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Mog-el
11-13-2008, 07:51 PM
So what did everybody think of it.

Clark bringing chloe her favorite book that she left behind at her old house and the kiss afterwards after he did it was so adorable. The only queston I have is, where did he get the book from? :lol:

TWLOVER03
11-13-2008, 07:53 PM
hahah i though it was cute, but unbelieveable since that scene was supposed to take place in their 8th grade year [a year before season 1]

moviefan2k4
11-13-2008, 07:55 PM
hahah i though it was cute, but unbelieveable since that scene was supposed to take place in their 8th grade year [a year before season 1]Exactly; it looked more like they belonged in 5th or 6th grade, not 8th. My question is, why couldn't Tom & Allison do the scene, with some hair and costume changes to reflect an earlier year, and maybe some slight CGI to de-age them just a tad? Probably the budget...:(

TWLOVER03
11-13-2008, 07:56 PM
yeah I was wondering that myself

Aloof
11-13-2008, 07:56 PM
It was adorable! Yeah, they looked really young. :eek:

Smallville6
11-13-2008, 07:57 PM
OMG, that wig as HORRIBLE! :rotfl:
But it was such a cute scene!

LoveHurts38
11-13-2008, 08:05 PM
I was thinking he would be looking for Lana .

LuckyLois
11-13-2008, 08:07 PM
I doubt Tom could play an 8th grader now! Have you people see him lately? He's gorgeously all man!!

unfocused
11-13-2008, 08:09 PM
Haha I loved that scene, it was cute.

I'm glad Chloe doesn't know Clark's secret anymore. Now she has a chance to live her life for herself and not for Clark.

She doesn't have to be in his shadow all of the time anymore (as Pete described it). She can continue to be his best friend, just not his sidekick.

Anyway, that flashback scene was so random. But it was great! I like how young Clark supersped off to the library to get her that book, you can kinda tell he wanted that kiss :lol: And I just loved how they showed us that Clark was a Lana stalker since he was a kid! That was a neat continuity with the telescope.

Mog-el
11-13-2008, 08:11 PM
Agree a very cute scene and clark was so sweet to get the book for her.

jqedward
11-13-2008, 08:13 PM
the scene was adorable.

oqllcksmallville
11-13-2008, 08:15 PM
- it was so friggin' adorable . <3
.. that was the CUTEST scene in smallville history . = )
i loved it . <3
& the book and the kiss ,
TOO CUTE . <3

oqllcksmallville
11-13-2008, 08:18 PM
i want chloe to know clark's secret . ( yn )
it's my favourite part about their friendship .
that they can LITERALLY go to each other for anything .
involving anything , cause they know everything about each other .
& that was pure cuteness . <3

SnowBird
11-13-2008, 08:26 PM
The little girl looked a lot like Chloe. While the boy resembled Clark, he needed to be taller since it was a year before the pilot. The scene was very sweet.

Jade4813
11-13-2008, 08:31 PM
It was sweet. But I do have to say, the former librarian in me couldn't help but think, "That boy is going to have KILLER overdue fines!"

SVsleuth
11-13-2008, 08:36 PM
Hmm.... Shows what I know. I thought Chlark fans would hate it. I wasn't impressed. I prefer my imagined version of that scene to actually seeing it played out with different actors. I would have preferred they leave it alone. I thought the girl did a decent job, but the boy was a far cry from TW & not believable to be Clark.

Cellist
11-13-2008, 08:38 PM
He was way too short to be Clark.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-13-2008, 08:49 PM
They were kind of a turn off for me.

I mean, in Facade they did a flashback of highschool Clark and Lana with TW and KK. They were alright for that scene.

krewsaider
11-13-2008, 08:53 PM
They were way too young because they're supposed to become TW and AM in one year's time. That's impossible. But I'm going to live with it because otherwise I enjoyed this episode more than I thought I would.

Deana
11-13-2008, 08:58 PM
LOL, the way their were acting, compared with the age they were supposed to be, beat out Lana and Lex's kid in Lexmas in the bazaar kid category.

eas
11-13-2008, 09:00 PM
It was a really bizarre scene. I think they miscast young Chloe. The girl just couldn't pull off the moutful of words... she looked like she was reading them... and the WIG. Oh Lord...

I though the boy playing young Clark was fine... but young Chloe ruined it for me.

dunkman
11-13-2008, 09:03 PM
I thought they did a good job. The girl playing Chloe didn't look all that much like her, but she acted like her. It was great because Clark was telling Lana about that back in season 1 before he asked Chloe to the prom--I love continuity like that!

