All things Brainiac (several merged threads)

[migo]

Are we at 2 or 3 times now? This is starting to feel like BSG - All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

[MethosII]

Wasn't it established in an earlier episode that Dax-Ur created brainiac and thus is why Brainiac did a brain drain on him to fix himself? Then in Abyss it was repeatedly said that Jor-El created Brainiac. Whats the deal here? Does anyone have an explanation?

[Vergon6]

I think Dax-Ur was supposed to be one of the main designers of the original Brainiac, but Jor-El was the architect of the project? I don't know, it's late, but it would really serve us well to get a clear answer from the writers on this one.

[Luiz Fernando]

It´s simple.

Jor El ordened the creation of Brainiac, but the experience fails. In Smallville, The cientist that developed Brainiac was Dax Ur, but he did it because Jor El gave his permision for this development. Lara also says that Brainiac was created under Jor El's orders in 8.08 Blue, and on HQs also says it.

[MethosII]

Ok. But that does not mean he created Brainiac. Only ordered it. Brainiac's creation is still Dax-Ur's doing.

[psyko69]

Here's Dax-Ur's quote:

"My research LED TO the creation of Brainiac."

Jor-El simply built upon previous knowledge, as is common in science.

Jor-El built it, but Dax-Ur's research facilitated it's creation.

[gem65]

The first time it happened was when Zod posessed Lex at the end of season 5. The scene last night was the 2nd time - which totally suprised me. I couldn't believe it.

[Bizarrolover]

I remember it happened once, the other time it was Zor-El who took over the fortress. But I'm not sure.

[gem65]

I remember it happened once, the other time it was Zor-El who took over the fortress. But I'm not sure.

Now I'm not sure. If it did happen, it would have occured in the episode "Blue". I'll have to watch it again.

[justme_007]

I remember it happened once, the other time it was Zor-El who took over the fortress. But I'm not sure.

But Zor-EL is not Brainiac??? Was brainiac in this episode? Just, can´t remeber:\

[biggkoz]

Better question how many times has braniac died. I think the show is going braniac crazy like lucas did with the ewoks and star trek did with the borg. Time to move onto other threats.

[optinox]

Brainiac needs the FOS in order to complete his plan. His orignal plan was to realease Zod from the phantom zone, and use Lex as the vessel. I believe he needs a kryptonina FOS to do that, either clark's or kara's. I also think the crystal is useless to him, the fortress needs to be built before he can infect it. The problem with brainiac is he always has backup plans, they did not explain how DD got on clark's ship, something i can't see Jor-El missing, though this could've been planned by brainiac just prior before krypton exploding, something Jor-El didn't know of at the time...or it couldv'e happened when clark went back in time to save kara, hope they clear this up.

I think the FOS is key for releasing Zod and possibly infecting DD, by infecting the FOS it may attract DD...like a beacon, which is maybe why at the end it looked like a DD FOS instead of clarks. This may be used to infect DD that eventually releases his true formation or control over Davis. Another thing, Jor-El didn't seem too worried about DD being on earth, considering he said DD was virtually unstoppable, Jor-El should of said, "this threat should not be taken lightly Kal-El, DD fully unleashed would be a greater challenge that your not ready for my son"

[Clarky123]

So Clark is gonna get his as handed to him? :P

[MethosII]

In that case i wonder how Jor-Els creation became Zod's servant.

[faz]

^I assume it's along the same lines as the STAS Brainiac, who was created to help Krypton by possessing all of its knowledge and analyzing it to aid the planet's progression. When Brainiac learned the planet was going to explode, he didn't tell anyone and decided to save himself. I think it boils down to one thing - Jor-El made a mistake and Brainiac had more free will than they probably intended him to have. Kind of like Skynet.

[Bizarrolover]

I think Dax-ur said that he developed the technology that finally produced Brainiac, that's why he left Krypton, because his technology was being used for evil, not for good. Also, Brainiac, being a computer, is all about programming. Maybe Jor-El created a good Brainiac but Zod reprogrammed him for his own benefit.

[faz]

That's definitely possible as well, although I'm still sticking to my free will theory :p

[smallvillefreak24]

ok don't get me wrong I love brainiac. He was a fantastic villain and marsters was awsome- funny too. BUT we have killed him more times than i can count and i am extremely sick of him, can he just be GONE everytime i think we have moved on HE COMES BACK my gosh can he just stay gone

[redeem147]

No. :)

I was squeeing when I heard James. And since Kara mentioned looking for Kandor, he could show up in that storyline too.

[psyko69]

Zod and Jor-El were originally on the same side. Its not hard to see how Zod could have corrupted Brainiac.

And once again, Dax-Ur's research LED TO Brainiac's creation, that doesn't mean he was the creator.

It would be like saying the apple should be given sole credit for Newton's Law of Gravity. It helped, and is credited, but it was Newton who penned the Law.

[TheManOfTommrow2]

the all brianic plot is absoultly stupid !!!
just when you thought chole was getting cooler
when she get super smart
she has to lose all her memory
it is not only brianic who is affecting her
but also doomsday ???
i mean what the hell is the connection
between brianic and doomsday

do you really think brianic came one day to chole just
to plug in some secret messages in her head about doomsday ???

if that is so why didnt he do the same for lana it was an
accedent he tried to kill chole but becouse of her power she
just absorbe his brain power

are the writers so despret for a story line that they make stupid connections

what about brianic blood taking over jor el ???
i mean we have seen jor el power erasing brianic with great ease
and here all of a sudden brianic can take over the fortress ???

the first time brianic try to destroy the fortress he need clarks help
and now all of a sudden he so powerfull he can just take over ???

[Timester]

One answer for everything:

Zod.

