Evil Chloe: Did you see the twist of the Brainiac reveal coming?

[Krpyto]

I love it!

[Aries83]

That ending truly made me scream! Awesome...Bring on evil Chloe!

[Jaded Wolf]

Most definetely. That last scene was just awesome. I totally love what she did yet scared of the direction this will take her. Season 8 is definetely redeeming the seasons that came before.

[Aries83]

Me too! My mouth literally dropped open!

[Ragius]

WOW. I was NOT expecting that.

I wonder what other abilities Chloe discovered about herself once she started morphing into Ms. Brainiac?!

[Eri-El]

A little scary I thought.......She kinda looked like she knew what she was doing, but weirded out afterwards......

[Chulance]

Perfect for the day before halloween.Chloe rocks

[6-Super-Man -5]

What can I say, she was destined to be a villain. :p
But its good she killed him, because he knew Clark's past and secret.

[tariksam]

dude there are no words...so Chloe is evil? agree she knew what she was doing.....

[Chulance]

yeah what did she do?

[pjack]

YES!! Freaking loved it. I wasn't a believer in the Chloiac at first then after a few spoilers :( and this episode I see it emerging now. AWESOME!!

[LightSeeker]

What the hell was that? Chloe's evil now?

[hyped4lnc]

I love shocks and twists. I never saw that coming. It was brilliant.

[LimeArrow]

I guess she's willing to kill in order to protect Clark's secret.

[Aloof]

HOLY CRAP. That really freaked me out! Go Chloe!

[AndiGirl]

Me too! My mouth literally dropped open!

Me too!! :lol: I definitely squeeled!!!

So does this mean Brainiac has been in charge for awhile now, and he's just putting on an act??? It certainly looks that way! :eek:

Great forshawdowing of whats to come....AM can pull off evil really well, who knew!?

[Aries83]

But its good she killed him, because he knew Clark's past and secret.

I think that's why she did it, but she learned very quickly...It has something to do with when the computer malfunctioned at the Isis Foundation...

[madcatlady]

As soon as I saw those gloves, I was like, wow, this is gonna be it.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Gahlee! I am freakin loving this season! Every episode has a had a shocking ending! This is probably the most shocking, so far!! I was like, "Oh crap. Crap. Its Braniac!" the whole time in that scene. My hands were like dug in to my chair and I was in shock.

Awesome, AWESOME job PS3!

[tariksam]

I guess she's willing to kill in order to protect Clark's secret.

That's the way I took it too

[class09mm]

i loved that. i knew he was going to die cuz the black gloves and black sleeve forshadowed it but i had no idea that it was chloe :O

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Me too! My mouth literally dropped open!

Me too! I was like in total shock!

[dru-zod2501]

she fully redeemed this ep from the wuss-itude that was Clark

Go Chlo!!

[abbaspice1]

That was WOW!!!!

And I do believe Chloe knew what she was doing? She seemed weird-out afterwards. Brainiac would not be weird-out.

[tariksam]

she is really taking advantage of this powers doesn't she....

[Aries83]

And if she's been like this the whole time, it's safe to say that she could be the one that's toying with Tess about the blue crystal.

[theotherJane]

i loved that. i knew he was going to die cuz the black gloves and black sleeve forshadowed it but i had no idea that it was chloe :O

Same here. I thought it was Tess at first, but boy were we all in for a surprise. So we had an evil Lana, now an evil Chloe and I guess next week, Lois will get her chance too. :lol:

[Aloof]

As soon as I saw those gloves, I was like, wow, this is gonna be it.

I actually thought it was Tess! I would've have expected Chloe! :eek:

[oldblackmagick]

i don't think it's brainiac yet...i think that's the point. he gave her this power but now its corrupting her like many other FOTWs. She had the power to heal which is relativel harmless to everyone but herself but givin a new power that she can control to hurt people she has turned. I love this season so much and i love chloe. I think she could be a great villain for the next for eps...if we get no chlark then evil chloe is definitely a close second and im loving it:D

[tariksam]

That was WOW!!!!

And I do believe Chloe knew what she was doing? She seemed weird-out afterwards. Brainiac would not be weird-out.

That's waht ia m saying she look to much Chloe Brianic would be cold but Chloe is like" Did I do that?" kind of look

[Carolina87]

I have mixed feelings of Evil Chloe :/ i mean its great that she would literally do anything to protect Clarks secret but i know that if Clark ever finds out he would be totally anal about it :(

[AndiGirl]

I seriously doubt this is just Chloe "doing what she has to do."
In what universe would Chloe Sullivan take a life like that?? She wouldnt...

I think the reason she looked freaked out...is because she isnt fully gone yet. But she's definitely getting darker...and it scares her. To me, it looked like she's 60% brainiac and 40% Chloe. She's aware of her actions....but Brainiac is making a major impact.

There is just no way Chloe would have killed that guy otherwise.

BUT...I did love it! :lol: When I saw the black gloves I thought it was Tess....and when I saw Chloe, my jaw dropped. We all knew the black gloves meant it was over for the guy....I didnt expect Chloe at all!!

[minerva73]

I think that Chloe was willing to stop Sebastian/Wilson by using her Brainiac power, but I also think that she and Brainiac were fighting deep within her and Brainiac performed the killing scene (which is why she seemed to forceful when she put her hand on him). Then Brainiac left (or let Chloe regain control of her body) and that's why her face looked like that when she walked out the hospital room.


Same here. I thought it was Tess at first, but boy we're we all in for a surprise. So we had an evil Lana, now an evil Chloe and I guess next week, Lois will get her chance too. :lol:

Agreed. And Chloe ran straight up there with Lana Luthor.

What is it with evil SV girls and killing people who know Clark's secrets in hospitals? :D Lana did in Nemesis and Chloe did it tonight. Can't wait for Lois' chance.


I have mixed feelings of Evil Chloe :/ i mean its great that she would literally do anything to protect Clarks secret but i know that if Clark ever finds out he would be totally anal about it :(

But Chloe would try to explain herself about why she did that and Clark would also point fingers at the Brainiac side in her (because he knows and won't just ignore that). So I don't think that Clark would be that upset about it.

[roccanater]

That was awesome. I never thought something like that would happen this early. It was insane! Just plain awesome!

[Chlois Supporter]

That was not Chloe. That was without a doubt Brainiac. He pretty much said so the moment he talked about Brain's and computers, and how the difference is that the human brain, if it downloads to much info just shuts down. Then he grabbed the guy's arm. That was Brainiac. But why is he protecting Clark is beyond me.

[Dustmite]

WTF?

[Darth Pipes]

The ending rocked! Evil Chloe is going to work out well I think.

[Aries83]

To me, it looked like she's 60% brainiac and 40% Chloe. She's aware of her actions....but Brainiac is making a major impact.

I disagree. She has Brainiac's powers, but she's Chloe.

I realize at some point, at least from what I've read in the spoilers, that he takes over, but I'm not sure I like that. It would be a real shame if it turns that it was all Brainiac and she's left powerless at the end of the season.

He gave her these powers, she should learn to control them by season's end, not have them taken away just because Brainiac takes control of her later...

[green_arrow_girl358]

aw, no, not a bad chloe. she was one of the last characters not corrupted. they'll have to kill her off now-or she'll kill herself. think about it, they have to find a way to explain why she's not in the future superman's life

[colibri]

I think this was a big surprise and I'm really liking it. I thought it was Tess and then BAM! She was so evil but at the same time trying to protect Clark. Conflicted much? Cool scene.

[Blue Orange NY]

Word, I was like whoa!....at first due to the gloves I figured it was Tess but when the camera zoomed out, I was no way this chic is up to no go.....question is, was she doing this on her own free will? or was it Briany? I don't think it was the latter because what the hell would Brianiac care about Clark's secret going out, ? what do you guys think?:D

[myankskent]

That was shocking. Finally, something really obvious has happened that tells us that Brainiac is alive and well inside of her.

[dru-zod2501]

That was WOW!!!!

And I do believe Chloe knew what she was doing? She seemed weird-out afterwards. Brainiac would not be weird-out.
She's just like Red Clark now. At least until Bride, I think Chloe's gonna be aware of everything she does, but she's so totally seduced by the dark side she can't stop herself. She still doesn't even want to

[abbaspice1]

That was not Chloe. That was without a doubt Brainiac. He pretty much said so the moment he talked about Brain's and computers, and how the difference is that the human brain, if it downloads to much info just shuts down. Then he grabbed the guy's arm. That was Brainiac. But why is he protecting Clark is beyond me.

Yeah, but how do you explain the look on Chloe's face after the guy is killed? Brainiac wouldn't be upset like that? Plus, why would Brainiac protect Clark?

[Alexander III]

Ummm, kill Chloe off? That'll definitely upset the Chloe's fans!!

[RKryp]

I seriously doubt this is just Chloe "doing what she has to do."
In what universe would Chloe Sullivan take a life like that?? She wouldnt...

I think the reason she looked freaked out...is because she isnt fully gone yet. But she's definitely getting darker...and it scares her. To me, it looked like she's 60% brainiac and 40% Chloe. She's aware of her actions....but Brainiac is making a major impact.

There is just no way Chloe would have killed that guy otherwise.


Agreed, but also have to say ... in what universe would Brainiac care about Clark's secret getting out. I think the part-Brainiac, part-Chloe explanation that you state has to be it.

She still cares about things (like Clark's secret) that she cared about before. She's also willing to do things that show the Brainiac side...such as killing that guy.

[Dustmite]

That was shocking. Finally, something really obvious has happened that tells us that Brainiac is alive and well inside of her.

Really shocking. I thought SV had lost the ability to shock me like that. I haven't even seen the episode and I'm all bjmgkhkkjl!!!!

[tariksam]

That was not Chloe. That was without a doubt Brainiac. He pretty much said so the moment he talked about Brain's and computers, and how the difference is that the human brain, if it downloads to much info just shuts down. Then he grabbed the guy's arm. That was Brainiac. But why is he protecting Clark is beyond me.

Dude she knws about brain and computers she is super smart and she had a computer malfunction just earlier of course she would know this

[abbaspice1]

She's just like Red Clark now. At least until Bride, I think Chloe's gonna be aware of everything she does, but she's so totally seduced by the dark side she can't stop herself. She still doesn't even want to

How can someone be seduced when they don't want to?

One cannot be seduced unless a part of them (a BIG part of them) wants to be seduced.

[Blue Orange NY]

I hear ya', we all know her character isn't in Superman's live and that she was only created for the show.....so having a moment where something happens to her I can expect, in matter of fact if you read on the upcoming shows, I believe there's one that talks about a major character not surviving, so maybe it ties into Chloe not making it past this season


aw, no, not a bad chloe. she was one of the last characters not corrupted. they'll have to kill her off now-or she'll kill herself. think about it, they have to find a way to explain why she's not in the future superman's life

[Rhaspodel]

I should of known, Identity reveals a lot of interesting details to the characters: Clark with his identity crisis, that meteor freak who wants to kill Lois because of her finding out his identity, and then there's Chloe who is unawrely haboring Brainiac who uses her body to kill the man or was it the other way around...

After watching this episode, i feel I was the one who was having a identity crisis.

[Jory]

I seriously doubt this is just Chloe "doing what she has to do."
In what universe would Chloe Sullivan take a life like that?? She wouldnt...

I think the reason she looked freaked out...is because she isnt fully gone yet. But she's definitely getting darker...and it scares her. To me, it looked like she's 60% brainiac and 40% Chloe. She's aware of her actions....but Brainiac is making a major impact.

There is just no way Chloe would have killed that guy otherwise.

BUT...I did love it! :lol: When I saw the black gloves I thought it was Tess....and when I saw Chloe, my jaw dropped. We all knew the black gloves meant it was over for the guy....I didnt expect Chloe at all!!


I agree.

I think Chloe's losing control and Brainiac is gaining more control as time goes on. I think Chrainiac killed that guy, not because he knew about Clark, but because Chrainiac needed his power/mind. The scene in Isis set it up. The computers were crashing, and Chrainiac's speach about the human mind being delicate, and overloading, and crashing, implied(to me) that Brainiac stepped his control up, to survive in Chloe.

Chrainiac killing that guy had nothing to do with Clark, and everything to do with Brainiac's survival. I think Chloe's still in there, but her control/influence is slipping away fast. Some people have speculated, that Brainiac's influence is apparent whenever Chloe has been using a computer. This episode showed that Brainiac was weakening (the Isis computers failing) and he needed to rebute.

[Smallville6]

I love evooooool Chloe!
And that 'slow-mo' walk after was awsome. You could practically see her freaking out just from her facial expression! Gotta give AM her props here!

[myankskent]

Dude she knws about brain and computers she is super smart and she had a computer malfunction just earlier of course she would know this

I don't know tariksam. I'm not ready to say that Chloe would do this all on her own, but it could definitely play out that way.

[Dustmite]

After watching this episode, i feel I was the one who was having a identity crisis.

I'm just having a crisis.

[Alaska Young]

Okay, I have to step in here. Yes, it's nice to know Chloe will do anything to protect Clark's secret but does anyone else find it ironic how this played out?

Does anyone remember Chloe's little chit-chat with Lana at the end of Wrath where Lana told her that she would do anything for Clark and Chloe responded with 'even kill...what a lucky guy.' And now that Chloe has killed for Clark's secret, everyone thinks it's cool or they think it's brainiac.

