"The rooster only crows once here."

[Silent Kal]

Maybe I'm the only one--but does anyone else wish that the Chloe/Jimmy relationship would have been presented a little more...chastely? I'm not talking fundamentalist-hardcore restrictions, but while the fuzzy-handcuff/whipped-cream lines are maybe good for a gag, I would have liked to have seen Jimmy and Chloe's relationship be less sexual. Not in a preachy or condescending way, but just a positive portrayal of a couple deciding to not let things get hot and heavy before they get married.

I don't know. I'm old-fashioned. But since TPTB decided Clark should lose his virginity (grrr), I would have liked to have seen *someone* on the show say, "I've decided to make a different choice about sex," and let that be cool. Granted, this IS the CW, so maybe the network execs don't believe that people still live like that.

But, as one who does, I would have appreciated seeing values like mine reflected, even in something minor (in show terms).

Thoughts?

[KEGZilla]

In one of the previous seasons, they actually had Chloe mention that she wished she had waited before having sex. I remember her having a conversation with Lana and she mentioned that she should have waited.

[DontCha]

oh heck, its a funny line I dont mind it lol.

but I do feel they are being made out to be a bit of a joke.

[Billy Jor-El]

It was a funny line, but seemed a bit out of place for the upcoming wedding couple to be bunny banging constantly. I did also think the line about the rooster lent a wonderful opportunity for Clark to make some comment back [Mod Edit] :)

[susangail]

I respect your concern, Silent Kal. That Clark lost his virginity in S5 and has indulged himself only once since then (with the same woman, no less) is somewhat of a statement. In my mind, totally ignoring the sexual component of a young man would have made Clark "less human."

That said, the chimmy treatment is rather tacky. Given all the history with Clark, maybe it's meant to remind us that Chloe and Jimmy have a real relationship. A rather strange one ;)

[KEGZilla]

I did get a kick out of season 7 when Lana had powers and her and Clark were causing Earthquakes...I thought that was pretty funny.

[oldblackmagick]

well to be honest chloe lost her virginity to one mister james olsen and now they are getting married. They have lived together for quite a while as fiance's so what if they screw...at least it proves that chloe isn't completely brainiac like people were saying last week:p

[eas]

Maybe I'm the only one--but does anyone else wish that the Chloe/Jimmy relationship would have been presented a little more...chastely? I'm not talking fundamentalist-hardcore restrictions, but while the fuzzy-handcuff/whipped-cream lines are maybe good for a gag, I would have liked to have seen Jimmy and Chloe's relationship be less sexual. Not in a preachy or condescending way, but just a positive portrayal of a couple deciding to not let things get hot and heavy before they get married.

I don't know. I'm old-fashioned. But since TPTB decided Clark should lose his virginity (grrr), I would have liked to have seen *someone* on the show say, "I've decided to make a different choice about sex," and let that be cool. Granted, this IS the CW, so maybe the network execs don't believe that people still live like that.

But, as one who does, I would have appreciated seeing values like mine reflected, even in something minor (in show terms).

Thoughts?

Well, I'm not cool with sex before marriage (I waited and I fully expect my children to do the same).

BUT -- I think that one of the reasons it's such a running gag with Chimmy is because the writers are trying to "spice" up Chloe and Jimmy's image. That's sense I've gotten from S6... remember "Wither"? They have this convo - in the car - about waiting before getting hot and heavy and then two seconds later, Chloe pretty much JUMPS Jimmy. They sexual attraction aspect of their relationship has been on the forefront of their relationship since the beginning. It's actually one of the things I've come to associate with their pairing and it's one of the (only) things that makes even remotely plausible that these two would be so eager to get married.

[smallvillefreak24]

I don't have the energy to comment on the issue as a whole but for Chimmy being so sexual it seems extremely out of place for me cuz they seem so pure, it is funny but sometimes (like the handcuffs) it just goes over the top..

[Nuberman]

It's weird because the show started off for like the 1st 5 seasons with hardly ANY sexual content, and now we have Chloe and Jimmy going at it like rabbits with sexual jokes everywhere. Makes very little sense.

[Billy Jor-El]

Sure it makes sense....ratings.

