View Full Version : Should Clark have let Jimmy in on his secret?
unfocused
10-30-2008, 09:02 PM
I think Jimmy was really sincere when he was pleading to Clark and Chloe about letting him in on the secret.
I do think the less people that know of Clarks secret, the better. So I don't think Clark and Chloe should have told him. But I think Jimmy would be completely, 100% utterly loyal to Clark if he did know his secret.
Also, I think Clark is an excellent lair :lol: He almost had ME convinced! But not really. I like how Jimmy pushed it though, and didn't let the lies affect his judgment. That scene where Jimmy says "Then I guess I'll have to prove it" was a good one. I was hoping for a more cynical Jimmy though, I was hoping he'd say "Don't make me prove it," instead. But Jimmy played a good role this episode. I've always liked him and I am glad a lot of fans enjoyed him in this episode.
davidbrenton
10-30-2008, 09:06 PM
I think so. It's about time somebody else knew. Of course season 7 was just too much. Everyone and the grandson knew.
oldblackmagick
10-30-2008, 09:06 PM
i am one of the few that can't stand him usually...but i loved him tonight and i loved him with clark...they have such potential to be awesome freinds and i hope the show explores this more cause i really was kinda hoping that jimmy would find out and just know...whenever clark would disappear he would help and make excuses even though clark would deny it all jimmy would know the truth and help his friend...it can still happen cause clark is bound to screw up more often now that he and jimmy actually talk and hang out (having dinner and all):p
dru-zod2501
10-30-2008, 09:09 PM
yeah, if they let Jimmy in on it, it might possibly help ease Jimmy's insecurity.
"Chloe, why our 5th date in a row? I had tickets for Mamma Mia!!"
"I'm so sorry Jimmy, y'know how it is. aliens & mutants & Lex, and Clark couldn't find his boxers without me"
"fine, but I want a shared byline this time!!"
SteveS
10-30-2008, 09:17 PM
No, little Jimmy is too weak a person in mind, body, and spirit to know 'the secret' of ClarkMan Kent.
wolverine316
10-30-2008, 09:17 PM
If Pete couldn't handle it then there is no way Jimmy could either.
WickedJenn
10-30-2008, 09:20 PM
No, and no version of Jimmy Olsen (that I can recall) ever knows Clark Kent's secret.
SnowBird
10-30-2008, 09:26 PM
No, he doesn't need to know. He couldn't keep a secret. I know Clark was worried about Jimmy being hurt if he knew Clark's secret but I'm thinking Clark may be the one who suffers if Jimmy knew.
BadToad
10-30-2008, 09:35 PM
No, and I think Clark clearly explained why Jimmy shouldn't know. Its a huge burden for someone to carry, and keeping that secret might not be so easy. We saw Pete crumble under the pressure. We heard Chloe say just last week how much effort and time it takes to be in the know. And of course, last season, Lana was turned into target #1. Clark not telling Jimmy isn't a slight to Jimmy. He's trying to protect him.
pizzahead2490
10-30-2008, 09:38 PM
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!
Fish1941
10-30-2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks to Clark insisting upon keeping his secret from Jimmy, he has forced Chole to lie to her fiance. Good going, Clark. There's nothing like coming between a future husband and wife.
kal-el_Girl
10-30-2008, 09:59 PM
I wanted jimmy to know but I know that technically that's not supposed to happen so I'm confused...:confused: but it was a great episode
unfocused
10-30-2008, 10:01 PM
I honestly didn't think the poll would be this close. So far, 8 people voted Jimmy should know Clarks secret. I thought this would be a lopsided poll, I'm glad it isn't though.
