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xrayvision
10-23-2008, 06:15 PM
This is what I've been waiting for a long time. He's finally being the responsible person he should have been. I'm very interested in seeing how he will find out the truth about Davis.

Luthor5339
10-23-2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah, plus wonder if the teens on the younger kid were messing around or if Clark just stopped bullies. Lol. Don't know how to read it, but either way that was another awesome save.

curiosity
10-23-2008, 06:17 PM
Totally loved it.

xrayvision
10-23-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah, plus wonder if the teens on the younger kid were messing around or if Clark just stopped bullies. Lol. Don't know how to read it, but either way that was another awesome save.

I thought he swooped in & took them down. That younger kid was pretty funny with his fists out. He reminded me of Ryan.

Krpyto
10-23-2008, 07:01 PM
Woot!


2 Thumbs Up on Clark stepping up to the plate!

Bout time too!

Dodge006
10-23-2008, 07:02 PM
He is?????

wellluv
10-23-2008, 07:11 PM
no he's not as the show progresses it just keeps showing him as a jerk that must get his way...

Krpyto
10-23-2008, 07:18 PM
WTF ever.

He is putting his moral elitism ahead of everything else. I hate to be the one to break it to you but that is why he is referred to as "Boy Scout."

Besides all that he is embracing his destiny. He is taking on the bad guys, he is saving people, he is slowly assuming the role of "Superman" and not sitting back at the farm watching the cows moo.

Maybe not everyone like the steps and progression but I do. One can see he is making the steps necessary to get to where he eventually needs to be.

Kal26
10-23-2008, 07:50 PM
I've always seen this Clark as Superman. This is by far my favorite interpretation of the character. I agree that he is closer to taking up the mantle though.

Chulance
10-23-2008, 07:58 PM
I wonder if he will ever were the costume or will he fight at super speed.

unfocused
10-23-2008, 08:01 PM
He isn't Superman yet, but when he does become him, he will be one of the best interpretations ever.

davidbrenton
10-23-2008, 08:03 PM
I hope it starts next week. Once "Superman" is thrown around as often as "meteor freak" on this show, we'll know we've arrived.

myankskent
10-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Clark made a mistake in this episode by taking the names from Chloe without permission. It was wrong of him to do that and he apologized for it. However, if Clark is going to be making mistakes on this show, these are the kind of mistakes that I want him to make. If saving people is something that he crosses the moral line on once or twice, that's fine by me. It's better than him throwing on a redK ring or something and robbing banks. As he makes these mistakes, he will learn from it. Finally, TPTB are breaking new ground with Clark's character this season and really starting to attack the ways in which he saves people and how that can expose him as well, which is why he'll need a dual identity.

wellluv
10-23-2008, 08:09 PM
i just don't see it yet personally, he's bossy, paranoid, rash by jumping to conclusions, he sees things in black and white idk hopefully it turns around convincingly but w/e im gonna go read watchmen

unfocused
10-23-2008, 08:13 PM
Yeah, funny scene.

Clark; coming to terms with his destiny :) The way he is beginning to feel the worlds need for him in this episode reminds a lot of the way he handled Dark Thursday, when he forced himself to go out and help Metropolis with his powers. He didn't rest, he was a man on a mission, and I always wished they had showed him going out and helping onscreen. Now, in Prey, we saw a very nice glimpse of it. I'm happy about that.

WickedJenn
10-23-2008, 08:14 PM
I love Clark more and more each episode this season.

He's accepted that there's more out there than just Smallville, but he's now realizing that it's going to take a lot more work than he probably thought initially.

And you know what? That's good.

Yes, he's going to make some mistakes but the material point is that he is making them embracing his destiny, finally, after 7 years.

Look at what we've got so far this season--he's a reporter at the DP, he's proactive, he's become much more independent, he's finally not ashamed of his powers or that he is who he is, he's more confident, and best of all, he's more Supermanly! I know there are rumblings about how he got into the DP, etc etc. But hey, even if it wasn't written in the best way, I'm just happy he's there.

Since this show, alll the shipping stuff aside, is about Clark's journey (journey being the operative word there), we get to see it all...the good and the not so good, and I'll be watching every step of the way. I am, above all, a Superman fan, and the more I see SVClark resemble that, the happier I am :)

colibri
10-23-2008, 08:15 PM
He might have been doing the heroics this episode but he needed to work on his personality this episode. He was doing better in his earlier episodes this season.

