"Villains" Countdown/LIVE Discussion Thread

[KSiteTV]

Count down to the episode airing and discuss tonight's episode LIVE here!

[jimmyolsenblues]

12 hours 34 mins.....miss my sylar and Arthur !!!!

[Ginx]

Hope it's good after being gone for two weeks!!!

[Yoshua]

wonder what stories they are going to focus on. If it is all about Arthur how would they work Sylar into it?


We can't have a week without Sylar....

[STFanatic]

More time travel :D

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Eight hours & twenty minutes to go!

[superhippie2000]

8 hours 58 minutes
seems like a good one and we get to see how more of the people got started so that will be cool.

[Mars Investigations]

Yay for more Elle! :D

[superhippie2000]

3 hours 53 minutes

[STFanatic]

My daughter has a school function tonight, I just hope it is over before starting time.

Three & a half hours to go!

[dimefan90]

3 hours 28 minutes

[oldblackmagick]

^^^Love your avi dimefan90...it makes me realize just how much i missed lex cause i knew right away it was him....he's got big bazooka'z :p

[Ginx]

2hrs 58min

[Alexander III]

1 hr 37 mins OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG Claire/Elle, hope I can see those babes 2gether again!!

[superhippie2000]

1 hours 24 minutes

[Merfish]

50 minutes!!!!!!!!

[oldblackmagick]

26mins...yeah!!

[Dezdmona]

Checking in.
25 mins....

[DoomsDay15]

What is this, I heard some higher-ups left the show? What does this mean?!! Is the show going to be cancelled?

[Ginx]

Some higher ups were asked to leave. I honestly don't know how this will pan out because Loeb was one of my fav's so I guess I'll just need to wait and see what happens.....

[superhippie2000]

3 minuites

[prairiefire]

Bout that time.

[superhippie2000]

its on yay :D

[Ginx]

wait..that eye with images over it reminded me of a movie.

Awww...cute little emo Milo......

[prairiefire]

Weird to see the Petrelli's all together.

[Ginx]

Arghhh.... what is Arthur's power now?

[prairiefire]

Ohhh dual fire powers.

[dru-zod2501]

Flint is her brother? bizarre

[Ginx]

whaaaa....... that dude with the flames is Claire's real uncle WTH!

[prairiefire]

Got owned by Thompson.
Wait sister? Are they related?

[DoomsDay15]

YES!!! Meredith finally shot a flaming hadouken!!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl:

[Ginx]

wait...what past is this anyway? Because Elle knows Sylar? Whhaaaa.......

[prairiefire]

I don't know what to think...

[Merfish]

Omg New Title!!!!!!!!

[superhippie2000]

wow claire mom was a villian and dang sylar felt bad about everything and was going to off himself :(

[Lexgirl33]

Good start! :D

[dru-zod2501]

Omg New Title!!!!!!!!
even better title!

[ChronX4]

Can someone explain what time's have been or what time is being covered? I am chronologically confused. (in other words I missed part of the intro)

[superhippie2000]

wait...what past is this anyway? Because Elle knows Sylar? Whhaaaa.......
ya im wondering about that too and how it connects to stuff in the future. like how come sylar wasnt taken care of back then and put in level 5.

[oldblackmagick]

was sad to see sylar trying to hang himself:(

[superhippie2000]

Can someone explain what time's have been or what time is being covered? I am chronologically confused. (in other words I missed part of the intro)
like the first part was 18 months ago this is a year ago.

[prairiefire]

Pie.

[Ginx]

LMAO!!! HRG's answer is Pie!!!!!

[dru-zod2501]

Can someone explain what time's have been or what time is being covered? I am chronologically confused. (in other words I missed part of the intro)
was this perhaps not more than 5 years before season 1? I can't remember when Sylar's origin epi happened in relation to s1

[superhippie2000]

pie lol

so wait sylar can transfer powers? so can he give them to other people?

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LMAO!!! HRG's answer is Pie!!!!!
clark dean and now sylar mmmmm pie lol

[Lexgirl33]

Aw poor Pete :lol: Papa doesn't like that hes a nurse

[Ginx]

pie lol

so wait sylar can transfer powers? so can he give them to other people?


what makes you think that? I musta missed something.

Awww....clearly Peter was not daddy's favorite.....

