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xrayvision
10-23-2008, 06:35 PM
I really wonder if Davis is from Krypton or if he was an experiment by Lex. Davis is starting to think he's a killer. So I'm guessing that he's not an alien, otherwise he would know he was from Krypton.
Instead he admitted he bounced from one foster home to another as a child. Something had to have happened to him along the way, or he had to have been dropped off on Earth by someone (his creator). I'm starting to think that Davis is the real Traveler and is the terrible danger that Lionel was warning about.
REebee52
10-23-2008, 07:11 PM
The Traveler was supposed to save the world.
TPTB have stated that as we go along, his origin will be more like it was in the comics. My question is: How did he have a childhood? I don't want to hear 'bout no baby doomsday.
Doomsday666
10-23-2008, 07:23 PM
Doomsday Wars
cksidekick
10-23-2008, 07:29 PM
xrayvision, I'm wondering if he is a bit of both a Krytonian experement and a Luthor project...perhaps all of this "Human Stuff" has simply been implanted into the Alien Monster...but it isn't sticking...intentional or not, the Human implanted DNA is losing out...
roccanater
10-23-2008, 07:35 PM
xrayvision, I'm wondering if he is a bit of both a Krytonian experement and a Luthor project...perhaps all of this "Human Stuff" has simply been implanted into the Alien Monster...but it isn't sticking...intentional or not, the Human implanted DNA is losing out...
That's a good theory.
AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 07:38 PM
I dont know....because he was discussing how he has had these black outs since he was a kid. And I find it ironic he shows up just as Chloe is infected by Brainiac...
My theory is, he mentions in the episode how he's never been close to anyone. When he would feel comfortable with people...thats usually when he would be bounced from one foster home to another.
So Davis mentions he feels Chloe was sent to him (obviously a kryptonian connection going on) so now that he is letting his guard down with Chloe....Doomsday is coming out.
He has always felt this darkness waiting to come out...and I think all it takes is him truly letting his guard down...which he is doing with Chloe.
Maybe??? :lol:
xrayvision
10-23-2008, 07:41 PM
I don't see how it's possible that he has an origin like the comics where he was never human, but instead a cloned monster experiment. In the comics, he was killed & re-cloned over many, many years. He was pretty much an ancient being who Bertron experimented on & killed until he couldn't be killed anymore. If he actually did have a childhood on Earth (he must have, otherwise he wouldn't have questioned himself about being the killer), then how is it possible he was a pre-Kryptonian lifeform?
Maybe in Smallville it will be explained that Bertron dropped him off on Earth after the final cloning that makes him impervious to all his previous deaths & an unstoppable monster. Perhaps Bertron in Smallville will be explained as being just as hopeful in dropping Davis/Doomsday on Earth as Jor-El was with Clark. Maybe Bertron thought that as an infant raised by humans, Doomsday would turn out not to be a monster or would be able to stay in his human form.
I like what they're doing with Davis, but still have to say that I wish they wouldn't refer to him as Doomsday since he's so different from the comic version.
Meteror Freak
10-23-2008, 07:42 PM
I had a traveler theory about doomsday. According to edward teague, for every prophecy about the traveler that was good, there was one that portrayed him as evil. So maybe Davis is the dark one.
xrayvision
10-23-2008, 07:50 PM
xrayvision, I'm wondering if he is a bit of both a Krytonian experement and a Luthor project...perhaps all of this "Human Stuff" has simply been implanted into the Alien Monster...but it isn't sticking...intentional or not, the Human implanted DNA is losing out...
That's along the lines of what I think. I think his creator made a human looking body for him (to contain the monster) and that body is slowly being compromised by the monster within.
ChronX4
10-23-2008, 07:53 PM
All I know is that I don't want to see a hesitant Doomsday due to Davis "fighting" him.
Kal26
10-23-2008, 08:00 PM
I like your most recent explanation xray. I for one am tired of waiting to see him. I can't wait to see what he's going to look like, and I can't wait for the monumental battle that I hope is coming between Clark and Doomsday.
ClarkyBoy14
10-23-2008, 08:03 PM
I don't see how it's possible that he has an origin like the comics where he was never human, but instead a cloned monster experiment. In the comics, he was killed & re-cloned over many, many years. He was pretty much an ancient being who Bertron experimented on & killed until he couldn't be killed anymore. If he actually did have a childhood on Earth (he must have, otherwise he wouldn't have questioned himself about being the killer), then how is it possible he was a pre-Kryptonian lifeform?