Sorry, I liked the episode but this was bugging me no end. :p Well, at least he wasn't moping.

Nibiru
10-23-2008, 08:16 PM
This was a solid episode. Im glad "Doomsday" hasn't been completley unveiled yet. Exciting stuff!!!

Alexander III
10-23-2008, 08:17 PM
I thought he swooped in & took them down. That younger kid was pretty funny with his fists out. He reminded me of Ryan.

That liddo kid was punching air! :lol::rotfl:

ClarkyBoy14
10-23-2008, 08:19 PM
I agree that he was a bit of a jerk in this episode: to both Davis and Chloe. But he was doing it because he was wanting to save people. Like myankskent said, I'm glad that they're showing his flaws, flaws that he needs to correct, and work on, before he dons the tights. :)

SpiritedDiva
10-23-2008, 08:20 PM
Yes. His heroics made me smile. About time you grew up Peter.

WickedJenn
10-23-2008, 08:20 PM
Clark made a mistake in this episode by taking the names from Chloe without permission. It was wrong of him to do that and he apologized for it. However, if Clark is going to be making mistakes on this show, these are the kind of mistakes that I want him to make. If saving people is something that he crosses the moral line on once or twice, that's fine by me. It's better than him throwing on a redK ring or something and robbing banks. As he makes these mistakes, he will learn from it. Finally, TPTB are breaking new ground with Clark's character this season and really starting to attack the ways in which he saves people and how that can expose him as well, which is why he'll need a dual identity.

Haha, wow I totally didn't see your post. Well, mine pretty much stays the same thing :lol:

unfocused
10-23-2008, 08:21 PM
That liddo kid was punching air! :lol::rotfl:Yes, he was adorable as he beat up the air. I'm glad they threw in some random humor for once :lol:

xrayvision
10-23-2008, 08:21 PM
Yeah, funny scene.

Clark; coming to terms with his destiny :) The way he is beginning to feel the worlds need for him in this episode reminds a lot of the way he handled Dark Thursday, when he forced himself to go out and help Metropolis with his powers. He didn't rest, he was a man on a mission, and I always wished they had showed him going out and helping onscreen. Now, in Prey, we saw a very nice glimpse of it. I'm happy about that.

It was so cool how he did almost all the researching himself, using those brains that Al/Miles put on the fritz for the last few years. I liked how Jimmy helped him and how there was no angst between them this time.

Alexander III
10-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Yes, he was adorable as he beat up the air. I'm glad they threw in some random humor for once :lol:

And the funny part was when he really thought he knocked them out conscious! :lol:

davidbrenton
10-23-2008, 08:24 PM
finally.

unfocused
10-23-2008, 08:26 PM
It was so cool how he did almost all the researching himself, using those brains that Al/Miles put on the fritz for the last few years. I liked how Jimmy helped him and how there was no angst between them this time.

Exactly. I especially loved the part where he said "I speed read it," when referring to memorizing Chloe's list.

I remember reading the books and Lois would walk past Clark with a stack of papers about her current story. Clark would use his X-ray vision and super speed to read each of the pages when she would ask him about it. This was one of my favorite things he would do, so conniving and clever :lol:

myankskent
10-23-2008, 08:29 PM
Haha, wow I totally didn't see your post. Well, mine pretty much stays the same thing :lol:

Great minds think alike.:)

BadToad
10-23-2008, 08:36 PM
I think its important to remember that Clark is learning as he goes, and its not like there's a roadmap or instructions how one goes about being a hero and savior. He's muddling through it just like most people would. He's made the commitment to it now. He's embraced the role, possibly too forcefully. He's even putting the needs of people over his own protection. But at the same time, he's struggling with the very real questions of how far should he go? What methods are OK to use to save a life? to save a dozen? Does he need to trust his own instincts above all, or should be back off to spare a friends feelings? Even if he thinks doing so might put people at danger?

There are a lot of things to weigh here, and it seems the only way Clark is going to find the path is for him to actually walk it, and find out what works for him, and what doesn't.

As for Clark thinking he was right, well, He Was Right! Not only about one of the people on that list being bad news, but about Davis. Its just that he doesn't know he was right about Davis yet. Also, it would be pretty standard police procedure to want to talk to the members of a voluntary help ground if one of the members was brutally murdered directly after leaving. Clark's request to Chloe, or his turning the names over to the police was actually not that outlandish. I think Chloe is being very naive here.

