Infamous.
Why? Lois/Clois was pimped for Bride in the commercails, heck Lois got more screen time then the Bride and the ratings didn't soar (they were good) but just average.
Yes, I believe there will be a drop in ratings but I don't think it's because of no Lois but because of the return of Lana (people just don't like her) and most likely won't care to see her storyline play out. Especially if there is gonna be Clana romance. Major hit then. (I don't think they'll go their though)
Just for clarification the (possible) dip in ratings after Legion will be because of Lana's storyline. Just my opinion.
ShelbyKent
11-24-2008, 08:50 PM
Ok, I found this, and ClarkyBoy14 had told me also.
"The general rule for rounding is 0-4 round down// 5-9 round up//"
Does anyone disagree?
If not, I'm officially changing "Bride's" Final to 4.19 mil.! Every little bit helps:)
Were there any pre-emptions last week?
PhantomZone
11-25-2008, 04:25 AM
I think the CW did a good job of airing Smallville's first 10 episodes of S8 all in successive weeks. When they would go 3 weeks and have 1 episode in December, ratings always seemed to suffer b/c their promotion is lousy. I watch Smallville every week and a lot of years with all the holiday stuff going on, I'd have to look on this site to see what week the December episode was on. This was a great cliffhanger and hopefully the ratings will show it.
Jaderoyale
11-25-2008, 05:15 AM
Bloodlines still the highest rated episode of the season then?
Hmmm.
The ratings have been pretty consistant actually. Only dropping out of 4mil with Abyss.
stenochick
11-25-2008, 05:33 AM
If you have a show like Smallville which is watched by mostly males and you go up against the NFL(Even if it is on the NFL Network), you are going to take a hit in the ratings. Especially when the Steelers are the second most popular team in the country behind the Cowboys.
Great point. That's why I think the "Live + 7" ratings paint a more accurate picture of how many millions of people watch Smallville. Many people watch football or Survivor or something huge like that live, and then DVR Smallville to enjoy later without commercial interruption.
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I can only speak for Texas and Calif., But in Jan. it gets cold here! Brrr! Northerners may not think so, but to us it's Freezing:lol: I'll be staying in!
Ditto for North Florida. It's 50 degrees here!!! That is freaking freezing to us!!!
BadaBingBadaBoomsday
11-25-2008, 05:53 AM
Ok, I found this, and ClarkyBoy14 had told me also.
"The general rule for rounding is 0-4 round down// 5-9 round up//"
Does anyone disagree?
If not, I'm officially changing "Bride's" Final to 4.19 mil.! Every little bit helps:)
Why stop there. Go the extra decimal place and round up to 4.2!!!
stenochick
11-25-2008, 05:54 AM
Also, I think the bad news with the "+7" aspect is that those are the people who watch it and fast forward through commercials. Therefore, from a $ (Advertising) perspective, they are less important to the CW.
David, it's the wave of the future and they can't control it, just like the situation with the music industry. They will have to figure out a way around such as product placement like someone mentioned. For cult favorites like Smallville, it's the "Live + 7" numbers that show the true viewership.
Also, if you want to quote more than one post, just click on the cute little quote marks on the bottom right of the post you want to quote.
JDS2930
11-25-2008, 06:41 AM
Bloodlines still the highest rated episode of the season then?
Hmmm.
Hmmm.....indeed. ;) I think this just bolsters the fact that Kara does have an audience on the show (when provided quality writing material), and her presence was what boosted that episode's ratings. The CW and Smallville producers would do well to take note that even this excitement-filled mid-season finale did not surpass Bloodline's ratings. :)
That's not to knock this episode at all. I liked it and thought it was good overall.
You're actually both right. Yes, it's about Clark and about his destiny and moving forward and so falling for Lois Lane is a big part of that. Clark is becoming more proactive and being the hero he was destined to be. He's a reporter at the Planet now and he and Lois have been doing the flirtation tango. It's all connected. Clois is the ship of destiny and the audience knows that, just as they know he's a mild-mannered reporter for a great Metropolitan newspaper. So it's not just about shippers so much as that particular ship represents another step forward towards his destiny.
I don't think it's Lana's return or Lois's absence, per se, that could kill ratings in January, rather it's how long it will be drawn out and how it's handled. If they try and rekindle the romantic Clana, then sure there's going to be viewers who'll run screaming believing they've been tricked yet again. They have no reason to believe it will end for real this time if it drags on episode after episode with no Lois in sight. And it won't be helped by a two month hiatus and a shipper heavy show like Bones being up against Smallville in January. That was a smart move by FOX. In January that network dominates because of American Idol and so 20 million viewers will see ads for Bones compared to two or three million who'll see ads for Smallville. I hate to be pessimistic, but I don't see any light at the end of this particular tunnel.
Well put. ITA.
ClarkyBoy14
11-25-2008, 07:22 AM
Were there any pre-emptions last week?
In Pittsburgh, yes. Some people were also saying that SV was pre-empted in NY. I'm not sure why, though.
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Why stop there. Go the extra decimal place and round up to 4.2!!!
I don't know about others, but I like rounding to the hundreths place the best.
davidbrenton
11-25-2008, 07:26 AM
Have you noticed that a lot of movie promos now have the title and release date at the top of the screen throughout the entire commercial? I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
COOL. I'll look out for it. That's certainly a possibility.
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Why? Lois/Clois was pimped for Bride in the commercails, heck Lois got more screen time then the Bride and the ratings didn't soar (they were good) but just average.
Yes, I believe there will be a drop in ratings but I don't think it's because of no Lois but because of the return of Lana (people just don't like her) and most likely won't care to see her storyline play out. Especially if there is gonna be Clana romance. Major hit then. (I don't think they'll go their though)
Just for clarification the (possible) dip in ratings after Legion will be because of Lana's storyline. Just my opinion.
I agree with you. (Clarrification: I think Lois' absence will Exacerbate the Lana effect).
geminis
11-25-2008, 08:20 AM
Well, you're right for about 1/2 of the USA. Don't forget about Florida, Hawaii, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Mississippi and all those places. Ya here?
To be contrary, I have to say regarding some of these places, that for example, as was said already, northern California and the high deserts of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada can be freezing. The Grand Canyon gets snow and Death Valley is not only as hot as the sun, but will kill you just as easily at night due to the cold. And with Oregon and Washington, there is nothing like a cold rain that doesn't end to wear you down.
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COOL. I'll look out for it. That's certainly a possibility.
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I agree with you. (Clarrification: I think Lois' absence will Exacerbate the Lana effect).
I do think you're right about this, however. I also have to say I'll never be unhappy to see Clark, but I liked your personal avi; Superman indeed!
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COOL. I'll look out for it. That's certainly a possibility.
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I agree with you. (Clarrification: I think Lois' absence will Exacerbate the Lana effect).
L+7 for "Bloodline" is 5.02 million. Highest L+7 since last season's "Wrath" (5.12). I have a feeling we'll see a drop for "Abyss" next week, though.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/24/greys-anatomy-again-has-most-dvr-viewers-90210-has-greatest-dvr-increase/8680
11 SMALLVILLE CW 5,020 3,995 1,025 25.7%
4.18 isn't bad, but it should have been much better. These darn pre-emptions are killing us. :\
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Jan. ratings have never been below 4 million except for last season, and that was due to the strike, CW not promoting well, and CW waiting until the last day of Jan. to air SV.
This year we return with the LOSH, penned by a famed comics writer, and it's airing mid-Jan., there's no strike (hopefully), and CW already promoted it.
I'm not saying we're guaranteed to return above four million, but I think the chances are much higher for that to happen this year than last year.
Hooray for the bolded part! :D
JAMHEXXX
11-25-2008, 11:00 AM
Here's a graph I made.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3058767875_58f645dd89.jpg?v=0
jimmyolsenblues
11-25-2008, 11:01 AM
Here's a graph I made.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/3058731153_35bb202e0b.jpg?v=0
awesome job!
SparkleforSmallville
11-25-2008, 11:05 AM
JAMHEXXX, you forgot "Plastique"~ 4.18, but, nice graph! Abyss and Bride got hurt because of the Football pre-emptions. I wonder what their ratings would have been. I'm sure it would have been almost a straight line angling up!:)
Can you make a graph for the Live+7 ratings?
So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.
#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.
#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.
#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.
#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.
#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.
#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil.
#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.
