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armand
10-29-2008, 12:29 PM
Sylar has the ability to see the past of everyting that he touches. Angela fed him that girl with the "history" ability.

Shouldn't Sylar be able to see if Arthur is telling the truth about Angela trying to kill him?

Xanderman
10-29-2008, 12:40 PM
Interesting....that depends on whether Angela was telling the truth about that woman's ability I guess. Maybe she had some other ability, which is connected to Sylar becoming a good guy. Like empathy/feeling other's people's pain or something...we haven't actually seen Sylar use that "past seeing" ability yet to confirm it, have we...

(you left out the word "truth" in your thread title by the way)

Lex'sLover
10-29-2008, 01:29 PM
Sylar has the ability to see the past of everyting that he touches. Angela fed him that girl with the "history" ability.

Shouldn't Sylar be able to see if Arthur is telling the truth about Angela trying to kill him?

I think Sylar knows that Arthur is lying.. which is why he broke Peter's fall when he threw him out the window. Cause it saved Peter and got him away from Arthur (though banged him up a bit) And gained Arthurs trust.. so now Sylar is on the inside. I believe he is still on his momma's side 100%.

Litle bit more bizarre
10-29-2008, 02:55 PM
I think Sylar knows that Arthur is lying.. which is why he broke Peter's fall when he threw him out the window. Cause it saved Peter and got him away from Arthur (though banged him up a bit) And gained Arthurs trust.. so now Sylar is on the inside. I believe he is still on his momma's side 100%.

I agree but I dont think that Arthur is not realy trusting to Sylar

Lex'sLover
10-30-2008, 01:03 PM
ya... I dont think the plan is really working either.. cause Arthur was like... I wonder how he could survive that fall? .. and Sylar is just like.. uh.. Idunno *cough cough*... lol so.. ya.. i dont think its working so much.

Sweetie
10-30-2008, 01:55 PM
Sylar didn't beleive his daddy.Just of the way he helped Peter to get out of his reach is a good prouve,I think ;)

Sylar thinks he can get his father''s trust so,he can kill him later.Well,he better be carefull,his dad isn't buy it.The way he delivers his lines."I wonder how Peter suvived the fall".The most important thing he can read your mind boy;)

Queen Of Krypton
10-30-2008, 03:47 PM
As I said in another thread, Angela is really the only one that we have seen so far treat Sylar like an actual person and not a monster (granted he did kill a lot of people so what did he expect?). As a mother she has to love him and has a bond with him. Sylar isn't going to forget that.

We have seen a huge shift in Sylar and how he perceives things. At first he didn't care about Peter and when Peter time traveled into Sylars cell they got into it. Sylar listened to his vision of Angela and left to get Peter knowing that there was a risk, and before he left he checked in on Angela, called her Mom and gave her a kiss on the forehead. When he went in to rescue Peter he said "that's what brothers do."

If those things don't scream out OBVIOUS I don't know what does.

x THE CHEETAH x
10-30-2008, 04:01 PM
As I said in another thread, Angela is really the only one that we have seen so far treat Sylar like an actual person and not a monster (granted he did kill a lot of people so what did he expect?). As a mother she has to love him and has a bond with him. Sylar isn't going to forget that.

We have seen a huge shift in Sylar and how he perceives things. At first he didn't care about Peter and when Peter time traveled into Sylars cell they got into it. Sylar listened to his vision of Angela and left to get Peter knowing that there was a risk, and before he left he checked in on Angela, called her Mom and gave her a kiss on the forehead. When he went in to rescue Peter he said "that's what brothers do."

If those things don't scream out OBVIOUS I don't know what does.

... and with Peter risking his life as he came back to help Sylar escape from their Dad, I think it actually surprised Sylar and he was genuinely touched that his brother took such a risk. That selfless act on Peter's part may play a big role in Sylar's continued path towards the good side.

Queen Of Krypton
10-30-2008, 04:02 PM
... and with Peter risking his life as he came back to help Sylar escape from their Dad, I think it actually surprised Sylar and he was genuinely touched that his brother took such a risk. That selfless act on Peter's part may play a big role in Sylar's continued path towards the good side.