Excuse me as I roll my eyes.

[Tigergal05]

It definitely reminded me of the scene with Lex in Onyx..
On another note-I have noticed a difference in Chloe's behavior for a while now..just bits and pieces. This one scene however, took the cake.
I have a question though..is Chloe really Brainiac? As in, has Brainiac been pulling an 'I am Chloe' act this whole time? Or is he just affecting her subconscious and telling her what to do? I am thinking the latter at the moment..considering what he did to Lana this would be my best guess.

[myankskent]

This episode showed that Brainiac was weakening (the Isis computers failing) and he needed to rebute.

Was it? I got the impression that the computers failed because Chloe was pushing the machines too fast for them to keep up with her. I don't know, I have to go back and look at that again.

[WickedJenn]

Here's what I think:

I think sometimes it's Chloe and sometimes it's Brainiac. With each episode, Brainiac gets stronger, it seems. Earlier in the episode? I think that was all Chloe. The end? I think it was Brainiac. The low tone and speech pattern and mannerisms screamed Brainiac to me. Now, the question is this--does she, like Davis, black out when this happens? Or is she aware of what's going on but can't do anything about it? Akin to Lana feeling pain when she was in her "coma" but not being able to control herself.

[piment]

I loved the slow mo walk away because if you watch her she makes the I did what I had to do but what will be my consequence, face. Plus did anyone get a weird feeling from the green eyes chloe left that dude with? Like she left a little bit of herself with him?

[krpto]

as soon as i saw the black gloves i was like uhoh hes not coming back to hurt anyone again.

[myankskent]

Okay, I have to step in here. Yes, it's nice to know Chloe will do anything to protect Clark's secret but does anyone else find it ironic how this played out?

Does anyone remember Chloe's little chit-chat with Lana at the end of Wrath where Lana told her that she would do anything for Clark and Chloe responded with 'even kill...what a lucky guy.' And now that Chloe has killed for Clark's secret, everyone thinks it's cool or they think it's brainiac.

Excuse me as I roll my eyes.


I'm going to field this post as a person who is not a huge Chloe fan. At this point, it's still way too early to say that Chloe actually did this herself because she was given Brainiac-like powers. I have to see more to determine if this is actually Brainiac or if Chloe is pulling a Lana from Wrath.

[Kel-El09]

I think that's why she did it, but she learned very quickly...It has something to do with when the computer malfunctioned at the Isis Foundation...
Oh yeah...I forgot about that...you're definitely right. She realized that it could only handle so much before it becomes overloaded!!

[minerva73]

The black gloves reminded me of Rogue from X-Men...


Now, the question is this--does she, like Davis, black out when this happens? Or is she aware of what's going on but can't do anything about it? Akin to Lana feeling pain when she was in her "coma" but not being able to control herself.

I think that she and Brainiac are fighting for "dominance" in her body. They both are trying to fight for control and Chloe had control when she walked in the room, but Brainiac took control as she killed Wilson (which is why she was willing to take the glove off so quickly), and finally Chloe regained control as she walked out (which is why she looked scared).

[WickedJenn]

I think that she and Brainiac are fighting for "dominance" in her body. They both are trying to fight for control and Chloe had control when she walked in the room, but Brainiac took control as she killed Wilson (which is why she was willing to take the glove off so quickly), and finally Chloe regained control as she walked out (which is why she looked scared).

That's a good theory too.

[Blue Orange NY]

bottom line this ending is mind boggling......I don't know what to make out of it and don't expect to get answers next week......Everything might come full cycle on the "Abyss" episode....plus I think If I read correctly in the episode while Clark tries to help her and ask Jor-El help there's a few things he has him leave out, might possibly the memory of Clark's secret...

[Firebunny]

Here's what I think:

I think sometimes it's Chloe and sometimes it's Brainiac. With each episode, Brainiac gets stronger, it seems. Earlier in the episode? I think that was all Chloe. The end? I think it was Brainiac. The low tone and speech pattern and mannerisms screamed Brainiac to me. Now, the question is this--does she, like Davis, black out when this happens? Or is she aware of what's going on but can't do anything about it? Akin to Lana feeling pain when she was in her "coma" but not being able to control herself. I got to agree with you. I think we've seen Brainiac influence Chloe, but this is the first time we've seen him control her.

And yeah, there was a fleeting look in her eyes as she walked away. It was like a second of panic. I have to wonder too if Chloe is aware of what she did under Brainiac's control. It was very well played and is the most memorable moment of the episode.

[tariksam]

I don't know tariksam. I'm not ready to say that Chloe would do this all on her own, but it could definitely play out that way.

Not saying she do it on her own but she was aware of it...you could see it in her face at the end

[theotherJane]

Everyone has a little bad side. Brainiac was able to tap into Chloe's bad side, which explains the look after the deed, ie. she didn't know she had that in her. She is very protective of Clark after all.

[Tigergal05]

Here's what I think:

I think sometimes it's Chloe and sometimes it's Brainiac. With each episode, Brainiac gets stronger, it seems. Earlier in the episode? I think that was all Chloe. The end? I think it was Brainiac. The low tone and speech pattern and mannerisms screamed Brainiac to me. Now, the question is this--does she, like Davis, black out when this happens? Or is she aware of what's going on but can't do anything about it? Akin to Lana feeling pain when she was in her "coma" but not being able to control herself.
I think you may be right. And this poses even more questions! Also- I just loved the foreshadowing in this episode (hinting of computer overloading and then crashing...)-wonderfully done.

[Jory]

Was it? I got the impression that the computers failed because Chloe was pushing the machines too fast for them to keep up with her. I don't know, I have to go back and look at that again.


That, and the scemne where Chrainiac was talking about the human mind being delicate, overloading, and crashing. I think that Chloe's mind (or Brainiac) were failing due toi the excess use of her brain, and Brainiac went into survival mode. I think he took over, but there still some of Chloe left until Abyss and Bride especially, then I think it's 100% Brainiac and that's why we see emotion when she's walking out of the room. Chloe was there, but not in control. IF any of that makes sense, lol.

[WickedJenn]

I got to agree with you. I think we've seen Brainiac influence Chloe, but this is the first time we've seen him control her.

And yeah, there was a fleeting look in her eyes as she walked away. It was like a second of panic. I have to wonder too if Chloe is aware of what she did under Brainiac's control. It was very well played and is the most memorable moment of the episode.

It was, to me, almost as if she had an "oh crap uh, what did I do there?" look on her face.

[oldblackmagick]

about the lana thing in wrath...it was cause no one was liking lana at the time so of course the first chance to jump on her we took it...only natural:p...but really its not ok that chloe did this but it's just an awesome thing in the show...i dont even care if she turns evil and dies...i will love her for this ep...CHLOE ROCKS!!!:D

[SupesComicFan]

I think it is a little of both. I think if Chloe wanted to have stopped Brainiac, she could have. He has not been shown to have that much power over her, yet. Also, I don't see how Brainiac would care about protecting Clark's secret. That doesn't make sense.

Let's look at what we know (without guessing).

Chloe can process information quickly. She isn't "mind' controlling the computers. She is using the keyboard.

That is all we know for sure. Any guesses as to how much Brainiac is controlling Chloe's actions, or if he is, is conjecture, so we have to assume she knew exactly what she was doing. I don't think Brainiac took over when she entered the room, because why, then, would she be wearing gloves in the first place. Also, not that it matters, but the FOTW could get memories through clothes, didn't he touch Tess through clothes? Not sure, I will have to watch again.

Personally, I think Chloe, even non-B infected, would kill for Clark. It isn't much of a stretch.

[tariksam]

Everyone has a little bad side. Brainiac was able to tap into Chloe's bad side, which explains the look after the deed, ie. she didn't know she had that in her. She is very protective of Clark after all.

Well she was the one suggesting killing Lex right?

[dru-zod2501]

How can someone be seduced when they don't want to?

One cannot be seduced unless a part of them (a BIG part of them) wants to be seduced.
I said she doesn't want to stop herself. The power feels good and she can do so much more than she could while "analog." I wouldn't be surprised if part of her has thought about killing to achieve an end before. Brainy just gave her the freedom to act it out

[WickedJenn]

That scene where the Isis comps crashed though...makes me think. Then "Chloe" gives that speech about computers crashing...

[minerva73]

Very true tariksam. So it's not like Chloe has just lost all credibility. She may not have wanted to get blood on her hands for killing Lex, but she was willing to step down a few steps to get Clark to do it.

[roccanater]

That was so cool.

[Ragius]

I don't think that was Brainiac at all, but just that Chloe had previously uncovered those abilities of hers and finally decided it was in Clark's best interest to use them to protect his secret.

[tariksam]

That scene where the Isis comps crashed though...makes me think. Then "Chloe" gives that speech about computers crashing...

ITA I already said that's why Chloe knew about the computer crashing

[myankskent]

Not saying she do it on her own but she was aware of it...you could see it in her face at the end

Well, that's true. I noticed that she took her gloves off only after he confirmed that he knew about Clark. That tells me that Chloe was probably going to leave him alone if he didn't know. That's what I'm stuck on. This is not a Brainiac-style move here, IMO.

[WickedJenn]

Good point myankskent.

Still, to me the way she spoke to him was not well, Chloe-like to me. I don't know, I guess I'll have to wait and see what else they do with this.

[hanemg]

Was it? I got the impression that the computers failed because Chloe was pushing the machines too fast for them to keep up with her. I don't know, I have to go back and look at that again.

That was the impression I got. That was also foreshadowing of the end. Chloe was pushing the computers too hard and they crashed. This was echoed in her speech at the end about how the human mind would do the same thing if given too much information.

She didn't need anything from that guy. She doesn't have the power to drain from someone else, but the guy (whatever his name was) could take information from his victims so that's what she did. She force fed him too much and his brain shut down.

Now, as to why she did it, I'm not sure. I don't think it was Brainiac, at least not directly. Brainiac has no reason to help Clark. In fact, it would be to his benefit if Clark were distracted by people knowing his secret. No, I think that part was Chloe, but I do think that Brainiac's presence is influening her emotional state. Perhaps making her a bit more cold blooded and "calculating" than she normally would be. Kind of a variation of the old "power corrupts" saying.

I'm not willing to write Chloe off completely as a villain because I think Brainiac being in her head has some influence, but I don't think Brainiac was "controlling" her. Perhaps his presense is "influencing" her, but not controlling. She's just being changed slowly by the fact that he's there.

Actually, it reminds me a bit of the character of Gary Mitchell from the Star Trek episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Gary was a good guy who gained powers that began bit by bit to corrupt the way he thought and viewed those around him. Gary wasn't really evil, but the power that he gained slowly corrupted him from the inside out.

[WickedJenn]

ITA I already said that's why Chloe knew about the computer crashing

Posts are coming fast here and I'm looking at lots of areas of the board :p

[AndiGirl]

Good point myankskent.

Still, to me the way she spoke to him was not well, Chloe-like to me. I don't know, I guess I'll have to wait and see what else they do with this.

ITA Jenn! (Beautiful avi btw...I like this one a lot better!! :) )

It didnt sound like Chloe at all. I agree with those who think Chloe was partially to blame. Of course she was. She is still aware of her actions. But going to such an extreme....isnt Chloe.

I look at it like this : "Would Chloe have done this if she wasnt infected by Brainiac?"
And there is no doubt in my mind that she wouldnt.

She is scared....she has these new dark powers, and doesnt know what to make of them. A killer knew her best friends deepest darkest secret...and because brainiac is in her, he may be stripping her inhibitions and morals. So she let that dark side of her loose.

But to say this is strictly Chloe going evil isnt true. Why after 8 years would she decide to kill someone who found out clarks secret?? :confused:

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

I absolutely loved the ending! That was my favorite part about this episode.

[miks]

Why after 8 years of Chlark saving people would she just kill someone? Remember the Lana scene last season? She would NEVER kill to protect Clark, she'd find another way. It's obvious it's brainiac.

[SnowBird]

Our sweet Chloe makes a cute evil chick...I don't see why Brainiac would want to protect Clark from being found out. Chloe would protect Clark's secret so I think she knew what she was doing. Chloe is going to the dark side with her Brainiac mind. This is going to be good to see how this plays out.

[tariksam]

well as said its not the first time, I know she didn't kill Lex but she was willing to do it, I mean not her but she did suggest to kill him to protect Clark....thing she did her

I am with who said Brianiac doesn't gain anything protecting Clark's secret

[hyped4lnc]

I think it was Chloe and not Brainaic. I mean the guy did try to kill her cousin too.

[AndiGirl]

well as said its not the first time, I know she iddn't kill Lex but she was willing to do it,

I actually think she wanted Clark to kill Lex. :lol: Chloe seems like the "all talk and no action" kind of girl.

[WickedJenn]

ITA Jenn! (Beautiful avi btw...I like this one a lot better!! :) )

It didnt sound like Chloe at all. I agree with those who think Chloe was partially to blame. Of course she was. She is still aware of her actions. But going to such an extreme....isnt Chloe.

I look at it like this : "Would Chloe have done this if she wasnt infected by Brainiac?"
And there is no doubt in my mind that she wouldnt.

She is scared....she has these new dark powers, and doesnt know what to make of them. A killer knew her best friends deepest darkest secret...and because brainiac is in her, he may be stripping her inhibitions and morals. So she let that dark side of her loose.

