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hanna1804
10-23-2008, 03:27 PM
Well since there are already threads for every other characters/couples except Chlark, I just decided to start one about my two fav' characters :) So... Let's talk!

Dustmite
10-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Thanks for starting this thread :)

I'm looking forward to the Chlark scenes.

hanna1804
10-23-2008, 03:33 PM
Thanks for starting this thread :)

I'm looking forward to the Chlark scenes.

Well, you're welcome! Someone had to start it, right?! So why not me (even if I live in France) :lol:

I'm also looking forward to their scenes (of course) to see how the tension that causes the "rift" between them will be played out.
Well, actually, I'm always looking forward to every Chlark scenes :p

CHLARK FOREVER!!!!!!!!

thebog1
10-23-2008, 06:18 PM
Loved them so far, especially their apparent non-date 'hang out' where Clark is obviously distant and self-absorbed. He wasn't even paying attention to her... and then he just shows up and wants her help... Definitely not Clark's best moments.

Chlarkislove
10-23-2008, 07:07 PM
I loved the Chlark scenes tonight. Even though they both had tension between them in the end they made up and Clark is really concerned for Chloe.

Poyntz
10-23-2008, 07:07 PM
Loved their scenes tonight. Even the fight. BUt yes it definatly wasnt Clarks best moments.

minerva73
10-23-2008, 07:12 PM
I loved the Chlark scenes tonight. Even though they both had tension between them in the end they made up and Clark is really concerned for Chloe.

I agree. I liked that they didn't really have to focus too much on the Chimmy relationship or Chloe's powers in this episode too. I could feel the tension sparking out of my TV when Chloe confronted Clark when he had the blood tests.

Tone
10-23-2008, 07:14 PM
Yea I wonder how Jimmy feels about their little get together, then again I think we've seen enough of the Jimmy jealousy of Clark.

individuall
10-23-2008, 07:16 PM
I really enjoyed the Chlark tension tonight..They had some good scenes...I love the ending scene where Clark's concerned that she'll be too trusting with the wrong person *coughdaviscough*....

Darth Pipes
10-23-2008, 07:17 PM
Terrific interaction between the two and there looks to be a bit of a break in the friendship.

dru-zod2501
10-23-2008, 07:27 PM
I expected more chlarkers would be upset; seems like an ongoing trend this season

AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 07:31 PM
I really enjoyed the Chlark tension tonight..They had some good scenes...I love the ending scene where Clark's concerned that she'll be too trusting with the wrong person *coughdaviscough*....

I agree...I just smirked when he said that like "you have nooooooo idea buddy!" :lol:

I'm glad they had that last scene...cause Clark was frankly an ass to Chloe 99% of the time in this episode. I understand she gave it back just as much. But when he walked into her meeting...she invites him to join them...and he makes such a rude comment! (I cant remember it off of the top of my head?) Like he cant even pretend to care about the work she's doing.

Obviously it was addressed later in the episode...that he needs to find a balance between helping people and having a life. But for a while there he was a first class jerk :\

SalvadorianGirl
10-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Chlark rules. That is all for now.

luvinChlark
10-23-2008, 07:36 PM
I thought their scenes were nice. the little get together in the beginning, even though Clark was busy haha. But still the fight had great tension and all! I liked how they made up and Clark telling her how he is worried that she will put trust into someone evil... oops!

Anyway they are still close friends which I love! :)

individuall
10-23-2008, 07:36 PM
I agree...I just smirked when he said that like "you have nooooooo idea buddy!" :lol:

I'm glad they had that last scene...cause Clark was frankly an ass to Chloe 99% of the time in this episode. I understand she gave it back just as much. But when he walked into her meeting...she invites him to join them...and he makes such a rude comment! (I cant remember it off of the top of my head?) Like he cant even pretend to care about the work she's doing.

Obviously it was addressed later in the episode...that he needs to find a balance between helping people and having a life. But for a while there he was a first class jerk :\

Definitely...But I think that maybe that was the point..To show the audience..yes he's being more proactive but he still has a lot to learn...Kind of you know stalling him without the mopey/piney/whiney-ness of it all that's makes us all want to rip our hair out LOL.
I'll take a$$ Clark over whimpy Clark any day..But you're right he needs to find a balance :)

Bella882
10-23-2008, 07:37 PM
What was up with the final Chlavis scene tonight? Chloe referring to Clark in the end?

Firebunny
10-23-2008, 07:45 PM
What was up with the final Chlavis scene tonight? Chloe referring to Clark in the end? It most certainly was.

The Chlark scenes were very good tonight. It helped that the episode didn't focus on shipper stuff. They had an argument over something that actually mattered and you could see how both of them were in the right and in the wrong. And they could see it at the end.

AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 07:46 PM
Definitely...But I think that maybe that was the point..To show the audience..yes he's being more proactive but he still has a lot to learn...Kind of you know stalling him without the mopey/piney/whiney-ness of it all that's makes us all want to rip our hair out LOL.
I'll take a$$ Clark over whimpy Clark any day..But you're right he needs to find a balance :)

Oh definitely! No more whiney Clark PLEASE!!! :lol:

dru-zod2501
10-23-2008, 07:49 PM
What was up with the final Chlavis scene tonight? Chloe referring to Clark in the end?
just another reminder of J.Chlo's impotence, now it's more clear why Davis tells Chloe she's making a mistake in Bride, but now I'm thinking he says it for himself

Arwenstar
10-23-2008, 07:57 PM
I love that Chlark has such a bond and understanding with each other, which this episode just reinforces. So horray for them! :)

OliviaB
10-23-2008, 07:59 PM
I love that Chlark has such a bond and understanding with each other, which this episode just reinforces. So horray for them! :)


I think the Chlark was SO good tonight. They need the conflict over Davis to show how and why they are <3 and amazing together.

Firebunny
10-23-2008, 08:21 PM
I honestly think we're seeing an erosion in the Chlark relationship, but (and this is rare for me) I'm going to trust the writers on this. In each episode Clark and Chloe have been growing further apart. Even though they patched things up in the end tonight, there's a distance between them. BUT I think it's leading to something.

And it's nice to see a natural build to a relationship. Smallville so often takes the easy way out with lightswitches, but they're putting the effort into this and I think there will be a payoff in the end.

SpiritedDiva
10-23-2008, 08:28 PM
I honestly think we're seeing an erosion in the Chlark relationship, but (and this is rare for me) I'm going to trust the writers on this. In each episode Clark and Chloe have been growing further apart. Even though they patched things up in the end tonight, there's a distance between them. BUT I think it's leading to something.

And it's nice to see a natural build to a relationship. Smallville so often takes the easy way out with lightswitches, but they're putting the effort into this and I think there will be a payoff in the end.

IA. They haven't resolved Chlark at all. Her last convo with Davis proves it.
Clark is also heading toward protective mode again.

SteveS
10-23-2008, 08:30 PM
The scenes were good. It is clear that Chloe is speaking of how easy it was for her to develop a relationship with ClarkMan and it is also clear, that little Jimmy is not the apple of her eye. Time to call off the wedding sometime soon.

SalvadorianGirl
10-23-2008, 08:44 PM
honestly think we're seeing an erosion in the Chlark relationship, but (and this is rare for me) I'm going to trust the writers on this. In each episode Clark and Chloe have been growing further apart. Even though they patched things up in the end tonight, there's a distance between them. BUT I think it's leading to something.


I do too. With what we know of Abyss and Legion, I think we're suppose to see the Chlark relationship drifitng apart in order for the emotional impact of Clark trying to save Chloe is more promient and more heartwrenching.

MAR-MAR
10-23-2008, 08:54 PM
I kind of liked the conflict between Clark and Chloe. It reminded me of them in season 3 and 4 when they would fight and challenge each other and then make up in the end. They always come though to protect each other. I like the spark they had it hasn't been there for awhile. They use to challenge and push it other in high school and yet stay true to each other no matter who came between them. Over the past few years it really hasn't been that way so tonight was great to see them battle abit. Don't get me wrong I am a die hard chlark shipper but this put a little fire to the both of them.

TWNik
10-23-2008, 09:00 PM
The scenes were good. It is clear that Chloe is speaking of how easy it was for her to develop a relationship with ClarkMan and it is also clear, that little Jimmy is not the apple of her eye. Time to call off the wedding sometime soon.

No, Chloe heart has always belonged to Clark!!

TWNik
10-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Davis asks Chloe if a connection was ever this easy before, & she replied "Yes, once" to which Davis questions "Jimmy?" & her response?

"NO!" It has to be Clark. :D

AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 09:07 PM
I dont know if that means she still has feelings for Clark. But I definitely think she was refering to Clark. I kind of took that scene as Chloe admitting that it isnt easy with the man she is about to marry....and it is with Davis.

