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KaraClarkfan
11-07-2008, 07:40 AM
this may have been answered before, but i was wondering who do ya think give Clark the crystal that send him and lois to the phantom zone? will that crystal open up the fortress?

Radioflyer
11-07-2008, 08:13 AM
I believe the package was said to come from Martha but I think Chloe sent it but she doesn't remember because she was under Brainiac's control at the time she stole it from Tess and mailed it.

rconner
11-07-2008, 08:33 AM
this may have been answered before, but i was wondering who do ya think give Clark the crystal that send him and lois to the phantom zone? will that crystal open up the fortress?

I think it was Lana. If Brainiac put a part of himself in Chloe, what did he leave inside Lana?

oldblackmagick
11-07-2008, 09:14 AM
also if he is controlling her why would chloe then free clark and kara after "supposedly" sending both of them there...its not like she freed lois/faora so IMO it couldn't have been brainiac or chloe...im looking more towards the lana option or possibly a villain coming in ep 11???

Dor el
11-07-2008, 09:15 AM
It seems to me that Brainiac wanted to send Clark to the PZ to get him out of the way. Faora confirmed that, in SV at least, Doomsday is the "child" of Zod and since Brainiac serves Zod, it stands to reason that he would also serve Doomsday. Right now, Clark is an impediment to Doomsday, and while we know that Doomsday can kill Clark, Doomsday and Brainiac do not yet know that. Who is X? I am not certain, but I do feel certain that Brainiac is ultimately behind the reprogrammed crystal arriving on Clark's doorstep. Who else would know how to reprogram the crystal and who would also want Clark out of the way?

gameface25
11-07-2008, 09:17 AM
Chloiac sent it to Clark so that Clark would go to the PZ, knowing he would escape, and free Zods wife... catalyzing Doomsday in the process

and can we just start referring to the "crystal" as Eradicator? :)

oldblackmagick
11-07-2008, 09:18 AM
It seems to me that Brainiac wanted to send Clark to the PZ to get him out of the way. Faora confirmed that, in SV at least, Doomsday is the "child" of Zod and since Brainiac serves Zod, it stands to reason that he would also serve Doomsday. Right now, Clark is an impediment to Doomsday, and while we know that Doomsday can kill Clark, Doomsday and Brainiac do not yet know that. Who is X? I am not certain, but I do feel certain that Brainiac is ultimately behind the reprogrammed crystal arriving on Clark's doorstep. Who else would know how to reprogram the crystal and who would also want Clark out of the way?

but then if faora is trying to help doomsday and so is chloe/brainaic then why didn't she join forces with her. im just saying that chloe/brainiac is the obvious answer but this season has been anything BUT obvious...just like prey...we all thought it was doomsday and it wasn't...we never saw doomsday do anything in that ep (except the party crashing thing) but we never saw it happen. Lots of misdirection this year i think IMO

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Chloiac sent it to Clark so that Clark would go to the PZ, knowing he would escape, and free Zods wife... catalyzing Doomsday in the process

and can we just start referring to the "crystal" as Eradicator? :)

whats eradicator??? i might have missed something but don't remeber ever hearing about it b4...:confused:

bobsuncorp
11-07-2008, 09:35 AM
As I understand it (and this is based entirely on Kevin Smith's superman movie script but I trust that he knows his source material) The Eradicator is essentially an AI who controls the FOS and can take the form of a kick ass robot. In SV he would be the AI behind the voice and actions of Jor-El in the fortress, and this could actually explain the discrepancy between actions of nice, loving, protective daddy and the ruthless teacher who believes in the school of hard knocks. After all the name "Eradicator" doesn't exactly conjure up fluffy images, yet he is essentially Kal-El's guardian.

skylar
11-07-2008, 09:38 AM
I've been racking my brain to who sent Clark the Crystal. Who do you think stole and then sent it to Clark?

Dor el
11-07-2008, 09:54 AM
Chloiac sent it to Clark so that Clark would go to the PZ, knowing he would escape, and free Zods wife... catalyzing Doomsday in the process

and can we just start referring to the "crystal" as Eradicator? :)

I'm kind of thinking that this is why Brainiac sent Kara to the PZ; to help Faora escape and when Kara refused to risk freeing zoners by her own escape, Brainiac was forced to return Clark to the PZ thinking that Kara would release Clark form the PZ if not herself. And the plan seems to have worked perfectly except for the Kara and Clark ganging up on Faora. But, Faora did accomplish one mission; she told Davis who he is and demonstrated his ability to regenerate and improve with each regeneration. However, he did it, no doubt in my mind that Brainiac retrieved the crystal from Tess, altered it, and sent it to Clark. Regarding why Faora didn't enlist Chloiac's help, I'm not sure. Could be related to her feelings toward Davis, or it could be related to Brainiac's dormancy in Chloe. Maybe, Brainiac is not yet able to gain full control of Chloe and she is still able to keep him at bay at times.

