Yes or No: was Chloe in control?

[SpiritedDiva]

Why would Brianiac kill that guy?

I'll buy no if someone can give me one logical or even slightly plausible reason for my baby to want to kill that guy. Until I get that you can make arguments all you want about how she looked dazed after she walked out, or about how she isn't a killer... but with motive, means and opportunity... it's looking like she was in control. Corrupted? Influenced by the dark sweetness within? Sure I'll believe it, but controlled? Not buying it until someone gives logical motive to my baby.

That is a good question. Braniac has a plan. As a few have brought out, he's protecting himself, not Clark. Sebastian learned a lot about Clark, maybe he saw Chloiac in Clark's mind. Even if he hadn't, Braniac has a plan for Clark. This guy was a roadblock to that plan. Remove unwanted obstacle, check. Resume plan, check. His goal is to finally to take over Chloe completely. Must get rid of all obstacles to resume plan. Pair that with what he/she said about the human mind, sounds like a super computer to me.

The conversation was not that of a human, an observer of the human mind is more like it.

[kah bell]

She did it for Clark, though - purely for Clark.

[meteor]

maybe:lol:

[go_clo]

Well IMO, the motive wasn't Brainiacs, just the action itself.

Brainiac probably didn't care one way or another if that guy lived or died, he just wanted to pull Chloe closer and closer to the dark side, he wanted to turn her into a murderer cause there isn't alot of ways to come back from something like that. The motive was put right smack dab infront of him for Chloe to want to do something like that so he saw the perfect opportunity to take advantage of Chloe's love and protection over Clark and went for it!

So ya, I think the motive was Chloe's and the actions were Brainiacs. I can't see Chloe actually killing that guy and I can't see Brainiac having a reason to but them together brought on that scene!

[borednow]

That is a good question. Braniac has a plan. As a few have brought out, he's protecting himself, not Clark. Sebastian learned a lot about Clark, maybe he saw Chloiac in Clark's mind. Even if he hadn't, Braniac has a plan for Clark. This guy was a roadblock to that plan. Remove unwanted obstacle, check. Resume plan, check. His goal is to finally to take over Chloe completely. Must get rid of all obstacles to resume plan. Pair that with what he/she said about the human mind, sounds like a super computer to me.

The conversation was not that of a human, an observer of the human mind is more like it.

I'm sorry but umm what's the plan for Clark??? As it stands this is fanwanking... maybe your right... but I just don't see a real indication that Brianiac has ever given a rats rear end about protecting Clark's secret... if anything he did tell Lex so obviously... exposure of Clark isn't an issue for him...

[One-Winged-Angel]

She knew what she was doing. No point in dissecting it further. It was a clever way to solve the "erase his memory beacause we can't have someone knowing clarks secret out there" problem.

[rogueslayer1985]

it was all brainiac, hence the talk about computers before the event

[Hoshi_Reed]

Who here besides me is getting the urge to type: /ctcp Chloe[bot] xdcc list and /ctcp Chloe[bot] xdcc send #1
Maybe the next time someone give me a bot to control I'll name it Chloe[bot] in honor of people who don't understand piracy bots are excellent ways of sharing files in IRC and not getting caught.

[Malicieux Toutou]

huh? What does this have to do with internet piracy?

[oldblackmagick]

Who here besides me is getting the urge to type: /ctcp Chloe[bot] xdcc list and /ctcp Chloe[bot] xdcc send #1
Maybe the next time someone give me a bot to control I'll name it Chloe[bot] in honor of people who don't understand piracy bots are excellent ways of sharing files in IRC and not getting caught.

quit it with the piracy talk...they don't like that round here

[SpiritedDiva]

I'm sorry but umm what's the plan for Clark??? As it stands this is fanwanking... maybe your right... but I just don't see a real indication that Brianiac has ever given a rats rear end about protecting Clark's secret... if anything he did tell Lex so obviously... exposure of Clark isn't an issue for him...


You are right, it is purely speculation on my part. Partly I'm getting this from spoilers.(cause of this speculation) But, until we get 100% verification, isn't that what everyone is doing on this board. Look, I say a lot in that scene points to Braniac being in control.
I think actions, facial expressions, and speech are all very telling. You can't tell me Chloe actually talks like that.

Until we see the next few episodes, nothing can be verified. True, Braniac doesn't care about Clark, he maybe trying to protect himself. He def doesn't want to be exposed which could ruin any plans he may have. This is a logical explanation, and that's what you wanted. Fanwanking (your words) or not.

