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gkl73
11-15-2008, 01:27 PM
I've heard a few people say that they thought Chloe losing her memories of Clark's secret is the saddest moment in Smallville history, but what do you think? Feel free to suggest an instance I may have forgotten. My vote is actually for the death of Jonathan Kent.

Routh
11-15-2008, 01:28 PM
Uh, yeah. I don't think so. It was kind of touching, but it just doesn't resonate with me. Christ, it's not like someone died. Chloe forgot something... and?

I'd have to say the final moment in Vengeance, paired with the JK's death in Reckoning.

Kevin24
11-15-2008, 01:29 PM
Chloe losing her memory was sad but not even close to the death of Jonathan Kent.

virginie
11-15-2008, 01:30 PM
I've heard a few people say that they thought Chloe losing her memories of Clark's secret is the saddest moment in Smallville history

i agree. it was so sad i was almost crying...:(:(:(
i want her to know it again until the end of the season

Billy Jor-El
11-15-2008, 01:31 PM
What about Ryan (wasn't that his name?). His dying was certainly a sad moment.

I'm holding hope for a fully recovered Chloe. If she remains clueless about Kal-El, then yes, the show has changed dramatically for the worse.....

Smallville6
11-15-2008, 01:34 PM
Losing memories isn't even close to someone you love dieing.
Jonathon's death was the saddest moment in SV ever.

AndrewVDk
11-15-2008, 01:35 PM
It's Chloe Sullivan losing her memories, for me!
I was happy when Jonathan Kent died, he was always so annoying!

jimmyolsenblues
11-15-2008, 01:39 PM
the funeral for john kent while the song I grieve played was by far the saddest moment on all of tv for me.

marikology
11-15-2008, 01:42 PM
Jonathan's death wins it, hands down. The thing about it to me is I think "Vengeance" is actually sadder than Reckoning, because we get to see Clark's reaction. SV very rarely shows us the aftermath of these traumatic events that Clark goes through, but they nailed it with that one.

I don't even think Chloe's memory loss will stick, so it's not that sad for me.

Dor el
11-15-2008, 01:52 PM
I'd have to say the final moment in Vengeance, paired with the JK's death in Reckoning.

So true.

Guidron
11-15-2008, 02:10 PM
My vote goes to Pa Kents death. Chloe losing her memory of Clark's abilities is a close second though.

ginnyfan
11-15-2008, 02:13 PM
The death of Jonathan Kent by far.

FlashInSV
11-15-2008, 02:13 PM
I believe Chloe's mindwipe was incredibly sad and especially annoying. A major stepback!
But it comes second (a very close second) to Pa Kent's death. :(



It's Chloe Sullivan losing her memories, for me!
I was happy when Jonathan Kent died, he was always so annoying!


Dude! You can't say things like that and disrespect the dead! :eek:

davidbrenton
11-15-2008, 02:17 PM
I voted Chloe hands down. I did not like the writing, concept or directing of the Jonathon Kent episode. It felt very artificially handled and left me emotionless.

Chloe's scene on the other hand was the only time I can remember actually feeling sad (a couple seconds of an almost tear).

lilkoolmaria
11-15-2008, 02:18 PM
Jonathan's death was definitely the saddest moment by a long shot. :(

tyson08
11-15-2008, 02:35 PM
I felt Jonathon's death could and should have been more dramatic. It just wasn't as sad as I thought it would be.

Lonnie
11-15-2008, 02:39 PM
Well I don't know if I can count the thing with Chloe as one of the saddest moments really, especially compared to all the deaths, but more like the worst thing that's happend on the show.

umm
11-15-2008, 03:06 PM
Well I don't know if I can count the thing with Chloe as one of the saddest moments really, especially compared to all the deaths, but more like the worst thing that's happend on the show.


Just because she hasn't died doesn't mean she isn't dead! Memories equal identity, identity equals life and humanity, by stripping away Chloe's memories Clark has stripped away her identity and that is one cruel death! If she has any selfpride, she will cast him off as her bestfriend as soon as she regains her memories back, should that ever happen that is! How can he sleep at night, is beyond me?

msjade16
11-15-2008, 03:14 PM
Papa Kent's death takes the saddest vote for me. Chloe losing her memories of Clark's secrets was an extremely sad moment, but it falls more into the category of "Worse Moment in SV" than "Saddest", imo.

I wish we could have been able to pick more than one. Was I the only one saddened by Alicia and Lionel's death?

cousteau
11-15-2008, 03:15 PM
Papa Kent's death takes the saddest vote for me. Chloe losing her memories of Clark's secrets was an extremely sad moment, but it falls more into the category of "Worse Moment in SV" than "Saddest", imo.

I wish we could have been able to pick more than one. Was I the only one saddened by Alicia and Lionel's death?

I always liked lionel. I held the man and the actor in great affection, as Mr. Glover was one of the few bright spots in the past 7 years.

lanalang1018
11-15-2008, 03:23 PM
John's death, hands down. I bawled my eyes out during that episode.

Chloe's memory loss is a tragedy, but the writer's know what their doing. They've proved that they can hold their own this season and they have far surpassed the previous seasons IMO.

zHeN_zHeN
11-15-2008, 03:25 PM
Death is the ultimate worst thing that could have happened to Chloe. Instead, she lost her memories--memories, that she can happily live without. In the end, Chloe was happy. Besides, there's still that chance that she'll regain those memories again. But, Jonthan is gone and never coming back, which is far worse than a (possibly temporary) memory loss. At least, Chloe is still alive and no longer carries the burden of Clark's secret.

