What will Oliver think when he discovers Chloe's memory loss?

[Iolanthe]

When Oliver discovers that Chloe has no memory of Clark's powers (and what else will be missing, pray tell? Has she lost memory of the events in "Justice"? Does she remember that Oliver is the Green Arrow?), what will he think?

He's got to be a little worried that Clark has these awesome memory-wiping powers. But, if someone you knew could do that, wouldn't you be worried that they'd use that power on you?

Clark has confided in Oliver that knowing his secret has put Chloe at risk. It's a short jump from there to making the decision that Oliver shouldn't know, either.

[Charissa70]

Oliver is way different than Chloe. Why would Clark even think about messing with Oliver's memory? Oliver has a secret identity too, that he is hiding from everyone and he has been in the danger field much more than Clark. He can handle it. It is the ones that don't have powers or skills in fighting the bad guys that need the wipe. Like Pete, bring him back, wipe his memory and let him wonder why he ever left Smallville. Besides, Clark needs someone to have a beer with.

[Bre723]

plus what if oliver brings clarks secret up in front of chloe?
what happens then?
do they just ignore it?

[Harrison_Bergeron]

Oliver told Clark that it was irresponsible of him to have let Chloe go so long with the problem, and that he needed to think more about who he puts in danger with his secret. Oliver will be fine with it.

[Iolanthe]

Oliver told Clark that it was irresponsible of him to have let Chloe go so long with the problem, and that he needed to think more about who he puts in danger with his secret. Oliver will be fine with it.

Boy, and wasn't that an obvious setup for the events in "Abyss"? Mention that it's "too dangerous for humans" and right away, next episode, here comes the mindwipe!

[Animation]

Oliver is way different than Chloe. Why would Clark even think about messing with Oliver's memory?

No, I think the point here is that the morality of Clark's decision is one that some people agree with, but some would consider a violation of loyalty and trust, no matter what the reason. Just because Ollie shares an understanding of the Superhero world and the risk aspect, that doesn't mean that he would approve. They could write it either way, but my feeling is that most people would be disgusted with Clark.

I mean, sure, comic book fans might make excuses but I bet if you asked your friends or loved ones if they would respect you if you stole some important memories from them, they'd be upset.

Besides .... doesn't this jeopardize Chloe's relationship with Ollie's team? She knew all the Justice League people. I guess Clark chose to kick her out of the club and didn't ask anyone else.

Lewis

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Oliver told Clark that it was irresponsible of him to have let Chloe go so long with the problem, and that he needed to think more about who he puts in danger with his secret. Oliver will be fine with it.

He wasnt referring to the "problem" of Chloe knowing the secret. He was talking about having her brain infected with Brainiac. That is totally different.

Lewis

[Iolanthe]

Originally posted by Animation:
No, I think the point here is that the morality of Clark's decision is one that some people agree with, but some would consider a violation of loyalty and trust, no matter what the reason. Just because Ollie shares an understanding of the Superhero world and the risk aspect, that doesn't mean that he would approve.

Exactly! It's not who Clark is doing it to. It's that he would do it at all.

The whole thing with Superman is that it's not the powers you have, it's the use you make of the powers. And Superman chooses to use his powers for good. In this episode, Clark's use of his power (actually, the Fortress of Solitude's power) is definitely morally wonky.

[Ray Man]

Well if what ppl have been saying on here is true (that Fine/Brainy is still inside Chloe) then she could still know cuz Fine of course knows.

[Bre723]

what about all the justice league people, will she remember them?
i wonder how that will work out?

[JNottle]

Yeah Oliver kind of put the idea in his head.

And, "YOU TOLD ME IN IDENITY YOU COULDN'T MIND WIPE!!!"

[migo]

Ollie will be fine with it. If Chloe found out about it she'd be hugely pissed. She said her life took on meaning when she found out about Clark.

[ineedkrypton]

y'know how girls talk about everything...

Next week, has anyone thought that Lana may reference Clark's powers in front of Chloe?
Either that, or when Clark fights Doomsday, she'll piece things together. She is a little quicker than Lois is on investigative reporting afterall.

[Clark-Lois]

y'know how girls talk about everything...

Next week, has anyone thought that Lana may reference Clark's powers in front of Chloe?
Either that, or when Clark fights Doomsday, she'll piece things together. She is a little quicker than Lois is on investigative reporting afterall.

Hey i'm offended about the Lois quote. :p just kidding. but yeah i was thinking (hoping) the same thing. As i've stated numerous times. I'm a die-hard CLois fan for life but Chloe was my third favorite character and now, i feel, she has no purpose. i hope she relearns.

[migo]

Clark will probably let Olliver know, who'll probably make effort to let Lana know as well. Offscreenville of course.

