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ClarkyBoy14

11-13-2008, 07:08 PM

Was that Jor-El or Brainiac speaking to Clark at the end?

The only reasons I'm not sure are because of Jor-El's weak little "Kal-El" at the end, and IDK if Jor-El actually knows about Doomsday.

Either way, it was awesome to hear James Marsters.

Yoyo

11-13-2008, 07:17 PM

I wasn't sure either, if it's Brainiac, then that last part about it being better that Chloe doesn't know Clark's secret...just Brainiac talking?

I hope Chloe finds out his secret again...it made for an interesting friendship that's very heartwarming to see.

warriorrenegade

11-13-2008, 07:22 PM

It was Jor-El at the end. Brainiac only infiltrated the Fortress after Clark left. You can hear Jor-El try and cry out to Clark but was "choked" and Brainiac took over. Cool stuff.

Vergon6

11-13-2008, 07:41 PM

It was Jor-El at the end. Brainiac only infiltrated the Fortress after Clark left. You can hear Jor-El try and cry out to Clark but was "choked" and Brainiac took over. Cool stuff.
Exactly.

Melioratus

11-13-2008, 07:41 PM

I had closed captioning on. This new voice is the voice of Zod. Not Brainiac.

"Your son is destined to fail. Soon a new age will dawn on earth. An age of power and strength, and the fall of the House of El. Doomsday is coming. Kal-El will die... alone."

Clana4Life

11-13-2008, 07:43 PM

No, it definitely sounded like James Marsters. Maybe the captions got it wrong this time.

ClarkyBoy14

11-13-2008, 07:43 PM

That makes sense, warriorrenegade. Thanks.

I'm glad that it was Jor-El actually, because that was a nice father/son moment. :)

Kal-El-073

11-13-2008, 07:45 PM

That was James Marster's voice. Brainiac took control of the fortress after Clark left.

Mar-El

11-13-2008, 07:47 PM

It was the black oil from seasons 5 and 7. Definitely Brainiac.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

That makes sense, warriorrenegade. Thanks.

I'm glad that it was Jor-El actually, because that was a nice father/son moment. :)

Yeah I also kind of wish they had made that more self-evident, ClarkyBoy14. I wasn't sure at first either.

ClarkyBoy14

11-13-2008, 07:57 PM

So I guess Joe knows that Zod and Faora created the Doomsday creature, but he doesn't know that they attached it to his own son's spaceship. Interesting...

Melioratus

11-13-2008, 07:57 PM

susangail

11-13-2008, 08:02 PM

Maybe I'm still a little stunned by the episode, but am I the only one who thought the end was overdone?

Bizarro345

11-13-2008, 08:10 PM

Maybe I'm still a little stunned by the episode, but am I the only one who thought the end was overdone?

The end combined with the trailer for next week's epi have me so pumped! I haven't felt this excited since Bizarro was really Clark in "Gemini"!

NteEl7

11-13-2008, 08:11 PM

yeah i'm pretty sure that that was james marsters' voice as brainiac in that last scene in the fortress

C Redfield

11-13-2008, 08:13 PM

I'm a fan of Angel, Buffy, & Superman Doomsday that was definitly Marster's voice. Also awesome episode but Chloe is going to be pissed when she finds out Clark played brain butcher.

ClarkyBoy14

11-13-2008, 08:16 PM

::sigh::

I know what Brainiac is. Fortunately, I know James Marsters, too. That's not him. He's not contracted to come back (OR DO VOICEOVERS).

So, again, NO that's NOT Brainiac's voice. It's the voice they're going to use for Zod (Doomsday's 'father').

That was Brainiac's ooze rolling around. I'm pretty sure it was JM's voice.

christian_kryptonian

11-13-2008, 08:20 PM

So I guess Joe knows that Zod and Faora created the Doomsday creature, but he doesn't know that they attached it to his own son's spaceship. Interesting...

Was Doomsday attached to CLARK'S ship? I thought it was the black ship.

jqedward

11-13-2008, 08:20 PM

It sounded like Terence Stamp relived his role as Zod. That was his voice as Zod. Terence was in the credits, but JM wasn't. If it was JM's voice they would of had to credit him for the episode. They didn't so it is not JM.

susangail

11-13-2008, 08:25 PM

So is the Fortress corrupted?