JAMHEXXX
11-25-2008, 11:20 AM
JAMHEXXX, you forgot "Plastique"~ 4.18, but, nice graph! Abyss and Bride got hurt because of the Football pre-emptions. I wonder what their ratings would have been. I'm sure it would have been almost a straight line angling up!:)
Can you make a graph for the Live+7 ratings?
So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.
#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.
#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.
#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.
#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.
#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.
#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil.
#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.
Yeah, I saw that an fixed it and added Plastique.
Sure I'll make one for Live+7 Ratings as well.
Fallen One
11-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Finally over a 5.0, good stuff! I was stunned that Bride didn't at least eclipse Bloodline.
Fortunately that should be the last premption of the season. When SV returns from its Hiatus, there will no longer be any football games on Thursdays.
JAMHEXXX
11-25-2008, 11:28 AM
Here's a graph with Live+7 added in:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/3058784725_2bc7f14625_o.jpg
ClarkyBoy14
11-25-2008, 12:34 PM
Here's a graph with Live+7 added in:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/3058784725_2bc7f14625_o.jpg
Thank you for making the chart! :)
It's nice to see that Smallville has been rising in the L+7 numbers ever since "Toxic."
SparkleforSmallville
11-25-2008, 01:41 PM
Awesome Chart! Thanks!:)
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 02:23 PM
Awesome chart!
davidbrenton
11-25-2008, 02:25 PM
Now we need a chart comparing this season to seasons past and by demographic.
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 02:38 PM
I think last season beat this season in ratings. (The first eight episodes or so.)
Kevin24
11-25-2008, 02:59 PM
I think last season beat this season in ratings. (The first eight episodes or so.)
That's all right since ratings for all programs are down somewhat this year. The important thing is that Smallville keeps gaining viewers in the weeks to come and with the good word of mouth I expect us to stay above 4 million for the year.
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 03:51 PM
If Smallville averages a 4 million or higher for the whole season, I think it is safe to say.
We will get a Season Nine!
Kevin24
11-25-2008, 03:52 PM
Yes, you have inspired me to put in a custom sig in all my posts promoting a season 9.
Now we need a chart comparing this season to seasons past and by demographic.
YES!! I´m dying to know..
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 04:19 PM
Yes, you have inspired me to put in a custom sig in all my posts promoting a season 9.
~I want a Season NINE!~
I don't think you should do that, you'll learn what happens if you continue to keep the signature.
But I do believe "Bride" has made many fans want a Season Nine! :D
amelietw
11-25-2008, 04:29 PM
Here's a graph with Live+7 added in:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/3058784725_2bc7f14625_o.jpg
Great chart!!
Bloodline was a winner, I can't wait to see the +7 for Bride.... :D
alejandrita439
11-25-2008, 04:29 PM
Here's a graph with Live+7 added in:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/3058784725_2bc7f14625_o.jpg
thanks for this :)
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 04:37 PM
Bloodline was a winner, I can't wait to see the +7 for Bride.... :D
Me as well! :D
WickedJenn
11-25-2008, 04:39 PM
An FYI here--No signatures are on K-Site, this includes signing posts. Thank you.
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Tried to warn him.
Anyways does anyone know when the +7 for "Bride" is released?
Kevin24
11-25-2008, 04:56 PM
I don't think you should do that, you'll learn what happens if you continue to keep the signature.
But I do believe "Bride" has made many fans want a Season Nine! :D
Must be against the rules. I should delete it then lol
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An FYI here--No signatures are on K-Site, this includes signing posts. Thank you.
No problem, I deleted them;)
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Tried to warn him.
Anyways does anyone know when the +7 for "Bride" is released?
They are released two weeks after the episode airs I believe.
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 05:23 PM
Really? Thats going to be a while.
Kevin24
11-25-2008, 05:26 PM
I remember someone mentioning in another episode of season 8. I am thinking it's true though since we just got Bloodlines +7 and we just passed Bride. About a two week gap between the airing and release of the +7 for bloodline.
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 05:56 PM
Thats pretty long.
ClarkyBoy14
11-25-2008, 07:16 PM
I think that "Bride" is already the third most discussed episode ever on K-Site.
Must be against the rules. I should delete it then lol
You could put something on the thing on the left. :)
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 07:20 PM
Yeah. :D
smallvillerocks45
11-25-2008, 07:25 PM
JAMHEXXX you're awesome! Thanks for posting the graphical visual of Smallville's ratings for season 8. It really puts things into perspective - i.e. Smallville is doing wonderfully this season!
I'm still wishing for 5 million viewers, some day soon, but for now I am happy to see the show has maintained fairly consistent ratings despite the show's preemption in some cities.
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 07:35 PM
"Legion" I think could get 5 million views.
SparkleforSmallville
11-25-2008, 08:08 PM
{Thanks to Best Episode-321 for these S7 Stats.}
Season 7 *Finals
Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*
Wrath..............4.64 million*
Blue.................4.51 million*
Gemini.............3.71 million*
Persona............3.81 million*
Siren.................4.01 million*
Fracture..............3.67 million*
Hero...................3.81 million*
Traveler...............3.44 million*
Veritas.................3.86 million*
Descent................3.61 million*
Sleeper.................3.62 million*
Apocalypse............3.81 million*
Quest...................3.99 million*
Arctic...................3.85 million*
Season 7 Live+7 ratings
Bizarro.............5.59 million*
Kara................5.04 million*
Fierce..............5.20 million*
Cure................5.61 million*
Action..............5.08 million*
Lara................4.75 million*
Wrath..............5.12 million*
Blue.................4.90 million*
Gemini.............4.05 million*
Persona............4.34 million*
Siren...............4.53 million*
Fracture...........4.18 million*
Hero................4.40 million*
Traveler...........4.13 million*
Veritas.............4.39 million*
Descent............4.19 million*
Sleeper.............4.19 million*
Apocalypse........4.29 million*
Quest...............4.55 million*
Arctic...............4.52 million*
6-Super-Man -5
11-25-2008, 08:13 PM
Great first eight episodes, but the rest were low.
I think this season will change, and so will Season Nine. (In a good way)
alejandrita439
11-25-2008, 10:03 PM
thanks for the season 7 ratings :)
JAMHEXXX
11-25-2008, 10:17 PM
Here's one with Live+7 and Live Finals from Season 7
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/3060882090_7ee65c3b47_o.jpg
Season 7 Average after 10 episodes: 4.55 million
Season 8 Average after 10 episodes: 4.16 million
Jaderoyale
11-26-2008, 12:51 AM
Season 7 Average after 10 episodes: 4.55 million
Season 8 Average after 10 episodes: 4.16 million
This doesn't bother me, cause i'm taking into account that S7 started to go downhill after 'Siren' in the Live ratings.
Tompouce
11-26-2008, 04:37 AM
Great first eight episodes, but the rest were low.
I think this season will change, and so will Season Nine. (In a good way)
Thank you ! Your optimism concerning Season 9 is so comforting (as I already said, I am like you but with more doubts);):)
davidbrenton
11-26-2008, 08:14 AM
Oh man. I can't help it. I don't like that S7 did better. Booh.
ClarkyBoy14
11-26-2008, 08:37 AM
A bad thing I just remembered is that FOX is moving Bones to Thursdays at 8 next year, and Bones gets more than twice as many viewers as those crappy game/reality shows. :(
Oh man. I can't help it. I don't like that S7 did better. Booh.
Well, ya know, S7 didn't have to suffer the loss of half of its cast.
SnowBird
11-26-2008, 08:58 AM
Survivor was up against Smallville and they won't be back in January. I agree Bones could be troublesome but this diehard Smallville fan won't be watching Bones just like I didn't watch Survivor even though I am a Survivor fan. I guess we will have to see how loyal Smallville fans are.
JAMHEXXX
11-26-2008, 09:06 AM
I'm just happy that I have Two DVR's so I can record both shows. Bones will bring a very loyal fanbase to Thursday, but I think the impact on Smallville will be minimal if anything at all.
SparkleforSmallville
11-26-2008, 11:01 AM
Those graphs are AWESOME!
Season 7 was really up and down! S8 has been alot more consistent. It's funny how the Live+7 audiences are really consistent for both Seasons. S7 was about 500,000 more and S8 has been
about 600,000 more Live+7 gains.
Smallville Fans are loyal:)
JAMHEXXX
11-26-2008, 11:30 AM
I noticed after I did the graphs that during Season 7 that the ratings never went up for more then two weeks in a row.