SteveS
11-13-2008, 09:05 PM
It was sweet and the little girl playing Chloe was an excellent choice.

OneShotClois
11-13-2008, 09:07 PM
I thought it was cute..

Jade4813
11-13-2008, 09:09 PM
Hmm.... Shows what I know. I thought Chlark fans would hate it. I wasn't impressed. I prefer my imagined version of that scene to actually seeing it played out with different actors. I would have preferred they leave it alone. I thought the girl did a decent job, but the boy was a far cry from TW & not believable to be Clark.

I actually agree. *sigh*

I saw the scene and my first thought was, "And that's...supposed to be that (pulling up an S1 TW picture) in a year. Riiiiiight. Not if he downs a handful of steroids with eight bowls of Wheaties a day."

Plus, as cute as the kids were, the scene was a little stilted to me. It was far sweeter in my mind. JMO though.

Alicia Chipy
11-13-2008, 09:21 PM
It was cute and nostalgic.

SteveS
11-13-2008, 09:26 PM
I thought they were excellent and I loved little Chloe, she looked and acted like ClarkMan's superbest friend, they were bonding from the get go. The best ones start that way.

moviefan2k4
11-13-2008, 09:32 PM
As noted in another thread on the subject, my only real beef with this scene was the fact it was done with child actors, rather than the cast members. I know both Tom and Allison have grown considerably in the last 7 years, but with a few hair changes, some old Season 1-ish outfits, and maybe some very slight computer graphics to de-age them a bit, it really could have worked a lot better. I'd have liked that scene a whole lot more if they'd done it themselves.

lovinredkclark
11-13-2008, 09:35 PM
i thought they did a good job. at times thought it felt like young chloe wasn't understanding the emotion of what she was acting. maybe they were cast a little too young. didn't chloe move to SV when she was in the third grade? thats what clark said in his speech at her engagement party. 'i've known chloe since the third grade and i've never seen her happier.....' so maybe they should have been older. imo

Alicia Chipy
11-13-2008, 09:37 PM
The actors seemed too young to portray eighth graders.The were cloyingly cute.

superpeon1
11-13-2008, 09:41 PM
I was hoping to see a Shelby puppy.

savingpeoplething
11-13-2008, 09:46 PM
The "Obscura" flashback (or is it really considered a flashback even though we never saw it, heh?) was absolutely adorable.

The young actors weren't the best, but they still managed to make it cute. I absolutely love that Chlark bonded over their loneliness because it makes their friendship stand out. They had nobody else, but themselves, and I find that absolutely beautiful.

ForzaItalia
11-13-2008, 10:02 PM
I didn't see the episode yet. How did the actors playing young Clark and Chloe look? Like young Tom Welling and Allison Mack? How long were they there?

Ayanne
11-13-2008, 10:14 PM
So what did everybody think of it.

Clark bringing chloe her favorite book that she left behind at her old house and the kiss afterwards after he did it was so adorable. The only queston I have is, where did he get the book from? :lol:


Showing an instant "connection" - I LOVED IT!

Kal EL2380
11-13-2008, 10:19 PM
Does Chloe completely forget Clark or is his secret just removed? I didnt get to see tonights epi since the Jets game was on.

Mini Wolfsbane
11-13-2008, 10:21 PM
To everyone who's saying "They should've had the real cast members do the scene with some CGI." I have a reply to that:

If my memory is right, that was supposed to have happened when they were about 12.
(Or 13, since everyone is saying in a years time it would've been the pilot. Meh, same difference.)
Think about it. 12 years old people.
No way in heck could AM and CK portray themselves as 12/13 years old now.
I don't care how much CGI is used. Not. Happening.

I totally bought mini Chloe (Eventhough she was a bit too chubby. Egh? Chloe=chubby?
Um, no.), but Clark....no way was that Clark. The casting director must've been without their glasses when they cast (Remember, casted is NOT a word!) that kid because looks-wise he didn't convince me as well as mini Chloe did.

Mini Chloe was wearing a wig? I have a horrible time telling wigs from real hair, so I guess it's normal that I didn't notice. Plus the lighting seemed blinding in that scene, so I guess my eyes are just bad.
LOL. (Not really.)

Mog-el
11-13-2008, 10:24 PM
Does Chloe completely forget Clark or is his secret just removed? I didnt get to see tonights epi since the Jets game was on.