[Lexgirl33]

Oh wow so thats how she gets paralyzed :eek:

[superhippie2000]

wow finally found out the reason for the crash.

[Ginx]

wow, this episode is like a big flashback of what we missed from S1

[Lexgirl33]

Does Milo have a wig on? Or is his hair that long again :lol:

[superhippie2000]

what makes you think that? I musta missed something.

Awww....clearly Peter was not daddy's favorite.....
HRG says he can transfer powers.

[dru-zod2501]

oh man... bad break Frying Man

[superhippie2000]

Does Milo have a wig on? Or is his hair that long again :lol:
probably a wig.

[prairiefire]

Liking this episode so far.

[Merfish]

Oh how I have missed Peter's hair

[Ginx]

The Petrelli family is interesting to me. They could make a show just about them lol

[oldblackmagick]

i love seeing peter and nathan b4 all this other stuff. They are great together:D

[Lexgirl33]

I like his shorter hair :p

[Ginx]

Does Milo have a wig on? Or is his hair that long again :lol:

I was thinking that too - I think it's a good wig ;)

[DoomsDay15]

Wait did I hear Noah right? Sylar can transfer powers to other people? Or did he say another name?

[dru-zod2501]

pie lol

so wait sylar can transfer powers? so can he give them to other people?
It does seem like a natural development of his ability, kinda like Parkman can influence minds now instead of just read them. Wonder if Pete can do it too or is he just a mimic?

[Lexgirl33]

I was thinking that too - I think it's a good wig ;)

Thinking that too? Well I am not surprised :lol:

[Ginx]

HRG says he can transfer powers.

mmm... musta missed that line. I'll have to go back and watch his scene with Elle. Still - was that the present or something else. When did HRG stop working with Claude? And where's the Haitian...?

[superman07]

lookin good so far. Peter, Nathan interaction is awesome to see

[ChronX4]

HRG says he can transfer powers.


I imagine somehow if Sylar doesn't find this out on his own Hiro will attempt to explain it in some comedic manner.

[DoomsDay15]

I think he started working with Elle after Claude.

[Ginx]

Thinking that too? Well I am not surprised :lol:

:lol: I know right!

[DoomsDay15]

Wow, Hiro is going to be a fountain of knowledge after this lol.

[Lexgirl33]

Angela is acting human!

[prairiefire]

Wierd seeing Angela acting almost human.

[superhippie2000]

mmm... musta missed that line. I'll have to go back and watch his scene with Elle. Still - was that the present or something else. When did HRG stop working with Claude? And where's the Haitian...?
think he was between sidekicks or when claude was doing something else he needed a partner.

[Ginx]

Angela seems kinda innocent in this episode. This must be how she became harder and colder.

I wonder if they talk about having powers - they don't seem to mention it at all really between the two of them.....

[Lexgirl33]

Claude was filming Doctor Who :lol:

[dru-zod2501]

haha Colossus!

[Merfish]

Colossus!

[prairiefire]

Holy Hell! A Colossus like power, organic steel.

[Ginx]

finally, she uses the fire FOR SOMETHING instead of just lighting it in her hand!

[Randy G.]

It's good to see some missing pieces coming to the surface.

[oldblackmagick]

so we better find out the frickin companies name tonight or else:p

[prairiefire]

The pie!

[Lexgirl33]

It's good to see some missing pieces coming to the surface.

Yup Flashback episodes are great for that :D

[Ginx]

awww...Elle and Sylar.... that musta been their kid in the future ;) mmmmmm Sylar

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It's good to see some missing pieces coming to the surface.

Yeah, good fun and interesting :)

[Lexgirl33]

awww...Elle and Sylar.... that musta been their kid in the future ;) mmmmmm Sylar

:lol: haha

[jimmyolsenblues]

am i the only one who is screaming sylar is too old for veronica mars?

[prairiefire]

Thats where Claude is! He got Flint.

[Ginx]

wow...that was mean. They sent her there on purpose so she'd see her brother in jail.

[Merfish]

Bag and Tag Baby!

[Ginx]

am i the only one who is screaming sylar is too old for veronica mars?

he's not that much older than her. I think they're cut together. She's almost acting normal ahahhahaha

[Lexgirl33]

he's not that much older than her. I think they're cut together. She's almost acting normal ahahhahaha

Aw yeah they are cute.