Which is why she's taking a break from him, so she isnt tempted.

TWNik
10-23-2008, 09:09 PM
I dont know if that means she still has feelings for Clark. But I definitely think she was refering to Clark. I kind of took that scene as Chloe admitting that it isnt easy with the man she is about to marry....and it is with Davis.

Which is why she's taking a break from him, so she isnt tempted.

I don't think there is any doubt she was talking about Clark. I also think she still loves him deeply, & Brainiac is influencing her choices. Chloe is not "in love" with Jimmy.

Cyn
10-23-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm not a Chloe fan, but I have to admit that it pissed me off how he went behind her back tonight...Even if he did later apologise. She has been shown to have good judgement and he should have trusted it at least to the point of NOT stealing her group list.

ClarksGal
10-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Well, I think she was talking about Clark. But wasn't she also talking in past tense? That was the way I took it.

AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm not a Chloe fan, but I have to admit that it pissed me off how he went behind her back tonight...Even if he did later apologise. She has been shown to have good judgement and he should have trusted it at least to the point of NOT stealing her group list.

Exactly....Clark was very shady in this episode. Intentionally using his powers to get information from Chloe. Is she going to have to line her files with kryptonite to ensure Clark wont steal whenever he wants to??

AndiGirl
10-23-2008, 09:14 PM
Well, I think she was talking about Clark. But wasn't she also talking in past tense? That was the way I took it.

Me too. :)

SpiritedDiva
10-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Well, I think she was talking about Clark. But wasn't she also talking in past tense? That was the way I took it.


I would buy that. But, it wasn't so much what she said, but how she said it.
She said it in such a wistful way. Her facial expression became really soft when she said that.

TWNik
10-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Well, I think she was talking about Clark. But wasn't she also talking in past tense? That was the way I took it.

I don't think so, simply because Davis response was asking if it were her "current" relationship - Jimmy. Which does not sound "past tense" at all.

RobynAdele0406
10-23-2008, 09:27 PM
I really liked the Chlark scenes tonight. Yes, they were bickering, but it can't be roses and sunshine with them all the time. I like that she called him on his crap, he called her on hers, and at the end, they called their OWN crap!

I don't think a Chlark scene could ever disappoint me. Because I know that no matter what, they'll always be there for each other.

Kalista
10-23-2008, 09:43 PM
IA. They haven't resolved Chlark at all. Her last convo with Davis proves it.
Clark is also heading toward protective mode again.

If Chimmy was the real deal and Chloe has truly moved on from Clark, then why have we been reminded once again, of Chloe's feelings for Clark. Chloe sort of stared off into space when she told Davis she wasn't talking about Jimmy.

Clark is always in protective mode when it involves Chloe. But since there is a distance between Chlark right now, Clark may began to feel like he can't reach her like he used to and he will be even more desperate to save her.

Ginx
10-23-2008, 09:44 PM
Chloe sort of stared off into space when she told Davis she wasn't talking about Jimmy.


She could have meant Clark or she could have meant Davis. She does seem to feel an instant connection to Davis and both are pretty open with each other. I think that comment could have been either one. Or even neither one.

Poyntz
10-23-2008, 09:47 PM
I loved the Chlark tonight. I don't care if they are having an argument. I always liked when they argued and made up again. It shows their spunk in their friendship. I agree with the person he said it reminded them of earlier seasons (sorry i didnt write down who said what as i was reading LOL)

Yes i agree Clark was being a jerk this episode even if his heart was in the right place. There are a few things he didn't take into consideration when taking that info from chloe. One thing didn't happen but it really could of put her in danger. If one of those metor people was responsible and they were suspecting her of giving them the info which they were obviously they were dangerous and could of turned on her and hurt her. I bet he never thought of that. (i know it didnt happen but it came to mind with me).

Also its a matter of respect. She is trying to do something good. And if she gives info like that with no real proof it will ruin her reputation as someone they can go to trust.

Although i admit this is the first episode that i really felt she was happy at isis instead of a lightswitch idea. I still miss her being the old curious chloe reporter though :) it was nice seeing her at the planet again :)

Kalista
10-23-2008, 09:48 PM
I really liked the Chlark scenes tonight. Yes, they were bickering, but it can't be roses and sunshine with them all the time. I like that she called him on his crap, he called her on hers, and at the end, they called their OWN crap!

I don't think a Chlark scene could ever disappoint me. Because I know that no matter what, they'll always be there for each other.

The Chlark scenes are usually the highlight of the episodes for me. I enjoyed the Chlark scenes too because the fighting made their relationship feel even more genuine (if that's possible). Friends make mistakes and hurt each other or take each other for granted at times. But I was happy to see Clark approach her and witness both of them admit their mistakes. They know how to work through their problems. When they fought in the past, they always found a way to resolve their differences and maintain/strenghten their bond.

Bella882
10-23-2008, 09:51 PM
They know how to work through their problems. When they fought in the past, they always found a way to resolve their differences and maintain/strenghten their bond.

The very definition of a partnership.

Kalista
10-23-2008, 09:57 PM
She could have meant Clark or she could have meant Davis. She does seem to feel an instant connection to Davis and both are pretty open with each other. I think that comment could have been either one. Or even neither one.

Quote from the episode:



Chloe: ...besides, everything with you is so...

Davis: ...so easy

Chloe: Yeah, easy.

Davis: Have you ever felt that way with anyone before?

Chloe: Once.

Davis: With Jimmy?

Chloe: No.

She told Davis that things were easy with him and Davis asked her if she ever felt that way with anyone before. IOW, Davis was asking her if she ever felt that way with someone else before she met him. So, she could not have been referring to Davis. One could argue that she was referring to the brief time she spent with Davis when they first met, but I doubt that. I think she was talking about Clark.

Chlarkislove
10-23-2008, 10:00 PM
I think Chloe still loves Clark. I think it's Brianiac who doesn't want her with Clark. He's trying to break them apart. He knows that she's important to him.

TWNik
10-23-2008, 10:02 PM
I think Chloe still loves Clark. I think it's Brianiac who doesn't want her with Clark. He's trying to break them apart. He knows that she's important to him.

I agree, Brainiac would not want them together.

SalvadorianGirl
10-23-2008, 10:04 PM
I think it's Brianiac who doesn't want her with Clark. He's trying to break them apart. He knows that she's important to him.

That's definitely his M.O. We've seen time and time again what a life without Chloe in his life for Clark is like. Not a happy one.

It makes perfect sense to split Chlark who rely so much on each other.

It's proven further when in Abyss Chloe losing memories of Clark sets up her getting taken over by Brainiaic in Bride and Legion.

Ayanne
10-23-2008, 10:06 PM
That's definitely his M.O. We've seen time and time again what a life without Chloe in his life for Clark is like. Not a happy one.

It makes perfect sense to split Chlark who rely so much on each other.

It's proven further when in Abyss Chloe losing memories of Clark sets up her getting taken over by Brainiaic in Bride and Legion.


Clark & Chloe are 2 halves of a whole.

Kalista
10-23-2008, 10:10 PM
That's definitely his M.O. We've seen time and time again what a life without Chloe in his life for Clark is like. Not a happy one.

It makes perfect sense to split Chlark who rely so much on each other.

It's proven further when in Abyss Chloe losing memories of Clark sets up her getting taken over by Brainiaic in Bride and Legion.

Brainiac does use Clark's friends and loved ones to undermine him. He did it Solitude when he infected Martha and in Vessel when he used Clark's friendship with Lex/Zod's vessel to manipulate him.

So, it would make perfect sense to take the opportunity presented to him to use Clark's relationship with Chloe to manipulate him once again.

Monica_O
10-23-2008, 10:32 PM
I honestly think we're seeing an erosion in the Chlark relationship, but (and this is rare for me) I'm going to trust the writers on this. In each episode Clark and Chloe have been growing further apart. Even though they patched things up in the end tonight, there's a distance between them. BUT I think it's leading to something.

And it's nice to see a natural build to a relationship. Smallville so often takes the easy way out with lightswitches, but they're putting the effort into this and I think there will be a payoff in the end.

I think the erosion that is being portrayed in this last episodes is a way to show us that no matter what might happen btw this 2, the problems, the brainiac, everything they are going to end up together in the end 'cause what they have is stronger and true than anything else.

laces
10-23-2008, 10:42 PM
It was great to see Clark and Chloe spending more than a couple of minutes together for a change. Even when they were fighting.

SalvadorianGirl
10-23-2008, 11:36 PM
So thinking further. We know that in Abyss that Davis tells Chloe she's marrying the wrong guy.