WickedJenn
10-30-2008, 10:05 PM
I know SV is doing things differently a lot of the time, but I like when they stick to DC things like this...Jimmy not knowing Clark's secret, it should stay that way.
xrayvision
10-30-2008, 10:07 PM
Jimmy is a good guy, but Clark doesn't want to burden him with such a dangerous thing.
superspider02
10-30-2008, 10:08 PM
yea jimmy wouldnt be able to handle the secret and it would cause him to get hurt one day.
cygnusx1
10-30-2008, 10:09 PM
bad things happen to those who know the secret. as someone said in a previous post, he would fold under pressure
unfocused
10-30-2008, 10:10 PM
I know SV is doing things differently a lot of the time, but I like when they stick to DC things like this...Jimmy not knowing Clark's secret, it should stay that way.
Excellent point, I completely agree.
ShadowoftheBat
10-30-2008, 10:11 PM
Hey i like jimmy olsen and i cant wait to see more of the jimmy clark relationship from the movies and comics but i have never seen or heard of jimmy knowing clarks secret so i don't think that he should or ever will find out
susangail
10-30-2008, 10:48 PM
No
morrigan01
10-30-2008, 10:58 PM
You know, part of me wanted Jimmy to be let in, but I totally understand why Clark didn't want him to be burdened with it.
But Jimmy IS going to figure it out the minute Clark goes public, unless Jimmy's extremely mind-wiped.
Lilah
10-30-2008, 11:21 PM
Did anyone else notice how quick Jimmy figured it out though. No other Jimmy Olsen has been that quick to learn things. Out of all the new characters, Jimmy is most developed for sure...
Khyla
10-30-2008, 11:32 PM
i understand Clark's point about not wanting to put Jimmy's life in danger by divulging his secret.
But Jimmy finally had an explanation for the weirdness between Chloe and him over Clark, It made everything fall into place for him. It gave him a respect for Clark and a feeling of security and understanding in his relationship with Chloe.
I think Clark should have realized that and maybe taken that into consideration. By refusing to acknowledge Jimmy's conclusions, Clark was in a way taking back the peace of mind it gave Jimmy and replacing it once again with jealousy and insecurity. (Maybe Clark prefers it that way? hmmmmm......)
Black Panda
10-30-2008, 11:49 PM
No, and I think Clark clearly explained why Jimmy shouldn't know. Its a huge burden for someone to carry, and keeping that secret might not be so easy.
Maybe so, but there comes a point where the denial is just not plausible. Consider Lex or Lana. Now neither of them were reliable, but also, the secret really wasn't much of a secret past a certain point and it just pissed them off no end to be continually insulted. It's a good way to make enemies.
Thanks to Clark insisting upon keeping his secret from Jimmy, he has forced Chole to lie to her fiance. Good going, Clark. There's nothing like coming between a future husband and wife.
Well, anything that comes between Jimmy and Chloe is probably a good thing, but I get you in principle. There is something way way off that neither feels he can be trusted, but Chloe thinks she can marry him.
But Jimmy finally had an explanation for the weidness between chloe and him over Clark, It made everything fall into place for him. It gave him a respect for Clark and a feeling of security and understanding in his relationship with Chloe.
The weirdness has been staring Jimmy in the face a long time. The dodge was pretty pathetic. I think this is going to come back again, just has it has with other characters who were put temporarily off the trail. To which I say, cool. I think Jimmy learning is the thing to eventually put his relationship with Clark and with Chloe onto a place to mirror the comic dynamic with Clark Lois and Jimmy, where Jimmy crushes on Lois but knows he can't compete with Supes.
Khyla
10-30-2008, 11:58 PM
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Well, anything that comes between Jimmy and Chloe is probably a good thing, but I get you in principle. There is something way way off that neither feels he can be trusted, but Chloe thinks she can marry him.
The weirdness has been staring Jimmy in the face a long time. The dodge was pretty pathetic. I think this is going to come back again, just has it has with other characters who were put temporarily off the trail. To which I say, cool. I think Jimmy learning is the thing to eventually put his relationship with Clark and with Chloe onto a place to mirror the comic dynamic with Clark Lois and Jimmy, where Jimmy crushes on Lois but knows he can't compete with Supes.
oh I completely agree! :)
And I loved the scene with Jimmy putting it all together with Clark. It was like this wonderful revelation! and he was in awe of the whole thing !
