Chloe/Brainiac

[Chlollie]

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[myankskent]

Alright, I don't understand how Chloe is Brainiac after watching this episode. If she was Brainiac, he had a golden opportunity to do whatever he wanted with Clark, since he was locked away in the phantom zone and yet, he gets him out of there? He also could've joined forces with Faora, but didn't. This definitely seems like Chloe to me. If anything, I think that Chloe is having trouble controlling these powers and perhaps her decision to want to use them is corrupting her, but I can't understand how Brainiac is influencing any of her decisions. Again, why would Brainiac not want Clark to stay locked up in the phantom zone?

[doomsdaytitan]

brainiac probably still needs clark alive for something. like in solitude and the season 5 finale w/e it was called. he also seems like he's more of a humiliate first kill later kinda guy. and as for chloe goes i think brainiac isnt directly controlling her but that the infection he gave her is corrupting her thoughts and actions.

[oldblackmagick]

^^^me either...i think chloe is responsible for the murder since it wasn't brought up that he lived and was last seen on a code blue moment...i think chloe is in too deep just like oliver said.

[LimeArrow]

Brainiac is gone.

[ginnyfan]

I'm thinking Chloe was responsible for the murder too... but I still think her brainiac powers may be corrupting her... even if they don't have a mind of their own.

That was SO creepy when she went all white eyed.

You know... after she started crashing the Isis computers... maybe it was only a matter of time before her own brain crashed. I'm excited to see what happens next week and beyond.

[attitudejc]

gone...? how could he be gone? hes barely even touched the surface yet with the things he is capable of...

[myankskent]

brainiac probably still needs clark alive for something.


Well, the crystal was activated and he had a golden opportunity to release all of the prisoners locked away in the phantom zone, which is what Brainiac has always wanted. Instead, Clark and Kara get released. I don't see what Brainiac would need Clark for.

[abbaspice1]

It was Chloe USING Brainaic's powers.

My theory: the more she uses them, the stronger he will start to become.

As I said before, she is playing iwth a ticking time bomb.

[myankskent]

It was Chloe USING Brainaic's powers.

My theory: the more she uses them, the stronger he will start to become.

As I said before, she is playing iwth a ticking time bomb.

Agreed. To me, Chloe's decision to use the powers are going to bring nothing but trouble in the not so distant future.

[Ayanne]

Chloe & Brainiac are fighting for control & obviously shifting personality/actions. Chloe doesn't even realize it, she thinks it's just using "abilities".. And next week will prove those facts.

[susangail]

^^^ Agreed.

[xrayvision]

I think Brainiac is taking control of Chloe without her knowledge and doing things. I'm even more convinced now than before.

1. We know that the crystal was left on Clark's doorstep in a box by a mysterious person.

2. The crystal was modified to suck Clark into the Phantom Zone. Nobody else on Earth would know how to do that.

3. Brainiac was once tied with Zod. Heck, he's been trying to get back Zod every time. Even last time, he tried to make the events of Apocalypse come true by killing Clark as a baby, tricking Kara, and then getting her to free Zod by altering the future/present. What happened this time---the phantom of Zod's wife was found.

4. Even with Clark escaping the Phantom Zone, he now has doubts about the crystal and isn't trusting it. Mind games like this are straight up Brainiac's alley.

5. Chloe is getting closer to Davis. Brainiac is on Zod's side. Davis is Zod's son. Therefore, Brainiac could be corrupting or tempting Chloe to get closer to Davis so he could use her to further set the chain of events that will unleash Doomsday.

6. Who else would have had the crystal & given it away? Tess wouldn't. Ollie didn't want to even see the crystal. Lex is still MIA. The only enemy that would know how to screw with the crystal to send Clark to the Phantom Zone is Brainiac/Chloeiac. No human villian would give up/leave the crystal in a box for Clark to find. Lex does not know about the Phantom Zone or how to send Clark there.

Therefore, I have no doubt that Brainiac is using Chloe to hurt Clark. It's not a surprise how Kara was in this episode---Kara, who was the last person Brainiac used.