Clark knew what he was doing and didn't even shed a tear. Why? Because sometimes you have to be "cruel to be kind." He did it to protect Chloe and that's what a REAL friend would do.


Yes, indeed it was one of the saddest moments in SV history. But, I'd rather have Chloe alive and happy, instead of dead and gone forever.

Lazy Boy
11-15-2008, 03:25 PM
As much I was sadden by this episode, the episode with Jonathan Kent wins my vote.

costas22
11-15-2008, 03:31 PM
Jonathan's death without a doubt.It's been 3 years and i still miss him.John Schneider wasn't the best actor on the show but everytime he gave advice to Clark it felt like he was giving it to the audience as well.He connected with the fans in a unique way.To this day,i feel that the show lost a lot of it's innocence when he left.

theartist27
11-15-2008, 03:37 PM
The death of Jonathan Kent was the saddest day in Smallville history(still miss him to this day). Followed by the end of Lex and Clark's friendship, followed by the death of Lionel Luthor. Chloe's memories of Clark's secret being erased was not a sad moment for me. I was actually pretty happy. However, I won't rule out the possibility of her memories returning one day, but if they never return, I won't cry about it.:\

Lonnie
11-15-2008, 04:29 PM
Just because she hasn't died doesn't mean she isn't dead! Memories equal identity, identity equals life and humanity, by stripping away Chloe's memories Clark has stripped away her identity and that is one cruel death! If she has any selfpride, she will cast him off as her bestfriend as soon as she regains her memories back, should that ever happen that is! How can he sleep at night, is beyond me?
Whoa where did this come from? I think what that Chloe lost her memory is the worst thing that ever happend! It's completely destroyed the show for me. Chloe & Clark's friendship is the heart of the show and she absolutely must regain her memories. And now. I'm devistated by this whole thing :(

But I still don't think it's the saddest - in that way. Probably also because I'm in denial and think she will get her memories back.

zorasuperman
11-15-2008, 04:52 PM
jonathan kents death by far

the other choices like lex and clarks friendship was destiny for those two to turn against each other. so its not like we didnt know it was coming or anything. and although chloe losing her memories, is sad, dont' get me wrong, i was just as sad as anybody else, still losing your memory is nothing even in comparision to having your dad died. at least chloe has a second chance, poor jonathan kent did not. chloe could eventually down the road might learn clarks secret, or maybe not. but at least she gets to see clark, and be his BFF. jonathan kent can never be with clark again and such.

Iluvgreen
11-15-2008, 05:02 PM
Why can't this poll be more than one choice. It's too hard to choose....

OneShotClois
11-15-2008, 07:35 PM
Hmm. Saddest moment would be Jonathan Kent dieing. I literally cried.

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Whoa where did this come from? I think what that Chloe lost her memory is the worst thing that ever happend! It's completely destroyed the show for me. Chloe & Clark's friendship is the heart of the show and she absolutely must regain her memories. And now. I'm devistated by this whole thing :(

But I still don't think it's the saddest - in that way. Probably also because I'm in denial and think she will get her memories back.

Yes, Chloe's memory loss is a little sad, I must agree. But all of a sudden you lost all hope for their relationship? I'm a little baffled I must say. Chloe may not know Clark's secret anymore, but she's still his bestfriend. She still has memories of them together throughout the years, just not any with him using his powers. In the future, Clark can tell Chloe when he's ready instead of her finding out on her own like before. Isn't that much better? I think so.

Hopefulsuicide
11-15-2008, 07:47 PM
progeny always comes to mind when i think of the most emotional i have ever gotten in a Smallville episode... watching Chloe as her mother faded away in front of her... it was heart breaking

HumanoidCorvin
11-15-2008, 07:49 PM
The last scene of Memoria, when Clark is talking about Lara, the song My Immortal is playing the background.

LovelyLoisLane
11-15-2008, 07:52 PM
Losing memories isn't even close to someone you love dieing.
Jonathon's death was the saddest moment in SV ever.

Yeah I'll have to agree, and I think that lost memories can be regained, but a dead father is a dead father.

I wrote a scene once of a young girl and her dying father. I cried and cried and 'I'M' the one that wrote it!

I voted death of Jonathan Kent as well.

Though I will say that I found the "Lex Birthday Party' scene from Memoria to a be a tear jerker. That episode as a whole was sad.

The whole Chloe-Memory thing was just, everybody seemed cool and happy at the end, so that made me feel strange about it but it was definitely sad.

Hopefulsuicide
11-15-2008, 07:54 PM
Yeah I'll have to agree, and I think that lost memories can be regained, but a dead father is a dead father.

you obviously have not watched or read enough sci-fi/fantasy :lol:

LovelyLoisLane
11-15-2008, 07:58 PM
you obviously have not watched or read enough sci-fi/fantasy :lol:

I have, actually, I write sci-fi fantasy, but I don't hold to the BS of 'convenient' reanimation.

I like it better when they make it realistic, it makes life much more precious a thing.
You can't imagine how many times I've gotten into arguments on the Forgotten Realms boards. Thankfully the canon in FR regarding resurrection is loose enough that you can decide for yourself. So I make it a RARE RARE thing that is pretty much done ONLY by the gods maybe five times ever in the history of the universe for exceedinly special reasons.

Death is a permanent. To me. And since Jonathan isn't coming back in the way that lost memories can, it is far more sad.

Sweetie
11-15-2008, 08:02 PM
Johnathan's death.I loved that guy,he was such a good father,protecting his son at every cost.I still miss him and more than ever now that CK doesn't have a mother anymore.

Lionel's death: I liked him very much when he was a bad guy and even when became good he was still an interesting character.This is hard to accomplish.