But to say this is strictly Chloe going evil isnt true. Why after 8 years would she decide to kill someone who found out clarks secret?? :confused:

Thank you! Yeah I had to Lois it up for this epi :D

It really reminded me, and I might get tomatoes thrown at me here (LOL), of Lana in "Wrath" a little, in this way--she got Clarks powers and then did her thing. However, it seemed like the powers...well they didn't MAKE her do the things she did, rather it kind of pushed her to a new level so to speak. Kind of like being very poor and winning the lottery, you know? You do things you normally couldn't, you get this sort of, well, "high" I'd guess. Perhaps it could be similar with Chloe?

If that makes sense :lol:

[RKryp]

Chrainiac killing that guy had nothing to do with Clark, and everything to do with Brainiac's survival.

I don't think this is the case...see quote immediately below.


Well, that's true. I noticed that she took her gloves off only after he confirmed that he knew about Clark. That tells me that Chloe was probably going to leave him alone if he didn't know.

I think this gets it about right:



Now, as to why she did it, I'm not sure. I don't think it was Brainiac, at least not directly. Brainiac has no reason to help Clark. In fact, it would be to his benefit if Clark were distracted by people knowing his secret. No, I think that part was Chloe, but I do think that Brainiac's presence is influening her emotional state. Perhaps making her a bit more cold blooded and "calculating" than she normally would be. Kind of a variation of the old "power corrupts" saying.


What we have, at least at the moment, is not "Chloe in control" or "Brainiac in control" but a person who is now a fusion of the old Chloe and Brainiac.

[AndiGirl]

I think it was Chloe and not Brainaic. I mean the guy did try to kill her cousin too.

But, IMO....it's more of the way she did it then anything.

She walks in with her gloves...asks him what he knows, and once he says "lets just say he shouldnt have touched me." It's like this deep dark thing came out of Chloe..

The way she walks up to him...and just has this evil look on her face.

Maybe I could say "yes, it was Chloe." If she walked up to the guy...maybe bumbling about being sorry....but this is just the way it has to be.....then she killed him.

But she was confident, cocky...and had no remorse in her eyes when she touched him.

Thats not Chloe Sullivan.

[oldblackmagick]

I actually think she wanted Clark to kill Lex. :lol: Chloe seems like the "all talk and no action" kind of girl.

well if she was that kind of girl she has just stepped up her A-Game cause she was very hands on in the mind crash killing of that guy...she looked rough.

[Chlois Supporter]

Brainiac Has every reason to protect Clark. He has no superpowers in a human body. Just his brain. In order to fight Clark he needs power. Alot of power, and the only power he can get a hold of resides in DUM DUM DUM The Fortress Crystal. Brainiac is using Clark, through Chloe, to get a hold of that Crystal, so that he can build the fortress and get back his powers.

Remember what he said to Clark way back when, "Only you can effect the Fortress." its because he built the thing. If Brainiac however, was to build it, he would have that power as well. Whoever builds the Fortress, is the only one who can effect it. But Brainiac can't get the Crystal without helping Clark, and if Clark's secret were to get out, Brainiac couldn't get his powers back.

[Clarks Blue Eyed Angel]

Who said Chloe's evil? She was protecting Clark, and she only hurt a very bad guy. A murderer. A guy who even tried to murder her cousin.

I'm not saying it's right... you can't go around choosing to hurt people and justifying that they're bad so they "deserve" it. But Clark's hurt and even killed bad guys before, and I don't see anyone saying "bring on evil Clark".

We don't even know if the guy died. He might recover and just lose his memory forever. I don't see how that's worse than a murderer being put to death by the state.

[Firebunny]

But, IMO....it's more of the way she did it then anything.

She walks in with her gloves...asks him what he knows, and once he says "lets just say he shouldnt have touched me." It's like this deep dark thing came out of Chloe..

The way she walks up to him...and just has this evil look on her face.

Maybe I could say "yes, it was Chloe." If she walked up to the guy...maybe bumbling about being sorry....but this is just the way it has to be.....then she killed him.

But she was confident, cocky...and had no remorse in her eyes when she touched him.

Thats not Chloe Sullivan. I agree. That wasn't Chloe in the last scene. The question is why would Brainiac want to protect Clark?

I think he needs Clark for something.

[WickedJenn]

Brainiac Has every reason to protect Clark. He has no superpowers in a human body. Just his brain. In order to fight Clark he needs power. Alot of power, and the only power he can get a hold of resides in DUM DUM DUM The Fortress Crystal. Brainiac is using Clark, through Chloe, to get a hold of that Crystal, so that he can build the fortress and get back his powers.

Remember what he said to Clark way back when, "Only you can effect the Fortress." its because he built the thing. If Brainiac however, was to build it, he would have that power as well. Whoever builds the Fortress, is the only one who can effect it. But Brainiac can't get the Crystal without helping Clark, and if Clark's secret were to get out, Brainiac couldn't get his powers back.

Ah, very very good theory there.

[Jade4813]

Personally, I tend to agree with the people who say it's a little bit Chloe and a little bit Brainiac. Chloe's still mostly in control of herself, pursuing her own motives, but Brainiac is influencing her - corrupting her. She only went after Sebastian when she discovered he knew about Clark, which makes me think that this is Chloe and not Brainiac who's controlling her. But Brainiac influenced her enough to go over that line and think killing him was okay.

Though, honestly, that's a tough call because Chloe last year said killing was okay, too. So maybe it didn't take that much corruption. :\ Sigh. I hate that they did that last year.

Anyway, I think of it as sort of being like Boromir in LotR. He was corrupted by his desire for the ring and its influence, to be sure, but his desire to save Gondor was his own. We'll see if I'm reading the situation completely, but I don't think it's 100% Chloe (I hope not, at least) OR 100% Brainiac. It's a mix of both here. Chloe had the desire to protect Clark's secret at any cost; Brainiac just maybe helped her embrace the "any" in the "any cost."

[WickedJenn]

Personally, I tend to agree with the people who say it's a little bit Chloe and a little bit Brainiac. Chloe's still mostly in control of herself, pursuing her own motives, but Brainiac is influencing her - corrupting her. She only went after Sebastian when she discovered he knew about Clark, which makes me think that this is Chloe and not Brainiac who's controlling her. But Brainiac influenced her enough to go over that line and think killing him was okay.

Though, honestly, that's a tough call because Chloe last year said killing was okay, too. So maybe it didn't take that much corruption. :\ Sigh. I hate that they did that last year.

Anyway, I think of it as sort of being like Boromir in LotR. He was corrupted by his desire for the ring and its influence, to be sure, but his desire to save Gondor was his own. We'll see if I'm reading the situation completely, but I don't think it's 100% Chloe (I hope not, at least) OR 100% Brainiac. It's a mix of both here. Chloe had the desire to protect Clark's secret at any cost; Brainiac just maybe helped her embrace the "any" in the "any cost."

Pretty much exactly how I feel Jade. Good post!

[Dustmite]

I agree. That wasn't Chloe in the last scene.

There's no way it could be. No way!

[LimeArrow]

Scratch that, Chloe's too sweet to kill.

[ForzaItalia]

Even if Chloe had the power to kill someone like that, I don't think she could do it and just walk away like nothing happened. She's too good a person... Remember, Brainiac is a shape-shifter. So that might have really been Brainiac.

[SalvadorianGirl]

It was definitely all Brainiac and I keen it to Brainiac needing Clark at the moment for the whole Fortress bit and the same old villian mantra of "Me and only me can destroy the great one."

He wants to be the one to take credit for destroying Kal-El.

[Ayanne]

It's Brainiac. This is obviously the start of Chloe losing time.

[Dustmite]

Even if Chloe had the power to kill someone like that, I don't think she could do it and just walk away like nothing happened. She's too good a person... Remember, Brainiac is a shape-shifter. So that might have really been Brainiac.

Exactly.

[LuckyLois]

I think it is Brianiac getting stronger in Chloe, remember he is a computer who keeps re-booting until he gets it right. I also think it was Chloe/Brainiac who sent Tess the Email. If you saw the coming attractions, Clark and Lois get sent to the PZ from the crystal, and that is what Brianiac wants..

I'm not sure what he needed from that guy Sebastian, but that scene showed how Chloe is being manipulated, in my opinion. I don't think she really knows what she was doing.

[AndiGirl]

Personally, I tend to agree with the people who say it's a little bit Chloe and a little bit Brainiac. Chloe's still mostly in control of herself, pursuing her own motives, but Brainiac is influencing her - corrupting her. She only went after Sebastian when she discovered he knew about Clark, which makes me think that this is Chloe and not Brainiac who's controlling her. But Brainiac influenced her enough to go over that line and think killing him was okay.

Though, honestly, that's a tough call because Chloe last year said killing was okay, too. So maybe it didn't take that much corruption. :\ Sigh. I hate that they did that last year.

Anyway, I think of it as sort of being like Boromir in LotR. He was corrupted by his desire for the ring and its influence, to be sure, but his desire to save Gondor was his own. We'll see if I'm reading the situation completely, but I don't think it's 100% Chloe (I hope not, at least) OR 100% Brainiac. It's a mix of both here. Chloe had the desire to protect Clark's secret at any cost; Brainiac just maybe helped her embrace the "any" in the "any cost."


ITA Jade!! :)
I think Chloe has always been all talk when it comes to murdering for the sake of the greater good. Now with Brainiac in her...she's walking on the dark side.

[Dustmite]

Quick question, did AM play that scene well? I can imagine that she would enjoy it!


I think it is Brianiac getting stronger in Chloe, remember he is a computer who keeps re-booting until he gets it right. I also think it was Chloe/Brainiac who sent Tess the Email. If you saw the coming attractions, Clark and Lois get sent to the PZ from the crystal, and that is what Brianiac wants..

I'm not sure what he needed from that guy Sebastian, but that scene showed how Chloe is being manipulated, in my opinion. I don't think she really knows what she was doing.

That makes a lot of sense.

[oldblackmagick]

Who said Chloe's evil? She was protecting Clark, and she only hurt a very bad guy. A murderer. A guy who even tried to murder her cousin.

I'm not saying it's right... you can't go around choosing to hurt people and justifying that they're bad so they "deserve" it. But Clark's hurt and even killed bad guys before, and I don't see anyone saying "bring on evil Clark".

We don't even know if the guy died. He might recover and just lose his memory forever. I don't see how that's worse than a murderer being put to death by the state.

he was flatlining when she walked out and to be honest it would cheapen it if he lived...this is the amazing stories that will save this show...they need to shake some things up...nothing ever stays nice and happy in tv land for long:p

[WickedJenn]

Quick question, did AM play that scene well? I can imagine that she would enjoy it!

Most definitely, she did excellent with it IMO. I've always thought she was good but seeing her in that scene really showcased her talents, I thought :)

[OliviaB]

So she's being mind-raped on a daily basis right up to the point that she's killing people because Brainiac is controlling her. That's ****ing awful. How much more are they going to heap on her?

That last scene was our last glimpse of the real Chloe, I think. Brainiac is in or close to full control of her.




Great forshawdowing of whats to come....AM can pull off evil really well, who knew!?

Yes, she does Pod!Chloe, mind-raped Chloe, doormat Chloe, and now Chloiac real well. It's great they got her back for the good stuff, isn't it?

Gag.

[lillie_poo_pod]

I'm still in shock after an hour. The one thing I didn't want to happen was Chloe going around killing people even if its Brainiac. I don't think she'd be able to live with herself if she knew what happened while Brainiac was taking control of her body. It was a great scene and AM played the hell out of it, but I'm not too sure I like where this is going.

There is no way Chloe was in control in that scene. That was all Brainiac.

[Dustmite]

Most definitely, she did excellent with it IMO. I've always thought she was good but seeing her in that scene really showcased her talents, I thought :)

Thank you for answering :)

I always thought AM could rock any scene given to her.


I don't think she'd be able to live with herself if she knew what happened while Brainiac was taking control of her body.

Based on what we know of an upcoming ep, maybe she won't have to.

[davidbrenton]

I honestly just think it's Chloe with power. She is making tough calls but she's in control. She seemed more self-possessed than Braniac possessed.

[myankskent]

Brainiac Has every reason to protect Clark. He has no superpowers in a human body. Just his brain. In order to fight Clark he needs power. Alot of power, and the only power he can get a hold of resides in DUM DUM DUM The Fortress Crystal. Brainiac is using Clark, through Chloe, to get a hold of that Crystal, so that he can build the fortress and get back his powers.


If that's the case, then why hasn't Brainiac attempted to find the crystal through Chloe? When Chloe found out from Clark that Tess had the crystal, she went to Tess because Clark needed it to cure her Brainiac infection and Tess said that it was stolen. So you'd think that Brainiac would be trying to find out who has the crystal 24/7 if he's going to kill a meteor freak because he knows Clark's secret.

[WickedJenn]

Thank you for answering :)

I always thought AM could rock any scene given to her.

Sure!

A big reason I like this storyline for Chloe is seeing the great dynamics of AM's acting :)

[miks]

I think it was Chloe going to the hospital to talk to Sebastian but then once she started talking computers it was Brainiac. I think her look at the end was like "what the hell just happened? I was talking to that guy about to see if he knows Clark's secret and now I'm in the hallway?" That's how I took it.