I'm very glad that Clark is embracing his role as a being that can make a difference and help people and save lives. Now he just needs to figure out how to balance that with having a life for himself, and he has to find the boundaries he can live with.

Merfish
10-23-2008, 08:39 PM
What???
Clark Kent can't be superman!!
KAL-EL IS SUPERMAN

you all need to fact check stuff

WickedJenn
10-23-2008, 08:41 PM
Ooook then...

zorasuperman
10-23-2008, 08:50 PM
yes i too am excited that clark is starting to save people
i mean the amount of lives he saved is incredible

zorasuperman
10-23-2008, 08:54 PM
i dont think hes superman just YET
very very very very very lol very close hes like at the tiny edge
but soon very soon he will be superman just needs to don that superman outfit grrrrrr

Kalista
10-23-2008, 08:56 PM
I had a big grin on my face watching Clark save people. :D

BadToad
10-23-2008, 08:57 PM
I love that they're having him do this, and I love that he's completely embraced it. To the point of obsession. Because I think it feels realistic for Clark to have to take some time to get the balance right. At the moment, he's thinking he has to save everyone, and make up for lost time, and if he fails at all, its all his fault. He needs to gain better perspective, and I believe he will. Even at the end of the episode, I felt like he was adjusting his ideas.

Fallen One
10-23-2008, 09:03 PM
I don't see any mistake in Clark taking those names. Mrs. Hacker got some nerve getting upset at ANYONE from stealing ANYTHING.

One of the victims was a part of her "counseling" group. It made 100% logical sense for Clark to start his investigation there. She tried to be a snob but Clark still got the info anyways. As he should have.

Chloe's feelings are not > stopping crime. Cut the ego at the door. If you believe in your "kids" that much, clear their name. Otherwise, step out of the way and let Clark do what he does best.

And Clark was right, on both accounts. And she was wrong.

Nibiru
10-23-2008, 09:04 PM
they need to put him in those tights.. ITS TIME!!!

ClarksGal
10-23-2008, 09:06 PM
Clark made a mistake in this episode by taking the names from Chloe without permission. It was wrong of him to do that and he apologized for it. However, if Clark is going to be making mistakes on this show, these are the kind of mistakes that I want him to make. If saving people is something that he crosses the moral line on once or twice, that's fine by me. It's better than him throwing on a redK ring or something and robbing banks. As he makes these mistakes, he will learn from it. Finally, TPTB are breaking new ground with Clark's character this season and really starting to attack the ways in which he saves people and how that can expose him as well, which is why he'll need a dual identity.

ITA. This is a journey, and it's cool with me if he has to try to figure out how far to go. He's only just learning how to be this person he has decided to be...he's going to have to work through what that means. He's still defining himself. And I am loving watching it!!!!!

ClarksGal
10-23-2008, 09:11 PM
I love that they're having him do this, and I love that he's completely embraced it. To the point of obsession. Because I think it feels realistic for Clark to have to take some time to get the balance right. At the moment, he's thinking he has to save everyone, and make up for lost time, and if he fails at all, its all his fault. He needs to gain better perspective, and I believe he will. Even at the end of the episode, I felt like he was adjusting his ideas.


Again, I totally agree with you. And this is still in character for him, because he's always blamed himself for stuff like this when it came to his friends. Now that he's taking a wider responsibiliity, he's going to have to learn how to take a step back sometimes. I thought they touched on some really cool issues tonight that I guess I'd never thought about in terms of how Superman would have to be OK if, for instance, he decides to go out to dinner instead of saving someone's life in China. Every minute he's off the clock, people die.

Dor el
10-23-2008, 09:14 PM
I agree. Clark was right about the meteor freak in Chloe's little group and about Davis. Like Bad Toad, Clark was right on both counts; he and Mrs. Hacker holier than thou, do not yet know he was right.

On another note, I was very glad to see Clark use that superior intellect of his. Even Jonn seemed surprised.

SnowBird
10-23-2008, 09:18 PM
It was great seeing Clark speeding around the city saving people. As others have said, it will take some time to adjust being obsessive about his new found saving the world attitude. I have to say though that people in this forum including me knows what it is like being obsessive about something you care about namely, Smallville which should result in some understanding for Clark. I have faith that Clark will find that place between being a reporter and super hero and spending time for personal matters.