C Redfield

11-13-2008, 08:27 PM

Maybe they credited him at the end like they did with Buffy when they had surprise poeple or maybe he just didn't get a credit like Lois ain Season 4. Also isn't Zod trapped in the S crystal

Theshadow129x

11-13-2008, 08:29 PM

Was that James Marsters voice at the end when brainiac took over the fortress? I would love to know right now. If so then it is likely that he will return at the end of the season.

Thoughts?

Meteror Freak

11-13-2008, 08:34 PM

I have no clue. I think it will definately be in future episodes, so I will say Yes.:D

warriorrenegade

11-13-2008, 08:36 PM

Yes it was his voice. Don't know if he'll be in future episodes, but I wouldn't count him out.

harryandginnyfanatic

11-13-2008, 08:36 PM

I think they're saving on the budget by not having Marsters appear but they're keeping Brainiac around in another form.

Ardiem3

11-13-2008, 08:37 PM

I dont believe it was James because if it was, we would of heard about it from somewhere, and it really didnt sound like him...

Dark_Superman

11-13-2008, 08:39 PM

it was him, of that much i am certain of

krewsaider

11-13-2008, 08:39 PM

I thought it was him and I was surprised. Someone needs to find out for real.

minerva73

11-13-2008, 08:40 PM

I dont believe it was James because if it was, we would of heard about it from somewhere, and it really didnt sound like him...

Maybe it was one of the big secrets that they kept under wraps like the Bizi reveal in Gemini or Chloe being a murderer in Identity. I think that they added the sound effects of the Fortress to his voice or they used something to alter his voice a bit, so it'd gain that ominous Fortress feeling while still being Brainiac.

Dor el

11-13-2008, 08:41 PM

::sigh::

I know what Brainiac is. Fortunately, I know James Marsters, too. That's not him. He's not contracted to come back (OR DO VOICEOVERS).

So, again, NO that's NOT Brainiac's voice. It's the voice they're going to use for Zod (Doomsday's 'father').

Didn't sound exactly like James Marsters to me either. Guess it could have been someone trying to sound like James Marsters.

Theshadow129x

11-13-2008, 08:43 PM

it'd be awesome if it was. its like all this is b y zod's planning. Brainiac i.e. Milton Fine i.e.e. James marsters returns before the possible finale for a grand plan to end the world and rid it of Kal-el. Like it would be a fitting end for the season...and the series.

Karafan1

11-13-2008, 08:56 PM

It didn't sound like James Marsters. My way out there theory is that it was a pre-recorded message from General Zod. Since Faora said Doomsday is her and Zod's creation it might not be to far fetched..

Karafan1

11-13-2008, 09:15 PM

It was Jor-El. Remember Jor-El said Brainiac is highly unpredictable and there is no way of knowing what the outcome will be..It looks like the outcome was Brainiac taking over the fortress..

Srp5548

11-13-2008, 09:30 PM

I was really stunned by his voice cameo at the end of the episode! I didnt see him mentioned in spoilers so Im wandering if he may return for a few episodes later this season. It seems the Braniac character is looking to serve Doomsday like he did his creator Zod. does anyone know if he may return to play Braniac or atleast portray the voice like he did at the end of Abyss?

avisray1992

11-13-2008, 09:48 PM

Was that him? To me it sounded like Terence Stamp (Jor-El) making his voice sound different or something :confused:

I hope he is coming back though, and not just as a voice!

Srp5548

11-13-2008, 09:52 PM

After watching the eps end many times it seems to definately be Marsters voice! to me it doesn't make sense to use his voice now and not use it later!

christian_kryptonian

11-13-2008, 09:54 PM

I think it was his voice. I hope he returns, but now I think he is returning all for his own gain, and not to serve Doomsday or anyone else.

redkryptoniteisthebest

11-13-2008, 09:59 PM

What did he say?

Clana4Life

11-13-2008, 10:03 PM

I think it was James Marsters. He was just uncredited in this episode, but given the fact that Brainiac seeped out of Chloe and them infected the FOS, it would seem that it would be James Marsters. Sometimes actors aren't credited for episodes they appear in.

JEWCY

11-13-2008, 10:06 PM

Definitely was Marsters.

Listen closely and it was him.

