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KAL-EL_3
11-13-2008, 06:37 PM
IMO that was just the best Jor-El and Kal-El scene this show has ever had WOW.
Agree?

susangail
11-13-2008, 06:41 PM
Kal-El was good, but Jor-El was a little limp. A casualty of separate recordings, I think.

KAL-EL_3
11-13-2008, 06:42 PM
Still a very good scene. Clark is grown up so much his father doesnt talk down to him anymore it seemed.

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Even the Second Scene was AWESOME. lol. Just a great Episode in general. WOW

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OMFG WOW. that was AMAZING! how can people not think this is the best season ever. He even called him father.

KalEl's Destiny
11-13-2008, 07:10 PM
Finally father and son. It was great to see Clark finally get along with his father. I thought that was a big moment in the history of Smallville...for so long they were at odds and disagreed with each other, especially Clark disagreeing with his methods...but finally...things are coming together. This season has been AWESOME.

bluehybrid69
11-13-2008, 07:16 PM
this season's quality is so much improved it is unbelievable! the father + son interaction this episode was some of the best scenes in Smallville history.

jimmyolsenblues
11-13-2008, 07:19 PM
i loved that clark and jor-el finally were on the same side.
and brainiac taking over jor-el was great.

TheLightOfKrypton
11-13-2008, 07:20 PM
I can't get the grin those scenes gave me off my face. I was glowing with pride for the father/son relationship that has been reforged. And Jor-El was positive for a change, I'm proud of you, you've matured greatly, etc. That was great and that clincher with Clark calling him father, awesome. Hope we get some more great ones. And Clark addressed the concerns over the whole tyrannical, punishing Jor-El, thank you Clark and Jor-El for clarifying that for us.

KalEl's Destiny
11-13-2008, 07:25 PM
i loved that clark and jor-el finally were on the same side.
and brainiac taking over jor-el was great.

I know! When I saw that my mouth dropped. I couldn't believe it. I figured he would just become his menacing self when he was out of Chloe, but he 1UP's me and takes over Jor-El. Unreal!

Blue Orange NY
11-13-2008, 07:30 PM
In the beginning I knew the episode might not be that great but I did enjoyed it because of the story line connecting the dots....BUT the last 5 mins ($hit all the scenes in FOS) amazing, my jaw dropped when at the end he called Jor-El "father", wow how has the boy grown up before our eyes, very impressive....then Jor-El being infected, interesting, then the preview for next week.....wow.....speechless people speechless...

unfocused
11-13-2008, 07:34 PM
The way Clark stood up to Jor-El was amazing. And topping it off with "Father." I mean.. wow. Jor -El was right, Clark has grown up, he is a man ready to take on the world. Literally.

And yes, the BrainIAC twist at the end was soooo good.

Clana4Life
11-13-2008, 07:36 PM
Yeah, I thought the best part was him saying "Father." Is Brainiac completely gone from Chloe now?

Mar-El
11-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Was that James Marsters' voice at the end?

4Clana
11-13-2008, 07:40 PM
Loved it! :D

Blue Orange NY
11-13-2008, 07:41 PM
yes, voice over....


Was that James Marsters' voice at the end?

Mar-El
11-13-2008, 07:42 PM
yes, voice over....

Awesome and a half! Just makes the scene even better.

Blue Orange NY
11-13-2008, 07:45 PM
all the scenes in the FOS were awesome, the scenes between them off the chain....People I have to be honest, I kind of dropped a tear or 2 when he said father, wow how he has grown!

LoveHurts38
11-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Clark did call him Father.

mrw66855
11-13-2008, 07:54 PM
this season's quality is so much improved it is unbelievable! the father + son interaction this episode was some of the best scenes in Smallville history.
Not only that scene (I am assuming we are talking about the end scene), every scene with those conversations between between jor-el and kal-el were fantastic imo. That is what made the episode a 10 for me. Clark finally, called his father, father, Superman is so close I can hardly stand it. Jor-el finally is acting like a friend and father figure. I knew this was good to be a good episode (because it is always a good episode, when jor-el is in it). But I never thought it would be this good. It is great that they are (hopefully) bring James back, he always does a great job. This season keeps getting better and better imo

Aloof
11-13-2008, 07:54 PM
Clark did call him Father.