[Merfish]

Empathy Takes Away The Hunger!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lexgirl33]

HRG is still the same :lol: I love it.

[Ginx]

HRG..... man I love you 'awww you like this guy. isn't that adorable' hahaha

[dru-zod2501]

cynical HRG's making this whole ep for me

[Lexgirl33]

:eek: oh snap

[Ginx]

wow....Arthur is evil!!!! Wonder what power he has now? It seems like Parkman's

[Merfish]

Santiago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[superhippie2000]

so HRG is the reason sylar becomes the killer he was?

[prairiefire]

Awesome.
Yawn at Santiago of the Heroes B Team.

[superhippie2000]

It's good to see some missing pieces coming to the surface.
ya :D

[oldblackmagick]

i like that claude captured knox...cool very cool.

[prairiefire]

Ya it seems Arthur is using an acquired psychic's powers.

[DoomsDay15]

OMG this show is riveting!!!!! :rotfl:

[superhippie2000]

he's not that much older than her. I think they're cut together. She's almost acting normal ahahhahaha
alternate smallville. him as clark and her as chloe :D

[Ginx]

OH lol.... I forgot that this was in Hiro's head....

[superhippie2000]

hahaha hiro just knocked out agian lol

[prairiefire]

Hiro is trying to wake up to save Flying Man.

[superhippie2000]

tricking u cause ur dumb lol
big sister instead of a brain hahaha

[Lexgirl33]

aw Knox is dumb :lol:

[Ginx]

lol poor guy 'god gave you a big sister instead of a brain' lol......

[dru-zod2501]

aw Knox is dumb :lol:
dont u mean flint?

[oldblackmagick]

this is claire's trainwreck scene from ep 1

[Lexgirl33]

whatever that guys name is :p

[Randy G.]

I know what turns Sylar completely bad and sets him off.
Elle offered him some of her pie, and he finds out she has double crossed him.

[Ginx]

aw Knox is dumb :lol:

That's not Knox thought right? I thought that the guy with anger strength was Knox?

[superhippie2000]

oh that must be the train claire saved those people from.

[prairiefire]

Crazy train fight. These epi reminds me of how much I miss Thompson.

[Ginx]

this is claire's trainwreck scene from ep 1

Oh right!

[Randy G.]

Linderman is still yammering about his damn pot pies. :lol:

[dru-zod2501]

this is claire's trainwreck scene from ep 1
really? I wouldn't have thought of that

[Ginx]

I know what turns Sylar completely bad and sets him off.
Elle offered him some of her pie, and he finds out she has double crossed him.

:lol: Sounds about right that the girl could turn a man bad ;)

awww Linderman has the hots for Angela ;)

[prairiefire]

Wow, Angela was essentially a puppet from Arthur. And Linderman fixed her. No wonder she is what she became. Madness.

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Goooood call about the train wreck.

[dru-zod2501]

a good Linderman? or a self-serving one?

[Lexgirl33]

and there goes Claire

[Merfish]

Holy Crap Train Fire!

[prairiefire]

Huh, I guess Thompson does have a heart. Funny that occurred with them not 100 feet from each other.

[Ginx]

odd that he let her go that easy! Maybe he felt bad about her loosing her daughter?

wow good call with that being the scene that Claire saved those people

[oldblackmagick]

i so called it:D

[ChronX4]

Anyone else hear the "kryptonite effect" sound when Claude let her go?

[Ginx]

a good Linderman? or a self-serving one?

a 'I love you Angela' one I'm thinking with his own agenda

[oldblackmagick]

everything is connected and thats why i love heroes...they think of almost everything:p

[superhippie2000]

everything is connected and thats why i love heroes...they think of almost everything:p
ya pretty cool that they fill in gaps and all that :D

[prairiefire]

The Elle set up.

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WHat ability is that?

[dru-zod2501]

OOOH the head cutting power!

[Lexgirl33]

Sylar is getttting hungry

[Ginx]

love that creepy music playing in the background for Sylar and Elle.... dark.

[prairiefire]

Haitian Woot!

[Ginx]

the old poison your husband routine.......

Angela has now gone darkside.

[Lexgirl33]

dun dun dun...