[attitudejc]

I absolutely agree with you Silent Kal...everytime Lois mentions them and their sexual relationship, i just don't see the point for mentioning it...Just because you have sex all the time and all over each other doesn't mean that they love each other, so i would rather they mention something about chloe and jimmy other than sexual things. I wouldn't mind if it was every now and then, but they have mentioned it about 4 or so times this season....there is no reason for mentioning it imo :\

[umm]

Maybe I'm the only one--but does anyone else wish that the Chloe/Jimmy relationship would have been presented a little more...chastely? I'm not talking fundamentalist-hardcore restrictions, but while the fuzzy-handcuff/whipped-cream lines are maybe good for a gag, I would have liked to have seen Jimmy and Chloe's relationship be less sexual. Not in a preachy or condescending way, but just a positive portrayal of a couple deciding to not let things get hot and heavy before they get married.
I don't know. I'm old-fashioned. But since TPTB decided Clark should lose his virginity (grrr), I would have liked to have seen *someone* on the show say, "I've decided to make a different choice about sex," and let that be cool. Granted, this IS the CW, so maybe the network execs don't believe that people still live like that.
But, as one who does, I would have appreciated seeing values like mine reflected, even in something minor (in show terms).Thoughts?

Yes, you are probably one of the few on that one, but I think the most disturbing fact of it all, is that it's Chloe and Jimmy!!!! I mean frankly he is no match for her, intelectually, strengthwise or otherwise, and by otherwise I mean the thing we are only allowed to allude to due to the forum rules!;) Ecpecially now that she is Braniac influenced! The iamge alone is hard to believe! I can picture the holding hands, laughing together whilst watching a movie, kissing, hugging, all that is beliavable, but all the way through? The writters must be laughing them selves silly!

[individuall]

all I can say about the whole situation is...Poor Lois...

It didn't really bother me though..It was a funny line and Clark's "I didn't need to know that" was awesome...

[devilneedsaride]

While I can respect your views, I think that youth culture these days (outside of very religious households, which is a subject that TPTB have wisely refused to touch with a 10-foot pole) has all but done away with the concept of waiting. I'm in roughly the same age bracket as the folks on Smallville and I have met exactly one person in my lifetime who said she planned to wait, and she was twelve at the time. Given this, I think that it would feel unrealistic for the writers to put a character on the show who wanted to wait unless they gave that character a strong religious background, and that's opening a whole huge can of worms. As much as I loathe the Chimmy relationship, it would feel weird to me if they weren't all over each other.

Again, since I know this can be a touchy topic, I just want to reiterate that I mean no offense to anyone's religious or personal moral beliefs, this is just based on my personal experience.

[Atomic girl]

I have thought the whole Jimmy and Chloe thing is over the top. Even if they wanted to take their relationship "there", they could have had some respect for Lois, in HER apartment, no less. The old saying, "get a room" applies here.

I always pictured Superman having a moral code that no one would question. There's nothing wrong with making him like every other teenager, but I would have liked it better if they'd kept him a virgin. While plenty of people have no moral problem with his choices in this area, no one would have had a moral problem with him deciding to wait. It may be considered to be old-fashioned or strictly religious, but there are still plenty of people who think waiting is the right way.

[oldblackmagick]

well technically clark slept with lana like 7 eps b4 he asked her to marry him so it was almost not wrong:p almost

[Malicieux Toutou]

It's weird because the show started off for like the 1st 5 seasons with hardly ANY sexual content, and now we have Chloe and Jimmy going at it like rabbits with sexual jokes everywhere. Makes very little sense.

The show has had a fair share of sexual content throughout. I can think of multiple episodes from each season with sexual situations. It's just that the character's didn't start "going all the way" until they were all 18.

I can understand how this aspect of the show would frustrate Christians. But there are very few people out there who choose to wait until marriage to have sex. The ones who do almost always do so for religious reasons. The show has never portrayed Clark as being religious. To my memory, Smallville has never even alluded to Clark having a religion. I've never seen a Bible laying around in the Kent house, and I've never heard them mention going to church. So if he isn't religious, it would seem out of place for Clark to want to wait until marriage to have sex.

But he has only had sex with one person, a person he deeply loved. So while Clark's decisions don't precisely conform to Christian dogma, they do reinforce the traditional value that sex should be special; not frivolous or recreational.

[individuall]

^Well, actually Chloe "went all the way' when she was 16 I believe..
But Lana and Clark were over 18 when they 'did it'...

[susangail]

To my memory, Smallville has never even alluded to Clark having a religion. I've never seen a Bible laying around in the Kent house, and I've never heard them mention going to church. So if he isn't religious, it would seem out of place for Clark to want to wait until marriage to have sex.

Although I agree with your characterization of Clark's morality, Lara and Kara first visited the Kent home while the Kents were at church. So apparently, it happened offscreensville.

[jwm]

Chimmy are not having sex. No. No. No.

Just no.

Jimmy snores. That's all.