The thing is, Chloe still has control over her body, but she's obviously losing it. She helped Clark & Kara get back (even though I think they could have escaped themselves--which I was hoping since I wanted to see a feat of superheroic strength). Brainiac would not have helped them if he solely was controlling her body. Ollie's point to Clark is another sign of Chloeiac being X.

[roccanater]

That could very well be the case. I'm still not convinced yet though.

[unex||den||adel]

u know, she could be..

she resist to brainiac, coz this is proove by he didnt cooporate with faora when she choke her. if she's brainiac, she would LOVE to hand the son of zod to the queen...

like she has double personality. we see it when she's under control of moira, it could happen.... she must have completely no idea what she did with the cristal, and maybe other bad things she might and already did while she's under control of brainiac.

part of me would LOVE to blive chloiac is the X, but its myb too cooool to happen

[SteveS]

Since I didn't see any character pronounced dead last week, I don't see Chloiac as a murderess. Brainiac does exist in one form or another in her head and is making it's presence felt, but it is a very subtle intelligence.

[susangail]

I'm convinced that we're watching Brainiac's takeover one stage at a time.

[hogwartsmallville]

I still think it's Lana, I don't really know why, well maybe I do, it's because "Bride"'s official description, also because of theories I've been hearing, but also because it will be a very good way to bring her back! I miss her so much! Even tho, in Instinct it was very clear that since Chloe found out by Clark that Tess had the crystal, she inmediatly went to take Tess' job and was very surprised to found out that it was missing.

Well that's my thought...

[galatians221]

If I'm right this would be the first time in about three seasons I think. There's two things you can count on in each episode: Chloe's cleavage and the term "Trust me". I've begun counting the number of trust me's. The writers must have a bet or a contest. Perhaps tonight they didn't want Chloe saving CK with cleavage. Maybe also that's why she had so much trouble getting Oliver to help her.

[old guy]

I still think it's Lana, I don't really know why, well maybe I do, it's because "Bride"'s official description, also because of theories I've been hearing, but also because it will be a very good way to bring her back! I miss her so much! Even tho, in Instinct it was very clear that since Chloe found out by Clark that Tess had the crystal, she inmediatly went to take Tess' job and was very surprised to found out that it was missing.

Well that's my thought...

Interesting. I never even considered Lana (see how easily I forgot about her already?):D

But it does seem plausible that Mrs. Luthor could very well be behind it.

[Who]

If I'm right this would be the first time in about three seasons I think. There's two things you can count on in each episode: Chloe's cleavage and the term "Trust me". I've begun counting the number of trust me's. The writers must have a bet or a contest. Perhaps tonight they didn't want Chloe saving CK with cleavage. Maybe also that's why she had so much trouble getting Oliver to help her.

I'm sure when Brainaic takes over we'll be seeing plenty of chloevage and skin tight outfits. Muhahahahahaha....

[ratc2188]

The reason why I think that Brainiac wanted to help Clark out of the phantom zone is because he is the only thing that can/will be able to step up to Davis/Doomsday especially now that he has somewhat realized what his body can do. By having Clark back, Davis can now have the opportunity to become what he is destined to be which is the Doomsday we all know.

I also think that it was Brainiac that used Chloe to steal the crystal and set it up as a trap for Clark. And this might be a long stretch, but I also think that Brainiac had anticipated Faora getting out and seaching for Davis to send him down his path...but thats just speculation.

[SupesComicFan]

I found it very interesting.

She obviously purposely channeled Brainiac in this epi. That, to me, proves that she was actually herself in Identity. Contrast to Lois, who, according to Faora was "not there" while possessed.

This was actually good for me to see. I think Chloe knew exactly what she was doing in Identity, and this episode confirmed it. She may, however, be like Lana in Wrath and "corrupted" by Brainiac, but the decisions seem to be, in the end, all hers. Thoughts?

[Spirit Detective]

I like the whole nose bleeding when she tapped into her Brainiac powers. She really parallels Sam Winchester from Supernatural.