[AndiGirl]

If that's the case, then why hasn't Brainiac attempted to find the crystal through Chloe? When Chloe found out from Clark that Tess had the crystal, she went to Tess because Clark needed it to cure her Brainiac infection and Tess said that it was stolen. So you'd think that Brainiac would be trying to find out who has the crystal 24/7 if he's going to kill a meteor freak because he knows Clark's secret.

Well...I dont have a solid theory or anything, but maybe Chloe is "x?"
I thought it was incredibly weird Tess didnt send the guy after Chloe. I would think she would be at the top of Tess's list. Since Tess recruited her to try and get into the crystal

I also noticed...when Chloe touched the guy before she killed him...there was a moment before it started to work that he looked shocked. Maybe he saw that it was her??

I guess it wouldnt surprise me if she took it....defintiely a twist!

[Chulance]

What are her powers's now?

[SalvadorianGirl]

So you'd think that Brainiac would be trying to find out who has the crystal 24/7 if he's going to kill a meteor freak because he knows Clark's secret.

Personally I think Brainiac already has the crystal. Who else this season could possibly tamper with the crystal that sends both Clark and Lois to the PZ?

[Mischael12]

Its not evil Chloe, we through that word around too much. But its a ruthless Chloe thats what that was, and its something we have never seen her done before, and Allison Mack pulled it off perfectly. I kinda assumed thats what she was going to do when she showed up black gloves.

Nothing good ever comes out of people wearing black gloves.

[LimeArrow]

Personally I think Brainiac already has the crystal. Who else this season could possibly tamper with the crystal that sends both Clark and Lois to the PZ?

Jor-El.

[minerva73]

Remember, Brainiac is a shape-shifter. So that might have really been Brainiac.

But Brainiac has always had some sort of body when he performed his shape-shifting. In Persona when he posed as Lionel in LuthorCorp, he was acting from his old Brainiac/Milton Fine body. In Arctic, he was also most likely acting from his Brainiac body too since he was scene in the electrical plant and Kara has her body next week.

Now all Brainiac has is his info within Chloe just like he did with Lana (except she's not catatonic).

[smallvillefreak24]

SOOOOOO AWSOME!! FREAKIN AMAZING EVIL CHLOE IS SA-WEET
i love it cuz she's not like cold blooded evil she did it for clark and was amazing and she's obviously brainiac corrupted (not controlled) so its not like shes unredeemable from purity- awsome

[myankskent]

I don't know how it's possible for Chloe to be "X". She didn't know about the crystal until the end of "Identity", after it was stolen from Tess.

[kris10]

doesnt that mean she can control computers or electronic gadgets with her touch...hmmmmmmmm and i dont think she was in control in the room she gets it back during the walk of shame...it was FREAKING awesome!

[Dustmite]

Was the guy actually dead at the end or were his brains just fried??

[oldblackmagick]

Jor-El.

he does always seem to be butting in where he doesn't belong...but hey at least they get to bring Kara home...or kill her off or whatever...why is she going to be gone after this ep again??? does anyone know??

[AndiGirl]

Was the guy actually dead at the end or were his brains just fried??

Both I think? :\. By frying his brain she killed him...

[kris10]

I don't know how it's possible for Chloe to be "X". She didn't know about the crystal until the end of "Identity", after it was stolen from Tess.

why not she has brainiacs knowledge? ALL of it:eek:
id put money on it that its her but hey with the twists so far idk

[SalvadorianGirl]

I don't know how it's possible for Chloe to be "X". She didn't know about the crystal until the end of "Identity", after it was stolen from Tess.

It's not Chloe as X, it's Chloaic as X. Brainaic as the most to gain from having the crystal in his possession.

Now of course this could all change if, by some miracle MR comes backs, than X becomes Lex.

But at the time being, Brainiac is the most likely choice.

[Mischael12]

I still love how she was Cold, but as she walks away you could see the humanity slipping back in. But there was some good foreshadowing for that, considering how her computer crashed earlier.

[Dustmite]

Both I think? :\. By frying his brain she killed him...

Yeah. I just realized how dumb that question was.

[Poyntz]

Just a thought. Do you think brainic could of got some sort of info from that guys brain to will give him a way to use the memory powers to go with abyss?

I am not sure how i feel about them having Chloe kill that guy. I'm hoping they explain it better later.

[AndiGirl]

Yeah. I just realized how dumb that question was.

It wasnt dumb! It could just leave him a vegetable if she didnt over do it. But she just completely fried him.

[xrayvision]

Me too!! :lol: I definitely squeeled!!!

So does this mean Brainiac has been in charge for awhile now, and he's just putting on an act??? It certainly looks that way! :eek:

Great forshawdowing of whats to come....AM can pull off evil really well, who knew!?

I highly doubt that was Brainiac who made her do it. I think he's corrupting her and that she did it herself. Brainiac would have no reason to want to protect Clark's secret.

Chloe's evil & it's just too sweet!!

[AndiGirl]

Just a thought. Do you think brainic could of got some sort of info from that guys brain to will give him a way to use the memory powers to go with abyss?

I am not sure how i feel about them having Chloe kill that guy. I'm hoping they explain it better later.

:eek: I never thought of that! Good theory!

[Liquid-Prince]

What can I say, she was destined to be a villain. :p
But its good she killed him, because he knew Clark's past and secret.

She didn't kill him, she made him a vegetable. She could probably reverse it too, since Braniac could totally reverse it.

[myankskent]

It's not Chloe as X, it's Chloaic as X.


Same thing, assuming that Brainiac is inside of Chloe. He would need to know where that crystal was in order to take it from Tess and I don't see how that is possible.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Brainiac would have no reason to want to protect Clark's secret.

I also see Brainiac wanting to bid his time with Clark and truly destroy Clark and unleashing the secret might at this time not be the best choice.

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He would need to know where that crystal was in order to take it from Tess and I don't see how that is possible.

Does Brainiac not have knowledge of all things kryptonian? Did the crystal not make sound when Clark put it together in Commenment?

I just don't see anybody else at this point in the story more connected to the crystal than Brainiac.

They can't pin it on Lex because there's no set in stone declaration that MR is coming back.

I could see it as Jor-EL but at this point Clark is pretty much on course with following the destiny Jor-El laid out for him. So it wouldn't make sense for him either.

[kris10]

yea i dont think hes at full capacity at least that would be the logical thing to bide his time as he powers up..ps3 said that she used up her powers healing herself and used em up and weakening him....prolly y its taking awhile....maybe
this the best twist ever..wowo they did keep this one hush...well we knew it was coming but it was soooo unexpected....SNAP

[xrayvision]

I don't know how it's possible for Chloe to be "X". She didn't know about the crystal until the end of "Identity", after it was stolen from Tess.

If Brainiac can take total control of Chloe's body and doesn't leave any memories of what he did while in complete control, then she could have easily done it.

It would go like this:

1. The crystal sent out the beacon
2. The Brainiac part of Chloeiac was immediately alerted of it & its location and took control of Chloe
3. Chloeiac then disabled Tess' guards (using those powers we saw) after Tess showed it to Clark and made off with the crystal
4. Chloe re-assumed control of her body without any knowledge of taking the crystal (or maybe she does know based on her evil intentions being revealed in this episode)

[AndiGirl]

If Brainiac can take total control of Chloe's body and doesn't leave any memories of what he did while in complete control, then she could have easily done it.

It would go like this:

1. The crystal sent out the beacon
2. The Brainiac part of Chloeiac was immediately alerted of it and took control of Chloe
3. Chloeiac then disabled Tess' guards (using those powers we saw) after Tess showed it to Clark and made off with the crystal
4. Chloe re-assumed control of her body without any knowledge of taking the crystal (or maybe she does know based on her evil intentions being revealed in this episode)

ITA....

This could be the answer to all of this... If Brainiac takes control without Chloes knowledge..that would explain her confused look at the end of tonights episode.

I dont know if this is the case...but I can see it playing out like that. I dont think we should rule out chloe having the crystal.

[myankskent]

Does Brainiac not have knowledge of all things kryptonian? Did the crystal not make sound when Clark put it together in Commenment?


The last stone made that sound after Clark put the second one in the cave. I don't think that the crystal itself would make a sound, especially if it is not activated.

[SpiritedDiva]

I would have to go with Brainiac, here. Allison, I think did a fine job of subtley portraying
Braniac. Her mannersims and way of speaking were clearly Braniac. I think Chloe came back on her walk down the hall. the 'what have I done' look.

[xrayvision]

By the way, what does ITA mean?

[SteveS]

I will watch the ending again to see if the guy was killed as I just thought his brain was fried.

[davidbrenton]

Her brain is computer-like, and becoming very logic oriented. The most logical action was to kill him, she had no problem doing this given her increased intelligence/logic oriented thought patterns. It's not Brainiac, still Chloe just infused with logically as opposed to morally based actions.

She may start to feel things less and less because she is so logically driven. Or, become overwhelmed with the lack of control she has over her mind and it's obsession to accomplish things as efficiently as possible.

[WickedJenn]

By the way, what does ITA mean?

"I Totally Agree" :)

[hanemg]

She didn't kill him, she made him a vegetable. She could probably reverse it too, since Braniac could totally reverse it.

There at the end they were calling a "Code Blue" overhead at the hospital. That's not just brain dead, that's dead dead. Cardiac arrest. Unless the show runners used it incorrectly. When his brain "crashed" it shut down completely like a computer and as the brain controls all systems in the body this includes breathing, heart beat, kidney functions, etc.

[xrayvision]

"I Totally Agree" :)

Thanks Jenn. What about FTW? I've seen that a lot too and never picked up what it meant.

[AndiGirl]

"I Totally Agree" :)

Yep :)

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Thanks Jenn. What about FTW? I've seen that a lot too and never picked up what it meant.

I know what WTF means...but I cant repeat it on the boards...I have no clue what FTW means. :\

[Poyntz]

isnt FTW Freak of The Week?

[xrayvision]

Her brain is computer-like, and becoming very logic oriented. The most logical action was to kill him, she had no problem doing this given her increased intelligence/logic oriented thought patterns. It's not Brainiac, still Chloe just infused with logically as opposed to morally based actions.

She may start to feel things less and less because she is so logically driven. Or, become overwhelmed with the lack of control she has over her mind and it's obsession to accomplish things as efficiently as possible.

I like this explanation too. This means she would be losing her humanity, like Davis. Maybe that's why she's so attracted to him.

[Cyn]

How can someone be seduced when they don't want to?

One cannot be seduced unless a part of them (a BIG part of them) wants to be seduced.

At this point, I think Chloe is more of a human/computer hybrid...AKA ChloeIAC. BrainIAC is strictly a computer which follows its most recent Evil Zod programming. I think that ChloeIAC is ruled by logic as well as emotions. It will be interesting to see her inner struggle as well as how her friends and family deal with her less than human actions. I find this fascinating. Finally, there is a real role for Chloe other than Chloe Sue. ChloeIAC ROCKS!

[xrayvision]

isnt FTW Freak of The Week?

That's FOTW. I've known about that one for a while.

[oldblackmagick]

her lack of emotion saved her and jimmy in commitment...i think she was able to fool the machine now. God i love this season and this show...the twists are starting to be as good as heroes:D:D

[Mischael12]

I don't think Brainiac is taking control like that. I think Chloe knew what she was doing, but she's thinking logically now. Remember Brainiac isn't evil, he's a computer due to that there is no moral or anything, its just obtain knowledge and do what is necessary. I think that was what is occurring to Chloe, the logical way to protect Clark was to eliminate the threat.

[xrayvision]

her lack of emotion saved her and jimmy in commitment...i think she was able to fool the machine now. God i love this season and this show...the twists are starting to be as good as heroes:D:D

I don't doubt it a bit now. It completely explains how she was "into Jimmy" in Committed and then all over Davis in Prey.

[AndiGirl]

her lack of emotion saved her and jimmy in commitment...i think she was able to fool the machine now. God i love this season and this show...the twists are starting to be as good as heroes:D:D

Seriously!! You never know what you're going to get with this show anymore!! :lol:

At the end...before Chloes scene...I was thinking "eh, that was a pretty good episode. Jimmy kicked butt..."

Then they throw that scene in, and totally turn the episode on its head! Brilliant!! :D

[Poyntz]

oh right doh NM LOL

[SalvadorianGirl]

FTW means For The Win.

[minerva73]

God i love this season and this show...the twists are starting to be as good as heroes:D:D

I agree. The ending twists at the end of the episodes this season (and some of last season) are really awesome. You get this vibe about a character and then TPTB just has a scene which keeps the viewers wondering and coming up with theories until next week.

This Chloe example this week was another example of it. :D

[Shadow116]

Chloeiac strikes! I just wish she had the comic book Brainiac forehead markings, pale green "skin", and had used the Brainiac finger attack.

[oldblackmagick]

i'm just glad that chloe has a seperate storyline and not just a sidekick to someone else's...even though i love chloe and clark working together i think that i like the new way they are going even more. I like when i can't exactly predict how the show is going to go...it makes it all the more interesting to me...i love looking for hidden clues and subtext...i got that crazy bug from watching buffy...the master or hint dropy goodness:p

[MAR-MAR]

Awesome, that last scene made the episode unforgettable. Allison Mack is getting a chance to show her range of acting ability. She pulled it off wonderfully.

[4Clana]

I love Evil Chloe, I hope they keep her this way!