Dor el
10-23-2008, 09:23 PM
It was so cool how he did almost all the researching himself, using those brains that Al/Miles put on the fritz for the last few years. I liked how Jimmy helped him and how there was no angst between them this time.

Yeah, I like Clark and Jimmy teaming up way better than Chloe and Jimmy. Get your minds on track, people. I mean as an investigative team.

Yes, it is nice seeing Clark so concerned about saving others. Got Lana out of the picture and low and behold...Superman starts taking shape.

xrayvision
10-23-2008, 09:27 PM
Again, I totally agree with you. And this is still in character for him, because he's always blamed himself for stuff like this when it came to his friends. Now that he's taking a wider responsibiliity, he's going to have to learn how to take a step back sometimes. I thought they touched on some really cool issues tonight that I guess I'd never thought about in terms of how Superman would have to be OK if, for instance, he decides to go out to dinner instead of saving someone's life in China. Every minute he's off the clock, people die.

And Superman does this with Lois when he leaves while she wants him to hang around. It's all about devoting himself to humanity as a whole and not a single person. That's what makes him Superman.

jimmyolsenblues
10-23-2008, 09:39 PM
This is what I've been waiting for a long time. He's finally being the responsible person he should have been. I'm very interested in seeing how he will find out the truth about Davis.

i agree it was great to see clark in action.

Iluvgreen
10-23-2008, 09:45 PM
I know right!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jazzylg
10-23-2008, 10:35 PM
It was great seeing clark save people. Just imagine what he'll do when he can fly, and not rely on the radio. I see he's using his super hearing every episode. The way John Jones was forshadowing the need for a secret identity was awesome.

cygnusx1
10-23-2008, 10:40 PM
well i'll say this, it looks like he isn't afraid to use his powers in public anymore

minerva73
10-23-2008, 10:40 PM
I also love how they've done that with Clark. :D

And it's not random at all since he's actually at the source of the action, so he can get out as fast as he can. Sure he may be kind of sloppy while doing it, but at least he's being proactive about it and not playing house in his spare time. I'm glad that they actually showed more than one rescue this time too (so it didn't seem like a one-time thing like in Bizarro).

ginnyfan
10-24-2008, 12:33 AM
I love that they're having him do this, and I love that he's completely embraced it. To the point of obsession. Because I think it feels realistic for Clark to have to take some time to get the balance right. At the moment, he's thinking he has to save everyone, and make up for lost time, and if he fails at all, its all his fault. He needs to gain better perspective, and I believe he will. Even at the end of the episode, I felt like he was adjusting his ideas.

I completely agree. Clark is figuring things out... trying to find balance. I love that when MM points this out Clark doesn't get mopey or whiny. Ok he does for a moment during the episode but for the most part he's stubborn, driven and defensive.

IloveClark
10-24-2008, 12:35 AM
About time Clark got his cute butt in gear.I could do without Jimmy.

Timester
10-24-2008, 02:49 AM
What???
Clark Kent can't be superman!!
KAL-EL IS SUPERMAN

you all need to fact check stuff

Not since 1986. Clark became Superman even before he knew about Krypton.

You better check the facts.


Anyway, Clark is FINALLY doing the same mistakes that Superman did, especially on JLU.

cloisornothing
10-24-2008, 02:55 AM
Clark is moving on! At last! Superman is on the way definitively! But if Lana is on the road (8.10 Bride), we'll gonna see our Classic Clark on Smallville, I mean sad and tortured Clark.

But what I like the most was Martian Manhunter speech about double identity.

Chulance
10-24-2008, 06:11 AM
This is good but Jimmy is a problem to clark jimmy is determined to expose the hero

Kalista
10-24-2008, 06:14 AM
I know some people thought it was corny but I liked when Clark threw the tire. It reminded me when Clark threw that bowling ball to save Ryan.:lol:

skylar
10-24-2008, 07:18 AM
I know some people thought it was corny but I liked when Clark threw the tire. It reminded me when Clark threw that bowling ball to save Ryan.:lol:

Pretty funny

zorasuperman
10-24-2008, 08:10 AM
lol yea i tried to get my brother into watching smallville and told him it was the beginnings of superman
it was season 6/7 ish and needless to say he wasnt happy he was like "they turned superman into a soap opera"
tonights scenes actually had him asking "hey wat show is this"
and i said smallville :D
so yes i am happy that they have clark kent being more superman lyish lol that is SOO not a word

LovelyLoisLane
10-24-2008, 08:19 AM
Clark and Martian Manhunter were the only characters I really enjoyed tonight. Jimmy was too boring, Chloe was meaner and Davis was kind of . . . pathetic?