She lost her memories of all of clark secrets.

ceve2001
11-13-2008, 10:26 PM
I thought it was sweet. It was kinda hard trying not to look at the bad wig...I wish they pulled one side behind the ear to make it seem more natural. But overall I thought it was SWEEeeet :)

Super EJ
11-13-2008, 10:39 PM
hahah i though it was cute, but unbelieveable since that scene was supposed to take place in their 8th grade year [a year before season 1] Uh, ya i dont think it was 8th grade, they did say they've known each other since 3rd grade if im right.

Black Panda
11-13-2008, 10:41 PM
It was sweet and the little girl playing Chloe was an excellent choice.

Yeah, the actors were a bit stilted, but not that terrible. They weren't quite up to the dialog, but it was still a super cool scene.

The horrid wig on little Chloe was very John Waters though and really threw me.

Super EJ
11-13-2008, 10:43 PM
Uh, ya i dont think it was 8th grade, they did say they've known each other since 3rd grade if im right.
Ok ya nevr mind my mistake it was 8th grade, although the kid playing Clark was good, it wasnt beliveable because Clark isnt that outgoing.

Black Panda
11-13-2008, 10:43 PM
No way in heck could AM and CK portray themselves as 12/13 years old now.


If you look at Season 1 picks they have always looked ridiculously inappropriate for their age, and it's a fantasy sequence. So that would have been fine. However, I think young kids emphasizes the vulnerability.

Arwenstar
11-13-2008, 11:00 PM
The kids were adorable. I thought the scene was cute. :)

HeartChakraBabe
11-13-2008, 11:06 PM
Yeah, CUTE about sums it up! :) I liked it when Clark used his superspeed to get her the book. :lol:

chlark-x
11-13-2008, 11:09 PM
it was better than adorable words can't describe it.

it was cute as hell when she was trying to hold onto the memory by trying to pull him into another

all around it was one on my favorite chlark kisses even if it was when they were younger

ginnyfan
11-13-2008, 11:09 PM
Overall I loved the scene. This was one of my favorite Clark monologues from Season 1. I thought young Chloe was well cast. The scene could have been directed better. The blocking was awkward. Then the dialog... the writing in the whole episode was clunky but... what child talks about their bad socialization skills? I mean I don't even think Chloe would say some of the stuff this child said. LOL!

Other than that it was so cute. :D

myankskent
11-13-2008, 11:18 PM
It was better than I thought it was going to be. I had my doubts about the scene but it was played very well. And I loved how they had to run down the stairs as the steps started to vanish.

unfocused
11-14-2008, 12:13 AM
I think it's more important that Chloe be given the freedom to live without the burden of such an incredible secret. It's unfair to Clark that she knows, she knows the dangers, so does he, but she's the one willing to put both of them in danger just knowing the secret. It benefits neither in any way for Chloe to know his secret, it can only harm them both.

And quite frankly, she was holding him back, in much the same way he was holding her back. Without Chloe, Clark can't depend on anyone else, and that's a good thing. And it's vice versa as well.

I loved the cuteness of their open relationship to. But we all need to move on.

I'll be honest though, I do think Chloe will somehow be put back into the loop and Clark will tell her about his secret when he is ready.

moviefan2k4
11-14-2008, 12:32 AM
If my memory is right, that was supposed to have happened when they were about 12.
(Or 13, since everyone is saying in a years time it would've been the pilot. Meh, same difference.)
Think about it. 12 years old people.
No way in heck could AM and CK portray themselves as 12/13 years old now.
I don't care how much CGI is used. Not. Happening.Actually, Clark was 15 in the pilot episode, played by a (then) 24-year-old Tom Welling. Allison was 19, playing Chloe at 15 as well. With a bit of CGI for the cloesups, and the aforementioned costume and hair changes, I think the original actors could've made it work. Jason Behr was 27 in the pilot for "Roswell", playing Max at 16; if they managed to do it in 2001, how come the "Smallville" VFX crew couldn't have done it now (aside from the budget)?

MeKa
11-14-2008, 12:59 AM
It was cute but terribly acted. The girl's wig was a parody of Chloe's hair before. Not nice at all.

Cromartiefan
11-14-2008, 01:43 AM
..actually young Chloe's hair looked a little like my ex's

Bizarrolover
11-14-2008, 03:59 AM
I agree, the wig was horrible, but the effects of her fading memories were great. I loved how the steps disappeared as they ran down the stairs.

unfocused
11-14-2008, 04:09 AM
Yes, definitely a VERY good take on how mindwipes work.

skully
11-14-2008, 05:43 AM
Great scene, and a very faithful recreation of the scene Clark and Lana played out in Obscura when Clark recounted his first kiss - with Chloe. The scene in Abyss was word for word with Clark saying that Chloe said "I know you've been thinking about that all day, so I figured we'd get it out of the way and be friends.". His first ever kiss. :)

Pity they got things so wrong in Progeny with Chloe's early years.

