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DontCha
10-25-2008, 01:13 PM
..there are such things as having a friend for ages and then suddenly after a close moment you start to get feelings for them or you realize you have feelings for them

Its happened to me a bunch of times.

LOTS of relationships start out like this so I dont understand why people think its "unrealistic" for it to be happening to clark and Lois.


Please explain to me just WHY it is so darn "unrealisitic?"


They've NEVER hated eachother they've always been friends and have become better friends as time passed, they call it "love hate" but its not, love hate is another term for opposites attract. They've always had underlining sexual tension right from the get go. They'd both shown that they're physically attracted to one another a long time ago too

Siren/Apocalypse was the moment Lois began to see Clark differently, as in a love interest

Instinct/Committed is where its happened for Clark.

Dom20
10-26-2008, 03:25 AM
..there are such things as having a friend for ages and then suddenly after a close moment you start to get feelings for them or you realize you have feelings for them

Its happened to me a bunch of times.

LOTS of relationships start out like this so I dont understand why people think its "unrealistic" for it to be happening to clark and Lois.


Please explain to me just WHY it is so darn "unrealisitic?"


They've NEVER hated eachother they've always been friends and have become better friends as time passed, they call it "love hate" but its not, love hate is another term for opposites attract. They've always had underlining sexual tension right from the get go. They'd both shown that they're physically attracted to one another a long time ago too

Siren/Apocalypse was the moment Lois began to see Clark differently, as in a love interest

Instinct/Committed is where its happened for Clark.

I think your stretching it a bit with Siren/Apocalypse. In Siren, Clark was merely comforting her after her break up. Lots of friends do that, she did the same in the finale last season. Apocalypse never actually happened. It was all a vision of what would happen if Clark never existed. The writers should start giving Lois a chance to shine in the coming episodes and Clark should start noticing her more. Its too early to tell but Clark has to start showing his feelings too.

Mars Investigations
10-26-2008, 03:44 AM
I don't think it's unrealistic at all for two friends to slowly to become attracted to each other and for feelings to become more intense in a short period of time.

However, I'm not sure you can really mark a defining point where the attraction started to become clear to either character.

amberdawn
10-26-2008, 05:20 PM
It's not unrealistic at all. They've been friends for 4 years so I'm not really sure why people think that way. My mom married my step-dad after 6 weeks of knowing him, is that unrealistic? They've been married for almost 18 years and still love eachother.

herolee10
10-26-2008, 06:27 PM
..there are such things as having a friend for ages and then suddenly after a close moment you start to get feelings for them or you realize you have feelings for them

Its happened to me a bunch of times.

LOTS of relationships start out like this so I dont understand why people think its "unrealistic" for it to be happening to clark and Lois.


Please explain to me just WHY it is so darn "unrealisitic?"


They've NEVER hated eachother they've always been friends and have become better friends as time passed, they call it "love hate" but its not, love hate is another term for opposites attract. They've always had underlining sexual tension right from the get go. They'd both shown that they're physically attracted to one another a long time ago too

Siren/Apocalypse was the moment Lois began to see Clark differently, as in a love interest

Instinct/Committed is where its happened for Clark.

ITA with you, like usual Dontcha, you've hit the nail on the head..or something like that..haha

Lois's feelings especially has been growing for Clark ever since last season, it was just that she was very subtle about it, and probably didn't recognize it until the end of apocalypse. Clark has always been attracted to Lois, and considers her very special in his life.

I think in a sense, that with the four years of foundation they've had towards knowing each other, it seems very realistic that they would fall for each other at this time, since most of the factors....or obstacles they had in their lives have left them, so they're no able to see each other for who they really are and how they mean to each other.

DontCha
10-27-2008, 10:34 AM
I think your stretching it a bit with Siren/Apocalypse. In Siren, Clark was merely comforting her after her break up. Lots of friends do that, she did the same in the finale last season. Apocalypse never actually happened. It was all a vision of what would happen if Clark never existed. The writers should start giving Lois a chance to shine in the coming episodes and Clark should start noticing her more. Its too early to tell but Clark has to start showing his feelings too.

I dont mean the entire episode of Apocalypse, I mean the scene at the end in the real world at the DP. Lois tells Clark how much it meant that he was there for her in Siren, she wishes she could make him feel just as secure..then he says the line "you're a good friend Lois".

Clark has said similar things to her before, but THIS time., something quite different happens. Something I have never seen Lois do around clark before...ever. Lois Lane goes weak in the knees, realizes she has, then tries desperately to pretend it didnt happen. And from that moment she has never been the same around him. In season 8, this particular theme is continued, we see she loves him..but doesnt want to love him.