Between episode Kara and Cure was the only time that the ratings stayed on an upward trend. The rest of the year it would go up then drop, all the while staying on a general downward path
Season 8 on the other hand, has had a nice steady upward progression since Toxic. Take out the football pre-emptions and who knows how high the Season 8 ratings average would be.
justme_007
11-26-2008, 11:41 AM
Oh man. I can't help it. I don't like that S7 did better. Booh.
:\ hint // Two of the principal characters are not in this season //
Even thought, i´ve always been loyal to smallville.
DAISHI
11-26-2008, 01:37 PM
What's Live+7?
ClarkyBoy14
11-26-2008, 02:27 PM
Survivor was up against Smallville and they won't be back in January. I agree Bones could be troublesome but this diehard Smallville fan won't be watching Bones just like I didn't watch Survivor even though I am a Survivor fan. I guess we will have to see how loyal Smallville fans are.
I'm stickin' with Smallville too. Let's hope that we have some other loyal fans too. :)
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What's Live+7?
People who watch Smallville live (when it airs) plus the people who watch it on their DVR up to seven days after the episode airs.
6-Super-Man -5
11-26-2008, 02:30 PM
In ratings Season Seven was better, but in heart, Season Eight was better.
Season Nine Better Happen!
Kevin24
11-26-2008, 02:30 PM
does watching it on the CW count?
I am watching it on the CW website right now.
ClarkyBoy14
11-26-2008, 05:31 PM
Here's how "Abyss" ranked in total viewers on CW for week of 11/10-11/16.
1 America's Next Top Model 3.71 million viewers
2 Smallville 3.56
3 Supernatural 2.94
4 One Tree Hill 2.89
5 Gossip Girl 2.88
6 90210 2.72
7 Privileged 1.86
8 Everybody Hates Chris 1.75
9 Stylista 1.73
10 The Game 1.69
11 ANTM (R) 1.39
12 In Harm's Way (R) 0.71
13 Valentine (R) 0.56
14 Easy Money (R) 0.48
6-Super-Man -5
11-26-2008, 05:41 PM
Oh well, we're still better than any other show on the network.
ClarkyBoy14
11-26-2008, 05:42 PM
Here's how "Bride" ranked in total viewership on CW for the week of 11/17-11/23.
1 America's Next Top Model (Cycle Finale) 4.84 million viewers
2 Smallville 4.19
3 Supernatural 3.34
4 90210 2.92
5 Gossip Girl 2.89
6 One Tree Hill 2.72
7 Stylista 2.16
8 Everybody Hates Chris 1.68
9 The Game 1.57
10 Privileged 1.55
11 ANTM (R) 1.01
12 In Harm's Way (R) 0.71
13 Valentine (R) 0.64
14 Easy Money (R) 0.40
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Here are the average total viewership rankings for the season for CW series.
1 Smallville (10 episodes) 4.16 million viewers
2 America's Next Top Model (12) 4.04
3 Supernatural (10) 3.32
4 Gossip Girl (11) 3.22
t. One Tree Hill (11) 3.22
t. 90210 (11) 3.22
7 Privileged (10) 1.97
8 Stylista (5) 1.96
9 Everybody Hates Chris (8) 1.73
10 The Game (8) 1.69
SparkleforSmallville
11-26-2008, 06:09 PM
Yay! Smallville is still #1:)
Wow, GG, OTH, 90210 must have the exact same fans watching:lol:
smallvillerocks45
11-26-2008, 08:09 PM
ClarkyBoy14, thank you for posting those stats! You have just made my day.
tyson08
11-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Note to CW, look at which shows are bringing you the big viewers. Get your head in the game Dawn Astroff.
Kevin24
11-26-2008, 11:05 PM
So does anyone know if watching the episodes on the CW site count for anything? Does it contribute to ratings at all?
6-Super-Man -5
11-27-2008, 05:09 PM
Smallville is superior.
The countdown until Season Nine's confirmation has begun!
davidbrenton
11-28-2008, 08:33 AM
So does anyone know if watching the episodes on the CW site count for anything? Does it contribute to ratings at all?
If it has commercials in the episode, they will absolutely be looked at by the CW, because they get advertising $ from there. Watching the show on the CW can't hurt. It can only help. Speaking of which, great idea, I'm going to "watch" the show from my laptop now.
LuckyLois
11-28-2008, 04:39 PM
don't forget the last 2 weeks were prempted due to football.
6-Super-Man -5
11-28-2008, 04:40 PM
Damn it, Football needs to go on break or go on a different channel where no one can watch it.
scifigirl
11-28-2008, 05:20 PM
Survivor was up against Smallville and they won't be back in January. I agree Bones could be troublesome but this diehard Smallville fan won't be watching Bones just like I didn't watch Survivor even though I am a Survivor fan. I guess we will have to see how loyal Smallville fans are.
I am not extremely worried about Bones. I am a Bones fan but I will always chose SV. OTH, the Clana storyline of the next four epis does have me slightly worried ratings wise. However, I think that it is clear at this point that SV has a loyal core fan base of around 4 million viewers. These are the people, like both of us, who will chose SV over other shows. Anyway, K-siters, let's get the word out about Legion.
jack1487
11-30-2008, 02:25 AM
I can only speak for Texas and Calif., But in Jan. it gets cold here! Brrr! Northerners may not think so, but to us it's Freezing:lol: I'll be staying in!
Well I live in the central valley which is just 37 miles from the state capital and it gets down to around 19 - 20 degrees in the winter (about 109+ in the summer) and we do see some light snow from time to time. But we all seem to enjoy it!!!
Take Care,
Jack :lol:
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I'm thinking just Nielsen are counted.
They are finding that even when you FF TV ads that the products will stick in our minds, if the product is placed in the middle of the screen. Sounds sorta like subliminal advertising. So they are doing studies, and with more in-show product placement, I think the Live+7 ratings will start to be more important. Have you seen them? Some shows gain 3 and 4 mil. viewers. IMO It has to become relevent.
I think that its relevant now as the numbers show that we the viewers want to watch a show when we want too and not have to watch it when the networks would like us too!
Since I have DirecTv and I am sure many others do also is what we watch is not counted even if I use the system DVR, so I went out and brought a TiVo unit. I watch the show during the week so that it is counted and I also watch it on Apple TV which I think gets a count somewhere along the way.
But the Live+ 7 are counted I am sure of that fact. I think it's what saved Smallville last year and gave us a season 8.
Take Care,
Jack ;)
puddinpiester
11-30-2008, 10:54 AM
Wonder if multiple viewings get counted multiple times?? I also use TiVo to time shift and hope that my SV viewing is counted.
I am also a Bones fan, but will quickly forego Bones for SV. I will probably tape Bones, but will not watch it until after the Live 7 week period is over so as not to allow my viewing of Bones to compete with SV ratings wise.
I have no idea whether or not there will be a season 9, but I intend to do my part. Plus, I want SV to go out with a bang; not a whimper. I figure that a ratings bang will be good for those responsible for making SV a success and I would like to help them if I can.
Dor el
12-01-2008, 08:49 AM
I agree we need to do our part to help ratings.
ClarkyBoy14
12-03-2008, 09:30 AM
Wow, L+7's still aren't out for "Abyss." :\
SparkleforSmallville
12-03-2008, 10:50 AM
I read, because of Thanksgiving, they won't be out till today. Hopefully!
The new TV Guide Dec. 8-14 has an article on SV, I'm going to go read it!
Tompouce
12-03-2008, 10:56 AM
I think you will be disappointed...
SparkleforSmallville
12-03-2008, 12:15 PM
OH NO! It sounds like Tom isn't going to sign for a 9th Season!:(
PS3 wants to keep going, now that SV is enjoying a ratings rebound, but he reveals there are some issues with 'actor availability'. After 8 yrs. Tom, 31, may be ready to fly off into more adult roles.
They must be now filming Epi. 14 or 15, and I would think by now PS3 would know how to proceed with the story. This sounds bad:(
Darren Swimmer does say that they are prepared for a Series Finale.(my heart sank)
"Repeated calls to Tom's reps seeking comment were not returned
LuckyLois
12-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Show him the money and some respect CW!!!