Hopefulsuicide
11-15-2008, 08:02 PM
I have, actually, I write sci-fi fantasy, but I don't hold to the BS of 'convenient' reanimation.

I like it better when they make it realistic, it makes life much more precious a thing.
You can't imagine how many times I've gotten into arguments on the Forgotten Realms boards. Thankfully the canon in FR regarding resurrection is loose enough that you can decide for yourself. So I make it a RARE RARE thing that is pretty much done ONLY by the gods maybe five times ever in the history of the universe for exceedinly special reasons.

Death is a permanent. To me. And since Jonathan isn't coming back in the way that lost memories can, it is far more sad.

i agree whole heartedly, and you can totally tell the difference. i.e. when Clark Kent or Lois Lane 'dies', you know they are going to come back. but when they present it in a way that is obvious they aren't coming back (like 'the Body' in Buffy), it has such a huge impact

in fact i think it's almost worse on a sci-fi/fantasy tv show, because so many deaths have been reversed that it feels so horrendously heart wrenching that this one can't be

Tatiana
11-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Definitely the death of Jonathan was the saddest moment for me, losing a parent is terrible, and especially when they are still young and full of life, that episode made me cry like crazy. It is sad that Chloe doesn't know his secret, but honestly I agree with the people that say it might be a good thing, it shows Clark is willing to sacrifice himself to have his friends safe, and he definitely showed how much he loves Chloe and said she was his best friend. I loved Abyss

davidbrenton
11-15-2008, 09:33 PM
Just because she hasn't died doesn't mean she isn't dead! Memories equal identity, identity equals life and humanity, by stripping away Chloe's memories Clark has stripped away her identity and that is one cruel death! If she has any selfpride, she will cast him off as her bestfriend as soon as she regains her memories back, should that ever happen that is! How can he sleep at night, is beyond me?

This is true. Memory = identity. The Chloe Clark knew and loved has died, in essence. Her confidence, security, self-knowledge. She even said "I wouldn't trade knowing about you for anything in the world." Clark did indeed take her growth from her and replaced Chloe with a happy, innocent, niave version. I do believe it's fair to say he killed Chloe.

I don't hold him as accountable as most people do. I think it was a mistake, he'll learn and become better for it.

Kalista
11-15-2008, 09:33 PM
I have to say the death of Ryan, the death of Jonathan Kent, and Chloe's memory wipe--in that order.

LovelyLoisLane
11-15-2008, 09:34 PM
I forgot all about Ryan. Now I feel bad, thanks alot. :p

Kalista
11-15-2008, 09:35 PM
I forgot all about Ryan. Now I feel bad, thanks alot. :p

I can't watch that episode because it's just too sad. He had a miserable life and died at a young age. I'm still mad that the writers had him die.

LovelyLoisLane
11-15-2008, 09:51 PM
Yeah his life was pretty messed up.

Malicieux Toutou
11-15-2008, 09:54 PM
I think the saddest moment was the end of Season 2 when Clark ran away. Such emtional turmoil.

Tatiana
11-15-2008, 10:07 PM
Do people think it was terrible of Superman to take away Lois' memories of him as well in the Superman 2 movie? cuz he basically did the same thing Clark did for Chloe. In both situations, the character of Superman felt it was best for the person he loved not to know his secret. I think he did the right thing, and Chloe of course had to say she wouldn't trade knowing for anything, if not she would have been a bad friend.

Jeri1250
11-15-2008, 10:20 PM
While Jonathan's death was sad, and certainly not as dramatic as someone above wanted, I think when Clark came home to find Martha watching the video of Jonathan and young Clark, then freezing on Jonathan's face while Clark and Martha fell into each other's arms sobbing, now that was sad.

LovelyLoisLane
11-15-2008, 10:40 PM
Yes it was very sad, and it was long lasting and there's no doubt that Jonathan is permanently dead.

It is sort of like the Lord of the Rings movies. I'd read the books so I KNEW Gandalf wasn't really dead, but I knew when Boromir got killed that it was the end. I cried and cried and cried. I didn't cry as much when Gandalf fell at the mines of Moria because I knew he'd be back.

So that's why I voted for Jonathan dying. I was incredibly sad when that happened, even though I had a good idea it was going to happen.

Violet-Shadow
11-15-2008, 11:08 PM
Jonathan's death. No episode of Smallville has left me with tears in my eyes...except in that one, when Jonathan died (and I cry at every sad thing). It was the most heartfelt and sad moment in SV history.

Jaderoyale
11-16-2008, 05:54 AM
I do not understand, how Chloe loosing her memory of Clarks secret could be compared to Pa Kents death. I just don't. That episode still makes me cry like a baby after 3 years.

Clarky123
11-16-2008, 06:23 AM
I do not understand, how Chloe loosing her memory of Clarks secret could be compared to Pa Kents death. I just don't. That episode still makes me cry like a baby after 3 years.

*comfort* :)


ye i agree, even if shelby dies i think that would be 10 times sad then chloe loosing her memorie :P:D

Lonnie
11-16-2008, 06:45 AM
Yes, Chloe's memory loss is a little sad, I must agree. But all of a sudden you lost all hope for their relationship? I'm a little baffled I must say. Chloe may not know Clark's secret anymore, but she's still his bestfriend. She still has memories of them together throughout the years, just not any with him using his powers. In the future, Clark can tell Chloe when he's ready instead of her finding out on her own like before. Isn't that much better? I think so.
IMO, her knowing the secret is what made their friendship as strong as it was, it's what made them BFF's. All they went through together, it's all gone now.