Whereas after a year of living with Lois has enabled Chloe to reflexively tune out incessantly annoying loud noises Lois isn't so lucky. It keeps her awake at night.

Lois implies Chimmy are having sex because she knows it riles Clark.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. It helps me sleep at night. :)

[Black Panda]

Maybe I'm the only one--but does anyone else wish that the Chloe/Jimmy relationship would have been presented a little more...chastely?
It could certainly be presented in better taste. But I don't think we are supposed to like it, and more over when Lois is crude it gives Clark to show his distaste for the idea in a way that leaves open the question of how much may be jealousy, distaste for her indiscretion or whatever.


they have mentioned it about 4 or so times this season....there is no reason for mentioning it imo :\
Well, the show has an established pattern with Clana, Lollie, and Chimmy of showing folks stop having sex just before breaking up. So this is supposed to show they are going strong, yet it's over strong. It's really in our face. I think it's supposed to make the viewer uncomfortable. Also, I expect it to stop noticably at some point...


Lois implies Chimmy are having sex because she knows it riles Clark.
Yep. That and maybe she wants to see how much it riles Clark. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[devilneedsaride]

Chimmy are not having sex. No. No. No.

Just no.

Jimmy snores. That's all.


Okay, that made me laugh pretty hard. That's pretty much exactly how I feel about them too.:rotfl:

[Malicieux Toutou]

I don't think Lois mentioned it to rile Clark... she was just explaining the move. Clark didn't seem at all jealous or disapproving. He reaction was like someone who was creeped out by the idea of a family member having sex.

[minerva73]

Well, I'm not cool with sex before marriage (I waited and I fully expect my children to do the same).

BUT -- I think that one of the reasons it's such a running gag with Chimmy is because the writers are trying to "spice" up Chloe and Jimmy's image. That's sense I've gotten from S6... remember "Wither"? They have this convo - in the car - about waiting before getting hot and heavy and then two seconds later, Chloe pretty much JUMPS Jimmy. They sexual attraction aspect of their relationship has been on the forefront of their relationship since the beginning. It's actually one of the things I've come to associate with their pairing and it's one of the (only) things that makes even remotely plausible that these two would be so eager to get married.

I agree, eas. The fact that they constantly place Chimmy in sexual situations isn't appealing to anyone even the characters on the show like Clark and Lois. Even when they're arguing in Sleeper, Jimmy just feels the need to kiss Chloe and that probably led to sex that night.

Also, your icon is awesome. :D


In one of the previous seasons, they actually had Chloe mention that she wished she had waited before having sex. I remember her having a conversation with Lana and she mentioned that she should have waited.

This is also another reason why Chimmy is waaaay worse than Clana. When Clark and Lana slept together, they both were unsure and they even had their regrets afterwards (Clark had his regrets that episode and Lana had her regrets in Vessel when she said she doesn't know how she loved him). When Chloe and Jimmy had sex, Chloe said she had "regrets", but I don't really believe her. She told this to Lana, but she also said that Jimmy didn't call her back after they had sex in pre-Season 2. If Jimmy called Chloe back, would Chloe still have those regrets? I don't think so.

[Alicia Chipy]

Well maybe they will exonerate themselves by keeping Clois chaste til the very end(causing peptic ulcers in many Cloisers).Superman should set a good example and be master of his domain.Sexual relationships should not be entered lightly at any age.

[Clark-Lois]

i actually don't mind the sexual situations. this is the way the world is heading and like some of the people have already said, the only people i know that wait till marriage are christians. Die-hard christians. I have a few christian friends and they have had sex already. I do agree that sex shouldn't be recreational. it should be passionate and intimate.

[DontCha]

It was a funny line, but seemed a bit out of place for the upcoming wedding couple to be bunny banging constantly. I did also think the line about the rooster lent a wonderful opportunity for Clark to make some comment back [Mod Edit] :)


OMG me being a British person that comment...well

LMAO:rotfl::rotfl:

[Black Panda]

i actually don't mind the sexual situations. this is the way the world is heading.
Chimmy is a long term committed relationship, much as we might wish otherwise. Most adults have sex with their long term partners. Some choose not to, and that's there perogative, and had they portayed Clark as that old fashioned like they did in L&C I wouldn't have had an issue with it. He's supposed to be the boyscout, the defender of old fashioned morality. However I expect Chloe to be a bit more worldly. I expect her to be more like Lois in L&C who had slept with other people before she married Clark. What's screwed up isn't that a couple is having sex, or that Superman characters don't have sex. It's that the couple in question is a lousy couple.