Ehh. I have hopes for him though. I love how Chloe is actively running Isis and I love how Jimmy was out there getting back into the DP saddle, but I just wasn't feeling their characters.

Martian Manhunter, great!

Superman? Yes that is right THEE Superman was on the show in this episode and I loved it. I squealed like a teeny bopper during those first moments of heroism. It rocked the awesome.

SVsleuth
10-24-2008, 08:56 AM
As for Clark, last year all he wanted to do was settle down on the farm with Lana and live happily ever after, ignoring his abilities and the needs of the world. Now, it seems he's gone to the opposite extreme - he now thinks it's his responsibility to save everyone, & he goes around accusing people and acting as if he alone is above the law. It seems he's regressed. I thought this kind of thing was brought up previously - I can't remember exactly when at the moment, but I seem to recall Clark going around acting all high & mighty, accusing people, & Lana or Chloe calling him out for it. It's taking Clark far too long to get it, & it makes him seem like an idiot.

MM calls it right: obsession. And I can see that Clark's replaced his obsession with Lana with an obsession with saving everyone. And here he is again, taking all the guilt upon himself for every person that isn't saved.

Also, he's out there ready to go after all of the meteor infected, wanting to protect all of their victims, but he fails to see that they are often victims too. Lana saw that. That's why she started ISIS. Clark still doesn't get it. He's stuck back on "protecting people from meteor freaks" when he's supposed to be focused on "protecting the planet from alien threats". He's TRYING to be a hero, but he has no clue how to go about it, & still doesn't grasp what it is that the world needs him for.

I found it awkward that Clark is going around assuming meteor freaks are the murderers, and basically saying so to Chloe's face, knowing she is one of them. It makes Clark seem so un-compassionate.

Kevin24
10-24-2008, 11:05 AM
I have to disagree with your view on Clark during Prey.

Clark only implied that Davis might be the one behind the murders and he is right. Clark may not know it yet but his instinct is spot on when it comes to linking Davis with the murders.

He wasn't acting high and mighty thinking he is above the law. He wanted leads and after seeing the video of the attack on the ace of clubs he realized that someone with abilities was the cause of what happened there. He then went to ask Chloe for some names of meteor infected people so he can have John Jones interview them for possible suspects. It's part of police investigations to go through every lead possible for clues.

Clark was also correct in thinking it was a meteor freak because it was and he was also on the list of Chloe's support group. He normally does not assume meteor freaks are murders and he knows they are victims too and he sympathizes with them. In Prey he saw that only someone with powers was capable of doing what happened at the ace of clubs.

Clark was protecting everyone that needed protecting. He didn't hold bias when he was out there saving people. He only sees those who need protecting and those he needs to protect people from.

He was being obsessive when it came to saving people because he doesn't want anyone to be hurt or killed because he wasn't there to stop it from happening. He knew that the ISIS foundation had a big database of meteor freaks and he wanted to find the one responsible as soon as possible so no more killings would happen.

Clark was compassionate throughout the epsiode. If he wasn't then he wouldn't have done anything.

xrayvision
10-24-2008, 11:41 AM
Nicely said Kevin. Clark at first thanks to clues was led in Davis' direction. Then, when he was thrown off by the copy cat & removed his suspicions from Davis, he had no evidence that the killer could have been anyone other than a freak since he doesn't know about any other aliens on the planet.

LovelyLoisLane
10-24-2008, 11:56 AM
I didn't think he was that much of a jerk, I think he got a bit nasty with Chloe over the Kumbaya thing, but it WAS one of the Isis kids that was responsible for some of the troubles.

It was either a meteor freak, an alien or some other powered individual. It wasn't that big a leap.

And I love your avi X-ray, that little extra was AWESOME!

last man of krypton
10-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Frikkin' awesome. I yelled out at least 4 times, "This is what I've been waiting 8 years for!".

xrayvision
10-24-2008, 06:34 PM
I didn't think he was that much of a jerk, I think he got a bit nasty with Chloe over the Kumbaya thing, but it WAS one of the Isis kids that was responsible for some of the troubles.