So it makes me wonder about Davis goes all Doomsday at the wedding reception and probably it having something to do with Clark actively trying to get Chloe away from him and getting him more riled up that Clark is trying to forge a wedge between them.

isagill chlark fan
10-23-2008, 11:39 PM
this was an amazing episode, chlark scenes was great well-performance by TW and AM they really have the best chemestry on smallville even when they are fighting they are so adorable together

Agent Addek
10-23-2008, 11:45 PM
Even though tonight Clark's attitude towards Chloe was questionable, their scenes were still so freakin' good. They just have AMAZING chemistry, even when they're fighting they are just HOT. :D :D

claudiss
10-24-2008, 12:01 AM
loved the chlark tension.their friendship is just admirable. If I were Chloe I`d love Clark forever...I mean...Clark : a good man, her first love , so handsome with a wonderful smile... with powers, her hero...and he wants the best for her and hugs her like that, I mean who blames her, it`s natural! and of course all of their history.

about Davis and chloe, so what she said is that she`s starting to develop feelings for Davis?...after her first love Clark is...Davis?... THAT I can believe..cuz I still don`t feel the Chimmy, I know they have cute scenes...but not feeling it.

and...yes clark was a little jerk at first...but he apologized so it`s ok for me.

ginnyfan
10-24-2008, 12:02 AM
Loved them so far, especially their apparent non-date 'hang out' where Clark is obviously distant and self-absorbed. He wasn't even paying attention to her... and then he just shows up and wants her help... Definitely not Clark's best moments.

I was a little irked too but I forgave him because he was obsessed with being a hero not with Lana! Yay!


I really liked the Chlark scenes tonight. Yes, they were bickering, but it can't be roses and sunshine with them all the time. I like that she called him on his crap, he called her on hers, and at the end, they called their OWN crap!

YES! I loved it.

I adored the Chlark scenes. I love that Chloe initiated a friend date. I love that Chloe protected her Isis members. I love that she confronted Clark when he crossed the line. I love that there was NO SIDE-KICKING IN SIGHT! When she did hack to find Davis' location I didn't feel that she was working for Clark but with him toward a mutual goal.

I liked Clark's heartfelt gazes and heartfelt apologies. I love that he didn't walk on eggshells with Chloe.

She was definitely referring to Clark in the end scene. It's no secret that she fell in love with Clark fast originally. And... Davis MADE HER face that she's falling for him. Which is why she ran away. LOL! She IS in love with Jimmy but... he had to work hard for it. It wasn't "easy." I think the last scene with Davis further reinforces that she's over Clark. The wistful way she said "Once." It's past... but then she had to think about how she's feeling about Davis now. Anyway I don't want to rain on the parade.

I wish I could be sad about it but Chloe/Davis is just so yummy.

Chlark was wonderful in this episode.

IloveClark
10-24-2008, 12:41 AM
That wasn't all Chloe tonight.

lillie_poo_pod
10-24-2008, 01:06 AM
I enjoyed the Chlark scenes tonight. I loved the 2 arguments they got into. The tension was great.

Chiriru
10-24-2008, 01:07 AM
I think Chloe still loves Clark. I think it's Brianiac who doesn't want her with Clark. He's trying to break them apart.

Totally. I also think he's the reason she's trying to "help" the meteor infected in this manor. And you can kinda tell that Clark's loosing it without her, which is just so sad, cause he's also worried he'll loose her.

I like that even with Brainiac messing her up, they can still be honest with each other and apologize.

Black Panda
10-24-2008, 01:37 AM
They had an argument over something that actually mattered and you could see how both of them were in the right and in the wrong. And they could see it at the end.
Yeah, I liked that the fight made real sense.


In each episode Clark and Chloe have been growing further apart. Even though they patched things up in the end tonight, there's a distance between them. BUT I think it's leading to something.
Well, I think we are already seeing the toll it's taking on Clark.


Brainiac does use Clark's friends and loved ones to undermine him. He did it Solitude when he infected Martha and in Vessel when he used Clark's friendship with Lex/Zod's vessel to manipulate him.

So, it would make perfect sense to take the opportunity presented to him to use Clark's relationship with Chloe to manipulate him once again.
Exactly!


And you can kinda tell that Clark's loosing it without her, which is just so sad, cause he's also worried he'll loose her.

I like that even with Brainiac messing her up, they can still be honest with each other and apologize.
See, I think this is part of Brainiac's brilliance. Clark can get an understanding hug, but more and more he is pushing distance between these two, ESPECIALLY when it comes to partnering up, and that is where these two have grown so sympatico. It was really noticable tonight.

TheAmazingApe
10-24-2008, 02:42 AM
I think the last scene with Davis further reinforces that she's over Clark. The wistful way she said "Once." It's past... but then she had to think about how she's feeling about Davis now. Anyway I don't want to rain on the parade.

I have to respectfully disagree. I think that moment of silence was all about Chlark and this will only be highlighted in Abyss. I think this might also feed into Davis' assertion in that ep that she's marrying the wrong guy. It might not be so much about him that he says it, but just that Chloe deserves something more than the (what I see as) lukewarm love for Jimmy.

Going away from Davis is about Chlark and (to a smaller degree) about Chimmy. I don't think she'd think of cheating. She is too ethical for that. She is engaged, but in the scene previous her best friend warned her about trusting too easily. She doesn't want to trust the wrong person again. That moment of silence was all for Clark and Clark is most of the reason she pulled away from Davis, as I see it.


I wish I could be sad about it but Chloe/Davis is just so yummy.

Now THAT I can agree on. Chloe deserves a man worthy of a shower scene.


Chlark was wonderful in this episode.

And another thing to agree on! Then again, I always love my Chlark.

Dustmite
10-24-2008, 03:56 AM
I haven't actually watched the episode yet but I'm impatient to see how Chlark played out.

hanna1804
10-24-2008, 04:25 AM
I've just seen it, it was a pretty good episode with 5 Chlark scenes!!
And I "hate" to admit it but Chlavis is super cute in this episode, I loved it too just as much as Chlark...

EllenF
10-24-2008, 05:11 AM
A lot of scenes to love here. Clark was a jerk more than once (ignoring Chloe on their "date," stealing her list, the "kumbaya" line), but it was all understandable in the context of him becoming obsessed with saving people, not to mention the fact that he and Chloe are drifting apart and that's obviously stressing him out. I loved the way they brought up Chlark at the end (it's only been that easy for Chloe with Clark, not Jimmy). And I love the way he's free to be a hero in front of Chloe-- listening to the police scanner and checking out the Metropolis PD website-- and the way she accepts what he's doing and the fact that it's taking precedence in his life right now.

It was great to see so much Chlark!

rogueslayer1985
10-24-2008, 05:27 AM
Chlark rules. That is all for now.
nothing else needs to be said buddy. but i feel compelled to add more.

I know they were trying to screw over chlark today but that couldnt happen, never!!!!

I think there should have been a hug after the apology though and they shoud show an actual dinner and movie night with the two. I miss their scenes tonnes and feel like this episode shows why lois is not needed for anything besides to suck the fun out of my fav show. Fun sucker!!!

OliviaB
10-24-2008, 05:52 AM
A lot of scenes to love here. Clark was a jerk more than once (ignoring Chloe on their "date," stealing her list, the "kumbaya" line), but it was all understandable in the context of him becoming obsessed with saving people, not to mention the fact that he and Chloe are drifting apart and that's obviously stressing him out. I loved the way they brought up Chlark at the end (it's only been that easy for Chloe with Clark, not Jimmy). And I love the way he's free to be a hero in front of Chloe-- listening to the police scanner and checking out the Metropolis PD website-- and the way she accepts what he's doing and the fact that it's taking precedence in his life right now.

It was great to see so much Chlark!

The Chlark was awesome to see after the past few episodes. It's been a well needed breath of fresh air and a reminder of what works on this show and that the writers can make it work for that matter. That they're choosing to do it with Chlark and Davis is a rleief because these three have great chemistry together.

And yes, the line about it only being easy with Clark...she so totally loves him still. It's greta that DAVIS is a reminder of how much she loves Clark, and not Jimmy.

Suck on that Jimmy, you idiot.

Firebunny
10-24-2008, 06:11 AM
A lot of scenes to love here. Clark was a jerk more than once (ignoring Chloe on their "date," stealing her list, the "kumbaya" line), but it was all understandable in the context of him becoming obsessed with saving people, not to mention the fact that he and Chloe are drifting apart and that's obviously stressing him out. Agreed. I've seen a lot of comments about Clark being a jerk, but I think it's part of what he has to go through to be the hero. He's over compensating right now, but he'll learn how to balance heroing and regular life. It's good that Smallville is showing us this natural progression in his development (as opposed to lightswitching, which has been rampant this season).