That will be great when they reintroduce Brainiac hopefully in the next couple of episodes. Would love to see a showdown of Brainiac/Doomsday/Clark/Jonn Jones/Justice League in some fashion

Ray Man

11-13-2008, 10:11 PM

I hope we get to see Brainiac try and impersonate Jor-el and for Clark to fall under his trap!

Srp5548

11-13-2008, 10:12 PM

I read somewhere that Marsters was interested in returning this season and Braniac is mentioned in the spoilers for the Legion episode. Plus we dont know whats planned for the 2nd half of the season as there r no more Doomsday spoilers either after next weeks ep. So they may use his voice a couple times for a line here or there then bring him back at the end of the season. I think he went uncredited so it would shock everybody at the end!

Rhaspodel

11-13-2008, 10:31 PM

What did he say?

I hear Jor-El say "Kal-El, help..." and then Brainiac took over and the voice who I don't know maybe somone voicing like Marsters, but not saying it's futile that eventually Doomsday will come and the whole fortress was like it was in eariler season 6 very black.

Theshadow129x

11-13-2008, 10:40 PM

i think it would be great for marsters to return. i hate when new people take over roles from other people that have made the roles noticeable. i hope james comes back.

----- Added 30 Seconds later -----

i mean i know he's king piccolo and all but please let him return.

ChronX4

11-13-2008, 10:54 PM

i mean i know he's king piccolo and all but please let him return.

I think they're done with filming, I mean it was suppose to be out around this time but was delayed until next year.

Ray Man

11-13-2008, 10:58 PM

What would be great since Clark and Jor-el are speaking together now is that Fine uses this to his advantage and makes a hologram of "Jor-el" and traps Clark in 1 of thoes cube things the real Jor-el did when Bizzy came back.

superspider02

11-13-2008, 11:09 PM

it totally sounded like james to me. and like other posters said they probably didnt reveal it to keep it totally a surprise. Now if it was truly james, with this voice recording i so hope we do get to see him phsyically return later in the season.

Spirit Detective

11-13-2008, 11:16 PM

I really hope that it's him

Marsters IS Brainiac.

The Great Ymmij

11-13-2008, 11:21 PM

If it was Marsters, then I wonder why he wasn't credited when Terrence Stamp was. I guess they didn't want the viewers to know in the beginning of the episode?

myankskent

11-13-2008, 11:38 PM

It definitely sounded like Marsters. I don't see why TPTB wouldn't get him to do it. If they can get Terence Stamp to do the voice from another country, I'm sure they would be able to get JM to do it. Plus, I have a feeling that JM is itching to return to Smallville. He seemed to want to come back this season.

I_am_LEX

11-13-2008, 11:51 PM

i think it was james' voice... i mean, it would just be a voice over, so it woudnt be hard to get. brainiac wants control of the fortress to train davis... just like jor-el was doing for clark. i thought it was interesting how brainiac knew what to do after it got into chloe. like, it planned it all out from day one how it was going to get out and where it needed to be and all that stuff. and it worked perfectly and now he's got the fortress too. the writers really have this season going... i hope they already have a plan for where its gonna end up so that there is no fallouts later. im guessing that clark will save the fortress somehow, and brainiac will return in form to continue davis' training becuz he's gonna tell him where is is from and what he is and that his destiny is to rule and all that. and doomsday will be the reason he finally trains with jor-el... that was an idea of mine about 2 yrs ago actually...

"Lois I Never Lie"

11-14-2008, 01:39 AM

Ok ive listened to this using sophisticated sound equipment and all voices have a tone and pitch that you can’t fake when reading them through this and it doesn’t match Terence or James as ive compared them, so either they couldn’t get James to record his part for this or Jason my be right, this could be the first time that we have heard Zod’s real voice.

Vergon6

11-14-2008, 01:48 AM

But how could it be Zod's voice when it was Brainiac that came out of Chloe's head and enveloped the Fortress, not Zod?

"Lois I Never Lie"

11-14-2008, 01:51 AM

Good point David, a lot doesnt add up here, but this voice digitiser never lies and the pattern of the voice at the end of the episode doesnt match either of them.

migo

11-14-2008, 02:05 AM

I bet they never thought anyone would analyse the sound patterns.