It could. The first step was actually Angela trusting him to do good with HRG. Angela hadn't been in his life for years but she trusted him from the get go simply based on him being her son. That showed Sylar unconditional love.

x THE CHEETAH x
10-30-2008, 04:06 PM
It could. The first step was actually Angela trusting him to do good with HRG. Angela hadn't been in his life for years but she trusted him from the get go simply based on him being her son. That showed Sylar unconditional love.

Definitely...

rambo5501
10-30-2008, 05:28 PM
the ability only works on objects

Brakiss
10-31-2008, 08:18 AM
the ability only works on objects

If that is true (which we dont know for sure) he could still try it with Arthurs wedding ring.

JW_102792
10-31-2008, 08:31 AM
For all we know, Angela is just playing Sylar because she's seen the future and she dies or something, and thinks Sylar might be there to protect her so she'll live, as an example.

She's definitely the type to manipulate people to get what she wants, so I could see it happening. But she does seem to deep down actually care for her children, so it's also possible she actually just wants to help him. (I personally don't think so, I think she's manipulating him)

LuthorKent90
10-31-2008, 10:51 PM
Hmm lets see... random guy who pops up out of no where, steals his OWN sons (Peters) abilities, leaves his wife in some kind of coma in a hospital.

I think hes learned to trust Angela just a little bit more. :arrr:

Lex'sLover
11-02-2008, 06:59 PM
I think both Arthur and Angela are manipulative Liars (which i guess just makes Sylar a chip off the old block) and either one of them could be lying.. they both could be lying for all we know.. but I think Sylar actually BELIEVES Angela.

Superboy2
11-02-2008, 10:14 PM
So once she realized he was going to start killing people, why didn't she try and stop him? Or hell, why not have his powers taken away with either Arthur or some other way.

Lex'sLover
11-03-2008, 11:22 AM
I think this is kind of her way of stopping him... trying to change him.

----- Added 30 Seconds later -----

She also said Sylar was special.. so maybe Arthur cant take his powers away.

Superboy2
11-03-2008, 04:47 PM
He took Peters. Arthur, Peter and Gabriel are pretty much the same with their powers.

Litle bit more bizarre
11-04-2008, 03:45 AM
So once she realized he was going to start killing people, why didn't she try and stop him? Or hell, why not have his powers taken away with either Arthur or some other way.

Maybe she saw that he become killer but if Arthur was so bad before than she was affeared what could Arthur become with Sylars ability. Something even more dangerous than Sylar himself

kryptonhero25
11-05-2008, 02:41 PM
i just think its too obvious the way that peter just explained exactly that sylar saved him. i think that sylar is conflicted. he's obviously easily swayed, he turned into a hero in a flash by angela, he can easily be manipulated again with arthur. it also may be that peter's powers stay with him and he just lost them temporarily and his healing powers are growing back.

Lex'sLover
11-05-2008, 05:06 PM
i know what you mean.. it kind of bugs me how easily Sylar can be manipulated these days.. especially since he usually is the one doing the manipulating.. he should be able to see right through that.

Phantom X
11-08-2008, 12:36 PM
not sure if this hs been mentioned but when claire went aftre the wormhold guy, and sylar comes at one point he says when i touched you, i saw all the pain iv caused you. or something like that, and also if sylar touches his dad, he risks his dad taking his power doesnt he?

The Ninth Doctor
11-08-2008, 12:41 PM
He took Peters. Arthur, Peter and Gabriel are pretty much the same with their powers.

They are not, or at least Peter and Sylar have been demonstrated to be not.


Sylar's IA can not be stopped by Curare, or the Hatian, or the Shanti Virus, nor could it be automatically absorbed by Peter.

Peter's Power has been stopped by the Hatian and the Shanti Virus.

Phantom X
11-08-2008, 12:46 PM
when was perer infected with the shanti virus??

The Ninth Doctor
11-08-2008, 02:24 PM
*Doh*

Not the Shanti Virus.

alien_from_mars
11-13-2008, 05:52 PM
Sylar reminds me of Snape in this series, if anyone has read the Harry Potter books. We think he is a bad guy, but then think he is a good guy, then good guy gone bad? or good guy working for mum but pretending to be bad? I dunno! But to be honest I think Sylar doesnt know what he wants. I dunno if he belives Arthur or not, i gather he does have a plan, he usually does. ;) But he just wants to belong, and i genuinly think the one that gives him most attention will be the person he believes

haydenclaireheroes
11-13-2008, 05:53 PM
i think it is all part of his plan.