Davis'/Doomsday's "immunizations"

[xrayvision]

My favorite thing that happened in this episode was Davis getting "immunized" by his mother. I loved how they pointed out that Doomsday becomes the dangerous killing machine by dying, and then coming back to life & being immune to all things that previously killed him. I wonder if future episodes will have Davis killing himself in all sorts of ways to prep himself & make himself stronger.

I just wish he was in Doomsday form already.

[kal-el_Girl]

me too! I'm loving so much where davis/doomsday is going... great villain

[susangail]

Very cool. I was originally very leery of the live-action Doomsday treatment in SV, but they're getting me interested.

[unfocused]

My favorite thing that happened in this episode was Davis getting "immunized" by his mother.

I completely agree with you. It was a truly great moment. And I would love to see an episode where Davis kills himself over and over, GREAT idea, xrayvision. This Doomsday variation seems to be a really great one. He's been thought out, and given a past, and he has charisma as a human.

This Doomsday is incredible for the simple fact that he is the rope in the tug-o-war between good and evil. I'm really liking Davis, so I know I'm going to be edge-of-my-seat when the time comes for Doomsday. And like you said in another post, I, to, want to see Doomsday in his monster form right now. I was actually hoping he would partly turn into Doomsday when he came back to life in this episode. But it didn't happen, which I guess could be a good thing. Because now I want more, and great story telling leaves us wanting more.

[Spirit Detective]

Yeah, I like how the dagger broke. I like the Bloomsday backstory in this episode. Does anyone think that Brainiac is responsible for Bloomsday on Earth. He was with Clark's ship in Apocalypse.

[xrayvision]

I was expecting the dagger to break in that scene & had a big smile on my face when it did.

By the way, who was with Clark's ship in Apocalypse? Brainiac? I'm trying to see if that makes sense.

What did Faora say about Davis? Was his sample of cells (the experiment that became Davis) sent to Earth in a ship or did they place him on Earth back when the portals were still open? Obviously Zod's master plan was to have Davis go to Earth. But if Bloomsday is anything like Doomsday, he would have killed Zod if Zod ever showed up later on in a plan to repopulate Earth with Faora.

[yosemiteangel]

It sounded like they somehow got Doomsday's genes on Kal-el's ship, though how the heck they did that when they would have already been in the PZ is beyond me.

[j-kent]

sounded like they stuck his genetic material on the ship with Kal-EL...the question is...how did his body manifest and what was responsible for that?

[Kalista]

I enjoyed that scene too and I think SW gave a convincing portrayal of someone being stabbed through the gut. When the acting is off in scenes like this, it just looks comical.

[yosemiteangel]

sounded like they stuck his genetic material on the ship with Kal-EL...the question is...how did his body manifest and what was responsible for that?

ITA. I want to know that too. I want to see more of his back story. And soon. Please. :p

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I enjoyed that scene too and I SW gave a convincing portrayal of someone being stabbed through the gut. When the acting is off in scenes like this, it just looks comical.

I agree with you, Kalista. They did a good job with the scene, and Davis' reaction afterward, stabbing himself.

[kaam]

This was a good twist in the story. Although I am unsure as to how Clark will be able to defeat Doomsday. Wouldn't everyone see him taking on such a monster? He might have to get his "blur" costume.

[ballofsteel]

My favorite thing that happened in this episode was Davis getting "immunized" by his mother. I loved how they pointed out that Doomsday becomes the dangerous killing machine by dying, and then coming back to life & being immune to all things that previously killed him. I wonder if future episodes will have Davis killing himself in all sorts of ways to prep himself & make himself stronger.

I just wish he was in Doomsday form already.

I like this part of the episode too but I don't think he 'died'. I think his mother was only able to stab him because of her Kryptonian strength. You could see from the episode before that he was invunrable already like having the roof fall on him and never got a scratch.

[<<S>>]

My favorite thing that happened in this episode was Davis getting "immunized" by his mother. I loved how they pointed out that Doomsday becomes the dangerous killing machine by dying, and then coming back to life & being immune to all things that previously killed him. I wonder if future episodes will have Davis killing himself in all sorts of ways to prep himself & make himself stronger.

I just wish he was in Doomsday form already.

I thought in the comics he was already immune from childhook from having to fend for himself in Kryton fighting off the most horrible creatures. That time in his life makes him so much stronger because he keeps dying and them coming back and eventually becomes perfected that way.

I am interested to see how they go about the story line for him as a human or in a human body.

[dijonaise]

besides getting rid of lana, the whole doomsday thing they're doing is actually the best thing in the season so far. it's actually more interesting than the original doomsday story. i just wonder if...since this may actually be the last season...the writers will actually follow through with some sort of death/return of superman plot considering they're introducing doomsday. or...perhaps they'll just drag it out until they have some sort of battle in which doomsday is presumably dead or disappears or something.