superhippie2000
11-07-2008, 10:07 AM
I think it was Lana. If Brainiac put a part of himself in Chloe, what did he leave inside Lana?
he is only in chloe because of chlose healing power. she absorbed part of him into her. so lana wouldnt have retrieved any part of briniac i would think.



i think the crystal was either sent by chloe possesed by brainiac or who knows maybe doomsday sent it during his black outs knowing it could release zod and faorrora.

rocana
11-07-2008, 10:23 AM
FRom what I remember, Eradicator is an ancient AI system programmed by one of Superman's ancestors(Kem-El) to preserve Kryptonian culture at all costs. This causes him to try and forceably convert Earth into a new Krypton of sorts. He is a recurring "sometimes villian/sometimes hero" depending on the story... as he's able to asorb other people's personality that has given him some identity issues at times. He was also the reason no one was able to escape Krypton when it exploded since he was programmed to prevent anyone from leaving the planet and abandoning their culture.

I think he's basically a mixture of Brainiac and the Jor-El AI on Smallville, which makes me unsure if he could actually work on the show.

Red Arrow Kuczynski
11-07-2008, 10:30 AM
I think that maybe the Legion of Superheroes sent the crystal to Clark. After all, they will be showing up to help Clark pretty soon and with knowledge from the future they would know how important the crystal is.

SnowBird
11-07-2008, 10:38 AM
It has to be someone who wants to hurt Clark since he was sent to the PZ. The only one I can think of is Brainiac only Chloe doesn't remember doing it. The Chloe side of her wants to help Clark and the Brainiac side wants to control Clark. Poor Chloe:(

Dor el
11-07-2008, 11:37 AM
I think that maybe the Legion of Superheroes sent the crystal to Clark. After all, they will be showing up to help Clark pretty soon and with knowledge from the future they would know how important the crystal is.

Why would the LOS tell Tess "not yet"? Why would they want to send Clark to the PZ? Oh wait, maybe they needed Clark to get Kara out of the PZ.

Super EJ
11-07-2008, 11:43 AM
My opinion is that i think Lionel could have sent it and must still be alive. How? I have no clue. But Chloe couldn't have sent it to Clark because she was in control the whole time, even when using her brianiac powers when getting Clark and Kara back out of the Phantom Zone. Definitly not Lana becuase if you read the spoilers for the next epidoes invloving Lana, it says nothing about her being infected. Plus she was already infected once by brainiac. Chloe is the only one infected because she had her meteor powers that might have ivolved with brainiac's powers and probabaly DNA. So who knows we still have yet to find out.

KaraClarkfan
11-07-2008, 12:11 PM
I think it was Lana. If Brainiac put a part of himself in Chloe, what did he leave inside Lana?

wow..that's a good question. lana could also be infeacted by braniac

Super Maverick
11-07-2008, 02:47 PM
this may have been answered before, but i was wondering who do ya think give Clark the crystal that send him and lois to the phantom zone? will that crystal open up the fortress?

X

kaam
11-07-2008, 03:32 PM
I loved Chloe's reaction when she picked up the Crystal. There was something to that scene, maybe it was that she finally found the crystal or maybe she had some sort of a flashback (who knows...) Tess's entrance was interesting aswell. Did Tess come in from the back entrance? Lucky for Clark, Chloe got to the Crystal first.

baltazor
11-07-2008, 03:40 PM
Brainiac is the only logical assumption. Nobody else could set the crystal to do what it did. Not even Clark and he is supposed to have full control over it.

Dor el
11-08-2008, 10:16 AM
It's the "you're not yet ready" (or something like that) message to Tess from X that has me puzzled. That message would imply that at some point Tess will be ready and the crystal will be returned to her. No? Whoever took it, reprogrammed it, and sent it to Clark, must have some plans for Tess as well. Like mentioned above, unless Lex got some serious FOS mojo going on in his brain, he wouldn't know how to reprogram the thing. The LOS shouldn't want Tess to have it at all and wouldn't simply tell Tess to wait until she's ready. Unless Davis is doing jobs on the side during his blackouts, it shouldn't be him so it would appear that, currently, Brainiac is the only one with the ability, the power, the motive, and the direction to do it.

Estro-gen X
11-08-2008, 10:23 AM
I think that maybe the Legion of Superheroes sent the crystal to Clark. After all, they will be showing up to help Clark pretty soon and with knowledge from the future they would know how important the crystal is.

do UPS take deliveries through the time stream?
actually they used to do it the other way around. Kara would leave things buried so that brainaic 5 could find them in 1000 years way back in the comics

Clark-Lois
11-08-2008, 09:19 PM
Part of me think it was lex. Tess is is protege (sry if i mispelled that). If she wasn't ready to handle a situation, rather than sit by and see her make a mistake (and possibly mess things up for him) he would step in. however, how could he reprogram the crystal. another part thinks that it is Braniac. he could take over chloe's body for a short period. there was no return address. idk. i guess we will have to wait and see.