Vergon6

11-14-2008, 02:26 AM

I bet they never thought anyone would analyse the sound patterns.
Yeah. Now that I hear it, it may be someone trying their best to do a James Marsters impression.

AgentChaos

11-14-2008, 02:34 AM

Was Doomsday attached to CLARK'S ship? I thought it was the black ship.

FaoraLois stated in Bloodline that it was Clark's ship.

Vergon6

11-14-2008, 02:39 AM

FaoraLois stated in Bloodline that it was Clark's ship.
Right. My guess is that Brainiac put the genetic material there when he went back in time to Krypton in "Apocalypse".

Chlois Supporter

11-14-2008, 03:34 AM

Good point David, a lot doesnt add up here, but this voice digitiser never lies and the pattern of the voice at the end of the episode doesnt match either of them.

Sorry man. I'm sticking to the fact that that was James Marsters voice. That was Brainiac. I've watched this show from the beginning, as well as Buffy, Angel, House On Haunted Hill etc. I know James Marster's voice, and that was JM.MOD EDIT

cloisornothing

11-14-2008, 04:48 AM

This is definitively Zod. Jor-El can't say such things. And Brainiac doesn't have that same voice (James Marsters is not credited and I can say that it's not James Marsters' voice). Remember that Terence Stamp played Zod in Superman II. That's a great point having the same actor having the same voice for the same character he played in Superman II.

BaGz

11-14-2008, 05:19 AM

That is definitely not James Masters voice.

superpal1

11-14-2008, 06:34 AM

I think that it was Jor-el at the end. Because at the end don't you hear both Jor-el and Brainiac talking at the same time.

tomos

11-14-2008, 06:51 AM

was absolutely JMs voice. cant watch buffy for all those years and not know that voice.

TV.com also agrees

http://www.tv.com/smallville/abyss/episode/1227853/summary.html

FlashInSV

11-14-2008, 06:57 AM

Either way, it was awesome to hear James Marsters.

I second that! :lol: Looove to have him back!

Cromartiefan

11-14-2008, 07:07 AM

it was either JM or someone trying to sound like JM. it was almost certainly NOT Zod. and BrainIAC infected the fortress only after Clark left.

I don't think BrainIAC had anything to do with Doomsday being attached to the ship though - he's a disciple of Zod, so it makes sense that he'd know about Doomsday, but I don't know of any evidence that he was involved in doomsday's creation or coming to earth.

The Fortress of Doom will be an interesting proposition though.

redeem147

11-14-2008, 07:15 AM

That was James at the end. I'd know that voice anywhere. I hear it in my sleep.

Okay. TMI?

carlomato

11-14-2008, 08:26 AM

It´s James Marsters confirmed by tv.com

BIGBLUE1

11-14-2008, 08:33 AM

mmm i dunno i tried to think of some of the lines that i heard brainiac talking and they might be a bunch of different things spread out through season 5 till now. i only say that because i did not see marsters name in the credits so legally smallville can use prior episodes to create a dialogue of a combination of marsters but i really hope to see brainiac soon .. even tho i know marster is doing he dragonball movie... ( off the subject but if any of you haven't seen the trailer marsters loook sooooo awesome as piccilo)

gem65

11-14-2008, 08:35 AM

It sounded like James Marsters voice to me. I guess I'll have to watch that scene again.

Bizarrolover

11-14-2008, 08:36 AM

It was james Master's voice. It was just chilling to hear him!

roccanater

11-14-2008, 08:47 AM

I'm not sure if it was his voice. It kind of sounded like him but I cannot be sure as of now.

justme_007

11-14-2008, 09:16 AM

I was a "Buffy, the vampire slayer" as well as "Angel"´s fan.. i can assure you that this was James Marsters´voice

I was wondering why he wasn´t in the credits? He should be, right ?

Mickey_Bickey

11-14-2008, 09:24 AM

I watched it a couple of times, and I thought it sounded more like John Glover/Lionel Luthor especially when he says "you're son is doomed to fail"!

I could be wrong, but that's who it sounded like to me.

stenochick

11-14-2008, 09:32 AM

To me it sounded like an unknown actor imitating the voice of James Marsters' Milton Fine.