I think there should have been a hug after the apology though and they shoud show an actual dinner and movie night with the two. I miss their scenes tonnes and feel like this episode shows why lois is not needed for anything besides to suck the fun out of my fav show. Fun sucker!!! I missed a hug too, but I think that's the point. It felt like there should be one and there wasn't. It's another sign of the distance between Chlark. (And I said this before, but I'm fine with the growing distance right now because I think it's going to pay off later.)

And you're right, Lois was not needed in the episode. Didn't miss her at all. Except for the one line they threw in I forgot about her completely. It's very refreshing to have an episode without her. She can be too much sometimes.

Mary Sullivan
10-24-2008, 07:58 AM
Their scenes were great, the fight was good and the make up scene even better!! :D

She totally loves him!!!

Dor el
10-24-2008, 08:12 AM
loved the chlark tension.their friendship is just admirable. If I were Chloe I`d love Clark forever...I mean...Clark : a good man, her first love , so handsome with a wonderful smile... with powers, her hero...and he wants the best for her and hugs her like that, I mean who blames her, it`s natural! and of course all of their history.

about Davis and chloe, so what she said is that she`s starting to develop feelings for Davis?...after her first love Clark is...Davis?... THAT I can believe..cuz I still don`t feel the Chimmy, I know they have cute scenes...but not feeling it.

and...yes clark was a little jerk at first...but he apologized so it`s ok for me.

The apology...was very good. Over the years, Clark has used the apology way too infrequently. Like when he would barge in on Lex or wrongly accuse someone, he rarely apologized. Takes a mature person to admit mistakes or insensitivities and then step up with an apology. I think this was just one more way that PS3 are growing Superman.

----- Added 6 Minutes later -----



She can be too much sometimes.

Indeed she can.

----- Added 14 Minutes later -----

After having read all the chatter about the distance between Clark and Chloe and the stress it's causing, more for Clark than Chloe at this point, I can't help but wonder if Chloe will survive the season. At least the Chloe that we have come to love and admire.Clearly Clark loves (if not romantically) Chloe, and he depends on her for more than just her supersnooping skills. She is very important to him and and it would surely be a big blow for him to lose her. It would also take him off his superhero game a bit, thus making him more vulnerable. This so sounds like a Brainiac ploy. Brainiac has no benevolent aspirations. Chloe could be a casualty. At least that's the impression I came away with seeing the drifting apart of these two friends.

Firebunny
10-24-2008, 09:42 AM
Clearly Clark loves (if not romantically) Chloe, and he depends on her for more than just her supersnooping skills. She is very important to him and and it would surely be a big blow for him to lose her. It would also take him off his superhero game a bit, thus making him more vulnerable. This so sounds like a Brainiac ploy. Brainiac has no benevolent aspirations. Chloe could be a casualty. At least that's the impression I came away with seeing the drifting apart of these two friends. I think that's very much what is happening, but Brainiac's a sneaky one and he's severing the ties between Clark and Chloe slowly. I hope Clark wakes up to this soon and stops it.

BadaBingBadaBoomsday
10-24-2008, 09:59 AM
Before i say anything i would like to say I am a massive Chlarker.

Firstly, regretably i feel the "once" from Chloe meant in the past.
However i liked to see in the clip right after she said "no" the dreamy eyes she had as if she was still contemplating the possibilities with you know who!;):eek:

I mean CK:lol:

I also think she knows she still needs a bit of Clark time too. On second viewing i realised that it was Chloe who suggested the idea of dinner and a movie. Pity it never goes further! I dont know but Jimmy must just come home and konk out on the sofa when he comes in from work.

Those were nice Chlark moments, however there are not so nice ones.

In present times it was always the Clark 1/2 of the Chlark relationship, if you could call it that, that i hated. He was constantly blind of his very own guardian and angel standing right in front of him.

Clois fans are like, "I dont remember the episode with the angel in it.":)

Maybe Kryptonians are inept at reading human female facial and behavioural expressions for 'i really like you'.

Maybe he shouldve finished his training at his fortress of solitude. Jor-els last class was probably, in Jor-el voiceover "NOW KAL-EL YOUR LAST CLASS, LECTURE 99999, THE HARDEST OF ALL YOUR ABILITIES IN YOUR TRAINING, UNDERSTANDING THE HUMAN FEMALE":)

No offence was intended to any females reading this post. Ditto for Clois fans. Ditto plus extra sorry for female Clois fans.

However lately the Chlark 1/2 that is starting to get on my wick is Chloe. During their romantic dinner (haha) she slurps her drink as if to say HELLO HEY OVER HERE (i know it is an absolute disgrace to ignore a girl never mind such a beautiful girl over dinner) but i thought it was not like Chloe to go all sarcastic towards Clark the rest of the scene. Its usually her that ignores Clark and he doesn't go all huffy.

Then the rest of the episode she is quite nasty towards Clark. Even though he is not following ISIS confidentiality but come on he is trying to save people. Bit harsh on Chloe's side i think.

I love Chloe as a character. She has a heart of gold and has always got unrelentless love for anyone she meets, especially her big soft (as in cute not strength wise) alien. No dumb in that sentence:)

Although Clark was a bit annoying Chloe would usually absorb that into her big yielding hard, while biting her tongue, and rebound with nothing but love.

I think she is relising she is not going to get her true love (Clark) and is rebounding with anger directed towards Clark

Or maybebecause she is not receiving the same amount of love that she is bestowing.

And i feel sorry for her that she has to resort to this.

Its as if its easier for her to be nasty towards Clark than for her to tell him her true feelings towards him.

Im severly struggling with words here. I think im getting what i feel across so if anyone can elaborate please do.

The only excuse i have for Chloe's behaviour is ...Brainiac it has to be as Chloe is definitely not herself!!!

Remember this is my opinion and others may disagree.

marikology
10-24-2008, 10:00 AM
I love when Chlark fight because it actually means something. They don't just endlessly needle each other to get a rise out of the other. They're so close and such a good team, it's a big deal when they disagree, and you can tell it's a concern for both of them. I loved that Clark went to apologize first, it shows how equal their relationship is.

I agree with the people who are saying we are seeing a slight erosion of their friendship, but just like with Chloe and journalism, you don't know what you've got till it's gone, so I think it's a positive thing in the long -run. Just like in this episode when they disagreed and were apart, they were coming to the wrong conclusions, but when they worked together, they were stronger and better and solved the case.

I think it definitely says positive things about their relationship and what's to come.

Dustmite
10-24-2008, 10:11 AM
I love when Chlark fight because it actually means something.

I agree. They don't fight over little quibbles but it still makes my heart wibbly to see them on opposing ends. I like that they both acknolaged that they were to blame and a massive part of the disagreement happened because they weren't listening to each other. Chloe was defensive and Clark was being too gung-ho and a few of his remarks were hurtful.


I agree with the people who are saying we are seeing a slight erosion of their friendship,

:(

I just want them back to the way they were.


However i liked to see in the clip right after she said "no" the dreamy eyes she had as if she was still contemplating the possibilities with you know who!

She was dreamy and it gratified me when she clarified that it wasn't Jimmy that she was talking about not that I needed the clarification.

TWNik
10-24-2008, 10:16 AM
her drink as if to say HELLO HEY OVER HERE (i know it is an absolute disgrace to ignore a girl never mind such a beautiful girl over dinner) but i thought it was not like Chloe to go all sarcastic towards Clark the rest of the scene. Its usually her that ignores Clark and he doesn't go all huffy.

Then the rest of the episode she is quite nasty towards Clark. Even though he is not following ISIS confidentiality but come on he is trying to save people. Bit harsh on Chloe's side i think.

I love Chloe as a character. She has a heart of gold and has always got unrelentless love for anyone she meets, especially her big soft (as in cute not strength wise) alien. No dumb in that sentence:)

Although Clark was a bit annoying Chloe would usually absorb that into her big yielding hard, while biting her tongue, and rebound with nothing but love.....

he only excuse i have for Chloe's behaviour is ...Brainiac it has to be as Chloe is definitely not herself!!!

Harold, nice post. I think a great deal of whatever Chloe is saying, emotions are connected to the influence of Brainiac. It is to his benefit to break the Chlark bond.

nzs
10-24-2008, 10:19 AM
Seeing as Davis is a dark mirror to Clark, it makes sense that Chloe is feeling connected to him too. But, as expected, Chloe doesn't feel that connection with Jimmy.

They had an argument over something that actually mattered and you could see how both of them were in the right and in the wrong. And they could see it at the end.
Word.