[Be With You]

Alright, I don't understand how Chloe is Brainiac after watching this episode. If she was Brainiac, he had a golden opportunity to do whatever he wanted with Clark, since he was locked away in the phantom zone and yet, he gets him out of there? He also could've joined forces with Faora, but didn't. This definitely seems like Chloe to me. If anything, I think that Chloe is having trouble controlling these powers and perhaps her decision to want to use them is corrupting her, but I can't understand how Brainiac is influencing any of her decisions. Again, why would Brainiac not want Clark to stay locked up in the phantom zone?

Right now, I think Chloe is still pretty strong. Chloe protecting Clark is like second nature to her, like survival instinct. When you're under a trance or whatever you still have your survival instincts, its why you can't be hypnotised to kill yourself. I think it was Chloniac.

[j-kent]

Everything that happen hasn't spelled out brainiac just yet. Brainiac's abilities or powers are corrupting Chloe is what were getting so far. Although you never know, I don't think you can safely say that it IS brainiac pulling the strings here. Ppl are making it sound like he is dormant within Chloe and comes out periodically to do the dirty work.

[Spirit Detective]

Is it safe to say that Chloe/Brainiac is X?

[xrayvision]

Is it safe to say that Chloe/Brainiac is X?

That's what I said. I just wish my thread about Chloeiac being X wouldn't have gotten merged with threads talking about Chloevage/Chloe in general since I was interested in what viewers thought about that specific aspect of Chloe/Brainiac. I don't feel like going through all those other posts just to see ones related to Chloeiac being X.

[I_am_LEX]

Brainiac is rejuvinating each time she uses an ability... slowly taking over. that seems the most likely.

[kaam]

I think Brainiac is taking control of Chloe without her knowledge and doing things. I'm even more convinced now than before.

1. We know that the crystal was left on Clark's doorstep in a box by a mysterious person.

2. The crystal was modified to suck Clark into the Phantom Zone. Nobody else on Earth would know how to do that.

3. Brainiac was once tied with Zod. Heck, he's been trying to get back Zod every time. Even last time, he tried to make the events of Apocalypse come true by killing Clark as a baby, tricking Kara, and then getting her to free Zod by altering the future/present. What happened this time---the phantom of Zod's wife was found.

4. Even with Clark escaping the Phantom Zone, he now has doubts about the crystal and isn't trusting it. Mind games like this are straight up Brainiac's alley.

5. Chloe is getting closer to Davis. Brainiac is on Zod's side. Davis is Zod's son. Therefore, Brainiac could be corrupting or tempting Chloe to get closer to Davis so he could use her to further set the chain of events that will unleash Doomsday.

6. Who else would have had the crystal & given it away? Tess wouldn't. Ollie didn't want to even see the crystal. Lex is still MIA. The only enemy that would know how to screw with the crystal to send Clark to the Phantom Zone is Brainiac/Chloeiac. No human villian would give up/leave the crystal in a box for Clark to find. Lex does not know about the Phantom Zone or how to send Clark there.

Therefore, I have no doubt that Brainiac is using Chloe to hurt Clark. It's not a surprise how Kara was in this episode---Kara, who was the last person Brainiac used.

The thing is, Chloe still has control over her body, but she's obviously losing it. She helped Clark & Kara get back (even though I think they could have escaped themselves--which I was hoping since I wanted to see a feat of superheroic strength). Brainiac would not have helped them if he solely was controlling her body. Ollie's point to Clark is another sign of Chloeiac being X.

Nice connections. I agree, and this episode clear several doubts about Chloe being controlled.

[KEGZilla]

I'm excited about the future Chloe storylines from here on out. Personally before the end of the season I think that Clark and Chloe will have a huge confrontation or something due to Brainiac taking affecting Chloe will make Clark pursue his destiny.

[Fallen One]

This episode proved that its Chloe who is ultimately in control.

She used Brainiac's abilities to open that PZ portal. It was not Brainiac that took control of her, it was she that called on its power. And Ollie rightfully saw that she's nutso and told Clark to do something about it. She obviously has some experience using them too, just like last week when she knowingly used them to get murder Sabastian.