[oldblackmagick]

well for a couple eps anyways...cause if she's evil she would have to die...only one permanantely evil chick per season and tess has that role:p

[wolverine316]

So Chloe is a murderer. I guess she won't be looking down on Lana anymore.

[Chris24601]

Yeah, but how do you explain the look on Chloe's face after the guy is killed? Brainiac wouldn't be upset like that?
I think that was Chloe suddenly becoming Chloe again as she was out in the hallway and not really getting why she's there. The coldly clinical way Chloe described the brain as a computer and the disdain for the frailty of the human mind reeked of Brainiac doing the talking there.


Now, the question is this--does she, like Davis, black out when this happens?
"I thought for sure I'd closed that."
-Chloe "Toxic"

It's been subtle, but we have been clued into Chloe not remembering things properly and I'm pretty sure that's because Brainiac has been able to exert control over her mind and she doesn't remember it.


I don't know how it's possible for Chloe to be "X". She didn't know about the crystal until the end of "Identity", after it was stolen from Tess.
To the contrary... Chloe is one of the few people who COULD be "X." Clark tells Chloe about the crystal and Chloe realizes that the crystal is the hard-drive that Tess wanted her to break in to. Later she goes to see Tess and learns the crystal has been stolen.

The fact that the crystal apparently turns up again next week and sends Clark to the Phantom Zone when it really shouldn't be doing so suggests to me that it's been tampered with and there literally is only one person who could possibly do that. The fact that they'll have this happen right after they show a very Out Of Character Chloe I think means they intend to show that Brainiac is able to take over Chloe for periods of time to accomplish some larger goal that's ultimately leading up to "Abyss" through "Legion" where Brainiac takes full control of Chloe.

[/quote] Plus, why would Brainiac protect Clark? [/quote]
I think protection is relative. Because any inquiry into Clark is going to eventually spread to involve Chloe and Brainiac in her head. It's also possible that he needs Clark for some purpose in his latest scheme (as someone else suggested, Clark is the only person who can command the Fortress... and I doubt Brainiac's plans involve staying in a powerless human female).

All told I think they've been setting up Brainiac slowly taking control of Chloe all season long and this is just the latest stage.

[oldblackmagick]

^^^Nah she still will...when lana comes back she is gonna have short hair and everyone knows that the girl with the short hair is never noticed by clark...so chloe will still win:p

[TWNik]

The Brainiac reveal at the end of tonight's episode - showing his control of Chloe.

Did you see it coming?

[Aloof]

Not really, to be honest!

[WickedJenn]

I think that was Chloe suddenly becoming Chloe again as she was out in the hallway and not really getting why she's there. The coldly clinical way Chloe described the brain as a computer and the disdain for the frailty of the human mind reeked of Brainiac doing the talking there.


"I thought for sure I'd closed that."
-Chloe "Toxic"

It's been subtle, but we have been clued into Chloe not remembering things properly and I'm pretty sure that's because Brainiac has been able to exert control over her mind and she doesn't remember it.


To the contrary... Chloe is one of the few people who COULD be "X." Clark tells Chloe about the crystal and Chloe realizes that the crystal is the hard-drive that Tess wanted her to break in to. Later she goes to see Tess and learns the crystal has been stolen.

The fact that the crystal apparently turns up again next week and sends Clark to the Phantom Zone when it really shouldn't be doing so suggests to me that it's been tampered with and there literally is only one person who could possibly do that. The fact that they'll have this happen right after they show a very Out Of Character Chloe I think means they intend to show that Brainiac is able to take over Chloe for periods of time to accomplish some larger goal that's ultimately leading up to "Abyss" through "Legion" where Brainiac takes full control of Chloe.


Plus, why would Brainiac protect Clark?
I think protection is relative. Because any inquiry into Clark is going to eventually spread to involve Chloe and Brainiac in her head. It's also possible that he needs Clark for some purpose in his latest scheme (as someone else suggested, Clark is the only person who can command the Fortress... and I doubt Brainiac's plans involve staying in a powerless human female).

All told I think they've been setting up Brainiac slowly taking control of Chloe all season long and this is just the latest stage.

Excellent post.

[kal-el_Girl]

I guess she's willing to kill in order to protect Clark's secret.

yes, I was so shocked by this that I still cannot process it, and it makes you think... how many more times has chloe done that (kill) for clark, at least in this season,

If that isn't love I don't know what is then. :eek:

[Alaska Young]

So if that really was Brainiac who killed that guy, does this mean all the Chimmy we've had this season has been a lie? And when does Chloe free herself from Brainiac?

[unfocused]

I guessed Chloe was going to kill Sebastian as soon as I seen her in the black gloves. How did people miss this? :\

It was obvious even before the scene that Sebastian would be terminated someway or somehow. But then again, maybe it was just obvious for me... because I was waiting for another villain to come and find out the secret, then get killed afterward.

[svtwamedfan05]

Yep saw it coming from a mile away

[Clarks Blue Eyed Angel]

Was it? I got the impression that the computers failed because Chloe was pushing the machines too fast for them to keep up with her. I don't know, I have to go back and look at that again.

I agree. The computer crashed and had to reboot because she was pushing them too hard, trying to upload more info than they were capable of (i.e., all the info in her head) and I think that's what gave her the idea to upload all of her information into Memory Guy's head. His touch had the ability to take someone's memories, and Chloe's memories were full of information... way more than his own brain could handle.

I don't think that that was Brainiac in that scene. I think Chloe simply took desperate measures to protect Clark. Was it wrong? Maybe. Did she cross a line? Definitely. But I don't think for a second that she didn't do it for the best of intentions... protecting someone she loves and knows is more important than anything. Chloe has always known that Clark's destiny is much more than being a farm boy or a reporter. She knows how important he is to the world, and she did what she probably felt was the only thing she could do to ensure his safety.

And again, I ask why everyone is jumping to conclusions that she killed this guy? The nurse said he was having a stroke. He might end up in a coma, or brain-fried like Lionel when he was taken over by the crystal, but he's not dead until they say it on the show.

And as for it being Brainiac just because Chloe was talking about the human brain being like a computer... why does that mean it's Brainiac? Like I said, Chloe could have easily gotten the idea of overloading computers when her own computer crashed, and as her brain really is like a human computer now, it's not a leap for her to think in the context of human brain = computer.

I also think it's important to remember, that whatever was so special about Chloe's brain, it was like that before Brainiac tried to take over her mind last season. She might not have had the power to download so much into her head before that, but she was already special. Remember Brainiac reacted with shock and even fear when he tried to get into her head. "What the hell are you?!"

And maybe Brainiac is buried in there someone, trying to get out. But I don't think that was him tonight. And I definitely don't want to see Chloe go "evil". She's the one decent, moral character on this show (although Clark has really started to redeem himself of his selfish behavior of earlier seasons). And I'm not going to condemn her just yet. Yes, the wrong thing done for the right reason is still the wrong thing... but it speaks of a conscience and as long as Chloe has that (which I think we saw at the end when she walked away), there's still hope for her.

[xrayvision]

I guessed Chloe was going to kill Sebastian as soon as I seen her in the black gloves. How did people miss this? :\

It was obvious even before the scene that Sebastian would be terminated someway or somehow. But then again, maybe it was just obvious for me... because I was waiting for another villain to come and find out the secret, then get killed afterward.

Yeah, as soon as I saw those gloves, I was thinking she's gonna kill him. I knew she would take them off and then touch him.

[tariksam]

I agree. The computer crashed and had to reboot because she was pushing them too hard, trying to upload more info than they were capable of (i.e., all the info in her head) and I think that's what gave her the idea to upload all of her information into Memory Guy's head. His touch had the ability to take someone's memories, and Chloe's memories were full of information... way more than his own brain could handle.

I don't think that that was Brainiac in that scene. I think Chloe simply took desperate measures to protect Clark. Was it wrong? Maybe. Did she cross a line? Definitely. But I don't think for a second that she didn't do it for the best of intentions... protecting someone she loves and knows is more important than anything. Chloe has always known that Clark's destiny is much more than being a farm boy or a reporter. She knows how important he is to the world, and she did what she probably felt was the only thing she could do to ensure his safety.

And again, I ask why everyone is jumping to conclusions that she killed this guy? The nurse said he was having a stroke. He might end up in a coma, or brain-fried like Lionel when he was taken over by the crystal, but he's not dead until they say it on the show.

And as for it being Brainiac just because Chloe was talking about the human brain being like a computer... why does that mean it's Brainiac? Like I said, Chloe could have easily gotten the idea of overloading computers when her own computer crashed, and as her brain really is like a human computer now, it's not a leap for her to think in the context of human brain = computer.

I also think it's important to remember, that whatever was so special about Chloe's brain, it was like that before Brainiac tried to take over her mind last season. She might not have had the power to download so much into her head before that, but she was already special. Remember Brainiac reacted with shock and even fear when he tried to get into her head. "What the hell are you?!"

And maybe Brainiac is buried in there someone, trying to get out. But I don't think that was him tonight. And I definitely don't want to see Chloe go "evil". She's the one decent, moral character on this show (although Clark has really started to redeem himself of his selfish behavior of earlier seasons). And I'm not going to condemn her just yet. Yes, the wrong thing done for the right reason is still the wrong thing... but it speaks of a conscience and as long as Chloe has that (which I think we saw at the end when she walked away), there's still hope for her.

100% in agreement with you I couldn't have post it better

[borednow]

It wasn't my baby! He'd have no reason to do anything to protect Clark... it was all Chloe!

[morrigan01]

You know, even though she killed to protect Clark's secret, it doesn't make her evil IMO. Morally, it was wrong, but she didn't do it out of malice or homicidal tendencies.

And yes, it was all Chloe. If it wasn't, then she should tell Clark in the next episode what she did, because it's obvious she knew what she'd just done by her look or remorse as she walked out of Sebastian's hospital room.

And plus, Brainiac has no motive to kill Sebastian. Why would Brainiac care is Clark's secret got out? Answer - he wouldn't.

No, it was all Chloe. She did it to protect Clark. She's always had him on a pedestal, and has even suggested before, last season that Clark should play God with Lex's life and kill him.

But like I said, it doesn't make her evil.

[meteor]

oh man..that was heavy. at first i thought it had to be Brainiac, but then seeing the look of remorse on Chloe's face as she walked down the hall, i dont know what to think. maybe that was Chloe feeling bad because Brainiac in effect caused her to kill somebody and she couldn't stop him from taking control of her mind and body?

[Clarks Blue Eyed Angel]

100% in agreement with you I couldn't have post it better

Thanks :)

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You know, even though she killed to protect Clark's secret, it doesn't make her evil IMO. Morally, it was wrong, but she didn't do it out of malice or homicidal tendencies.

And yes, it was all Chloe. If it wasn't, then she should tell Clark in the next episode what she did, because it's obvious she knew what she'd just done by her look or remorse as she walked out of Sebastian's hospital room.

And plus, Brainiac has no motive to kill Sebastian. Why would Brainiac care is Clark's secret got out? Answer - he wouldn't.

No, it was all Chloe. She did it to protect Clark. She's always had him on a pedestal, and has even suggested before, last season that Clark should play God with Lex's life and kill him.

But like I said, it doesn't make her evil.

Agreed, on all counts.

[minerva73]

I guessed Chloe was going to kill Sebastian as soon as I seen her in the black gloves. How did people miss this? :\

Me too. I thought that she had the gloves on because she was going to release Brainiac's tentacles or use powers to make him forget about what he saw (like with Rogue from X-Men), but the way she did it shocked me. I figured that she was going to kill him (or he'd die at least) in one way or another, though.

[JEWCY]

was that Wilson guy the person in the beginning who tried to rob Lois and then had contact with Clark when he pushed him out of the way to save Lois? I only ask this because in the last scene, Wilson says to Chloe, he should of never touched me, referring to Clark.

just got confused on that part.

[Black Panda]

I think that was Chloe suddenly becoming Chloe again as she was out in the hallway and not really getting why she's there. The coldly clinical way Chloe described the brain as a computer and the disdain for the frailty of the human mind reeked of Brainiac doing the talking there.
That's a very specific description of the clues in the acting. There have been similar clues in the acting, the dialog, and the props leading up to this. One of which was Chloe's reluctance to be cured.


To the contrary... Chloe is one of the few people who COULD be "X." Clark tells Chloe about the crystal and Chloe realizes that the crystal is the hard-drive that Tess wanted her to break in to. Later she goes to see Tess and learns the crystal has been stolen.
Just as the "previously on" in Odyssey practically beat us over the head with the possibilty of Brainiac infecting Chloe, I felt this weeks "previously on" made a pretty big point of putting those scenes side by side.


The fact that the [spoiler] crystal apparently turns up again next week and sends Clark to the Phantom Zone when it really shouldn't be doing so suggests to me that it's been tampered with and there literally is only one person who could possibly do that.
It also explains why Brainiac wants to keep Clark's secret quiet, at least for now. He's still building up his plan. I like how this season is actually starting to show it's arc come together. Dare I hope this continues?


I got to agree with you. I think we've seen Brainiac influence Chloe, but this is the first time we've seen him control her.

To this point it has seemed to me like he nudges her emotions, or is influencing the chatter in her brain. We have seen her act flatter, more menacing, make more mocking derisive remarks. But it's been subtle.