Yes. That was great. :)

minerva73
11-13-2008, 07:56 PM
It was up there. It seemed very awkward when Clark went alone, but the two scenes afterwards were nice.

The thing I didn't like was Chloe bashing Jor-El before Clark went there originally. It was understandable when Lana and Lionel did it in S7 because Jor-El trapped him recently, but honestly Chloe didn't need to do that.

susangail
11-13-2008, 07:59 PM
Clark did call him Father.

I was initially touched. Then a picture of Terrence Stamp as Darth Vader flashed through my mind and ruined the moment for me.

LoveHurts38
11-13-2008, 08:03 PM
I was initially touched. Then a picture of Terrence Stamp as Darth Vader flashed through my mind and ruined the moment for me.

:lol: get your brain out of the gutter.

KalEl's Destiny
11-13-2008, 08:04 PM
I already made a topic about this:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111813

But either way without a doubt, the best scene between the two of them...and thank goodness they're both finally on the same page.

christian_kryptonian
11-13-2008, 08:07 PM
Absolutely THEE MOST satisfying Jor-El/Kal-El interaction thus far. I'm so excited for this show now, and I was so sad when Brainiac took over! I was like NOOOO! I love Jor-El now! The writers are finally sending this show toward the greatness that is Superman.

ClarkyBoy14
11-13-2008, 08:08 PM
They were really good. Clark stood up to him, yet he was still respectful. And Jor-El was actually being nice. The SM music when Clark called him Father was a nice touch too.

I'm also glad that Jor-El explained exactly what the purple apple did in the season finale.

jqedward
11-13-2008, 08:10 PM
He finally called him father! Yes we finally have the love and admiration that Kal-El has for his father in the comics on the show now. By far the best Jor-El/Kal-El interaction on the show!

ClarksGal
11-13-2008, 08:12 PM
For real! Clark was the MAN, walking in there and telling Jor El to take his deceitful, kidnapping, freezing @ss and shove it!!! Jor El was proud!!!! AAAAGGGGHHHH!!! I have dreamed of this day!!!

I love PS3.

susangail
11-13-2008, 08:13 PM
But is it all for nothing? It looked like Brainiac had infected the Fortress at the end.

ghost369
11-13-2008, 08:14 PM
All the scenes were GREAT!!! But we just got the fortress back, did BRAINIAC have to take it over so quickly and easily?

SVsleuth
11-13-2008, 08:15 PM
I loved the "Father" to Jor-El.

One thing is bothering me though. they have Clark SAYING that he's learned to save others & not just his family & friends, but his choices are not really different in this episode. I saw this episode as paralleling Reckoning in a lot of ways.

Reckoning: Lana dies. Clark asks Jor-El to fix it. Jor-El says there IS a way, but the consequences could be unexpected. Clark hardly considers the possible consequences & chooses to save Lana. Result: Jonathan dies, & Lana ends up living a life from hell.

Abyss: Chloe is all but dead, as herself. Clark asks Jor-El to fix it. Jor-El says there IS a way, but considering it involves Brainiac, the consequences could be unpredictable. Clark makes the same choice: save his loved one. Result: Brainiac infects the Fortress & the whole world will be endangered.

HOW does this show that Clark has made progess? Clark acts the same way. Chloe told him that she knew he'd do that, that's why she didn't want to tell him.

The only difference I see is that the choice Clark made about Chloe's memories he did because he really believes it is best for HER, whereas bringing Lana back was done for HIMSELF, not for Lana.

Clana4Life
11-13-2008, 08:18 PM
I loved the "Father" to Jor-El.

One thing is bothering me though. they have Clark SAYING that he's learned to save others & not just his family & friends, but his choices are not reallt differentin this episode. I saw this episode as paralleling Reckoning in a lot of ways.

Reckoning: Lana dies. Clark asks Jor-El to fix it. Jor-El says there IS a way, but the consequences could be unexpected. Clark hardly considers the possible consequences & chooses to save Lana. Result: Jonathan dies, & Lana ends up living a life from hell.

Abyss: Chloe is all but dead, as herself. Clark asks Jor-El to fix it. Jor-El says there IS a way, but considering it involves Brainiac, the consequences could be unpredictable. Clark makes the same choice: save his loved one. Result: Brainiac infects the Fortress & the whole world will be endangered.