[TheAmazingApe]

You are right, it is purely speculation on my part. Partly I'm getting this from spoilers.(cause of this speculation) But, until we get 100% verification, isn't that what everyone is doing on this board. Look, I say a lot in that scene points to Braniac being in control.
I think actions, facial expressions, and speech are all very telling. You can't tell me Chloe actually talks like that.

Until we see the next few episodes, nothing can be verified. True, Braniac doesn't care about Clark, he maybe trying to protect himself. He def doesn't want to be exposed which could ruin any plans he may have.

I'm also going off spoilers and spec. But I definitely feel that, in the next ep, Clark being sent to the zone with the repogramed crystal is all the work of X, who I believe is Brainiac. The rest of my assuredness in this not being Chloe is that Chloe, in charge of herself, didn't know Tess didn't have the crystal and that in Abyss, Brainiac will be replacing Chloe's memories with Kryptonian code and that, by Legion, he'll have fully taken her over. That girl was not in the driver's seat and, I think, future eps will make that clear.

He killed Sebastian (or Wilson) in such a detached and calculated way (something Chloe could never do, IMO) because Wilson was insignificant to him. Wilson was something that could get in the way. Such a blatant disregard for human life and emotion s all Brainiac. That's not Chloe. One ep previous, she was beating herself up for not saving more freaks. Now she just kills them because they might get loose-lipped? It's too quick a turn-around. Also, if she was in more conrol here, then she must know she stole the crystal and lied to Clark about it. if Chloe is doing this for Clark, in some kind of corrupted awareness, then she did that for Clark, too. Why wouldn't she give him the crystal then? And why would she proceed to reprogram it to send him to the PZ if these things are being done for Clark's sake.

This kill might seem like something done for Clark, but it's not. It's all against Clark, in the end, and that's not the work of Chloe, even half-aware. The girl was not home.

IMO. YMMV. All that... Time will tell.

[unfocused]

I didn't realize there were 138 Chloe fans on this board :p

[RedKRules]

I don´t think Chloe was in control!

[Hopefulsuicide]

i think she was in control... i mean it's possible that the change to her brain has affected her morals and choices, but it was Chloe's decision to kill that guy in cold blood, and i'm not sure how well that sits with me

but it reminded me of when Giles killed Ben at the end of Buffy season 5... the hero can't do the real protecting, the messy stuff, and sometimes those close to them feel it's neccesary to do it for them

[SpiritedDiva]

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I'm also going off spoilers and spec. But I definitely feel that, in the next ep, Clark being sent to the zone with the repogramed crystal is all the work of X, who I believe is Brainiac. The rest of my assuredness in this not being Chloe is that Chloe, in charge of herself, didn't know Tess didn't have the crystal and that in Abyss, Brainiac will be replacing Chloe's memories with Kryptonian code and that, by Legion, he'll have fully taken her over. That girl was not in the driver's seat and, I think, future eps will make that clear.

He killed Sebastian (or Wilson) in such a detached and calculated way (something Chloe could never do, IMO) because Wilson was insignificant to him. Wilson was something that could get in the way. Such a blatant disregard for human life and emotion s all Brainiac. That's not Chloe. One ep previous, she was beating herself up for not saving more freaks. Now she just kills them because they might get loose-lipped? It's too quick a turn-around. Also, if she was in more conrol here, then she must know she stole the crystal and lied to Clark about it. if Chloe is doing this for Clark, in some kind of corrupted awareness, then she did that for Clark, too. Why wouldn't she give him the crystal then? And why would she proceed to reprogram it to send him to the PZ if these things are being done for Clark's sake.

This kill might seem like something done for Clark, but it's not. It's all against Clark, in the end, and that's not the work of Chloe, even half-aware. The girl was not home.

IMO. YMMV. All that... Time will tell.



Well said! IA.:)

[Super EJ]

No she couldn't have been in control. Because from all the years we have known chloe we know she wouldn't be that cruel. Only brainiac is just as cruel to actually kill somone. Maybe she did want to protect clarks secret but she wouldn't have killed him. It wouldn't be right. Thats why the only answer is "No".

[chlo-el]

This isn't a simple yes or no question. I think Chloe is being influnced by Brainiac but she's doing dark Brainiac like things for Chloe reasons.

[SupaBoy]

she was indeed.

she vowed to Clark that she would protect his secret no matter what.