I saw Siren as the thing that triggered off her little eye opener in Apocalypse, They've never been that close before and Lois has never said anything like "I'd rather hang out with you" to clark either.. its all about the continuity, if they want to make it believable that Lois has just "woken up" romantically to clark in Apocalypse, then there needs to e something that happened previously which would make it credible..and so by season 8 when she's crushing HARD from the offset there needs to have been something previously to back this up, which was the end of season 7...during Sire, Apocalypse and Arctic.

EDIT - Also to add, I feel that the writers felt it important to show lois falling hard for clark in the AU so that we could easily spot her change of feelings in the real world later in the episode.

Clark has had his little eye opener at the end of Committed IMO..what caused that? Oh just the fact Lois said she loved him and he believed it..and loved it.

Lois basically says to him: think if you had to answer the question...he thinks for a second what his answer would be and bingo bango, accompanied by a rising orchestral score we get an answer written plainly across his face as the doors close.

Things will never be the same for him from this moment on.

Sweetie
10-27-2008, 03:57 PM
Are we still talking about this?It's not rushed at all because we are just witnessing the result now.They have been hints here and there for 4 years.Yes,they are always nicpicking,teasing each other.Couples do that when they are more than confortable with each other.So,what's the big deal?Never heard of opposite attraction?

pizzahead2490
10-27-2008, 04:49 PM
there was always something there between clark and lois. its not unrealistic that they have been freinds for 4 years and then lois start to realize she has feelings for him even if it happend in season 8, it has to happen some time.

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It's not unrealistic at all. They've been friends for 4 years so I'm not really sure why people think that way. My mom married my step-dad after 6 weeks of knowing him, is that unrealistic? They've been married for almost 18 years and still love eachother.

awww thats wonderful:D

Genny
10-27-2008, 08:23 PM
Ever since they met there's kind of been something there. And obviously they're friends, and they've been there for each other. That brings people closer together. And it's not unrealistic that they're suddenly realizing that their friendship is beginning to turn to something more, and they're starting to realize their feelings for one another.

zorasuperman
10-27-2008, 09:34 PM
yes thank you!
opposites attract
one can be hot the other cold
or in the words of lois lane:
"thats like hot fudge and halibut."
lol...

Tiggers
10-28-2008, 06:23 AM
It's not rushed at all! And given that this is Lois and Clark, most of us are shouting, "It's about damn time!"

And what's ironic is that both characters have had love interests over the years with most of them beginning and ending in one or several episodes and it's not questioned how rushed they were? (i.e. Clark/Kyla, Clark/Alicia, Lois/AC, Lois/Oliver). Whereas Clark and Lois had known each other for years.

unfocused
10-28-2008, 06:28 AM
It's not rushed :)

loislanechick
10-28-2008, 06:35 AM
It's not rushed, it's not unrealistic..why would anyone think that it's unrealistic :confused: The same thing happened to me and my boyfriend..we were friends for 5 years and we're madly in love with each other now :)

zorasuperman
10-28-2008, 06:19 PM
u wanna know wat relationship was rushed?

*when clark and alicia were getting married. granted clark was dosed on red k because of alicia (and dont get me wrong I love alicia too. shes a fav character of mine). but i had to take a double turn when clark said to alicia will you marry me? i was like ?@?@?@!!???

*lex wanting lana to get married to him. the speed they got married was fast. true their relationship wasnt really rushed as much compared to clark and alicia and lana being "pressured" would have been more dealing with the fact that she (thougth at the time) she was pregnant with lex's child.

lois and clark are like sooo not rushed. and as quoted above "its about damn time."

zHeN_zHeN
10-29-2008, 02:39 AM
If anything, they're going TOO slow -- slower than the average person would when they meet someone special.

Helloooooo?! Clark! She's right there... she's been right there in front of you this whole entire time! For goodness sakes man, even Bizarro noticed her. Gaaah!

Mad Madam Mimm
10-29-2008, 10:08 AM
I have to clarify something. I am one of the people who initially feared they would rush the development of the Clois. My fear was not that they were lightswitching the feelings, but rather that they would deny us the fun of watching Lois and Clark realize, acknowledge and finally, act on their feelings. I have always felt there were indicators all along the way that Clois was going to happen. There are numerous instances where there is the slightest shift in their interactions. They started out adversarial, bickering and finding each other annoying, but over time, that has changed.