And I won't accept that... I can't. :(

abbaspice1
11-16-2008, 06:54 AM
Okay, what's worst: a parent dying/losing a parent or a best friend losing his/her memories?

NO CONTEST! J K is he saddest thing to happen on Smallville. Followed by MArtha leaving.

I can't believe how some would discount a loss of a parent.

Clarky123
11-16-2008, 08:10 AM
feels to me everything that was important about Chloe was her knowing his secret, i cant say that is a good thing.

Tatiana
11-16-2008, 09:03 AM
IMO, her knowing the secret is what made their friendship as strong as it was, it's what made them BFF's. All they went through together, it's all gone now.

And I won't accept that... I can't. :(


I don't think that's neccesarily true, Chloe always loved Clark and protected him. Even when she didn't know about his secret she protected him from Lionel, put her life on the line, remember season 3? I think that won't change, no matter she knows the secret or not. He definitely is closer to her and appreciates her even more now, I think he has definitely given her the importance and love many people always expected from him. Just because it is not a romantic love, doesn't mean he doesn't love her dearly. If anyone thinks she will change around him now that she doesn't know, well I think you are not giving enough credit to the character of Chloe and her loving spirit. It is no mistake why she had healing powers, she has a big heart.

davidbrenton
11-16-2008, 10:16 AM
I can't watch that episode because it's just too sad. He had a miserable life and died at a young age. I'm still mad that the writers had him die.

I liked that story. It was impactful. I'm glad they made that decision, because it was realistic and less "fairy tale" fluff.

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Do people think it was terrible of Superman to take away Lois' memories of him as well in the Superman 2 movie? cuz he basically did the same thing Clark did for Chloe. In both situations, the character of Superman felt it was best for the person he loved not to know his secret. I think he did the right thing, and Chloe of course had to say she wouldn't trade knowing for anything, if not she would have been a bad friend.

I think she meant it. Chloe really gets off on helping clark and knowing his secret. She was upset when Lana knew, etc.

lrog127
11-16-2008, 12:05 PM
I cried during the Chlark scene this epiosde and I'm not even a chlarker, But I also cried during the scene with Chloe and her mom, in season 6 progeny, when Her mom was loosing her sanity. Maybe it's because Chloe was crying and I can't keep back the tears if I see someone else cry..:)I'm such a sap!

Diamondz241
11-16-2008, 12:05 PM
I voted for the death of jonathan kent
but what i also found sad was at the end of shattered when lionel had to put lex into the mental assylum. That was great acting by both JG and MR.

kkjdt
11-16-2008, 12:32 PM
Jonathon's Death was the sadest moment ... but I sure didn't like Chloe losing her memory....Not sure how I feel about where they are going with this .. I emjoyed her knowing the secret

Lonnie
11-16-2008, 01:16 PM
I don't think that's neccesarily true, Chloe always loved Clark and protected him. Even when she didn't know about his secret she protected him from Lionel, put her life on the line, remember season 3? I think that won't change, no matter she knows the secret or not. He definitely is closer to her and appreciates her even more now, I think he has definitely given her the importance and love many people always expected from him. Just because it is not a romantic love, doesn't mean he doesn't love her dearly. If anyone thinks she will change around him now that she doesn't know, well I think you are not giving enough credit to the character of Chloe and her loving spirit. It is no mistake why she had healing powers, she has a big heart.
True she was always a great friend to him, especially in episodes like Exile, but I don't know, I just don't think she was as big a part of his life as she is now. She never understood why he was doing the things he did, and their relationship was taking to a whole new level after she learned the secret. Chloe has grown immensely as a person aswell ever since she found out. They are a team now. And it's not just Chloe, I mean Clark had someone to talk too, too about all the things he went through, someone to support him, with his dad's death and not being able to tell Lana and everything Kryptonian... things he couldnt share with anyone else. And now he's all alone again. (His friendship with Oliver is no where near anything like that.) Yeah they will still love each other, and still be best friends, I don't doubt that, I just can't imagine it ever being how it was ... but I hope you are right. I really do.

For the record I'm still in denial and hoping Lana will accidently tell her or something ... :P

THE"Lurker"
11-16-2008, 02:28 PM
Uh, yeah. I don't think so. It was kind of touching, but it just doesn't resonate with me. Christ, it's not like someone died. Chloe forgot something... and?

I'd have to say the final moment in Vengeance, paired with the JK's death in Reckoning.

Ditto:cool: And it isnt like she forgot clark altogether either just one slice of his life. They were friends in the beginning without her knowing. So really dont think its as sad a JK's passing:cool:

pizzahead2490
11-16-2008, 02:56 PM
I do not understand, how Chloe loosing her memory of Clarks secret could be compared to Pa Kents death. I just don't. That episode still makes me cry like a baby after 3 years.

i know right. its sooo beyond me:eek: pa kent was soooo sad and then the ryan eppy whhch was really sad.

geminis
11-16-2008, 02:59 PM
Some people may call Chloe's forgetting Clark's secret a travesty and sure it's a tragedy but nothing will ever be more sad than the death of a parent, especially when they are still pretty young, as Jonathan Kent was. And to top it off, Clark feels personal guilt and responsible for his premature demise. His decision to ask Jor-El to take Chloe's memories is no doubt a source of guilt for him, but ultimately he feels he was doing it for the right reasons, to protect her.

Having suffered the loss of a parent way too soon, nothing will ever be sadder for Clark imho than the loss of his father.

Just Another Guy
11-16-2008, 03:20 PM
It's a different kind of sad. Jonathan's death was the tragic pinnacle of "Smallville," but it doesn't have the same disappointing bitterness that Chloe's memory loss could. Hopefully, it won't.