It was either a meteor freak, an alien or some other powered individual. It wasn't that big a leap.

And I love your avi X-ray, that little extra was AWESOME!

Thanks.

BadToad
10-24-2008, 07:38 PM
I found it awkward that Clark is going around assuming meteor freaks are the murderers, and basically saying so to Chloe's face, knowing she is one of them. It makes Clark seem so un-compassionate.

Except that isn't what he said at all. What Clark did was make a logical deduction that a murdered girl...who was meteor infected and had just come from a group meeting with other meteor infected people...and who was murdered in an unusual way...well, there might be a connection there. Which is actually NO different from the same sort of questions the police would start asking. If you are going to investigate a crime, you find out where the victim was coming from, what she had been doing, was there any incident there, etc.

And lets not pretend that the show hasn't shown us a rogues gallery of dangerous meteor freaks over the years. Chloe referred to herself as a "walking timebomb" when she found out she was meteor infected. It was Clark that assured her otherwise.

Personally, I thought Clark could've gone about asking for Chloe's help in a better manner. But, I don't think he was wrong to want to take a better look at the others in that group. I think thats deductive investigating work. And, when Clark thought there might be another suspect, Davis, he also looked into him. So, Clark wasn't just deciding it was a meteor freak, end of story. What he was doing was following up the best leads he had.

oqllcksmallville
10-24-2008, 08:31 PM
This is good but Jimmy is a problem to clark jimmy is determined to expose the hero
&& next week ,
he actually get's a picture ! = D
i'm so excited !
i'm glad that Jimmy get's an interesting storyline ,
.. and actually progresses the Superman storyline . = )

redRound
10-24-2008, 08:50 PM
I thought it was great to see him proactive and doing detective work on his own. I also agree that he's still learning and forming boundaries, but I still didn't like the way he talked to Davis at the hospital.

He got away with talking to Lex in this constant accusatory tone because of the issues that surrounded their friendship. But how many times has he met Davis, twice? He's a journalist, not a detective. He doesn't have the legal right to question people, or go through their personal things. So why get so haughty about it. Also, accusing someone of wrong doing, and then demanding answers isn't the only way to talk to a suspect, or get info from them. He needs to learn subtly, it's not all about being confrontational.

Other than this, he was great.

RedKRules
10-24-2008, 08:53 PM
Clark has always saved people, the only difference now that he is doing it in Metropolis, not Smallville .....

Tacitus
10-24-2008, 09:26 PM
Major difference is that now he is actively looking for people that need help, before that in Smallville he was just waiting for trouble to come knocking on his door.

i2c
10-24-2008, 09:40 PM
Why Clark is so silly than a normal human,even he is not human.He has a outstanding resource:the fortress,the liberary of advanced knowledges.instead,he listen to some
normal person's words,it's so dissapointed me,he would never be the superman as that.

unfocused
10-24-2008, 10:16 PM
Also, accusing someone of wrong doing, and then demanding answers isn't the only way to talk to a suspect, or get info from them.

Jack Bauer disagrees.

SnowBird
10-24-2008, 11:45 PM
I think its important to remember that Clark is learning as he goes, and its not like there's a roadmap or instructions how one goes about being a hero and savior. He's muddling through it just like most people would. He's made the commitment to it now. He's embraced the role, possibly too forcefully. He's even putting the needs of people over his own protection. But at the same time, he's struggling with the very real questions of how far should he go? What methods are OK to use to save a life? to save a dozen? Does he need to trust his own instincts above all, or should be back off to spare a friends feelings? Even if he thinks doing so might put people at danger?

There are a lot of things to weigh here, and it seems the only way Clark is going to find the path is for him to actually walk it, and find out what works for him, and what doesn't.

As for Clark thinking he was right, well, He Was Right! Not only about one of the people on that list being bad news, but about Davis. Its just that he doesn't know he was right about Davis yet. Also, it would be pretty standard police procedure to want to talk to the members of a voluntary help ground if one of the members was brutally murdered directly after leaving. Clark's request to Chloe, or his turning the names over to the police was actually not that outlandish. I think Chloe is being very naive here.

I'm very glad that Clark is embracing his role as a being that can make a difference and help people and save lives. Now he just needs to figure out how to balance that with having a life for himself, and he has to find the boundaries he can live with.

Thanks for understanding Clark so well and being in his corner. You usually say what I'm thinking.