[Super EJ]

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I'm also going off spoilers and spec. But I definitely feel that, in the next ep, Clark being sent to the zone with the repogramed crystal is all the work of X, who I believe is Brainiac. The rest of my assuredness in this not being Chloe is that Chloe, in charge of herself, didn't know Tess didn't have the crystal and that in Abyss, Brainiac will be replacing Chloe's memories with Kryptonian code and that, by Legion, he'll have fully taken her over. That girl was not in the driver's seat and, I think, future eps will make that clear.

He killed Sebastian (or Wilson) in such a detached and calculated way (something Chloe could never do, IMO) because Wilson was insignificant to him. Wilson was something that could get in the way. Such a blatant disregard for human life and emotion s all Brainiac. That's not Chloe. One ep previous, she was beating herself up for not saving more freaks. Now she just kills them because they might get loose-lipped? It's too quick a turn-around. Also, if she was in more conrol here, then she must know she stole the crystal and lied to Clark about it. if Chloe is doing this for Clark, in some kind of corrupted awareness, then she did that for Clark, too. Why wouldn't she give him the crystal then? And why would she proceed to reprogram it to send him to the PZ if these things are being done for Clark's sake.

This kill might seem like something done for Clark, but it's not. It's all against Clark, in the end, and that's not the work of Chloe, even half-aware. The girl was not home.

IMO. YMMV. All that... Time will tell.
Now that I think of it your right because we don't know who actually must have stolen the crystal. Maybe just maybe it was brainiac's idea to give clark the krystal so that he can be stuck in the phantom zone. But we don't actually know anything at all till this thursday so.. lets see and find out.

[ginnyfan]

OK... I watched the episode again and I'm leaning toward Chloe being totally in control.

She arrived at the guys room wearing gloves so that he couldn't use his power on her. She wanted to find out what he knew about Clark.

Then when he said that Clark deserved to be in Black Creek... I think she decided on the spot to try and overload his mind; using his power against him.

Afterwards, when he went into cardiac arrest, Chloe was disturbed because she wasn't aiming to kill him or give him a heart attack... it was an unanticipated side effect of overloading his mind.

Maybe she held onto his arm just a little too long.

Then again... that stone cold version of Chloe may be a sign of brainiac's influence. In the preview for "Bloodline" Clark talks about a crystal that's reprogrammed to send him into the phantom zone. Sounds like something Chloe could do with her new ability.

[chlo-el]

she was indeed.

she vowed to Clark that she would protect his secret no matter what.

Chloe would never go that far w/out Brainiac influence. She shided Lana for going that far to protect Clark's secret. She was extreamly disapointed in Lana for going too far.

[mistaguitarmasta]

Yeah I think she was in control, but definitely influenced by the presence of Brainiac. It's something she definitely wouldn't have done before, but now can rationalize and justify because of what Brainiac has made her capable of. The power has partially gone to her head, and she's also partly internalizing Brainiac's Machiavellian principles. I wonder what this is going to mean for the future. I don't read spoilers, but I have heard that cuh-razy things will be happening at the Chimmy wedding, so now I'm especially pumped for that, knowing the extreme measures Chloe is willing to go to.

[SupaBoy]

Chloe would never go that far w/out Brainiac influence. She shided Lana for going that far to protect Clark's secret. She was extreamly disapointed in Lana for going too far.

Well it was either that or letting Clark's secret get out. IMO it was all Chloe but tht is MY oppinion.

[Firebunny]

Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.

[SteveS]

Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.

Good one, I hadn't thought about it that way.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Chloe is not a killer and that's perfectly clear to me having watched her all these years.

In the last 3 years, Chloe killed Gabriel Duncan in Hidden and assumed that she killed Linda Lake in Hydro.

[miks]

What? Chloe killed that guy in self defense and I don't remember the Linda Lake one but I'm 100% positive that it was either self defense or she didn't do it.

[SuperKyptonGirl13]

Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.
^ ITA, I totally saw that to

[RedKRules]

That guy partially killed himself in Hidden ..... waittt he was going blow up Smallville :rolleyes: and well for Linda Lake I think she wanted to wash Lana´s car .... :lol:

[Kalista]

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.

IA. I'm not sure what Brainiac's motivation is at this point. Perhaps he doesn't want Clark exposed because it would interfere with his grand plan of Kryptonian world domination. Whatever his reason may be, he isn't looking out for Clark's best interest.