FlashInSV
11-14-2008, 06:57 AM
The cutest scene I've ever watched on Smallville. Well done to the writers and director. Also, the kids did an awesome job!

gameface25
11-14-2008, 07:07 AM
The little girl from the barn scene circa 10 years ago, nailed it. Her mannerisms, the way she talked and words she chose, laughed, facial expressions... all were perfectly like Allisons portrayal of Chloe.

If I had no sense I would swear that was Allison 10 years ago

Buddy91
11-14-2008, 07:13 AM
and clarks acting was just terrible

gameface25
11-14-2008, 07:16 AM
I dunno, he had his moments. One line he would seem just like Tom, the next nowhere near.

But man that lil girl blew me away. For me to even notice something like that from a first viewing, is saying something. I usually get too caught up in the plot to watch acting.

Makes me wonder if the girl practiced mimicking Allison, or if she really is just very similar

redeem147
11-14-2008, 07:17 AM
That little girl was great. She looked like Allison and she had her character.

gameface25
11-14-2008, 07:43 AM
Why did a thread that had to do with an actress' acting get moved into a kiss thread?

this is why I dont bother posting here. you can have 50 zillion polls, 100 ship threads, 1 million Chloe = Lois posts, but you make a thread on its own subject and it gets lumped into unrelated crap

Back to being a lurker and not a poster

BIGBLUE1
11-14-2008, 08:28 AM
cute. when i heard about the spoiler i thought it was going to be of them like in high school but the young kid affect was awesome an chloe with her cute lil hair from the pilot.. awesome

Kalista
11-14-2008, 09:33 AM
The young actors weren't very good but it was still cute and love who young Chloe fought to keep him safe in her mind. :(

justme_007
11-14-2008, 09:56 AM
young chloe was cute but young clark was not that believable as clark... just my opinion. The pilot is one year after this scene? they were two young

Kal-alien
11-14-2008, 10:00 AM
some of you vultures would have picked it apart no matter who was in it, how old they looked, and everything else. Let's not forget how much older than 14 Clark was when he was supposed to be a freshman. Talk about unbelievable.

moviefan2k4
11-14-2008, 10:57 AM
Let's not forget how much older than 14 Clark was when he was supposed to be a freshman. Talk about unbelievable.On a certain level, I suppose you're right, but when dealing with Superman a lot of fans allow for some leeway. After all, has it ever been firmly established exactly how fast or slow Kryptonians age on Earth? Various episodes of the series have suggested that Clark will outlive everyone he cares for, so it stands to reason his appearance over time would change differently from everyone else's...just a thought.

Eurynome
11-14-2008, 11:50 AM
My impression of it was that they met in Middle School. The kids they cast look like they belonged in Elementary school. I think Clark got the book from the library, but his superspeed wasn't that fast in the first season. It significantly increased by season 5 when he was covering thousands of miles in a blink. I liked how they used the exact line that Clark tells Lana about the kiss.

ms.c.
11-14-2008, 11:54 AM
The actors were too young and little Clark was especially not expressive. They didn't capture Chloe and Clark very well.

SUPERMANUSA
11-14-2008, 12:36 PM
It was sweet. But I do have to say, the former librarian in me couldn't help but think, "That boy is going to have KILLER overdue fines!"

:lol: :lol:

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The actors were too young and little Clark was especially not expressive. They didn't capture Chloe and Clark very well.I disagree. I thought the girl played Chloe perfectly! And the kid that played Clark did an excellent job! Clark isn't suppose to have too much expression. He's a Kryptonian! Not a human!

Iluvgreen
11-14-2008, 12:40 PM
They weren't suposed to be in 8th grade. I though it was 7th. They were 13. But they did look really young compared to the first season. But I thought they did it really good. They acted it just like the characters are.

skylar
11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
It was a little weird watching young Clark and young Chloe they should have been a little older to make it more believable to us veiwers.

borednow
11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
I think it was... really sad, watching Chloe get her great big crush and Clark just want to have a friend so bad, but still the telescope and creepy Lana stalking was in the back drop of it all. Pretty much summed up why I never Chlarked at all...

ForzaItalia
11-14-2008, 01:29 PM
Uh, ya i dont think it was 8th grade, they did say they've known each other since 3rd grade if im right.

No, in the next-to-last episode of Season 1, Clark makes it clear that Chloe moved to Smallville in the middle of 8th grade..... And in Season 1 they were suppose to be in 9th grade.