I feel people are being kind of harsh with Clark and his decisions in this episode. People were being murdered and injured and he was only trying to get to the bottom of who was the guilty party. He has always gone beyond boundaries so no surprise there. He has done whatever he could even breaking the law to protect the human race he cares so much about. I'm glad he isn't portrayed as that mild mannered reporter. I like the fact that he goes after the truth with passion and determination. Obsession, yes, just like many people who are in the life saving business. I do, however, want to see him make time for his personal life which will be a learning process to balance the double life he has chosen.

Clark is not perfect but then no one else is either. He may be judged with a more strict set of rules because he becomes Superman but remember that he was raised by humans with flaws so we should give him the same slack we give our human heroes when emotions sometimes gets in the way of better judgement. Most of the time Clark will make the right choices becoming the Superman we respect as protector of the world.

ShelbyKent
10-24-2008, 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by BadToad
I think its important to remember that Clark is learning as he goes, and its not like there's a roadmap or instructions how one goes about being a hero and savior. He's muddling through it just like most people would. He's made the commitment to it now. He's embraced the role, possibly too forcefully. He's even putting the needs of people over his own protection. But at the same time, he's struggling with the very real questions of how far should he go? What methods are OK to use to save a life? to save a dozen? Does he need to trust his own instincts above all, or should be back off to spare a friends feelings? Even if he thinks doing so might put people at danger? I love that PS3 are exploring these issues. We're watching "Clark in training", mistakes and all. Beats Clark just coming out of the FOS as a fully formed hero (that's boring). It makes Clark's journey more realistic and makes for better television.

The kind of superhero that Clark would eventually turn out to be would be the sum of all "right" decisions and "unwise" decisions during this critical period. And other characters could give him suggestions but eventually Clark is the one who should work out what works best for him, and his vision of what kind of superhero that he wants to be.

cksidekick
10-25-2008, 01:28 AM
i don't really like that they used the word "obsessed'...Clark went from reactive to proactive...suddenly there is a string of murders (extremely violent) throughout the city...he was trying to catch his "first" big fish...with the other members of the team MIA, he was working alone...MM can only function as a police officer at the moment...he can't do any of the heavy lifting...

Clark got to a point of being a bit over zealous, but not obsessed...he lost perspective...he needed to step back, take a deep breath, have a beer with Jimmy, or whatever...he needed to take a break...that's all...he was not obsessed...Lex has an obsession...Clark only had a small taste of what it is to loose one's objectivity...Clark was over zealous...not obsessed...

having said that, IMO, THIS is the kind of lesson Clark needs to learn...it has nothing to do with him being selfish or lazy...nothing to do with his moral compass...his honor and determination to help were not in question... it has nothing to do with being a BDA...this was not Clark finally realizing he should be doing more...this was Clark finding the limits of his power...he can't save everyone...we all do what we can, and though he is able to do more than most, he still can't do it all...

it was also a lesson in being careful...he was thinking with his heart a bit too much and not quite enough with his head...he has been so focused on saving lives, that he has neglected his own identity...

even so, it's not a BDA kind of thing...it was a hero needing to find a balance...he felt over burdened...it was Clark having a case of Hero Burnout...he got a bit moody, and pushy, and irritable...quite a natural progression for the character...and a great lesson for a "would be" Superman to learn...it caused a bit of friction between him and his friends (Chloe and MM)...

it's the type of thing that his friends (Super Heros in the future: MM, BM, WW, Flash etc.) will help him fight for the rest of his life...there is nothing wrong with Clark's friends helping to keep him grounded...he can't carry the world on his shoulders alone...reminding him that physically saving people is not really the most important thing he can do...being an inspiration is even more important (though we have a way to go in SMALLVILLE before we get to that particular lesson)...but my point is, that Chloe and MM having to remind Clark that he isn't the only one fighting the good fight, and he needs to let go of a bit of the weight, is not out of character for Superman IMO...

did Clark come off as less than perfect in this episode? yes...did he learn a very good lesson? yes...IMHO, this was some wonderful writing for the character of Superman...i hope to see him learn more of these "Superman appropriate" lessons...

:D

Bizarrolover
10-25-2008, 07:17 AM
I think Clark is just starting to adjust to his new life. Everything is too new for him and I understand his enthusiasm. He wants to make a difference but he went from being a farmer with a few extracurricular savings to a junior reporter and full time superhero in only two months. He's out there with no training, just learning from his own mistakes. It's a good thing that MM is there to advise him.