Why after 8 years of Chlark saving people would she just kill someone? Remember the Lana scene last season? She would NEVER kill to protect Clark, she'd find another way. It's obvious it's brainiac.
And she's killing in cold blood. Everyone on Smallville gets a bit gray now and then. Sometimes the bad guys give you no choice, but this was not one of those situations. It's very cold, with a touch of sadism. That is very Milton Fine.

[Supes4Ever]

Whoa, whoa....let's hold up a second. Did I REALLY just see a few people, especially on this page, JUST SAY that Chloe killing a guy "isn't that big of a deal?"???!!! You are kidding....right? If this was Lana or Lois, people would be TEARING those two characters apart, and rightly justified.

Let's get this right here- She tells Sebastian about the human mind being nothing more then a giant computer. She then poses to him a question about what happens if you overload a computer, and then "shows" him what happens. Sebastian's eyes light up, and then go black with the pupils enlarged. The Code blue is called, which is ONLY called for a person in cardiac arrest (three Aunts who are doctor's, trust me, I know). Sebastian is DEAD, she fried his brain. There is NO coming back from that.

If Chloe did this with some sort of new power from a side-effect from being attacked by Brainiac, AND she did it with NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCE from ANYONE- ie- if isn't Brainiac in her, then Chloe COMMITTED MURDER. Cold, calculated, efficient murder. No matter how you slice this, protecting Clark's secret, protecting her own, etc, she has become NO BETTER then Lionel Luthor, who ALSO killed people to save himself and Lex a few times.

If this turns out to be Brainac's influence, then I can let it slide. But if this is Chloe, let's call a spade a spade. She is no better then a murderer now, IF it was her, and she should be criticized for it.

[Be With You]

I do not think that was all Chloe. Reminds me of the Niki/Jessica scenario in Heroes but Chloe can remember afterwards. When Jessica takes over she has complete control but Niki is fighting away, trying to get back out, and normally does in the end. This infection is not strong enough so she got out - hence the look afterwards. I think the look was horror for what "she" had just done, knowing what she was capable of, and knowing what was inside her. I agree with someone who said if it was all Chloe she would say something like "I'm sorry" or mumbling about it having to be this way, plus, Chloe would should show so much remorse. Well, it may very well be Chloe but I'm not judging her quite just yet, I really don't believe it was all her. I don't know, maybe she thought about it, pushed it out of her mind but Braniac tapped into that somehow. I mean I know I have thought of various ways to kill my teachers at times. :D

[marikology]

"Kara" crashed a plane and killed three people to get the Disco Ball, and it was clear that it was NOT Kara.

I've seen seven years of Chlark saving people and Chloe not condoning killing. To me, the situation with Chloiac and with the Kara situation are the same. I think Brainiac wants Clark in the PZ, not in Belle Rive, so he'd have to protect him.


If this was Lana or Lois, people would be TEARING those two characters apart, and rightly justified.
Lana fried Buffy Sanders in "Thirst" and nobody seemed to mind. Even if it IS Chloe, doesn't she get at least one pass?

[Fallen One]

She murdered that guy. The only debate I had about this was is this Chloe or is this Brainiac. Then I saw the look on her face as she walked down the hallway.

That was Chloe. She knew what she had just done.

Brainiac would feel no emotion about killing anyone and Brainiac wouldn't give two bits about protecting Clark's secret. Chloe wanted to protect Clark's secret, Brainiac's power gave her the means to kill that guy, then Chloe allowed that feeling to prevail over her other alternatives. Power currupts, and the power of Brainiac is currupting Chloe.

Next week will be most interesting. Is she going to confide in anyone about what she just did? Will she show any more remorse?

She told Clark that she would tell him as soon as Brainiac's infection became a problem for her. Is she going to keep her word next week?

[Supes4Ever]

I have always called Lana out on crap like this, including Lionel when he pulled some of his crap when he was supposed to be "redeemed." If others didn't, then that is hypocritical. I am 50-50 on this issue. There are very hard hints that it is Brainaic inside her, and some other hints pointing towards it being Chloe who committed the murder.

Personally, if Chloe DID commit murder on her own volition, I would embrace it as a welcome change. I liked Chloe in Seasons 1 and 2, started to find her annoying and hypocritical in Seasons 3-5, and have hated her in Seasons 6 and 7. If Season 8 has her going evil, I will find it immensely interesting, especially because it is clear tonight that Ms. Mack can handle that type of acting in superb fashion.

[Last Duchess]

hey guys i didnt watch this episode yet and it's gonna take a while to see it.. can u tell me what chloe did in details plz?

[maryjanewatson]

I'm not gonna lie. I didn't like evil chloe. Chloe would never kill anyone, but it also can't be brainiac controlling her because he wouldn't want to help clark. So it had to be her, but it's WAY out of character for her. so ya, I didn't like it.

[abbaspice1]

People who say Chloe can't kill are forgetting last season when Chloe suggested that Lex needed to be killed.

If Brainaic is influencing her, it is giving her the guts to do what she feels needs to be done, instead of suggesting that others do it.

I'm not saying it is a good thing, but it is a logical progression of what we saw of Chloe.

[4Clana]

She murdered that guy. The only debate I had about this was is this Chloe or is this Brainiac. Then I saw the look on her face as she walked down the hallway.

That was Chloe. She knew what she had just done.
IA, Chloe knew what she'd done and she just walked away, she didn't turn back to go help.

[Krypton935]

I was in total shock!!! Chloe can't kill!

[ColdPlay3r]

she bad now

[bobsuncorp]

Ok everyone seems to have different opinions on this so here's mine:

Chloe was in charge of her own actions, it is rather that the Brainiac infection (as well as worrying about whether she is losing her humanity) is having a corrupting influence, so when I say Chloe did it, you have to remember that she is not the same person she was before the infection.

She didn't kill him, she caused a stroke (heard a nurse say that as she was leaving) this could do more than wipe his memory, it could put him in a vegetative state, and he could certainly die, but that wasn't the main goal.

The other important thing to realise is that Chloe didn't do this out of some kind of blood lust but with the best of intentions: to protect Clark's secret, and so it is the easiest way to go "dark side". The first time Lex ever did any bad stuff it was with the same intentions and we know how that turned out.

[marikology]

People who say Chloe can't kill are forgetting last season when Chloe suggested that Lex needed to be killed.

This has been debated endlessly and repeated so often, it's become "true", like an urban legend. She did NOT tell Clark that Lex needed to be killed. She basically stated that when not if Clark and Lex go head to head, one of them might not come out alive.

People who say she did kill him are forgetting six weeks ago when she told Bette that you DON'T kill. They're forgetting Nemesis when she told Clark he doesn't get to choose who he saves. They're forgetting Fracture when she was willing to die to save Lex and Clark. They're also forgetting last night's previouslies, which summed up six weeks worth of Chloe's Brainiac infection. It's villification, plain and simple, and I expect the show to clearly show that she isn't aware of her actions.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

She's even more cute when she's evil.

That probably sounded twisted. But its true. :lol:

[FoxHoundito]

Chloe didin't kill anyone!!


Didn't you listen to what she said? She said that the human brain is like a computer, and when you overload it with information it crashes, and then the data is LOST. So, she took advantage of the guy's ability and overloaded his mind with tons of information, so he suffered a mental crashdown, and supposedly he will lose his memory, hence he won't remember Clark's secret.

That's all! It was not a murder, it was quite a huge leap for Chloe but NO Brainiac manipulation and NO evil killing.

[Fallen One]

Um, a code blue means that your heart has stopped beating. That guy died.

[Jory]

During season 5 Brainiac never revealed Clark's secret, and last season Brainiac never revealed Clark's secret. Why did Brainiac "protect" Clark then? If Brainiac wanted to he could have told about Clark at any point, yet didn't because he had plans. Just like now.

[AndrewVDk]

I love this new Chloe!
Everything, I mean everything that Chloe does is OK by me!
If she was Brainiacked or not I don't care, I love her!
She was right to kill this guy, he knew Clark's secret, so Chloe had to protect him!
Plus the guy was a murderer and he tried to kill Chloe's cousin!
She did a great job!!!

[Fallen One]

During season 5 Brainiac never revealed Clark's secret, and last season Brainiac never revealed Clark's secret. Why did Brainiac "protect" Clark then? If Brainiac wanted to he could have told about Clark at any point, yet didn't because he had plans. Just like now.

In season 5 Brainiac wanted Clark to release Zod, first by befriending him and when that didn't work by force.

Last season he wanted Kara for that purpose. But as far as Clark was concerned Brainiac had no problems helping Lex discover his secret. Season 5 was season 5. Brainiac does not care about protecting Clark's secret. They are clear cut enemies now.

[Kal-ed]

He didnt reveal Clark´s secret, true but he had no reason to do it, which, ironically enough, is the same thing in this case, he has no reason to protect it.

There´s a big diference between Brianiac not revealing Clark´s secret and Brainiac proactively protecting it.

I have no doubt it was Brainiac and not Chloe, the question is, why did Brainiac want to protect Clark´s secret:confused:... sounds to me like the easiest contrived reason TPTB found to have the first time Brainiac´s will was manifested since his encounter with Chloe (yes, I still dont believe Brainiac is responsible for the Chimmy engagement).

[Meteror Freak]

I love the new evil chloe aka: Chloe with gloves.

Well, I guess she kinda took the gloves off, didn't she?

[Krpyto]

That was not Chloe. That was without a doubt Brainiac. He pretty much said so the moment he talked about Brain's and computers, and how the difference is that the human brain, if it downloads to much info just shuts down. Then he grabbed the guy's arm. That was Brainiac. But why is he protecting Clark is beyond me.

I disagree. It is Chloe but she is slowly being corrupted by Braniac. It is NOT Braniac impersonating Chloe but rather Chloe being infected by Braniac.

[Isabel14]

I think she's using somehow Brainiac for her personal purpose. I mean, she could never killed someone, so I assume she uses her evil "instincts" for protecting Clark or something.

[JW_102792]

Just because someone kills, that doesn't make them evil. People are saying the same thing on Heroes, and it's getting really old. She's killing to protect Clark.

And saying she's Brainiac now makes no sense, she's completely herself with Brainiac's intelligence, and possibly him buried inside of her trying to get out. She's not being controlled by him just because she kills someone, she was completely aware of what she was doing, and she knew she had to protect Clark.

I'm not trying to be rude, but it's just silly to think she's evil/Brainiac based on what we've seen.

EDIT: Or of course, it's Brainiac influencing Chloe a bit, but it's still her.

[darkone]

People are saying the same thing on Heroes, and it's getting really old. She's killing to protect Clark.

Then Chloe is a hypocrite period.

And she was the one who gave Lana lectures in Wrath. Now it's Chloe who actually killed someone. :lol:
Pretty twisted. When Isobel stabbed Genevieve it was clear that she was a different character than Lana. That can't be said here imo.

[Super Maverick]

Chloe = Brainiac-8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainiac_8)

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[DontCha]

There is no reason for Brainiac to protect clark's secret. And so I come to the horrific conclusion that its not ALL brainiac doing the killing..there's a LOT of chloe in there too.

[Animation]

I voted "No, I was shocked" because I saw the reader guy in hospital, and so as soon as I saw black gloves, I knew that guy was either dead or comatose. The shock came when the camera panned up to Chloe. As soon as I saw it was Chloe, I knew she was going to do "it".

For the record, I believe that her actions, while influenced by the Braniac changes within her, were mainly her own. Still, we'll see. They could go any direction with it.

Lewis

[DontCha]

Chloe didin't kill anyone!!


Didn't you listen to what she said? She said that the human brain is like a computer, and when you overload it with information it crashes, and then the data is LOST. So, she took advantage of the guy's ability and overloaded his mind with tons of information, so he suffered a mental crashdown, and supposedly he will lose his memory, hence he won't remember Clark's secret.

That's all! It was not a murder, it was quite a huge leap for Chloe but NO Brainiac manipulation and NO evil killing.


his heart stopped love...you could hear it on the machine then it stopped after Chloe killed him.

[Chlois Supporter]

People, it was Brainiac pure and simple. Brainiac killed that guy, and Chloe took control again after they she left the room.

FACTS: First time Brainiac ever appeared on Smallville, his first spoken words were "Can anyone tell me what the most powerful computer on earth is? Its this. The human brain."

Brainiac has already once alluded to brain's being like computers, and he did it again last night. He took control of Chloe and killed that guy to protect Clark's secret. The reason: The Fortress Crystal. Brainiac can't fight Clark on his own, because he doesn't have any powers except his knowledge. He needs the Fortress to get his true form back, and he can only get to the Fortress by finding the crystal. He needs Clark to help him get the crystal. So he killed the guy to protect Clark's secret, and keep him off people's radar till he gets what he wants.

And to those who think it was Brainiac who took the crystal, if that were the case we'd already have Brainiac back. The moment that Brainiac got the Crystal he would have built the Fortress himself, and been able to use it to get his powers, and crush Clark. He doesn't have the crystal, Lex does. He needs Clark to find the Crystal and if Clark's secret got out, Brainiac wouldn't have the one person who could lead him to the Crystal anymore, hence he took control of Chloe, and killed that guy. Then Chloe left the room, and she regained control again.

[myankskent]

I honestly think that her actions were based on the mistake that she made earlier in the episode when she told Clark that she wanted to release the picture of the blur to the public. She saw how quickly Jimmy was able to put everything together and how Tess would've put it on the front page so she wanted to make sure that Sebastian didn't pose another threat to Clark's true identity. I think that without Brainiac's power, Chloe probably would've dealt with the situation differently but the power is starting to corrupt her. It is very similar to what is going on in Heroes.