She wants that power. Thats been clear since Toxic. She'll fight Clark tooth and nail to keep those abilities because she likes the power and influence it gives her. And that power is currupting her. Hopefully Clark finds out about her pyschotic Brainiac adventures next week.

If she won't help herself then she gives him no choice but to do it himself.

[myankskent]

This episode proved that its Chloe who is ultimately in control.

She used Brainiac's abilities to open that PZ portal. It was not Brainiac that took control of her, it was she that called on its power.


Exactly. Think about this for a second. Brainiac would kill a random meteor freak that could expose Clark but he wouldn't make sure that Clark remained in the phantom zone locked away, while he had the crystal to rebuild the FOS? Doesn't make much sense. Then he also failed to team up with Faora as well, something that Brainiac would most certainly do. Also, if Brainiac does have a plan for Davis, I don't see why Clark would need to factor into that plan. Isn't the whole point to get rid of Clark and create Krypton on Earth? It seems to me that with Doomsday murdering everyone on Earth and Brainiac releasing all of the prisoners from the phantom zone, it would be game, set and match for Mr. Brainiac. That's why I don't believe that Brainiac is controlling Chloe. There's just too much damage that he could've caused in "Bloodline" for me to believe that.




And Ollie rightfully saw that she's nutso and told Clark to do something about it. She obviously has some experience using them too, just like last week when she knowingly used them to get murder Sabastian.


Yeah, and I also can't fault Clark for not getting rid of the Brainiac infection. He has clearly shown concern for Chloe but in the end, it's Chloe's life and Clark trusts that she can handle the situation. Now that Clark knows that she can't, he will take action.



She wants that power. Thats been clear since Toxic. She'll fight Clark tooth and nail to keep those abilities because she likes the power and influence it gives her.


I never heard her say that she wanted to get rid of her power, a stark contrast to last season when she didn't want her healing power. I wonder if her being a meteor freak has changed her as well. Maybe she has now warmed up to having powers and that is another reason why she doesn't want to give it up.

[Billy Jor-El]

I would agree Chloe is influenced by Brainiac, but "corrupted?" We really haven't seen real corruption yet. Yes, she killed Sebastian....to protect Clark. She tossed Ollie aside, like Obama is tossing aside Bush, to protect/save Clark. Corrupt is more like Red Kal tearing open an ATM to buy a Ferrari for cash. Chloe ultimately is still showing noble purpose. She could also be "X", she's a hack enough with computers to get that message to Tess, and again, retrieving the crystal will ultimately help Clark. She has said she would do anything to save/protect Clark. Even kill? Yes, that's already been proven. She has also said that for the moment, take the influence of Brainiac as a "gift."

Next week, indeed, the teaser leads us to believe this will all come to a head. And "memory wipe?" Too easy a cop out, I hope it doesn't come to that!

[gameface25]

I think Brainiac is taking control of Chloe without her knowledge and doing things. I'm even more convinced now than before.

1. We know that the crystal was left on Clark's doorstep in a box by a mysterious person.

2. The crystal was modified to suck Clark into the Phantom Zone. Nobody else on Earth would know how to do that.

3. Brainiac was once tied with Zod. Heck, he's been trying to get back Zod every time. Even last time, he tried to make the events of Apocalypse come true by killing Clark as a baby, tricking Kara, and then getting her to free Zod by altering the future/present. What happened this time---the phantom of Zod's wife was found.

4. Even with Clark escaping the Phantom Zone, he now has doubts about the crystal and isn't trusting it. Mind games like this are straight up Brainiac's alley.

5. Chloe is getting closer to Davis. Brainiac is on Zod's side. Davis is Zod's son. Therefore, Brainiac could be corrupting or tempting Chloe to get closer to Davis so he could use her to further set the chain of events that will unleash Doomsday.

6. Who else would have had the crystal & given it away? Tess wouldn't. Ollie didn't want to even see the crystal. Lex is still MIA. The only enemy that would know how to screw with the crystal to send Clark to the Phantom Zone is Brainiac/Chloeiac. No human villian would give up/leave the crystal in a box for Clark to find. Lex does not know about the Phantom Zone or how to send Clark there.