I usually don't like his Chimmy scenes, but I just loved his scenes with Clark tonight. :)
unfocused
10-31-2008, 04:05 AM
But Jimmy finally had an explanation for the weidness between chloe and him over Clark, It made everything fall into place for him. It gave him a respect for Clark and a feeling of security and understanding in his relationship with Chloe.
I think Clark should have realized that and maybe taken that into consideration. By refusing to acknowledge Jimmy's conclusions, Clark was in a way taking back the peace of mind it gave JImmy and replacing it once again with jealousy and insecurity. (Maybe Clark prefers it that way? hmmmmm......)
Clark had Jimmy's safety in consideration. Jimmy's feelings of insecurity and jealously are his own self esteem problems. Clark did the right thing and sacrificed Jimmy's sensitive feelings over any dangerous risks of knowing his secret.
And what's with thinking that Clark wants Jimmy to be jealous? trust me, Chlark is OVER. That's a dead horse, both Chloe and Clark have well moved on. It's in the past, where it will stay.
Edit: And this was my evil post. #666 :lol:
Khyla
10-31-2008, 06:34 AM
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Edit: And this was my evil post. #666 :lol:
:lol: I'm flattered to be the recipient of your post #666, on Halloween yet! :D
And what's with thinking that Clark wants Jimmy to be jealous? trust me, Chlark is OVER. That's a dead horse, both Chloe and Clark have well moved on. It's in the past, where it will stay.
well, i'm not gonna even get into that. it's for another thread.:)
But that's not necessarily what I meant here. I'm saying that Clark has a chance to make things more amicable between he and Jimmy, as it should be. As Black Panda said "there comes a point where the denial is just not plausible." ...If Clark was to continue his friendship with Chloe it would strain the Chimmy relationship even further when it got to the point where it just pissed Jimmy off "to no end to be continually insulted. It's a good way to make enemies." So perhaps Clark 's thinking is that it will give him more incentive to distance himself from the couple if he really does place such great importance on Chloe's happiness as he's said, and truly believes her happiness lies in her life with Jimmy. :\ In other words he wouldn't want his secret to come between her and Jimmy, would he?
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SO I can't even vote here, because while I think YES Clark should have told him, I'm glad he didn't because it drives a wedge even further between Chloe and Jimmy,
BUT then again, it may cause Clark to also distance himself from Chloe, which just might be what he wants to try to do. :(
Jaded Wolf
10-31-2008, 06:55 AM
You know it would make sense in this canon to allow Jimmy to know. I thought Clark would let him in on it maybe and then Jimmy would come up with the costume idea. This episode did point out how easy someone could make the connection between Clark and the mystery superhero. Jimmy was great in this episode though.
Khyla
10-31-2008, 07:03 AM
You know it would make sense in this canon to allow Jimmy to know. I thought Clark would let him in on it maybe and then Jimmy would come up with the costume idea. This episode did point out how easy someone could make the connection between Clark and the mystery superhero. Jimmy was great in this episode though.
I agree I really loved him in this episode. I actually didn't even skip past any of his scenes like I normally would when I re-watched it. :)
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AA did an EXCELLENT job portraying Jimmy's revelations about Clark. i was laughing and grinning ear to ear. Loved his excitement and his reaction to Clark and Chloe.
Meteror Freak
10-31-2008, 07:20 AM
A much as I love Jimmy....
no because Jimmy's curiosity will become vital when Clark finally becomes superman. Besides, it's too early.
OneWayFilms
10-31-2008, 07:21 AM
If Jimmy WERE to find out the truth later, he would have every right to be upset at Chloe for lying to him to protect Clark. Marraiges are suppose to be based on truth and honesty, and for her to lie to him over another guy would break their relationship. This is a potential time bomb just waiting to happen.