Also, in the captions, the last line spoken by Brainiac was "Kal-el will die alone" but this line was never spoken out loud.

mistaguitarmasta

11-14-2008, 09:32 AM

It sorta sounded like Marsters, it was clearly meant to be. Whether it really was him, I'm not positive. I rewatched that part a few times, but I still can't tell with absolute certainty one way or the other. But I will definitely say it was meant to sound like, if nothing else.

stenochick

11-14-2008, 09:34 AM

It´s James Marsters confirmed by tv.com

That's great if it was. What do I know, anyway?

warriorrenegade

11-14-2008, 10:06 AM

During the final scene when Brainiac was infecting the FoS. A few words of dialog were cut. Just after Brainiac said " Doomsday is here" it went to credits. But I had the captions on on my TV and the rest of that sentence read. "And Kal-El will die...Alone".

Just wondering had anyone else noticed this...or is my TV screwed up LOL.

cloisornothing

11-14-2008, 10:17 AM

It's not James Marsters, he's not even credited on IMDB.com. It is Terence Stamp dubbing Zod's voice, remember that he played General Zod in Superman II. It can't be James Marsters too, because James has a very different voice comparing to Terence Stamp.

Though, I'd like seeing again James Marsters on the show.

jimmyolsenblues

11-14-2008, 10:20 AM

I really think its both Terence Stamp and James marsters. I think its two voices.

stenochick

11-14-2008, 10:57 AM

SparkleforSmallville

11-14-2008, 10:58 AM

Yeah it was! When I heard James Marsters' voice, I thought we were going to get a reveal, like at the end of Arrival! That would have been so Cool!

Jaderoyale

11-14-2008, 11:03 AM

I'm convinced it was James Marsters.
Whether thats my madness and love for the James, i do not know.

jimmyolsenblues

11-14-2008, 11:08 AM

I'm convinced it was James Marsters.
Whether thats my madness and love for the James, i do not know.

i agree...spike is one of the greatest characters ever on tv or any universe for that matter

ms.c.

11-14-2008, 11:55 AM

I am pretty sure it was James Marsters. It sounded like him. I liked how it went from Jorel to Brainiac. Very cool.

Who

11-14-2008, 11:59 AM

I heard Brainaic's voice. Whether they used an old recording of James or a new one that is the debatable. I guess you could say it was Zod's voice too as it was Terrance Stamp who played the character. ;)

SinoSupermanfromSD

11-14-2008, 12:07 PM

I think it was actually Darkseid, who's been pulling the strings all along.

borednow

11-14-2008, 12:47 PM

I don't know what you all are talking about it was totally Pete!

Zooks

11-14-2008, 04:21 PM

imdb is never a reliable source... especially a day after the episode.

and i'm pretty sure it was marsters....

keep in mind that Terrence Stamp's name was secret in Calling (i think it might've been in the end credits).

HeartChakraBabe

11-14-2008, 05:16 PM

There were moments when I thought it sounded exactly like James Marsters, and then there were moments I thought it didn't, so I'm not sure....I hope it was, and that JM will be back to portray Brainiac. I confess I think he's very, very sexy. (Aaaaw, Spike!)*blushes* :lol:

Krypton935

11-14-2008, 05:31 PM

I'm pretty sure it was him-at least it definitely sounded like him

Kal el of krypton

11-14-2008, 06:31 PM

Jor el says my son, my son and then brainiac says;

'your son is destined to fail, soon a new age will dorn on earth, an age of power, and strength... and fall of the house of EL.... doomsday is coming'

sorry if mispelt dorn LOLi don't know the spelling of it, maybe its dourn meh i dunno lol

OutlawAdamKnight

11-14-2008, 06:31 PM

Definitely his voice. There' is no way Marsters will not be Reprising brainiac

Zac Reynolds

11-14-2008, 08:04 PM

Theshadow129x

11-15-2008, 03:57 AM

my thing is that in james marsters returns then ido you think they are possibly talking to Micheal Rosenbaum for the finale? Smallville is doing better than it was doing this time last year so i was curious. It's be nice it would really show how PS3 took the show to heights we never thought of. well they are doing that already to be honest lol

psyko69

11-15-2008, 06:04 AM

Guys, that was totally James. He went uncredited to add surprise. I asked Craig about his return weeks ago and never heard anything. Generally I take no comment to mean yes. PS3 probably wanted his return to be a surprise.