HOW does this show progess? Clark acts the same way. Chloe told him that she knew he'd do that, that's why she didn't want to tell him.

the only difference I see is that he choice Clark made about Chloe's memories he did because he really believes it is best for HER, whereas bringing Lana back was done for HIMSELF, not for Lana.


I agree that saving Lana was for himself, but I think it was also for her. He didn't want her to die as a consequence of knowing his secret. He loved her enough to want her to live regardless of anything else.

SnowBird
11-13-2008, 08:22 PM
Clark calling Jor-El "father" was a great moment. Clark really appreciated Jor-El healing his best friend, Chloe.

Dor el
11-13-2008, 08:39 PM
As well he should. Clark now trusts Jorel. Gonna hit the fan when Jorainiac hurts Clark or gives him some really bad advice. Just when Clark starts to have a relationship with his father and is trusting him....Oh my gosh.

dunkman
11-13-2008, 08:47 PM
It was hard to tell what Jor-El's motives were early on & Clark had a hard time figuring out if he was a good guy or a bad guy; which makes sense, because Kryptonians are different that Earthlings, & Jor-El is dead, after all. But Clark heard what Kara & others said about how his father really cared about people, & he figured it out. It was great to see him & his father finally coming to an understanding!
Too bad Brainiac took Jor-El over just when he & Clark finally had a good relationship! What's going to happen now?

KalEl's Destiny
11-13-2008, 09:03 PM
I loved the "Father" to Jor-El.

One thing is bothering me though. they have Clark SAYING that he's learned to save others & not just his family & friends, but his choices are not really different in this episode. I saw this episode as paralleling Reckoning in a lot of ways.

Reckoning: Lana dies. Clark asks Jor-El to fix it. Jor-El says there IS a way, but the consequences could be unexpected. Clark hardly considers the possible consequences & chooses to save Lana. Result: Jonathan dies, & Lana ends up living a life from hell.

Abyss: Chloe is all but dead, as herself. Clark asks Jor-El to fix it. Jor-El says there IS a way, but considering it involves Brainiac, the consequences could be unpredictable. Clark makes the same choice: save his loved one. Result: Brainiac infects the Fortress & the whole world will be endangered.

HOW does this show that Clark has made progess? Clark acts the same way. Chloe told him that she knew he'd do that, that's why she didn't want to tell him.

The only difference I see is that the choice Clark made about Chloe's memories he did because he really believes it is best for HER, whereas bringing Lana back was done for HIMSELF, not for Lana.

Great assessment!!! Never thought of that. It's interesting how they parallel like that.


It was hard to tell what Jor-El's motives were early on & Clark had a hard time figuring out if he was a good guy or a bad guy; which makes sense, because Kryptonians are different that Earthlings, & Jor-El is dead, after all. But Clark heard what Kara & others said about how his father really cared about people, & he figured it out. It was great to see him & his father finally coming to an understanding!
Too bad Brainiac took Jor-El over just when he & Clark finally had a good relationship! What's going to happen now?

Yeah early in this show I was all confused about Jor-El's teachings to Clark, and his methods but now it's all starting to make sense and its great to see that they've finally come to an agreement.....



.....right after Jor-El is INFECTED by Brainiac. Go figure. Haha

SteveS
11-13-2008, 09:04 PM
Finally, a mature and intelligent episode with whatever is immature and light-weight not to be seen, excellent! One of the first to grab me emotionally and ClarkMan seeming very Superman-like. I am impressed.

And Jor-El as Father, good.

amberdawn
11-13-2008, 09:05 PM
I loved that too. Definitely the best scene in the episode.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-13-2008, 09:18 PM
It was great.

savingpeoplething
11-13-2008, 09:36 PM
Clark really stood his ground in the FoS in "Abyss" and I was really proud of him.

dru-zod2501
11-13-2008, 10:00 PM
so we're gonna have to blow up the fortress again?! after they just got it back?

I swear The only thing that gets wrecked more than the Fortress are the Kent trucks

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was it the best in the history of the show? of course!