Also, if Chloe were in control, without any influence from Brainiac, then how would she have been able to overload Sebastian's brain? She doesn't possess that kind of power, but Brainac does and she certainly isn't controlling Brainiac.

[RedKRules]

Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.

ITA:cool: ..... it makes total sense !!!

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Also, if Chloe were in control, without any influence from Brainiac, then how would she have been able to overload Sebastian's brain? She doesn't possess that kind of power, but Brainac does and she certainly isn't controlling Brainiac.

exatcly ..... she is the one being controlled !!

[SuperKyptonGirl13]

In the last 3 years, Chloe killed Gabriel Duncan in Hidden and assumed that she killed Linda Lake in Hydro.
It was by accident that she "killed" either of those two , because at each scene she was defending herself, in hidden, Chloe had untied herself and the missile was about to launch she did , she grabbed a cop's nightstick to knock out Gabriel and stop the missile from being launched, she knocked him out then proceeded to dismantle the missile , it was to late so she went over to the glass to see it going off, when she turned around to run out , Gabriel was in front of her with a gun, she tried to fight him they had a tussle and in the end the gun went off and he ended up shot, so even if she pulled the trigger ( which she probably didn't) it would have been for self defense over anything else , i hydro it was a similar situation, Linda was just about to say clark was an alien into the computer in which lana was still connected , Chloe desperately hits the computer right before she says alien to one get rid of the story and two make sure lana didn't hear the last word she said , Linda then punches her and finished her sentence, Chloe goes on to say that her creditability wouldn't be very reliable when she was in jail for the murder of that guy, Linda retorts that the police said that he drowned, Chloe says those police aren't from smallville then goes on about the fact that Linda had been in smallville before in the second meteor shower, after that Linda says nobody likes an overachiever, gabs a nail gun and aims it at Chloe's head, Chloe starts running , Linda follows her, Chloe reaches the elevator just before Linda does, after the elevator she continues running outside till she gets to the other side of the street of the daily planet, where Linda has snuck up on her with her melting into liquid ability, they then get in another tussle where, at the end Chloe has Linda by the hair and throws her down behind her head, she didn't know that Lana had driven out and behind her and lana had hit Linda with her car
In both situations it had been self defense or an accident or both

[abbaspice1]

Originally Posted by Firebunny http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4129027#post4129027)
Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.

That doesn't mean that Chloe wasn't in control. The guys eyes also turned green, the same color as Chloe's. It is a mix of Chloe and Brainiac...what most people of this board is saying.

And again, if Chloe wasn't 'there', why the look on her face as she left his room? Why didn' she look around and wondered, 'why am I here? At the hospital?' If people are claiming that Brainiac didn't come out until she was in the hospital room, why did she wear gloves there int he first place? If she did 'come to' in the hospital, surely Chloe, being the fine and upstanding moral compass of the show, would have turned around and at least ask one of the nurses what was going on.

At the very least, Chloe likes having Brainiac's powers. She has used them time and time again, not worrying about the consequences of her actions. She knows that she is playing with a bomb. And it is set to go off at any time.

[Jory]

Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.


This is brilliant, and makes a lot of sense. Great catch.

[Dustmite]

Lots of people think it was Chloe corrupted by Brainiac who killed Sebastian, but has anyone stopped to consider that it was Brainiac "corrupted" by Chloe? Because Brainiac was obviously the conscious one in that scene. Not Chloe. The episode made that very clear.

Think about Sebastian's power. When he touches people he can see their memories. The show set it up that he has no control over his power. He can't decide when he's going to use it and when he isn't. Otherwise he never would have seen Clark's memories because when Clark touched him things were happening way too fast for him to decide to activate his power. So, you touch Sebastian or Sebastian touches you, he's going to see something.

When Chloe touched him, what did he see? Did he see Chloe's memories? No. He saw Kryptonian code. He saw Kryptonian code because he was making contact with Brainiac. Chloe wasn't there. Brianiac used Sebastian's power against him to overload his brain and kill him.

I didn't even make that connection but yes, you're completely right.

[SteveS]

Chloe does not kill, it is not her way, but it is true that she would do anything to protect ClarkMan. Rather, it is Brainiac who has been shown to murder or maim without conscience repeatedly. Firebunny has it right and made a good assessment.