Both Giles and Lindsey went uncredited in there surprise returns.

I've heard James' voice enough by now to know that was definitely him.

IMDB should correct itself soon, but that was definitely Brainiac's voice.

stenochick

11-15-2008, 06:08 AM

It sounded like James Marsters to me.
I was watching the last scene with subtitles on and I noticed that after Brainiac said, "Doomsday is coming." the subtitles added, "Kal-El will die....alone."
Did anybody else notice this?

yes. I mentioned it on the previous page. Interesting line. I think they just wanted the scene to end with "Doomsday is coming" so they omitted the Kal-el that was in the original script.

kaam

11-15-2008, 08:07 AM

Brainiac is very smart and I think now that he got to the fortress, he can repair himself just like he repaired himself using Dax-ur's memory (because the fortress contains all the knowledge)

razta

11-15-2008, 10:33 AM

James Marsters is such a typical English Bad guy.. Brainiac bloody brilliant.. what a Cliffhanger.. honestly, they've really got it right. I wonder how Kal-El will finish him, or get rid of him from earth?

Melioratus

11-15-2008, 11:25 AM

I was wrong. I talked to James this morning. IT IS JAMES MARSTERS VOICE. FOR SURE.

Zac Reynolds

11-15-2008, 11:29 AM

yes. I mentioned it on the previous page. Interesting line. I think they just wanted the scene to end with "Doomsday is coming" so they omitted the Kal-el that was in the original script.

Wow, I'm really sorry. Turns out I was the second person to post that. I need to start reading all of the posts before I post. :P

Vindellavon

11-15-2008, 11:35 AM

I want Marsters back for an episode. Oh the agony Clark Kent will feel when the doody hits the fan. Again.

LegendaryU2K

11-15-2008, 11:55 AM

I am going to upload a sound clip of that soon, that was no jorel or brainiac, infact, if you listen close, it sounds like jorel was in pain calling clark's name, because that black liquid effected the FOS.

EDIT: TVSHOW says it was james, but he sounded different, maybe it was him, but he sounded completely different, lol like he was really serious about saying it.

"Lois I Never Lie"

11-15-2008, 12:51 PM

Sorry man. I'm sticking to the fact that that was James Marsters voice. That was Brainiac. I've watched this show from the beginning, as well as Buffy, Angel, House On Haunted Hill etc. I know James Marster's voice, and that was JM. MOD EDIT

MOD EDIT

SUPERMANUSA

11-15-2008, 12:55 PM

I hope it isn't James Marster that comes back to be Brainiac. I can't stand that guy and his lack of acting.

"Lois I Never Lie"

11-15-2008, 12:56 PM

I hope it isn't James Marster that comes back to be Brainiac. I can't stand that guy and his lack of acting.

He was good in Buffy but not so good in Smallville.

SUPERMANUSA

11-15-2008, 01:02 PM

I understand Brainiac should be a certain way in his emotions, but even that Marsters guy doesn't seem to get it right which makes it unbearable. Just who he is as a person doesn't fit or can't fit the appropriate characterization of a Brainiac. A bad choice in my opinion.

LegendaryU2K

11-15-2008, 01:24 PM

MOD EDIT

James is awesome as Brainiac. But i do want to add, maybe its time for him to suit up , you know design a cool outfit so he can wear, maybe wear something like the old superman the movie outfits.

oldblackmagick

11-15-2008, 02:07 PM

I watched buffy for a long time and listened to many commentaries with james marsters but my only question is was it recorder last year or is it new...if it was last year they wouldn't have to credit him for it because he was already payed for it. But IT IS FOR SURE JAMES MARSTERS

migo

11-15-2008, 05:15 PM

superhippie2000

11-15-2008, 06:04 PM

i think it was jor el until the brainiac goo started taking over the fortress.

krpto

11-15-2008, 06:32 PM

i think it was jor el until the brainiac goo started taking over the fortress.

Exactly it was jor-el till the voice started messing up then brainiac took over.

Timester

11-15-2008, 06:37 PM

It was Brainiac talking to Jor-El right after Clark left.