[boocherhix]

I loved it and was pleasantly surprised with the Doomsday bloodline arc. I was thinking "Bloodline" was only referring to the House of El going into the episode. I love how the writers are crafting Doomsday. Can't wait for more!!

[Bizarrolover]

If Doomy's genes were in Clark's ship, it means that he was incubated in the Kent's storm cellar!

This is my crazy theory of how it happened, please don't take it too seriously, just having some fun with this.

Doomy is some kind of genetic matter that came glued to the ship and remained in suspended animation in the Kent's storm cellar for several years.
Martha comes in when the tornado hits (Tempest) and Nixon activates the ship, waking up Doomy
Doomy says 'my surrogate mother is here!' and gets into Martha's body, where it evolves from genetic matter to embryo.
Clark destroys the ship and martha miscarries Dommy
Embryo Doomy rolls out of the hospital and grows very, very fast, like the exploding baby of season 4, only he doesn't explode and goes from foster home to foster home until he becomes a paramedic.

So, basically, Doomsday is Clark's lost brother.

[minerva73]

It sounded like they somehow got Doomsday's genes on Kal-el's ship, though how the heck they did that when they would have already been in the PZ is beyond me.

I don't think that they became phantoms when Clark's ship was sent to Earth. Clark's ship was sent to Earth during the middle of the war on Krypton (at least at a point where Krypton's soldiers were losing) and Zod was still in power at the time. So maybe Faora knew that Jor-El and Lara planned on sending their son to Earth and snuck Davis onto his ship before it was sent off as the planet exploded.

The bigger problem for me is how Davis grew on Earth. Did Davis start off as just some random cells in a petri dish and grow into a child in a matter of months? Or did Faora and Zod place another baby (little Davis) into Clark's ship and Davis escaped after Clark arrived in Pilot?


I was expecting the dagger to break in that scene & had a big smile on my face when it did.

By the way, who was with Clark's ship in Apocalypse? Brainiac? I'm trying to see if that makes sense.

My guess on what would happen with the knife was totally off. :lol: I expected Davis' skin to heal back up like Claire from Heroes or Logan from X-Men. The breaking dagger was an awesome effect, though.

In Apocalypse, Brainiac was basically the only one with Clark's ship. When we first saw Krypton, Brainiac was walking from Clark's ship holding baby Clark and he was about to place him on the glowing altar (to kill him).

[One-Winged-Angel]

love the doomsday evolution going on

[xrayvision]

It sounded like they somehow got Doomsday's genes on Kal-el's ship, though how the heck they did that when they would have already been in the PZ is beyond me.

Maybe when Brainiac went back in Apocalypse, he placed the genetic material in the ship so he would send it (Davis) to Earth instead of Clark (who he planned to kill on Krypton). So the events of Apocalypse would have changed things.

I believe this is what Lionel's warnings to Clark were about. I think the Jor-El AI within Lionel told him what Brainiac was going to do.

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I like this part of the episode too but I don't think he 'died'. I think his mother was only able to stab him because of her Kryptonian strength. You could see from the episode before that he was invunrable already like having the roof fall on him and never got a scratch.

No, he did die. That's what (the actual) Doomsday is. Doomsday is a creature who was killed so many times & in so many ways that every time he was re-cloned, he is invulnerable to what previously killed him. In the comics, he was cloned so many times that the final version (the actual Doomsday) eventually started regenerating himself after dying.

But you're right that it probably took super strength to penetrate his skin. But now, not even a superstrength impaling will phase him. He is stronger because he died. And every time he dies, he will get stronger the next time. That's why he's the ultimate villian.

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I thought in the comics he was already immune from childhook from having to fend for himself in Kryton fighting off the most horrible creatures. That time in his life makes him so much stronger because he keeps dying and them coming back and eventually becomes perfected that way.

I am interested to see how they go about the story line for him as a human or in a human body.

Yeah, Doomsday in the comics was much stronger at the same age as Davis in Smallville. He was impaled at a much younger age in the comics (plus, like you said, he was killed in so many other ways).

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If Doomy's genes were in Clark's ship, it means that he was incubated in the Kent's storm cellar!

This is my crazy theory of how it happened, please don't take it too seriously, just having some fun with this.

Doomy is some kind of genetic matter that came glued to the ship and remained in suspended animation in the Kent's storm cellar for several years.
Martha comes in when the tornado hits (Tempest) and Nixon activates the ship, waking up Doomy
Doomy says 'my surrogate mother is here!' and gets into Martha's body, where it evolves from genetic matter to embryo.
Clark destroys the ship and martha miscarries Dommy
Embryo Doomy rolls out of the hospital and grows very, very fast, like the exploding baby of season 4, only he doesn't explode and goes from foster home to foster home until he becomes a paramedic.

So, basically, Doomsday is Clark's lost brother.