[Ginx]

wow....Sylar all jealous boyfriend on that dude......lol

[prairiefire]

Wow at Angela pwnign Arthur using the Haitian.

We have never seen Sylar use that guys powers that I can recall.

[Ginx]

wait no he already had the head cutting ability.... so what did he do with that dude's ability?

[superhippie2000]

did sylar ever use that gun pointing power before? i thought that was the head cutting thing but i guess not :\

[dru-zod2501]

wait, Sylar can do the head cutting thing on his own? then what was the point of that trevor guy?

[superman07]

No wonder Sylar doesn't trust people. Maybe this is why he trust Angela, she hasn't betray him yet.

[Randy G.]

What was that boy's powers? The ability to look good in eyeliner?
Ha ha ha ha!!!! No pie for you Gabriel! :lol:

[prairiefire]

Hahaha. It's not your mother's recipe.

[superhippie2000]

oh so thats how he "died"

[Lexgirl33]

Ohhhhhh so now we learn how Papa was on bed rest...

[Merfish]

The Haitian saves the day!

[Lexgirl33]

What was that boy's powers? The ability to look good in eyeliner?
Ha ha ha ha!!!! No pie for you Gabriel! :lol:

:lol: Nope people get mad when they don't get their pie!

[Ginx]

awww damnnnnnn Angela did not take long to protect her child! No wonder Arthur took her out as one of this first things to do.

[superhippie2000]

man only 10 minutes left :( this episode went pretty fast.

[prairiefire]

His power was either making glass explode, making objects unstable and burst apart, or a small invisible force projectile.

[Ginx]

did sylar ever use that gun pointing power before? i thought that was the head cutting thing but i guess not :\

I don't recall Sylar ever using that power. So maybe it was just because he was mad that he took the power and then was disgusted with himself afterwards?

[dru-zod2501]

His power was either making glass explode, making objects unstable and burst apart, or a small invisible force projectile.
ok, but when have we ever seen Sylar use that power before?

[oldblackmagick]

so i can see how elle is responsible for sylar just like he said in butterfly effect. she didn't want to do that to him and even tried to stop him. plus he let her go when he could have taken her power as well!

[superhippie2000]

I don't recall Sylar ever using that power. So maybe it was just because he was mad that he took the power and then was disgusted with himself afterwards?
maybe :\

[Lexgirl33]

What did he do with his mothers snow globe? I remember she collected them. Did he break one when before he killed her? I can't remember.

[DoomsDay15]

wait no he already had the head cutting ability.... so what did he do with that dude's ability?


Not sure, but his telekinesis is what he uses to cut off the top of the heads. He just uses his finger for the extra precision.

[prairiefire]

Ya he never used that power. In his 'mother's' apartment I think he accidentally hit his mom in the face with one using his TK.

[Lexgirl33]

Ah okay. Man that was a long time ago lol

[dru-zod2501]

No wonder Sylar doesn't trust people. Maybe this is why he trusts Angela, she hasn't betrayed him yet.
But did Elle really? she just baited him and he let his baser instincts take control. In a twisted way it's Sylar's fault for lacking control

[Merfish]

Tieing up loose ends! thats should be a song

[Ginx]

What did he do with his mothers snow globe? I remember she collected them. Did he break one when before he killed her? I can't remember.

I think that it hit his mom in the head by accident and then he lost focus and then it was the end of that.

Wow.... hahahaha Hello Mohinder! Everyone's tied in almost .... and they show how things were lined up :)

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wow... Arthur one-upped Angela again!

[Lexgirl33]

Oh man this is awesome. Papa is pissed now...thats why he went after Angela

[prairiefire]

Oh ho. SO that's how he got them all thinking he was dead.

[Ginx]

I miss the Petrelli brothers hanging out together.

Wow....Angela had a lot of bitterness towards Arthur. Crazy.

[Lexgirl33]

OMG his head! :eek:

[prairiefire]

Looks like Hiro is gonna rally the troops.
Well there goes another precog.

[dru-zod2501]

WTF?!!! oh NOOOOO

[prairiefire]

OmG OMG OMG It was Arthur and he took Hiro's powers!!

[Lexgirl33]

Holy crap! :eek: That was a good ending!!

Next week looks awesome as well!