Kevin24
12-03-2008, 01:00 PM
OH NO! It sounds like Tom isn't going to sign for a 9th Season!:(
PS3 wants to keep going, now that SV is enjoying a ratings rebound, but he reveals there are some issues with 'actor availability'. After 8 yrs. Tom, 31, may be ready to fly off into more adult roles.
They must be now filming Epi. 14 or 15, and I would think by now PS3 would know how to proceed with the story. This sounds bad:(
Darren Swimmer does say that they are prepared for a Series Finale.(my heart sank)
"Repeated calls to Tom's reps seeking comment were not returned
:(
JAMHEXXX
12-03-2008, 02:52 PM
Live+7 for Abyss
SMALLVILLE CW 4,382mil......... 1,167milDVR viewers
Live+7= 4,382,000
Live + Same Day DVR Viewers=3,556,000
Total DVR viewers=1,167,000
Persons Live=3,215,000
Same Day DVR Viewers=341,000
Same Day DVR Viewers=7.8%
Total DVR=26.6%
Updated Chart:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/3080316959_edacc89c35_o.jpg
SparkleforSmallville
12-03-2008, 06:19 PM
So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.
#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.
#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.
#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.
#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.
#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.
#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.
#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.
Thanks for the chart, JAMHEXX:)
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:(
I know I'm sad too, at the thought of SV ending,.... my KryptonSite friends:(
But, THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE, and we should just look forward to the upcoming episodes and not grieve until it's actually over, right?
I sort of expected Abyss live+7 to be higher, but at least the ratings are consistent. Can't wait for Legion! Those ratings will be great:)
For Abyss live+7: "Rounding out the top 10 for largest audience share via DVR viewing were Office, 90210, Heroes, Fringe, Gossip Girl, Smallville, House, America’s Top Model and Privileged."
smallvillerocks45
12-03-2008, 11:24 PM
Wow! The CW is apparently doing very well in DVR ratings. I presume that Smallville still is their highest rated scripted show (please correct me if I'm wrong), but good for the CW - maybe this trend will lead to more money toward the promotion of Smallville.
LuckyLois
12-04-2008, 04:16 AM
The main problem with Abyss was it was prempted by a football game in the northeast where I live so it lost a large share of the live ratings. I think it Bride suffered the same in the TX area for the same reason. SV has had some tough hurdles with the ratings and they are still the strongest show for the CW.
It will be really sad if Tom leaves, but I refuse to let it get me down and look forward to an amazing season so far! p.s. Allison held out too and they must have made her happy so we can't blame Tom if he wants more creative control and $$.
marcella
12-04-2008, 05:05 AM
I can't wait for Bride's Live+7 ratings. I think it will be between 4.8 and 5 millions viewers.
ClarkyBoy14
12-04-2008, 04:45 PM
"Abyss" L+7's are the lowest since "Apocalypse" (4.29 million), but I wasn't really expecting them to be too high. I hope "Bride" has a nice boost.
Because I'm bored...
Here is how the repeat of "Odyssey" faired in total viewership on the CW for the week of 11/24-11/30. Bear in mind that Smallville and Supernatural both aired on Thanksgiving, a lower-rated night.
1. One Tree Hill - 2.22 million viewers
2. Everybody Hates Chris - 2.10
3. The Game - 1.99
4. Smallville (R) - 1.81
5. Supernatural (R) - 1.71
6. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.59
7. The Game (R) - 1.51
8. One Tree Hill (R) - 1.40
9. The Crocodile Hunter: Collision Course (movie) - 1.25
10. Jericho (R) - 1.22
11. Stylista (R) - 1.00
12. How To Deal (movie) - 0.95
13. Stylista (clip show) - 0.79
So that makes Smallville the most watched repeat of the week. ;)
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I know I'm sad too, at the thought of SV ending,.... my KryptonSite friends:(
But, THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE, and we should just look forward to the upcoming episodes and not grieve until it's actually over, right?
I expect a lot of us will have a box of tissues near us when the series finale of Smallville airs. :(
Let's just hope that doesn't happen for another year. :)
SparkleforSmallville
12-04-2008, 06:00 PM
Smallville is even #1 in the repeats! AWESOME:)
tyson08
12-04-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm very upset I forgot to watch the repeat of Odyssey! I forgot all about it, being Thanksgiving and all.
I did watch tonight's epsiode. It's nice that Smallvill is still beating out the competition on re-run's. :)
SparkleforSmallville
12-04-2008, 06:08 PM
It will be really sad if Tom leaves, but I refuse to let it get me down and look forward to an amazing season so far! p.s. Allison held out too and they must have made her happy so we can't blame Tom if he wants more creative control and $$.
I have a feeling Tom wants more time off, more than anything. He's worked 9 months out of the year, usually 6 days a week and alot of long hours., for almost 8 yrs. I don't blame him, I just love Smallville so much.
With the steady ratings, I thought for sure a S9. Still hoping:)
Give TW whatever he wants!
6-Super-Man -5
12-10-2008, 05:43 PM
Guys don't get sad, I am very sure a Season Nine will happen, our discussions will continue on for another year, all we can do is wait and see when they confirm it. :D
bizzaroboy9
12-10-2008, 06:09 PM
isn't the dvr number supposed to be out by now??
SparkleforSmallville
12-11-2008, 09:53 AM
They keep saying they are delayed this week.
Hopefully today, we'll get the Live+7 for Bride.:)
Cool avi, Jason!
ClarkyBoy14
12-12-2008, 06:35 PM
While we're waiting, here is how the repeat of "Plastique" did against the rest of the CW's programming in terms of total viewership for the week of December 1, 2008 - December 7, 2008.
1. Gossip Girl - 3.11 million viewers
2. Smallville (R) - 2.29
3. Privileged (special night) - 2.20
4. Supernatural (R) - 2.00
5. Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer (special) - 1.87
6. The Story of Santa Claus (special) - 1.75
7. The Cutting Edge (movie) - 1.62
8. Stylista - 1.25
9. Stylista (R) - 1.25
10. 90210 (R) - 1.21
11. Jericho (R) - 1.13
12. Privileged (R) - 0.84
So not only did Smallville have the most watched repeat, but it also beat new episodes of Privileged and Stylista.
disciples of zod
12-12-2008, 06:46 PM
wow. that many people watched a rerun! that's impressive, but strange :confused:
~K
marcella
12-13-2008, 02:26 AM
Even in reruns Smallville is one of the most watched shows in CW
tyson08
12-13-2008, 10:37 AM
Smallville will always bring in the viewers!
When do we get ratings for Toxic's re-run?
SparkleforSmallville
12-13-2008, 11:18 AM
Repeat of Toxic, Final 2.50mil.
Still no Live+7 for Bride :/
marcella
12-13-2008, 11:48 AM
We don't have it yet?That's strange,other episodes had it released 2 weeks later,and we have more than 3 weeks.
tyson08
12-13-2008, 12:21 PM
Repeat of Toxic, Final 2.50mil.
Still no Live+7 for Bride :/
2.5, that's great! I'm loving that's re-runs are getting better numbers than anything else on CW besides new episodes of GG, but still it's very close!
6-Super-Man -5
12-14-2008, 10:39 AM
Repeat of Toxic, Final 2.50mil.
Still no Live+7 for Bride :/
Thats pretty good!
Wow, its been a while.
ClarkyBoy14
12-15-2008, 02:07 PM
Repeat of Toxic, Final 2.50mil.
Still no Live+7 for Bride :/
2.50 million is really good for a repeat on the CW. :)
Hint to Dawn Ostroff: Try to hang onto this show. :p
6-Super-Man -5
12-15-2008, 03:09 PM
Hang onto the show for at least one more season. :D
KAL-EL10
12-15-2008, 11:04 PM
wheres live+7 for bride
alejandrita439
12-16-2008, 12:16 PM
So not only did Smallville have the most watched repeat, but it also beat new episodes of Privileged and Stylista.
thats good to know :)
tyson08
12-16-2008, 10:48 PM
What's taking the Live+7's so long?
KAL-EL10
12-16-2008, 11:10 PM
What's taking the Live+7's so long?
I don't know but i really want them
ClarkyBoy14
12-17-2008, 07:29 AM
They were so big that Nielsen's machines went berserk. I wish. :p
I have no clue why they aren't posted yet.
origin
12-18-2008, 11:11 AM
Still no Live+7?