I agree with the original post. I have experienced moments that shifted the balance of a friendship toward something more romantic. I just was worried the producers would be in a hurry to bring them together, and the audience would miss being able to follow Clois on their journeys together. Anticipation, like hunger, is one of the best spices. I was worried they would rush the getting together and skip over the about to get together. Not so worried about that now. The fact that they deleted the kiss in "Committed" speaks highly toward that fact.

At the beginning of this season, I was pretty sure S8 was the last and that is what spurred my concern that they would rush the Clois.

Wicked Lois
10-29-2008, 10:23 AM
Well, It's not rushed but, however, I feel it a little bit unrealistic because how theyīve written their story... I don't know, they were like brother and sister... but who I am kidding? I am loving every clois moment!!!

Sweetie
10-29-2008, 01:22 PM
^^
Sorry but,I don't buy the siblings argument.How in the world do people get the idea that they are acting like brother/sister.Sorry but,I don't look at my brother like Lois looks at Clark and vice versa.Those 2 have so much sexual tension between to light up every light on Brodway.Their nicpicking,teasing are a way to make a move on each other.If you still don't get it that means you will never the routine between Lois & clark.That's a part of the chase that everyone is talking about.Lois is not an easy target like Lana & Chloe.Clark will have to work much harder to impress her and win her heart.Say,may be live a double life,who knows :)

justme_007
10-29-2008, 01:23 PM
MOD EDIT

eas
10-29-2008, 01:32 PM
Chemistry is subjective.

I think there's another thread with this exact same subject & I posted long and well-thought out answers. I'm too exhausted to re-post, so I'll just direct everyone to that thread for my thoughts on this.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103928&referrerid=25214

individuall
10-29-2008, 01:33 PM
Itīs rushed.... because there is no chemistry between them... and you know that, but sometimes you donīt want to face reality. ED is not like Teri Hatcher . Her chemistry with Dean Cain was awesome, since the first episode , and no one can deny that... but this Clois is not worthy.

OK. It's okay that you don't see chemistry between SVClois...That's your perception...But chemistry is VERY subjective...I think TW/ED have AMAZING chemistry...Since S4 when she found him naked in a corn field I've thought they've sizzled together on screen...But that's my perception..People view things differently...
But that doesn't mean I'm wrong for seeing it...Or that your wrong for not..
Different strokes for different folks..

IA. About TH/DC I thought they had very palpable chemistry also :)

Sweetie
10-29-2008, 03:24 PM
OK. It's okay that you don't see chemistry between SVClois...That's your perception...But chemistry is VERY subjective...I think TW/ED have AMAZING chemistry...Since S4 when she found him naked in a corn field I've thought they've sizzled together on screen...But that's my perception..People view things differently...
But that doesn't mean I'm wrong for seeing it...Or that your wrong for not..
Different strokes for different folks..

IA. About TH/DC I thought they had very palpable chemistry also :)


I totally agree.They could melted TV's screens with their sizzling chemistry.


By the way,don't waste your time responding to people who think they are always right.It's a lost cause ;)

individuall
10-29-2008, 03:27 PM
^Yeah.. I know...But I felt the need to say something and couldn't keep my big mouth...er..fingers...uh...Shut?

Well..You know what I mean :D

Sweetie
10-29-2008, 03:41 PM
^Yeah.. I know...But I felt the need to say something and couldn't keep my big mouth...er..fingers...uh...Shut?

Well..You know what I mean :D


Yeah but,it's giving them opportunities to start shipper's wars and we have enough of those on this forum :rolleyes:

Iluvgreen
10-29-2008, 06:21 PM
..there are such things as having a friend for ages and then suddenly after a close moment you start to get feelings for them or you realize you have feelings for them

Its happened to me a bunch of times.

LOTS of relationships start out like this so I dont understand why people think its "unrealistic" for it to be happening to clark and Lois.


Please explain to me just WHY it is so darn "unrealisitic?"


They've NEVER hated eachother they've always been friends and have become better friends as time passed, they call it "love hate" but its not, love hate is another term for opposites attract. They've always had underlining sexual tension right from the get go. They'd both shown that they're physically attracted to one another a long time ago too

Siren/Apocalypse was the moment Lois began to see Clark differently, as in a love interest

Instinct/Committed is where its happened for Clark.


im totally with you. i think they have been develping for years.

except it seemed that when lois first met Clark, she had feelings for him. maybe not that strong. but she put them away because he was in love with lana. and never started noticing again until now-ish.

and clark always loved her he was just too clingy to lana. like a koala bear. :lol:

pizzahead2490
10-29-2008, 08:47 PM
clark and lois has amazing chemistry between each other and its not all rushed one bit.