I think Doomsday only appeared after the original Smallville timeline was skewed (see Back to the Future Part II for what I mean). We know that all history as we knew it throughout the series was changed after Brainiac & Kara went to Krypton at the end of Veritas. My theory is that Brainiac's plan was to kill Kal-El on Krypton and instead place Davis' genetic matter in Clark's ship to be sent to Earth. When his plan backfired, the ship in the skewed timeline brought not only Clark, but Davis also to Earth.

So what I'm saying is that prior to Brainiac going back to Krypton (let's call it Smallville timeline #1), Davis did not exist on Earth & rather vaporized on Krypton before he was able to become Doomsday. But thanks to the events of Apocalypse & other offscreen stuff that happened on Krypton (between Veritas & Apocalypse when Kara was stuck on it with Brainiac), a new timeline (one I call Smallville timeline #2) was formed where the history was retconned (similar to the Crisis of Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, etc of the comics).

If my theory is correct, then someone could have been waiting on Earth for Davis' arrival or perhaps just found him when the genetic material that made up Davis materialized into the humanoid that is Davis.

What would be great is if an episode like Lineage would be done where they would show Jonathan & Martha finding Clark & leaving, only for another child to be found by a cop or someone else.

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I don't think that they became phantoms when Clark's ship was sent to Earth. Clark's ship was sent to Earth during the middle of the war on Krypton (at least at a point where Krypton's soldiers were losing) and Zod was still in power at the time. So maybe Faora knew that Jor-El and Lara planned on sending their son to Earth and snuck Davis onto his ship before it was sent off as the planet exploded.

It actually has been established that Clark was sent on the last day of Krypton (the events of Apocalypse when the planet explodes just after Clark's ship leaves the surface). So they had to have been disembodied & placed into the PZ by then. But I do have a theory that explains this.


The bigger problem for me is how Davis grew on Earth. Did Davis start off as just some random cells in a petri dish and grow into a child in a matter of months? Or did Faora and Zod place another baby (little Davis) into Clark's ship and Davis escaped after Clark arrived in Pilot?

Check out my theory. I think he could have been sent as cells (that's what I understood was meant by genetic matter) that grew by themself during the journey to Earth. The harsh space environment could have already started making Davis stronger.

My guess on what would happen with the knife was totally off. :lol: I expected Davis' skin to heal back up like Claire from Heroes or Logan from X-Men. The breaking dagger was an awesome effect, though.

In Apocalypse, Brainiac was basically the only one with Clark's ship. When we first saw Krypton, Brainiac was walking from Clark's ship holding baby Clark and he was about to place him on the glowing altar (to kill him).[/QUOTE]

[Cychotec]

If Doomy's genes were in Clark's ship, it means that he was incubated in the Kent's storm cellar!

This is my crazy theory of how it happened, please don't take it too seriously, just having some fun with this.

Doomy is some kind of genetic matter that came glued to the ship and remained in suspended animation in the Kent's storm cellar for several years.
Martha comes in when the tornado hits (Tempest) and Nixon activates the ship, waking up Doomy
Doomy says 'my surrogate mother is here!' and gets into Martha's body, where it evolves from genetic matter to embryo.
Clark destroys the ship and martha miscarries Dommy
Embryo Doomy rolls out of the hospital and grows very, very fast, like the exploding baby of season 4, only he doesn't explode and goes from foster home to foster home until he becomes a paramedic.

So, basically, Doomsday is Clark's lost brother.


That'd be an interesting way of incorporating Davis in to earlier seasons.

But we already know that Davis is only missing the first 3 years of his life, like the 3 year before Meteor shower #1. In your Theory he'd only have records of foster home hopping for the last 5, 6 years... which would be weird considering he's clearly 23/24 years old in appearance.

I think the best Homage to the Kents lost child is the alternate Clark Kent in that "its a wonderful life" type episode, could look up the actuall name, but meh.

I kinda liked the idea a bit at first glance tho

[ChronX4]

) I think Doomsday only appeared after the original Smallville timeline was skewed (see Back to the Future Part II for what I mean). We know that all history as we knew it throughout the series was changed after Brainiac & Kara went to Krypton at the end of Veritas. My theory is that Brainiac's plan was to kill Kal-El on Krypton and instead place Davis' genetic matter in Clark's ship to be sent to Earth. When his plan backfired, the ship in the skewed timeline brought not only Clark, but Davis also to Earth.

So what I'm saying is that prior to Brainiac going back to Krypton (let's call it Smallville timeline #1), Davis did not exist on Earth & rather vaporized on Krypton before he was able to become Doomsday. But thanks to the events of Apocalypse & other offscreen stuff that happened on Krypton (between Veritas & Apocalypse when Kara was stuck on it with Brainiac), a new timeline (one I call Smallville timeline #2) was formed where the history was retconned (similar to the Crisis of Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, etc of the comics).

Well Braniac is an advanced computer, so his planing should also include a backup plan, maybe that's it, and that's also why he told Clark his end was coming in Artic (not meaning the end of the episode as we were all lead to believe).