Even after his death, we were able to see Jonathan one last time. Chloe can never be herself again, if things go on this way. That's pretty sad if you ask me.

To say that Chloe is more than just a keeper of Clark's secret is irrelevant. Of course she is, but she's lost half of the life-changing events that shaped her. She'll never really be the same Chloe now, whether we want her to be or not.

rogueslayer1985
11-16-2008, 03:24 PM
i agree. it was so sad i was almost crying...:(:(:(
i want her to know it again until the end of the season

i have to say chloe loosing her memory, it was such a big loss. Especially since she has loved him for a very long time and for her never to know how close they were and how much he grew to trust her just makes me sad

redkryptoniteisthebest
11-16-2008, 03:32 PM
The death of Jonathan. Nothing in Smallville history will ever be as sad as this moment.

amelietw
11-16-2008, 04:51 PM
The death of Jonathan. Nothing in Smallville history will ever be as sad as this moment.

Voted the same. The saddest thing that happened on the show... :(

SVrnFAN
11-16-2008, 07:04 PM
I chose Pa Kent dying. Chloe's memories will come back so I don't see it as the saddest moment in Smallville history. It is one of the most memorable moments though.

Vindellavon
11-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Death of Jonathan and Chloe's mindwipe.

amalie
11-17-2008, 12:20 AM
I seem to be in the minority in that I didn't consider Chloe's memory wipe sad in the least, to me it was always an inevitability.

As for saddest it has to be hands down Pa Kent's death. I wasn't a particularly big JK fan, he annoyed me more often than not, but his death was incredibly moving. The song choice with I Grieve and the imagery of the funeral was beautiful followed by the impact it had on CK and Martha :( Still makes me a little sad to think of it.

JEWCY
11-17-2008, 12:24 AM
I don't think it was one of the saddest moments. While very symbolic and sad in it's own right, I do believe when Jonathan Kent died and when Lana went off with Lex instead of Clark on Promise were much sadder (and intended to be sadder as well)

thehenry89
11-17-2008, 11:12 AM
Johnathan Kent's death def the saddest moment in SV history. This memory loss thing doesn't even compare. In fact every single option above is more sad then this. (even lana getting hit by the bus)

Serynarpc
11-17-2008, 01:57 PM
Chloe Sullivan losing her memories of Clark's secret.

There were a lot of sad moments- the baby boy dying after his age progression, Johnathan Kent's death, even Lionel's- but they all followed a natural progression. the baby was destined to die (sadly) and Lionel and Johnathan made choices that led to their situations.

Chloe, however- did NOT make the choice to become Braniac and did NOT make the choice to forget about Clark. She did choose to hide her memory loss from Clark to prevent something like this from happening. This tells me that for Chloe to be betrayed by someone who loves her- and for her own good- while she would protest its loss is horribly sad. Its tragic, the scale on which Clark will miss her every day and Chloe won't even have the privilege of missing their relationship.

In all actuality, Chloe was going to scale back from Clark-age after marriage anyway- it should have been her choice to choose when to be there for Jimmy and when to be there for Clark. It shouldn't have been decided for her.

Nimkong
11-17-2008, 02:13 PM
Alicia def.
Chloe' is the best, but the show really made me think that he was totally in love with Alicia! I did not see her death coming and was totally sad for Clark
Ryan 2nd
Assylum 3rd-Lex going out of his mind, it makes me sad just thinking about it!

Eurynome
11-17-2008, 02:15 PM
I think there was a similar thread awhile back about this same topic. Before "Abyss" aired, I thought that Jonathan's funeral was the saddest moment in Smallville. But by the end of "Abyss" when Clark was offerring to run to Metropolis for Chloe (because it would take him like 2 seconds round-trip) and Chloe shot him down telling him he drove like an old lady, I was ready to cry. The deterioration of Clark and Chloe's friendship was absolutely heartbreaking (nothing to do with Chlark - I just loved that they were truly BFF's).

gem65
11-17-2008, 02:16 PM
I think the saddest moment was when Clarks father died. Although I would have put the episode following "Reckoning" on the list. Clark walks into the living room and sees his mother watching a video of a young Clark and his father. He starts to get teary eyed and then his father says "goodbye". That's when he finally breaks down and his mother consoles him.

svtwamedfan05
11-17-2008, 09:59 PM
Death of Jonathan Kent

KEakaCK
11-18-2008, 04:35 AM
I have to go with the death of JK as being the saddest moment in Smallville's history. Not only did that mean JS leaving the show, but that entire scene of JK about to die as he had his arms around Martha and Clark and taking the moment to look at each of them before passing away was just heart breaking.
Chloe losing her memory of Clark's secret was just touching as Clark was talking to her, but it's just a part of many other touching moments in Smallville. It wasn't anything that made me go, oh wow or shook me in any way.

Fallen One
11-18-2008, 05:08 AM
Oh please.

1. Jonathan's death
2. Jonathan's funeral
3. The video of Jonathan and Clark in Vengence
3. The death of Ryan
4. Lillian's murder of baby Julian
5. The final montage of Shattered with Johnny Cash's "Hurt" playing
6. The ending scene of Memoria where Clark recalls his birth mother Lara
7. The final Luthorcorp scene of Memoria where Lionel learns that Lex didn't really kill Julian
8. Clark's reaction at discovering Lana's dead body in Reckoning
9. The death of Clark in Hidden
10. The death of Lionel
11. The death of Alicia
12. Martha weeping over Jonathan's almost lifeless body at the end of Covenant
13. Clark almost dying in Odyssey
14. Little Lex sitting all alone on his birthday with no friends
15. Young Clark stroking the face of young Lex as they are being driven away from the Meteor shower

Chloe not remembering Clark's secret is not even top 15 for me. Not even top 20.