SparkleforSmallville
12-19-2008, 09:15 AM
No Live+7 for Bride, yet. They can't explain why.:/
A repeat of "Instinct" did 2.54 mil. in the overnights.:)
tyson08
12-19-2008, 10:59 AM
Even Smallville's re-run ratings keep going up!
Odyssey- 1.81
Plastique- 2.29
Toxic- 2.50
Instinct- 2.54
Can it reach 3 million?! :eek:
origin
12-19-2008, 11:07 AM
A repeat of "Instinct" did 2.54 mil. in the overnights.:)
Wow, Thats awesome!
KAL-EL10
12-19-2008, 02:04 PM
Even Smallville's re-run ratings keep going up!
Odyssey- 1.81
Plastique- 2.29
Toxic- 2.50
Instinct- 2.54
Can it reach 3 million?! :eek:
Smallville kicks but
anyone know how instinct repeat compared against the rest of CW shows this week
ClarkyBoy14
12-19-2008, 04:48 PM
Here's how that "Toxic" repeat faired in total viewership against the rest of the CW's lineup for the week of Monday, December 8, 2008 - Sunday, December 14, 2008.
1. Gossip Girl - 2.99 million viewers
2. Smallville (R) - 2.50
3. Supernatural (R) - 1.98
4. Privileged (special night) - 1.91
5. Everybody Hates Chris - 1.70
6. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.52
7. Stylista - 1.32
8. Stylista (R) - 1.20
9. 90210 (R) - 1.18
10. Spaceballs (movie) - 1.17
11. Privileged (R) - 1.06
12. Family Entertainment Awards (special) - 0.94
13. Jericho (R) - 0.88
Smallville had the most watched repeat and beat out the following original programming: Privileged, Stylista, Everybody Hates Chris, and the Family Entertainment Awards.
----- Added 6 Minutes later -----
Smallville kicks but
anyone know how instinct repeat compared against the rest of CW shows this week
In the final numbers, "Instinct" was at 2.132 million viewers, which would put it behind an encore of the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. I'll have the full list up sometime next week, maybe.
ClarkyBoy14
12-23-2008, 07:43 PM
Still no L+7 numbers for "Bride," and they're not even sure if they'll get them. :\
Here is how the repeat of "Instinct" did against the rest of the CW's programming in total viewership for the week of Monday, December 15, 2008 - Sunday, December 21, 2008.
1. Victoria's Secret Fashion Show (R, special) - 2.44 million viewers
2. Smallville (R) - 2.13
3. Supernatural (R) - 2.07
4. Gossip Girl (R) - 1.61
5. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.42
6. Stylista - 1.40
7. The Three Amigos! (movie) - 1.36
8. Everybody Hates Chris (R, 9:30) - 1.33
9. The Game (R) - 1.31
10. The Game (R, 9:00) - 1.27
11. One Tree Hill (R) - 1.15
12. 90210 (R) - 1.11
13. Privileged (R) - 0.93
14. Jericho (R) - 0.91
So Smallville didn't have the most watched repeat this week, but it still came in second for the week and beat an original episode of Stylista.
Since Smallville repeats usually get between 1.7-2.5 million viewers in its regular timeslot, I'm thinking the CW should pull Jericho repeats from Sundays at 7 and start airing repeats of Smallville from the early seasons.
Everyone behold the awesomeness of Smallville!
Thanks for the info!
davidbrenton
12-26-2008, 09:20 PM
When do we find out how Committed repeat did on Christmas?
tyson08
12-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Still no Live+7's, this seems very ridiculous.
bizzaroboy9
12-26-2008, 11:31 PM
it has been a month since bride aired! where is that #???
SparkleforSmallville
12-27-2008, 04:19 PM
When do we find out how Committed repeat did on Christmas?
Repeat of "Committed" 1.41 mil. {All the network's ratings were really low}.
SpN actually did abit better than SV with their repeat. 1.53 mil.
Still no stats for "Bride" :confused:
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{They have no explanation.}
Posted on 16 December 2008 by Bill Gorman
I still haven’t seen weekly Live+7 program numbers for either November 17-23 or November 24-30 from Nielsen.
DVR Data Delayed, Will Post When/If Available
Posted on 23 December 2008 by Bill Gorman
We have no ETA on when we will (or if we will) see the required Live and Live+7 data to be able to calculate the numbers for our regular DVR viewing posts.
{The delays haven't gone unnoticed}:
When Nielsen has delays with the release of the most recent batch of DVR data (for the week of November 17-23) it impacts not just third world websites like us, but big networks who pay big bucks for the data like Fox.
bartez
01-03-2009, 11:04 AM
does anyone know when we get final ratings? we are waiting for so long :/
ClarkyBoy14
01-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Here is how the repeat of "Committed" ranked in total viewership against the rest of the CW's lineup for the week of Monday, December 22, 2008 - Sunday, December 28, 2008. (Please note that Smallville and Supernatural aired on Christmas night, and Smallville did not air a Christmas-themed episode as Supernatural did.)
1. The Flight Before Christmas (special) - 1.84 million viewers
2. Supernatural (R) - 1.60
3. The Story of Santa Claus (special) - 1.57
4. The Revenge of the Pink Panther (movie) - 1.42
5. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.40
6. Smallville (R) - 1.33
7. The Game (R) - 1.26
t. Gossip Girl (R) - 1.26
9. The Game (R, 9:30) - 1.17
10. Everybody Hates Chris (R, 9:00) - 1.16
11. Privileged (R) - 1.11
12. 90210 (R) - 1.06
13. Jericho (R) - 0.95
14. One Tree Hill (R) - 0.83
smallvillerocks45
01-03-2009, 11:42 PM
Well, considering that last week's episode of Smallville was neither Christmas themed nor a new episode, I'd say the show's repeat ratings were fairly consistent with this season's other repeats. I know I was busy on Christmas day, so I did not get to watch SV or SN. I have a feeling that was the case for many.
I can't wait to see SV's ratings for January 15th! That will be a big deal, methinks.
(...and thank you ClarkyBoy14 for the update. :) )
Here is how the repeat of "Committed" ranked in total viewership against the rest of the CW's lineup for the week of Monday, December 22, 2008 - Sunday, December 28, 2008. (Please note that Smallville and Supernatural aired on Christmas night, and Smallville did not air a Christmas-themed episode as Supernatural did.)
1. The Flight Before Christmas (special) - 1.84 million viewers
2. Supernatural (R) - 1.60
3. The Story of Santa Claus (special) - 1.57
4. The Revenge of the Pink Panther (movie) - 1.42
5. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.40
6. Smallville (R) - 1.33
7. The Game (R) - 1.26
t. Gossip Girl (R) - 1.26
9. The Game (R, 9:30) - 1.17
10. Everybody Hates Chris (R, 9:00) - 1.16
11. Privileged (R) - 1.11
12. 90210 (R) - 1.06
13. Jericho (R) - 0.95
14. One Tree Hill (R) - 0.83
TV Guide in my area hasn't been puting The CW in it's listings. I don't know if this is just going to be during repeats or if it is permanant. This can't be helping the CW's ratings though.
ClarkyBoy14
01-04-2009, 11:13 AM
I can't wait to see SV's ratings for January 15th! That will be a big deal, methinks.
(...and thank you ClarkyBoy14 for the update. :) )
I hope the January 15 ratings are big! Smallville is also lucky, because the CW's Monday through Wednesday shows will have already been airing for a week, so that will have people back to the CW and seeing promos for new Smallville episodes during something other than repeats.
And no problem. :)
smallvillerocks45
01-05-2009, 01:43 AM
That extra week of promotion should be helpful - as long as The CW actually promotes the show. I was shocked to see a promo for 90210 on Fuse (a cable music channel), last night. I never see Smallville promos on other networks.... but I would hope the network would at least promote the show on it's own network, so we'll see.
If I've read correctly, however, Legion's ratings should reflect a season high for the mere fact that comic book writer, Geoff Johns, has quite a following. Those viewers combined with SV's loyal watchers and any other potential channel zappers should *hopefully* give Smallville that little extra boost it's been needing to reach 5 million viewers.
I sure can't wait to find out!
ClarkyBoy14
01-05-2009, 02:06 PM
That extra week of promotion should be helpful - as long as The CW actually promotes the show.
Yeah. The CW seems to be excited about it, as I think they've made more promos for "Legion" than any other Smallville episode (even more than "Justice," I think).