TWNik
10-24-2008, 10:25 AM
Seeing as Davis is a dark mirror to Clark, it makes sense that Chloe is feeling connected to him too. But, as expected, Chloe doesn't feel that connection with Jimmy.

Word.

The conflict had substance, depth & meaning. That was a very telling line that Chloe doesn't feel the connection to Jimmy, but she does Davis & Clark.

Mars Investigations
10-24-2008, 11:19 AM
For Clark to say this to Chloe is massively hyprocritical. Below are a list of a few of the people that Clark has unnecessarily revealed his abilities to despite barely knowing them, despite the fact that it took him years to tell even his closest friends:

Jordan Cross
Ryan James (he may have read Martha's mind, but Clark let him in on everything)
Cyrus Krupp
Javier Ramirez
Kyle TippetI'm sure I'm missing more, but this is enough proof to show what a hypocrite Clark was being when he said that to Chloe. I loved this episode, but he was really unlikeable throughout.

Kevin24
10-24-2008, 11:20 AM
I think he meant trust someone you don't even know over me.

Isabel14
10-24-2008, 11:24 AM
He was suspecting Davis of being the killer, so he was afraid that Chloe might get hurt, plus I don't think Clark tell them his secret on purpose, he used his powers in front of them, so he needed to explain them.

Mars Investigations
10-24-2008, 11:24 AM
I think he meant trust someone you don't even know over me.

He said this in the scene at the Isis Foundation, right before Chloe got out the files and spoke about the 327 meteor freaks she'd profiled. If he did mean that, it didn't gel well with the previous dialogue in that scene.

Even if he did mean that, it's still hypocritical - he trusted all those I listed (and possibly more) over her when he barely knew them.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


He was suspecting Davis of being the killer, so he was afraid that Chloe might get hurt, plus I don't think Clark tell them his secret on purpose, he used his powers in front of them, so he needed to explain them.

Not the ones I listed, I don't think (otherwise the list would be pretty big). And besides, he didn't need to explain the full extent of his abilities, or even really have any other contact with them/reveal his identity.

Stu.Kent
10-24-2008, 11:29 AM
i don't think its news that someone on smallville made a hypocritical statement, is it?

Kevin24
10-24-2008, 11:30 AM
I don't remember who Jordan Cross is or Cyrus Krupp.

Mars Investigations
10-24-2008, 11:30 AM
i don't think its news that someone on smallville made a hypocritical statement, is it?

Of course not. But it was just one more thing that irked me about Clark in this episode, and I wished Chloe would have thrown it back in his face.

SteveS
10-24-2008, 11:40 AM
ClarkMan will be proven right in that Chloe should not trust Davis, plain and simple.

Ayanne
10-24-2008, 12:02 PM
A lot of scenes to love here. Clark was a jerk more than once (ignoring Chloe on their "date," stealing her list, the "kumbaya" line), but it was all understandable in the context of him becoming obsessed with saving people, not to mention the fact that he and Chloe are drifting apart and that's obviously stressing him out. I loved the way they brought up Chlark at the end (it's only been that easy for Chloe with Clark, not Jimmy). And I love the way he's free to be a hero in front of Chloe-- listening to the police scanner and checking out the Metropolis PD website-- and the way she accepts what he's doing and the fact that it's taking precedence in his life right now.

It was great to see so much Chlark!

My Chlark!!! Yeah, I don't really get the whole Clark has to be at the DP to listen to a police scanner. He could do that anywhere.

Ayanne
10-24-2008, 12:03 PM
I think he meant trust someone you don't even know over me.

He was jealous over Chloe.

AChloeChick
10-24-2008, 12:36 PM
^^^When is he NOT jealous over Chloe?

Kalista
10-24-2008, 12:38 PM
He was jealous over Chloe.

I think he was a little hurt too.

I like the way Clark leaned over Chloe and tried to emphathize with her in the DP scene where they discussed the possiblity of Davis being a killer. He' trying to maintain that connection with her.

Firebunny
10-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Seeing as Davis is a dark mirror to Clark, it makes sense that Chloe is feeling connected to him too. But, as expected, Chloe doesn't feel that connection with Jimmy. I've heard a lot about how Davis is the "dark mirror" to Clark and I've been trying to figure out just what that means.

I don't know a lot about Doomsday, but he's Kryptonian or he's a Kryptonian experiment the way Bizarro was. And I guess Davis is like Clark because he's discovering his alien herritage and possibly developing powers. In someways they both start out in the same place, wanting to do good. Davis is a hero (a paramedic) and Clark is on his way to being a hero.

Chloe fits into this too, because they both have the easy connection to her. She gives them her trust. They confide in her. She's the one person they can trust with their secrets. She's the person who connects them with humanity.



My Chlark!!! Yeah, I don't really get the whole Clark has to be at the DP to listen to a police scanner. He could do that anywhere. Well, it would have been kind of rude to listen to a police scanner while at the movies.

AChloeChick
10-24-2008, 12:53 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed Chlark tonight; the good, the bad, and the ugly. What I saw was a relationship that just won't go away. They've been on opposites sides before, so that's nothing new.

I think both Clark and Chloe were right in their decisions. Chloe was trying to protect her 'clients' and keep their trusts, while Clark was trying to protect Metropolis. They both did what they felt was right and ended up discussing it later.

I LOVED the fact that they're STILL making 'dates' to spend time together! I don't think Clark brushing it off was too much of a big deal. It's obviously clear that he's become obsessed over saving people (this was addressed throughout the epi) and Chloe realized. I think at this point, even Lana couldn't break him away from it.

Chloe's 'easy' comment to Davis only clarifies that Clark is the ONLY one she's ever had that type of relationship with before. There simply is NO ONE ELSE. Now she has it with Davis, she doesn't seem what to do with it. She fell in love with Clark and I think she can see that if she doesn't back off from Davis, she'll do the same thing with him.

Anyway, it was SO nice to see Chlark interacting again, especially at the DP! Tonight's epi had that SV feel to it again!

Ayanne
10-24-2008, 01:03 PM
Chloe's 'easy' comment to Davis only clarifies that Clark is the ONLY one she's ever had that type of relationship with before. There simply is NO ONE ELSE. Now she has it with Davis, she doesn't seem what to do with it. She fell in love with Clark and I think she can see that if she doesn't back off from Davis, she'll do the same thing with him.


I don't think Chloe has ever been "in love" with anyone else, & that "once" totally proves it.

AChloeChick
10-24-2008, 01:08 PM
^^^There is NO doubt in my mind that she is NOT in love with Jimmy. This only proves it even more, despite last week's LAME lie-detector.

I'm sorry. Chloe never has and never will be in-love with Jimmy the way she has been with Clark. She deserves SO much better than that and so do her fans.

PS3, PLEASE don't ignore the plea of your fans. Chimmy just doesn't work. You know it and we know it. Make it go away!

wolverine316
10-24-2008, 01:46 PM
I'm not a Chloe fan, but I have to admit that it pissed me off how he went behind her back tonight...Even if he did later apologise. She has been shown to have good judgement and he should have trusted it at least to the point of NOT stealing her group list.


Well she didn't have good judgement because one of her people was a killer.

Kalista
10-24-2008, 01:48 PM
Well she didn't have good judgement because one of her people was a killer.


Also, despite her good intentions, counseling won't stop Tess from using meteor freaks to her advantage.

Dannyblue1
10-24-2008, 02:14 PM
Well she didn't have good judgement because one of her people was a killer.

But that wasn't the point. The point was that Chloe was trying to do the right thing (and not betraying the trust of people who trusted her with something that could get them ostracized was the right thing), and Clark disregarded that for his own purposes.

And Clark wasn't really right, in my opinion. He jumped to a conclusion based on nothing but...well, profiling, really. He had no evidence at all that any of Chloe's kids were actually guilty. He suspected them for no other reason than they were meteor infected. Yes, he turned out to be "right." But even a broken clock is "right" twice a day.

Firebunny
10-24-2008, 02:55 PM
But that wasn't the point. The point was that Chloe was trying to do the right thing (and not betraying the trust of people who trusted her with something that could get them ostracized was the right thing), and Clark disregarded that for his own purposes.

And Clark wasn't really right, in my opinion. He jumped to a conclusion based on nothing but...well, profiling, really. He had no evidence at all that any of Chloe's kids were actually guilty. He suspected them for no other reason than they were meteor infected. Yes, he turned out to be "right." But even a broken clock is "right" twice a day.