The only thing I took issue with was when Clark accused Jor-El of treating him like an enemy, of not trusting him. Was I the only one who thought "well no duh Sherlock! you've been a blathering idiot!"

oh I forgot, that was AlMiles Clark, not PS3 Clark; sometimes I confuse them as the same person

Super EJ
11-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Ya ok! This scene kicked every single scene of Kal-El and Jor-El in the butt. No wait let me rephrase that, ASS!! This scene ROCKED!!!!!

pizzahead2490
11-13-2008, 10:28 PM
it was wonderful and clark calling jor el father i think i actually slightly started to cry

superspider02
11-13-2008, 11:03 PM
I totally loved clark's scenes with jor-el in the fos in this episode they were great. Finally where they should be, and loved he finally called jor-el "father". And wow james voice as brainiac i didnt expect that to happen, though now it has i so so so hope they get him to return phsyically.

number8
11-13-2008, 11:10 PM
Awesome ending to the episode. Especially with the "father" line!

Karafan1
11-13-2008, 11:31 PM
The end scene with Jor-El and Clark was really good..I wasn't expecting to hear "Thank you, father" from Clark..

NoSupeForYou
11-13-2008, 11:47 PM
Kind of makes sense now why Brainiac wanted to have Clark get the crystal back and to rebuild the FOS.

That FOS stuff was like an apology from PS3 for the previous seven seasons of Jor-El. I finally saw the Jor-El from the movies and the show is all the better for it.

It wasn't an action-packed episode, but it was just such a huge link in the chain between Clark and Superman.

pjack
11-13-2008, 11:56 PM
all the scenes in the FOS were awesome, the scenes between them off the chain....People I have to be honest, I kind of dropped a tear or 2 when he said father, wow how he has grown!
:lol: I agree.

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As well he should. Clark now trusts Jorel. Gonna hit the fan when Jorainiac hurts Clark or gives him some really bad advice. Just when Clark starts to have a relationship with his father and is trusting him....Oh my gosh.

You guys have some ways of come of coming up with these damn names. lol

SUPERMANUSA
11-14-2008, 12:13 AM
All the scenes were GREAT!!! But we just got the fortress back, did BRAINIAC have to take it over so quickly and easily?

Jor-El KNEW that Brainiac would take over the FOS. That is what he meant when he told Kal-El that there could be consequences for correcting Chloe. He knew that Brainiac would seep out and take over. He didn't tell Clark that because he wants Clark to (train) correct the problem himself!

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT EPISODE!
The BEST episode ever!
Keep them coming JUST LIKE THIS ONE!

smallvillerocks45
11-14-2008, 12:28 AM
Those FOS scenes were wonderful, but when Clark called Jor-El Father, that took the cake. I had a feeling he was going to say it, yet when he did, I couldn't help but be amazed, shocked, and ecstatic all at the same time. It was beautiful and it felt sincere. I loved that the most about it. Clark said it with such conviction. I'm so happy, I can't stand it.

SUPERMANUSA
11-14-2008, 12:33 AM
Oh and, GREAT ACTING JOB TOM WELLING, ALLISON MACK and everyone else!

mysticalweather
11-14-2008, 12:53 AM
IMO that was just the best Jor-El and Kal-El scene this show has ever had WOW.
Agree?

Absolutely. It was great to see Jor-El and Clark on the same page for once. Finally got the sense that Jor-El actually cares about Clark. Yay! *loves FOS*

dezperado
11-14-2008, 01:02 AM
Clark finally excepting Jor-El as Father!!! Wow, how emotional. It was awesome, son and father finally seeing eye to eye. Clark excepting the teachings of his father, and Jor-El finally expressing his personal pride in his son and how he's grown. Best scene between the two. As that scene was winding down, I could just feel the "father" label coming but wasn't sure. Then to hear it...damn...chills for real. And then Braniac unkowing to Clark, taking it all away. Can't wait for next week and January to come.

Unsound
11-14-2008, 06:32 AM
Clark finally called him father. That was a very defining moment in my eyes. It was fantastic. Superman is taking shape.

jimmyolsenblues
11-14-2008, 06:34 AM
Clark finally called him father. That was a very defining moment in my eyes. It was fantastic. Superman is taking shape.

I agree Unsound...great scene..unforgettable.

FlashInSV
11-14-2008, 06:36 AM
I honestly thought so too. This was one of the best Kal-El / Jor-El scenes ever on SV..
Clark was mature, responsible and straight-to-the-point with him and his father accepted him with less cryptic messages than any other time and told him specifiaclly what he had to do.