I was shocked to see a promo for 90210 on Fuse (a cable music channel), last night. I never see Smallville promos on other networks.... but I would hope the network would at least promote the show on it's own network, so we'll see.
I'm not surprised. Back in September, I saw promos for Gossip Girl and 90210 on Soap Net and Oxygen (No, I don't watch those channels, I just happened to be passing through the channels. :p)
If I've read correctly, however, Legion's ratings should reflect a season high for the mere fact that comic book writer, Geoff Johns, has quite a following. Those viewers combined with SV's loyal watchers and any other potential channel zappers should *hopefully* give Smallville that little extra boost it's been needing to reach 5 million viewers.
I sure can't wait to find out!
Oh, yeah. Hopefully Geoff Johns's fans, as well as LOSH and SV fans all tune in on January 15. Five million would be really cool. :D
alejandrita439
01-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Oh, yeah. Hopefully Geoff Johns's fans, as well as LOSH and SV fans all tune in on January 15. Five million would be really cool. :D
yay! :D
that would be so cool :)
bizzaroboy9
01-05-2009, 02:58 PM
nah 10 million viewers will tune in for legion!
smallvillerocks45
01-05-2009, 09:14 PM
If only, if only... I would love 10 million, but I'll be just as happy with 5 mil.
Fallen One
01-05-2009, 09:24 PM
I do expect the highest ratins of the season for Legion. But hopefully thats not too high of an expectation.
ClarkyBoy14
01-06-2009, 06:03 PM
I do expect the highest ratins of the season for Legion. But hopefully thats not too high of an expectation.
Who knows? Bones makes its time period debut the same night as "Legion," but I'm just glad it won't have to return this week, as it would have to face the BCS Championship game.
JAMHEXXX
01-07-2009, 11:14 AM
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Here are the numbers for the Abyss re-run.
1.85 M .................. 0.7/2
Looks like Live +7 numbers won't be given by Nielsen anymore.
This is from TV by the Numbers:
1. Nielsen stopped making any calculated DVR viewing numbers regularly available free to the press in late 2007. They could easily have still provided those numbers to paying customers, I’m not sure.
2. We continued calculating the DVR viewing numbers ourselves using Live and Live+7 viewing data from Nielsen until November, 2008 when Nielsen stopped providing those numbers free to the press. We calculated top DVR viewed shows for both absolute viewer gain and % gain and included both top 20 lists in our posts.
Nielsen has also changed their method of calculating Live+7 numbers, which will hurt the CW shows.
SparkleforSmallville
01-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Aww, there goes our fun:( I enjoyed checking the DVR ratings. *sigh*
ClarkyBoy14
01-07-2009, 02:25 PM
The repeat of "Abyss" was the most watched program in total viewers on the CW for the week of Monday, December 29, 2008 - Sunday, January 4, 2009.
1. Smallville (R) - 1.85 million viewers
2. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.82
3. Everybody Hates Chris (R, 9:00) - 1.56
4. Supernatural (R) - 1.55
5. The Game (R, 9:30) - 1.49
6. The Game (R) - 1.43
7. The Trail of the Pink Panther (movie) - 1.34
8. Gossip Girl (R) - 1.30
9. How To Deal (movie) - 1.19
10. 90210 (R) - 1.07
11. One Tree Hill - 0.89
t. Privileged - 0.89
13. Jericho (R) - 0.74
Pretty bad week for the CW. Nothing even one show hit two million viewers, and three shows were under a million.
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Aww, there goes our fun:( I enjoyed checking the DVR ratings. *sigh*
Me too. It sucks that we won't be able to see them anymore. :(
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Nielsen has also changed their method of calculating Live+7 numbers, which will hurt the CW shows.
How wil it hurt them?
alejandrita439
01-07-2009, 03:40 PM
wow.. it was a bad season for CW :S
wow.. it was a bad season for CW :S
I think the TV Guide is not going to help any. They have stopped putting the CW in the evening grid listings...at least in my area. Every other frigging cable channel is still there, but not the CW.
JAMHEXXX
01-07-2009, 11:44 PM
How wil it hurt them?
Instead of posting the largest percentage increase from Live viewing to Live+7, they now take the top ten largest increases from Live to Live+7, then they average it from there.
Example: Top ten increase viewers from Live to Live+7 by total viewers.
Heroes increased by 3.5 million
Grey's Anatomy increase by 3.2 million
and so on.
Smallville usually has close to 1 Million in Live+7 viewers, but that isn't enough viewers to be included by Nielsen because it isn't in the top Ten of Live+7 viewers.
Does this make any sense to any of y'all, because I went to Happy Hour!
If it doesn't I'll come back tomorrow and post a legible post to explain this bull crap.
I do have a link that shows the top 20 shows according to the internet, and that includes iTunes, Amazon, and many other sites. Basically it shows what TV series was most popular on the net.:cool:
OK, wait I thought of a pretty good example
Legion has 4.7 million viewers (that's my guess by the way).
Legion has 1.5 million Live+7 viewers.
Most would think that Legion would have to be included in the top Ten percentage increase, but you would be wrong because Legion's raw number increase (1.5 mil) wouldn't be enough to make it into the top Ten increase, therefore it would never be considered even thought percentage wise it kicked ass.
Basically what Nielsen is doing is keeping ALL CW shows off of any lists that they provide.
stenochick
01-08-2009, 05:28 AM
Here is how the repeat of "Committed" ranked in total viewership against the rest of the CW's lineup for the week of Monday, December 22, 2008 - Sunday, December 28, 2008. (Please note that Smallville and Supernatural aired on Christmas night, and Smallville did not air a Christmas-themed episode as Supernatural did.)
1. The Flight Before Christmas (special) - 1.84 million viewers
2. Supernatural (R) - 1.60
3. The Story of Santa Claus (special) - 1.57
4. The Revenge of the Pink Panther (movie) - 1.42
5. Everybody Hates Chris (R) - 1.40
6. Smallville (R) - 1.33
7. The Game (R) - 1.26
t. Gossip Girl (R) - 1.26
9. The Game (R, 9:30) - 1.17
10. Everybody Hates Chris (R, 9:00) - 1.16
11. Privileged (R) - 1.11
12. 90210 (R) - 1.06
13. Jericho (R) - 0.95
14. One Tree Hill (R) - 0.83
A lot of people were probably still celebrating Christmas with relatives at 8:00 pm. Even I did not make a point to watch a Smallville rerun on Chirstmas night. I did watch it because I happened to be home by that time and not entertaining guests, and it was Tivo'd so I could watch it after 8pm.
ClarkyBoy14
01-08-2009, 02:23 PM
Instead of posting the largest percentage increase from Live viewing to Live+7, they now take the top ten largest increases from Live to Live+7, then they average it from there.
Example: Top ten increase viewers from Live to Live+7 by total viewers.
Heroes increased by 3.5 million
Grey's Anatomy increase by 3.2 million
and so on.
Smallville usually has close to 1 Million in Live+7 viewers, but that isn't enough viewers to be included by Nielsen because it isn't in the top Ten of Live+7 viewers.
Does this make any sense to any of y'all, because I went to Happy Hour!
If it doesn't I'll come back tomorrow and post a legible post to explain this bull crap.
I do have a link that shows the top 20 shows according to the internet, and that includes iTunes, Amazon, and many other sites. Basically it shows what TV series was most popular on the net.:cool:
OK, wait I thought of a pretty good example
Legion has 4.7 million viewers (that's my guess by the way).
Legion has 1.5 million Live+7 viewers.
Most would think that Legion would have to be included in the top Ten percentage increase, but you would be wrong because Legion's raw number increase (1.5 mil) wouldn't be enough to make it into the top Ten increase, therefore it would never be considered even thought percentage wise it kicked ass.
Basically what Nielsen is doing is keeping ALL CW shows off of any lists that they provide.
Oh, I see now. That makes sense.
It really sucks that they aren't releasing those anymore, because I like seeing them.
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A lot of people were probably still celebrating Christmas with relatives at 8:00 pm. Even I did not make a point to watch a Smallville rerun on Chirstmas night. I did watch it because I happened to be home by that time and not entertaining guests, and it was Tivo'd so I could watch it after 8pm.
Yah, I'm not surprised it was lower than usual. A lot of people probably forgot on Christmas Day, or were doing other things.
Atomic girl
01-08-2009, 02:43 PM
I doubt tonight's repeat will do well considering it's up against the BCS College Bowl between the top 2 teams, except on the West Coast, where it might do well.....