BadaBingBadaBoomsday
11-18-2008, 05:23 AM
^^Good list, some I'm not sure about though. No 14, I laughed instead of cried. What about Lana's video to Clark. Even though I was fed up with Clana at that point, it still should be in top 15. Maybe not, but Chloe's memory wipe was the saddest thing for at least two seasons, I think.

Jeta
11-18-2008, 08:01 AM
Chloe Sullivan losing her memories of Clark's secret.

oberyn
11-18-2008, 08:04 AM
Death of Jonathan Kent

justme_007
11-18-2008, 09:17 AM
I have the feeling that Chloe will get back her memories. So for me the saddest moment is Jonathan Kentīs death

RedKRules
11-18-2008, 10:47 AM
I will never get over Pa Kent death ..... but Chloe losing her memory was close second for me!!

oldblackmagick
11-18-2008, 12:03 PM
To me it felt a little bit like chloe actually did die. there is part of her that is gone and it was a kinda big part. Now her bestest friend (she's only got like 3 friends) is going to be lying to her all the time. Plus the way her memories were ripped from her by brainiac was all very sad and how AM played chloe broke my heart. Johnathan dying was the saddest thing for me until now. his death was fast and it would have been more surprising and upsetting if it would have happened in that season three ep hereafter(where the kid sees how people die) cause i was bawling at the end of that cause i had never seen it coming and i thought he was dead. In short i voted for chloe because tho it wasn't the saddest moment ever it really hit me hard. Clark can't even be her friend now because really he has no idea who she is anymore just the same as she has no idea about him. He knows that she is a good person but her mission...her dreams...and her friend was taken from her. So i ask you...Who is Chloe Sullivan??

SuperFan1969
11-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Yes it was very sad moment in Smallville history. Somehow I think Chloe will regain her memores of Clark through Isis Foundation. I think the whole Chloe being the vessel is true. My reasoning is that Brainiac doesnt need her its Doomsday because he has the ability to be indestructible and I think he takes Chloe's ability someway. Look at the previews of next week we get a glimpse of Doomsday.

Now for the Death of Superman we all know that he dies in the comics by Doomsday but we all know that he comes back to life. So for us its sad but rest assured Sups stays with us for eternity!!

I thought this episode really rocks the house but I so love Chloe I know she will be back!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

susangail
11-18-2008, 10:56 PM
Chloe's losing her memories of Clark's secret was terrible; I'm still really bothered by it. Jonathan's death was a close second, because his being dead was something I grew up with in Silver Age comics.

Fallen One
11-19-2008, 06:32 AM
^^Good list, some I'm not sure about though. No 14, I laughed instead of cried. What about Lana's video to Clark. Even though I was fed up with Clana at that point, it still should be in top 15. Maybe not, but Chloe's memory wipe was the saddest thing for at least two seasons, I think.

The Clana goodbye video scene pissed me off instead of making me sad, but I guess it should be up there somewhere. Also a scene I would place ahead of the Abyss moment is the sight of little Lana crying over her parents getting flattened by that meteor, but thats only sad to me because its the event that started everything for her. My bigger point was that there were so many truly sad moments on the show that Chloe not remembering Clark's secret isn't even top 15.

However if there was a thread for "top ten scenes that make me smile" It would definately make top 10.

REebee52
11-19-2008, 04:17 PM
The saddest moment is clearly Jonathan Kents death, but the specific part of that death, for me, was the end of Vengeance when it showed the video of little Clark and Jonathan. Jonathan says he's driving Clark to the 'back nine, because it's all going to be his some day,' when we learned a few episodes back that he had to see the back 9 to pay off Lionel (one of the rare examples of great continuity on the show). Then he waves to the camera and says 'bye bye.' And in all the history of Smallville, Tom Welling has never cried like he did there. He is usually awful, just plain terrible at crying, but he nailed it here.

KEGZilla
11-20-2008, 12:07 AM
Easily the death of Jonathan, after the emotional moment of Clark losing Lana, crying in his Dad's arms only to reverse it and lose his Dad....that was tough. I admit that his death brought a tear to my eye.

Kal-El 2005
11-21-2008, 11:14 PM
I've just realised I've never seen Vengeance :\
It has to be when Jonathan died.. the hype around that episode was probably the best for the series as far as I can remember.
But it is a sad moment; the funeral, the snowing, Lex standing there in the background for the funeral and the look on Chloe's face as she leaves... but most of all Peter Gabriel - I grieve..
Great moment in Smallville history.

hknight
11-22-2008, 02:19 PM
Jonathon dead was the sadest then it is a tie between Chloe losing her memory of Clark's powers and Martha leaving smallville.

alejandrita439
11-22-2008, 05:15 PM
with this episode i was so sad :(
the clark and chloe relationship is so cute :)
i loved this episode, but i almost cried

TShirt60
11-30-2008, 09:21 PM
I have to say that it is the final descent of Lex that is the saddest to me. In the beginning of the show, Lex did not want to become this bad guy and wanted to do all he could to fight against the evil wills of his father. However, it came to the point that Lex did evil things inherantly and no one ever trusted him after that. In season 7 when lex was more "evil", he was just a product of everyone having no faith in him and seeing him as nothing more than a self serving monster. Finally it came to the point where nobody liked him and evil became such a part of him that he snapped and destroyed all voices of reason in him. In my opinion, that is truly a tradgedy.

kal-el_Girl
12-01-2008, 04:53 PM
jk's death was the saddest by far! Is also a masterpiece and the final scene is touching and beautiful. Lex's descent was painful to watch but you come to expect it after so many seasons.