MetroGirl06
11-14-2008, 02:36 PM
I "aaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeddddddddddd" for a really long time during this scene :p

AndrewVDk
11-14-2008, 03:04 PM
I think they did a great job, especially young Chloe!

A_Chloe.S._Fan
11-14-2008, 03:05 PM
It was cute. :D

chlo-el
11-14-2008, 03:24 PM
It was sooo adorable. I liked the wig. IT was sooo early on Chloe.

TWNik
11-14-2008, 05:18 PM
The actors were too young and little Clark was especially not expressive. They didn't capture Chloe and Clark very well.

The context & concept of the scene was epic, the execution, because of the actors was not.

HeartChakraBabe
11-14-2008, 05:24 PM
The context & concept of the scene was epic, the execution, because of the actors was not.

Yeah. It's hard to find truly good child actors. There haven't been a whole lot of them that I've been impressed with. It's too bad they didn't find better, because that could have been a perfect scene. It was cute, but it could definitely have been better. :\

Krypton935
11-14-2008, 05:27 PM
I thought it was pretty good It could have been better but the kids were cute and did a pretty good job. I really liked the first kiss that was cute!

Billy Jor-El
11-14-2008, 05:50 PM
Loved the scene. The young Chloe even had AM's speech mannerisms. Very cute scene, and only reinforces that Chloe has loved Clark a long time; and to me reinforces that he should not have played havoc with her memories.

(they did look more like grade school, rather than a year before S1...but we've got more important issues to argue over!)

Kal el of krypton
11-14-2008, 06:18 PM
The flashback of clark and chloe being young and chloe kisses her and says ' i know you was thinking bout it so i got it out the way and we can be friends now' or something to those lines lol. Clark speaks of this in season 1!. I can't remember what episode exactly i think it might be obscure. yeah i think it was actual;y.

Clark was talking to lana and he talks about this exact scene! and lana also says the right person can be right infront of you and don't even realise it. I was surpirsed when they mentioned this and thought alot of people would be happy since they ***** so much about continuity and plot holes lol

OutlawAdamKnight
11-14-2008, 06:45 PM
Anybody who's dissing this scene is crazy. Way cute, the kid had me convinced a few times that he was a young Clark. Great casting and performances from those two young'uns

Bizarrolover
11-14-2008, 06:47 PM
I think it was mentioned in one of the threads. In fact, the scene was announced way before the episode aired. There's even an interview where Allison Mack talks about how they brought this two kids to recreate the conversation that Clark and Lana had in season 1. I guess in this season they paying more attention to the continuity as the have mantioned lots of things from the previous seasons.

Super Maverick
11-14-2008, 06:49 PM
it was on purpose

Fat Elvis 007
11-14-2008, 07:29 PM
That was my favorite part of the episode. I actually liked most of it up until the mind rape.

rogueslayer1985
11-14-2008, 07:30 PM
That was my favorite part of the episode. I actually liked most of it up until the mind rape.

me too but then it was ruined as you mention

clarkbunny
11-14-2008, 08:11 PM
OK here's my two cents....

Whilst the scene was certainly cute it definitely quite wasn't how I had imagined it in my head when Clark first described it.

Firstly I think I must be the only one who was surprised that the actors weren't younger. I have no idea about American school years but when Clark described it I imagined him and Chloe to be around 7-8 years old. I thought they had known each other from around that time.

Also bad wig aside, whilst the Chloe actress certainly looked ver much the part of a young Chloe Sullivan she lacked snark. I always imagined a very feisty headstrong little girl almost bullying Clark into showing her his farmhouse taking charge of the situation and planting one on Clark's lips and Clark being completely surprised by it and kind of stepping back wide eyed saying 'what was that for?'

This Chloe seemed unsure of herself, whereas the one Clark described sounded like a very confident and bold character - a city girl who considered herself streetwise compared to the country hicks in Smallville and budding young reporter. This Chloe was rather tame and meek. As for the boy I thought he was fairly convincing as a young Clark.

redRound
11-14-2008, 08:25 PM
I thought it was stiff and unconvincing. Someone up thread made the point that young Chloe seemed to say things that you felt she didn't really understand. I agree with this.