Maybe in Smallville it will be explained that Bertron dropped him off on Earth after the final cloning that makes him impervious to all his previous deaths & an unstoppable monster. Perhaps Bertron in Smallville will be explained as being just as hopeful in dropping Davis/Doomsday on Earth as Jor-El was with Clark. Maybe Bertron thought that as an infant raised by humans, Doomsday would turn out not to be a monster or would be able to stay in his human form.
I like what they're doing with Davis, but still have to say that I wish they wouldn't refer to him as Doomsday since he's so different from the comic version.
I think that's a good theory. I believe that it also may be possible that somehow Doomsday was fused with a human's body, and sometimes comes to the surface.
AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 08:07 PM
I think that's a good theory. I believe that it also may be possible that somehow Doomsday was fused with a human's body, and sometimes comes to the surface.
I kind of wish this was the case so chloe and davis could possibly be together?? :lol:
I think most likely Dooms was placed in a human form..and he's slowly coming out. But it must have taken a long time...because Davis said his blackouts have happend his entire life?? :\
Doomsday666
10-23-2008, 08:13 PM
Who cares? what they are doing is actually really cool and Davis is Hot
Nibiru
10-23-2008, 08:28 PM
Doomsday shouldnt have an inner turmoil. He should be an unstoppable engine of destruction. Clarks absolute opposite and most dangerous enemy yet. I Know this will all pay of in the end in what should make the fight with Titan in "COMBAT" look like a picnic!!!
xrayvision
10-23-2008, 08:31 PM
I like your most recent explanation xray. I for one am tired of waiting to see him. I can't wait to see what he's going to look like, and I can't wait for the monumental battle that I hope is coming between Clark and Doomsday.
That battle is most likely what the majority of the budget is going to be used for. I just hope the actors' strike doesn't happen to ruin everything.
ClarkyBoy14
10-23-2008, 08:37 PM
I kind of wish this was the case so chloe and davis could possibly be together?? :lol:
I think most likely Dooms was placed in a human form..and he's slowly coming out. But it must have taken a long time...because Davis said his blackouts have happend his entire life?? :\
I guess it has to do with Brainiac inside of Chloe?
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That battle is most likely what the majority of the budget is going to be used for. I just hope the actors' strike doesn't happen to ruin everything.
I hope that doesn't happen. :(
Nibiru
10-23-2008, 08:58 PM
davis doesn't seem to have any alterior motive or underlying knowledge of what he is exactly.
bizzaro93
10-23-2008, 09:05 PM
What about Project Ares? Lex's super soldier project. What if Doomsday is a experiment gone wrong. I know that Ares was started by Lex 3 years ago and Davis had blackouts as a kid but it's just a thought. Maybe some Kryptonian voodo along with Ares = Doomsday. It could be a possible Origin.
Sorry CKsidekick, i swear i didn't copy your post. I thought of the idea, posted it, then read yours.
dimefan90
10-23-2008, 09:28 PM
for some reason i always think of the first species movie human and alien dna combined but the alien dna takes over...
maybe an alien that worked on the doomsday project somehow sent data to earth and lex got hold of it and tried to create a doomsday, but got a lame hybrid.
THIS IS NOT THE REAL DOOMSDAY!!!!!!!!!!
Bre723
10-23-2008, 10:21 PM
this is what wikapedia said "Doomsday is created in the distant past on Krypton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypton_%28planet%29), long before the humanoid Kryptonian race had gained dominance over the planet."
superspider02
10-23-2008, 10:28 PM
Yea i cant wait to see how this Smallville doomsday turns out. I have been thinking at first maybe they are going the route of the more recent doosmday in the comics which was a human experimented on and then becomes a doomsday mosnter, or maybe he will be alien in origin. Maybe he was another experiment going on in krypton it failed so they sent it out into space, it crashed landed on earth, and was a human like form and then......
xrayvision
10-23-2008, 10:29 PM
this is what wikapedia said "Doomsday is created in the distant past on Krypton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypton_%28planet%29), long before the humanoid Kryptonian race had gained dominance over the planet."
Yeah, that's his origin in the comics. I knew that. What I don't know is what his Smallville origin will be. I threw out a few ideas though based on the comics origin.
It kinda sucked that we didn't really get a preview of what Doomsday is going to look like. As I recall, there was no horns like in the preview for the episode which sucked (or maybe I missed it). I did however like the apparent tension between Clark and Doomsday/Davis. It's a foreshadow into the battle of the super aliens. I wonder if they are going with the comics approach of killing clark for the finale. Maybe who knows. And what the hell is up with the cape thing in the preview for next week's episode? What was that all about? I guess they did break the no flight rule so I guess it was only a matter of time before they break the no tights rule eh?