SacredK
12-07-2008, 02:55 AM
That was a tuff poll. I chose Jonathan's death. Although I got pretty teary when Alicia died. Final 'descent' of Lex Luthor Not sure I understand that one. Anyhow, what about the Christmas episode, after Lex said that the key to happiness is money and power. It saddens me to hear folks think that such can bring them happiness. Another sad moment for me was when Brainiac had infected Lana and Clark was there with her in the medical room crying. Don't remember the names of any of these episodes but I hoped I described the scenes well enough so you guys know what I'm rambling on. :)

marcella
12-08-2008, 07:18 AM
JK's death.And Lana's death in Reckoning was one of the happiest moments of the show:lol:

Flying Skyward
12-08-2008, 08:07 PM
Yeah, I know, Jonathan Kent dying SUCKED and was soooooo sad. But I still voted for Chloe losing any memory of Clark being Super-Clark.

Maybe I'm more mad than sad, but either way.. that decision SUCKED! You listening Mister Kent?? lol :)

lostmyway
12-09-2008, 04:12 AM
As much as I hated the fact that Chloe had her memory wiped, I don't think it's the saddest moment. But it's up there. I think Jonathan's death was the saddest moment.

Jedimaster_TTBaby
12-10-2008, 01:58 PM
Johnathan Kent Dying!

F..l
12-11-2008, 08:36 AM
three deaths for me ...
#1 dead of jonathan (the saddest)
#2 death of alicia
#3 death of lionel

when alicia and jonathan died I almost cryed :( .....

Stu.Kent
12-11-2008, 08:50 AM
Alicia, Tom did a great job portraying the pain of that scene

hansioux
12-11-2008, 09:25 AM
Death of Jonathan Kent
Death of Alicia Baker
Death of Lana Lang (in Reckoning)

these three are hard to tell which is sadder.... Smallville has way too many great sad moments. if only there are enough great happy moments. It seems like the writers always put more thoughts into the sad moments.

If i was Clark, living through the above 3 events would turn me into ZOD.

woolanayu
12-12-2008, 04:47 AM
It's Chloe Sullivan losing her memories, for me!
I was happy when Jonathan Kent died, he was always so annoying![/quote]


wow...when the father of chloe's BFF is dead and u were happy... :rolleyes:weird

kal-el_Girl
12-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Do people think it was terrible of Superman to take away Lois' memories of him as well in the Superman 2 movie? cuz he basically did the same thing Clark did for Chloe. In both situations, the character of Superman felt it was best for the person he loved not to know his secret. I think he did the right thing, and Chloe of course had to say she wouldn't trade knowing for anything, if not she would have been a bad friend.
I think it was pretty sad what superman did to lois in the movie, it was heart wrenching to see that the whole love scene was erased from lois' memory very much like chloe and I'm totally against one or the other.
the only mind wiping that should've stayed put is in Reckoning, with lana dead we could've had an amazing 7th season!!
don't you guys think? :p

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It's Chloe Sullivan losing her memories, for me!
I was happy when Jonathan Kent died, he was always so annoying!

what?? blasphemy!!! Jonathan was the best father figure clark could've had, and JS was the best Johnathan Kent ever!!

ChaosSV
01-17-2009, 11:44 PM
death of Jonathan n Chloe losing her memory...

cannot choose
actually death of Jonathan is the saddest i think because he;s just so important for Clark but the Chloe losing her memory is sad too..

Lex Dance
03-04-2009, 01:28 PM
It was definitely very sad to see Chloe's memory erased, but for me the saddest moment will always be Lex's realisation that he didn't kill his brother (in Memoria). The premise is so tragic - that a father never loved his son because he always felt that one son was responsible for the death of another. It just gets me every time - even more so now that I have young children of my own.
I also think the final scene of Vengeance is beautiful.

kal-el_Girl
09-01-2009, 09:19 PM
def. Pa' Kent was excrutiating =(
still miss you Pa..

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It was definitely very sad to see Chloe's memory erased, but for me the saddest moment will always be Lex's realisation that he didn't kill his brother (in Memoria). The premise is so tragic - that a father never loved his son because he always felt that one son was responsible for the death of another. It just gets me every time - even more so now that I have young children of my own.
I also think the final scene of Vengeance is beautiful.

that's very very sad as well, when Lex said "you've actually loved me.." poor Lexy

kal-el_Girl
09-13-2009, 03:42 PM
Hands down Pa' Kents death, very sad =(

Nibiru
09-13-2009, 04:15 PM
Ryan the mindreader's death from brain tumor in season 2 is a real tearjerker too.

Tinyeppy
09-13-2009, 04:41 PM
Sorry but out of the 8yrs there's has yet been nothing more heartaching & tearful then the last moment's of S5 "Reckoning" with the death of Jonathan Kent. :(


There was not one fan out there that didn't feel the pain & the sorrow about this character's death.


No parties or happiness on anybody's part. He was a good father & the perfect choice.


RIP: January 26, 2006 Jonathan Kent

Night_Hawk90
09-13-2009, 04:46 PM
^
that was heartwrenching it was a pure sell out by the writers/producers of this show i tasted bile after seeing that. The saddest moment has to come from memoria the end scene with clark/martha or lex/lionel acting at it's best on this show .