The second scene was obviously more powerful.

Moonshayde
11-14-2008, 06:56 AM
I feel like TPTB are playing a massive game of fix-it. We've been complaining about Clark and Jor-el for how long? And then they give us this scene and it was awesome.

Super Maverick
11-14-2008, 07:47 AM
nice to see Clark stand up to him

zguida09
11-14-2008, 07:49 AM
just him calling jor el Father makes me happy..........

Jaded Wolf
11-14-2008, 08:12 AM
Completely loved the scenes in the FOS. Clark is embracing his destiny and Jor-El didn't sound like a jerk. He sounded like a grateful father. It was good to hear Terrence Stamp's voice again as well.

BIGBLUE1
11-14-2008, 08:19 AM
absolutely.. clark really impressed me he has defeintly changed from prior seasons.. and by putting his foot down and telling jor-el what he wants he has taking that step to being a man..(superman) instead of a boy

VitalManhattan
11-14-2008, 08:29 AM
Just like Jor-El said, Clark has matured a lot; he is starting to understand (or already understands) his destiny.

It was very bold and Superman like for Clark to let Chloe go and have a normal life. This is what a "real" Superman would do.

gem65
11-14-2008, 08:41 AM
The way Clark stood up to Jor-El was amazing. And topping it off with "Father." I mean.. wow. Jor -El was right, Clark has grown up, he is a man ready to take on the world. Literally.

And yes, the BrainIAC twist at the end was soooo good.


I absolutely agree with you. That had to be the first time he ever called Jor-el "Father" and meant it.

vikingjedi
11-14-2008, 11:00 AM
Im not agreeing with whats going on. Jor-El literally tortured Clark for years. Sorry but thats not a father.

ms.c.
11-14-2008, 11:44 AM
Clark calling Jorel "Father" was a big deal. They should have put that in the trailer or a DC or something. They've been leading up to it for a long time. It was moving.

hiler1988
11-14-2008, 11:45 AM
I loved this scene...it really had that Superman-esque feel to it!! Especially when he said "thank you...father" :)

Mad Madam Mimm
11-14-2008, 09:54 PM
I loved it. Was very moved when Clark called Jor-El "Father" and had major happy flash-backs when Jor-El said he was proud of Clark. They have struck a much needed-balance btw Clark and Jor-El, they are moving away from their adversarial past toward a future where they trust each other and have a greater level of understanding than ever before. I never could really see Clark embracing his destiny and training fully while at such extreme odds with Jor-El, so this is a pleasant shift for me. Really enjoying the maturity Clark is showing this season too. He sounds so strong, so self-assured and so very ready to embrace his destiny. IMHO, TW is acting the HELL out of this season and I am eating it up with a spoon.

LionelLuthor
11-15-2008, 06:17 AM
It was up there with "My father sends his regards".

Clarky123
11-15-2008, 07:40 AM
brainiac basicly took clarks dad away from him, poor clarky!

Bizarrolover
11-15-2008, 07:50 AM
I loved how there was no warmth in Clark's voice, it looked as if he didn't want to say it, but that he felt it was necessary. He was truly thankful for what Jor-El did. I hope that, by the time this show ends, Clark will feel more attached to the fortress and start to consider it his other home.

kaam
11-15-2008, 08:01 AM
I suspected this earlier. I really loved that scene. Clark was respectful and Jor-el showed a caring side (not seen before, his last words: "son...s..o.n..") Very powerful scene. Good job PS3, keep up the great work.

cousteau
11-15-2008, 09:13 AM
Im not agreeing with whats going on. Jor-El literally tortured Clark for years. Sorry but thats not a father.

For the past 7 seasons, it wasn't really superman as far as the comic books go, so it evens out. Jor El never had an agenda to send his son to earth with the hopes that he wouldn't be evil, he sent him out of desperation and love, with a hope that he would grow and be something greater - a lasting symbol of a once proud civilisation that loved justice and peace.

Smallville had to make that more dramatic. I don't agree with that decision, but I certainly understand it from a ratings POV.

GuardianAngel
11-15-2008, 09:33 AM
Finally father and son. It was great to see Clark finally get along with his father. I thought that was a big moment in the history of Smallville...for so long they were at odds and disagreed with each other, especially Clark disagreeing with his methods...but finally...things are coming together. This season has been AWESOME.