Kalista
10-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Maybe in Smallville it will be explained that Bertron dropped him off on Earth after the final cloning that makes him impervious to all his previous deaths & an unstoppable monster. Perhaps Bertron in Smallville will be explained as being just as hopeful in dropping Davis/Doomsday on Earth as Jor-El was with Clark. Maybe Bertron thought that as an infant raised by humans, Doomsday would turn out not to be a monster or would be able to stay in his human form.
That's an interesting theory and it reminds of the theory that Davis is really a dark mirror of Clark.
Spirit Detective
10-23-2008, 11:54 PM
I think Brainiac was involved somehow.
jon-el87
10-24-2008, 03:03 AM
In ''Quest'', Edward Teague mentioned to Clark, that before the Kryptonian race, there were a race of science, who were warriors. In ''Blue'' Zor-El mentioned to have traveled to Earth several times (not just in the flashbacks in ''Lara''). In the same episode Jor-El mentions that his brothers experiments were motivated by power and greed.
Davis Bloome's parents died due to unknown circumstances and he was left orphaned.
It's possible, that Zor-El experimented and managed to re-create one of the ancient warrior race. Then, for some reason, he decided to take the being to Earth (possibly to hide it, from the science council and Jor-El, who all felt it was to dangerous and wanted to destroy it, before it could harm anyone). Zor-El then found the infant David Bloome and his parents. He took some of Davis' DNA and then genetically engineered Doomsday, causing the monster to assume the form of the Infant David Bloome and then killed both the real Davis Bloome and his parents, before abandoning Doomsday/Davis on Earth. And now, suddenly, the genetic engineering in his DNA has started to fail, causing Davis to start revert from time to time to Doomsday, While it also tries to keep Doomsday in the form of the human Davis Bloome (which is why he then transforms back into Davis).
hopeless
10-24-2008, 05:19 AM
Do you remember the name of the scientist Brainiac killed to restore himself?
What if the reason he was on Earth was to keep an eye on Davis?
It could be he was Bizarro's true body and when the Kryptonian high council tried to kill him his spirit ended up in the pz but his body survived and was brought to earth secretly since the scientist responsible thought he could insure Bizarro remained a harmless human?
jimmyolsenblues
10-24-2008, 06:03 AM
if he is doomsday how can the needle puncture his skin?
ColdPlay3r
10-24-2008, 06:18 AM
^sumfin fishy bout that needle den
jon-el87
10-24-2008, 07:41 AM
Do you remember the name of the scientist Brainiac killed to restore himself?
What if the reason he was on Earth was to keep an eye on Davis?
It could be he was Bizarro's true body and when the Kryptonian high council tried to kill him his spirit ended up in the pz but his body survived and was brought to earth secretly since the scientist responsible thought he could insure Bizarro remained a harmless human?
You mean Dax-Ur. He left Krypton over a hundred years ago and went underground, never being in contact with another Kryptonian again, before he met Clark and was later killed by Brainiac. So, I doubt Dax-Ur had anything to do with Doomsday and Davis.
SVsleuth
10-24-2008, 09:52 AM
Maybe it's similar to what's happening with Chloe. Brainiac is regenerating inside of Chloe, & Doomsday is regenerating inside of Davis...
stenochick
10-24-2008, 10:29 AM
I really wonder if Davis is from Krypton or if he was an experiment by Lex. Davis is starting to think he's a killer. So I'm guessing that he's not an alien, otherwise he would know he was from Krypton.
Instead he admitted he bounced from one foster home to another as a child. Something had to have happened to him along the way, or he had to have been dropped off on Earth by someone (his creator). I'm starting to think that Davis is the real Traveler and is the terrible danger that Lionel was warning about.
I think "all of the above." Davis is from Krypton, an experiment by Lex or inadvertantly unleashed by Lex, and the terrible danger that Lionel warned about. There is a cool thread about this in the spoilers and speculation area.
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Maybe Davis crash landed on earth as a toddler during the meteor shower just like Clark did. Instead of being secretly adopted by a loving couple, he was taken to child protective services and placed in the foster care system.
justme_007
10-24-2008, 10:54 AM
i just remember the words of the writer of Legion. He said something like (iīm not quoting) i didnīt know why doomsday can be in a human form , but know i know that itīs going to be creepy as hellll!!! and i think comic readers will be very happy with smallville version.
He is writer of comics, and if he said that, it has to be good for viewers. I canīt wait for doomsday
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