See this is what I think it so great about their fight, because they both had really good reasons for the positions they took. Clark wanted to find a killer. He had evidence that the killer was "meteor enhanced." So, he went after the one lead he had. I think he could have approached Chloe differently, like ask her if any of her clients had heard of something like this, but he was feeling the pressure to save lives and Clark's new at this game.

ms.c.
10-24-2008, 02:58 PM
A lot of scenes to love here. Clark was a jerk more than once (ignoring Chloe on their "date," stealing her list, the "kumbaya" line), but it was all understandable in the context of him becoming obsessed with saving people, not to mention the fact that he and Chloe are drifting apart and that's obviously stressing him out. I loved the way they brought up Chlark at the end (it's only been that easy for Chloe with Clark, not Jimmy). And I love the way he's free to be a hero in front of Chloe-- listening to the police scanner and checking out the Metropolis PD website-- and the way she accepts what he's doing and the fact that it's taking precedence in his life right now.

It was great to see so much Chlark!

It was nice to get to see so much Chlark again. They have big issues to resolve and it is a good set up for them to improve their relationship by being challenged. When Chlark fight, they end up growing from the experience. I like that they don't let each other off the hook all the time.


I thoroughly enjoyed Chlark tonight; the good, the bad, and the ugly. What I saw was a relationship that just won't go away. They've been on opposites sides before, so that's nothing new.

I think both Clark and Chloe were right in their decisions. Chloe was trying to protect her 'clients' and keep their trusts, while Clark was trying to protect Metropolis. They both did what they felt was right and ended up discussing it later.

I LOVED the fact that they're STILL making 'dates' to spend time together! I don't think Clark brushing it off was too much of a big deal. It's obviously clear that he's become obsessed over saving people (this was addressed throughout the epi) and Chloe realized. I think at this point, even Lana couldn't break him away from it.

Chloe's 'easy' comment to Davis only clarifies that Clark is the ONLY one she's ever had that type of relationship with before. There simply is NO ONE ELSE. Now she has it with Davis, she doesn't seem what to do with it. She fell in love with Clark and I think she can see that if she doesn't back off from Davis, she'll do the same thing with him.

It's funny to see Davis saying all the things Chloe probably would have loved to hear from Clark. I think it is unnerving her. She doesnt know how to take it when she feels something for someone and they are so clearly eager to show her affection and attention. And he is open with her. I like that Chloe wants to be loyal to her promise to marry Jimmy, but her answer of "no" when Davis said she must have felt that way with Jimmy was a huge neon sign that Chimmy is wrong.

I wish Clark could see Dooms reacting to Chloe. It would be an eye opener to him to see what Chloe could have, what she deserves and what someone else is willing to give her. It's weird to say it, but Clark could learn a thing or two from Davis about Chloe.

TWNik
10-24-2008, 03:48 PM
Chloe's 'easy' comment to Davis only clarifies that Clark is the ONLY one she's ever had that type of relationship with before. There simply is NO ONE ELSE. Now she has it with Davis, she doesn't seem what to do with it. She fell in love with Clark and I think she can see that if she doesn't back off from Davis, she'll do the same thing

It's a part of her character to be drawn to Clark/Krypton at this point. Davis has that as well as Clark.

Good vs Evil. Chloe in the middle.

Dustmite
10-24-2008, 04:05 PM
It's funny to see Davis saying all the things Chloe probably would have loved to hear from Clark. I think it is unnerving her. She doesnt know how to take it when she feels something for someone and they are so clearly eager to show her affection and attention. And he is open with her. I like that Chloe wants to be loyal to her promise to marry Jimmy, but her answer of "no" when Davis said she must have felt that way with Jimmy was a huge neon sign that Chimmy is wrong.

And they keep giving us signs that Chimmy is wrong. Why show us that if you're not going to end. There were no Chimmy scenes tonight and the episode was more enjoyable because of it.

LookUpDown
10-24-2008, 05:51 PM
I love the Chlark scenes in this epsiode. They continue to show that they have the best relationship of the show.

wolverine316
10-24-2008, 07:44 PM
Hopefully when this thing with Doomy blows up in her face, Clark will be there to save her butt yet again.

Firebunny
10-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Hopefully when this thing with Doomy blows up in her face, Clark will be there to save her butt yet again.
Clark's pretty good about saving Chloe, just like she's pretty good about saving him.

RedKRules
10-24-2008, 08:24 PM
Hopefully when this thing with Doomy blows up in her face, Clark will be there to save her butt yet again.

I am dang sure he will ....... I mean Clark has been wrong too many times and she has always been there for him ..... Remember Solitude when Clark trusted Brainiac ?? .... so ... both have made mistakes, but in the end ..... they always find a way to save each other ..... :D :D Chlarkkkk!!

oqllcksmallville
10-24-2008, 08:28 PM
Chlark is awesome as friends .
i loved that everything wasn't ;
happy la-la perfect ville ,
cause honestly and truly ; best friends fight .
and it was nice to explore yet another aspect of their friendship .

Mary Sullivan
10-24-2008, 08:37 PM
I really loved Chlark in this episode, there were both jerks in some momentos but they apologized in the end.

Loved her Clark/Doomsday scene. Chloe still loves Clark heee.

Firebunny
10-25-2008, 12:18 PM
I really loved Chlark in this episode, there were both jerks in some momentos but they apologized in the end. That's what's so great about their fights. Even though the subject matter can be fantastical, the fights are very real. When they're mad at each other they land those low blows they know will hurt.

I think Clark and Chloe, because they're so close, can hurt each other emotionally more than anyone else can. But, because they're so close, they can forgive each other those low blows once they stop being mad and move on.

SalvadorianGirl
10-25-2008, 12:46 PM
I still can't get over how much I love Clark being really jealous that Chloe was being so trusting of someone that wasn't him and than his utter concern that that trust could bring her harm.

Good Chlark just makes me squee so much much.

Black Panda
10-25-2008, 03:16 PM
I still can't get over how much I love Clark being really jealous that Chloe was being so trusting of someone that wasn't him and than his utter concern that that trust could bring her harm.
We've gotten so used to an easy partnership, that it's interesting to see that falling apart.

Khyla
10-25-2008, 03:55 PM
thought it was a great epi.

but something's been bothering me about it, though no one else has mentioned it, (i don't think)

perhaps it could be attributed to the Chloiac-Effect? --- It seems whenever anything's "off" that's as good escape-goat as any for these writers :\ ):

It just seems off that one minute Chloe is consoling Davis and hell-bent on proving to him that his theory about being the killer must be wrong, and the next, she is telling Clark:
"I have to admit Davis would have the perfect setup." "I mean he attacks the people and then pretends to arrive at the scene to save them."
Chloe even rolls her eyes as she says it. That was just WEIRD.

Maybe it was Brainiac influencing her in order to put Clark in harms way? It just didn't make sense to me otherwise.... any thoughts?

Firebunny
10-25-2008, 04:05 PM
I noticed that too. She seems to think in the second scene that Davis might be planning these murders, but in the earlier scene she seemed to believe him when he said he was having blackouts.

It's like in the second scene she has no memory of the first scene.

Dustmite
10-25-2008, 04:07 PM
I picked up on that too and was like WTF! That line makes no sense in the context of the episode.

oqllcksmallville
10-25-2008, 04:09 PM
they were interesting .
and a bit intense .
i liked the scene when Chloe was like ;
ohmygod , the skin under the fingernail is davis' .
her facial expression was ; priceless . = )

Khyla
10-25-2008, 04:17 PM
I noticed that too. She seems to think in the second scene that Davis might be planning these murders, but in the earlier scene she seemed to believe him when he said he was having blackouts.

It's like in the second scene she has no memory of the first scene.
EXACTLY!


I picked up on that too and was like WTF! That line makes no sense in the context of the episode.

like maybe the scenes were shot out of sequence or somethin' idk... weird, huh?

It's like, hmmmm..... Is CHloe losing it, or are the writers, or editors?

RedKRules
10-25-2008, 05:47 PM
I just rewatched it again, that makes no freaging sense, in the first scene she was so dang sure it was not Davis ...... I am confused now ...... is Chloe having memory issues or something like that ?? :confused:

Dustmite
10-25-2008, 05:54 PM
I just rewatched it again, that makes no freaging sense, in the first scene she was so dang sure it was not Davis ...... I am confused now ...... is Chloe having memory issues or something like that ?? :confused:

She's either reacting differently to all things Davies related in Clark's company or the writers messed up big time.

Kalista
10-25-2008, 06:00 PM
I just rewatched the Chlark fight scene at the DP and a part of me felt so bad for Clark when Chloe started tearing into him.