LoveHurts38
10-31-2008, 07:23 AM
No
Dodge006
10-31-2008, 08:00 AM
NO WAY!!
Far too many know as is.
Besides, this now starts the trend of whenever someone thinks it's CK, there's something he does to make them laugh at the thought of it (Like in Superman Returns when he gives Lois and Cyclops the "Forrest Gump" wave.)
SteveS
10-31-2008, 09:07 AM
The more people that know a secret, the greater likelihood that there is no secret as people can't resist blabbing to other people.
ClarksGal
10-31-2008, 09:35 AM
No, and I think Clark clearly explained why Jimmy shouldn't know. Its a huge burden for someone to carry, and keeping that secret might not be so easy. We saw Pete crumble under the pressure. We heard Chloe say just last week how much effort and time it takes to be in the know. And of course, last season, Lana was turned into target #1. Clark not telling Jimmy isn't a slight to Jimmy. He's trying to protect him.
Precisely. And I loved that this is his reason.
celita
10-31-2008, 09:36 AM
The third arc of last season was about all the secret keepers paying the consecuences of being in the know, Lionel, Kara, Pete, Lana and Chloe,they all suffered last season for being in the know. I think it's logic that Clark doesn't tell the secret to Lois and Jimmy now. The explained the reasons last year.
stenochick
10-31-2008, 09:36 AM
Clark is aware of the effect knowing the secret has had on his parents, Pete, Chloe, and Lana. Despite his desire for friendship, love, and to not be alone, in his mind, he cannot let anyone else know the secret.
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The third arc of last season was about all the secret keepers paying the consecuences of being in the know, Lionel, Kara, Pete, Lana and Chloe,they all suffered last season for being in the know. I think it's logic that Clark doesn't tell the secret to Lois and Jimmy now. The explained the reasons last year.
Good point. I forgot about Lionel and Kara as well.
BadaBingBadaBoomsday
10-31-2008, 09:40 AM
Telling Jimmy would be like posting on this forum that Lex is in the next episode. It would spread like wildfire.
BTW that was not a spoiler.:lol:
unfocused
10-31-2008, 09:52 AM
The more people that know a secret, the greater likelihood that there is no secret as people can't resist blabbing to other people.
Love that picture of Lois in your avatar :)
AA did an EXCELLENT job portraying Jimmy's revelations about Clark. i was laughing and grinning ear to ear. Loved his excitement and his reaction to Clark and Chloe.
I agree. That scene where Jimmy puts it all together... sent chills up my spine. I loved it so much, AA was perfect in it. He really looked stunned when he figured it out, I rewatched that scene, instant replay style, lol.
But that's not necessarily what I meant here. I'm saying that Clark has a chance to make things more amicable between he and Jimmy, as it should be. As Black Panda said "there comes a point where the denial is just not plausible." ...If Clark was to continue his friendship with Chloe it would strain the Chimmy relationship even further when it got to the point where it just pissed Jimmy off "to no end to be continually insulted. It's a good way to make enemies." So perhaps Clark 's thinking is that it will give him more incentive to distance himself from the couple if he really does place such great importance on Chloe's happiness as he's said, and truly believes her happiness lies in her life with Jimmy. :\ In other words he wouldn't want his secret to come between her and Jimmy, would he?
I see your point, but I still have to disagree.
Clark was willing to "forcibly" stop his best friend, Pete, from a dangerous street race. It didn't matter to Clark how their friendship would end up after that, all he focused on was keeping Pete from killing himself or getting himself killed. And this is how a hero should think. Save lives before you save feelings. Jimmy and Chloe could be the most miserable couple ever, but as long as they are safe then a heroes job is done.