JAMHEXXX
01-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Instead of posting the largest percentage increase from Live viewing to Live+7, they now take the top ten largest increases from Live to Live+7, then they average it from there.
Example: Top ten increase viewers from Live to Live+7 by total viewers.
Heroes increased by 3.5 million
Grey's Anatomy increase by 3.2 million
and so on.
Smallville usually has close to 1 Million in Live+7 viewers, but that isn't enough viewers to be included by Nielsen because it isn't in the top Ten of Live+7 viewers.
Does this make any sense to any of y'all, because I went to Happy Hour!
If it doesn't I'll come back tomorrow and post a legible post to explain this bull crap.
I do have a link that shows the top 20 shows according to the internet, and that includes iTunes, Amazon, and many other sites. Basically it shows what TV series was most popular on the net.:cool:
OK, wait I thought of a pretty good example
Legion has 4.7 million viewers (that's my guess by the way).
Legion has 1.5 million Live+7 viewers.
Most would think that Legion would have to be included in the top Ten percentage increase, but you would be wrong because Legion's raw number increase (1.5 mil) wouldn't be enough to make it into the top Ten increase, therefore it would never be considered even thought percentage wise it kicked ass.
Basically what Nielsen is doing is keeping ALL CW shows off of any lists that they provide.
UHHHHHH.....Nevermind Tv By the Numbers have Live+7 numbers again, it seems as though they found a way to get numbers again. It also appears as though that they went back to the old format for presenting Live+7 numbers.
Forget every thing I said in my earlier post.:rotfl:
origin
01-08-2009, 11:11 PM
UHHHHHH.....Nevermind Tv By the Numbers have Live+7 numbers again, it seems as though they found a way to get numbers again. It also appears as though that they went back to the old format for presenting Live+7 numbers.
Forget every thing I said in my earlier post.:rotfl:
:rotfl:That's hilarious!
Thanks for keeping us informed though JAMHEXXX:D
JAMHEXXX
01-09-2009, 09:20 AM
The numbers for the repeat of Bride: Viewers: 2.30 million; A18-49: 0.9/2.
JFalcon
01-09-2009, 09:27 AM
Without DVR numbers, the rating have no meaning.
I can record three shows at once. The big corporations don't want you using your DVR because you can zip through their ads. Since Nelson gets paid by big corporations, they do what they are told.
marcella
01-09-2009, 09:36 AM
thanks for the information,JAMHEXXX
SparkleforSmallville
01-09-2009, 10:09 AM
The numbers for the repeat of Bride: Viewers: 2.30 million; A18-49: 0.9/2.
That's good for a Smallville repeat. Some CW shows don't get that for new episodes. Berman, just doesn't like Smallville for some reason:/
Yay! for the return of DVR ratings, I just knew they'd find a way!:)
Less than 1 week till "Legion"! *happy dance*
i really think "Legion" could get to 5mil. It has some good promotion, especially on the Comic Book sites.
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This is what Marc Berman said:
Last, and very least, were repeats of the CW’s Smallville (Viewers: 2.30 million; A18-49: 0.9/ 2), which also should finally retire, and Supernatural (Viewers: 1.87 million; A18-49: 0.8/ 2).
6-Super-Man -5
01-09-2009, 12:06 PM
Wow, repeat for "Bride" did well!
CW better stay alive for one more season! (Season Nine :D)
ClarkyBoy14
01-09-2009, 01:54 PM
This is what Marc Berman said:
Last, and very least, were repeats of the CW’s Smallville (Viewers: 2.30 million; A18-49: 0.9/ 2), which also should finally retire, and Supernatural (Viewers: 1.87 million; A18-49: 0.8/ 2).
:rolleyes:
I'm really getting tired of him constantly ripping Smallville. 2.30 million viewers is more than what a NEW episode of Privileged had and almost as much as what the series premiere of 13: Fear Is Real had. It's also higher than Everybody Hates Chris's, Stylista's and The Game's averages. Berman just needs to give it a rest.
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UHHHHHH.....Nevermind Tv By the Numbers have Live+7 numbers again, it seems as though they found a way to get numbers again. It also appears as though that they went back to the old format for presenting Live+7 numbers.
Forget every thing I said in my earlier post.:rotfl:
That's great news. :D
bizzaroboy9
01-09-2009, 03:08 PM
so we will NEVER see the dvr numbers for bride??
SparkleforSmallville
01-09-2009, 04:24 PM
so we will NEVER see the dvr numbers for bride??
I guess not:/
james says:
January 8th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
What happened? I thought y’all couldn’t get these numbers anymore. Any chance we could get the numbers for the weeks prior to these numbers?
Bill Gorman says:
January 8th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
james, we were able to get the numbers again. As to getting past numbers, I’m not going to push our luck.
I'm thinking "Bride's" Live+7 would have been close to 1 mil. more, like "Abyss" was. They were both pre-empted. Darn, I wanted to complete my Chart and post it on the General Ratings thread:(
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I posted it anyway, for the curious who are not avid rating's followers like us:D
tyson08
01-09-2009, 09:28 PM
I'd give it a 4.8 for Live+7's since that seemed to be the consistent number of people Smallville got each week, about 600,000-700,000 more.
UHHHHHH.....Nevermind Tv By the Numbers have Live+7 numbers again, it seems as though they found a way to get numbers again. It also appears as though that they went back to the old format for presenting Live+7 numbers.
Forget every thing I said in my earlier post.:rotfl:
oof!! good news!
I am guesting 4,7 millions for legion and with live+7 over 5 millions ;)
marcella
01-23-2009, 04:41 PM
I think I found the Live+7 ratings:
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="599"><tbody><tr height="65"><td class="xl24" width="33" height="65">Rank</td> <td class="xl24" width="159">Programs</td> <td class="xl24" width="32">Net</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="52">Persons Most Current (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="60">Persons Live+SD (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="54">Persons Live (000s)</td> <td class="xl28" style="text-align: right;" width="49">Same Day DVR Viewers (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="56"> Most Current DVR Viewers (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="54">% of All Viewing By DVR</td> <td class="xl24" style="text-align: right;" width="50">% of DVR Viewing On Airdate</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">1</td> <td class="xl33">OFFICE</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 10,083</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,788</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,261</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,527</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,822</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">28.0%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">54.1%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">2</td> <td class="xl33">90210</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,576</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,086</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,645</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 441</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 931</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">26.0%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">47.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">3</td> <td class="xl33">HEROES</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 10,017</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,665</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,480</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,185</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,537</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">25.3%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">46.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">4</td> <td class="xl33">LIPSTICK JUNGLE</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 5,122</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 4,298</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,979</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 319</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,143</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">22.3%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">27.9%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">5</td> <td class="xl33">AMERICA’S TOP MODEL-5</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 4,345</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,951</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,395</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 556</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 950</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">21.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">58.5%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">6</td> <td class="xl33">HOUSE</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 13,999</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 12,596</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 11,024</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,572</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,975</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">21.3%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">52.8%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">7</td> <td class="xl33">GREY’S ANATOMY-THU 9PM</td> <td class="xl33">ABC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 18,054</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 15,943</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 14,245</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,698</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,809</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">21.1%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">44.6%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">8</td> <td class="xl33">GOSSIP GIRL-MON</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,456</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,108</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,732</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 376</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 724</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">20.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">51.9%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">9</td> <td class="xl33">TERMINATOR: SRH CNR CHRON</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 6,064</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,395</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 4,796</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 599</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,268</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">20.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">47.2%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">10</td> <td class="xl33">FRINGE</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 10,342</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 9,125</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,225</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 900</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,117</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">20.5%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">42.5%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">11</td> <td class="xl33">30 ROCK</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 8,753</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,875</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,008</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 867</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,745</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">49.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">12</td> <td class="xl33">SMALLVILLE</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 4,696</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 4,168</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,765</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 403</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 931</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.8%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">43.3%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">13</td> <td class="xl33">PRISON BREAK</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 6,306</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,682</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,098</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 584</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,208</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.2%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">48.3%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">14</td> <td class="xl33">PRIVILEGED</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 2,191</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,916</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,772</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 144</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 419</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.1%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">34.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">15</td> <td class="xl33">CHUCK</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 7,129</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 6,543</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,808</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 735</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,321</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">18.5%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">55.6%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">16</td> <td class="xl33">SUPERNATURAL</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,765</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,332</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,078</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 254</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 687</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">18.2%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">37.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">17</td> <td class="xl33">BONES</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 11,031</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 10,055</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 9,042</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,013</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,989</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">18.0%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">50.9%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">18</td> <td class="xl33">LIFE</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 6,362</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,614</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,221</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 393</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,141</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">17.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">34.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">19</td> <td class="xl33">ONE TREE HILL-MON</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,444</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,150</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,831</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 319</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 613</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">17.8%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">52.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">20</td> <td class="xl33">PRIVATE PRACTICE</td> <td class="xl33">ABC</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,571</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,766</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,098</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 668</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,473</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">17.2%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">45.3%</td></tr></tbody></table>
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/16/greys-anatomy-has-most-season-to-date-dvr-viewers-office-has-greatest-of-viewing-by-dvr/9271#more-9271
Seems that is 4,696 million
ClarkyBoy14
01-23-2009, 09:07 PM
What do they mean by "most current"?
tyson08
01-23-2009, 10:28 PM
Great find, Marcella!