RedKRules
10-25-2008, 06:08 PM
Well ..... actually I didnīt really feel bad for him, as pure as his intentions were, he crossed the line ..... but I am glad both were wrong and right, and as usual worked it out !! I could see the spark flying out of my TV ..... that was intense :D

Kalista
10-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Well ..... actually I didnīt really feel bad for him, as pure as his intentions were, he crossed the line ..... but I am glad both were wrong and right, and as usual worked it out !! I could see the spark flying out of my TV ..... that was intense :D

Oh, I agree he was wrong but the look on his face when she confronted him...

She caught him off guard.:lol:

Khyla
10-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Well ..... actually I didnīt really feel bad for him, as pure as his intentions were, he crossed the line ..... but I am glad both were wrong and right, and as usual worked it out !! I could see the spark flying out of my TV ..... that was intense :D

same. and yeah, I liked it. :p :)

Black Panda
10-25-2008, 06:17 PM
It just seems off that one minute Chloe is consoling Davis and hell-bent on proving to him that his theory about being the killer must be wrong, and the next, she is telling Clark:
"I have to admit Davis would have the perfect setup." "I mean he attacks the people and then pretends to arrive at the scene to save them."
Chloe even rolls her eyes as she says it. That was just WEIRD.

Maybe it was Brainiac influencing her in order to put Clark in harms way? It just didn't make sense to me otherwise.... any thoughts?
I think I'm getting a little obsessed with the Chloiac plot and how exactly it might work.

So, I definately see some interesting acting descisions in some of these scenes and some odd patterns of behavior. I've commented that I think Chloe had to be sort of drug into helping Clark at all this episode. I think that's the Brainiac thing. I read this scene as Brainy had no real choice. Clark had gotten insistant about asking for her help in investigating. Chloiac had to play along with Clark or the jig was up. But (s)he does so unwillingly, sort of dragging the feet while playing at the scooby. Hence the eye roll. Like supercomputers figured all this stuff out LONG ago dude.

(boy did I struggle with gender attribution there).

RedKRules
10-25-2008, 06:26 PM
Oh, I agree he was wrong but the look on his face when she confronted him...

She caught him off guard.:lol:

I noticed that ..... he thought she was going to take it easy on him like she is used to ....:lol:

Kalista
10-25-2008, 06:32 PM
I noticed that ..... he thought she was going to take it easy on him like he is used to ....:lol:

Davis just flipped the tables on Clark in the previous scene and then he had to deal with Chloe. I think Clark was a little intimidated with Chloe standing over him and telling him off, so he had to assert himself and stand up.:lol:

clarkbunny
10-25-2008, 07:06 PM
I noticed that too. She seems to think in the second scene that Davis might be planning these murders, but in the earlier scene she seemed to believe him when he said he was having blackouts.

It's like in the second scene she has no memory of the first scene.

You're missing the point - in between talking to Davis then talking to Clark - Clark gave her the results of the blood test that Davis was trying to hide which showed Davis' skin under the victim's nails. That is what convinced Chloe that there may be some truth in Davis being the killer. She didn't just lightswitch between thinking he was innocent and thinking he might be guilty.

Khyla
10-25-2008, 07:22 PM
You're missing the point - in between talking to Davis then talking to Clark - Clark gave her the results of the blood test that Davis was trying to hide which showed Davis' skin under the victim's nails. That is what convinced Chloe that there may be some truth in Davis being the killer. She didn't just lightswitch between thinking he was innocent and thinking he might be guilty.
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that she started saying stuff like, "Oh it would be the perfect setup. He could just be pretending to just arrive at the scene after he attacked the people." She didn't even look a bit scared and concerned for herself or let on in the slightest that there was more to it than that. SHe just blatantly spouted out that scenario like it was nothing.
It makes NO SENSE for her to say that in the context of the story and what Davis just shared with her about having blackouts, and he was obviously coming clean to her about the blackouts, and she was obviously trying to help him alleviate his doubt AND hers by insisting they try to prove that it wasn't him. She wouldn't just suddenly decide he really must be setting the whole thing up, and pretending!!! I can't understand why she would say that to Clark, and without the slightest sign of hiding something.....

WHen i watched again , it even looked like she smiled after Clark took off for Jimmy and Davis. Could it have been that Brainiac knows Davis is the killer and sent Clark to him???

lillie_poo_pod
10-25-2008, 07:28 PM
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that she started saying stuff like, "Oh it would be the perfect setup. He could just be pretending to just arrive at the scene after he attacked the people." She didn't even look a bit scared and concerned for herself or let on in the slightest that there was more to it than that. SHe just blatantly spouted out that scenario like it was nothing.
It makes NO SENSE for her to say that in the context of the story and what Davis just shared with her about having blackouts, and he was obviously coming clean to her about the blackouts, and she was obviously trying to help him alleviate his doubt AND hers by insisting they try to prove that it wasn't him. She wouldn't just suddenly decide he really must be setting the whole thing up, and pretending!!!

I don't think she just up and decided that he was the killer. I saw it has her saying that it could be possibility after she found that it was his skin under the victims nails. Remember she also said that someone could have just grab at him while he was trying to help before she mention how it could be the perfect setup.

Kalista
10-25-2008, 07:30 PM
WHen i watched again , it even looked like she smiled after Clark took off for Jimmy and Davis. Could it have been that Brainiac knows Davis is the killer and sent Clark to him???

I wondered about that little smirk too.

lillie_poo_pod
10-25-2008, 07:36 PM
I wondered about that little smirk too.

There was a smirk? *goes back to watch*

RedKRules
10-25-2008, 07:37 PM
I was wondering about that as well, I mean I thought she was going to freak out that Jimmy and Davis were in danger ..... and she actually SMILED or Smirked ....... Wickkked ..:lol:

Khyla
10-25-2008, 07:40 PM
There was a smirk? *goes back to watch*

yeah . It's kinda hard to tell, I mean it couldv'e just been like a nervous smile, but it was covered up by the CW mark on my TV, so a litlte difficult to decipher.

clarkbunny
10-25-2008, 07:41 PM
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that she started saying stuff like, "Oh it would be the perfect setup. He could just be pretending to just arrive at the scene after he attacked the people." She didn't even look a bit scared and concerned for herself or let on in the slightest that there was more to it than that. SHe just blatantly spouted out that scenario like it was nothing.
It makes NO SENSE for her to say that in the context of the story and what Davis just shared with her about having blackouts, and he was obviously coming clean to her about the blackouts, and she was obviously trying to help him alleviate his doubt AND hers by insisting they try to prove that it wasn't him. She wouldn't just suddenly decide he really must be setting the whole thing up, and pretending!!! I can't understand why she would say that to Clark, and without the slightest sign of hiding something.....

WHen i watched again , it even looked like she smiled after Clark took off for Jimmy and Davis. Could it have been that Brainiac knows Davis is the killer and sent Clark to him???
But it WOULD be the perfect set up. Despite her earlier belief in Davis she couldn't ignore the evidence in front of her which cast suspicion on Davis. Let's not forget Chloe is an investigative reporter at heart. She would be a fool to just trust what Davis told her and her own wish to believe in his innocence over some pretty damning evidence.

Afterall if your friend pulled you aside and said they were suspected of eating some missing cookies but they were completely innocent whilst all the while having crumbs around their mouth you could be forgiven for thinking they might possibly not be telling you the truth :lol:

lillie_poo_pod
10-25-2008, 07:42 PM
Okay that was not a nervous smile. I watched it over again like 10 times.

Kalista
10-25-2008, 07:44 PM
But it WOULD be the perfect set up. Despite her earlier belief in Davis she couldn't ignore the evidence in front of her which cast suspicion on Davis. Let's not forget Chloe is an investigative reporter at heart. She would be a fool to just trust what Davis told her and her own wish to believe in his innocence over some pretty damning evidence.

I agree because it is too early to out Davis as the killer. This is a good way to up the Clark/Davis/Chloe tension. Clark's suspicions will continue and he will probably keep tabs on Davis. Davis will probably try to cast suspicion on Clark just like he did in this episode. Chloe may continue to think that the real killer was caught and that Clark is looking in the wrong direction.

I'm really excited to see where they take this.

Sweetie
10-25-2008, 07:57 PM
Their scenes clearely indicated that they are going to be alot of frustration and disagreements between in the future.They have different views,priorities,they are not thinking the same way anymore and they are drifting more and more apart from each other.

Ayanne
10-25-2008, 09:45 PM
I don't think she just up and decided that he was the killer. I saw it has her saying that it could be possibility after she found that it was his skin under the victims nails. Remember she also said that someone could have just grab at him while he was trying to help before she mention how it could be the perfect setup.