[superhippie2000]

what what what?????

dude lost his head :\

dang cant wait for next week.

[Ginx]

WOW......Damn!!!! African Issac is dead and Arthur is pissed!!!!!!

This was a good episode........... next week's looks GOOD too!

[Merfish]

Then Who Was Urn?

[prairiefire]

It is up to the Haitian to stop Arthur.

[Lawliet]

Wow Epic Ending And Amazing Preview!!

[dru-zod2501]

Port Hiro! Port NOW!!!

[superman07]

great ending. Noo Hiroooo!

[DoomsDay15]

Ah crap now Arthur is going to have the time travel ability too?!!! THAT is just ridiculous. :confused:

[oldblackmagick]

great ep for real but it figures hiro learns everything and then gets mind tweeked

[JW_102792]

Ah crap now Arthur is going to have the time travel ability too?!!! THAT is just ridiculous. :confused:

He already did, from Peter. That's probably how he got there in the first place, he teleported. I'm kind of curious how he could have possibly known Hiro was dreaming about him, unless it was a similar effect to Molly vs Maury.

Great episode, it's nice to see that Angela truly loves her children, she's just kind of manipulative, and some would say evil, but personally I think she does what needs to be done.

Wasn't quite as great as previous episodes, and didn't explain as much as I hoped it would, but it was pretty good anyways.

[Dezdmona]

He already did, from Peter. That's probably how he got there in the first place, he teleported. I'm kind of curious how he could have possibly known Hiro was dreaming about him, unless it was a similar effect to Molly vs Maury.
Exactly what I was wondering.
He has shown the ability to know what Angela is thinking, but it seems a stretch for him to have an awareness of what other heroes are thinking around the globe. Wouldn't that be like too many voices talking at the same time? :lol: Is he able to somehow tease out thoughts that are focused on him/his family? :shrug: Still seems like a stretch.

[STFanatic]

Wow, just caught up with Heroes on the DVR, Great episode, they didn't just sew up the loose ends, they superglued it!!

[JW_102792]

Well, it's possible it works like Molly's ability. Maybe Hiro is connected to Arthur's mind somehow (Doubt it) and Arthur knows it, like Maury knew Molly was looking for him.

I'm sure it'll be explained next episode.

[Ginx]

Exactly what I was wondering.
He has shown the ability to know what Angela is thinking, but it seems a stretch for him to have an awareness of what other heroes are thinking around the globe. Wouldn't that be like too many voices talking at the same time? :lol: Is he able to somehow tease out thoughts that are focused on him/his family? :shrug: Still seems like a stretch.

I'm hoping they explain how Arthur 'knew' last episode. Maybe Arthur's power is something crazy but was kept in check and now he's just going to town with it. I wonder what his main motivation for all of this is - since obviously his sons mean nothing to him. Well, other than Sylar that is. Sylar seems to be Arthur's favorite. Maybe that's why Angela got to him first and tried to help him?

[STFanatic]

Peter had Molly's power, Arthur took it.

[Ginx]

Peter had Molly's power, Arthur took it.

That would make sense.

I wonder how many powers Arthur can maintain and why, if he could do that all along, he didn't and just kept his one power? I hope they explain that aspect more.

Unless he's just doing this now so he doesn't have to depend on anyone really but himself.....

[JW_102792]

Even with him taking Molly's power, he has no way of knowing Hiro was dreaming about him.

And his power seems to work like Peter's, he can have as many as possible. It's possible he never took any other abilities, other than telepathy. Or he has a bunch we don't know about.

[oldblackmagick]

I think the ring he has is what is letting him take abilities.

[4Clana]

I don't think Arthur was looking for Hiro initially. Arthur went there to kill Usutu, he wants to disable all precogs. But when he got to Usutu's location, he probably could hear Hiro's thoughts (dreaming) in the vicinity.

[Thargun]

What gets me, how can Afican Isaac stop a Time travelling, clock stopping Jap with a Shovel and still get his head chopped off by a guy who's been bed ridden for 18 months!!

Also Arthur would already have Hiro's power as he absorbed it from Peter.

We know from the spoilers that Hiro loses his memory, maybe Arthur has a problem taking Hiro's ability.

And we all know Peter is going to get all his powers back..it answers all the questions about future Peter having a scar when he already had the healing ability!!