JAMHEXXX
01-24-2009, 10:10 AM
I think I found the Live+7 ratings:
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="599"><tbody><tr height="65"><td class="xl24" width="33" height="65">Rank</td> <td class="xl24" width="159">Programs</td> <td class="xl24" width="32">Net</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="52">Persons Most Current (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="60">Persons Live+SD (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="54">Persons Live (000s)</td> <td class="xl28" style="text-align: right;" width="49">Same Day DVR Viewers (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="56"> Most Current DVR Viewers (000s)</td> <td class="xl25" style="text-align: right;" width="54">% of All Viewing By DVR</td> <td class="xl24" style="text-align: right;" width="50">% of DVR Viewing On Airdate</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">1</td> <td class="xl33">OFFICE</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 10,083</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,788</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,261</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,527</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,822</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">28.0%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">54.1%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">2</td> <td class="xl33">90210</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,576</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,086</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,645</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 441</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 931</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">26.0%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">47.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">3</td> <td class="xl33">HEROES</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 10,017</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,665</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,480</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,185</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,537</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">25.3%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">46.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">4</td> <td class="xl33">LIPSTICK JUNGLE</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 5,122</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 4,298</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,979</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 319</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,143</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">22.3%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">27.9%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">5</td> <td class="xl33">AMERICA’S TOP MODEL-5</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 4,345</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,951</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,395</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 556</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 950</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">21.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">58.5%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">6</td> <td class="xl33">HOUSE</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 13,999</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 12,596</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 11,024</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,572</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,975</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">21.3%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">52.8%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">7</td> <td class="xl33">GREY’S ANATOMY-THU 9PM</td> <td class="xl33">ABC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 18,054</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 15,943</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 14,245</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,698</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,809</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">21.1%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">44.6%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">8</td> <td class="xl33">GOSSIP GIRL-MON</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,456</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,108</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,732</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 376</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 724</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">20.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">51.9%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">9</td> <td class="xl33">TERMINATOR: SRH CNR CHRON</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 6,064</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,395</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 4,796</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 599</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,268</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">20.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">47.2%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">10</td> <td class="xl33">FRINGE</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 10,342</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 9,125</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,225</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 900</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,117</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">20.5%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">42.5%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">11</td> <td class="xl33">30 ROCK</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 8,753</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,875</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,008</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 867</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,745</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">49.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">12</td> <td class="xl33">SMALLVILLE</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 4,696</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 4,168</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,765</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 403</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 931</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.8%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">43.3%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">13</td> <td class="xl33">PRISON BREAK</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 6,306</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,682</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,098</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 584</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,208</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.2%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">48.3%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">14</td> <td class="xl33">PRIVILEGED</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 2,191</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,916</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,772</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 144</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 419</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">19.1%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">34.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">15</td> <td class="xl33">CHUCK</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 7,129</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 6,543</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,808</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 735</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,321</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">18.5%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">55.6%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">16</td> <td class="xl33">SUPERNATURAL</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,765</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,332</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,078</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 254</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 687</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">18.2%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">37.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">17</td> <td class="xl33">BONES</td> <td class="xl33">FOX</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 11,031</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 10,055</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 9,042</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 1,013</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,989</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">18.0%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">50.9%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">18</td> <td class="xl33">LIFE</td> <td class="xl33">NBC</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 6,362</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,614</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 5,221</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 393</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,141</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">17.9%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">34.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">19</td> <td class="xl33">ONE TREE HILL-MON</td> <td class="xl33">CW</td> <td class="xl31" align="right"> 3,444</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 3,150</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 2,831</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 319</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 613</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">17.8%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">52.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl27" height="16">20</td> <td class="xl33">PRIVATE PRACTICE</td> <td class="xl33">ABC</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 8,571</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,766</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 7,098</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 668</td> <td class="xl26" align="right"> 1,473</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">17.2%</td> <td class="xl30" align="right">45.3%</td></tr></tbody></table>
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/16/greys-anatomy-has-most-season-to-date-dvr-viewers-office-has-greatest-of-viewing-by-dvr/9271#more-9271
Seems that is 4,696 million
Those aren't the Live+7 numbers for Bride.Those are season to date numbers.
marcella
01-24-2009, 10:23 AM
Really?
Is this the average of the season?
bartez
01-30-2009, 05:17 AM
does someone can explain me what kind of ratings it is? is live+7 for bride?
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/21/thursday-ratings-life-on-mars-and-eleventh-hour-drop-30-rock-and-er-hold-up/8570
SparkleforSmallville
02-04-2009, 11:37 AM
does someone can explain me what kind of ratings it is? is live+7 for bride?
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/21/thursday-ratings-life-on-mars-and-eleventh-hour-drop-30-rock-and-er-hold-up/8570
I'll try.
This rating for Bride was the overnight rating always posted the Morning after an episode. Because of all of the Football games, pre-empting Bride, in some markets, the Final rating dropped to 4.19mil. The overnight of 4.77mil is not Bride's Live+7(which we never got), but would probably be a good estimate. We are posting estimates in the "Power" ratings thread.
Maybe, we can find some closure for Bride.:LOL:
----- Added 3 Minutes later -----
Here's what was said the morning after Bride: Posted on 21 November 2008 by Robert Seidman
Note: Smallville and Supernatural fans, the numbers below for your shows are sadly a bit meaningless for now because last night’s NFL Network game between Cincinnati and Pittsburgh aired on the CW affiliated in the Pittsburgh market. The way the overnight numbers are tabulated, even though both Smallville and Supernatural were preempted for the football game, the viewing for the football game in the local Pittsburgh market is counted in the numbers below. The Pittsburgh viewing will be removed from the final numbers and those totals will drop.
bartez
02-04-2009, 12:34 PM
tvbythenumbers published only first ten live+7, and there wasn't smallville. so we will never know what was the final rating for Bride
Luiz Fernando
02-04-2009, 02:53 PM
I'm sorry, but the 4,67 of Bride cant be the season Live+7 average, because the average of the nine first episodes was 4,75. If the average of the 10 first episodes was 4,67, it could mean that Bride only have 3,95 millions in the Live+7, and it is impossible, because this episode had 4.19 in the first numbers, and Smallville always grow up more less 0.6 in it's ratings in the Live + 7
So I think that the rating of 8.10 Bride was 4,67, and not the Season Average.
A Hug!
SparkleforSmallville
02-04-2009, 03:32 PM
^^^I haven't actually averaged the Season myself. This their calculations, and they could be wrong on their Season averages. But, there is no data out that has Bride's Live+7. Not that I have seen, hence my suggestion that we come to an agreement on an estimate to get some closure.:)
I'll probably never stop looking for the actual rating:lol:
Is that hug for me or do you need a hug?
bartez
02-11-2009, 11:49 PM
i asked robert seidman from TVByTheNumbers:
can we ever get live+7 for bride?
Robert Seidman says:
February 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
unfortunately this time period is a “black hole” in our DVR live+7 data. sorry.
SparkleforSmallville
02-12-2009, 11:02 AM
i asked robert seidman from TVByTheNumbers:
can we ever get live+7 for bride?
Robert Seidman says:
February 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
unfortunately this time period is a “black hole” in our DVR live+7 data. sorry.
Aww, thanks for asking. "Black Hole" is quite definite! I just have to let it go!
Hearing we are getting an SV Season 9 would help alot!:lol:
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