[B_M4N]

The next epsode should be interesting to say the least between Lana coming back and still knowing Clark's secret and the huge Doomsday fight in front of everyone it seems like Chloe would have to figure it out again.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i do not know we will have to find out next episdoe.

[Kalista]

In typical Ollie fashion, he will criticize Clark for making that decision for Chloe.

[Bizarrolover]

Ollie's thoughts? 'Now I need a new watchtower'

Now more seriously, I believe Ollie will think Clark did the right thing. He was the one who asked Clark to fix Chloe in the first place. Some things are just not meant for humans.

[skully]

Oliver told Clark that it was irresponsible of him to have let Chloe go so long with the problem, and that he needed to think more about who he puts in danger with his secret. Oliver will be fine with it.Absolutely. He'll give Clark a pat on the back and "well done".

[Kalista]

I doubt it.

[skully]

C'mon people, this is classic Supes, protecting the ones closest to him. Chloe will still be his BFF, but she will no longer have the drama of having to keep his secret, at least in the short term.

[Genevieve]

Ollie's thoughts? 'Now I need a new watchtower'

Now more seriously, I believe Ollie will think Clark did the right thing. He was the one who asked Clark to fix Chloe in the first place. Some things are just not meant for humans.


He asked Clark to do something about the Braniac infection, NOT to remove her memories. I don't think Oliver will pat Clark on the back for this. Chloe is a valuable friend and ally to him as well. They've helped each other in many ways over the course of their friendship. Chloe's mother, Oliver letting her use the jet, using ISIS as a quasi command center, and a place for his Green Arrow stuff. How is that all going to be explained to her if she doesn't remember her affiliation and friendship with Oliver? This mindwipe just creates more problems than is solves, and I think and hope that Clark will realize this and all will be reversed.

[Bizarrolover]

Yes, but Ollie is the man that almost got her killed when Black Cannary chased her to a rooftop, and then, when Clark scolded him for putting Chloe in danger, he threw it back at him saying that she was in danger every day she stood by Clark's side. Clark gave her her previous life back, the life she had before Alicia forced into Clark's secret.

[Billy Jor-El]

y'know how girls talk about everything...

Next week, has anyone thought that Lana may reference Clark's powers in front of Chloe?
Either that, or when Clark fights Doomsday, she'll piece things together. She is a little quicker than Lois is on investigative reporting after all.

Yeah, exactly. There are already too many that know Chloe that also know about Clark that would find something odd about how Chloe talks and perceives of Clark now. The JLA knows about Clark, how do we make a deal with everyone not to say something in front of Watchtower, or is she to become a Stepford wife and be done with it?

And considering the complexity of instances in which Chloe helped/saved/interacted with Clark, knowing full well about his abilities (other than to stand in the middle of the street...), how does she remember those instances? Just a blank for so many days, weeks? Wouldn't that make her worried?

I see Chloe as compromised this way; Clark makes the decision that everything is his fault, so let's get the Mr. Clean of memory wipes out.

I hope Chloe regains all she rightfully knows and makes her own decisions from there.

[Genevieve]

Yes, but Ollie is the man that almost got her killed when Black Cannary chased her to a rooftop, and then, when Clark scolded him for putting Chloe in danger, he threw it back at him saying that she was in danger every day she stood by Clark's side. Clark gave her her previous life back, the life she had before Alicia forced into Clark's secret.


That still doesn't convince me that Oliver will think Clark did the right thing by erasing Chloe's memories. She's an integral part of the story, you can't just erase all of her memories and expect it to work. She was capable enough for him to trust, and work as his Watchtower. They trusted each other. Oliver goes to Chloe for things, and she's gone to him for help as well. Again, too many plot holes here in the story.

[Iluvgreen]

I don't know how he'll react...

[ClarksGal]

The answer to this question lies in a clip in the spoilers section. :)

[Vindellavon]

Hopefully, Oliver can get it rhough the BDA's thick skull that mindrape is never the answer!

[umm]

Oliver told Clark that it was irresponsible of him to have let Chloe go so long with the problem, and that he needed to think more about who he puts in danger with his secret. Oliver will be fine with it.


I don't think he had this kind of radical solution in mind when he told Clark told to deal with it, so he won't be too thrilled with the way Clark handeled it!

[morphs]

I think Oliver will be a bit upset but will understand Clark's reasoning behind it.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I hope Ollie will do what he usually does, and speak MY mind :lol: he tends to tell Clark exactly what i think of him, so i hope that continues

If that it is the case, he won't be saying anything. Just staring at him with a look of shock and disgust.

[Kalista]

I was disappointed by his reaction in the youtube clip and based on his conversation with Clark about Chloe in Bloodline, I think it is OOC.

[cousteau]

Nothing, because he told clark to do something about it.

[Skaterpen357]

Hm. Watching now, he didn't have any reaction at all. Nice.