MBrittan
11-14-2008, 10:03 PM
Sorry, but I refuse to refer to it as "Chlark". Those amalgamated names are just dumb. Anway, this thread is to discuss the flashback scene in the barn with a young Chloe and a young Clark. I thought it was really well done and very well cast too (especially the girl they had play Chloe - she was perfect). I liked how the scene was lit (almost a "golden" tone to it). And I really liked how they stayed true to what they had said in an earlier season - when Chloe kissed Clark and told him she was "getting it out of the way so they could be friends". One of my favorite scenes in the whole series actually. Too bad it happened in the middle of a HORRENDOUS episode. Wiping out Chloe's memories of Clark's secret was quite possibly the WORST decision they've ever made on this show.
-M-

Khyla
11-14-2008, 10:04 PM
Young Clark and Chloe were incredibly sweet and adorable!

I think they chose younger actors because they wanted to show the span of time these two have known each other, and it worked quite well.

The scene and the performance was awesome!

MBrittan
11-14-2008, 10:05 PM
Sorry, but I refuse to refer to it as "Chlark". Those amalgamated names are just dumb. Anway, this thread is to discuss the flashback scene in the barn with a young Chloe and a young Clark. I thought it was really well done and very well cast too (especially the girl they had play Chloe - she was perfect). I liked how the scene was lit (almost a "golden" tone to it). And I really liked how they stayed true to what they had said in an earlier season - when Chloe kissed Clark and told him she was "getting it out of the way so they could be friends". One of my favorite scenes in the whole series actually. Too bad it happened in the middle of a HORRENDOUS episode. Wiping out Chloe's memories of Clark's secret was quite possibly the WORST decision they've ever made on this show.
-M-

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After going back and reading the rest of the posts on this thread, I am now conviced that some people hate everything. The nitpicking is soooooo old, it has mold on it.
-M-

ShelbyKent
11-15-2008, 12:19 AM
It was a sweet scene, and it gives extra background info on Chloe's fascination with the weird and unexplained. She sure hit the jackpot when she moved to weird, wonderful Smallville!

And I like her little speech about burying herself in books and feeling alone etc. Young Clark could relate to that feeling of "not belonging" and it was such a sweet gesture when he got her the book :)

Imzadia
11-15-2008, 01:15 AM
He was way too short to be Clark.

:rolleyes: It seems that there are several of you who reject the young actor who portrayed an 8th grade(??) Clark Kent in Chloe's flashback memory of their first kiss ...simply because the boy was 'shorter than expected'. :\ Well, I just wanted to Remind many of you that Statistically, there are many, many boys who, at that age, experience Growth Spurts of up to as much as 3 inches in a matter of months. Hypothetically, that young Clark could have grown three inches in a few months following that scene, and three inches would make a BIG Difference in his height. ;) So, IMO, it's something to consider when evaluating the physical attributes of the chosen actor for that scene. Maybe it'll help you accept him better? :cool:

I must agree that this scene was so sweet, honest, and yes, Adorable.

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Sorry, but I refuse to refer to it as "Chlark". Those amalgamated names are just dumb. Anway, this thread is to discuss the flashback scene in the barn with a young Chloe and a young Clark. I thought it was really well done and very well cast too (especially the girl they had play Chloe - she was perfect). I liked how the scene was lit (almost a "golden" tone to it). And I really liked how they stayed true to what they had said in an earlier season - when Chloe kissed Clark and told him she was "getting it out of the way so they could be friends". One of my favorite scenes in the whole series actually. Too bad it happened in the middle of a HORRENDOUS episode. Wiping out Chloe's memories of Clark's secret was quite possibly the WORST decision they've ever made on this show.
-M-

----- Added 9 Minutes later -----

After going back and reading the rest of the posts on this thread, I am now conviced that some people hate everything. The nitpicking is soooooo old, it has mold on it.
-M-

:) I just want to encourage you all who are feeling this way a little, if I may. This flashback scene is a much Cherished and Pivotal moment in the relationship between Clark and Chloe and how their friendship began with each of them learning something about who they were deep within. I Love that memory of them for that reason. So, I Disagree with you as to "Abyss" being a "HORRENDOUS" episode. Everything else about it was Great, IMO. :p

This particular discussion might need to be someplace else, but since you brought it up, I'd like to respond. I Agree with your feelings about 'wiping Chloe's memory of Clark's secret'. :( It made me sad for the both of them. I understand Clark's selfless intentions for doing it, but I feel that Chloe wasn't only Clark's trusted Confidante, he was Chloe's as well. :\ I'm reserving my present inclination to throw a 'Fit' about the situation until I get more information given a little more time. Their friendship was 'unique', because Chloe learned of his secret second-hand yet she 'carried' it well and covered for Clark without him even knowing that she knew. :cool:

It IS true, though, that she's been exposed to life-threatening danger because of her knowledge. I'm just saying, ...How do you know that it's a Permanent condition? Many of us are nursing the suspicion that her 'memory loss' may Not last. The writers have been doing so well this season, so I can't believe they'd make such a Huge stumble, in 'our' opinions, without a Huge compensation recovery plan. :D At least, that's what I'm hoping for. :\

kaam
11-15-2008, 02:20 AM
Chloe hasn't changed a bit, lol. j/k

It was cute, and so was her response to Clark after kissing him

alejandrita439
11-17-2008, 02:00 AM
i think it was a cute scene :):):)

unfocused
11-17-2008, 06:49 AM
Lol. It's possible :p

But seriously, any older and Tom and Allison would have had to act the parts themselves.