Therefore, I have no doubt that Brainiac is using Chloe to hurt Clark. It's not a surprise how Kara was in this episode---Kara, who was the last person Brainiac used.

The thing is, Chloe still has control over her body, but she's obviously losing it. She helped Clark & Kara get back (even though I think they could have escaped themselves--which I was hoping since I wanted to see a feat of superheroic strength). Brainiac would not have helped them if he solely was controlling her body. Ollie's point to Clark is another sign of Chloeiac being X.

Perfectly put. The whole reasoning behind taking the crystal, and then sending it to Clark, was to get Clark trapped in the PZ, knowing he would escape. This gave the wife of Zod a chance to free herself, come to earth and jumpstart Davis into becoming more Doomsday like

Its all a Brainiac/Zod tie in, and it will be revealed later in this season that Chloe was acting under Brainiacs control all along, without even knowing it

GREAT writing

[doomsdaytitan]

Brainiac is gone.

they have already stated in future episodes that brainiac will be in some.

[Radioflyer]

Brainiac hasn't been in hibernation all this time waiting passing up moments for the best moment to start taking control of Chloe. It's more like a slow growing consciousness of a simple "organism" in her brain. Otherwise he would have taken action in earlier episodes.

[xrayvision]

This episode proved that its Chloe who is ultimately in control.

She used Brainiac's abilities to open that PZ portal. It was not Brainiac that took control of her, it was she that called on its power. And Ollie rightfully saw that she's nutso and told Clark to do something about it. She obviously has some experience using them too, just like last week when she knowingly used them to get murder Sabastian.

She wants that power. Thats been clear since Toxic. She'll fight Clark tooth and nail to keep those abilities because she likes the power and influence it gives her. And that power is currupting her. Hopefully Clark finds out about her pyschotic Brainiac adventures next week.

If she won't help herself then she gives him no choice but to do it himself.

I think Chloe was in control in the onscreen moments we saw. But I have no doubt that there was an offscreen moment where Brainiac busted out and set up that trap for Clark.

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Its all a Brainiac/Zod tie in, and it will be revealed later in this season that Chloe was acting under Brainiacs control all along, without even knowing it

I think it's a double whammy for Chloe:

1. I think there are moments where Brainiac takes complete control of Chloe without her knowing it and does whatever he needs to just to further his plan. We haven't seen these moments yet, but mark my words we will eventually (I don't read or want to read spoilers but am convinced this will happen).

2. Brainiac knows how Chloe cares about Clark and knows how a human could not control their greed to have knowledge/powers like him (Brainiac), so he is standing by and letting Chloe set up her own demise (whether or not it gets that far is something we'll find out). He knows that any human (Chloe) will be corrupted by having so much power and this will put Clark at a huge disadvantage when facing Davis.

[Black Panda]

2. The crystal was modified to suck Clark into the Phantom Zone. Nobody else on Earth would know how to do that.
Also, Chloiac demonstrated she knew how to make the crystal suck him back out. Moreover, I found the comments about "a bird" flying through the window pretty interesting, considering that when Brainiac came to talk to Kara they filmed the scene to suggest that he was some sort of raptor spying on her first. So the bird Chloiac is talking about is Brainiac. It's his little mockery. There are a bunch of odd comments in that Kent farm scene that seem very Brainiac.


Perfectly put. The whole reasoning behind taking the crystal, and then sending it to Clark, was to get Clark trapped in the PZ, knowing he would escape. This gave the wife of Zod a chance to free herself, come to earth and jumpstart Davis into becoming more Doomsday like
Then you get Clark out, because you might want the House of El key later.


5. Chloe is getting closer to Davis. Brainiac is on Zod's side. Davis is Zod's son. Therefore, Brainiac could be corrupting or tempting Chloe to get closer to Davis so he could use her to further set the chain of events that will unleash Doomsday.
I agree. The problem is that Smallville is a little like the Underpants Gnomes some times with their evil plots (Lex taking over the Planet). You can sense that things relate, but I'm not putting money down on them ever being properly explained logically.