You stole the words from my mouth! Great, great, great episode and Clark calling Jor-el father made my heart stop for a moment!

vikingjedi
11-15-2008, 09:55 AM
For the past 7 seasons, it wasn't really superman as far as the comic books go, so it evens out. Jor El never had an agenda to send his son to earth with the hopes that he wouldn't be evil, he sent him out of desperation and love, with a hope that he would grow and be something greater - a lasting symbol of a once proud civilisation that loved justice and peace.

Smallville had to make that more dramatic. I don't agree with that decision, but I certainly understand it from a ratings POV.

I thought about it and the way I'm trying to look at it now PS3 is fixing what the writers messed up in earlier seasons essentially making Jor-El evil. They're restoring the bond between them even if it doesnt make much sense at this point and thats not their fault. They're not the ones that screwed it up in the first place.

One-Winged-Angel
11-15-2008, 10:07 AM
Jor-El Respects Kal-El now

Hopefulsuicide
11-15-2008, 10:10 AM
felt entirely forced and unnatural to me... where the hell did it come from?

no i didnt like it, i didnt respect what it represented and i didnt think it fitted with the progression over the past 7 years

it was just another lightswitch :(

razta
11-15-2008, 10:19 AM
Damn that was one heck of a moment.. when he said "Father" made me almost shed a tear.

that was the best Jor-El/Kal-El scene to date.
on a slightly off topic note, the thing that's bothering me is "Terrance Stamp".. he's still general zod as far as i'm concerned.. well from the Orginal Superman Movies. I've got this proper twisted thought that one day the Jor-El AI will go "HAHAHHA ITS ME ZOD.. KNEEEEEELL!!"

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It was up there with "My father sends his regards".

That was in Zod right?

GuardianAngel
11-15-2008, 01:11 PM
IMHO, TW is acting the HELL out of this season and I am eating it up with a spoon.

You know what? I've been having the same impression. It seems to me Tom Welling is really enjoying portraying Clark this season because you can see he has grown and is definitely near to becoming Superman. I actually find that all the cast seems to be acting way better and enjoying the episodes. It doesn't seem to be just work for the actors like in the past. They seem happy with the direction the show is taking and how their characters are changing. I, for instance, find that Erica Durance has improved a lot and is really like the Lois Lane I've always imagined.

This show has taken a new path. It may be its last season, but going out with a bang is definitely better than ending the show because writers, actors and fans are tired of it.

SUPERMANUSA
11-15-2008, 01:15 PM
That was in Zod right?Yep. When Clark tricked Lex/Zod. Lex/Zod held his hand out to be kissed and Clark grabbed it with the crystal in his hand. Then he said "My father sends his regards." because I believe the crystal was from Jor-El.

hehe :D:D

J.D
11-15-2008, 03:09 PM
This season Clark has really matured and that fact is becoming more obvious, the scene between Jor-El and Clark showed that well, instead of moaning like a teenager Clark accepted his destiny and was ready for any risks could come his way.

Although it's going to be interesting how he reacts about Doomsday.

cousteau
11-15-2008, 03:13 PM
felt entirely forced and unnatural to me... where the hell did it come from?

no i didnt like it, i didnt respect what it represented and i didnt think it fitted with the progression over the past 7 years

it was just another lightswitch :(

Oh shush you. you're just pissed because you're not going to ever see the chlark you wanted. :p

Iluvgreen
11-15-2008, 05:04 PM
Clark actually called him father!!!!!!!!

NoSupeForYou
11-15-2008, 05:52 PM
You know what? I've been having the same impression. It seems to me Tom Welling is really enjoying portraying Clark this season because you can see he has grown and is definitely near to becoming Superman. I actually find that all the cast seems to be acting way better and enjoying the episodes. It doesn't seem to be just work for the actors like in the past. They seem happy with the direction the show is taking and how their characters are changing. I, for instance, find that Erica Durance has improved a lot and is really like the Lois Lane I've always imagined.

This show has taken a new path. It may be its last season, but going out with a bang is definitely better than ending the show because writers, actors and fans are tired of it.

The acting has looked better and I think TW is really enjoying doing something other than angst. It also seems to me like he's bulked up some this year. It's like he's taking it more seriously and having more fun at the same time. Maybe he wants to make sure he looks good in a certain blue suit at the end of the year?