Lonnie
11-17-2008, 06:49 AM
I loved it, it was such a cute scene :)

Clarky123
11-17-2008, 07:07 AM
quite cute,


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zorasuperman
11-17-2008, 07:08 AM
lol i thought it was absolutely adorable
gosh chloe and clark were sooooooooooo cute
clark rushed to the library to go get some books
but they looked more like in 5th grade (the actors) than 8th grade. by 8th grade u should look a little bigger not baby ish. but its the thought/idea behind it that counts.

Sweetie
11-17-2008, 07:10 AM
Yeah!I thought it was adorable.But,some things never change.She's the who gave him the kiss and he didn't feel anything.When he said:what did you do that for,I thought that he was kind of cold.Even right from the beginning,Clark was on a friendship level and she the one who was falling.The little boy was so cute,he had Tom's lipps and green eyes and the little girl looked like Chloe.I though the casting was perfect,it's difficult to cast children to play characters when they were younger.May be the new producers thought they were 8 years old instead of 8 graders ;)

bobsuncorp
11-17-2008, 07:22 AM
Firstly I think I must be the only one who was surprised that the actors weren't younger. I have no idea about American school years but when Clark described it I imagined him and Chloe to be around 7-8 years old. I thought they had known each other from around that time.

I'm not sure how long ago you went to school, but in the early 90's the names were changed from 1st year etc to year 7 etc. as I understand it those terms are the same as used in the US, so grade 7 would be aged 10-11.

Thats what watching so much american tv does for you.

stenochick
11-17-2008, 08:47 AM
All I can say is that Clark had one heck of a growth spurt between 8th grade and 9th grade.

devilneedsaride
11-17-2008, 09:08 AM
I loved this scene, I thought it was adorable. I thought the young Chloe actress was really great at imitating AM's mannerisms and speaking patterns, and she really did look like her as well. I tried to look up the name of the actress so I could watch for her later, but according to imdb she wasn't credited in the episode, so if anybody knows who that was please let me know :P

Young Clark felt kind of wooden and his face was too narrow for me to buy him as TW in a year. Height, voice, muscles, whatever, can all change in a year, but basic facial structure doesn't. Also, as a previous poster mentioned, his superspeed wasn't fast enough to pull off the book stunt in the first year.

I think the discrepancy between the child actors and the regular actors is more due to TW and AM looking a good 5-10 years older than their characters during the first season than it is to the child actors being cast too young. I think they were reasonably believable 8th graders.

The thing that really bothered me about this scene is Chloe being WAY too open with her emotions, talking about how her mother left her and now she thinks everyone else is gonna leave her too, etc. Chloe has always been guarded with her emotions, especially when it has to do with her mother, and it felt pretty unbelieveable to me that she would meet some (admittedly nice) farmkid and just spill her guts.

However, all in all I thought the scene was adorable and well done, and that it was something Chlarkers have been waiting for/thinking about for a really long time, and that the direct quote at the end was really nice. I really loved this scene, it was the best part of the episode for me.

Tatiana
11-17-2008, 09:14 AM
i thought it was cute, the boy that was Clark didn't convince me too much. But I guess the focus was on Chloe and the girl did a good job, she was cute.

Marissa
11-17-2008, 09:31 AM
It was adorable. I really liked the young Chloe, she was really good in imitating the older Chloe. Although young Clark was not that great but still, cute.

BULLITT
11-17-2008, 11:37 AM
The little girl looked like AM, but I saw no resemblance to TW, in that boy.
That being said, they did a nice job, both of them.

Krpyto
11-17-2008, 12:12 PM
I dont know if they were suppose to be in 8th grade but they looked about 12, which would make them 7th grade, 2 years before Season 1.

AndiGirl
11-17-2008, 12:20 PM
It was sweet. But I do have to say, the former librarian in me couldn't help but think, "That boy is going to have KILLER overdue fines!"

Wow Jade....it must be a great minds thing, because I thought the same thing! :lol:

It was a cute scene...and Chloe was adorable. The kid who played Clark...didnt really have any of clarks manerisms. Seemed off to me.