[Sv.LoisLane]

There is no reason for Brainiac to protect clark's secret. And so I come to the horrific conclusion that its not ALL brainiac doing the killing..there's a LOT of chloe in there too.

ITA! That was all Chloe out there using her new powers.

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I honestly think that her actions were based on the mistake that she made earlier in the episode when she told Clark that she wanted to release the picture of the blur to the public. She saw how quickly Jimmy was able to put everything together and how Tess would've put it on the front page so she wanted to make sure that Sebastian didn't pose another threat to Clark's true identity. I think that without Brainiac's power, Chloe probably would've dealt with the situation differently but the power is starting to corrupt her. It is very similar to what is going on in Heroes.

Probably, but to kill is not the solution, IMO. Not even in Smallvile.

[Guidron]

I'm on the middle ground on this one. I don't think it was entirely Chloe, but I don't think it was entirely Braniac either.

Braniac doesn't have a reason to protect Clark's secret, Chloe does, and even said in the episode earlier something along the lines of 'I'd do anything when it comes to your secret.'

However, the Chloe we know, I don't believe would go to the extent of killing someone. Braniac on the other hand has no issues with it.

I think what's happening is Braniac is slowly spreading through Chloe and corrupting her. It showed earlier in the episode that her brain is processing information way faster than the Isis computer system can handle.

[myankskent]

Brainiac has already once alluded to brain's being like computers, and he did it again last night. He took control of Chloe and killed that guy to protect Clark's secret. The reason: The Fortress Crystal. Brainiac can't fight Clark on his own, because he doesn't have any powers except his knowledge. He needs the Fortress to get his true form back, and he can only get to the Fortress by finding the crystal. He needs Clark to help him get the crystal. So he killed the guy to protect Clark's secret, and keep him off people's radar till he gets what he wants.


But this still doesn't make any sense because I see no sense of urgency on Chloe's side to get the crystal back. She knew that Tess had it and hasn't investigated who might have stolen it from her. Also, wouldn't Brainiac want to work closely with Tess, much like he has done with Lex prior? When Tess came to Chloe asking her for help hacking into a system, she turned her down. Since Brainiac knew that Lex was there when the fortress went down, I would think that he would want to be as close to Tess as possible to uncover any information that she might have regarding that crystal.

[RedKRules]

I totally think it was Brainiac ...... but damm AM did an amazing job playing evil, I loved it!!!

[Chlois Supporter]

But this still doesn't make any sense because I see no sense of urgency on Chloe's side to get the crystal back. She knew that Tess had it and hasn't investigated who might have stolen it from her. Also, wouldn't Brainiac want to work closely with Tess, much like he has done with Lex prior? When Tess came to Chloe asking her for help hacking into a system, she turned her down. Since Brainiac knew that Lex was there when the fortress went down, I would think that he would want to be as close to Tess as possible to uncover any information that she might have regarding that crystal.

Do we know what Chloe was working on that crashed the Isis Computers? No. We don't know what Brainiac/Chloe is doing to get the Crystal back. But we know without a doubt that he'd want it, and will do whatever's necessary to attain it, including helping Clark and protecting him if it served the ultimate goal. Its not the first time he's helped Clark, to serve his own needs.

And Brainiac only worked closely with Lex because that was what the prophecy foretold. That there were two people who would be the vessel for Zod, Clark, and the next most powerful after him. Brainiac couldn't get Clark to be the vessel, so he changed the next most powerful one, Lex, so that he could be the vessel. Brainiac wouldn't care about remaining close to Tess because he knows she doesn't have the crystal anymore, that someone else does, so he's going after that "someone else" who in this case, happens to Be Lex anyway IMO.

[meteor]

I'm still undecided, but when detectives are trying to solve a murder one of their primary points is motive. Brainiac had no visible motive to kill Sebastien. Chloe did. unless Brainiac did it because he's trying to send Chloe over the edge which is possible..that's the only thing i can come up with. this reminds me a bit of Willow on Buffy when she became powerful and ended up killing people. it could be soemthing like that...but the motive is certainly there for Chloe and not so much for Brainiac. would the producers really turn Chloe into a killer though? it's a bit hard to believe.

[JW_102792]

People, it was Brainiac pure and simple. Brainiac killed that guy, and Chloe took control again after they she left the room.

FACTS: First time Brainiac ever appeared on Smallville, his first spoken words were "Can anyone tell me what the most powerful computer on earth is? Its this. The human brain."

Brainiac has already once alluded to brain's being like computers, and he did it again last night. He took control of Chloe and killed that guy to protect Clark's secret. The reason: The Fortress Crystal. Brainiac can't fight Clark on his own, because he doesn't have any powers except his knowledge. He needs the Fortress to get his true form back, and he can only get to the Fortress by finding the crystal. He needs Clark to help him get the crystal. So he killed the guy to protect Clark's secret, and keep him off people's radar till he gets what he wants.

And to those who think it was Brainiac who took the crystal, if that were the case we'd already have Brainiac back. The moment that Brainiac got the Crystal he would have built the Fortress himself, and been able to use it to get his powers, and crush Clark. He doesn't have the crystal, Lex does. He needs Clark to find the Crystal and if Clark's secret got out, Brainiac wouldn't have the one person who could lead him to the Crystal anymore, hence he took control of Chloe, and killed that guy. Then Chloe left the room, and she regained control again.

That actually sounds like a pretty good theory, seems believable, makes sense.

Could be he's not taking complete control of Chloe because Clark would beable to tell it's not her, and he knows about the Brainiac infection so he might piece it together.

[MozartRequiem]

Was I the only one who thought Evil Chloe was damn sexy? ;)

Allison Mack did an amazing job with this! She's such a great actress: she seemed like a totally different person!

As for my theory, I think it's Braniac residing inside her, but it's her own motives, as others have said. She killed for Clark, but she was only able to kill because Braniac is inside her. So she's a strange mix of Braniac and Chloe it seems.

[DontCha]

The scene is chloe and braniac..she is NOT possesed she is slowly being infected, its TOTALLY different..its like her slowly becoming sick rather than suddenly being taken over. Protecting clark's secret is ALL CHLOE SULLIVAN but the evil slowly infecting her is making it OK in her mind for her to do bad things in order to protect him.

Its stripping away her moral values...but there are STILL some there when she walks oout so she knew exactly what she was doing, she knew it was HER

[ginnyfan]

First of all, WHAT A TWIST. I voted that I was completely shocked. Allison Mack did a wonderful job. Chloe was stone cold while she killed that guy. STONE COLD. Then as she left, the blinking and uncertainty opens the door to Chloe possibly losing time or feeling unsure/shameful about the kill. The menacing glove and the slow motion as Chloe walked away were great touches. It was simply chilling and disturbing.

In "Progeny" I rejoiced and delighted in "evil" Chloe but here... it just makes me sad, worried and disturbed. It's exciting story but... I'm not geeking out about it yet.

I've read the whole thread and I'm still torn. I talked about this for 30 minutes with my friend last night. After reading this thread I see that we covered most of the possibilities that other people have covered. Man this end scene was so well done. It leaves the viewer with so many delicious questions.


Okay, I have to step in here. Yes, it's nice to know Chloe will do anything to protect Clark's secret but does anyone else find it ironic how this played out?

Does anyone remember Chloe's little chit-chat with Lana at the end of Wrath where Lana told her that she would do anything for Clark and Chloe responded with 'even kill...what a lucky guy.' And now that Chloe has killed for Clark's secret, everyone thinks it's cool or they think it's brainiac.

Excuse me as I roll my eyes.

I did think of Evil!Lana from Season 7. I do think that this is similar. For Lana, the corrupting force was the Luthor family. Living with and dealing with them during Season 6 changed her. That change was manifested during Season 7. Similarly Chloe's brainiac infection changed Chloe. Lana CHOSE to get in bed with the Luthors. Chloe was attacked by Brainiac. So if Chloe had intentionally consumed the Brainiac powers... then it would be a direct parallel. As someone else posted, if Chloe didn't have brainiac's powers, I doubt that she would have killed this boy.


Chloe = Brainiac-8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainiac_8)

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/b/bb/Indigo.jpg

Thanks so much for posting the Wikki.


After a beating by the combined forces of Teen Titans and Outsiders, in Outsiders #25, the Indigo persona wrests control from Brainiac 8, and reveals herself to be a genuine personality.

This IS what I think is going on with Chloe. Brainiac sent himself into Chloe. Just as with Lana, he would have been able to control her, make her feel pain, make her say mean things to Clark, from within. But when Chloe's power rose up against him she broke the part of brainiac inside her away from the main BRAIN of Brainiac. It's an independent part of brainiac now. Thus, I doubt that Brainiac has any conscious plan apart from Chloe or any contious control of Chloe... ie. manipulating her for it's own ends. BUT it does have a malevolent nature. Some one compared it to the corrupting power of the ring. I think that's it. It takes Chloe's evil side... and corrupts... or magnifies it. Enhances it... And I think it has a survival instinct.


Everyone has a little bad side. Brainiac was able to tap into Chloe's bad side, which explains the look after the deed, ie. she didn't know she had that in her. She is very protective of Clark after all.

Exactly. I don't think that brainiac has his own fully formed will. But Chloe's dark side is much darker because of her infection.

When Clark killed Brainiac at the end of Season 7, I think he would have laughed if he'd known that part of him was inside of Chloe. But I think he didn't know because that part was completely severed from him by Chloe's power. This also means that when Clark killed Brainiac that DID NOT heal Chloe. Chloe healed herself. Brainiac was severed from Chloe so... I don't think killing Brainiac got rid of the milky eye whatever... brain damage.

I've seen glimpses of this other Chloe before this season, and NOT during her lie detector test. LOL!

1. Whenever Clark mentions Chloe's brainiac powers or suggests there's a way to get rid of them. Chloe is distinctly out of character during these scenes. She was so worried about her HEALING power. A power that is essentially selfless and good. But when it comes to a BRAINIAC power she's annoyed that Clark even wants to help her? She has accepted it? She knew that the fortress could possibly heal her but... never mentioned it to Clark. She seemed reluctant when he finally bought it up.

2. The confrontation with Tess. The first time when Tess threatened her she had a cold smile. This was a Chloe I'd never seen before.

3. Cold hard killer Chloe. This is the second time I've seen this cold side of Chloe.


What we have, at least at the moment, is not "Chloe in control" or "Brainiac in control" but a person who is now a fusion of the old Chloe and Brainiac.

I agree with this. It's almost like Illyria and Fred except that Illyria is still connected to her old godlike self. I would argue that Chloe's brainiac is independent of the original brainiac we knew. But Illyria is not just Illyria and she's certainly not just Fred. But she's discovering that she's an odd fusion of the two.


I think that was Chloe suddenly becoming Chloe again as she was out in the hallway and not really getting why she's there. The coldly clinical way Chloe described the brain as a computer and the disdain for the frailty of the human mind reeked of Brainiac doing the talking there.


"I thought for sure I'd closed that."
-Chloe "Toxic"

It's been subtle, but we have been clued into Chloe not remembering things properly and I'm pretty sure that's because Brainiac has been able to exert control over her mind and she doesn't remember it.

I think it's possible that Chloe is losing time. I think there are now two Chloe's. Chloe and Chloiac. There is no completely independent brainiac. I think it's very like the ring in lord of the rings. There's the person before the ring... and the person they become after carrying the ring for too long. They are not Sauron but... they are not who they were originally.

This is all very clever. It's like they've divided Chloe as meteor infected person into two seasons. The first season is light. She's got a healing power. Jimmy and Clark support her through it. It brought Chloe's selfless and goodness and light to a new level. And this season is the corruption... the ticking time bomb side that Chloe was so afraid of in Season 6. They've added Brainiac into the recipe and he's totally eclipsed the good, the healing and now it's enhancing Chloe's dark, evil compulsive side.

[oldblackmagick]

Whoa, whoa....let's hold up a second. Did I REALLY just see a few people, especially on this page, JUST SAY that Chloe killing a guy "isn't that big of a deal?"???!!! You are kidding....right? If this was Lana or Lois, people would be TEARING those two characters apart, and rightly justified.

Let's get this right here- She tells Sebastian about the human mind being nothing more then a giant computer. She then poses to him a question about what happens if you overload a computer, and then "shows" him what happens. Sebastian's eyes light up, and then go black with the pupils enlarged. The Code blue is called, which is ONLY called for a person in cardiac arrest (three Aunts who are doctor's, trust me, I know). Sebastian is DEAD, she fried his brain. There is NO coming back from that.

If Chloe did this with some sort of new power from a side-effect from being attacked by Brainiac, AND she did it with NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCE from ANYONE- ie- if isn't Brainiac in her, then Chloe COMMITTED MURDER. Cold, calculated, efficient murder. No matter how you slice this, protecting Clark's secret, protecting her own, etc, she has become NO BETTER then Lionel Luthor, who ALSO killed people to save himself and Lex a few times.

If this turns out to be Brainac's influence, then I can let it slide. But if this is Chloe, let's call a spade a spade. She is no better then a murderer now, IF it was her, and she should be criticized for it.