Let's see, we have a room with glass windows and a hall way full of passers-by. Then we have a petite blonde woman completely visible to any and all visiting the patient. Hark! Alarms go off in the room ('Code blue') and medical personnel pass this visitor as she has just left the room. Uh and duh, Chloe in her right mind would never be so bold and foolish as to do such, but a Brainiac with the ability to morph into whatever form needed would do exactly such and be unconcerned about doing so.

Kryptonian code caused Sebastian's brain overload and that a Brainiac trick, whether Sebastian is actually dead or merely a vegetable. Kind of like what Lana was just last year.

[BadaBingBadaBoomsday]

Don't ask me how it is possible, but here is my theory.:D
Lex is sitting in a room with joysticks and microphones, controlling Chloe ala the peguin in Batman, when he drives the Batmobile. He has a direct feed to Chloes actions.

HAHAHA, but you have to admit, it was as if MR played that part with a Chloe mask on:lol:

[ginnyfan]

Don't ask me how it is possible, but here is my theory.:D
Lex is sitting in a room with joysticks and microphones, controlling Chloe ala the peguin in Batman, when he drives the Batmobile. He has a direct feed to Chloes actions.



Hot Dog! I'm on board with this theory. LOL!

[nickyjean_1]

Was she in control, knew what she was doing? Yes. Was that as a result of Brian whispering in her ear/removing her inhibitions? I believe so.

She's way to self aware of Clark and his guilt to do anything like that on her on.

I honestly was thinking that when she was electricuted by the krypo lie detector was when Brain got the boost he needed to start taking control and this is only the first step.

[Bruce Knight]

its simple chloe would never intenionaly kill somone weve known chloe for many years to know that, so it is some sort of outside(or should i say inside) influance, whatever brainiac did to her obviously changed her in some way, not a complete transformation but she is somwhat differant, and not just her inhanced intelligence her attitude tword clark jimmy is differant and has some weird attraction to davis bloome all of a sudden, the she kills that guy by doing somthing very brainiac and even talking like him and being very cold in emotion then when shes done and leaving the room we see a little spark of worry or maybe remorse for what shes done, so is she possed by brainiac ? maybe maybe not she just might be infected a little, somthing i hope the fortress of solidtude can fix in aybss

[4Clana]

Chloe was in control because she had remorse but she walked away anyway.

[dimeo782002]

Hey,

I read through most of the posts here before posting, to get a grasp on the what's and why's of what people think. Now, here's my opinionated answer, with reasons (some based on fact, others based on implications and lastly, some based on givens).

I absolutely, positively believe that Chloe Sullivan was completely and unquestionably in control of her body and mind at the time of the murder of Sebastian, the Memory-Peeper/Thief. Here are my collected points of view and reasons why my answer is 'yes'.

1. Chloe Sullivan was completely calm and collected when she spoke with Sebastian and/or to him. There was absolutely no hesitation, no conflict and no lack of resolve to display that Brainiac had vied or wrestled control of Chloe's body from her.
2. Her questions were completely purposeful and meaningful of her watching out for Clark Kent. She deliberately asked how much Sebastian found out about Clark when Clark touched him for that brief milisecond/nanosecond. If Brainiac had been in control, there would have been no dialogue in respect to Clark's character or history; the conversation would have focused on something to further Brainiac's survival and/or chances against Clark. As other posters have said, Brainiac simply does not care for Clark's health.
3. The attack only came after an implied threat was issued in Clark's direction. Sebastian commented that 'Black Creek' was a place made to house someone like Clark. Prior to this, Chloe was simply conversing with him in a rational manner. Ergo, the attack which took Sebastian's life was a direct response to the implied threat issued. That is something Chloe would have done (with an exception or two: please see below).
4. As Chloe left, her facial expression can be described as regret, confusion and/or sadness, possibly a combination of all three. Chloe was completely in control when she made the decision to end Clark's life but it's one that does not/did not come without consequences, those being regret and sadness and taking a life and the confusion of trying to decide what it now means that she has killed to protect Clark.

The noted exception is here: In Season 7, Episode 7, 8 or 9 (I'm not sure which one so I listed them with an 'or' therefore, it can't be incorrect [I hope]), Chloe confronts Lana about her being willing to kill Lex and how lucky Clark must be to have someone willing to kill for him. She makes it unquestionably clear that she wouldn't kill for Clark in that scene; however, since time has passed since then, there is nothing from outruling the possibility that Chloe has come to realize or believe that some death is necessary for the 'greater good'. In addition to that exception, Chloe noted in the prior episode, while conversing with Clark, that in the beginning, she would have done anything to protect Clark - note the past tense used. Chloe no longer feels that way, implied by her statement and choice use of the words 'would have'.