Sweetie
11-15-2008, 07:13 PM
It was the best one.Who would not want peace between father/son.It was really touching at the end,he called him father for the first time.

superhippie2000
11-15-2008, 07:17 PM
ya i thought it was the best. clark and jor el finally understand each other and that jor el is finally letting clark make his own choices without warning him. i think jor el knows now that clark will do what he can to save the world and clark knows that jor el is proud of him foratleast trying to do good.

Leopard1789
11-15-2008, 10:03 PM
Yea it was a great scene. Everything seems to be coming together nicely. Clark working at DP, saving people in Metropolis, working with lois and connection they have there, then chloe moving away from the main story in seems, and now Clark reffering to Jorel as father, i could just tell in that scene that he was going to call him that. Seeing as season 8 if most probabily going to be the last, i think they've been doing a good job of pulling the story together and not ending in badly like by suddenly having clark fly around in a cape. I have a good feeling that they will end the show with everyone feeling fully satisfyed.

Bizarrolover
11-16-2008, 10:37 AM
What did jor-el say before the 'Thank you, father'? I couldn't get the words.

SUPERMANUSA
11-16-2008, 01:54 PM
He said something like - I will always be here for you.

Lonnie
11-16-2008, 02:39 PM
I loved it! It was great to hear Clark call him father :D

Rub-in
11-16-2008, 07:08 PM
it was one of my fav ones
but when he said
thank you "father" it became my fav scene
Thumbs up new producers

NoSupeForYou
11-16-2008, 07:22 PM
It really does seem like they have spies at this site. We complain about Shelby not being there, we get Shelby. We hate the way that the relationship between Jor-El and Clark has been portrayed, they give us Abyss. Maybe we'll get Clark flying soon?

unfocused
11-16-2008, 07:36 PM
Yea it was a great scene. Everything seems to be coming together nicely. Clark working at DP, saving people in Metropolis, working with lois and connection they have there, then chloe moving away from the main story in seems, and now Clark reffering to Jorel as father, i could just tell in that scene that he was going to call him that. Seeing as season 8 if most probabily going to be the last, i think they've been doing a good job of pulling the story together and not ending in badly like by suddenly having clark fly around in a cape. I have a good feeling that they will end the show with everyone feeling fully satisfyed.

I agree. PS3 has been pulling double duty this season making everything right and pushing the show forward. I'm really loving it and couldn't be more happy about S8.

oqllcksmallville
11-16-2008, 09:08 PM
Jor-El KNEW that Brainiac would take over the FOS. That is what he meant when he told Kal-El that there could be consequences for correcting Chloe. He knew that Brainiac would seep out and take over. He didn't tell Clark that because he wants Clark to (train) correct the problem himself!

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT EPISODE!
The BEST episode ever!
Keep them coming JUST LIKE THIS ONE!
ohman , i think you might be right .
the way Jor-El likes Clark to do things himself ,
and prepare himself for his destiny .
- but i really wish Chloe still knew his secret ,
i loved it when she did . <3

jqedward
11-16-2008, 09:43 PM
It was hard to tell what Jor-El's motives were early on & Clark had a hard time figuring out if he was a good guy or a bad guy; which makes sense, because Kryptonians are different that Earthlings, & Jor-El is dead, after all. But Clark heard what Kara & others said about how his father really cared about people, & he figured it out. It was great to see him & his father finally coming to an understanding!
Too bad Brainiac took Jor-El over just when he & Clark finally had a good relationship! What's going to happen now?
Very true. Kryptonians are protrayed as this very stoic race that displays there emotions in a very cool way while Earthlings are much more impatient and reactive.

Fallen One
11-16-2008, 10:06 PM
You know what part I just cannot stop rewatching? Well.. all of them but there is one part that just touches me.

The very last scene after Clark says, "I don't care how powerful it is. I'll take it on like I have everyone else". And Jor-El, in the most tender voice he's ever given on the show, says "I am here for you as well, my son.." Just the way he said it gave me chills. Then Clark follows it by saying "Thank you, father".