Yeah, that's exactly what she told Clark as an explanation for the test results. I think Clark is still suspicious.

luvinChlark
10-25-2008, 09:57 PM
Their scenes clearely indicated that they are going to be alot of frustration and disagreements between in the future.They have different views,priorities,they are not thinking the same way anymore and they are drifting more and more apart from each other.

Actually in my opinion, I'm pretty sure it would have been boring if we were to see Chloe just hand over all her information. (I've heard lots of complaining about that already) Plus the apologize scene was nice, so they are defiantly still friends.
They have had disagreements in the past seasons, but their friendship remained in tacked. It built up and became stronger. I think Chlark can survive it all.
Just PS3 please don't ruin it...

Ayanne
10-25-2008, 10:01 PM
Actually in my opinion, I'm pretty sure it would have been boring if we were to see Chloe just hand over all her information. (I've heard lots of complaining about that already) Plus the apologize scene was nice, so they are defiantly still friends.
They have had disagreements in the past seasons, but their friendship remained in tacked. It built up and became stronger. I think Chlark can survive it all.
Just PS3 please don't ruin it...


Chloe & Clark are each other's touchstone. They can disagree, & have in the past~ with each time their bond being strengthened.

Firebunny
10-26-2008, 03:24 PM
You're missing the point - in between talking to Davis then talking to Clark - Clark gave her the results of the blood test that Davis was trying to hide which showed Davis' skin under the victim's nails. That is what convinced Chloe that there may be some truth in Davis being the killer. She didn't just lightswitch between thinking he was innocent and thinking he might be guilty. Actually, my point was (and I probably didn't make this clear enough) that Davis confessed to Chloe that he was having blackouts and was afraid he might be the murderer. Chloe didn't think it was possible that he could commit the crimes, but she believed him about the blackouts.

When the physical evidence was presented that Davis may be the killer it made sense for Chloe to suspect him. But if he's committing the murders during his blackouts then it's not something he's planning to do. Chloe's statement that Davis had the perfect cover suggests that she thought he was planning the murders.

That's why I felt there was a disconnect between the two scenes and that Chloe's character was inconsistent. Was that a continuity error in the writing or was it something we're supposed to notice?

Maybe when Clark asked Chloe to use her Brainiac powers to decipher the test results she actually switched on Brainiac.

ms.c.
10-26-2008, 04:27 PM
"Maybe when Clark asked Chloe to use her Brainiac powers to decipher the test results she actually switched on Brainiac."

That sounds like a good idea. Whenever Chloe accesses that power, she brings up Brainiac or lets him take control over part of her brain? That makes sense.

clarkbunny
10-26-2008, 06:32 PM
Actually, my point was (and I probably didn't make this clear enough) that Davis confessed to Chloe that he was having blackouts and was afraid he might be the murderer. Chloe didn't think it was possible that he could commit the crimes, but she believed him about the blackouts.

When the physical evidence was presented that Davis may be the killer it made sense for Chloe to suspect him. But if he's committing the murders during his blackouts then it's not something he's planning to do. Chloe's statement that Davis had the perfect cover suggests that she thought he was planning the murders.

That's why I felt there was a disconnect between the two scenes and that Chloe's character was inconsistent. Was that a continuity error in the writing or was it something we're supposed to notice?

Maybe when Clark asked Chloe to use her Brainiac powers to decipher the test results she actually switched on Brainiac.

The evidence on Davis' skin being found under the victim's nails was in conjunction with Clark's info that Davis was always the first paramedic/person on the crime scene. Taken together they cast a different light on proceedings. It could have meant that Davis was lying to Chloe and he had pre-meditated the killings and not committed them whilst blacked out. Showing up as the paramedic at all the scenes raises suspision that he planned the murders rather than killing by accident.

TWNik
10-26-2008, 11:00 PM
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that she started saying stuff like, "Oh it would be the perfect setup. He could just be pretending to just arrive at the scene after he attacked the people." She didn't even look a bit scared and concerned for herself or let on in the slightest that there was more to it than that. SHe just blatantly spouted out that scenario like it was nothing.
It makes NO SENSE for her to say that in the context of the story and what Davis just shared with her about having blackouts, and he was obviously coming clean to her about the blackouts, and she was obviously trying to help him alleviate his doubt AND hers by insisting they try to prove that it wasn't him. She wouldn't just suddenly decide he really must be setting the whole thing up, and pretending!!! I can't understand why she would say that to Clark, and without the slightest sign of hiding something.....

WHen i watched again , it even looked like she smiled after Clark took off for Jimmy and Davis. Could it have been that Brainiac knows Davis is the killer and sent Clark to him???

I'm convinced Brainiac is effecting Chloe's emotions & behavior. That's a good catch.

CK&CK
10-27-2008, 12:10 AM
AChloeChick..........I just wanted to say that your Avatar never fails to make me laugh. Now that's not really a Chlark related statement (well.....I guess a few weeks ago it would have been....in an indirect sort of way of course.....but now I hardly care)......but I felt like I had to let you know.

Serynarpc
10-27-2008, 02:38 AM
I agree because it is too early to out Davis as the killer. This is a good way to up the Clark/Davis/Chloe tension. Clark's suspicions will continue and he will probably keep tabs on Davis. Davis will probably try to cast suspicion on Clark just like he did in this episode. Chloe may continue to think that the real killer was caught and that Clark is looking in the wrong direction.

I'm really excited to see where they take this.

I'm also looking forward to some decent tension. Chloe and Davis are definite spark potential and Clark doesn't have a good track record when it comes to respecting Chloe's relationships. Chimmy seems to be the only one where he's actually acted like a supportive friend and hasn't tried to link him to any strange happenings. Granted, Chloe has had her share of freak of the week beaus, but Davis is going to take the cake.

Davis may have Clark's number as he let on in their 'figure in the background' scene.

Kalista
10-27-2008, 02:54 AM
Davis may have Clark's number as he let on in their 'figure in the background' scene.

Davis doesn't care about anyone except Chloe. You can tell by his interaction with Jimmy and Clark. He will probably try to blame some of the crimes on Clark later on.

loislanechick
10-27-2008, 03:39 AM
Clark & Chloe are awesome togehter..they've been best friends like forever and they have no secrets, they talk about everything..even when Clark was with Lana, he would always go to Chloe to tell her if something bothers or worries him..and she was ALWAYS there for him..He saved her billion times, but she also saved his butt a few times :) I mean, the girl would die to keep Clark's secret safe.. My favourite thing in smallville are Chlark scenes..simply love them ;)

AChloeChick
10-27-2008, 02:45 PM
AChloeChick..........I just wanted to say that your Avatar never fails to make me laugh. Now that's not really a Chlark related statement (well.....I guess a few weeks ago it would have been....in an indirect sort of way of course.....but now I hardly care)......but I felt like I had to let you know.

Thanks, I'm glad you like it. It's my way of making a statement. I'm not going to change it just yet. PS3 still need to do something for me to take them off, especially after Instinct and Committed.

As for the Chimmy, it's staying unless they finally get enough sense to do away with it. Hopefully, they will by Legions' end.

Anyway, about Chlark, ITA with you, loislanechick, my favorite thing in SV are the Chlark scenes!

Ayanne
10-27-2008, 05:20 PM
Thanks, I'm glad you like it. It's my way of making a statement. I'm not going to change it just yet. PS3 still need to do something for me to take them off, especially after Instinct and Committed.

As for the Chimmy, it's staying unless they finally get enough sense to do away with it. Hopefully, they will by Legions' end.

Anyway, about Chlark, ITA with you, loislanechick, my favorite thing in SV are the Chlark scenes!

I loathe Chimmy. It brings both characters down & it can't be over soon enough. HATE it.

I'm much more excited over the Davis/Chloe/Clark triangle.

AChloeChick
10-28-2008, 11:41 AM
I loathe Chimmy. It brings both characters down & it can't be over soon enough. HATE it.

I'm much more excited over the Davis/Chloe/Clark triangle.

ITA! Chloe having the same type of connection and attraction to Davis as she has for Clark. How SWEET is that!

Firebunny
10-28-2008, 12:46 PM
I loathe Chimmy. It brings both characters down & it can't be over soon enough. HATE it. ITA. How much more enjoyable was Jimmy this episode since he didn't have any scenes with Chloe?



I'm much more excited over the Davis/Chloe/Clark triangle. Okay, I'm just going to have to insist that Clark be listed first in any triangle (unless he's in the middle of it). So it's a Clark/Chloe/Davis triangle and I think it's the most interesting story this show has going on (one Brainiac is banished).

TWNik
10-28-2008, 05:54 PM
ITA! Chloe having the same type of connection and attraction to Davis as she has for Clark. How SWEET is that!

It's EPIC & Chloe is right in the middle!