Then they were way too young to be in 8th grade. Like a lot of people said, considering the pilot was shot in 9th. Not all that convincing.

But then I think it would have been much worse to see AM and TW trying to pretend they were 14. :lol: So I'll take it!

stenochick
11-17-2008, 12:48 PM
The little girl looked like AM, but I saw no resemblance to TW, in that boy.
That being said, they did a nice job, both of them.

Actually, I saw an old yearbook photo of TW on the TW Picture Thread and that boy actor looks a lot like TW in the photo, except that TW has a more pronounced jawline making his face wider.

The problem is that that boy is actually a young teenager while TW was 24 years old when he played a 14 yearr-old boy. There is no way that boy can resemble a 6'3", 24 year-old model turned actor.

ginnyfan
11-17-2008, 12:58 PM
I wonder if little Chloe was the first girl to visit Clark's loft. He seemed so nervous. Nice insight on Chloe's part about the telescope. I laughed when Clark lied and redirected it's gaze. :D

I didn't like how Chloe was so open about her mother either devilneedsaride. The dialog was a little clunky the whole episode though. I adore Clark speeding to get the book for Chloe. About the late fees... I doubt Clark even checked it out as fast as he took it. It hurts me to think of stealing a book from the library though.

Kalista
11-17-2008, 01:01 PM
The young actor playing Clark didn't have Clark's mannerism but I can see Clark being that awkward. He was a loner and that would explain his tendency to admire Lana from afar. You can appreciate that scene better with screencaps and gifs. That way, the bad acting is less distracting.

Serynarpc
11-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Adorable.

From the moment they met, Clark was using his powers to help Chloe and she was his emotion - super hero :) Cutest thing ever.

kp1984
11-17-2008, 02:08 PM
He was way too short to be Clark.

Yeah just imganine if that Bizzaro phantom copied his body back then. So if this was a year before season 1 then Whitney would the been in the 11th grade. Oliver, Lex and Jason would have been 20.

sithius
11-17-2008, 02:19 PM
He was way too short to be Clark.

Not at all. Some people shoot up. I knew a kid who was the shortest kid in the class until he was like 15 years old. Now he's 6'3.

ginnyfan
11-17-2008, 02:25 PM
Ha! That makes me think of Clark's line from "Metamorphosis."

He'd only outgrow Chloe vertically. :D

Welling_is_pretty
11-17-2008, 02:26 PM
It was sweet. But I do have to say, the former librarian in me couldn't help but think, "That boy is going to have KILLER overdue fines!"
I loved how they kept to what Clark told us back in the Season 1 episode Obscura, even down to the same quote.

But yeah, I thought that too! I wondered if Chloe still has that book somewhere, especially after she developed her crush on Clark!

sithius
11-17-2008, 03:00 PM
All I can say is that Clark had one heck of a growth spurt between 8th grade and 9th grade.

And some really good plastic surgery.

umm
11-17-2008, 03:15 PM
I loved this scene, I thought it was adorable. I thought the young Chloe actress was really great at imitating AM's mannerisms and speaking patterns, and she really did look like her as well....Young Clark felt kind of wooden and his face was too narrow for me to buy him as TW in a year. Height, voice, muscles, whatever, can all change in a year, but basic facial structure doesn't. Also, as a previous poster mentioned, his superspeed wasn't fast enough to pull off the book stunt in the first year.... The thing that really bothered me about this scene is Chloe being WAY too open with her emotions, talking about how her mother left her and now she thinks everyone else is gonna leave her too, etc. Chloe has always been guarded with her emotions, especially when it has to do with her mother, and it felt pretty unbelieveable to me that she would meet some (admittedly nice) farmkid and just spill her guts....

You are right, thes scene and the actors as well as young Clark and Chloe were adorable and very cute to watch. You were also right in the fact, that the young Chloe was way too open with her feelings, wery unlike the grown-up Chloe we all know and love today, or at least did before the recent mindrape, who doesn trust a lot people in her life, and frankly only Clark knows her most inner workings of the mind! That discrepancy between the young Chloe and the present one should have been adressed in the same episode, and that would have shown some honest consistency on the part of the writers!

kal-el_Girl
12-01-2008, 05:14 PM
I doubt Tom could play an 8th grader now! Have you people see him lately? He's gorgeously all man!!

you can say that again.. I just watched again "crimson" and ohh yeah he's all man :p

Red K 5
01-02-2009, 11:33 AM
OMG, that wig as HORRIBLE! :rotfl:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that