Kal el of krypton
10-25-2008, 07:20 AM
yeah i loved when he was saving people and then he just superjumps up to the building top, was beautiful :) lol

meteor
10-25-2008, 09:08 AM
Clark is definitely getting there..he's not too far off at this point.

unfocused
10-25-2008, 12:55 PM
I think Clark is just starting to adjust to his new life. Everything is too new for him and I understand his enthusiasm. He wants to make a difference but he went from being a farmer with a few extracurricular savings to a junior reporter and full time superhero in only two months. He's out there with no training, just learning from his own mistakes. It's a good thing that MM is there to advise him.

ITA. And I really love this observation of the character. It's really neat, the new producers are really trying HARD to undue the knots AlMiles put Clark Kent in. And they are doing a fine job.

KaraClarkfan
10-25-2008, 02:10 PM
now he just needs to fly..lol

xrayvision
10-25-2008, 02:43 PM
i don't really like that they used the word "obsessed'...Clark went from reactive to proactive...suddenly there is a string of murders (extremely violent) throughout the city...he was trying to catch his "first" big fish...with the other members of the team MIA, he was working alone...MM can only function as a police officer at the moment...he can't do any of the heavy lifting...

Clark got to a point of being a bit over zealous, but not obsessed...he lost perspective...he needed to step back, take a deep breath, have a beer with Jimmy, or whatever...he needed to take a break...that's all...he was not obsessed...Lex has an obsession...Clark only had a small taste of what it is to loose one's objectivity...Clark was over zealous...not obsessed...

having said that, IMO, THIS is the kind of lesson Clark needs to learn...it has nothing to do with him being selfish or lazy...nothing to do with his moral compass...his honor and determination to help were not in question... it has nothing to do with being a BDA...this was not Clark finally realizing he should be doing more...this was Clark finding the limits of his power...he can't save everyone...we all do what we can, and though he is able to do more than most, he still can't do it all...

it was also a lesson in being careful...he was thinking with his heart a bit too much and not quite enough with his head...he has been so focused on saving lives, that he has neglected his own identity...

even so, it's not a BDA kind of thing...it was a hero needing to find a balance...he felt over burdened...it was Clark having a case of Hero Burnout...he got a bit moody, and pushy, and irritable...quite a natural progression for the character...and a great lesson for a "would be" Superman to learn...it caused a bit of friction between him and his friends (Chloe and MM)...

it's the type of thing that his friends (Super Heros in the future: MM, BM, WW, Flash etc.) will help him fight for the rest of his life...there is nothing wrong with Clark's friends helping to keep him grounded...he can't carry the world on his shoulders alone...reminding him that physically saving people is not really the most important thing he can do...being an inspiration is even more important (though we have a way to go in SMALLVILLE before we get to that particular lesson)...but my point is, that Chloe and MM having to remind Clark that he isn't the only one fighting the good fight, and he needs to let go of a bit of the weight, is not out of character for Superman IMO...

did Clark come off as less than perfect in this episode? yes...did he learn a very good lesson? yes...IMHO, this was some wonderful writing for the character of Superman...i hope to see him learn more of these "Superman appropriate" lessons...

:D

Nicely said. I didn't like how the word "obsessed" was used. He wanted to stop whoever the serial killer was. This is the type of Clark we should have seen in the last 3-4 years. He feels bad for those he can't save in time & actually goes out to do something about it rather than stay in his barn all day. I liked this lesson of balance and hope that we get more types of lessons that he will need to learn before donning the Superman suit.

Hopefulsuicide
11-03-2008, 07:53 AM
i thought Tom played Clark incredibly angry and pompous, which ruined any good feeling about him saving people

just because he is doing some vigilante stuff, kind of robotically without stopping to feel the wonder of saving lives, just sort of zipping around like a machine, a man on a mission... that doesn't make him more supermanly

it's just a visual version of what he was doing back in season 6, and his mother told him off for it. he was going around metropolis stopping bad guys, but he was doing it out of anger because of Lana

they made it seem exactly the same this episode... and i don't know where that came from... what the hell is he so angry about? or are we supposed to believe that Clark Kent is just an angry person?

no, that's batman, that's the punisher, that's some other angry about injustices hero, that's not superman... it's ridiculous