What stage of grief are you at?

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Denial? You all think this is only going to be temporary, that she must get her memory back because without her memory of Clark, this show isn't Smallville, and she isn't Chloe Sullivan. You just can't believe that this will be permanent.


Anger? You're furious at Clark for taking her memories away or furious at TPTB be for writing away a huge part of Chloe's character.


Bargaining? What if Clark hadn't taken her powers? What if things hadn't chaged? Chloe would have been whole and sound if she still had her memories of Clark, right?


Sadness? This loss just makes you want to cry, you feel like someone has died.


Acceptance? You realise Chloe was never going to be part of Supermans life, she won't even be part of Jimmy's life. Chloe will leave Smallville and Metropolis for good someday, and soon it will be just Clark, Lois and Jimmy. Oh, and Lex.



I don't think a poll would really justify this thread, if because of nothing else, you are probably going to feel different tommorow.

What is especially difficult is that even if you do accept it; Smallville hasn't finnished yet and none of us know exactly how Chloe's story is going to finnish. There may be a glimmer of hope of Chlarkers or perhaps something worse will happen to her, who really knows?:confused::(

[Aloof]

Definitely anger. >:[

[Lonnie]

Denial - You all think this is only going to be temporary, that she must get her memory back because without her memory of Clark, this show isn't Smallville, and she isn't Chloe Sullivan. You just can't believe that this will be permanent.

... it just can't be... :(

[umm]

[QUOTE]
Denial? You all think this is only going to be temporary, that she must get her memory back because without her memory of Clark, this show isn't Smallville, and she isn't Chloe Sullivan. You just can't believe that this will be permanent.
Anger? You're furious at Clark for taking her memories away or furious at TPTB be for writing away a huge part of Chloe's character.
Bargaining? What if Clark hadn't taken her powers? What if things hadn't chaged? Chloe would have been whole and sound if she still had her memories of Clark, right?
Sadness? This loss just makes you want to cry, you feel like someone has died.
Acceptance? You realise Chloe was never going to be part of Supermans life, she won't even be part of Jimmy's life. Chloe will leave Smallville and Metropolis for good someday, and soon it will be just Clark, Lois and Jimmy. Oh, and Lex.

I am currently at denial, anger and sadness! I will never go through bargaining and acceptance, cause those awful writers don't deserve it! This better not be a permanent development!

[lm1212]

Somewhere in between acceptance and sadness

[The Great Ymmij]

Acceptance.

[pizzahead2490]

sadness and acceptance

[cousteau]

just double checking. Is this thread here? really?

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

just double checking. Is this thread here? really?

why ever shouldn't it be? :)


@Everyone else, i'm hovering paradoxically between acceptance and denial. I always knew someday Chloe wouldn't be a part of Clarks life, i can't believe it happenned like this though, or so soon.

[msjade16]

Denial is my friend.

But I definitely feel anger and sadness. A huge loss.:mad::(

[cousteau]

we have some guy perpetuating the mind rape thing, we have hopeful suicide saying the episode is an affront to feminism, we have another guy saying he was was actually happy to see someone die and found chloe's loss of memory sadder, and now we're having a thread on the stages of acceptance?

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

we have some guy perpetuating the mind rape thing, we have hopeful suicide saying the episode is an affront to feminism, we have another guy saying he was was actually happy to see someone die and found chloe's loss of memory sadder, and now we're having a thread on the stages of acceptance?



Smallville fans are an emotional bunch. :p

[cousteau]

Smallville fans are an emotional bunch. :p

Maybe, but good grief...let's have a little perspective here.

[dru-zod2501]

i passed most of the stages before the season even started; I've been in acceptance mode since Odessey.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Maybe, but good grief...let's have a little perspective here.

I know what you mean, i just thought that this thread would cut to the center of how people feel about it.

There seems to be 2 angry threads, a denial thread, 2 sad threads, a deal-with-it thread.

No bargaining threads mind you. :lol:

The five stages of grief is what i think is responsible for this. ;)

[cousteau]

I'm half tempted to create a "good grief people, if you don't like it anymore - set your tivo to only record supernatural" thread.

[devilneedsaride]

Anger :mad:

I love the way the season's going otherwise, but I can't believe TPTB would do this to Chloe's character, would NEGATE four years of plot and character development for one of the best characters on television, and totally destroy one of the most fun relationships out there.

They better fix it. Seriously. Rawr.

[Lazy Boy]

why ever shouldn't it be? :)


@Everyone else, i'm hovering paradoxically between acceptance and denial. I always knew someday Chloe wouldn't be a part of Clarks life, i can't believe it happenned like this though, or so soon.