It's tragic, but necessary. Lives are more important than friendships and marriages. Ask any ordinary joe that saves lives for a living, they have to agree. Superman would save someone even if they will hate him for it. Superman would protect villains, despite the fact that they will just continue their criminal ways. So I think it makes sense for him to put Jimmy's safety before his feelings. Even if he does care about the Chimmy thing.
celita
10-31-2008, 12:07 PM
Telling Jimmy would be like posting on this forum that Lex is in the next episode. It would spread like wildfire.
BTW that was not a spoiler.:lol:
Well he has known about Chloe's power for a year and he didn't tell anyone.
Aries83
10-31-2008, 12:49 PM
I'm going to say no, simply because if Jimmy did know, he'd have no plot to work with the rest of the series.
Kevin24
10-31-2008, 12:54 PM
I did feel bad for Jimmy when they were lying to him in his face. He figured everything out and even knew they didn't trust him. In my heart I wanted him to know just so he could be happy and finally understand everything about Chloe.
It just wasn't meant to be since Clark did not want to endanger his life and wanted to keep him safe.
last man of krypton
10-31-2008, 01:02 PM
Not just, "no", but "hell no".
christian_kryptonian
10-31-2008, 02:02 PM
In my opinion, Jimmy knowing would be more against the mythos that Lex finding out. I would go nuts if Jimmy knew. The show would be next to pointless. If anything, LESS people need to know.
switchfoot
10-31-2008, 02:47 PM
i think he can be trusted
Krypton935
10-31-2008, 02:56 PM
No I don't think so.
even if he had many people on K-site would be like "OMG another person knows" "This is ridiculous!" etc So I think its better off this way!
disciples of zod
10-31-2008, 03:00 PM
as cool as it would be if jimmy did know clark's secret, i have to agree with the majority. it would be too hard on jimmy to have to carry around such big news.
however, i'm sure he could be trusted, but he's so ditzy sometimes (IMO) and he would probably crack under pressure. then again, i would too...maybe.
idk, those are my two cents worth.
~K
Firebunny
10-31-2008, 03:05 PM
It's Clark's secret. He has the right to confirm it or not to confirm it to whomever he wants for whatever reason.
baltazor
10-31-2008, 03:09 PM
He shouldn't find out. Not yet at least. Not everyone can know who Clark is...
Eurynome
10-31-2008, 03:17 PM
I think Clark was right to keep his secret from Jimmy. People have killed each other over this and Jimmy is in no way ready. He's too innocent and naive to help someone live a double life. Some mythos should not be bent or broken, and I think this is a fine example of it. It's been said that Jimmy represents that ideals that Superman is trying to protect. It should stay that way.
Serynarpc
10-31-2008, 04:36 PM
Jimmy shouldn't know.
He knows enough to trust Chloe and Clark- it looks as though he would be able to trust the duo completely now.
However, Jimmy reminds me a lot of Pete. Chloe and Clark know what Pete had to endure to protect Clark and how sour Pete became before he came to a middle with Clark. Jimmy would keep his word to Clark, but he shouldn't be put in the line of fire. Clark has his abilities, Chloe has her healing (or did?) and her Brainiac update and Jimmy has a camera. No way that he'd be able to take any fallout.
thehenry89
10-31-2008, 06:18 PM
no way :lol: though i don't doubt jimmy would keep his secret.
smallviluva
10-31-2008, 07:28 PM
i clicked yes simply because of how sincere jimmy was, and he could actually be trusted, n he was so understanding. but honestly he shouldnt have told him because it goes against everything, jimmy never finds out in the dc, and clark needs to protect his secret and less ple need to know. Only reason i clicked yes was because i thouhght it would be a nice idea.
zHeN_zHeN
10-31-2008, 11:36 PM
Nope.
He's not worthy. :p
But, seriously... it's better he doesn't know.
"Ignorance is Bliss."
Karafan1
10-31-2008, 11:44 PM
No way! Jimmy would "spill the beans" in less than a week..
Black Panda
11-01-2008, 01:54 AM
It's Clark's secret. He has the right to confirm it or not to confirm it to whomever he wants for whatever reason.