And now begins the Battle of the Kryptonian AIs. :p

superhippie2000

11-15-2008, 06:41 PM

Exactly it was jor-el till the voice started messing up then brainiac took over.
yup. cause jor el was kind of saying helop me or something.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

It was Brainiac talking to Jor-El right after Clark left.

And now begins the Battle of the Kryptonian AIs. :p
ya cant wait to see whats going to happen at the fortress. maybe the fortress becomes doomsdays

"Lois I Never Lie"

11-16-2008, 05:11 AM

yup. cause jor el was kind of saying help me or something.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

ya cant wait to see whats going to happen at the fortress. maybe the fortress becomes doomsdays

Thats an interesting idea, would certainly explain why it turned black and the symbol for doom appeared in the middle of it!!!!

Sweetie

11-16-2008, 08:59 AM

Yes,it was James Masters who talk at the end.It was awesome to hear his voice.Now if only I could hear Michael Rosenbaum's voice over the phone,I'll be in heaven :)

Tatiana

11-16-2008, 09:16 AM

Right. My guess is that Brainiac put the genetic material there when he went back in time to Krypton in "Apocalypse".

That is a very good theory, sounds very possible. It would be great for continuity

dotsie23

11-16-2008, 09:16 AM

Yes,it was James Masters who talk at the end.It was awesome to hear his voice.Now if only I could hear Michael Rosenbaum's voice over the phone,I'll be in heaven :)

I think it was James too in that last scene which was just awesome! And as a lot of you Buffy fans know, James used a very good UK accent when he played Spike...I actually thought he was from the UK.:)

ClLaLeChFAN01

11-16-2008, 09:17 AM

it was jor-el he was speaking to

Tatiana

11-16-2008, 09:21 AM

krpto

11-16-2008, 09:45 AM

Maybe it isn't him, isn't he still working on that DragonBall movie?

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I search his IBM and they don't list him doing the voice over for this episode, the last one they have for him is Artic

Sorry to burst your bubble but IMDB is far from reliable they have had bizzaro listed as appearing in several episodes this season wich he hasn't only character played by tom to appear this season is clark so them not listing JM in this episode doesn't mean a thing.

ClarkyBoy14

11-16-2008, 01:10 PM

Has anyone downloaded this from iTunes? If you did, you can just check the end credits and see if James Marsters is listed.

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Right. My guess is that Brainiac put the genetic material there when he went back in time to Krypton in "Apocalypse".

Could be.

For now, though, I'm going to say that it was put on Clark's ship before Brainiac went back.

Atomic girl

11-16-2008, 03:59 PM

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bizzaro93

11-16-2008, 04:34 PM

Whats going to happen now? Clark is obviously going to go to Jor-El for help but, DA DAAAA, Braniac will probably give him the wrong advice. But I wonder, is the Fortress still going to be Black or is Braniac going to change it to trick Clark?

Tatiana

11-16-2008, 10:01 PM

I sent a question to James official website, where he sometimes writes on his log and answers questions. I asked if it was really him, his voice at the end of the episode Abyss, and they answered me yes.
Yes, it was James doing the voiceover in Abyss. Hope this helps!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
JM.com

I asked too if he would appear again though lol and they didn't answer that sniff

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Sorry to burst your bubble but IMDB is far from reliable they have had bizzaro listed as appearing in several episodes this season wich he hasn't only character played by tom to appear this season is clark so them not listing JM in this episode doesn't mean a thing.

Oh ok no worries, no bubble here lol I never thought it was so reliable anyway :) thanks for answering the question

stenochick

11-17-2008, 08:49 AM

Wow, I'm really sorry. Turns out I was the second person to post that. I need to start reading all of the posts before I post. :P

No problem. I just thought it was funny that it happened twice. I am guilty of posting before reading all the previous posts, too. :)

Serynarpc

11-17-2008, 02:18 PM

I always thought that Brainiac hid until Clark turned his back, than sprang on Jor El. Jor El's 'Kal - El' was 'Did something just touch me? ARGH! Son! Someone is mindraping me just like you did for your best friend, but there's no love here! Arrgh! He has a much less standing for moral high ground!'

Than, the gorgeous voice of Brainiac assured us that Clark is screwed with out Daddy or Chloe. He has Lois and her cleavage, but I have no idea how that will help against Doomsday or Brainiac.

Clark is an island and Smallville is going to hell. Woo.