I'm more in denial like you said it happened so soon but for me it's too soon in the season. It make me think that PS3 has something up their sleeve for later on in the season so quite content at being in denial. :)

[AndrewVDk]

Sadness? This loss just makes me want to cry, I feel like someone has died.

[umm]

Anger :mad:(...)They better fix it. Seriously. Rawr.

Agree! And to add some denial, they will fix it, they will, they have to!!!!:(:mad::mad:

[WalkinDude]

mod edit

[justins_ghirl]

Somewhere in between acceptance and sadness

yeah im the same here!
i know that this is what has to happen in order for clark to become superman but i feel sad over it!
like clark said everyone who knows about his powers leave him or die and he's sacrificing his friendship to save her and get on with his destiny! :(

[WalkinDude]

And I've also noticed that a lot of people on here [Mod Edit] Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Threads like "worst season of smallville ever" and "stupidest scene in smallville." They're just completely unnecessary and [Mod Edit].

[AndrewVDk]

And I've also noticed that a lot of people on here [Mod Edit]
Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Threads like "worst season of smallville ever" and "stupidest scene in smallville." They're just completely unnecessary and [Mod Edit] .

:rolleyes:
If you don't like those threads you shouldn't come in them!

[lm1212]

Yeah, I'm sad, but the world isn't over, guys. Calm down... maybe a just a little?

I understand how strong Clark and Chloe's friendship was when she knew the secret, so yeah it's a bit sad. But, there's no huge crime in taking a character's memories who isn't even in the real comics? I love Chloe's character, don't get me wrong, but there's no rules that PS3 can break with her, ya know? AND there's always the possibility that those memories will come back to her in a later episode.

I think the PS3 knows what they are doing, so the story isn't ruined. Give em credit, I'm sure it'll play out well enough, whatever they decide.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

And I've also noticed that a lot of people on here [Mod Edit]
Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Threads like "worst season of smallville ever" and "stupidest scene in smallville." They're just completely unnecessary and [Mod Edit] .

Everyone is entitled to vent their opinion! :p

[Iluvgreen]

Denial and Sadness.

[Who]

Denial and Acceptance. I'm curious as to how this is going to play out. I'm not quiet convinced Chloe's memory is gone forever, but if it is, so be it.

[zorasuperman]

sadness
because i feel that it wasnt fair for chloes memories to be erased as it was.
although i understand clark in his entirety and WHY he did it. doesnt mean that i agee with what he did, or agree with his viewpoint. just that i see his point/view

[Just Another Guy]

A. The idea that Chloe should not be a part of Superman's life is a bit ludicrous. "Smallville" has redefined everything-- EVERYTHING-- about Superman, and Chloe has always been the highlight of that. The argument that she isn't supposed to be a part of Superman's life is verging on ridiculous.

Why? Because (1.) Lois isn't supposed to meet Clark until he goes to work at the Planet, (2.) Clark is supposed to wear glasses when he meets all these people, (3.) Brainiac, Bizarro, and Zod are all supposed to encounter him after he becomes a hero, (4.) Superman is supposed to be a founding member of the League, at least preceding Green Arrow and (most certainly) Cyborg, (5.) Kara is not supposed to make her first appearance on Earth or learn to fly before Clark becomes Superman (or flies himself)... Shall I go on?

B. To those who say, "If you don't like it, quit watching": That only works if one complains about everything. This is one vital part of the show that only just took place. You could just as easily ignore our complaints.

Not being rude. Just... saying that you could.

[Imzadia]

"The Five Stages of Grief", YES! I almost thought that I couldn't respond to this Thread. I'm one of those 'emotional' Smallville fans, which is Why I became a fan of the series in the first place. If I don't make an emotional link to a story, I'll soon lose interest. So, here we are and here I am, still feeling ALL of the Stages of Grief simultaneously!

It's still all jumbled up for me. Mostly though, I feel Sad. A friendship is an 'entity' that's kept alive by the people who share it. So, I too, feel like someone has died. Everyone needs a Loved and Trusted Confidante. Access to a relationship like that is having access to 'an emotional salve' whenever the need arises. Chloe and Clark were that for each other, IMO. Also, I admire and understand Clark's Selflessness in making the decision he made hoping to protect Chloe from any more harm. His sacrifice only accentuates the genuine purity of his love for Chloe.

Nevertheless, I'm also holding on to Denial, because I have hope that Chloe will recover her complete memory of Clark and the depth of the friendship they had shared. I also feel some suspicion that PS3 did this because they may have some wonderful way of Soothing this Loss later in the season that could be satisfying to most fans.

However, I've always felt that Chloe would leave at some point, or die tragically and Clark wouldn't be able to save her, thereby creating another pshchological and emotional pivotal point in Clark's journey toward becoming Superman. It would also become a method to Align Smallville's CK/Superman story with the Mythos, explaining Chloe's absence in Clark's future.