[Iluvgreen]

Chloe had a power, and sucked out braniac's power's when he tried to do that wierd thing he did to lana to Chloe. That's why she was super smart. I think its an interesting plotline...

[Feldmm1]

Um, it is spelled Brainiac. I was wondering how he could infect the fortress too, but I think that when he restored and upgraded himself in season 7, he may have gotton more than just the power of flight. I found the plots more exciting than stupid. Brainiac and Doomsday are both evil and associated with Zod. Maybe Brainiac thinks that Doomsday will fulfill the mission Zod failed to do, so he might as well help him. Putting symbols in Chloe's head was not Brainiac's only mission. Perhaps he hoped to use it as a beacon or something to Doomsday when he got the chance, but Brainiac calculated that he had a win-win situation from the beginning. Either he possesses Chloe and makes contact with Doomsday, or he takes over the fortress. I think he is looking at least a couple of scenarios ahead. As for why Lana does not have the same connection. . . well, as you said, it was a mistake and Chloe and Brainiac's encounter was far from ordinary. She did not absorb his brain power. She absorbed some of him.

Personally, I rather like the plot that the writers are developing.

[MethosII]

I like the free will idea. But seeing as Zod was once a trusted member of the Kryptonian Council that does make it more possible how Zod may have reprogrammed Brainiac for his own purpose.

[mrw66855]

the all brianic plot is absoultly stupid !!!
just when you thought chole was getting cooler
when she get super smart
she has to lose all her memory
it is not only brianic who is affecting her
but also doomsday ???
i mean what the hell is the connection
between brianic and doomsday

do you really think brianic came one day to chole just
to plug in some secret messages in her head about doomsday ???

if that is so why didnt he do the same for lana it was an
accedent he tried to kill chole but becouse of her power she
just absorbe his brain power

are the writers so despret for a story line that they make stupid connections

what about brianic blood taking over jor el ???
i mean we have seen jor el power erasing brianic with great ease
and here all of a sudden brianic can take over the fortress ???

the first time brianic try to destroy the fortress he need clarks help
and now all of a sudden he so powerfull he can just take over ???
Have you forgotten that brainiac is one of zod servants and in smallville universe doomsday iszod son. That is the connection between brainiac and doomsday. Have you also forgotten that brainiac is a computer, and so is jor-el so it is pretty probable that brainiac could take over jor-el , because brainiac is a more advanced computer (he can make himself look human, which not evenjor-el can do that). In my opinion the supersmart ability that Chloe got brainiac just made her more ignorant and know it all (I like her when she was normal and had her power) I also think the writers are making a fantastic story and plots.

[wildcherry]

I know this is probably a stupid question but how was brainiac controlling chloe when i thought clark killed him?



-Kayleigh

[Bizarrolover]

Branic is programmed with a specific funtion of destroying humanity and liberate Zod. So far he had used Jonathan, Martha, Lionel and Lana to destroy Clark. But nothing worked. He went back in time to destroy baby Kal-el and/or put Doomsday genetic matter in the spaceship. But that didn't work either, so he came back impersonating Kara to get to Clark and ready the doomsday scenario. I don't think he ever imagined that Chloe could affect him so badly when he attacked her in Arctic, but her meteor infection protected her ended destroying Brainiac. Still, a small part of him remained inside of Chloe to regenerate, and like Brainiac told Bizarro in Persona, no matter what happens to his body, his intellect remains formidable. So he basically regenerated inside Chloe's body, gave her this super intelligence that is not meant for humans, literally frying her brain while searching for the seed he planted in Kal-el's ship: Doomsday. It's not a coincidence that Doomy is attracted to Chloe (to the point of irrationality, in Abyss he looked like a crazy stalker, the guy met her a few weeks ago). So, my guess is that what happened in Abyss is part of Brainiac masterful plan to take over Earth, no matter what. Brainiac can't activate the fortress, only Clark can. So he played with Clark's desperation to save his friend and forces him to reactivate the fortress. If anything, Clark is predictible, he did exactly what Brainiac expected him to do. While Jor El cured Chloe, Brainiac managed to slip into the controls and take control over the Clarks' fortress. No he only hast to release Doomsday.

No, I don't agree with you. If this theory is correct, the Brainiac plot isn't stupid. It's brilliant.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yes, how stupied this brianic plot is.

:rolleyes:

[doomsdaytitan]

its still not 100% clear wether brainiac was "controlling" chloe fully or not but he did infect her. Clark killed him while he was weakened after he attacked chloe and infected her and put her in a catatonic state.

[MBrittan]

This is hard to answer without including spoilers...
-M-

[skully]

I know this is probably a stupid question but how was brainiac controlling chloe when i thought clark killed him?



-KayleighI don't think this answer is spoilery (but I'll use Spoiler alert just in case). :)

Brainiac is basically indestructable. Clark has defeated him several times (Solitude, Vessel, Arctic) and yet he has returned to fight another day each time.

It is clear from the opening 8 episodes (prior to Abyss) that Brainiac has infected Chloe's brain/mind in some way, giving her super-computing power and the ability to interact with Clark's crystal (as seen in Bloodline).

It would seem that since he attacked her in the Talon apartment with his mind tentacles ("What the hell are you?") he didn't initially take over her mind (as he did with Lana in Veritas) but has been slowly taking control ever since.

[j-kent]

all i know is that this show wonderfully adheres the comic mythology- BRAINIAC is relentess...he's always coming back for more!!! It's great

[migo]

Better question how many times has braniac died. I think the show is going braniac crazy like lucas did with the ewoks and star trek did with the borg. Time to move onto other threats.

At least BrainIAC always comes up with these awesome plans. The Borg got neutered.