The conclusion is that Chloe is indeed in control - for the moment. It has been stipulated that there may be an influence or persuasion from Brainiac which swayed her even though she had control. I disagree - Brainiac has no emotion, loyalty or regard for anything except self-preservation. In this circumstance, Brainiac's "entity", for lack of a better word, wasn't threatened by Sebastian. Therefore, there would be, if anything, a sense of indifference coming from Brainiac.

I hope my response aids in the discussion. ^_^

i totally disagree and the fact that chloe had that conversation with lana in nseason 7 proves that chloe would not do this under NORMAL circumstances . but to each there own .

im open minded but yet know chloe she would not hurt clark like this and yes when he finds out he will be hurt he would never want someone to kill for him !!! chloe knows that and also brainiac is within her who needs more of an excuse than that ?

[Black Panda]

1. Chloe Sullivan was completely calm and collected when she spoke with Sebastian and/or to him. There was absolutely no hesitation, no conflict and no lack of resolve
And this seems unlike Milton Fine how? She wasn't just calm, she was sadistic in her explaination, just like Fine.


If Brainiac had been in control, there would have been no dialogue in respect to Clark's character or history; the conversation would have focused on something to further Brainiac's survival and/or chances against Clark.
OK, what is Brainiac's main purpose again? Oh yeah to bring Zod. Next week we visit the Phantom Zone, where the exit is keyed to the House of El. Coincidence?

[borednow]

Yes she was in control. Under the influence of something else? Mostlikely, but she was in the drivers seat of her body.

[ginnyfan]

Chloe's cold calmness is what makes me think that Chloe's Brainiac powers are having an effect on her. Either that or being in Black Creek for 3 months has... given Chloe a cold hard edge. That's possible.

Another thing I've been thinking about is that Chloe knew Sebastian as a murderer. She doesn't know about his new lease on life. She probably also assumes that he's in league with Tess. So in letting Sebastian go, Chloe risks Clark's secret and possibly his life. Chloe has seen Clark abducted and put in a cage during "Traveler." So maybe the stakes are high enough that... it could drive her to extremes. I don't know if she came in intending to kill him... Perhaps this scene is akin to Lana's elevator scene at the beginning of Season 6 where she threatens the Dr. that Lex was working with.

Chloe's brainiac power has affected her. But so has her time at Black Creek and possibly the things she witnessed at the end of season 7.

[RedKRules]

Chloe was in control because she had remorse but she walked away anyway.

It looked like WTH am I doing here moment to me .......

[chlo-el]

Don't ask me how it is possible, but here is my theory.:D
Lex is sitting in a room with joysticks and microphones, controlling Chloe ala the peguin in Batman, when he drives the Batmobile. He has a direct feed to Chloes actions.

HAHAHA, but you have to admit, it was as if MR played that part with a Chloe mask on:lol:

:lol:Well, she was wearing Lex's glove.

[Skaterpen357]

The way I see it, even if Chloe would normally think that way, she's not exactly the type to compare a human brain to a computer; that's definitely a Brainiac line. And the only thing that outweighs the "Braniac can't be protecting Clark's secret" thing is that Chloe doesn't kill, let alone without remorse or emotion. It makes even less sense than Brainiac's newfound protection of Clark's secret...

[Bane]

Chloe definitely wasn't in control, you can tell by the face she makes as she walks past the room after she performed her dastardly deed.

[Bizarrolover]

I think that she was in control, maybe not completely, because she looked very shocked as she walked away, as if incredulous that she actually did that. But she never told Clark about this incident, she never asked his help to cure the brainiac infection (in fract she refused it) despite that it's making her kill people. I think that right now she's very confused. She likes the power that brainiac is giving her but she's not ready to deal with the consequences. Or maybe the brainiac infection is messing her with her brain so much that she can't tell the difference between her own thoughts and brainiac's programing. Let's see what happens in Abyss.

[zorasuperman]

dont think chloe was in control
hmmmm
nope she still wasnt

[jpfort1957]

Would Chloe kill in cold blood? No
Would Chole kill if Clark was in emanate danger of losing his life? Probably

Would Brainiac kill ? He is a machine, all life is in his way and meaningless.

[pizzahead2490]

I think we can clearly say Yes now