It's ALL of the above for me, which qualifies a right to be Acknowledged. Although we're talking about a Fictitious story set in a fictitious universe with fictitious people, we're experiencing Very Real Feelings about it. So, this thread was a Great Idea, IMO, and this discussion will help many who'll discover it here, work through it all and to wait until we see what happens next. Thanks, Marcus.

[Bre723]

everything but acceptance =(

[Hopefulsuicide]

anger, denial and depression... a long with a little bit of 'who can i blame'

[Misstaken]

I'm just left wondering how it will pan out in the next few episodes.

I can't say I'm sad or angry or anything else, because I don't know what the ramifications of that action will be.

I'm just REALLY eager to see what happens next.

If Chloe recovers her memory, so be it. If she doesn't, it's not all that bad. I just hope they have something in store for her character - anything different or surprising.

I'm glad this happened because it's been a while since a Smallville episode has left me wondering about what was going to happen next and really... it's a great feeling!

It may not be the greatest thing ever or the best turn of events in terms of writing, but I can't say I'm not intrigued.

[abbaspice1]

Acceptance.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I don't do 'denial' so when I tell you I don't think it is going to permanent I say that from a place of, well, common sense. I don't think it makes sense to make it permanent, and if it is, I guess I'll deal with it then.

So I didn't vote, because mine is 'Common Sense Dictates That It Isn't Permanent'

[Tatiana]

Acceptance, it is sad yes...because it was cool she knew how powerful he is, but she is still the sweet and smart woman we all fell in love with before she knew his secret, she actually seemed happier, like she isn't carrying that weight on her shoulders anymore. I wanna see how they handle their relationship from now on. I think they will still be best friends.

[Jeri1250]

I'm at acceptance because altho he took away her memory of his powers, he hasn't taken away her memories of him. Altho this makes me wonder if he also took away her knowledge of her own healing abilities, if she still had them post-Brainiac.

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

ISo I didn't vote, because mine is 'Common Sense Dictates That It Isn't Permanent'


River in Egypt :rotfl:

[justincredible]

acceptance I knew this was coming

[kris10]

everything except acceptance...havent we been down this boring road before of her not knowing the secret? ITA with a prior poster about the mythos argument is moot b/c this show doesnt even come close to matching the mythos AT ALL..almost all the characters that are currently on right now SHOULDNT BE....especially how they relate to clark now need i say more?

[Clarky123]

100% happiness? :)

[davidbrenton]

This thread should have a poll.

I'm between sadness and acceptance.

[Randy G.]

I'm half tempted to create a "good grief people, if you don't like it anymore - set your tivo to only record supernatural" thread.

Well, since it would go against one of our most basic RULES (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/announcement.php?f=30&a=13) (that everyone should be familiar with), the thread wouldn't be there very long. ;)

[lrog127]

just double checking. Is this thread here? really?

:rotfl:
THis is probebly not meant to be a funny thread, but it's sooo funny!!!

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I'm sad, but will soon move on to acceptance...
I'm okay with it.

[theartist27]

I'm perfectly happy.:)

[oqllcksmallville]

Denial - You all think this is only going to be temporary, that she must get her memory back because without her memory of Clark, this show isn't Smallville, and she isn't Chloe Sullivan. You just can't believe that this will be permanent.

... it just can't be... :(
me too !
i cant believe they are doing this .
SHE MUST GET HER MEMORY BACK .
SHE HAS TO !
PLEASE , SHE HAS TOO !

[Tatiana]

I'm at acceptance because altho he took away her memory of his powers, he hasn't taken away her memories of him. Altho this makes me wonder if he also took away her knowledge of her own healing abilities, if she still had them post-Brainiac.

That's a great question, I hadn't thought about that. I hope they answer that in the future episodes.

[Fallen One]

Which stage is euphoria?

[Violet-Shadow]

Fairly apathetic.

[xrayvision]

Denial - You all think this is only going to be temporary, that she must get her memory back because without her memory of Clark, this show isn't Smallville, and she isn't Chloe Sullivan. You just can't believe that this will be permanent.

... it just can't be... :(

I say this show is more Smallville than it's ever been. Clark fans like me have been very angry over the past several years because the character who makes this show was being torn down year after year at the benefit of Chloe. My thoughts are that it was an unnatural state of the show and Al/Miles set Clark fans like myself up for disappointment all those years and ultimately set up Chloe fans for disappointment. Personally, I loved Chloe the most when she didn't know the secret and when she was characterized as "Miss Can't Do Wrong". I have high hopes that I will once again like her just as much as I once did.