Well of course she is being affected by brainiac...but that is not to say she is being CONTROLLED by him. This is not a good decision by any means but in reality she didn't kill him...his own power killed him because of her power. It's not her fault her mind hold billions more files than he ever could...she was wrong and will pay but for now im just excitied that she gets to do something other than be the damsel in distress and i love it. Most people don't want to have their characters go evil cause then they wouldn't match up to the comics...well this is the haha time cause chloe can get away with pretty much anything including turning into the super villain cause they don't have to explain how things are all better for her. For all we know she is this seasons big bad!!! and i love it:D

[Firebunny]

The next morning and I'm still blown away by Chloiac in the last scene.

I know there was other stuff that happened in the episode (I remember Jimmy and Clark were in it), but really Identity will stand out for the last two minutes.

[myankskent]

Do we know what Chloe was working on that crashed the Isis Computers? No. We don't know what Brainiac/Chloe is doing to get the Crystal back.


But we do know that he turned down a golden opportunity to get close to Tess to find out what she knew about Lex's disappearance, which could be connected to the crystal. That's the main point here that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.




Brainiac wouldn't care about remaining close to Tess because he knows she doesn't have the crystal anymore, that someone else does, so he's going after that "someone else" who in this case, happens to Be Lex anyway IMO.

I can understand that and that does make sense. However, it doesn't make sense that Brainiac would not try to use Tess to find out where Lex was, nor does it make sense for him to turn down the offer made by Tess to work together to hack into a system. You'd think that Brainiac would at least be intrigued by that enough to find out what Tess was working on, since her main goal this season has been to locate Lex.

[Dor el]

First of all, WHAT A TWIST. I voted that I was completely shocked. Allison Mack did a wonderful job. Chloe was stone cold while she killed that guy. STONE COLD. Then as she left, the blinking and uncertainty opens the door to Chloe possibly losing time or feeling unsure/shameful about the kill. The menacing glove and the slow motion as Chloe walked away were great touches. It was simply chilling and disturbing.


Agreed. AM did a great cold hard evil killer woman.


Whenever Clark mentions Chloe's brainiac powers or suggests there's a way to get rid of them. Chloe is distinctly out of character during these scenes. She was so worried about her HEALING power. A power that is essentially selfless and good. But when it comes to a BRAINIAC power she's annoyed that Clark even wants to help her? She has accepted it? She knew that the fortress could possibly heal her but... never mentioned it to Clark. She seemed reluctant when he finally bought it up.

I think maybe Chloiac has the crystal, and since it is Clark's crystal, he has to be the one to use it. And, I see this as an explanation of why Brainiac would want to help Clark. He still needs Clark. Also would explain why Choiac might not want to be cured of her Brainiac infection.

[Mars Investigations]

It wasn't Brainiac that killed Sebastian. After all, what would he gain from protecting Clark's secret?

It was just his darker, more murderous programming channeling itself through Chloe's wish to protect her friends. In other words, the killing was a result of her motivation and his evil.

[ShelbyKent]

Me too!! :lol: I definitely squeeled!!!

So does this mean Brainiac has been in charge for awhile now, and he's just putting on an act??? It certainly looks that way! :eek:

Great forshawdowing of whats to come....AM can pull off evil really well, who knew!?
I remember last week, people were theorizing that Chloe would get black-outs like Davis whenever Brainiac takes over...but now I'm not so sure........

So it is like Chloe would now hear a voice in her head, telling her to do bad things?

I am definitely intrigued!

[FlashInSV]

I most definitely did NOT see that coming. I loved it, though, Evil Chloe is interesting and exciting for me . I loved Mack's performance btw. I thought it was a brilliant way to end the episode

[morrigan01]

Whoa, whoa....let's hold up a second. Did I REALLY just see a few people, especially on this page, JUST SAY that Chloe killing a guy "isn't that big of a deal?"???!!! You are kidding....right? If this was Lana or Lois, people would be TEARING those two characters apart, and rightly justified.

Let's get this right here- She tells Sebastian about the human mind being nothing more then a giant computer. She then poses to him a question about what happens if you overload a computer, and then "shows" him what happens. Sebastian's eyes light up, and then go black with the pupils enlarged. The Code blue is called, which is ONLY called for a person in cardiac arrest (three Aunts who are doctor's, trust me, I know). Sebastian is DEAD, she fried his brain. There is NO coming back from that.

If Chloe did this with some sort of new power from a side-effect from being attacked by Brainiac, AND she did it with NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCE from ANYONE- ie- if isn't Brainiac in her, then Chloe COMMITTED MURDER. Cold, calculated, efficient murder. No matter how you slice this, protecting Clark's secret, protecting her own, etc, she has become NO BETTER then Lionel Luthor, who ALSO killed people to save himself and Lex a few times.

If this turns out to be Brainac's influence, then I can let it slide. But if this is Chloe, let's call a spade a spade. She is no better then a murderer now, IF it was her, and she should be criticized for it.

Well, I'm not a Chloe fan. Seriously, she's bored me for the past couple of seasons, to the point where I could usually care less about any plotline of her's, even this season.

But I would make the same argument for Lois and Lana that I do for Chloe here - she is not evil. What she did was wrong and morally reprehensible, yes, totally. And I truly believe it was all her, especially because of her look of remorse at the end. She knew exactly what she'd just done. She didn't look confused at all.

But it still doesn't make her evil. To be evil, she would have had to have ZERO remorse for what she'd just done. That's IMO, why we saw her look of remorse. To show that she wasn't unaffected by what she'd just done. She didn't do it out of malice or psychopathic intent.

What she did was WRONG. Period. But she isn't evil.

But yes, you are right. Lois or Lana would be getting ripped apart if it had been them instead of Chloe. :\

[tariksam]

seriously it was Chloe Brianaic was the weapon Chloe just decided to use it....the look at the end says it all IMO...

[FlashInSV]

Was I the only one who thought Evil Chloe was damn sexy? ;)

Allison Mack did an amazing job with this! She's such a great actress: she seemed like a totally different person!


No, that would make two of us, my friend. I thought so too. :lol:

[Jory]

I think that was Chloe suddenly becoming Chloe again as she was out in the hallway and not really getting why she's there. The coldly clinical way Chloe described the brain as a computer and the disdain for the frailty of the human mind reeked of Brainiac doing the talking there.


"I thought for sure I'd closed that."
-Chloe "Toxic"

It's been subtle, but we have been clued into Chloe not remembering things properly and I'm pretty sure that's because Brainiac has been able to exert control over her mind and she doesn't remember it.


To the contrary... Chloe is one of the few people who COULD be "X." Clark tells Chloe about the crystal and Chloe realizes that the crystal is the hard-drive that Tess wanted her to break in to. Later she goes to see Tess and learns the crystal has been stolen.

The fact that the crystal apparently turns up again next week and sends Clark to the Phantom Zone when it really shouldn't be doing so suggests to me that it's been tampered with and there literally is only one person who could possibly do that. The fact that they'll have this happen right after they show a very Out Of Character Chloe I think means they intend to show that Brainiac is able to take over Chloe for periods of time to accomplish some larger goal that's ultimately leading up to "Abyss" through "Legion" where Brainiac takes full control of Chloe.

Plus, why would Brainiac protect Clark? [/quote]
I think protection is relative. Because any inquiry into Clark is going to eventually spread to involve Chloe and Brainiac in her head. It's also possible that he needs Clark for some purpose in his latest scheme (as someone else suggested, Clark is the only person who can command the Fortress... and I doubt Brainiac's plans involve staying in a powerless human female).

All told I think they've been setting up Brainiac slowly taking control of Chloe all season long and this is just the latest stage.[/QUOTE]




I agree with everything you said.

When Chloe was walking in the hallway, I think that was Chloe regaining consciousness. I think Brainiac can take control over her for short periods of time, right now, but I think tha'll get stronger until he's able to control her 100% of the time. I think Brainiac needs Clark for something, and that "X" is Brainiac. Based on "Bloodline" it's the only logical explanation for what will occur in that episode.


I think if that were Chloe who killed that guy, there would've been more emotion (during the speach) and after the killing. The hallway scene looked (to me) like Chloe was coming to and wondering WTF she was doing at the hospital.

As each episode has progressed, TPTB have shown that Brainiac is gaining more and more control over Chloe. I think "Bloodline" will show that Brainiac (via) Chloe is "X," this will lead into "Abyss" , "Bride," and "Legion" when things come to a head.

[ShelbyKent]

You know, when Chloe was walking away from Sebastian, I was expecting a full-on EVOL GRIN or smirk on her face, because she was Chloiac.

But instead, we got a CONFLICTED looking Chloe. She looked really PERPLEXED with what she just did. I wasn't expecting that. Because if Brainiac was in total control of Chloe, there's no reason for her to look conflicted! Killing Sebastian was "Mission Accomplished" for Brainy.

And one more thing, what does Brainiac gain by killing Sebastian? Brainiac doesn not care whether Clark's secret is revealed or not. Chloe is the one who cares about that.

So this makes me think that Chloe is still the dominant persona, but Brainiac's darker tendencies are getting more pronounced (to put it mildly).

[tariksam]

What she did was WRONG. Period. But she isn't evil
I agree with you...and I still think its was Chloe....during and after Chloe showed emotions and not coldness. she is acting with logic as a computer but at the end she is affected like "oh crap I did it" she is conflicted cause she knows what she did, she knows it was wrong but at the same time she is not letting it affect her THAT much...I think her last response was the "my first kill" kind of look.

I knew Chloe would at some point cross the line to protect Clark....and gag me I think this is awesome

[stenochick]

I didn't see it coming so soon and so violently!

[Mars Investigations]

It wasn't Brainiac that killed Sebastian. After all, what would he gain from protecting Clark's secret?

It was just his darker, more murderous programming channeling itself through Chloe's wish to protect her friends. In other words, the killing was a result of her motivation and his evil.

^^^
You can also tell this because of Allison's differing expressions and the division of the scene's atmosphere - from cold-hearted and murderous to conflicted and terrified.

[myankskent]

I agree with you...and I still think its was Chloe....during and after Chloe showed emotions and not coldness. she is acting with logic as a computer but at the end she is affected like "oh crap I did it" she is conflicted cause she knows what she did, she knows it was wrong but at the same time she is not letting it affect her THAT much...I think her last response was the "my first kill" kind of look.

I knew Chloe would at some point cross the line to protect Clark....and gag me I think this is awesome

If this is really Chloe just using the powers that she was given, I wonder if that will eventually make Brainiac stronger. If Chloe tried to reject the powers and didn't give into them, then that would mean that she is stronger and is able to fight off Brainiac. I say this because I go back to the earlier episodes where Clark kept warning Chloe about these powers and Chloe was determined to use them to help people. She refused to stop using them. Maybe she used them to a point where it's now opened up her dark side in wanting to protect Clark's secret, and now Brainiac is closer than ever to taking over her body, which he will begin to do slowly in "Abyss".

[All about Clark]

I think the power is corrupting Chloe. It was still Chloe. There was no motive for Braniac and he isn't controlling her yet. All her actions in this ep were her own. I think she's thinking more like a computer than a human being, and she reasoned it out that the guy needed to be eliminated to protect Clark. Just like her decision to let the paper go with the photo. She made the decision like a computer, and not like Clark's best friend, and since she knows she put him under duress, she wants to protect him from anything further since the Jimmy thing got out of hand.

[Chiriru]

When Chloe was walking in the hallway, I think that was Chloe regaining consciousness. I think Brainiac can take control over her for short periods of time, right now, but I think tha'll get stronger until he's able to control her 100% of the time. I think Brainiac needs Clark for something, and that "X" is Brainiac. Based on "Bloodline" it's the only logical explanation for what will occur in that episode.

I think that is exactly what happened. We know she's been losing time since Toxic, and most have noted that her Brainiac-ness gets stronger when ever she's around machines.

And they did a pretty huge and glaring hint in this episode prior - Brainiac is getting so powerful and fast in her head, that he shorted out Isis' megacomputer, and Descent and the photo made a huge deal about how powerful that was last years.

Plus when she touched him the guys eyes went pure Brainiac just like Dax-Ur's in Persona. Count the rhapsodized line about primitive humans that is such a Brainiac line? And the entirely black outfit and gloves, which isn't normal Chloe's wardrobe at all? Yeah, it's Brainiac in a Chloe Meatsuit.

Given the previously, I think it was done so people would guess that Brainiac was X for next week and remind people that Brainiac is taking over Chloe whenever he wants now. That Chloe was wrong to say let's worry about it when we have to - because hello, he's Brainiac. He's evil. He's in your head. That's worrysome.

Now why would Brainiac protect Clark? Well if his plan to shove him him in the PZ then I think he wants as few people talking about it as possible, or noticing. And the world, a major newspaper, or whatnot calling for their hero back pretty much works against that.


If this is really Chloe just using the powers that she was given, I wonder if that will eventually make Brainiac stronger. If Chloe tried to reject the powers and didn't give into them, then that would mean that she is stronger and is able to fight off Brainiac.

Not only that, but I think there is an excellent Splinter parallel here. At first it seemed like no big deal when Clark cut himself but as time went on it got worse and worse and worse. Clark was still Clark on some level, but Brainiac was driving the show in a lot of ways. I see the same here except they already ahd the set up that since Toxic, Chloe is losing time which I think has to be a set up for full on possession. It's just slowly taking her over, a lot more slowly than it did Clark in Splinter.