Cage
09-13-2009, 06:53 PM
No Place for other -

for me the saddest moment was when Kara changed from her red bikini to street cloths that covered her = LOL

little Lara
09-13-2009, 07:01 PM
Right with you, Night Hawk90.
Of the choices above, I went with Jonathan Kent's death in "Reckoning", but the saddest moment for me in Smallville is the ending to "Memoria". At least Clark had around 15 years of all different kinds of memories with his absolutely wonderful father, but to have only a single bittersweet memory of his birth mother (or even his home planet, really), one which he had forgotten for so long--I cry like a baby every time I watch that.
But then, of course, he gets to see more of Lara and Krypton in season 7, something which I can't really decide if I like or not.

BigT
09-14-2009, 04:43 PM
Oh, I am soooooooo relived that nobody said that the final scene in Requiem was the saddest moment in Smallville history. If someone does then I think I'm gonna hurl!


To me it was the death of Alicia. I really liked her and she was killed so prematurely. This show made me feel that her and Clark really loved each other and were made for each other even though Lois is the one who Clark eventually marries. But Clark & Alicia were married too! LOL. If Alicia had never died then she would have been Clark Kent's true love. Hands down! I seriously think Alicia should be remembered as the "the lost love of Clark Kent."

2nd was Jonathan's death followed by Lionel's.

The funeral scene with Lex and Clark was pretty powerful and Clark saying thank you to Lionel. :(

Iluvgreen
09-14-2009, 04:52 PM
The saddest part, and one of the turners of the show, was when Lex killed his father. It showed just how evil he had become.

redkryptoniteisthebest
02-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Oh, I am soooooooo relived that nobody said that the final scene in Requiem was the saddest moment in Smallville history. If someone does then I think I'm gonna hurl!

It wasn't the saddest, but I'm not going to lie, a tear (or two) came out of my eyes.

Like before, I still think that Jonathan's death was the saddest scene in SV history. I've seen some incredibly sad scenes (i.e. the end-scene in Promise, with Clark and Lana), but this scene grabbed me like never before in a TV show.

JennyFaye
02-27-2010, 11:41 AM
Definitely Jonathan Kent's death in Reckoning.....Or actually the pre-funeral scene with Martha and Clark. That tore my heart out. The tears actually flowed.

And the next episode, Vengeance. When Clark walked in on Martha watching the home video and he finally stopped suppressing his feelings of loss....Tears again.

Darn, this show could use Martha's loving presence.

But the deaths of Ryan and Alicia were also quite sad. Both were young and victims of their meteor powers....And Ryan was utterly innocent.

Lionel's death was sad because his passing was so unheralded. The man was a captain of industry and major earth shaker----a villainous one for sure, but definitely a man and leader at the center of events. Plus the show left us not knowing if he was a somewhat changed man or still the master manipulator. (Though he will always be the MB!) :)

Chloe's memory loss grieved me at the time. But given her character's story arc in S9---misusing both her position as a trusted friend and the resources of Watchtower (and doing so with such self-righteous arrogance)---I almost wish she had stayed in the dark. Almost....Clark stripped her of her memories, and by extension her identity and self-esteem, against her wishes. THAT is unacceptable no matter how selfless his intentions were.

However, the other saddest moment for me was Davis Bloome's self-sacrificing death in Eternal and his subsequent return from the dead. An honorable, decent, sensitive man who rose above his upbringing, Davis was crushed by circumstances beyond his control or comprehension. When investigative work, self-will, medication and spiritual guidance failed, he turned to vigilantiism to quell the beast and limit the extent of its damage to others while this macabre choice chipped away at his soul. After the kryptonite cage death failed to deliver him from his programmed fate, he turned to Chloe as his last resort. When he stated he was immortal, he did so with despair, defeat, sadness and matter-of-factness. There was no triumph in the realization. And his final humiliating concession was being compelled to ask Chloe, the woman he loved and wished to shield, to become a virtual prisoner of his condition.

lmdv07
02-28-2010, 01:29 PM
definitely agree that the death of Clarks dad was sad, but I also think the death of Evan from season 4 was sad (although I know a fair amount of people didn't like this episode). clark and lana tried so hard to help him, and especially clark had a special bond with him even though it was just a few days...
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honsou
08-19-2010, 12:41 AM
I think Chloe's loss of memory is more sad than people think about.... think about the MAGNITUDE for a moment! For 4 years practically every memory she has had with Clark, has involved his secret! Helping him COUNTLESS times and growing closer as friends is all GONE now! Do you have any idea how many memories have been wiped, and how Clark and Chloe are actually not that close anymore? What about Chloe's interest in finding out what Clark is hiding, is that gone too? I got so depressed when they ripped the best friendship to shreds.
On top of that, Lois is getting more and more annoying and Clark seems to put up with it.

biggumt
12-22-2010, 03:39 AM
lol at the 75 people who choose chloe losing her memories as the saddest moment of smallville over the death of jk and others....just utterly ridiculous and sad.

ck123
01-08-2011, 06:27 AM
Death of Jonathan
Lana Lang leaving in "Requiem"

Ck.

EonDarkStar
10-05-2011, 04:38 PM
Lex remembering his mother smothering Julianne.
Lex confronting his father Lionel about his mother killing Julianne.
Lex remembering his birthday party where nobody showed before Julianne being born.
The evil side of Lex goading his father after canceling the offer of his good side to host the charity event Lionel was arranging.

I think that these were also sad moments, though I don't believe in birthday parties.

toflyup
10-05-2011, 04:47 PM
Death of Johnathan Kent was the saddest. I wish Chloe would have never remember Clark secret maybe Clark would have had some brains...:)