[elise]

Denial, and sadness.
If Chloe doesn't get her memory back, to me she's just not Chloe Sullivan. Sure, it'll be fun for a few episodes to see what things would be like if she never found out. Just like back in high school. But not forever, she really has to get he memory back. She can know the truth about Clark, without him running to her whenever she has a problem. Perhaps while her memory is gone her can learn to 'fend for himself'. And he'll continue to after Chloe's memory comes back. And yeah, I know there's meant to be no Chloe in the end. But there are other ways of acheiving this without beutchering her character.

[mysticalweather]

I was very angry at first. I still don't think it was up to Clark to make that kind of a decision...not unSupermanlike (new word? ;) ) granted, but I stilll wasn't happy.

OTOH, ethical issues aside...this may be really good for Clark's character development. Now he'll have to be even more proactive...relying more on himself, and not on Chloe anymore.

I'm in wait-and-see mode as yet.

[migo]

How about "meh"?

I don't care what they do, I really just watch Smallville passively now, there's no point in getting emotionally involved with any of the characters anymore.

[Just Another Guy]

How about "meh"?

I don't care what they do, I really just watch Smallville passively now, there's no point in getting emotionally involved with any of the characters anymore.
And yet you post on a message forum?

[6-Super-Man -5]

This thread should have a poll.

I'm between sadness and acceptance.

Same here.

[Stu.Kent]

indifference? i suppose that's acceptance

[HeartChakraBabe]

There's not acceptance going on here! Anger, denial, and sadness sound about right, though. Mostly anger and denial. I refuse to believe it's permanent.

[justme_007]

denial

[susangail]

Sadness. Not for Chloe, actually, but for Clark.

[kal-el_Girl]

;)I'm still in denial and I refuse to read any spoilers so I basically keep thinking that she's going to get all those clark memories back

[Eurynome]

In over a month, I don't think my feelings have changed. I was so upset and angry at the writers when I saw this, and I still am. She best get her memories back! :mad:

[unfocused]

Which stage is euphoria?

:lol:


I say this show is more Smallville than it's ever been. Clark fans like me have been very angry over the past several years because the character who makes this show was being torn down year after year at the benefit of Chloe. My thoughts are that it was an unnatural state of the show and Al/Miles set Clark fans like myself up for disappointment all those years and ultimately set up Chloe fans for disappointment. Personally, I loved Chloe the most when she didn't know the secret and when she was characterized as "Miss Can't Do Wrong". I have high hopes that I will once again like her just as much as I once did.

And other fans who have enjoyed the show then are still enjoying it, more than ever, now :)

[pizzahead2490]

acceptance =)

[Fallen One]

I'm still in euphoria, James. After all this time.

[unfocused]

I found that particularly funny because I came here to say the exact same thing, word for word :)

[stenochick]

I say this show is more Smallville than it's ever been. Clark fans like me have been very angry over the past several years because the character who makes this show was being torn down year after year at the benefit of Chloe. My thoughts are that it was an unnatural state of the show and Al/Miles set Clark fans like myself up for disappointment all those years and ultimately set up Chloe fans for disappointment. Personally, I loved Chloe the most when she didn't know the secret and when she was characterized as "Miss Can't Do Wrong". I have high hopes that I will once again like her just as much as I once did.

I just stumbled in here, but since they just re-aired Abyss last Thursday, it is timely.

ITA with this post. Clark hasn't been the same since season 5 and in retrospect, I think it was because his character was sacrificed in the service of Chloe, Lana, and to a lesser degree, Kara.

I couldn't put my finger on it. I blamed it on the loss of Jonathon Kent or the protracted Clana saga, but at the end of the day, Clark was made to look dumb and dependent by always going to Chloe for answers and pep talks, especially in season 7.

I'm as feminist as they get so I don't think it is very fair for Chloe, with the purest of intentions, to get so entangled in Clark's business that Clark feels he has to rescue her in such a radical way without her knowledge.

I think she should have been completely open with him all along. I know it is her life, but she is in over her head because of her friendship with Clark. She and Clark could have come to some kind arrangement without Clark having to resort to "mind rape" as some have called it. But, I guess it makes for more dramatic story-telling to have Chloe be totally secretive and for Clark to erase her memories.

I think the lesson for Clark is, if Chloe wants to be a martyr, then that's her decision. Clark does not have to feel guilty for that or try to rescue her or take something from her that she considers dear to her against her will. That is Clark's fatal weakness, not Kryptonite.

The FOS scene between Clark and Jor-el over Chloe's body was Clark's way of saying, "Okay, Chloe, I got it from here. You can live your own life now and find your happiness. I'm sorry I was so codependent on you."

I would have preferred a conversation since in real life we don't get all these do-overs that Jor-el gives Clark. But, hey, this is PS3's way of setting things right for Clark's character even if Chloe's selective amnesia turns out to be short-lived.