Best fortress conversation ever. EVER.

unfocused
11-17-2008, 03:13 AM
EVER

ClLaLeChFAN01
11-17-2008, 07:18 AM
One of the things that I like about Smallville, is that Clark hasnt completely trust or got along with Jor-el right away. Like Superman the movie where the first time he met Jor-el he trsuted him. Well I cant have my cake and eat it too. In Smallville Clark slowly trusted him and that is what makes this recented scene so much sweeter to watch to see him finally call him father! I like this portral of Clark and Jorel relationship better!

Bizarrolover
11-17-2008, 07:48 AM
I wonder if Braniac will let Clark know that he is now in control of the fortress or if he is going to pretend he's Jor-El to confuse him even more. Now I have doubts that the 'thank you, father' was said to Jor-el, because brainiac was already inside the fortress when Clark said it, so there is a chance that Jor-el was already under brainiac's control. Poor Clark, now that he thinks he can get close to his father, he's gone.

Welling_is_pretty
11-17-2008, 02:36 PM
While it was awesome (the "Father" thing...) I don't believe it was their very best scene ever. To me the very best Jor-El/Kal-El moment in Covenant.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. :p

NoSupeForYou
11-17-2008, 02:45 PM
I think Clark will notice that Brainiac redecorated.

KAL-EL_3
11-17-2008, 04:23 PM
BEST SCENE IN SMALLVILLE HISTORY NOT JUST JOR-EL/KAL-EL. but just my opinion.
and thank God Chloe doesnt know his secret anymore. now they can write her off the show.... ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaa

ClLaLeChFAN01
11-17-2008, 04:25 PM
I think Clark will notice that Brainiac redecorated.

Lol.....I should hope so!!! The BDA had been laying low this season!!

svtwamedfan05
11-17-2008, 10:01 PM
I loved their scenes. Its about frigging time for Clark to grow up

xrayvision
11-17-2008, 10:05 PM
I was waiting for Clark to address him as father at the end & he did. Man, what a scene that was.

MeLois
11-17-2008, 10:05 PM
Oh yeah, that was amazing! I loved it. Sent shivers through my spine.

SupaBoy
11-20-2008, 02:56 PM
Ok I loved when Clark called Jor-el his "Father" but it was a quick change from him hating him in my opinion. anyone else agree disagree?

alejandrita439
11-27-2008, 05:46 PM
i loved that scene :D

Eurynome
01-05-2009, 01:29 PM
I was happy Clark finally grew a spine and stood up to Jor-El. The new dynamic was more believable about how their relationship should be.

zorasuperman
01-06-2009, 11:47 AM
i was soo glad that clark and jor el finally had at least a respectful relationsihp, as compared to before when it was hate.

geminis
01-06-2009, 12:09 PM
I watched the rerun of Abyss last week and it still gave me chills and had me cheering hearing Clark say "Father"; the first time it was unexpected but even now, after having seen it several times and expecting it, that little gem of a moment still gets my heart racing.

RedGigant
01-07-2009, 06:53 AM
I see anyone agee with me but I think is pathetic Cark say "Father" to Joe-El because his AI reply consent his demand to commit and immoral action as delete the memory of a human beeing. It don't matter the motivation. I think one father is the oposed that Jor-El is in the episode. I think what Jonathan say of the Clark demand?
In my opinion don't mean Clark as grow, it meand it was a egocentric that take a decision to delete the experiences of a friend that she qualify as "the best of her life".

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
10-24-2010, 02:33 PM
I watched the rerun of Abyss last week and it still gave me chills and had me cheering hearing Clark say "Father"; the first time it was unexpected but even now, after having seen it several times and expecting it, that little gem of a moment still gets my heart racing.

I think that was the best Clark-A.I Jor-el moment of the show really. The end scene is just beyond amazing!

Reality-check
10-29-2010, 09:19 PM
Wow that guy 2 posts up sounds like a caveman newly introduced to speaking.......or typing I guess lol

KAL-EL_3
10-30-2010, 10:04 AM
I see anyone agee with me but I think is pathetic Cark say "Father" to Joe-El because his AI reply consent his demand to commit and immoral action as delete the memory of a human beeing. It don't matter the motivation. I think one father is the oposed that Jor-El is in the episode. I think what Jonathan say of the Clark demand?
In my opinion don't mean Clark as grow, it meand it was a egocentric that take a decision to delete the experiences of a friend that she qualify as "the best of her life".

WHAT?

speak english dude