It's Clark's secret, but his descision to protect it seems to be all paniced reflex, and little reasoned consideration. Now admittedly, this episode seemed to be about taking baby steps forward.
borednow
11-01-2008, 02:22 AM
yeah, if they let Jimmy in on it, it might possibly help ease Jimmy's insecurity.
"Chloe, why our 5th date in a row? I had tickets for Mamma Mia!!"
"I'm so sorry Jimmy, y'know how it is. aliens & mutants & Lex, and Clark couldn't find his boxers without me"
"fine, but I want a shared byline this time!!"
:rotfl:
chlo-el
11-01-2008, 09:34 AM
When I was seeing Jimmy's reactions he seemed so happy and relieved like this explained everything about Chloe and Clark that had worried him before. And when he confronted him both I wanted Clark to tell him. My thinking is that this showed that Chloe could never really be honest with Jimmy. And if Clark wants Chloe to have a healthy relationship with Jimmy he should tell Jimmy. But then when Clark told Ollie how his secret has ruined so many people's lives, I'm all like, "Awe". Clark doesn't want to ruin Jimmy's life. So Clark shouldn't tell Jimmy to protect him. It just gives me another reason why Chloe Jimmy shouldn't be together and why Chloe needs to be with someone from the superhero/secret keeping life style.
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No, and no version of Jimmy Olsen (that I can recall) ever knows Clark Kent's secret.
Well is there any version of Pete Ross other then SV that knows Clark secret?
Mr.Magic
11-01-2008, 09:38 AM
Well is there any version of Pete Ross other then SV that knows Clark secret?
*cough* COMICS *cough*
chlo-el
11-01-2008, 09:43 AM
^So Pete Ross did find out in the comics? I thought Lana knew but kept it from Pete?
Mr.Magic
11-01-2008, 09:58 AM
^So Pete Ross did find out in the comics? I thought Lana knew but kept it from Pete?
She did, but President Luthor told his V.P. Pete Ross, and unlike Lex he didn't get mindwiped again by Manchester Black, who is the one that told L.L. in the first place.
Sweetie
11-02-2008, 12:53 PM
No,Clark did the right thing.I like Jimmy but,it's too dangerous for him to know the secret.Look what happenned to Pete?The same thing would happenned to him and his destiny is to be Clark's co-worker so,he can't know.
Alexander III
11-02-2008, 01:11 PM
Noo, coz he's annoying. And he can't keep secrets. And he stinks.
One-Winged-Angel
11-02-2008, 05:44 PM
No, it would contradict with the superman legend
bychance
11-02-2008, 06:38 PM
No way. And its not about trust or friendship, but for his own good. As far as I know, no other Jimmy in any incarnation has gotten anywhere as close to SV Jimmy as far as Clark's powerful ability. I'm not an accuracy nut either, just wanted to point that out, lol. But that's not the main reason. I just think its very in character for CK to be protective of his friends and what would happen if anyone knew who he was.
zorasuperman
11-03-2008, 07:21 AM
if jimmy was a true friend to clark, which he is though dont get me wrong, but when jimmy (stated the obvious and said "fine you don't trust me") he just answered his own thoughts and questions. OBVIOUSLY clark doesnt trust him (yet), and jimmy should have stopped from there. he shouldn't have been all like "well im going to prove it to you no matter what." to me a true friend shouldn't be on your case to find out what you are or are not doing.
Hopefulsuicide
11-03-2008, 08:56 AM
i don't think jimmy needed to be told anything... he'd figured it out... and Clark was not THAT convincing... i mean, he took short cuts? come on!
if Jimmy is clever enough to figure out Clark is the blur, he should have been clever enough to realise that the figure who saved him might not be the same person... that it might be a set up...
p.s. if he wanted to prove it, all he had to do was set up a reason for Clark to have to use his super speed in front of him... i was a little dissapointed that we didnt get too see him try to prove it, it would have been fun
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